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Find your local station, Cavino and rich@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR the money these athletes make nowadays. Sounds like something a boomer would say, right? The money these athletes make nowadays that just the headline's funny. When you see the headline that says 49ers lowball, Brock Purdy starting at 45 million a year, and just think of that number, lowballing. That sounds just about right. Lowballing at 45 million a year. That's a low ball number. I guess when you think you're making 50 to 60, where that. I think. I'm just saying that sounds fair, right? Oh, I agree. They'll probably give more than that. But if anyone thinks that's a low ball starting point. I was going to say, keep in mind, it's called the negotiation. Right. So who in any negotiation starts high? No, there's got to be a little back and forth. Your boss doesn't say, here's all the money we're wheeling out for you. You have to negotiate for that. Right, Right. So I think it's a fair starting point. I do. I don't think he's worth much more than that, especially if you want a nice team behind him. Well, what did my grandfather used to tell me about baseball cards? And it applies to everything in life. They're worthless, Richie. No, no. They're only worth what someone's willing to give you for them. Yeah, but Grandpa, Jose rated Rookie is worth $85. Oh, Richie boy, who's gonna give you $85? Well, no, I don't know, Grandpa, but you'll see no one. I'm just saying if the Niners Billy Ripken's an error card, it's worth $35. Grandpa, it says F face. There's an infinity on it. Oh. So with the baseball card theory, I just look at it as well. Who's going to give Brock purdy more than 45 to $50 million a year? If you say the Niners say, all right, four years, 185. Like a little more than 45 a year. One. You know, four years, 190. If he's between 40 and $50 million a year. You don't think they could negotiate and settle on a sweet 50? That's nice. Four years, two hundo, a little in between. He wants 60, they want 40. They meet in the middle of 50. If Brock Purdy gets four years, 200, I think most people would be happy. But you got to ask yourself, if the Niners don't. It goes with dating. It goes at work. It goes with baseball cards. It goes with everything in life. You're only. The market will dictate what you're worth. Right? You're only worth what people are willing to pay. You'll think I'm the hottest commodity. Yeah. Go on a dating app, they'll tell you if you're a hot commodity. Go to a bar. You'll see who hits on you. You'll see who gives you their number, who. Who trades DMS with you. You're. The market tells you. The dating world tells you. Your boss will tell you. Because if you don't like what you're getting paid and you think you're worth more, someone else will give it to you. But I gotta ask the question. Who's gonna give Brock Purdy 55, $60 million a year? If the Niners say, yeah, we're not doing that, is some team gonna be like, we desperately need Brock? Listen, I love Brock Purdy, but he's not Mahomes. He's not Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. That's not. He's that next tier solid quarterback that's doing well for this team. Will that translate on another team? That's the other risk that a team would have to take and that he would have to take. You see that bump? If I were him, I'd. I'd want to stay there at a sweet 50. You see anything as close as possible to 50? Just because I know I fit in here and I'm welcomed here. You see that clickbait stuff that's been going around the last couple days? Where, ooh, could. Are the Titans interested in Brock Purdy? And I'm like, you know what? If you want to pay Brock Purdy. Yeah, but it's not always that. I don't want to put ourselves in an awkward situation, Rich, because I would like to negotiate someday, but you have to factor in, like, let's say someone offered us more money. Are they going to still let us do what we do? Are we going to be as happy? There's other things. There's so many other factors. Is he going to shine as bright somewhere else and fit into the system the way he does in San Francisco. These are things he needs to keep in mind. It's not always about chasing the bag because he can go to Tennessee or somewhere else and stink it up and his career's down the drain. Chasing the bag so many times, it's like, dude, you're playing good, you know, stay there. If you're happy and you're playing well and they're being fair, that's the thing. And I think sometimes that only comes with wisdom. Sure, I'd want to get paid more, but I would factor in. But I'm very happy where I'm at. And like I said, I want to get in our own way and then have Fox Sports say, well, then here's this, right? Don't show. You. Don't play your. Don't show us your hands. You don't want to show all your hand, but that's the truth. If you're happy where you're at, you got to factor that into the equation. I'm not sure Brock Purdy can go somewhere else and light it up. And with all these big deals, you saw Max Crosby get paid yesterday. Danny G. And the Raiders nation very happy there. There is a layer where once you make a certain amount of money, and again, I'm not spending, nothing bothers me more. When other people spend your money, like, mentally, like, you should do this. You should do this. When you say, why would the athlete take more money to go there? Listen, some people really are just about the money. But when you're making 40, 50, $60 million a year, it's not like $5 million more is gonna make you happy. You have so much money. Isn't there all those studies that show, like, once you hit a certain level, you're not happier if you make more than that. Ask Jim Carrey, your hero. He always seeing the top of the mountain. He's seen the top of the mountain, and it's not all it's cracked up to be. Like Danny G brought up recently, that was the Aaron Rodgers story. He won the Super Bowl. That was his lifelong dream as a kid playing football growing up, that was the goal. Once he got there and won it, it's like, all right, well, what else is going to make me happy? An extra $5 million rich is not going to make Brock Purdy happier. Him playing well, being embraced by the fans and the team, that's where it's at. So you find a compromise. You settle at. They're offering 45 a year. Yeah. Anything close to 50, take it. The reality. If it was a game show, if it was like dealer no deal, I'd take it. Take it, take it. It seems obvious, right? But when you think about how we talk about these big numbers, put in perspective, someone that makes. Give me a good round number. You know, a guy that makes $100,000 doing a sales job. Okay, hundred thousand dollars, he would work 20 years to make $2 million. Put in perspective, you talk about someone, someone makes half a million dollars and they're, you know, ballin'you, know, they're the VP of their company making half a million dollars it would take to make $20 million. It's about fair though, Rich. It's about fair or not. Can't compare Brock Purdy and his career in professional sports to anyone else. Is it fair? And it does sounds fair. I know what you're saying. You can't compare. But what I'm saying is one year of Brock Purdy making $50 million after taxes, agent fees, all that, let's say he comes away with 20 something mil. 20 something million dollars is probably 10 times more than most people will make in their whole life. Yeah, sad. So with that said, happiness, where you'll win, all these other things have to play a role. And if Brock Purdy is not a flashy guy and he's a humble guy, let's say he buys a house in the Bay Area or wherever he wants to live, a 5, 10 million dollar house, he could pay it in cash and still be like, yeah, I'm good for the rest of my life. No one's gonna say, poor Brock Purdy, look at him, he's on OnlyFans now. He's going to be just fine. Also a big part of your happiness. For us, it's our bosses and who we work for in the NFL. It's your coaches, coaching staff, especially your head coach, your offensive coordinator, in his case, you know, a defensive coordinator for like Hendrickson. And in Cincy, if he leaves and goes elsewhere. Okay, but are you going to get along with the coaches the way you do in Cincinnati? Coaches that, that believed in him and banked on him, like Brock Purdy. I'm not saying he owes anything to John lynch and Kyle Shanahan, but they certainly had his back to get him to this point. Exactly. That's all. We can move on. But it's interesting because he's a very specific story though too, Rich. Yeah, I just saw the headline as I walked in the studio. This is not what I planned on. Starting with But I saw the headline. It said, brock Purdy getting low balled. And I'm like, when you tell me that this guy's going to probably end up with four years, couple hundred million dollars, that's the low ball. Like, these guys are living in a fantasy. Lowball. He was Mr. Irrelevant. That's great. This great story continues as far as I see it. That's amazing when you talk about people winning the Powerball. Yeah. This is incredible. It's the same thing. This is the continuation of an incredible story he's getting. What? That's great. Take it. Brock, you're the man. And Tom Brady historically, has been known to be the guy that takes a little less money for the greater good. And look what it got him. More contracts. Longevity, by the way, championships. That's how you do it. You follow the blueprint. There's not necessarily a blueprint in life. Right. But Tom Brady did leave a pretty nice blueprint on how to win. And if that's how he did it, and he's one of the goats, is Brock Purdy better than Tom Brady? I don't think so. In fact, I know so. So I would say that's great. Footsteps to follow. Now, talking about the NFL, let's pivot. Pivot. Now, you don't watch Friends. You never saw other. You know, I know the reference, though. I'm not a bozo. Kavino's too busy getting booty. When everyone else was watching friends in the 90s, I know they were carrying a couch up the steps. What would he do? I've seen it. Whoopity do. I've seen it. Pivot. Let's pivot to the bigger stories in the NFL, in my opinion, which is all these superstars demanding trades or asking their team like, yeah, you got to trade me. Debo Samuel, DK Metcalf, Trey Hendrickson, these are Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. These are big name guys. And you saw it in the NBA. Jimmy Butler is the new way in sports. If you're a superstar, if you just. Part of my language. If you just bitch and complain enough. Is that your way to get what you want? Like, don't we teach our kids the opposite? Like. Like, that would be like telling your kid, like, stop crying and I'll get you Robbins. You want to go to Cold Stone Creamery, Simmer down. Like, that's bad parenting. We're giving it to bad parenting. And complain. My dad would say. And moan. Yeah. Moans ago. Yeah, that's. You mentioned moaning. That's the excuse. But is that. Is that the way. It's been the way for a minute now. I don't think this is anything new. It's a matter of, do you give into it or not? And the phrase over the years, I look at it this way, you're a disgruntled employee, then beat it. It's like Aaron Judge recently said when asked about the facial hair, right? The facial hair change. I heard he has a Fu Manchu now. Is that true? No. He said he's choosing to not have facial hair, at least for now. He does in the off season. But he said, look, the greats before me did it that way in respect to them and the traditions. You know, I'm fine with them, cool with it. He said, but if that was the determining factor of you wanting to play here or not, then maybe you shouldn't play here. Like, if that's really what it means to you, like, then you're not thinking big picture of what it really means to play for this team, then you don't want to be on this team anyway. Even Johnny Damon said that recently. He's like, yo, man, I loved my beard, but I wanted to play for the Yankees. If you really want to play for that team, you're not going to act this way. So as an owner who's paying you ridiculous money, I would take the approach of like, then beat it. I'm a believer. I'm a girl in a relationship who's acting ho hum about you. It's like, I know it's easier said than done, but it's like, well, if you don't want to be with me, I want to be with someone that wants to be with me. So then go and see if the grass is greener. And that's what these owners are doing. And I'm glad. It's not a matter of them giving in. It's a matter of them saying, don't beat it. Get out of my face. I see what you're saying, but I know we've always heard the phrase, squeaky wheel gets the oil that goes back generations, right? Like, you know, complain enough that you know you'll get attention. I know I hate it, Rich, but it's true. I know what you're saying. You're saying, yo, if you don't want to be in this marriage or relationship, or you don't want to be at this company, or you don't want to be part of this radio show or TV show, if you don't want to be here, get out. There's the door. But that's the Reality, there's contracts, dude. Like a guy. If you're telling me DK Metcalf just is like, yeah, I'm sort of done. Okay. He dictate this. Fox Sports Radio Nation. If you're a small business owner, pretend you are. If you're not, you have a disgruntled employee. He can't be replaced. Beat it. You want that guy working for your company when you're trying to put a good product out there? That's really what this is. On a grander scale, contract or not, if this guy's unhappy, he's not producing for you. You want a sour Jimmy Butler in your locker room bringing down the vibe of everybody. I know. It's sad to say. Well, then that player wins because they pout and they get what they want. But. But is that what you want as an owner? How would you handle it then? Because I would be like, then, then go, go. You know what? Everything you're saying and hope that karma gets that. Dude, I don't disagree with you. I know. So what? I just think it's supposed to do. It sucks. Because what you're saying is if you're a big enough star, pout and get what you want and then just. I agree. You're saying if you're. I look at it as. I'm hoping the other owners see the attitude and the type of character this person has. Cause what do you think that guy's gonna change all of a sudden? Cause he's some. No, because eventually he's going to get to another place and pout again. And then pout again. That's just the way someone is at that point. I'm not being a. So they're basically advertising. Like, hey, I'm. I'm a problem person. I'm problematic. I'm really. They're holding up something difficult. I'm not being a sour 49ers fan, but I have said to you guys, what did I say? All last year, I said, yo, I love Debo, but it seems like he's. His vibes are. Are off. I said, all last year, I said, debo doesn't have that smile. He's not. But then you threw him a pass on our super bowl stage. Yeah, but you know what? We're downplay. I was the reason. I was like, you know what? I'm done with this guy. There's a reason that we, Covino and Rich have some longevity. It's not because we're the greatest broadcasters. I like to think that. I like to think that, hey, we're entertaining. Right. But we're easy to work with. I think that's very undermined and downplayed in life and in sports. You know, these guys, there's so many players that were great, but they were difficult. Terrell Owens comes to mind. He could have still played. He just was a headache. After a while, people stopped wanting to work with you. I know people my life that are super talented, but guess what? They're not working and they're not finding jobs. You know why? Difficult. So as an owner, you've had enough of this guy, right? This guy doesn't. I've had enough. This guy doesn't make or break your organization. Guess what? The Bengals go on with or without this dude. Right? And. And he's advertising, he's difficult. So, yes, someone else will pick him up, but he's going to be difficult somewhere else. What if guaranteed, But Kovina, what if a player does it respectfully? Like, we don't know how Hendrickson is handling this in Cincinnati. Maybe he went to the owner and the general manager in a respectful way and said, yeah, then that's different. Yeah, that is different. But he's not going through the media and he's not pouting and he's not saying negative things. But still, I don't want to play here. You're never going to get the production out of that dude that you're paying him for. Like I said, I hate to bring it back to relationships. If there's a woman in your life and I've been there, I've been through divorce and everything else, and she's like, I don't want to be here anymore. You're never going to get that production out of her if she doesn't want to be in this relationship. That's not. It's not a mutual respect at that point. You know, if you know a player on your team or an employee of your company is out, the minute their contract or agreement is up, they got to be in it mentally. Then you're just sort of biding time. Like, you know, that's why a lot of times contracts, they'll open up early and be like, yeah, you know what? We'll buy you out or get out of here. Because you're right. It's, you know, like your senior year, how towards the end, you sort of give up. That's. That's the mindset, too, when a contract's coming to an end and you're like, yeah, I know. That's why it's more than money, man. Because these players in anything that you're involved in. But these players particularly have to be drinking the Kool Aid of whatever that team is. It's like. It's like, you know who's done a great job of that? Baker Mayfield. I don't know. He comes to mind immediately because whatever team he's on and what we've seen him on four teams, you didn't see him drinking the Kool Aid of these teams making the best of that situation. Like, that's what they have to do. But it's so money driven that it no longer becomes about the team, it becomes about the money. But that's the problem. So you want these players to really buy into that organization. This is a tricky one. And if they're not, beat it. And this is where we get your feedback. Next. 87799 on Fox. Debo, DK, Trey, Jimmy Butler, NBA. When players, the word demand is strong, but when they demand a trade or ask the team, sometimes it's time to move on. Rich. Like Danny G. Insinuated. That's fair. Sometimes it's time. Shohei Otani, it was time for him to move on. He outgrew that city. It was his time. He, you know, filled out his time there. Other times, people are pounding until they get their way. If someone requests a trade. Yeah, there's different ways, too. It could be a veteran. That's like, yo, I'm not even sniffing, like, how Damian Lillard did it. Yeah, Damian Lillard did everything he could, right? That. Yeah, that's fair. We're not criticizing that type of situation, Danny. There are veterans that have been stars that are like, listen, with the teams I've stayed loyal to, I'm not sniffing the postseason. I would request a trade because I just want a chance to win, dude. It could be something else that we often forget to factor in. Like, hey, man, my family's not happy out here, and it's going to tear my marriage apart. These are real things that we never factor in. Yeah, it could be. It could be a player that played his whole career on the west coast, got sent to the east, and he's like, yeah, I'm not vibing. My family is. My wife's just not happy. Everyone's not happy. And you know what? That could play a role. And we'll take your feedback next. How do you think it should be handled in the NFL, in the NBA, in any sport for that matter, where someone says, yeah, yeah, I said one out, but they're still under contract. Do you. Because what happens always to Danny, you're seeing it with the Niners. You've seen with players. The teams that trade the stars don't really get the proper. But, Rich, what we're seeing the proper back end of the trade. Slippery slope. When this beca. I don't know if we could backtrack to find when this really started, you know, but when this started to be a thing, it was problematic because you're like, well, wait, they're under contract, so they pout, they get their way. This is the problem because you're like, oh, why is this happening now? It's because been. We've. They've been given in. It's become a thing. It's become the norm. No one's honoring their contracts. I don't know your thoughts. Where did this begin? Let's start with Ryan in. Milly Walke on line one. Ryan Cavino and Rich. What's up, buddy? Hey, how are you guys? What's up, brother? Hey, I'm. I was just thinking back to, like, whiners and where it started, I. I'm pretty sure, but not certain. I'm a big James Harden fan, but I think when James Harden was with the Sixers and wanted out, that might. Might have been a starting point with the whining, yo, dude, honestly, this is why I love talk radio. It's like we're chopping it up at the barbershop, and I got these thoughts, and sometimes I can't pinpoint them, but we're having a collective conversation, and you just read my mind, dude. I think that's the one. Harden was one of the guys where he was like, like, man, that's kind of wild what these guys are doing. And then it becomes a thought of, are you on the player side or the owner side? Because it's kind of cool that they're pushing back and sticking it to the man, but we had never seen that. But then it becomes a normal thing, and that's why we're dealing with it today. That's rough. I mean, listen, I know our buddy Trevor and Waco wants to chime in. That's a great one, man. On this side of, like, if you put this in perspective of small business, like, let's say. Let's say you own a bakery, and one of your employees is like, yeah, I want to get out of here. I want to work for the other bakery. Like, there comes a point where you're like, well, then I don't want your complaining ass here. Then go. Trevor, your thoughts, buddy? Yeah. How's it going? Guys, first off, I want to say great job on the show. I've been listening for quite some time, and you guys do awesome. And it's interesting. Thanks, man. That we're in this topic of discussion and I get. When I call in, the co host answers the phone. So I think that type of selfless leadership and that type of selfless behavior in a team is. It's a pretty, pretty interesting piece. Let's explain. Danny G. Stepped out. Yeah, Danny G. Stepped out. So Rich answered the call selflessly. I ran to get my phone charger and I told Rich, rich, watch the phone for two minutes. So you told Trevor. We told Trevor you had to go to the bathroom. Trevor, what's your thoughts on the small business side of this, man? If you're a small business owner, do you want this disgruntled guy on your team? I'm starting, you know, I'm starting a small business and I'll keep it short. But ultimately, something I learned a long time ago is a couple things with these athletes that are complaining. If you're constantly complaining and no one else around you is about the same issues, then the problem is probably in the mirror, first thing. Secondly, if you are complaining, I always tell my team members, hey, if you have a problem, there's no issue with. I don't have an issue with you trying to make this operation better, but bring a solution. Right? Always bring a solution to the problem. And I think those two things are key. You want to hear feedback from your employees because sometimes that can improve efficiency. Yeah, but. Yeah, and that's all great advice and I appreciate the call, man, and thanks for the kind words. But as much as I want to say we'll beat it, then you also have to think about. What's that old expression? You got to keep your pin pan strong, Rich. The owner's got to stay strong here and like the Heat did stand their ground because if the player chooses to continue to go down that path. Right. They're just diminishing their own value, and eventually they're going to realize that. So it's counterproductive for them in the long run to continue being that way. Yeah. There's a something else Rich, too, really quick that came to mind because it happens a lot in our business. Philosophical differences. And you saw that with Kawhi Leonard in San Antonio. He had the quad injury. Wait a second. Was it Kawhi Leonard or hardened? That really rubbed me the wrong way? I think it may have been Kawhi. The first one that came to my mind was Kawhi, his team, he wanted his own doctors. And his. His representatives were causing a problem with the spurs medical team. And there was a big beef there, and that forced him out of San Antonio. Another, really one Danny G. And that's when we all began scratching our heads, and we started seeing a new way of players making demands. And if you really want to backtrack and get to the core of, well, why, it's because they're really well paid and they have the power to say, yeah, I don't need to do this. I already got millions of dollars. So that's really where the problem lies. You gave these guys so much money that they're like, I don't need you. I got. They're just as much in demand and in power of the situation, and, you know, it becomes a stickery, slippery slope. And you. You gotta ask yourself, am I on the side of the player or the team? Did you say it's stickery and slippery? I made that up. I like that stickery. You know, before we go to DB in a second, I just. I thought of other examples throughout life, not just sports. Those are some great. And that actually looks them up. To get out of a deal with Warner Brothers. Remember Prince? The artist formerly known as Prince. And he was a symbol. That was his. That was his workaround. No, I forgot him. Tell me about him. Yeah, you might have know this guy Prince. You might have heard of him. Yeah, I think I remember. I have one. I. Now, I guarantee you don't know Ernest Hemingway. This goes back a long time. Apparently, he wanted to get out of a publishing deal, so he wrote a stinker of a book. So the company would be like, hemingway doesn't have it anymore. Is that crazy? That's great. In the world of radio. Do you remember, of course. Famous on the East Coast, Opie and Anthony. The only way they could go to a better job offer in New York was if they got fired. So they fake the mayor's death in their city, knowing we're gonna get fired. Got the big job in New York City. Let's fake his death, Opie. Okay. Yeah, I heard he's back on radio. And Jeremy Piven. This is alleged, but remember, he faked. They say he may have faked mercury poisoning because he didn't want to be on a Broadway show he signed up for. And he apparently wasn't happy with it. So the whole week of the run of the show, they're like, oh, yeah, Piven's out with mercury poisoning. He had too much sushi here's here's where it's confusing, though. The fan. Right. Because you always want to have the side of the employee. Right. Screw the owner, these rich dudes signing checks. But as a fan, you're rooting for that team. Right. So it's always your. Your. As a fan, you're in the middle here. Exactly. Because you want to root for the small guy, but you also want to root for your team. Small guys messing up your team, like Debo. I get it. DB what's going on, my friend? Fellas, very rarely do I like it when people use real world and sports together. And this is one of those opportunities where I hate it the most. I just don't think it's. I just don't. I think it's apples to oranges, to grapefruits to bananas. I think it's so different because there's so many different angles to it. It's tough. Use the bakery thing. Yeah. If there's a bakery across the street that's paying you $5 more an hour, what are you gonna do? You know, like, gotta make your money. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You're gonna leave. So you think the athletes are taking advantage of the situation? Sometimes I actually think it works both ways in professional sports. I just. I don't think, like, it's an apples to apples when we talk about someone trying to support their family. That's true in a real life situation. So you're saying the local baker is not the same as Myles Garrett. Correct. Yes. Yes. You're saying Prince, the artist formerly, knows Prince is not the same as the guy working the hobby shots the donuts. Yes. George Michael famously had a dispute with Sony, you know, refused to promote and he ended up having to pay. Lost the lawsuit, you know, for. It happens. For the violation of his contract. Taylor Swift re recorded all her albums so that people would stop taking money from her. Sure, you guys touched on it, but for those that missed it, Bengals defensive end Trey Hendrickson has gotten permission from Cincinnati to seek a trade. He is entering the final year of his five year deal that he signed with the Bengals. Final year would be 2025. Led the NFL in sacks. Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Go Greatest of their era. And we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s. Peja 5. Dirk Ford. Peja is a little. Okay, okay. I'm madam. I left them off my list. But. But I still like my list. You won't believe who steph left off his list. That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. Yes, absolutely. Love it. Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters. When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you, there's a fear factor that's associated with it. Anytime you're wide open, like, you might as well just count that and get on back on defense. Listen to Goat G o T e greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line. We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do. Provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll. Listen to EnergyLine with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seal. And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth. From start to finish, this is really the first interview I've done in bed. We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much. Many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said we're finished, this is over. Not only is not going to work, you Gotta get rid of those guys. It's a disaster. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire, and many others. Yes, that was the real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Each week we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter and their plus one, their ride or Die as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey. Listen to My legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my Legacy. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to share my podcast with you. Math and stories from the frontiers of Marketing. This week I'm talking to the CEO of Moderna, Stephane Bonsell, about how he led his team through unprecedented times to create, test and distribute a COVID vaccine, all in less than a year. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're gonna celebrate someone's birthday. How about that? To make everyone feel a little better. Nice. But a quick phone call from Sean in Sacramento. Sean, make it snappy. What's up, man? Don't make it snappy. This guy always brings it. I like Sean. What's up, bud? What's up, man? Make it quick and I'll bring it to the same time, fellas. First of all, my brother from another mother, man. And second of all, can I just say, Danny G did y'all proud yesterday, man. He came on a hot seat with the Odd Couple, and it was a bigger robbery between Tank Davis and Roach over the weekend. They totally stole my man's win. I don't know what's going on with Alex Teicher, but that brings up a bigger point, man. Danny G pointed out that the big vanilla, Funny, Slim, whatever, his 38 nicknames are is calling everybody out about this little basketball. One shot take. Can we get some, you know, tournament action between you two? The Odd Couple and the Big Vanilla Funny and Plank show during the tournament. Let's see who got the sweetest jumper. Man, I'm trying to see it fel uncontested. Cavino's pretty good, but you get in his face, you'll block him every time. But it's been a minute since I've been shooting. Look, I love Big Vanilla Husky, Funny Poppy, the guy with a million nicknames. I love him. I think he's a great broadcaster. I'm not sure I have the energy for this dude, to be honest. So I gotta figure it out. If you want it, Sean, we're gonna have to have a shootout competition. Honestly. Yeah, if the demand is there, I'm down. I'll tell you this. I love his show, though. Big Vanilla Husky, Poppy, he. He said that he'll beat anyone at Fox Sports Radio on physical challenges. And I was like, if it's baseball related, I'm confident I'll beat anyone here. If it's basketball related, I don't know. We got a guy named Doug Gottlieb who played college basketball and is a coach. And then I said, if it's football, we got Lavar and Brady Quinn. I said, the only thing Vijay Vernon Husky will win is a selfie gym posedown, because the guy posts a lot of gym selfies. Honestly, I don't even know if he win against that. There might be a guy in the back I might put up against him. You know, spots right there. Spot. I think you'd win. In fact, Vijay would win nothing. That's hilarious of competing in broadcasting. But, hey, if it's got to happen, it's got to happen. I'm sorry. If it's mini golf or wiffle ball, I got my money on Kavino. There you go. And again, we're Kavino and Rich. Shout out to the Big Vanilla Funny. And shout out to the Odd Couple. Danny G. The hot seat was fun. Yeah, it was good time. I got to listen back. I love the Odd Couple. And I love you guys for hanging out with us, but look, it is time. Let's go. There's a search. Yeah. What we gonna do right here? Tell me, where's this party? Back into time. Throwing it back for a Thursday old school. When 50 hits at 50 after cnr give you the time capsule topic and we reminisce together. Yeah. Okay. So we love to reminisce on a Thursday Throw it back and get you involved. There was a movie that came out when we were kids. 1996. 1996. That's also when Swingers came out. I remember because I was. I was way into that movie. I was in college at the time. Not to date myself, but I remember watching this. It got 5% on rotten potatoes, but we all saw it. I'm talking about Kazaam. And the reason we bring up this terrible movie is because Today is Shaquille O'Neal's 53rd birthday. Love, Shaq, baby. Getting older. I can't believe I'm 53. Happy birthday. I'm still handsome and I'm still strong. And I'll still be vanilla funny in basketball. So I look at it this way. Vanilla ain't that funny. 53, a legend, but he had a stinker known as Kazaam. You know what? I'm sick and tired of you. You're fired. Get out. So when you think of the weakest movies most of us have seen, what comes to mind? Because I feel like Kazaam because of Shaq's popularity. So many people like, oh, Shaq's in the movie. I'll go check it out. Can I kick it off? Please do. Besides Kazaam, the weakest movies we've all seen. Again, we want your feedback at 877-99-FOX. No holds barred, dude. Hulk Hogan and Zeus. Tell me, Zeus Lister. Oh, that was such a great answer, dude. We'll take your feedback back. CNR on fsr. Hang tight. To be fair, we know how great Shaq is. We know the championships. We know his swag, his humor, his charisma, his shimmy, his endorsements. We know that Foosh Snickens, he's done it all. He's a generous guy with family, dude. But seriously, when you look it up, guys, he owns Krispy Kreme. He owns Krispy Kremes. He owns Auntie Anne's. 17 different Auntie Anne's big Chicken. Co founder, Papa John's. All over Atlanta. Five guys, 155 locations. And you know, that makes him a lot of money. Seriously, dude, like, he's like, $30 to eat there by yourself. He's involved in so many things. Forever 21. Hold on. That is 775 men. Yeah, he owns that many. Forever 21, he's involved with. He owns the rights to iconic names like Muhammad Ali, who you just mentioned. Rich, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe. O'Neal is the second largest individual shareholder in Authentic Brands Group, abg. Like, he's doing it all. So not only is he a businessman, he's a business man. So before we crap on his movie, you got to give your props. Well, we're always singing his praises. He's on our show once a week. Yes, that's true. Yeah, we're big Jack fans. Danny G. That probably is the biggest L he ever took. That weak ass movie for sure. And he said the reason why he did it at the time was before the payday. And they gave him $7 million to go do that. Well, you know what then, I guess, yeah, I can't blame him for that. It was an L for the viewers, but not for him. Not for him. I mentioned no holds barred to get it going. And we get to your phone calls next. I bring up no holds barred because we remember if you watched even casually the WWF when you were a kid, they hyped this up like it was gonna be the biggest movie that ever was because Vince McMahon produced it, if I'm not mistaken. The whole. The whole scene of Hogan in the trailer in slow motion, jumping on the hood of the car, that was such a flop. They even had Zeus, tiny Zeus Lister, if I remember correctly, headlined SummerSlam. They were trying to bring the characters into wrestling. And you pointed out before the weakest scene from that movie, when Hogan grabs the guy out of the car. Take a listen. What's that smell? The guy was now even. No holes. Bard scored higher than Kazam. 10% on rotten potatoes. 10%. 5 more than Shaq's movie. So now we go to you, Rich. Does one automatically come to mind for you? I have my favorite bad movie, but I want to give the phone calls a shot before I. Before I point out what I consider a family favorite in my household. But I know in the first one I told you in our pre show meeting, you think a listener will have that one? You know what, Danny? That's. That's mine. So. Oh, okay. We agree on it then. You and I, Danny, Chi and I have one of the same awful movies that our families both seem to watch a lot. Let's go to John in Illinois. What's the weakest movie we've all seen? What's up, John? Love your show. On the way home. Thanks. So sticking with the theme. So two of them. Them would be Airplane with Kareem and then Corral with Will. You know, Airplane was a good movie. That's not a. I don't think that's a bad movie. Cult classic. Yeah, that's. What was the second one. Anybody know I Don't even know Wilt. Wilt Chamberlain was in a movie? Yeah. What movie was that? I think that was the second Conan the Barbarian movie. You're probably right about that. Okay. The movie Airplane I happen to love son. Yeah. So I appreciate the phone call, though. Let's go. Next. Who do we got that trip in Vegas? What's up, buddy? Hey, Tripp. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. No problem. I got two ones. A spoof. But the other one is by far the worst movie ever made. One would be Dracula Dead and Loving. It was horrible. But this next movie is the worst movie ever made. Battlefield Earth with John Travolta. Battlefield Earth, not a good one. I don't know if it's his worst, though, because, you know, he was in a movie that Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit produced like a few years ago. Look it up. I never heard anything about it, so it had to be horrible. But thank you, Tripp. I appreciate it. Let's go to. Who's that John in Virginia Beach. John, what's up, buddy boy? John Rich. What other movies match that stink level? How you doing, man? Done. All right. A lot of hype in this movie, but I didn't see anything in it. The Blair Witch Project, you know, people loved it. And I listen, it's not going to go down as one of the worst ever. I agree with you. I thought it stunned. I personally loved it. Really? You loved it? I did not. I mean, love's a strong word. I liked it a lot. I think it's just going to go down as being like. That was the first that we had of those, like discovered cam quarter style movies. I think that's. I think that's why people remember it and like gravitate to it. But yeah, I don't know about the substance itself, just first of its kind. It had its place. I could see how it polarizing, though. I could see how you hated it. Let's go to Kyle, New York City. Hi. How you guys doing? What's up, buddy? Movies that stink that we all saw. Okay. Teen Wolf 2 is unwatchable. Yeah, that's what Jason Bateman in that one. Yeah, yeah, it's unwatchable. Okay. But I also wanted to say that you guys told me about a movie. The, the, the. The movie about. It's got Danny Trejo, the brother, bloody blood out. Thank you so much for telling me because like you said, it was awesome. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna watch this. And it was. It was awesome. I mean, and it's such a great cast. Oh, I mean, it was. It reminded me of Breaking Bad when they do that thing with. When they do all that, that stuff at the one time, all at the same time in the prisons. You know what I mean? Dude, I'm so glad you like that. The only criticism is it's so long. But it's the hardest Disney movie you'll ever see. Blood In, Blood out. Is it on Disney Plus? Yeah, it is. I think it is. Teen Wolf 2, by the way. Eight rotten potatoes. That's got to be Jason Bateman's worst because he's, you know, he's good. I'm going to throw a movie out there. That's not my answer, but I can't imagine. The rating on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm sorry. Potatoes is very good. Please look up the rating on this one. Do you remember Anthony Anderson did Kangaroo Jack? Of course I do remember. He was like on some safari or something, our boy. Jerry OConnell. Jerry OConnell. I'm telling him you said that. Jerry O'Connell. Anthony Anderson and a kangaroo. I watch it as a kid, but I remember, even as a kid remembering, like, gu. I don't think this is very good. It's still better than Kazam according to rotten tomatoes. 9% though. I mean, these are all great answers because these are terrible. All right, I have the answer that I think is going to be hard to beat. And I know this because Danny G and I, both, one of us living in New York, one of us living in California growing up, both watch this with our families a hell of a lot. And it's awful. Not E.T. mac and me. The broke E.T. the broke E.T. i watched Mac and Me was such a bad rip off. What's your guess? What's your guess on Rotten Potatoes? Oh, man. If Kazam was 5% and Teen Wolf 2 was what, 9 or whatever, what do you think this one is? Mac and Me? I'd be surprised if it's above 7%. Dude. On the head, maybe. People. Oh, serious? Yeah. What did I win? Seven percent. 1988, Mac and me. I don't know why. I think maybe our family acquired it on VHS or something where we'd be at my grandparents house. And I remember always thinking, like, I'm looking at my little brother and sister, like, we're gonna watch Mac and Me again. I guess so. It was so bad that it was almost good in a way. My aunt would say, rewind that part. And we'd be busting up laughing because the famous scene where the fake ET is dancing on the tabletops inside of McDonald's. Each part of that long scene, every time they go to the. The little alien guy, he's a different size, it's a different person in a different costume. It's so bad that you're right, it might be good. Do you guys all know about singing the Super Bowl? Paul Rudd, right? You guys all know. You guys all know about the Paul Rudd prank. It's one of my favorites. It's a running joke when he would go on Conan O'Brien Show. Every time Paul Rudd would go there to promote, promote a movie. Like, hey, Paul Rudd's here to promote, you know, 40 year old virgin. He would always play a clip from the movie, but it would always be the same clip from Mac and me. Where the kids going down the hill in the wheelchair and Mac's like, oh, that's honestly the extent of my knowledge of this movie other than I remember it coming out well. But there's a lot of like trashy horror movies too. You know, I'm looking up some movies, like I had answers written down and I'm surprised that they were ranked way higher than I thought. Like I wrote down like Amazon women on the moon, killer clowns from outer space. And surprisingly they're like 60% and above on Rotten Tomatoes. But I got one and I'm right on this one. I'm trying to think. All that trash, like HBO movies you'd watch as a kid. You guys remember ghoulies when they would come out of the toilet? Like they're like the weak ass gremlins. Like ghoulies. They're not critters, they're not gremlins. They're ghoulies. Ghoulies. 7%. So I think a lot of us probably saw that at one point. You definitely remember seeing that little monster out of the toilet when you were at Blockbuster, right? Like you definitely walked past it. 7%. I got two. And the phones are hot. So we're going to go to everyone, but I got two. While Danny G. Gets the next round. I want to see if anyone could beat Kazam though. 5%. No one's beat it yet. Kind of hard to beat. I got two. Look up. I remember watching this movie in high school at the theater with my friends and we were even teenagers and we acknowledged this is the worst movie we've seen. Cuba Gooding Jr. Played a mute and he went on an adventure with Paul Hogan. It was called Lightning Jack. Do you remember Lightning Jack? Of course. So bad Lightning Jack 94. Yeah, I remember being like junior high dude. You're right on. You know What? It got 6%. Honestly, it's not as easy as you think to think of movies this bad. Yeah. Because the ones other ones that I thought were terrible actually score pretty decent. Lightning Jack. I don't want to give away what I think might beat Kazam, but I have to only because widely considered over the last 50 years, every time worst Josh in Ohio wanted. You know, let's say that one. Let's go to Josh in Ohio Online 1. I'll give it to him. But I don't think it was the worst movie of all time. But Josh, what do you got, man? I mean, it was kind of a heartbreaker because we're all the same age. We all wanted to, let's just be honest, wanted to see the girls from Bayside naked. And we all rushed out to see Jessie Spano and Showgirls and. And that movie was so bad it took away from Jesse being hot. Hold on. I hope Rich's dad isn't watching because isn't he surprisingly a huge fan of this movie? My dad is like, oh, I thought it was a good movie. My dad, I gotta be honest, I love it. I think my dad just likes boobs. But you know what? Showgirls, it's, it's there, but it's not. It's 23%. But you're right. I mean, everybody knows it wasn't a good movie. Gosh, that was critically acclaimed as the worst movie of all time. That wasn't my answer. My answer. I'll give you mine. I thought, I think this might be the one. I never hated it, but when we were kids, even our parents and your neighbors would joke about how bad this movie was. I know where you're going. And if you grew up in la, shout out to Rick D's Howard the Duck. Howard the Duck. Wait a second. Did Disco Duck have anything to do with that movie? I think it did, right? I don't think so. I don't think they're just two terrible duck related things. Disco ducks that are featured. No, that's quack tastic. Quack, quack, quack, quack. If those are related, I didn't know that came out in 86. Did Disco Duck come out in the 80s? I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong. They both suck. I agree with you, Rich. Howard the Duck, 13%. But where Rich is right on this is that it's synonymous with like one of the worst flops of the 80s. Leah Thompson was in it. One of the worst movies. When you have this conversation, this movie always comes up. Can I heard the duck. Can I give you one more? I don't know if it was so bad, but I know box office wise. I remember when we were kids, people talking about how this movie lost millions because it cost so much to make, yet made no money. Can you look up Waterworld? Oh, well, this. No, no. There's no way that Rotten Tomatoes has Waterworld as something low. No way. Because it's gonna be low. Yeah, but it was criticized for losing money, not for sucking. And they. And they do have the Waterworld show at Universal, which, by the way, is still fantastic. It's so probably favorite thing at univers. One of our good show. One of our good pals, Mike is one of the stunt guys in that show. What a world. 1995, 45% on the tomato meter. But again, was. Was highly criticized because of how much money it lost. Huh? Let's go back to the calls. At 877-99-19 on Fox is Shaquille O'Neal's birthday. His 53rd birthday. And we always hype on his W's because he's a hugely successful guy. Today we're clowning his L. And I'm sure he'd be okay with it. It's his birthday, and we're talking about Kazam. In reality, he won anyway because he made 7 million for it. And it might be the only thing Shaq's done where we could all be like, yeah, that was. That was not good. Because Shaq, let's be honest, he's a winner. But it is 5% on the tomato meter. Let's go. Rapid Fire John in Pennsylvania, Cavino and Rich. What's the worst movie we've all seen? The worst movie in the history of the world? Son of Kong. Son of Kong. I don't know if I've seen the 1933 movie because I used to like that. Of Kong. Yeah, the. Like the old black and white one or. Yeah. Not the original King Kong. The Son of Kong. Yeah. When I was. When I was little, I liked it. I probably wouldn't like it now. Yeah. But I doubt it. Got under 5%. 42%. Yeah. Thank you. John Ray in Northern Cali. Ray, Kavino and Richard. Guys, first of all, shout out Howard the Duck because I'm calling from Petaluma. And that's where this movie is filmed. By the way, for the record, for the stat boys at home, Disco Duck came out in 1977. Okay. And the other movie I was gonna mention was Adventures of Pluto Nash. Horrible. That was Eddie Murphy, Right? Was Eddie Murphy, Adventures of Pluto Nash. Am I wrong about why am I. Hold on. That is Eddie Murphy, Randy Quaid, and Rosario Dawson. And that got. Let me look it up for you real quick. Six percent, man. That was a good one, dude. But you know what? I never saw that one Pluto Nash. I don't think I did either. Yeah, I'm actually glad I never did. Demetrius from Tulsa. What's up? Demetrius, by the way. Hold on. Pause real quick. Shaq. Can't feel that bad if a great like Eddie Murphy is capable of making something so terrible. Eddie Murphy, arguably one of the most talented guys of our time. Funniest dude. He was in a movie that bad. That's crazy. Like, there's no redeeming parts of Pluto Nash. What do you got, Demetrius? Two of them. Joe versus the Volcano and Down Periscope with Kelsey Grammer. Bad movies, but I don't think they're under 10%. I bet. I think Joe versus Volcano is bad for, like, a Tom Hanks movie, Right? Like, bad for him. Him. I'm trying to find it, though. Yeah. It's not even on the potato meter. It has to be, right? What do you got? Perfect. All right, so I think it might get propped up a little bit above 10%, but I've got one with two big hitters in it. Carl Urban and Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Doom. Yeah, with like, the weird first person scene they try to do because they're trying to emulate the video game and everything. I. You know what? Not good. You know what? I'm trying to. I'm very curious. I'm sure you could categorize a Covino. When we're. When we're done taking the phone calls, there's got to be way where you could find out what the lowest rated movie is. Well, I looked it up, and I'm trying to find on this list ones that we've. All that we could say most people have seen. I don't know if this would qualify, but Return to the Blue Lagoon. The 1991 version. Oh, the 91. The 91 version. Zero percent. That zero percent. Tomato meter. How bad can a movie be? But I think what makes the Shaq 1 special, and I say that for real, is that a lot of people have seen it because really got Shaq. I love Shaq. Yeah, yeah. But you know, seriously about it, when you say Kazam, I automatically think Sinbad because of the Mandela effect. I Think of, wait, was he in a genie movie? Shazam. And people like, no, he wasn't. And then people big, nah, he was never in a genie movie. Wait, Sinbad was in a genie movie? Cove. Here's another one with 0% problem child from 1990. John Ritter. I love Problem Child. They ranked that number 17 on their worst 100. You know, I feel bad about that because we all love John Ritter and that movie never really translated to the movies, you know, the way he should have. Of course. But I'm saying of all those bad stinkers we talked about, I'm not saying Problem Child was good, but Problem Child deserves to be like 10, 20%, 0%. Yeah. And one more number 19 on their list, the sequel to Saturday Night Fever. Staying Alive. Zero. Big fat zero. I'm going to stick up for Problem Child and say, while not great, it was John Ritter with a kid that just caused mischief. It was such a cheesy 90s movie, certainly not deserving of zero. Then again, you're thinking on behalf of your old brains, you know, of a 10 year old. So we'll wrap it up with your phone calls. 87799 on Fox. The weakest movies that could match the stink level of a kazaam. Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s. Peja 5. Dirk Ford. Peja is elite. I'm mad him. I left him off my list, but I still like my list. You won't believe who Steph left off his list. That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. Absolutely love it. Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters. When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with anytime you're wide open, you might as well just count that and get back on defensive defense. Listen to Go G O T e Greatest of Their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about how hockey, believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the energy Line. We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of famers. And wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interest away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seal. And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth. From start to finish, this is really the first interview I've done in bed. We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much. Many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages. And try to get to the truth of what really happened, happened. And they said we're finished. This is over. Not only is not going to work, you gotta get rid of those guys. It's a disaster. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King iii and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilberger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Each week we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Billy Porter and their plus one, their ride or die as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey. Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy. Hey, this is Mel Reid, LPGA Tour winner and six time ladies European Tour winner and Kyra K. Dixon, NBC Sports reporter and host. You forgot to say warm. And Miss America, by the way. And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please with Mel and Kira. We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads and chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baliotis. So if you want to keep up with us, and here is yap, tune into our new podcast, listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kyra, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Right after the show, we go live at our bonus pod. In 13 minutes on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page, we're going over the greatest comebacks. There's an old heavyweight, former heavyweight champion looking to make a comeback. A few comebacks in the world of fighting. And we're going over some of our favorite comebacks. We'll talk about reasons you fell in love with sports. Was there a specific athlete or a moment? The reasons you fell in love with sports, the reason you're listening now. There had to be an athlete, a person or a moment that got you there. And the most famous name changes in sports because today's the anniversary of when Cassius Clay became Muhammad Ali. So that's on. Over. Promised live in 13 minutes on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Episode 83. Join us live. I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis and Russell Westbrook. Well, thought we were talking about movies that were bad. Yeah, I think there's a movie that a lot of people love that came out on this day. If you want to feel old on this day in 1998, the Big Lebowski. Oh, wow, 98. You're a bowling fan. Yeah, I love bowling. Big Lebowski, the Dude. Shout out to Norm Duke, 1998. So you're talking, holy crap, almost 30 years ago. Yeah. So the Nuggets beat the Kings 116 110. Russell Westbrook had 25 points. We talked about the specimen, that he is rich. We saw him up close and personal. I'm surprised that's not my kids favorite basketball team, because all they want is Nuggets. Yeah, Nuggets. Every kid, all they want. Nuggets. Nuggies. So the story goes, Altitude sports reporter Scott Hastings is interviewing Russell Westbrook. And they see a special fan in the stands. And if you missed it, perfect. Take a listen. You got one of your favorite friends from South Korea, Cam over there, he's jumping up and down, he's all excited for you. I appreciate you, brother. Thank you, man. I'm. And I got another jersey for you. I'll bring it over to you, man. Appreciate it. Everybody, what do you think about Russell Westbrook tonight? Crowd goes nuts. He picks his jersey off. The happiest man in the building here too. And he's on a mission. Westbrook taking off to jersey. He's heading to Kim, and the guy goes nuts. He's like, oh, my God. Oh my God. He starts freaking out. He's hugging a sweaty Russell Westbrook, you know, and. And by the way, Russell Westbrook ripped, like shredded. Yeah. It's easy to take off your jersey when you're ripped like that. You know, what a flex. If I was ripped like that, I'd be like, anyone want my shirt? Anyone, Anyone needs a shirt? And you know, good for him. But this dude, again, this fan traveled 6,000. I'm sorry, six. How much? Yeah, 6,000 miles from Tokyo and he's holding up signs like, I'm your biggest fan. He's wearing a Westbrook jersey. And just seeing how, how he was in this interaction seems so genuine to me. Not that I ever thought anything bad about Westbrook, but he won me over in this moment. So it made me think about other moments you've seen or heard that just made you think differently about that guy and made you like him in a different way. I have a take on this, and this is not to take any humanized. It's not to take anything away from Westbrook. Yeah, but there's so many times where I get it, and I truly do. Athletes are in the zone, but there are times where, I don't know, give me a baseball player that's sort of like a quiet dude. Maybe now, currently, because I was going to say Bryce Harper, but he's real. I think he's great with the fans. Like, I don't know, pick anybody. Your boy, McNeil. McNeil, Jeff McNeil. Fine. Anybody. When they're walking towards a dugout and all the fans like, you know, McDeel, McDeema, unless you're zoned in, it's game seven of the World Series. I'm shocked that there's not more acknowledgment or a pitcher leaves a game and he's headed towards the dugout and he pitched a gem. I'm not saying show up the other team, but there's just not enough, like, warm fan interactions. Yeah, like if there's. I love that KG clip that you brought up recently. The KG clip where the guy dances with his shirt off like 20 years ago and then comes back. KD returns to the T Wolves at the end and the guy does the same dancing. Katie gives a little point like, yo, my guy. I just. And I'm not saying, you know, as Camino, you know, we make that analogy where when like an Academy Award winning actor does a bit on a late night show and we're like, oh my God, they were great. And it's like, well, they should be great. They're in a Academy. Wow. Tom Cruise was really great with Fallon. He should be. It's Tom Cruise. I'm just saying, unless you're zoned in and it's the fourth quarter of game seven or it's the World Series or the super bowl, if you're walking towards the dugout or the sidelines or courtside and fans are like, well, Brooke Westbrook, I would assume, why wouldn't you be like, yeah, what's up, guys? Yeah, from the moment. But it is interesting. We don't see these things more often. That's why I love when the Yankees, we shouldn't be surprised. That's why, like the fact that it's a big deal that the Yankees do roll call and they shout out the player's name until they do a little Hess tip. That's true. The athletes are nothing without the fans. But it was nice to see. So this dude, honestly, what makes it great is this dude traveled 6,000 miles from Tokyo. That's a great moment. And he's hugging it. He's like, he is so clearly in awe of his hero, who is Russell Westbrook. So it was nice that Westbrook acknowledged him, gave him the jersey off his back, signed it and it was a story. And I am surprised we don't see more often. But any other stories come to mind. I think Russell Westbrook did the right thing and it makes me really think it's a cool moment. You know what the point is though, Rich? The point Is. And they discuss it on that broadcast is like, it's the power and influence that the athletes have on the fan. These little gestures mean so much. Like when you see that clip, and it's a famous one of Don Mattingly eating popcorn out of the little kids popcorn bucket. You don't think that little kid for the rest of his life was impacted from the clip, the moment, the memory. Don Mattingly's his hero. But I think we do such a crazy job of putting celebrity and athlete and all the people on such a pedestal that. But that's the power of an impact that they have no idea. But I think because we put so many people on a pedestal, we forget sometimes when they do very human things, we're like, oh, my goodness. I'll give you one. Yeah, I'll give you one. I saw. And you could say, well, she's royalty, but you know me, I hate the British family. The royal family. She's allergic to me. I'm allergic. I don't know why any American would care. When I say the royal family, Rich thinks, George, Brett and Dan Quinn. Yeah. I can't understand 1% how anyone cares about the royal family in the United States. Like, to me, Queen Rich thinks of Bo Jackson and Brett Saberhagen. But I saw. Was it Kate Middleton? Is that. Wait, who's the one that's not hated? Not Megan. Oh, Kate Middleton's liked, right? They like her there. Yeah. Like, she's walking in, like an air, like a public area with her guards. And, you know, the guys wear the funny hats and all that crap. And some kids like, princess. And she stops and, like, is like, hey, what's up, little guy? And I was like. And they made it seem like the biggest deal. I'm like, wow, a human stopped to say hi to a kid. That's what we should be doing. Right? But so isn't it refreshing to see Westbrook do it? That's all. You're right. We shouldn't be surprised. I like your point. Yeah, it's nice, but it shouldn't be a thing. We should see more of it if at the same time I applaud the moment. Came from Ireland to go see LeBron James, and he's like, I came from Ireland. Like, LeBron James should be like, my guy. Thank you. Let me give you a hug. All right, so let this be the start of maybe more human moments from athletes we admire. All right, well, with that said, have a great night and we'll see you tomorrow. Arrivederci, baby. We'll see you in the over promised land. Goodbye, goodbye. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glazer Podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out and you can learn more by following up with hate. Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called the Greatest of Their Era, and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s. Asia 5. Dirk Ford. Asia is a loot. You won't believe who Steph left off his list. That's so tough. That's why we tap these conversations. Yes, absolutely. Love it. Listen to Goat G O T E Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs, mock drafts to my top 101 free agents, we'll have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday, keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up everyone? Julie Swearbanks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us. Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this Is Working can help with that. Here's some advice from Jamie Dimon, the CEO of James JP Morgan Chase, on standing out from the leadership crowd. Develop your eq. A lot of people have plenty of brains, but EQ is do you trust me? Do I communicate well? Develop the team, develop the people, create a system of trust. And it works over time. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this is Working Leaders Share Strategies for Success. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.