The Best Of Covino & Rich

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The Best Of Covino & Rich"

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
• Hosts: Steve Covino, Rich Davis, Danny G, Jason Smith, Israel Gutierrez, Dan Byer
• Episode: The Best Of Covino & Rich
• Release Date: April 26, 2025
• Description: A thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day.

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1. Mascot Adventures: Steve Covino’s School Experience

The episode kicks off with Steve Covino sharing a lighthearted and humorous anecdote about volunteering as a mascot for his daughter's school assembly. Dressed as a lion, Covino attempts to perform "the Griddy," a popular dance move requested incessantly by the kids.

• Steve Covino [05:32]: “These stupid things you could do for your kids, they're only one. They're only young once, and they only think you're cool for so long. So my message, do it.”

Covino discusses the physical challenges of performing in a mascot costume, including overheating and restricted breathing, while maintaining high energy to entertain the children. The segment highlights the dedication and athleticism required for professional mascots, segueing into a broader discussion about the demanding nature of such roles.

• Jason Smith [06:19]: “The mascots in today's professional sports can do amazing things, especially in the NBA. These guys are putting their lives at risk, their health at risk.”

2. Comprehensive NFL Draft Analysis

The bulk of the episode delves into an extensive analysis of the 2025 NFL Draft, focusing on key picks, trades, and the implications for various teams.

a. Jacksonville Jaguars’ Strategic Moves

The Jaguars' decision to trade up to the second overall pick to draft Travis Hunter, a standout wide receiver from Colorado, is a major focal point. Hosts discuss how this move signals Jaguars' commitment to building a dynamic offense around Trevor Lawrence.

• Steve Covino [36:03]: “The Jags moved up to number two in a trade with the Browns to grab the Heisman winner who they said is capable of transforming their franchise and even the sport of football.”

• Danny G [15:14]: “I think that the move said a lot about what Jacksonville wants, where they're going, and what they want to be.”

The segment includes discussions on Hunter’s versatility, potential impact on the Jaguars’ offense, and how it complements Lawrence’s playing style.

b. Cam Ward as the First Overall Pick

Cam Ward’s selection as the first overall pick garners significant attention. Hosts analyze his performance metrics, potential for elevating his team, and contrast his draft experience with that of other quarterbacks.

• Steve Covino [36:12]: “For the first time in a long time because of Travis Hunter and maybe Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville will be exciting to watch.”

• Jason Smith [20:16]: “He stands out by not being flashy at a moment like this. That's kind of cool. I respect that.”

The discussion includes the lack of media coverage and fan excitement surrounding Ward’s pick, attributing it to the swift nature of the draft process and subsequent trades that overshadowed his selection.

c. Shador Sanders’ Draft Humility

Shador Sanders, son of NFL legend Deion Sanders, experiences an unexpected draft outcome, leading to a discussion on player expectations versus reality.

• Jason Smith [46:41]: “Maybe that's what he needs and this is what puts him where he needs to be. So, like we said, a blessing in disguise.”

The hosts reflect on Sanders' public persona, his performance metrics, and how the draft experience serves as a humbling moment that could drive personal and professional growth.

d. Viral Draft Moments and Fan Reactions

Several memorable moments from the draft night go viral, including Kevin Banks Jr.'s emotional reaction and Mel Kuiper's unexpected behavior.

• Steve Covino [36:19 - 36:31]: “The Jags moved up to number two in a trade with the Browns to grab the Heisman winner...”

• Danny G [24:10]: “He's a great athlete and a great player, but we don't know enough about him because of the competition and the bad O line that he had.”

These moments highlight the human side of the draft, showcasing players' emotions and the intense scrutiny they face from fans and analysts alike.

e. Second Round Predictions and Strategic Insights

As the draft progresses to the second round, hosts offer predictions on where key players might be selected and which teams stand to gain the most from their picks.

• Steve Covino [60:22]: “I think he fits in with the Raiders nice. I don't know, he just feels like a... He'd look good in silver and black.”

• Jason Smith [54:25]: “We have a lot more confidence than we as fans do.”

The discussion includes potential strategies for teams looking to bolster their defensive backfields and the evolving role of tight ends in the NFL.

3. Additional Observations and Light-Hearted Banter

Beyond the draft, the episode features casual conversations about current TV shows, movies, and weekend plans, adding a relatable and entertaining layer to the discussion.

• Steve Covino [70:43]: “If you want to know the history of food, there's a bunch of new episodes of the Food that Built America.”

These segments provide a well-rounded listening experience, balancing in-depth sports analysis with personable and humorous interactions among the hosts.

4. Concluding Insights and Future Outlook

As the episode wraps up, hosts reflect on the implications of the draft decisions made and what to anticipate in the upcoming football season. Emphasis is placed on the potential impact of key draft picks on their respective teams and the broader NFL landscape.

• Steve Covino [73:09]: “Talent in the family. Talent in the fam.”

• Jason Smith [74:52]: “And maybe that's what he needs in the long run because it forces him to step up in every way, some humility, some. Some extra work.”

The hosts conclude with optimistic outlooks for the teams that made strategic draft choices, anticipating exciting developments and heightened competition in the forthcoming season.

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Notable Quotes:

1. Steve Covino [05:32]: “These stupid things you could do for your kids, they're only one. They're only young once, and they only think you're cool for so long. So my message, do it.”

2. Jason Smith [06:19]: “The mascots in today's professional sports can do amazing things, especially in the NBA. These guys are putting their lives at risk, their health at risk.”

3. Steve Covino [36:03]: “The Jags moved up to number two in a trade with the Browns to grab the Heisman winner who they said is capable of transforming their franchise and even the sport of football.”

4. Jason Smith [46:41]: “Maybe that's what he needs and this is what puts him where he needs to be. So, like we said, a blessing in disguise.”

5. Steve Covino [60:22]: “I think he fits in with the Raiders nice. I don't know, he just feels like a... He'd look good in silver and black.”

6. Jason Smith [74:52]: “And maybe that's what he needs in the long run because it forces him to step up in every way, some humility, some. Some extra work.”

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This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" offers a comprehensive and engaging analysis of the 2025 NFL Draft, interwoven with entertaining personal stories and insightful commentary from seasoned sports analysts. Whether you're a dedicated fan or a casual listener, the episode provides valuable perspectives on the evolving dynamics of the NFL and the human stories that shape the game.

Transcript

[Rich Davis]

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[Danny G]

The 40s and free agents Podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2020 NFL Draft.

[Jason Smith]

We've told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the postseason.

[Danny G]

And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft.

[Jason Smith]

So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made.

[Danny G]

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[Jason Smith]

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[Israel Gutierrez]

Has spent 24 of those years in jail.

[Danny G]

But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex con to a literary darling from Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty, the story of how the golden State warriors have dominated the NBA for over the Golden State.

[Steve Covino]

Warriors once again are NBA champions today.

[Danny G]

The warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to love.

[Jason Smith]

For what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that Mount Rushmore.

[Danny G]

Come revisit this magical warriors ride. Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Best of Kabino and Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Jason Smith]

Find your local station for Cavino and [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR so pumped for the weekend. Hope you had a great Thursday night. Hope you enjoyed the draft. Hope hope you had a better time than Shador Sanders. Because that's got to feel weird. Listen, as he said, that's not what we expected, not what we came here for. You know, I got this whole party room for nothing. But yeah, I hope your night was better than that.

[Steve Covino]

Oh dad, if he take a listen to Shador himself.

[Jason Smith]

We all didn't expect this, of course, but I feel like with God, anything possible, everything possible. I don't feel like this happened, you know, for no reason. All this is is of course fuel to the fire. And under no circumstance. We all know this shouldn't happen, but we, we understand we on the bigger and better things. Tomorrow's the day. Yep, we're gonna be happy regardless.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Give him, give him fire and here comes my song. Expect the unexpected.

[Steve Covino]

Give him that which he desires. Ooh yeah. Shador Sanders. Obviously one of the big surprises we're gonna go over the things that made us go. But I gotta give mascots credit. Just this is just a quick one off. This morning at my kids school I volunteered to be the mascot for the big assembly.

[Jason Smith]

Of course you did.

[Steve Covino]

Why would I not? I was doing the running man. All the kids. You know what the kids want Danny G. More than anything. What do you think in 2025?

[Jason Smith]

I feel like you're already like a a real life mascot Candy.

[Israel Gutierrez]

They want to be left alone.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, true. But all the kids.

[Jason Smith]

I want candy, Dino nuggets, vape pens.

[Steve Covino]

These are all great answers.

[Jason Smith]

Legos, Kraft Mac and Cheese, Minecraft movie.

[Steve Covino]

They all want you to do the gritty. It's wild. Like I'm in there, I'm doing the Running Man. I came out there dressed as the lion for my daughter's school. Every kid's like, do the gritty. Do the gritty. Are they all just in? Jason?

[Jason Smith]

I denied them. I had my daughter's friends tell me to do the same thing. I said, no, you do it. You don't tell me what to do, you nose picker. Get out of my face.

[Steve Covino]

Well, I mean, unlike you, I'm a.

[Jason Smith]

Do what you tell me to do. You're five.

[Steve Covino]

I'm a man of the kids and people, so. And also, I was in a costume, so I was like, sure. So I was doing the gritty. I was acting a fool. But hey, listen, these stupid things you could do for your kids, they're only one. They're only young once, and they only think you're cool for so long. So my message, do it. Take these dumb opportunities. Guess what? I could check off my fool's bucket list.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Mascot, you were dressed as an octopus.

[Steve Covino]

Big ass lion, Danny G. I was a lion. And we tell you, you could only breathe through the eyes. I was thinking the whole time, like, what if I pass out? And they're like, oh, my God, the lion's dead. How appropriate.

[Jason Smith]

You're always lying.

[Steve Covino]

So not only that, I mean, if.

[Jason Smith]

You really want to give props to the mascots, it's not about you doing the gritty and barely surviving because you couldn't breathe. It's about that these mascots in today's game are super athletes. The mascots in today's professional sports, for the most part, can do amazing things, especially in the NBA. NBA mascots. These guys are putting their lives at risk, their health at risk. They're doing things that the average fellow can't do.

[Steve Covino]

Are you saying I wasn't doing flips into slam dunks? That's what I'm saying.

[Jason Smith]

No. And I remember back in the day, I used to know the guy that was Sly from the Nets. Remember the fox from the Nets. That mascot. I would hear stories all the time about how much they put their body through and how hard it is to actually get that gig. You have to be a next level performer and athlete to actually be a professional mascot on that level.

[Steve Covino]

I totally forgot when you used to hang out with Sly the mascot. That was your stage when you were into, like, furries, right?

[Jason Smith]

I mean, it was a weird phase and all, but, yeah, I used to roll it off. In fact, I used to roll with all the mascots.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Remember Mike?

[Steve Covino]

I walked in one time and Covino was like, get out of here, Mike. And he was with Otto the orange. It's very strange.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Do you remember the best mascot episode ever in the NBA? I think it was 2013 when Rocky was lowered down from the rafters and he had a medical situation. He collapsed. And the nugget girls, the dancers, still danced around him in a circle around his limp body, his lifeless body.

[Steve Covino]

So shout out to all the mascots, anyone that ever did in high school, college. I feel like I. I feel like I burned a thousand calories easy just bouncing around and dancing in this suit. And it's so hot and you can't breathe well. So hey, props again. And I did have some Mrs. Met Fantasies when I was in that costume.

[Jason Smith]

What does smell like in there?

[Steve Covino]

Not bad. You know, I lucked out. The school got a new mascot mascot costume at the end of last year because I can only imagine some of them are dank.

[Jason Smith]

I heard they smell like hot farts. Is that true?

[Steve Covino]

Many of them.

[Jason Smith]

Hard to wash those, I think. Gotta go to send them to dry cleaning.

[Steve Covino]

I don't think you put in the washing machine.

[Jason Smith]

New.

[Danny G]

New.

[Jason Smith]

So that was Rich's morning. If that was hard to follow. He was the school mascot at his kids grade school this morning for the morning. The Friday morning assembly.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. And my daughter, I. People are asked, did your kids know? I gave my daughter two hints. I said assembly and handshake. There's gonna be something funny. She's like, what? So she won an award and the mascot always high fives of kids. But instead of a high five, I did our like softball handshake and she looked like.

[Jason Smith]

Wait a minute, wait a second. So let me ask you this. Since you're talking about it.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Jason Smith]

Before we get into things, you made that made you go, hmm, NFL draft edition. This was your first time playing mascot for the kids. You think he did a better job than other parents that were previously the mascot? Is that what you're saying? I feel like that's what you're getting.

[Steve Covino]

What I really want to say is I could only imagine they felt so inadequate.

[Jason Smith]

What makes you think that you were so much better?

[Steve Covino]

My gritty, My running man.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah. But if it's a liberating sort of thing, like a freeing sort of thing where everyone just wants to be there their silly selves. You're saying you're best at it.

[Steve Covino]

Do you know the things that you wouldn't really do as yourself?

[Jason Smith]

That's what I mean. If everyone feels that way, like if.

[Steve Covino]

You told me what makes you so much better? Me. Rich, Come on, do the gritty. I feel embarrassed. Like I don't know, guys, do I want to. Do I look. So Halloween. You're anonymous in the costume, right?

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

As a mascot, you can just be a goof.

But that's my point. Point. If he felt the freedom to be even goofier than he already is, doesn't that seem apply to every parent that's done it previous?

[Steve Covino]

And I don't. I don't half ass it. Best mascot in the Valley, that's why.

[Jason Smith]

So what I'm asking is, I'm not saying you weren't better. I'm saying what made you better.

[Steve Covino]

I already got calls, people saying, hey, do you want to be the dinosaur at Universal? I'm like, no, no can do. I'm busy. I'm busy. I was asked, do you want to be Optimus Prime? I said, sorry, guys, can't, man. Can't do it.

[Israel Gutierrez]

We know you already compete with him as a coach. Better mascot. You or Gottlieb?

[Steve Covino]

Come on, come on, give me a break.

[Jason Smith]

So that was Rich's morning mind, man. I was just lamping, dude. Lamping. Enjoying the glorious Friday, getting ready for the weekend, watching lots of highlights from last night, of course.

[Steve Covino]

So yesterday, got home, I DVR'd the draft. And can I tell you, you know, there's times where there's certain things that are so great.

[Jason Smith]

DVR'd, you mean you didn't have to sit through the long ass walk that each player had to make?

[Steve Covino]

I did. Like how some of them tapped their logo of the team and some gave a little more, a little more style when they tried on the hat in the mirror. I thought that was cool. Lids had the setup, but Tyler Booker.

[Jason Smith]

Really leaned into that for the Cowboys. Yeah, that was cool.

[Steve Covino]

I'm gonna tell you this. And, oh, man, he was.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, but he. He hit the logo real nice.

[Steve Covino]

But you know why? I mean, think about it. Alabama to the Cowboys. Like, those are two. You know, he's played for some legendary places now. My thought is this. Before you get into all the things that made you go, the NFL draft might be the best programming to DVR by far. I got home about an hour into the draft. I turned my phone off, I turned it on silent, and I told my wife, dvr the draft. I'm at baseball practice with my kid. No one, no parents said anything to me. The ability and freedom to start that an hour and 15 minutes later and be like. And the first pick. Once I watched them all walk down the aisle, I watched them hold up the jersey, and I was like, fast forward, fast forward, fast forward. For us, the pick is in press play. Dude, it was amazing. I recommend everyone do it in the future.

[Jason Smith]

A baseball game. A condensed version of a baseball game is always kind of fun, too. I mean, I like sitting through a baseball game. A manageable two hours nowadays. Two hours plus. But if you happen to miss it and you watch the condensed version that the MLB app offers, that's pretty cool because it just cuts out all the fat.

[Steve Covino]

That's what my dad does for Sny and the Mets. A lot of times he'll be watching some nonsense with his wife and when she goes to bed, he's like, oh, I'll turn on the Mets and he'll watch. It's like they trim it down to like an hour.

[Jason Smith]

I'm trying to think of what else would be good, like maybe some sort of pageant. Fast forward. Look for the bikini part.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Jason Smith]

And then see who wins. That was fun.

[Steve Covino]

You know, it's a good thing to DVR the Bachelor because there's a lot of nonsense downtime. On a date with someone you don't care about and you're like, all right, it's a three hour show, so how about smut?

[Jason Smith]

Sometimes you're just looking for the good parts.

[Steve Covino]

What's the good part? Why don't you tell everyone?

[Jason Smith]

I'm just.

[Steve Covino]

That's.

[Jason Smith]

That's case by case.

[Steve Covino]

Why don't you. Why don't you tell everyone?

[Jason Smith]

It all depends on what your thing is, I guess.

[Steve Covino]

So let's get into it. I was Sam. He broke out the football sound effects every football season. We do it on Mondays. Things that make you go.

[Jason Smith]

Hmm. Let's go, baby. Things that make you go. Things that make you go. NFL draft edition. Your thoughts, your observations. There's no wrong answers, no wrong phone calls. Is anything you took in yesterday. This is where we get you involved. We do it like Rich said throughout the football season. We do it today. Special edition as it continues. 877-99-FOX. What stood out to you? It doesn't necessarily have to be about the pick or the surprise, but maybe just a weird observation, like, I'll start off with one. It's an obvious one, but it did happen. Did you see when Roger Goodell came.

[Steve Covino]

Out on a bicycle? Could we start there? No.

[Jason Smith]

But I love Wayne. How gleaming white his kicks were. I did notice that he was rocking some shoe white last night. Those were mint. But did you notice how long that walk was? I did mention that, yeah. Our boy Jack Mack said it looked like they were in a furniture store. It did look like they were in a furniture warehouse just sitting there. But that walk. Reason to fast forward. It was a long walk. It was like, man, you know, that was very noticeable. I did notice that when the bikes.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Were all lined up on stage, did you notice that the, the bike James Jones was on was wobbling? He was having trouble balancing it.

[Steve Covino]

It's hard to ride a bike slow. It's hard to ride a bike kind.

[Jason Smith]

Of getting into a circle. And I was like, something's bad might happen here.

[Steve Covino]

Imagine they all tip over like the motorcycles and Pee Wee's big adventure.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

So I Goodell's gleaming white sneakers came out on a bike. Now, Bears fans, Bears fans had a laugh at it. I thought it was really cool when Clay Matthews had the, oh, I have a letter from the president. And it's just a total diss at the Bears.

[Jason Smith]

It was a good little prank.

[Steve Covino]

I enjoyed it straight from President Trump.

[Israel Gutierrez]

The Bears still suck, my fellow Americans. And we're like, oh, this is a.

[Steve Covino]

Real letter from Trump himself. Now Covino, pick number one was the obvious one, Cam Ward. And then the fireworks that have started from there because we have a trade and we saw Jacksonville move up and I feel like they gave up quite a bit to get that number two pick. So I asked everyone in the room, Dan Byer, good to see you, my friend. Danny G. I was Sam Cavino and Rich Spotty, if you're Travis Hunter, is Jacksonville much better than Cleveland? Where would you prefer historically to play? I feel like Jacksonville's trying to build something now with new, new leadership. But where would you rather play? Dan Byer?

[Danny G]

I think that it's the opposite of historically and that's why I think it was so important for the Jaguars because again, we know about the Jaguars in London. They're not going to be moving to London. It's not going to happen. They're going to be building basically a brand new stadium on the side of their current stadium. So the Jaguars are in Jacksonville for a long time, but they needed a star like Trevor Lawrence did not cross over into that first overall pick quarterback superstar in the NFL. And so I think it was value to Jacksonville to have what could be possibly the next superstar in the NFL, no doubt be on their team.

[Steve Covino]

And you know, it could elevate Trevor Lawrence's game.

[Danny G]

I think so as well. And it also is a commitment to Trevor Lawrence because you give up a first round pick in a draft next year that we think is going to be pretty good with quarterbacks and he's got that long contract so there would be a heavy cap number. But remember, in February, we were dissecting that Steelers Trevor Lawrence rumor, so it wasn't out of the realm of possibility that Jacksonville would want to move on. I think that that move said a lot of things about what Jacksonville wants, where they're going and what they want to be.

[Steve Covino]

And I think Covino, is it safe to say for the first time in a long time because of Travis Hunter and maybe Trevor Lawrence, that's a little rejuvenated. Jacksonville will be exciting to watch this year, that you're going to have another reason to watch Jacksonville, without a doubt.

[Jason Smith]

And I think that's why they made this move. And, you know, great analysis, db, but what I took away from it, too, was how excited he was to say he wanted to play in Florida. He seemed pumped about it, genuinely excited.

[Steve Covino]

Everyone's breaking out the Duval.

[Jason Smith]

He leaned right into it. Take a listen.

Well, let me preface. This is actually a little mashup of Liam Cohen doing Duvall from what, a few months ago? And then Travis Hunter.

Nice Duvall. I just did my best Duval back.

[Israel Gutierrez]

There, but I got you Duvall.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah. Immediately embraced Florida. And, you know, his excitement, I thought was contagious. I have to also mention that neon pink jacket he was rocking last night looking hot. He was looking like Kelvin Washington. I saw him wearing a pink jacket similar recently. But yeah, man, that was a cool pick and a very, very surprising one.

[Israel Gutierrez]

And how about him taking the call while Lil Wayne was standing right next to him?

[Steve Covino]

That was cool.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Picture it looks like he's Little Wayne's son. It's great. But the other thing, we watched a lot of Buffs football, tons of the country did because of Deion Sanders. The one thing about Travis Hunter, you just got to hit him accurately with a short pass. He'll do the rest of the work.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Israel Gutierrez]

So this should be easy money for Trevor Lawrence.

[Steve Covino]

Should be interesting. And the Jags seem to be committed to giving him an opportunity to play both sides of the ball in some capacity. So, again, makes Jacksonville a hell of a lot more exciting. Now. Where do you go from there? I was saying, can I.

[Jason Smith]

Before we get past the second pick in the trade, me and Jason were talking about this and we talked about this on Doug show that Cam Ward was completely eclipsed by the trade. He was given no shine. And it's like, yeah, we might have assumed he was going to be the first overall pick, but I've been told that that trade between Cleveland and Jacksonville was in the works for weeks. So it's like they could have waited a few minutes and given Cam Ward more of the time he deserved as the number one overall pick.

Let it breathe a little bit.

It didn't. He was like, he got 45 seconds and then, you know, Adam Schefter was all geeking out and stuff. So I don't know, I thought, like.

That'S another great observation.

[Steve Covino]

No one's talking about Cam Ward today. You're right.

[Jason Smith]

When all said and done, everyone's gonna remember that Cam Ward was the number one pick. But you're right, that was the big story. The bigger story was the Cleveland, Florida trade.

[Danny G]

Yeah. The other thing that I would say to that is we've known Cam Ward's going to be the pick for about the last couple of weeks. So there is drama with all of this and there wasn't a lot of drama. And I felt that the. Even though, to Sam's point, if the trade was in the works for a couple of weeks, it happened last night. And so that's what was going on. So as you just said, Ken Ward's gonna have a great career and it's going to be a footnote that he didn't get his five minute highlight package. I'd be more mad if they were, you know, talking about Shooter Sanders and why he didn't go at 2 or 3 or whatever instead of talking about Cam Ward. But in reality, I'm not heard about Cam Ward.

[Steve Covino]

It's funny to your point, guys, I made my notes. Cavino has his notes. Do you have Cam Ward written anywhere?

[Jason Smith]

I do.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, I do. I have a whole list of my observations and I do not have the name Cam Ward on my list.

[Jason Smith]

You know, like when I made reference to him being the first pick and props to him and the Titans. That's really it.

[Israel Gutierrez]

He did become a meme, though. Was one meme that floated around right away because of the lack of flash. How he just looked clean with the little chain and the meme said no flashy jewelry, no flashy suit, no flashy girlfriend hogging the attention. Just a regular suit, thin chain, alma mater pin, and his parents by his side. That's pretty cool, how clean he looked.

[Jason Smith]

That's kind of cool. You stand out by. By not being flashy at a moment like this. That's kind of cool. I respect that.

[Steve Covino]

I have a ton more observations than I know Cavino does as well. But if you want to talk about style, as they say, drip. We said it before we even got off the air yesterday. I knew social media would Rip apart Adam Schefter's odd suit hoodie combination.

[Jason Smith]

It was noticeable and I got it.

[Steve Covino]

It was a little chilly. He even matched it. But I knew it the minute I saw it. I'm like, oh, you know, 50 something year old white guy trying to wear like the hoodie suit combo.

[Jason Smith]

But you know why we, we recognize this stuff? A, because we have eyes, but B, because it's such a big night and these are lasting images, right? A la the Brett Favre situation where he's there in his Wranglers and his shorts. Like these are lasting images in our mind. So on a big night like this, you can't help but notice what people are rocking and what they're doing and the actual choice that he made so he chose to do that. Granted, it was probably chilly, I get it. Maybe it was a last minute thing. But it's hard for you as the guy watching on such a big night not to notice that, silly as it sounds.

[Steve Covino]

Well, if you want to chime in, we got plenty more to talk about with the NFL draft because I mean, night two, for the first time in a while, there's some quarterbacks, there's some players that were not taken yesterday that I think it's more incentive to actually pay attention tonight. I don't know the last time I was this pulled in for night two of the draft. Wasn't it Joe Shane's son who last year said go with Jaden Daniels? He didn't. And then this year he said, jackson dart, dad. And what did we get? Jackson dart. That. Yeah.

[Jason Smith]

How cool is that? And I do think that, like I said, Giants fans were pumped about it and I was pumped for friends of mine. I have a lot of Giants friends who wanted that to happen. So I was pumped for him and pumped for my friends. And when Ashton Genti went to the Raiders, I was super pumped for you, Danny G. Because last year you wanted Pennix Jr. And you got hosed, but this time you got what you wanted. So, you know, I was pumped for you and I was pumped for him.

[Steve Covino]

You know what? When you hear the first syllable of someone's name and you know it's not. I was when the Jags and well, they traded up. But when the Patriots did not go with Genti, when they're like, and your pick is. And I didn't hear Ash, I was like, danny G's got to be fired up.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Like we talked about on the show yesterday, I didn't think the Patriots were going to go running back, but I did think when the Jag said we're going to make a splash, I thought that they were going to stand in the way at 5. So once they traded up to 2, Scott Shapiro was here in the main studio and he looked at me and he's like, clear path now. And I was like, clear path, dude.

[Steve Covino]

I thought of you, Danny, only because you and a lot of Raiders fans I know wanted Genti. And I'm not one to make predictions like, well, this guy's going to. But with Pete Carroll running that team and he is run heavy, what he did with Marshawn Lynch, a lot of people pointed this out.

[Israel Gutierrez]

And don't forget Chip Kelly now the OC he loves to run the ball.

[Steve Covino]

And this could be like a perfect scenario for this game.

[Jason Smith]

It's perfect because Geno Smith, you know, he could throw and he could run, and you got this guy there too, so.

[Israel Gutierrez]

And Geno's best. I think TV would back me up on this. I think Geno is better suited for play action when he's got a good runner next to him. That's when he's most effective.

[Danny G]

Absolutely. Seahawks just could ever get anybody healthy enough to continue to stay on the field. Kenneth Walker is good for 12 games, but agreed.

[Steve Covino]

Know who my favorite was? I don't want to skip too far ahead, but towards the end of the first round, when the Buffalo Bills pick Maxwell Hairston, this is the guy that was like loving and hugging and bro. Hugging everyone. His enthusiasm not to sound like I'm, you know, emo boy. I got a little emotional. My wife's like, you okay? I'm like this kid I'm so happy from. I don't even. I don't know a thing about him, but his enthusiasm was contagious.

[Dan Byer]

You have hugged every single prospect that has been called before you tonight. Now it is your moment. How does it to trade Kentucky blue in for Buffalo blue?

[Jason Smith]

Man, I can't believe this going on right now. I'm so thankful. I'm so blessed, man. I'm so happy to hear my name. Cause truly a dream come true. I give all thanks to God and your family.

[Steve Covino]

You love them so much.

[Dan Byer]

You are wearing them with your heart and soul tonight.

[Jason Smith]

Show us your jacket. They everywhere.

[H]

They with me everywhere I go.

[Jason Smith]

I love my family, man. My biggest support system.

[Dan Byer]

Congratulations. And western New York's gonna love you.

[Jason Smith]

Let's get to work, Buffalo.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Jason Smith]

You gotta love the reaction and the emotion and you know, it's for their family. It's the hard work they put in and it's that little kid they once were and making that dream come true. And you heard that throughout the night. And that's what makes it so fun.

[Steve Covino]

No doubt. Your observation? Do you want to go to the phones?

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, let's do it. 877-99-FOX. 8, 777-99-FOX. Any observation from last night, our NFL draft addition of things that made you.

[Steve Covino]

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[Jason Smith]

Okay, so before we go to the phones, I do want to point out a very viral moment that I'm sure you saw over and over again. So I'll get this out of the way. Offensive lineman from Texas, Kevin Banks Jr. Kelvin Banks. I'm sorry, no, Kevin, isn't it? Kevin. Kelvin. Kelvin banks. Kelvin Banks Jr gets drafted by the Saints and he has a little baby.

[Israel Gutierrez]

In the shot so good.

[Jason Smith]

And immediately the little baby throws up and everyone's zooming in on it. It goes viral. And that was definitely a big moment because you're like, yeah, they're in the middle of all the, all the fun that happens. People like, is it because the Saints or.

[Steve Covino]

No, my, my, my wife was the first to point that out because, you know, I'm watching the bigger picture. She's like, oh, cute baby. She has baby fever. And I'm like, nope, we're not having a third. So she's like, oh, look at the baby. And she's, she's like, didn't you see that? I'm like, see what? You rewind.

[Jason Smith]

I didn't see it until, you know, it went viral on social media.

[Steve Covino]

Well, baby probably just had a bottle. I'm not saying they shook the baby, but with the excitement in the excite, with the excitement, just, just moving a baby like that around that little, we've all had kids that little spit out.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

It's not like the Exorcist. Linda Blair. No projectile vomiting. He was a little spit up.

So hard to miss that one.

[Steve Covino]

But a really funny Kavino, as you always talk about, those are the moments that the family will talk about forever. That kid's going to be grown up and the stories be like, and then when your dad got drafted, you threw up. Oh, yeah. Like that's going to be the family story. All right, let's go to Jeff and Maryland. Jeff, you're on with cnr.

[Jason Smith]

Hey, Jeff.

[H]

Hey, fellas. I think it's hilarious. You know, Goodell, probably not. You know, he's sort of a skinny, sort of a frail guy. I don't think he's too big. But the one observation I had was these big bear hugs that come out and just. Just trap him. Like he's almost like a rag do where his head goes right into the. Almost their belly. Like I would break several vertebrae.

[Steve Covino]

Let me tell you. He gets. He gets picked up, tossed around and some of these intense, like handshake into bro hugs, like those are not gentle. Like, I guarantee at the end of.

[Jason Smith]

The night he's like, Damn, who's 27th? I think he gave him that long.

[Steve Covino]

Long.

[Jason Smith]

He picked him up. He gave him the old spine stretch. I don't know, Dan, if you.

[Steve Covino]

I don't let me get my charts.

[Jason Smith]

Out later in the draft, but in the first round. But he really held onto him for.

[Danny G]

A long time, man, look how Starks was there.

[Jason Smith]

I think it was Starks. Yeah. Yep. And he was joyful about it, too.

Who else do we got?

[Steve Covino]

David in Texas.

[Jason Smith]

What's up, Dave?

[Steve Covino]

David.

[H]

Hey, guys, how's it going?

[Steve Covino]

What's up, man?

[H]

I got two. I got two things, man. You stole my thunder with that with the Bills pick, but I'll send you this other one.

[Danny G]

When the guys were joking around on.

[H]

Stage, Saban wasn't laughing much, too much at all. Stuff like that. So that's one thing observation I took and the other one, I want to send out my love to the Pittsburgh Cedar pick. His mom died. All respects. God's taking care of her. Peace out, guys.

[Jason Smith]

Is he talking Derek? Derek Harmon?

[Israel Gutierrez]

Yeah, Derek.

[Jason Smith]

Carmen. You know what's interesting about that pick too, is it's clear they went defensive tackle, so they totally passed on a qb, which means they're leaving it open for Aaron Rodgers. That's what makes you go. That's the biggest story there. It's like really, they're. They're really banking on Rogers. They must have a lot more confidence than we as fans do. Well, that's how you know what he has left.

[Steve Covino]

That's how you know Kavino, that Aaron Rodgers is in the mix. And also absolutely, that Shador is rubbing people the wrong way. Those are the moments. There were two times where I told my wife, who was like half ass paying attention, like, babe, babe, come here. I think it's going to happen. And when the Saints passed him early, I'm like, all right, then he might go to 21, the Steelers. And then when the Steelers. You heard a different again when you, it's like when the Academy Awards, when you hear the first syllable, the first name and it wasn't should, you're like, oh my God.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah. Congrats to Derek Harmon of Oregon. So you have to imagine that now.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Jason Smith]

That that's happened. We're going to get a Rogers update any minute.

[Steve Covino]

Not only, not only a Rogers update, I think there's still the, the big surprise tonight coming off. Like who will want Shador Sanders.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Yeah. In fact, even President Trump has weighed in on Sanders. You want me to read it real quick?

[Steve Covino]

I would love for you to read it.

[Israel Gutierrez]

What is wrong with NFL owners? Are they stupid? Deion Sanders was a great college football player and was even greater in the NFL. He's also a very good coach, street wise and smart. Therefore shedeur, his quarterback son has phenomenal genes and is all set for greatness. Trump wrote in a truth social post he should be picked immediately by a team that wants to win all capitals. Good luck, Shador, and say hello to your wonderful father.

[Jason Smith]

Well, like we said, fuel to the fire. As he said fuel to the fire. Legendary. But he sort of got what he deserved last night, meaning some humility. It had to be really embarrassing for the kid to not go last night. And that was his big, biggest criticism was that maybe he's a little too cocky. So maybe this puts him where he needs to be.

[Steve Covino]

Well, we got more observations, but it's time for Dan Buyer in an update. DB as we get into night two of the draft, we got NBA playoffs. I'm sure a lot on your play tonight.

[Jason Smith]

What up, Dan?

[Danny G]

Browns are on the clock at number 33 overall to start that second round. Tex Titans will follow. It all gets resumes coming up at 07:00 Eastern Time. Second and third rounds taking place tonight. Former Vikings running back Adrian Peterson was arrested on DUI charges earlier this morning in Minnesota following a team draft party. Peterson was allegedly going 83 in a 55 mile per hour zone. Breathalyzer test came in at 0.14. The legal limit in Minnesota is 0.08. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says the NFL triple header on Christmas Day will likely be a permanent thing. Made the comments to the Pat McAfee show also said that the Thanksgiving Day games will alter kickoff time. So that Lions game that started at 12:30 Eastern different than everything likely will go to a 1:00 Eastern time kick like we're so used to on Sundays. But I did like the 12:30 Eastern. I thought there was something funky about it. I, I did appreciate it.

[Steve Covino]

Woke up, turned the game right on on the west coast, right? Absolutely.

[Danny G]

Early starts of the day, but the more a traditional window for Thanksgiving.

[Steve Covino]

Kids turn off the parade. It's time for football.

[Danny G]

Exactly. Sorry, Macy's Jason Hansen's about to kick off. The other note from the NFL is that Roger Goodell did tell the Pat McAfee show they may look into shortening the time frame for first round picks.

[Steve Covino]

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[Danny G]

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[Jason Smith]

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[Danny G]

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[Jason Smith]

So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made.

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[Jason Smith]

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[Steve Covino]

The Jags moved up to number two in a trade with the Browns to grab the Heisman winner who they said is capable of transforming their franchise and even the sport of football.

[Jason Smith]

Oh, there he is. There he goes. Take a Listen.

[Steve Covino]

With the second pick in the 2025.

[Danny G]

NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Travis.

[Steve Covino]

Hunter, wide receiver from Colorado.

[Jason Smith]

It's going to be fun to watch Hunter on both sides of the ball. That's our tyrack play of the day.

[Steve Covino]

And I said I have my favorite meme because there are so many good ones. I feel like I don't know who makes all these memes because they don't get credit. They. You just. You see one, you repost it there. It's like the Internet. You used to say who uploads all these like old school TV clips and themes.

[Jason Smith]

I still wonder who did that.

[Steve Covino]

Who is the kind soul that does that and gets nothing in return?

[Jason Smith]

No one. Well, no one gets credit.

[Steve Covino]

My favorite meme is Shador Sanders face photoshopped over Will Smith on fresh prince, hugging Dr. Uncle Phil. How come they don't want me, man? Well, that's the best one I've seen.

[Jason Smith]

Because it doesn't matter who your daddy is in the NFL spot was talking about that. It's not the NBA. NFL is much different. You know, I respect what Trump said. I think it's kind of funny, right? Were you crazy not drafting Shador? But it doesn't matter how great his dad was.

It sounded like he wanted, he wanted teams to draft Deion and it did, right?

Yeah, like his dad was so great. Well, you know what? Maybe his son rubbed people the wrong way in the interviews. That's what we discussed yesterday on the show. We've seen the Trump kids.

[Steve Covino]

But by the way, other than other than Trump, there were a lot of people that were shocked. I feel like the most shocked person was if you did watch it on espn, that wasn't a vampire. It was Mel Kuiper. And Mel Kuiper the whole time had him at number one. My number one quarterback on the board. All right, I guess they picked Cam Ward. But then when Jackson Dart was chosen and traded up for, I think Mel Kuiper blew a gasket inside. He's like stunned by this. So. And then he started saying, well, Brady was chosen late, Brock Purdy was chosen late. Then he started rattling off guys that were chosen late. Mel Kuiper doesn't get it.

[Jason Smith]

This is what he does year round though, like. And so he, he builds up through the entire year up to this day. And then his pick, his analysis is completely blown Up. So it makes him look kind of bad.

Well, speaking of people that we were watching, aside from the players, like Mel Kuiper. Can I just shout out field? Yates and his flow and his salad. I saw him in Scott Van Pelt talking about it, but here's what stood out to me. Okay? So he has this full on flow going on. And you saw his mane. He's got like a Kenny mane. He's got new hair, right? And Van Pelt's like, I didn't hear a word you said, because I was just admiring the flow. And he said, thanks, svp. I've been letting it grow since December, and I'm thinking to myself, he's been growing that hair for five months. Like, my hair would be down. I think down to my shoulders.

[Steve Covino]

You would look like Clay Matthews. You would look like the vato Matthews.

[Jason Smith]

If I didn't cut my hair for.

[Steve Covino]

Five months, dude, he looks like Danny Trejo.

[Jason Smith]

I just can't believe how handsome he looked. Like he hasn't groomed it in five months. If I didn't come here in five months, it just would look. It would look bad.

Why don't you do it?

[Steve Covino]

Let's see. With the long hair, I was Sam.

[Jason Smith]

I was Sam. How would your hair look if you didn't cut it for five months? I go six months.

I go six months between haircuts.

Dude, you know what? I swear, you had a Bob Ross thing going on for a while. I know.

I do.

So you know the fact that he says he hadn't cut it since December, it did stick out to me.

[Steve Covino]

Because I'm like, every two weeks, see a lot. A lot of black guys and Latino guys that have more of the fade. Look, two weeks, maybe I get a monthly spot, monthly haircut, maybe every month.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, if I go six weeks, that's.

[Steve Covino]

A long time, Shaggy.

[Jason Smith]

That's what I'm saying. So, I mean, the artist, he has to trim up his neck a little bit or something. 5 months. Good for field the eights. He was looking handsome last night.

[Steve Covino]

Sean and Sacktown. What you got, man? NFL draft. Go ahead.

[H]

Yeah. My favorite trio on the radio. First of all, I am over here dying at the Little Open. The story about Rich being a mascot, man, look, it took me back to my days at Chuck E. Cheese at Arden Fair Mall up here in Sacramento, man, the dopest Chucky in the building for all the same reasons. Goofy as hell had a little herbal remedy going before I even got in the suit. So, you know, it's gonna be hilarious. So Keep doing what you do, Rich. Take. Maybe take a little edible unlock. Even more greatness for them kids out there, man. But, hey, as far as.

[Steve Covino]

You know what. Hold on, Sean, hold on. We got a break, but I want to hear from you, as always, absolutely hang tight.

[Jason Smith]

And no Shadora, which we're going to talk about in a minute, but who else do we got here to wrap it up?

[Steve Covino]

We got Sean and Sacktown. Sean. What's up, my friend?

[H]

Just real quick, fellas, man, thank you for keeping me on through a break, too. Real quick. I think you guys can't echo enough how great Danny G's Raiders have had this offseason. Man, I thought picking up John T. Was the perfect ad. I know a lot of my Raider buddies up here in NorCal were just relieved they didn't reach with Shador Sanders, which would be total Raider thing to do in the past. So you got Pete Carroll, you get an O line up there, and you. I think they got to make him for a little playoff underdog this year. Fellas, y'all keep it. Y'all keep it rocking, man. I'll be up here with Rob Parker catching the A's game, man. We'll report back on Monday.

[Steve Covino]

Nice, though. That's a great place to check out a game. So enjoy. Genti to the Raiders. I think that's a great fit and.

[Jason Smith]

A great night for the Short Kings. Cause what is he, like, five, nine, tops? He's a small dude, man, but he's built like a brick.

[Steve Covino]

I mean, I'm just repeating what Danny said months ago, but it's so true. You said he's. He's. He's ripped like DK Metcalf, but he's a tiny bird. He's tiny. Like, he's like.

[Jason Smith]

He's like.

[Israel Gutierrez]

He. They said the way it was described to me, if you know who. Napoleon Kaufman, former Raider running back. Super fast, right? Yeah, he has that speed. But then, like, Bo Jackson, he could run guys over because he's so cut and big.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Israel Gutierrez]

So even though he's a short guy, compared to other NFL players, that doesn't show on the field, man. He's like a Saquon Barkley type freak.

[Steve Covino]

Like, Cove said a big night for Short Kings. I did think it was cool, though. You know, a lot of times when there's, like, product placement, you roll your eyes and like, oh, look at this trash. I get. It's like eye rolly.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

I thought the lids mirror was a cool thing I did. I thought it was a really cool way to incorporate it. You know how like red carpet sometimes they'll have like the shoe cam and women are like what shoe was she wearing? Watching the guys grab the hat, they changed the logo of the pedestal and just watching the guy smile putting on his new hat, I thought that was a really cool, I guess you would say natural way to incorporate a sponsor.

[Jason Smith]

Incorporate the sponsor but also see a little side of their personality.

[Steve Covino]

I think that's how they put on their hat.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah. How happy they really were, you know. Yeah. Added some fun to it for sure.

[Steve Covino]

Speaking of happy, I thought another observation. The fans of Green Bay that were there when Matthew golden got picked, I thought the owner, the fact that he admitted like for the first time in like decades we went with a wide receiver, wide receiver, receive. You take a listen.

[Danny G]

With a 23rd pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, the 13 time world champion Green Bay packers for the first time since 2002 draft, a wide receiver, Matthew golden, wide receiver.

[Steve Covino]

And at that point Aaron Rodgers like yeah, I know. For the first time since 2002 you0.

[Jason Smith]

Know also happened at that point like 3/4 of the crowd left because they were all like local Packer fans. They're like it's going about 10 o'clock now. We got to get up for work tomorrow so we're going to head out.

[Steve Covino]

I thought the, I thought the cool part of that was when he then grabbed the mic and he's like, yo, we're going to say Green Bay on three. Are you ready? One, two, three. And the whole crowd. Green Bay. So I mean it's got to be cool to be drafted in the home, in the home stadium in the home city.

[Jason Smith]

No doubt. Yeah, absolutely. It doesn't get bigger than that. So a big night. Lives were changed as we discussed yesterday. The franchises, stars were changed.

[Steve Covino]

Any hotties at night? I didn't see any. There was no like girlfriend.

[Jason Smith]

You know, I thought so much.

[Israel Gutierrez]

I thought oh, there was a WNBA player that was with Pierce supporting him.

[Steve Covino]

But yeah, I thought maybe I'm into like middle aged women now. I thought Jackson Dart's mom was in great shape for, for a mom. Did you see her? Was that his mom who looked like she was like Ms. Crossfit. Did you see her?

[Jason Smith]

I did. I know, I assume, I assume it's his mom. Right. But I don't know for sure.

[Steve Covino]

Clear the family stays in shape. Yeah, I assumed his dad was the bald guy and the mom was the like the in shape woman. I could be wrong maybe.

[Jason Smith]

What did you notice about Shador and his body language. I think he. Everything he said afterward, I respect it. He wasn't pouting about anything, which was nice, you know, but it had to be embarrassing for him and the family.

[Steve Covino]

Well, as you say, humbleness. And then your mom will correct you and say, steven, you idiot, it's humility.

[Jason Smith]

Maybe, like I said, but maybe that's what he needs.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe that's so.

[Jason Smith]

It's a blessing in disguise.

[Steve Covino]

Colin Cowherd on the Herd today. Who, you know, the face of our network. Yeah, I think we can only do Mike stars. Colin Cowherd went on a pretty cool rant, so I said I just wanted to pull 10 seconds of this. He talked about perhaps Prime Time and his kid. Humility is a thing, and you really have. He hasn't played one game in the NFL. And what was the sign say in his draft room? Like legendary.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, legendary.

[Steve Covino]

Legendary.

[Jason Smith]

Well, it's part of his motto.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, I know, but take a look.

[Jason Smith]

At the chain and everything.

[Steve Covino]

Colin, earlier today. Can we just go back in society where hard work matters and humility's not uncool, is humility the worst thing? You gotta put legendary everywhere. How about you play a game? 1. Just give me one game. And then you can put legendary all over your house. I don't care. One game. He hasn't played one game in the National Football League. And there is something. Listen, no one else had their own room, right? Everyone else was either with their family, on, you know, crappy recliners at home. Although hanging backstage, he.

[Jason Smith]

In fairness, it's like a family sort of model that he's running with. And the motto was be legendary, but he's wearing that legendary chain. And legendary has become the model. But it's be legendary. And it's meant to emphasize his aspirations to achieve greatness, all aspects of life, football and personal life. So it's like a. It's almost like a family mantra.

[Steve Covino]

I get it.

[Jason Smith]

But. But I totally understand what Colin's saying, too. And that's exactly what we were saying prior to this with. Maybe he rubbed people the wrong way. I mean, there was a lot of buzz about him being a little too cocky and a little too big for the moment.

[Steve Covino]

Trust me, prime is a little sensitive about it. Did you see how he went at Dan Orlofsky? Dan Orlovsky has been a big fan all along. He criticized one little thing, like, maybe this is why he's dropped down. And prime went at him on social media like, yo, I thought we were, you know, I thought we were together. And I Thought you had our back.

[Jason Smith]

And Orlovsky's a nice dude. He seems like a fair guy. I mean it's fair to speculate.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, right.

[Jason Smith]

That's. Why didn't he go and we heard a lot of buzz about him being cocky and we talked about the interview process. We know the guy's got potential. We know what he's capable of. You know, he has the potential to be great. You know, what his dad did. That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Yeah, but.

[Steve Covino]

And Mel Kuiper had number one. Right.

[Jason Smith]

What we don't know is the interview process and how he rubs people or how he comes across.

[Steve Covino]

Well, let me ask you, if some kid came in here, you know, it's. I hate to say, but we're not kids anymore. Some 20 something year old kid comes into Fox Sports and he's like, yo, I'm going to change the culture here. I'm the man that could be interpreted a yo, I like his fire. I want him part of this team. Or who the F do you think you are? So it really is in the ear of the beholder, the eye of the beholder.

[Danny G]

Let me ask you guys this because this is one of my thoughts. In a league that is so dependent on quarterback that we saw it in this draft where Cam Ward's number one.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Who's the eighth best prospect by Daniel Jeremiah on this draft board. Throughout the draft process, we've heard that the six quarterbacks that went last year all would have gone before Cam Ward. You know, in this draft to what point is it that it's just he's not up to that level. Like there have always been quarterbacks to that point. And I completely agree. Like there are things that can rub a team the wrong way and if you're 50, 50 about someone. But I just feel it's such the total package and if he can't play and everything else comes with it, then you're going to fall. Like teams weren't even willing. Tennessee took a risk in taking Cam Ward because they feel they need a quarterback. Nobody else wanted to do that in the first round outside the Giants trading up to try to get Shador. I mean at some point you can point to everything, but you got to look within then.

[Steve Covino]

That's a great point because we've talked about how, hey, a guy that's been in the league one or two years that has sort of struggled, why are we quick to write him off and automatically think just because someone's in the draft this year, like you said, they ranked last year, six QBs that got drafted ahead of Cam Ward, who went number one. But dude, when you saw Pittsburgh pass on him.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And just really fundamentally when they pass.

[Jason Smith]

On him, I am immediately thought, well, man, they must be. Be banking on Rogers eggs. Must be all, all in that basket.

[Steve Covino]

But also fundamentally, like to think we have other needs at other positions and we don't think Shador is the guy. If you're taking a non. When I say sexy position, if it's not a quarterback, running back or wide receiver, when your team picks an O line or, you know, I think absolutely, it shows that the team is thinking bigger, right? You think bigger.

[Jason Smith]

I think on the positive side of things though, maybe that's exactly what Sanders needs, which is a reality check, right. And it's the flash. And it really benefits him in the long run because it forces him to step up in every way, some humility, some. Some extra work.

[Steve Covino]

It's the flashy pick versus the realistic, sensible pick. And I've joked with you about how in baseball, you know where that always happens when the team has a managerial opening and the team always wants the new manager to be like a former player everyone liked. And it's like that. Why do we always think that that's the guy that's gonna be able to lead your team? Every franchise in baseball manager gets fired. You know what they say, yo, is there someone from our World Series winning team from like a decade ago or so that could lead this team? That's the pick that, like, if today, if the Steelers had chosen Chador, we would all be talking about Pittsburgh then the Steelers today. But they said, you know what? That's not what we need in this moment. And again, humility or not, hey, humility.

[Jason Smith]

Or not, everybody's talking about him. So he does have that going for him, right?

[Steve Covino]

Is there a part of you that says you do it to yourself? But hey, he accepts that responsibility and that pressure. Because I said, there's two places people were last night, right? They were all backstage in what looked like an Ashley furniture warehouse, chilling out together. Or they were at home with their families on, you know, middle class family recliners. Shedeur was the one guy that had a special setup, a party room. I mean, aren't you already now at that, in that moment, isolating yourself?

[Israel Gutierrez]

He needed a soundproofed room and a sound man for his concert he put on in there.

[Jason Smith]

So that's the thing, and that's what rubs people the wrong way a little bit. But that's also who he is. But maybe this is what he needs and this is what puts him where he needs to be. So, like we said, a blessing to the noise.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Or does he just not care because he heard all this going into the draft and he did rub some teams the wrong way in the interview process. But to DB's point, when you look at his numbers and which teams he played against, it wasn't really comparable to Jackson Dart because of the competition Jackson Dart went up against. And so, Rich, I saw a great article last night that said his numbers match more closely to Brock Purdy than Jackson than to Jackson Dart. So, I mean, it's not that Shadors can't be a great player. He's a great athlete. And like your boy said, even though they're coming down on Orlovsky right now, he's the one that said I think he has elite field vision and he's a great athlete. We just don't know enough about him because of the competition and the bad O line that he had.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about that. He's hard to evaluate. It's like a nice way of saying he's a. He's an empty fajita. All sizzle, no. No substance, no meat fajita. You know, it's just a question mark.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Like, you just don't know.

[Steve Covino]

I would call my son a fajita.

[Jason Smith]

But I'm not saying he's an empty fajita. I'm just saying that he's a lot of flash. It's like when that waiter comes out with that sils and fajita, everybody looks.

[Steve Covino]

Like, ooh, ooh, an old Fashioned with smoke that comes out of it.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah. Oh, but, you know, but maybe it's not all that great. We don't know. I haven't had it yet.

[Danny G]

You know, Daniel. Jeremiah told the story to the guys on barstool about Paxton lynch, former Broncos first round pick and he said that he went to the, to the bowl game, I believe it was that Memphis was playing and noticed that Paxton lynch wasn't talking to other coaches or other teammates on the sidelines. It was kind of by himself that there wasn't like this engagement process. We laugh about the draft day movie and the theory of like, how many players went to your birthday party, the whole deal. We laugh at the questions that are asked these players in the combine. You know, if you were couldn't wear blue jeans, what color pants do you wear, what animal would you be? But all of that is taken into account. So to also think of everything that comes with Shador like, yeah, plays into it. Like, it has to.

[Steve Covino]

I mean, I told you the coffee. Did we hear or was. Matu and I talked about how employers. I saw an article about the coffee test where they offer you a cup of coffee during the interview and they see if you throw out your cup of coffee at the end or you leave it there for someone else to throw it away.

[Jason Smith]

Like, little quarterback is a super special position, obviously a leadership position, too, where, you know, are you the type of guy that's gonna rub people the wrong way or are you the type of guy that's gonna. That's gonna lead by example, where the players want to fight for you? And when you're separating yourself, like, you're already the superstar, it's kind of hard to be one with the rest of the team, you know, and it puts you in a different place. Like, do you want to fight for the guy that separates himself from the pack, or do you want to fight for the guy that's just one of the guys?

[Steve Covino]

That's what made me love.

[Jason Smith]

That's what's tough.

[Steve Covino]

Maxwell Hairston, who the Buffalo Bills pick, because not only did he come out with that enthusiasm and, you know, it just seems such. Like a. Such a sincere, loving dude. He was, bro. Hugging and really excited for everyone else. And there was a. A part of him that you felt like, that's a guy you want on your team.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

You know, I don't know if anyone else has heard this second shout out to our buddy Michael, yo, today listening in Vegas. He's your.

[Jason Smith]

Is he your. Your ghostwriter?

[H]

No.

[Steve Covino]

No. Well, no, he's a big. He's a Miami guy, so he's a big Cam Warrior. You know what?

[Jason Smith]

Rich has had some good points lately. I think he's getting it from Michael.

[Steve Covino]

Y said he's a big Cam Ward guy. And a big mistake Shador made perhaps is that he did a workout with Cam Ward. And a lot of people from that workout came away saying that Cam Ward looked a lot better than Shador in that. In that workout together. So, you know, that's another thing, too. Like, you don't want to go to the bar with a better looking dude trying to pick up women. Right?

[Jason Smith]

But, dude, let's also make clear you.

[Steve Covino]

Don'T want to do that.

[Jason Smith]

Let's all make this clear. We all grew up fans of his dad, right? And we all got excited when we started seeing him play.

[Steve Covino]

And I'll be honest, anyone's.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, I don't think anyone's rude rooting for the guy. I mean, not rooting for the guy. We're all rooting for the guy. So we're just speculating on, well, what is it then? Because we're all rooting for him. And if I were to say, Rich, I'm not one to grade. I. I think the teams that stand out are the Giants. And we said that yesterday. They made some sweet moves. The Giants with Carter and Dart, the Titans with Ward, the Jags with Hunter and Danny G. Your Raiders man, Genti. Yeah. You can't. You cannot include your Raiders with some sweet moves or something to be excited about, especially when you think about the other moves they made this off season. So who are you most excited about, Richard? Is there another team I'm forgetting about? I would say Giants, titans, Jags, Raiders.

[Steve Covino]

49Ers took Mikhail Williams out of Georgia. Listen, Edge rusher opposite Nick Bosa. Some liked it, some didn't. So listen, everyone has their needs, right?

[Jason Smith]

Everybody has their needs. But as far as, like, sexy, I think those are the teams that stood out. Like, ooh, those are some. Those are some nice moves.

[Steve Covino]

Now, I was gonna say Brandon, who works here, who's a big Niners fan, that I'll be. I'll be truthful. He's more knowledgeable than me. When you dig down deeper, like, he's. He's a fn. He's a maniac. In fact, he did not like the pick. Right? I was. Sam.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah. No, he. He immediately after came out, he says, I hate this pick.

[Steve Covino]

Ah. But then again, you know what? I saw it float around. I put on my Instagram story if you want to see it at Rich Davis. The clip of those fans saying, Josh Allen. We wanted Josh Rosen. And then there's a clip right after that attached to the same clip where it's the. The Chiefs fan saying, Patrick Mahomes. There's no wonder this team will never win. So, you know, every year, the swings and misses, people miss. It happens. Rich.

[Israel Gutierrez]

A lot. Quite a few of the mock drafts leading up to this had your Niners going with Will Johnson, the. The corner from Michigan.

[Steve Covino]

Now, I saw that, too.

[Israel Gutierrez]

He was injured last season, but aside from that, he is a great defensive back. He's available right now. That's one of the other things that makes the top of the second round here, because will the Browns right off the bat, go with Shador? And once we get then to the Raiders at 37, would they go with Shador to sit behind Geno Smith? Because that's kind of the comp. That was the comp. For Shador yesterday on a lot of the shows was his ceiling is kind of like Geno Smith right now.

[Jason Smith]

You'd be pumped for that. Danny Gino.

[Israel Gutierrez]

I mean I think the Raiders. I think the Raiders have some bigger needs. They. They definitely need some help in their defensive backfield. If Will Johnson is sitting there at 37, I would go that route. But I haven't been this hyped about a second round for a long time.

[Steve Covino]

You know what tight ends. Dan Byer is a true first time. This many tight ends in the first round. I believe I heard that stat being thrown around.

[Danny G]

We had two. At least two. There's. Yeah, yeah. And Loveland. Yeah. And there. There are a couple of other tight ends too in this draft that are. That could be a variety could be picked in the first 15 picks or so. Mason Taylor of LSU is one other. Some big wide receivers.

[Steve Covino]

We've all noticed over the decade the increased role offensively of tight ends in the NFL. So, you know, some of these guys looking to make a Brock Bowers type of impact. Right.

[Jason Smith]

True.

[Danny G]

And. And. But it hasn't gone to the Jimmy Graham like the more you block, I think is more intriguing. Now you love a Swiss army life like Tyler Warren as well. But like you have to. You now have to line up and be able to hit somebody.

[Steve Covino]

You want to see a guy like George Kittle mow people over and look like a maniac.

[Danny G]

Yeah. I think, you know, he's obviously been one. Gronk is obviously the standard bearer, but yeah, for sure.

[Jason Smith]

Do you. Mason Taylor, a very famous father and famous aunt.

[Steve Covino]

Do you know who Tim the Tool Man Taylor?

[Jason Smith]

No, it's his. His aunt is Joy Taylor and. And then her brother is of course give me flank on his first name.

[Danny G]

Jason Taylor.

[Jason Smith]

Jason Taylor of the Mason Taylor. I've been watching for a few years. The guy's really good.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Really good.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, look at that.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Talent in the family. Talent in the fam. So to wrap this all up because we got games to play and weekend.

[Jason Smith]

Hobnobbin, I think Danny G hit it perfectly. So all the things that happened yesterday make today round two even more exciting.

[Steve Covino]

I'm going to be. I'm going to sound like I'm the host of the Bachelor. This is the most exciting round two ever. Yeah, I've never cared about round two exactly as much as I've cared about this year's round two. So I wrap up the conversation with this question. Look at the beginning of round two. Where does Shador go? What do you think Danny where did you think? You think.

[Jason Smith]

Well, you know, there's a lot of speculation, too, and a lot of people. I don't know, people just want to see drama, I guess, who think that he might not go at all. I disagree with that.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Saints are coming up at 40, so wouldn't surprise if he slips down past the Browns and the Raiders. That would put him the 40th pick overall to the Saints.

[Steve Covino]

All right, round two. We start with Cleveland. Houston's got their quarterback. Titans. No, Raiders.

[Israel Gutierrez]

The Browns have two picks in there right away.

[Steve Covino]

What about the Raiders at 37? Do you have no interest? Gino's like, you like. Is that. That.

[Israel Gutierrez]

It's not that I don't have any interest. I. If Will Johnson is there, yeah, I was saying I would go cornerback first.

[Steve Covino]

But I'm saying with Tom Brady and his relationship with prime time and the fact that you got Genty, you got Brock Bowers, you're building a pretty sweet offense. Younger and Gino, you know, too many.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Holes on the defensive side of the ball for the Raiders right now.

[Steve Covino]

I think he's going to go the Raiders.

[Jason Smith]

I think he. And I think he fits in with the Raiders nice. I don't know, he just feels like a. He'd look good in silver and black.

[Danny G]

I told Danny a month ago I think the Raiders are destined to take Jalen Milroe because that is the Chip Kelly.

[Steve Covino]

Yep, that's a good one, too.

[Danny G]

Carroll, you know, Pete Carroll would always take shots with Russell Wilson, they take four or five shots in a game. But you'd love the mobility of Jalen Millere.

[Steve Covino]

I have a crazy question. If somehow, some way, Shador doesn't go to the Raiders at 37, the fifth pick in the second round, if he. He again goes past the Saints without getting picked, which would seem crazy if he doesn't go with pick 40 to the Saints.

[Jason Smith]

Well, did he pay rent for two nights of the party room or no? How does that work? Does he have it. Does he have it booked again? How does that even work?

[Steve Covino]

I don't know. I hope it's not like rental cars where you add a day and it's like triple the charge. Are there New York fans thinking, could he slip to pick 42 with the jets and the jets have Justin Field, but that's. That's really sort of an experiment in itself. No, I mean, you paid them for two years, but there's going to be a team eventually that's like, why the hell not, right? Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. I don't know if you knew this, but anyone can get the same Premium Wireless for $15 a month plan that I've been enjoying. It's not just for celebrities.

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[Danny G]

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[Jason Smith]

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[Steve Covino]

All right, it's time to play Covino or Belichick. Let's go.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Steve Covino and Bill Belichick have some things in common.

[Steve Covino]

They do.

[Jason Smith]

Belichick's the man. They both have younger girlfriends named Jordan the man. If that was my daughter, they both.

[Steve Covino]

Have a powerful presence in the sports world. Work harder so you can do that.

[Jason Smith]

When you're 72, you tell us, is.

[Israel Gutierrez]

It Steve Covina or Bill Belichick?

[Steve Covino]

Check.

[Jason Smith]

I'm not mad at him at all. I want to know what it is. You know what it is. The similarities are endless.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Israel Gutierrez]

The only difference is Bill is like five or six years older than Covina.

[Jason Smith]

Five or six.

[Steve Covino]

I was Sam. Danny, do we have a contestants lined up?

[Israel Gutierrez]

We are going to meet our contestant in just a moment. I'm going to let Byer pick here. All right. DB Would you love to travel to beautiful Missoula, Montana? Las Vegas, Nevada, West Palm Beach, Florida, or Temple, Texas?

[Danny G]

Let's go to West Palm.

[Israel Gutierrez]

West Palm is Mike.

[Steve Covino]

Mikey, how's it going? Hey, you ready to play?

[Israel Gutierrez]

Hey, Mike, really quick. What do you do for a living there in Florida?

[H]

I work at a cemetery.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, I mean, Florida, as they say, where New Yorkers gonna die.

[Israel Gutierrez]

All right, here is how Covino.

[Steve Covino]

Waiting room. This is waiting room.

[Israel Gutierrez]

This is how Covino or Belichick works. I've done extensive research on Coach and Covino and their young girlfriends. Each member of the crew is going to read a fun fact, and then you got to tell us, is it Steve Covino or Bill Belichick? You have five chances to get two correct. Are you ready?

[H]

I'm ready.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Okay. Rich Davis is going to read the first fun fact.

[Steve Covino]

All right? This guy. Whether it's Belichick or Kvino, their Jordan once had a pet goat named Bach. Buck, Kavino or Belichick, their Jordan once had a pet goat named Buckbok.

[Israel Gutierrez]

I don't know.

[Jason Smith]

I don't know if I know this.

[H]

Let's go. Belichick.

[Jason Smith]

No, that was actually my girlfriend. Yeah, she lived on a farm. Are you serious? She had goats and stuff?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, she's from Idaho. Oh, my. I didn't know this.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, she. She bounced around, but I know she lived on a farm. She always talks about this goat she had.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Wait, really?

[Jason Smith]

Yeah.

[Israel Gutierrez]

All right.

[Jason Smith]

And now she has this goat. What's up? Yeah. The greatest of all time.

[Steve Covino]

Goat boy.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Yeah, don't worry, Mikey. You got four more chances to get two. Right. All right, Dan Byer is going to read the second fun fact.

[Danny G]

All right? He once said, quote, you get the job done or you don't. End quote.

[Steve Covino]

Wow.

[Danny G]

Kavino or Belichick? That's correct.

[Jason Smith]

Yes.

[Israel Gutierrez]

All right, so you're on the board. Halfway to a swiggy. And yeah, Covino has said some very thoughtful things on the air before, but never that line.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, never that line specifically. Great job.

[Israel Gutierrez]

All right, Spot has the third fun fact.

[Jason Smith]

I feel like this is going to.

Be as tough as the goat question because they're both equally have huge personalities.

He was on a reality TV program.

In the early 2000s a lot going on for both of them in the early 2000s. Is it Cavino or Belichick?

[Steve Covino]

Cavino. Yes, that's correct.

[Israel Gutierrez]

We have a winner, Mike in West Palm Beach, Florida. To correct there, that means we're gonna mail.

[Jason Smith]

What was the name of the show? Yeah, I was on a show called the Empire Girls and I was like the only Empire boy. And that show aired on Style and remember Style? It was Style and E. The E. Network. And now it's on like Amazon and my daughter's friends find it and make fun of her about it. It's horrible. It's horribly embarrassing.

[Steve Covino]

I remember your ex wife was on it, which is why you were on it. And you guys were fighting about moving to New York and la, and I was like, what premonitions of that going wrong?

[Jason Smith]

It was horrible. But, man, we got a win.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Hey, Mike, Mike, we're going to mail out a shiny CNR stainless steel Swiggy to Florida for you, okay?

[Steve Covino]

Is it your ex wife on the Real Housewives of Encino because of you? No.

[Jason Smith]

And now it's time for weekend Hobnobbin.

[Steve Covino]

Living for the weekend.

[Jason Smith]

You're winning bets for talking points. If you get stuck socializing.

[Steve Covino]

You ever done anything dangerous?

[Danny G]

You ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

[Jason Smith]

That is dangerous.

[Steve Covino]

Friday brings us weekend Hobnob.

[Jason Smith]

All right, so you know I love me a good fight, right?

[Steve Covino]

We need to get props, though. That's Bub Rub well, bro, people realize that.

[Jason Smith]

Whistle go.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Woo.

[Steve Covino]

That's the.

[Jason Smith]

From the Oakland area.

[Steve Covino]

One of my favorite clips of the 2000s.

[Jason Smith]

Whistles Go. Whoo. So Chris Eubanks is fighting Connor Ben. Middleweight boxing match on the zone, but pretty decent UFC card. If you like ufc, you got Gary Ian Machado, Gary versus Carlos Prate. Smith versus this is Ming Yang. Some good UFC if you want to see some fights. Got a little UFC and a little boxing going on this weekend.

[Steve Covino]

We're all waiting for May 2nd. That's real boxing. I was just going to say Times Square outdoors.

[Jason Smith]

That's Teofimo, Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney Garcia headlining that fight. That's May 2nd. So, yeah, it's all building up for that. I started it last night after the draft. I'm going to continue tonight. Joe Goldberg is back. You on Netflix. And I always look at it like Dexter Light. Dexter Light. And what I've noticed, Rich, is Joe Goldberg went from like a guy being obsessed with, you know, women, like sort of a stalker kind of guy. Like, it's just a straight up murderer. Now he's Just murdering people like a weirdo. And for whatever reason, we kind of like Joe Goldberg. You, I think it's the final, if I'm not mistaken. So I always like that show. So far, it's pretty dece. And I'll give ourselves some props. If you missed it yesterday, I don't blame you. Everybody's tuned into the draft. It was an exciting night. We talked about it all day. Continues today. You gotta watch over promised our bonus pod that's on fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. You could listen, but we prefer you watch it because we welcome KFC from Barstool, Kevin Clancy. We had 30 minutes with the One Minute man and we got his backstory, his relationship with Portnoy, how he ended up in this spot, chopped it up and just hung out. Anyway, he's a really good dude, so got to know Kevin a little bit better on overpromised. Check it out and let us know what you think.

[Steve Covino]

I have you also on my list. Might as well finish the show I started back in the day, right. As you said, Dexter Light you is back on Netflix. If you have Apple TV with just cheapskate Cavinos like, I don't have it. Spend the five bucks, six bucks or whatever, I'm good. You know what?

[Jason Smith]

Because there's always something else to watch.

[Steve Covino]

The show that I'm so pulled into right now. And there's a new episode today. Danny G, episode four.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Your friends and neighbors with Jon Hamm.

[Israel Gutierrez]

10 out of 10.

[Steve Covino]

Many people are saying, and I agree, his best stuff since Mad Men. He's so cool. There's something so cool about Jon Hamm. The story's, like, so upsetting, yet awesome. So Jon Hammer, your friends and neighbors. Olivia Munn is also in that. Looking beautiful. And remember from Amanda, Pete from a bunch of stuff in the 2000s.

[Jason Smith]

How about John Ham's Ham?

[Steve Covino]

Does he get credit? John Ham's ham does get credit.

[Jason Smith]

Oh, nice.

[Steve Covino]

So your friends and neighbors. Fantastic. There's a show on Netflix. I feel like this is something you'd pass by because it was a cowboy hat and Kavino is very judgmental. Ransom Canyon.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Oh, it's so cheesy.

[Steve Covino]

It looks so cheesy, but it's bad. My observation with my wife, Danny is that it stars Josh Duhamel and Minka Kelly, who in my mind are both like young hotties and they're both, like, older now.

[Israel Gutierrez]

It's like a Hallmark movie trying to have Yellowstone level drama.

[Steve Covino]

Yellowstone meets Hallmark.

[Israel Gutierrez]

It's torture.

[Steve Covino]

But in my mind, I'm like, oh, Josh Duhamel, he's like a young stud. And Minka Kelly, Woohoo. And I'm like, wait, no, they're all like, they're both like middle aged.

[Jason Smith]

Now is it Timothy Oliphant or Josh Duhamel?

[Steve Covino]

That's, that's available. And Camino, per your recommendation. Because I give you props on like. You never give me props. I watch some of these History Channel food specials. There's one about the history of salsa. I'm not even joking.

[Jason Smith]

This is most Bobby salsa, bro.

[Steve Covino]

There's the mo. It's the most interesting crap I've ever seen in my life. The invention of the Doritos is the guy from Pace, the guy that invented.

[Jason Smith]

Paste Tostitos and Doritos salsa.

[Steve Covino]

It is fascinating. So if you, if you want to know the history of food, there's a bunch of new episodes of the Food.

[Jason Smith]

That made America and the Food that Built America.

[Steve Covino]

Built America on the History Channel.

[Jason Smith]

Yeah, it's a great series.

[Steve Covino]

All right. Anything else?

[Jason Smith]

But I mean, if you're heading to.

The theater, I gotta mention the accountant 2.

[Steve Covino]

Yep.

[Danny G]

Loved the first one. Ben Affleck, Josh or John Bernthal.

[Steve Covino]

Yep.

[Danny G]

Great action movie.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Really? Check it out.

[Jason Smith]

And if you're a big fan, you said the first one was great and maybe we should watch the first one. I never watched it.

[Steve Covino]

Danny, any. Any throw ins?

[Israel Gutierrez]

Really Quick until Dawn horror movie drops a video game to the theater. So check that out if you love that genre.

[Steve Covino]

I know you're gonna be watching the Lakers tonight.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Of course.

[Steve Covino]

Until then, Ariba Dare you baby.

[Jason Smith]

See you in the promised land later, guys.

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[Danny G]

The 40s and free agents Podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2025 NFL Draft.

[Jason Smith]

Lisa told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the postseason.

[Danny G]

And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft.

[Jason Smith]

So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made.

[Danny G]

Listen to the 40s and free agents podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Sam Mullins and I've got a new podcast coming out called goboy the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable.

[Jason Smith]

Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted.

[Israel Gutierrez]

Has spent 24 of those years in jail.

[Danny G]

But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex con to a literary darling. From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast podcasts. I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty, the story of how the Golden State warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade.

[Steve Covino]

The Golden State warriors once again are NBA champions today.

[Danny G]

The warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to love.

[Jason Smith]

For what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that Mount west war.

[Danny G]

Come rest, revisit this magical warrior's ride. Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You feeling this Too is a horror anthology podcast. It brings different creators to tell 10.

[Steve Covino]

Vile.

[Danny G]

Grotesque, oh my God horrific stories on what scares them the most.

[Steve Covino]

You feeling this too?

[Israel Gutierrez]

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.

[Danny G]

Or wherever you get your podcasts.