The Best Of Covino & Rich

Summary

Episode Summary: The Best Of Covino & Rich

Title: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Host/Authors: Covino and Rich Davis
Release Date: January 8, 2025
Description: In this standout episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," hosts Covino and Rich Davis delve into a dynamic discussion covering the evolving landscape of professional wrestling, the ramifications of public figures falling from grace, and the excitement surrounding the NFL playoffs. Their candid conversations, punctuated with humor and insightful commentary, provide listeners with an engaging exploration of current sports narratives.

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Nostalgia and Evolution of Interests (00:22 - 02:37)

Covino and Rich kick off the episode by reminiscing about their shared childhood passions for video games and wrestling, drawing parallels to their personal growth over the years.

Covino: "Much like baseball cards, much like Don Mattingly, much like my starting lineups, much like Nintendo games, I sort of evolved a little bit when I discovered women." [00:37]

Rich Davis: "We were both guys into video games and wrestling... as we got older, I had friends that in college were still gaming all the time." [01:18]

Discussion Highlights:

• Transition from childhood hobbies to adult interests.
• The enduring appreciation for retro games and wrestling, despite a shift in engagement.
• Personal anecdotes about friends and family who remain avid fans.

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Hulk Hogan's Controversial Appearance (02:37 - 23:54)

A significant portion of the episode centers around Hulk Hogan's recent appearance on Monday Night Raw, streamed via Netflix as part of a $5 billion deal. The hosts analyze the mixed reactions from fans, particularly focusing on Hogan's tainted legacy due to past racial remarks and his political affiliations.

Rich Davis: "The intro to Raw... they did a montage that someone should win a major award... It made you realize how much time has passed since we were watching Rowdy Roddy Piper as little schoolboys till now." [05:47]

Covino: "It's absolutely where we're headed. We're there already. It's just a matter of how fast we wean out the other networks." [05:47]

Hogan's Reception:

• Audience Reaction: Significant booing from the crowd at Intuit Dome, Los Angeles.
• Reasons for Backlash:
  • Past racist remarks by Hogan.
  • Association with Donald Trump and the political connotations.
• Comparative Analysis: Unlike Triple H and The Undertaker, Hogan faces harsher public scrutiny.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis: "He ripped his shirt off at the RNC. Trumpamania brother. Donald Trump, MAGA, bro, what you gonna do?" [09:28]
• Covino: "We love second chances. Maybe not. But are there other people that come to mind when you think of... those who have fallen from grace?" [14:04]

Discussion Highlights:

• The complex legacy of Hulk Hogan and his influence on WWE.
• The intersection of sports entertainment and political discourse.
• The broader implications for WWE’s future with streaming platforms.

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Public Figures Falling from Grace (23:54 - 43:54)

Covino and Rich broaden their discussion to include other prominent figures who have experienced significant public backlash, compiling a list that reflects societal shifts in accountability and forgiveness.

List of Individuals Discussed:

1. O.J. Simpson: The epitome of public falls from grace.
2. Ellen DeGeneres: Transition from beloved TV host to being perceived as difficult.
3. Tiger Woods: Personal scandals juxtaposed with professional comebacks.
4. Louis C.K.: Artistic talent overshadowed by personal misconduct.
5. Michael Vick: Redemption story post-incarceration for dogfighting.
6. Trevor Bauer: Controversial MLB pitcher with legal and interpersonal issues.
7. Phil Mickelson: Decline in popularity due to controversial comments.
8. James Franco and Seth Rogen: Brief mentions of personal and professional struggles.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis: "Ellen DeGeneres... everyone hated Ellen, she does a stand-up special as her farewell, like, 'Sorry, everyone hates me.'" [14:50]
• Covino: "We love second chances. Maybe not. But are there other people that come to mind when you think of... those who have fallen from grace?" [14:04]
• Rich Davis: "If he helped a ton of people who had cancer, who cares if he cheated in a stupid bike race?" [16:30]

Discussion Highlights:

• The criteria for public forgiveness and the role of accountability.
• Gender differences in how misconduct is perceived and remembered.
• The impact of "cancel culture" on long-standing reputations.

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NFL Playoffs and Scheduling Conflicts (43:54 - 43:54)

The hosts transition to the upcoming NFL playoffs, discussing potential scheduling conflicts, particularly the rare scenario of multiple teams sharing a stadium advancing deep into the postseason.

Key Points:

• Super Bowl Scheduling: The potential for a championship Sunday clash if both the Rams and Chargers advance.
• Historical Precedents: Reference to Tom Brady’s Buccaneers breaking a long-standing Super Bowl hosting streak.
• Logistical Challenges: Field changes, stadium availability, and travel logistics.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis: "The only way this could happen... would require a hell of a lot of primo teams to be eliminated. So it's unlikely." [39:25]
• Covino: "It takes time and forgiveness. So it was a shock to see that Hulkster is that guy now." [28:37]

Discussion Highlights:

• Optimism tempered with realism about improbable playoff outcomes.
• Speculation on future scheduling innovations to accommodate unique playoff situations.
• Comparisons to historical NFL events and their outcomes.

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Interactive Segments and Light-Hearted Banter (43:54 - 61:49)

The latter part of the episode features interactive segments, including an NFL trivia game hosted by a fictional Patrick Mahomes, and discussions on everyday life amidst the sports frenzy.

Key Elements:

• Showtime Mahomes NFL Trivia: A playful quiz segment where listeners and participants engage in sports trivia, adding an entertaining layer to the episode.

  Example:

  • Dan Byer: "But who is the first NFL player to declare I'm going to Disney World in a TV commercial after winning the Super Bowl?" [50:12]
  • Answer: Dan Byer correctly identifies Phil Sims as the first player.

• Daily Life Tips:

  • Days of Chill: Encouraging listeners to balance their busy schedules with family time and personal chores before the intense playoff week.

    Rich Davis: "Finish taking down the Christmas stuff, maybe put up some Valentine's Day stuff with the wife and kids. Starting Thursday, days of chill." [30:14]

• Humorous Interactions: Light-hearted exchanges about sports memorabilia, favorite players, and hypothetical scenarios, fostering a relatable and engaging atmosphere.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis: "You just have to say what am I doing? Maybe a free throw." [59:52]
• Covino: "If you're one of those people, then, yeah. The answer is simple. You go for the $50,000 layup." [58:24]

Discussion Highlights:

• The blend of serious sports analysis with playful content to maintain listener engagement.
• The importance of community and interaction in sports broadcasting.
• Humorous takes on sports culture and fandom.

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Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes (61:49 - End)

In the final moments, Covino and Rich recap the episode's highlights, tease upcoming content, and reinforce their connection with the audience.

Key Points:

• Upcoming Content: Promoting mid-week major updates every Wednesday and encouraging listeners to stay tuned for more sports insights.
• Community Engagement: Thanking listeners, acknowledging regular contributors, and encouraging audience participation.
• Final Banter: Continuing the episode's light-hearted tone with humorous hypothetical questions and reflections on sports moments.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis: "If you make it to on-air, that's what you already won. I chose you, so you've won." [54:05]
• Covino: "It's called balance." [33:37]

Discussion Highlights:

• Building anticipation for future episodes.
• Emphasizing the show's role in the daily lives of sports enthusiasts.
• Maintaining an open and inclusive atmosphere for listener feedback and participation.

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Key Takeaways

• Legacy and Accountability: The episode underscores the complex relationship between public figures' achievements and their personal misconduct, highlighting evolving societal standards.
• Sports and Media Evolution: Covino and Rich discuss the shift from traditional broadcasting to streaming platforms, using WWE's Netflix deal as a case study.
• Community and Engagement: Through interactive segments and relatable discussions, the hosts reinforce the importance of community in sports fandom.
• Balance in Life: Amidst the excitement of sports, the hosts advocate for maintaining personal balance and nurturing family relationships.

This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" offers a comprehensive and engaging exploration of current sports narratives, blending nostalgic reflections with critical analyses of public figures and evolving media landscapes.

Transcript

[Rich Davis]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Best of Cavino and Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Dan Byer]

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[Covino]

[e-mail] or stream us live every day.

[Dan Byer]

On the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

[Covino]

Hulk Hogan.

[Rich Davis]

Oh dude, last night, I mean you, you, you, you led with the hoaxer. I think you're just gonna lead with hey, did you watch Monday Night Raw last night? Cause they were. I thought it was fantastic. I am a casual wrestling fan.

[Covino]

Same grew up with it. But much like baseball cards, much like Don Mattingly, much like my starting lineups, much like Nintendo games, I sort of evolved a little bit when I discovered women.

[Rich Davis]

You said hello poster from Spencer's Gifts. Goodbye Bo Jackson poster.

[Covino]

There you go. It was a certain time. So in other words, I hold those memories fondly near and dear. I don't deny that I loved wrestling and that I loved Nintendo. I just wasn't one of those dudes that carried on with the love of it.

[Rich Davis]

And it's interesting because you and I, for as all the differences we have, we have similarities. And one of those is we were both guys into video games and wrestling.

[Covino]

And baseball cards especially, right?

[Rich Davis]

But as we got older, I had friends that in college were still gaming all the time and I'm like, yeah.

[Covino]

I just don't got time for that same. I still have friends that game and we used to game together when we were kids and they're like, you just don't have gamers. DNA, dude. And I'm like, I guess not. Perhaps I either that or I discovered women. I don't know what happened.

[Rich Davis]

And you have family members that like collect championship belts and stuff that go to every SummerSlam and Royal Rumble and WrestleMania.

[Covino]

My brother in law Dan collects wrestling figures and dolls and belts and is obsessed with it. And I have other friends still obsessed.

[Rich Davis]

With that really turns your sister on.

[Covino]

I have friends that are still dropping big legs on the weekend and I'm like yo dude. But that's okay, we're not judging because again, like I said, we still hold those things near and dear. We're still baseball fans. I still could appreciate some retro video games. I still have love and interest even in new ones. Yo, I happen to be in Ford GTAs. My stupid voice is in a few Grand Theft Autos, so I still have a love for those things. The same way I still appreciate wrestling even though I'm not into it the way we were when we were kids.

[Rich Davis]

But I. I think yesterday, being that it was the first time Raw was on Netflix, a $5 billion deal, I was like, you know what? I got to see what's doing. I think a lot of people, the casual wrestling fan that sort of knows what's going on, but they don't watch like they did as a kid. Definitely at least turned it on for a second last night. Y'all. Big Ryan, you watched, right?

[Ryan]

Not only do I watch, when I was younger, I actually used to do it.

[Rich Davis]

You were a wrestler?

[Covino]

Yes, I was like WWE wrestler. Like a Kurt angle wrestler.

[Ryan]

Professional wrestling. I wrestled here in la.

[Covino]

I didn't know that.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Hold on. Did you know this?

[Rich Davis]

You didn't know this? I mean, it's the junkyard dog. I was not the junkyard dog.

[Covino]

Junkyard Ryan. I mean, I could see it. You're. You're a giant. For people that don't know. How tall are you, Ryan? Six. Let me guess. I'm six.

[Ryan]

Four, six, five.

[Covino]

Dang, dude. Six, five, two, 75.

[Rich Davis]

Sure, that's around there. After the holidays, you're giving him some love. 305. No, no, we near that.

[Covino]

Ryan's.

[Rich Davis]

You see Ryan, when there's food in the kitchen, he. He pops up.

[Covino]

Yo, if you ate 305, I wouldn't mean it in like you're an overweight kind of guy. You're just a big ass dude.

[Danny G]

For two weeks now, he's been eating salads for breakfast. So He's. He's like 285.

[Covino]

Hey, Ryan, who was your guy? Who was your dude that really got you into it though, when you were a kid?

[Ryan]

When I first started watching, obviously it was Hulk Hogan, but like, I kind of like, matured, so to speak. And my favorite guy of all time is Brett the Hitman Hart. Love that dude.

[Covino]

I love all those dudes.

[Rich Davis]

Excellence of execution. Yes.

[Covino]

I'm not one of those hardcore representation matters guys, because I just watched and liked it, enjoyed it. But I did feel that it did matter in the WWF growing up because I feel like everyone was represented. So anybody that looked like me, I sort of gravitated toward. And even though I. I'm not. What was Ricky the Dragon? What. What was his ethnicity? I know he was eight.

[Rich Davis]

When I first met Kavino, I thought he was Ricky the Dragon sneak.

[Covino]

I still identified with him, but I loved me some Tito Santana. Tito Santa Ara. Just as. As a result. Because if you go back, take it back on a Tuesday, they really le. Leaned into the stereotypes Hardcore. They really did, you think?

[Rich Davis]

I mean, Tatanka, Nikolai Volkov. I mean, please. Um, so Iron Chic. I think we were all wrestling fans as kids, right? So you turn on Raw last night. You just had a curiosity, like, $5 billion deal with Netflix. And then you know what? It got me thinking immediately. The Christmas Day games with the NFL. Monday Night Raw. The countdown's on, dudes. We are saying goodbye to television within. Within the next. Whenever these contracts run out. If you think there's going to be networks that easily hold on to these NFL deals, you're out of your mind. They might be on Peacock instead of NBC. It might be on some other app. But streaming is clearly the future. I mean, that's obvious. But after watching Raw last night, your. Everything that kept you possibly having cable tv, I mean, think of slowly going away.

[Covino]

Biggest events last year. Tyson, Jake, Paul. As much of a clown show as it was, as much of a circus as it was. It was a huge event. It was on Netflix. So it's absolutely where we're headed. We're there already. It's just a matter of how fast we wean out the other networks.

[Rich Davis]

So the intro to Raw, if you watched, I thought was fantastic. They did a montage that someone should win a major award. They did a montage where it's like, Macho Man, Bruno, San Martino, Roman Reigns, Cody Rhodes, Andre the Giant.

[Covino]

Like, you're getting Ryan all excited.

[Rich Davis]

They were bouncing from generation to generation Heartbreak Kid, Diesel, like, they were. Whoever did this montage, like, appealed to my emotions. I was getting a little emotional. My wife's like, isn't this beautiful? Like, it is beautiful. It made you realize how much time has passed since we were watching Rowdy Roddy Piper as little schoolboys till now.

[Covino]

In your defense, though, any montage with the right music could get you emotional. I've sat at weddings of people I didn't even care about or really know, and I've watched her slideshow. With the right music, it could get you.

[Rich Davis]

You're crying, but I don't know you. So I'm watching. I'm watching Raw last night, like many people, and Triple H starts the show. Then of course, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, who's electrifying. If you smell what the Rock is cooking, he does his whole thing. It's amazing. I'm watching the undertaker comes out on a motorcycle. John Cena's there.

[Covino]

You know how many amazing characters there are that we identify with?

[Rich Davis]

So many of them died over the years, right? You see John Cena, you Can't see me saying he's, you know, he's on the farewell tour. The crowds.

[Covino]

That was John Cena.

[Rich Davis]

The crowd is doing a. I thought.

[Covino]

It was Ernest P. Warl on steroids.

[Rich Davis]

He does look like Ernest.

[Covino]

Hey, Vern.

[Rich Davis]

John Cena. The crowd's going crazy. Thank you, John. Danny G. You said you're. You're. The boys had it on the background at your house. So it. Everyone, I feel like, was somewhat watching a little bit, right?

[Danny G]

Yeah, it was funny because our 20 year old, he told his mom, he was like, you see the grown men in the crowd going crazy, screaming. And literally two minutes later he was like, mom.

[Rich Davis]

Mom.

[Danny G]

CM Punk. CM Punk. So he's doing the same exact thing.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, it's. It's theatrics, it's sports entertainment. It's as my mom would always say as a kid. Richie, I know why people love it. It's like a soap opera for boys. I'm like, that's exact. I mean, we knew that since the 80s, right?

[Covino]

And it was a special night because it was the debut of Monday night ra. So stars came out, big deal. New era, new beginning, a new home.

[Rich Davis]

And all that build up for the biggest observation that everyone made. And the observation was simple. You saw the legends coming out and you were waiting because you knew that he was going to be there. Maybe about two hours into Raw, the stadium, the arena into it, it's out here in Los Angeles. The music hits Hulkamania brother. And the crowd's booing. Boo.

[Covino]

Boo.

[Rich Davis]

Fu. Hogan.

[Covino]

Thunder Lips sucks.

[Rich Davis]

And it was, I mean, I'd say a little shocking. Yeah, shocking. I mean, it's Hulk Hogan, the guy that bill wrestling. Listen, there's a section of people that never forgave the Hulkster for some of the racial things he said in the past.

[Covino]

I think some people. For as many people that haven't forgiven, there's a lot of people that forgot.

[Rich Davis]

And there's also the layer that this event is at the Intuit Dome in Los Angeles. Where have you seen Hulk Hogan over the last year of your life? Trumpamania brother. Donald Trump, maga, bro, what you gonna do? Hogan is a. He ripped his shirt off at the rnc.

[Covino]

I was gonna say pitching his new.

[Rich Davis]

Beer, which was the lamest part of his promo. I'm here at Real American Beer, brother.

[Covino]

Have you tried it? I have not. I think we need to preface this conversation with everybody was reeled into the WWE for the most part, courtesy of Hulk Hogan. It wouldn't be what it is without Him. Ryan, you said he was one of your favorites.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but now he can go straight to hell.

[Covino]

All right, hold that.

[Rich Davis]

Hold that.

[Covino]

But, Rich, we also need to preface it that when I think of Rich, I think of three people. Rich's three heroes are Joe Montana, Alf, and Hulk Hogan.

[Rich Davis]

That. That was my childhood.

[Covino]

Yeah. So we also need to make that clear. And that's why Rich was shocked. How could his hero be booed in this way? Of course, we remember the racist things he said. Was that the reason? So we have a theory. Rich has a theory. We have a reason.

[Rich Davis]

I think it's a. It's a combination of a few things. One being there's a lot of people. And, Ryan, you were. You were. We were talking about this off the air. Hogan was your guy. And the minute he said some racial stuff, you, as a man of color, were like, f that guy. Right?

[Ryan]

I was out.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I mean, he got me into wrestling. He got me hooked as a kid.

[Covino]

And you thank him for that.

[Ryan]

I thank him for that. But as soon as I saw that video of him saying those words, I'm like, dude, like, really, man? Why would you say something like that?

[Covino]

Yeah, it's definitely going to change the way you think about the guy. You're like, wow, man, that sucks. And that's unfortunate because you don't want to feel that way.

[Rich Davis]

Right.

[Covino]

You want to love the guy because you did for all those years. So was that the reason?

[Rich Davis]

And then other people, you know, were quick to point out, you know, they trotted out Hulk Hogan in Southern California two months after an election where he's ripping his shirt off with Donald Trump. Trumpamania, Brother, you're putting one of Donald Trump's number one supporters in liberal Southern California. But then someone was quick to point out, you know who else supports Donald Trump? Triple H, the Undertaker. They did not get booed. So it makes you wonder, is the perception of Hogan completely changed to the point where I said to Cavino earlier, I said, and he should have came out as Hollywood Hogan. The booze at least would have matched. He's got to go back to the NWO days. At least. At least the booze will make sense.

[Covino]

Honestly, he should invest in some just for men and dye that beard black again. Dark brown black. And lean into that.

[Ryan]

Well, back to taker and Triple H. They were never caught saying the N word. That's the. That's the sticking point.

[Rich Davis]

Again, you're right. That is the.

[Covino]

So it's less politically charged and probably more racially charged. People didn't Forget. Even though I still believe so many people did forget. You know, I think people remember the sex tape, right? Like, he's went through a lot, but it still was shocking to see. And that really was the headline on a big night for the wwe. One of the bigger stories and takeaways from the night is that, are there no more Hulkamaniacs? There's. There's a lack of Hulkamaniacs. There's. There's not as many as there used to be. And he got booed at this big event, so it makes me think he.

[Rich Davis]

Came out with Jimmy the Mouth of the South Hart. And I saw a funny meme where it was Hogan and Jimmy Hart, and it's like, man, Jimmy, I guess I didn't like you, brother.

[Covino]

Yeah, it's kind of sad, to be.

[Rich Davis]

Honest, but it was not you. Jimmy was the Hulkster. What happened?

[Covino]

Look, and we also have to be fair. Rich and I have met him plenty of times, and he was always a great guest and always a great guy on our show. But it seems like the public's opinion has changed. And based on that, what's your theory? Racially charged? Politically charged? A mixture of both. You hate his beer. You know, what's your reason? What do you think the theory is? And are there other people that have fallen from grace who comes to mind? Because he's in that. Well, he'll never be in that OJ Category, because OJ Is probably the king of this conversation.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, he didn't murder anyone, but.

[Covino]

He did say some bad things. I'm saying he's in the conversation, based on last night, of people that have fallen from grace. Can he turn it around? Can things change? Yeah, possibly. Why not? Right?

[Rich Davis]

I don't know.

[Covino]

We love second chances. Maybe not. But are there other people that come to mind when you think of. They were beloved. They were the face. They were great at what they did, and then, I don't know, the public turned their back on them for whatever reason.

[Rich Davis]

So who do you want to add to the list? 8. 7. 799 on Fox. Who do you add to the list we've made so far of Hulk Hogan and O.J. simpson? I'll. I'll add someone a little lighter. Ellen DeGeneres. Her story of being shunned because she was a lesbian. Everyone felt for her story. She got back on tv. Everyone loved Ellen. She's dancing, and her daytime talk show is bigger than anything. Then it comes out that she's, like, terribly mean and hard to work for. Allegedly.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And everyone hates Ellen, she does a stand up special as her farewell, like, sorry, everyone hates me.

[Covino]

Which I thought was pretty good. By the way, I saw a meme just yesterday saying that. That she looks like Nosferatu. She looks more like Nosferatu than the new Nosferatu.

[Rich Davis]

So, Ellen, oj, Hulk Hogan. Who do you add to the list of what happened?

[Covino]

I got one. And it's a bit polarizing because I feel like men could acknowledge that, yeah, he screwed up, but women really hate and hold on to their disdain of this guy for good reason. I'm not defending him. I just feel like there's a double standard here. Tiger woods, because I feel like we. There's a part of guys that not understand what he did, but still root for.

[Rich Davis]

I feel like, I feel it was like one too many.

[Covino]

No, no, no. Yeah, but we moved past it a little bit and we root for him. Don't tell me we haven't rooted for him and appreciated the moment he had with his son just recently during the hole in one. We rooted for his comeback.

[Rich Davis]

Right.

[Covino]

You're pulling for him a little bit.

[Rich Davis]

The Masters a couple years ago.

[Covino]

Anytime you show any sign of like, go get him, Tiger. Some woman will give you. She'll mean mug you side eye, you give you a dirty look. Because women have not forgotten.

[Danny G]

Rich, I know you're not as mad at him as the rest of the world, but Lance Armstrong.

[Rich Davis]

My theory is on the list. My theory on Lance is that I get it. He's on this list 100% same as Tiger. But my take is. So listen, someone told me if I watch the documentary on him, I might feel differently. So keep in mind, I haven't watched much about him, but if he helped a ton of people who had cancer, who cares if he cheated in a stupid bike race?

[Danny G]

Did he though, did he pay for the drugs? Because a lot of the money went to awareness. I know, but that part rubs people the wrong.

[Rich Davis]

My overall sentiment is like, when you talk about what's more important.

[Covino]

Yeah, but he was a fraud and that upsets a lot of people.

[Rich Davis]

But if it was a fraud that raised money for people with cancer, isn't that still more important than a stupid bike race?

[Ryan]

I think people are ticked off because he sued people too and tried to, like, ruin people's lives.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, maybe he's a jerk. I agree. So, see, I don't know this part.

[Covino]

And he was adamant about, you know, not cheating.

[Rich Davis]

So I'll give you one more again.

[Covino]

Are we hating on these people? No, we're just, we're compiling a list here, and we're saying, unfortunately, for. For things that they did, you know, there's got to be accountability there on their part, too. Hulk Hogan is on this list.

[Rich Davis]

Short of murder. I'm a firm believer in second chances. Right. Unless you. Unless you kill someone. I'm a big believer in, you know.

[Danny G]

We take the fun out of everything.

[Rich Davis]

We're all human. We make mistakes. I'll give you one that I love this comic, and a lot of people are like, really? That guy? He's creepy. I love the comedy of Louis C.K. i think Louis C.K. here's where it gets sticky.

[Covino]

Here's where it gets sticky.

[Ryan]

I checked the words there, man, and.

[Covino]

I used the word sticky on purpose.

[Rich Davis]

I recently bought his Comedy Special for 10 bucks. I watched it. I love Louis C. K. You don't.

[Covino]

Even donate to charities, and you're buying that guy's comedy special. Here's the sticky part about that story.

[Rich Davis]

Stop saying sticky.

[Covino]

What if what he did was to someone you love and care about? You'd feel a little different about that, right?

[Rich Davis]

Of course.

[Covino]

I mean, could he have done worse? Absolutely.

[Rich Davis]

Didn't he just pants and do things you shouldn't do?

[Covino]

That's the story. Yeah.

[Ryan]

I mean, to be fair, he did ask for permission first.

[Covino]

Yes, allegedly. If you really want to be, you know, fair. His comedy's great. I think he's one of the funniest dudes.

[Rich Davis]

And I can separate it. So, you know, you're never gonna listen to a Michael Jackson or R. Kelly song again.

[Covino]

Dude, I'm able to separate the art from the guy I am. Right. But not everybody is. Not everybody should have.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. I mean, see, you know why I think I could separate the Hulkster, Meaning I look at Hulk Hogan and say, I love Hulk Hogan.

[Covino]

But Terry messed up.

[Rich Davis]

Terry might not be the best guy.

[Covino]

Yeah, he messed up.

[Rich Davis]

You know, if you look at it that way.

[Spot]

What's up, DB I also think just with the wrestling fans, and maybe this is. Is a little bit off, but there is the point of, like, all right, we're doing this again. Like, this is for the 19th.

[Rich Davis]

You know, Hogan always comes out for the big events, and I think it might be with the younger generation. Might be, like, enough already with the old guy.

[Spot]

Yeah, yeah. Come up with something new. Like, you can't go to the.

[Danny G]

Well, it is. I. DB I felt that way when I saw the crowd.

[Rich Davis]

Really?

[Covino]

You got that fight. Especially you were there with your teenage sons and everything. They're probably like, come on, man. Like, the Rock's there guy like, that's.

[Dan Byer]

As far back as they want.

[Rich Davis]

Their throwback is John Cena and the Rock, Hulk Hogan to them is like, who's grandpa with the flabby arms?

[Covino]

That's a good point.

[Danny G]

Exactly.

[Covino]

Because, you know, him having this Republican stance. I don't think that's it nowadays.

[Rich Davis]

Because guess what? A lot of wrestling fans are.

[Covino]

A lot of wrestling fans are Republican. And 50% of LA. It was in Los Angeles. You know, last I checked, 50% of LA was voting Republican. Yeah, right. So your thoughts on it? And who else are we forgetting or adding to this unfortunate list? And I say it respectfully and kindly because I do agree with you, Rich. You know, some names are worse than others and I do root for people to turn it around. Yeah, but, but, you know, it's sad to see people loved and then sort of hated in his way.

[Spot]

Well, I do think that Tiger woods has made a comeback and people are rooting for him more. I can see where you're coming from.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Spot]

Phil Mickelson is one who didn't realize he crossed a line in abandoning his fans in comments that he made. And then when he jumped to live golf like the Phil fanatics, now he's. He's nowhere to be seen because he's not on the PGA Tour anymore. Even when he plays in majors, he's not getting TV time when he does it. He's completely gone off the map. Not being booed, but just not nearly even close to being loved as he once was.

[Rich Davis]

No doubt.

[Ryan]

Hey, Michael Vick as well.

[Rich Davis]

You know what? Michael Vick, there are some people, great.

[Covino]

Example of turning it around.

[Rich Davis]

You know what? I feel like he's done a lot of good since. Since the, you know, terrible things he did with dogs and everything. But there are some people you could tell. And I, I hate to stereotype, but I feel like a lot of times you could tell a woman like, oh, Michael Vick. And she's like that son of a bitch. And the dogs, you know, women hold on to it harder.

[Covino]

For sure.

[Rich Davis]

Yo, Maniacs. This is Hulk Hogan, the greatest of all times. And I want to thank you guys for listening to Covino and Rich. So what you gonna do when Covinomania and Richomania run wild on you brothers? Everybody knows that you guys have been Hulkamaniacs. So after say your prayers and eat your vitamins, go ahead and get crazy and get naked. What. What is that about, man? What happened to Hulk Hogan?

[Covino]

I mean, it's not a bad plan. Let's get crazy getting naked in 2025.

[Rich Davis]

What happened to Hulk Hogan? Ricky, one of the production gurus here.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Just popped in the studio with a sweet new Dodgers hat on. And he goes, yo, I'm watching the news because of all the fires out here in la. And he's like the bottom third. It's scrolling. Hogan booed. It's like a news alert on, not just like social media. It was a big story that Hulk Hogan was booed practically out of Intuit Dome in Los Angeles yesterday.

[Covino]

Yeah, the people spoke and we all heard it last night on a big night. Who else are we adding to this list?

[Rich Davis]

The triple doozy. Why did Hulk Hogan get booed last night? Obvious answer. Number one, the racial stuff. The N word. Ryan, among many wrestling fans, agreed that that's the moment. They're like, yeah, F. Hogan, I'm done with him. Then there is the section of people in Southern California that don't care for President Trump. And you saw Hogan ripping his shirt off. Trumpamania. So that's that. And then Dan Byer brought up a great point. There's also a younger generation of wrestling fans that are like, enough. Like, we get it. Hogan made wrestling in the 80s. I mean, bring out Roman Reigns.

[Covino]

Although I agree, I think that's a great point. It's a little rude, right? I mean, just a little rude. Let the old guy have his moment. You know, he sort of made it happen.

[Rich Davis]

No, he did make the whole thing happen. I mean, without Hulk Hogan, there would be no wrestling.

[Covino]

But in fact, Hogan reminds you with the same sort of sentiment all the time, right?

[Rich Davis]

I will say watching last night. Watching last night did make me realize that no matter what generation. We talk about this with athletes, no matter what generation an athlete may have played in, they'd be a star. And you could say the same about musicians. Like, I don't care if they were in the, you know, 100 years ago, 50 years ago, or now. When you got talent, you got talent. Roman Reigns. I'm not, you know, I don't watch on the regular. When he comes out down the aisle, he's a bad man.

[Covino]

These things have a different level of sway, right? And microphone skills. And again, it's a different era. And we're comparing it to the old school antics of Hulk Hogan. I get it. It's not the same.

[Rich Davis]

Telling you to train and say your prayers and eat your vitamins. Meanwhile, you know, Roman Reigns is like, a cool dude.

[Covino]

So it was the debut of wwe Monday Night Raw on Netflix. He got booed. Who else have we added we added O.J. again. He's the, he's the king of people that have fallen from grace. Right. Ellen Lance Armstrong, Tiger Woods, Louis ck The Hulkster.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, James Franco.

[Covino]

James Franco.

[Rich Davis]

Seth Rogen's like, yeah, you're not my friend anymore.

[Covino]

You said Michael Vick. And again, we've also proven. And we root for people to turn things around. Right? No. Who's in the middle? No.

[Rich Davis]

Who's in the middle of a comeback now? Because I guess the allegations were never proven. Kevin Spacey's starting to get some. I wouldn't say love again, but Kevin Spacey is, I think, not in the bad graces of people.

[Covino]

Well, I think as we step back, we realize that there was a big cancel culture, right? Yeah. Some people got canceled for good reason. Some people, it was like, eh, it's not that bad. So there's more room to be forgiven.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go. Rapid fire, loaded lines. We love the feedback. Thank you.

[Covino]

Well, it's not only like, who are we adding to the list?

[Rich Davis]

Right.

[Covino]

It's more like, well, do you have a different thought or theory as to why he was booed?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Your Hogan theory. And who to add? We'll go to Steve. We'll start in Wisconsin. What's up, bro?

[Caller]

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

[Rich Davis]

No problem.

[Caller]

Enjoy your show each day. Big soccer fan. I'd say Brett Favre has not done themselves any favors lately with that.

[Rich Davis]

You know what, as a player, I remember being like, man, Brett Favre's, he's a hard nosed, great player. And then his behavior around women, the Mississippi thing. Brett Favre turned from like likable guy to a piece of trash. Facts.

[Covino]

I would say people's impression of him has definitely changed. Absolutely. Without question. I think there's a lot of people that love to forget too, though. That's why I was surprised about the Hulkster thing. My impression was a lot of people forget that he said some terrible things.

[Ryan]

I didn't forget.

[Covino]

Ryan did not forget. But I think that Favre does fall into that category where I don't know if it's the NFL or the public sort of wants you to forget even more.

[Rich Davis]

Gastono hates him. Right. Let's go to Trevor in Texas. What's up, Trev? Kavino, Rich.

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on, guys? Real quick? I got a name of a guy pitcher who never is never going to recover because they want him back. And all the accusations were considered not guilty. Was Trevor Bauer. He's killing it in Mexico.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, man. I do wonder, you know, there's so much speculation.

[Danny G]

But Trevor Bauer, because he was an unlikable teammate.

[Rich Davis]

He was unlikable to begin with, but right in the. In the. In the court of law. He has done nothing wrong up until this point. But I think the public sentiment. You would think a team would take a chance on him, Right?

[Covino]

He's a tough guy to deal with, clearly.

[Rich Davis]

Right. That's a good answer, though. Kelvin Indianapolis. What's up, man?

[Covino]

What up, Kelvin?

[Caller]

Hey, thank you. Y'all. The best radio show. If I ever do a movie, I'm in. The bad guy's gonna be the biggest. The big cabino.

[Covino]

Thank you. I like it.

[Rich Davis]

What's up, man?

[Caller]

That sounds intimidating. But anyway, I got three names I want to mention you real quick, and then you let me know if any of those are deserving to be on that wish list. Herschel Walker, Daryl Strawberry, and Tanya Harding.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, you know what? Tanya Harding's a good one.

[Covino]

I love Daryl Strawberry, man.

[Rich Davis]

Strawberry just did drugs. He was just not a bad guy. He just, you know, got caught up.

[Covino]

His past was a little tainted. He never mounted out to be what he could have been, but he still had a good career.

[Rich Davis]

Herschel Walker, that's more of a political thing. So it depends, right?

[Covino]

Yeah, it depends.

[Spot]

Yeah. I think that it's. Yeah. To that point as well. Who was the top of the top? You said it was O.J.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

And I don't think people are going to top O.J.

[Spot]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

Hogan and Ellen are like second tier. Hogan, Ellen and Louis.

[Spot]

C K. I think Bill Cosby.

[Rich Davis]

Dude, great answer. Dan Buyer. Damn. Buyer.

[Covino]

Yeah, it was one of those where.

[Spot]

I didn't know if I was in or out and missed it and didn't want to say it again, but.

[Rich Davis]

Damn, Buyer. Yo. Damn. By you say Cosby. I got to give props to Ricky again. Second shout out for editing guru Ricky production guy. He said, yo, you got to throw Kramer on that list. Seinfeld. Everyone loved Kramer. N word was his demise, too.

[Covino]

Yeah, it really was. And it was just an ugly moment because he sort of just lost his cool, you know, and he thought it was going to be funny in some weird way, and it wasn't.

[Spot]

I think he did his press conference in this courtyard out here. I think that's where, like, I was told that. Where they. Where he addressed it, but I think it may have been. Obviously not when he. Where he said it was in the comedy club.

[Danny G]

But were there hot yoga women walking by the cameras?

[Covino]

It takes time. It takes a lot of. That's why people were around yeah, exactly. It takes, I don't know, time and forgiveness. And you got to earn it too. You got to do certain some things to earn that forgiveness. So it was a shock to see that Hulkster is that guy now. And he should lean heel maybe. Maybe there's room for Hollywood Hogan.

[Rich Davis]

For real. Tony in Virginia. One last call and then we'll take the rest on the. On the flip. Tony, what's up, man?

[Caller]

Good day, fellas. Nobody's perception changed more than after the 10 second slap by Will Smith.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, that's a good one, dude. Will Smith. I mean, you're talking about Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Independence Day. Who didn't love Will Smith? And then the slap, you're like, yo.

[Covino]

Yeah, you remember to be on this list or in this conversation, you had to be really liked.

[Rich Davis]

There is someone in this room that. I was shocked how much they turned on Will, and that guy is Steve Covino. Not that you were ever a big fan, but after that, Kavito's like, f Will Smith.

[Covino]

Yeah. Oh, big time.

[Rich Davis]

Keep my wife's name out your mouth. Never forgave Will, huh?

[Covino]

No, I don't think I will.

[Rich Davis]

You gotta be excited. If you just love football the way I do, the way Danny does. Kavino. Damn buyer. I mean, geez. This week, I want you to really embrace today and tomorrow as like days of chill. Like, I don't know, finish taking down the Christmas stuff, maybe put up some Valentine's Day stuff with the wife and kids. Because starting Thursday, days of chill.

[Covino]

Can we look back on Sunday and say, hey, remember the days of chill on Monday, on Monday and Tuesday, Tuesday.

[Rich Davis]

And Wednesday, the days of chill. The days of chill. Listen, Christmas stuff's down for most people.

[Covino]

Yeah, I agree. I got them down this week.

[Rich Davis]

You know, just because my house looks so damn empty. Anyone else, like, prematurely put up Valentine's Day stuff, like a couple heart decorations with their kids or wife?

[Covino]

Not many people decorate for Valentine's, papa. Unless you have nose picking kids.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I got two little nose pickers. So we got all the Valentine's Day stuff up now.

[Covino]

Happy Valentine's, puppy.

[Rich Davis]

So I just want to remind everyone the slate of games we have this week, Thursday, right after our show. As soon as you get home. Notre Dame, Penn State, let's go. Who could call that game? Notre Dame's. Notre Dame's a one point favorite. One and a half. So that's like a. Who knows? Okay, then you enjoy the rest of your Thursday night. Maybe catch up on some Netflix, whatever the hell you're Watching. Maybe watch that documentary about the guy that never wants to die.

[Covino]

No, that sucks. Watch the Avicii one.

[Danny G]

And there's a new two part Jerry Springer documentary. I started that on Netflix earlier today.

[Covino]

Oh, I want to watch that then.

[Rich Davis]

Then Friday.

[Covino]

Wait, when do new Dexter episodes drop?

[Rich Davis]

Fridays.

[Covino]

Okay, so Friday I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch original sin Dexter.

[Rich Davis]

You can watch that on Friday along with Ohio State Texas. Then watch your Dexter, whatever the hell you're doing. Right. Saturday hits. You got multiple NFL wild card games.

[Covino]

In fact, you skipped our Saturday morning cartoons.

[Rich Davis]

I'm sorry.

[Covino]

No, I watch Muppet Babies.

[Rich Davis]

I'm sorry. You watch Muppet Baby Smurfs. And then we watch American Gladiators. No, first you watch Saved by the Bell.

[Danny G]

You skipped the Best of Covino and Rich.

[Rich Davis]

On Saturday, you watch Saved by the Bell, California Dreams wrestling. And then American Gladiators.

[Covino]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

Every kid's Saturday lineup. Then you got Chargers at Texans.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Rich Davis]

Steelers at Ravens.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Rich Davis]

And then you wake up Sunday, you got a triple header. Broncos, Bills, Packers, Eagles, Bucks, Commanders.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Rich Davis]

And then Monday night.

[Covino]

Oh, goodness.

[Rich Davis]

Vikings and Rams. I know. I can't stand up right now.

[Covino]

That's five straight days. I think you just put a tingle in everybody's football dingle. I think I did. I think Big Sexy Ryan has a slow roaster.

[Rich Davis]

Slow down, yo.

[Covino]

I mean, we all love football.

[Rich Davis]

Is there any update on Jalen Hurts and the concussion protocol? I keep seeing a pop up and I know you're keeping your eye on that because that is like. That carried on longer than many thought. Right?

[Spot]

Still in concussion protocol as of yesterday, they play Sunday, so today wouldn't be a practice day for them. Nick Sirianni saying that they have faith that Hertz will be available, but there's nothing official. For example, Zay Flowers didn't practice today. Ravens play on Saturday, so there's. They have a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday travel. You know, Steelers would travel on Friday, but. So tomorrow I think we'll have a more clearer picture on where Jalen hurts.

[Rich Davis]

Cool.

[Covino]

I know we say this a lot, Rich, but it's always a great reminder. If your next five days starting Thursday are that packed, now's the time to really take the decorations down. If you haven't, spend some time with the family, take your wife, your girlfriend out to dinner. We say that all the time as a reminder. But your next five days are stacked.

[Rich Davis]

It sounds like low hanging fruit advice.

[Covino]

Go grocery shopping. Get all your errands out of the way.

[Rich Davis]

Because it really isn't, though, because you would think that's like common sense. But you know how many women I know that talk about how their husbands are bird brains or their boyfriends don't pay attention if you plan on watching football for five days straight and really being selfish. Yeah.

[Covino]

You got today and tomorrow to do something nice. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Guess who, guess who's gonna volunteer to bring the kids to gymnastics and practice the next couple days?

[Covino]

Rich.

[Rich Davis]

You.

[Covino]

It's called balance.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, balance. Daniel. Son, we Learned that from Mr. Miyagi 35, 40 years ago.

[Covino]

If you got to go get a haircut, you know you got to do in the next two days, you're going to be busy. You're going to be busy over the weekend and you got to rub your hands together like a fly in anticipation.

[Rich Davis]

Yes. Football.

[Covino]

So, yeah, come Thursday, you're, you're stacked with, with things to watch. So that's great.

[Rich Davis]

Two college football playoff games and then of course, six wild card games. You could, you could argue that people love to say divisional weekend is the best weekend of football. But with you, with you adding the college football playoff and the six wild card games now, it's hard to argue that this is not the week.

[Covino]

Now, you know what's so underrated, Rich? Just in life, you often say that you need dots on your calendar, meaning like a destination or a vacation to look forward to. I feel like sports really just fulfills that void until you actually get to that vacation. Because it's really the only stuff I look forward to. You mean to tell me I have all this to look forward to?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

That gets me excited.

[Rich Davis]

I know that's how you feel about a good fight night.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

He knows a big box like, yes.

[Covino]

That'S that little, that little tiny dot on the calendar until you get to the real nice one when you're in Maui somewhere.

[Rich Davis]

So football. You got a stacked, awesome calendar. I did see this meme going around and it is interesting. Remember how until the Tampa Bay Bucks. And of course it was Tom Brady that did this because, I mean, he's Tom Brady. God. Looks like he could play now. You see him on the beach.

[Covino]

I mean, he's joking about it. He says his physique is ready and his arm is ready. He does look good.

[Rich Davis]

I'm a straight man. I question myself for a second. I'm like, look at this guy.

[Covino]

You felt the pulse.

[Rich Davis]

Tom Brady could still play. Yeah, but I bring up Tom because he was the guy that broke a, what was practically a 50 year streak of no home team playing in the Super Bowl. Remember the whole Thing of wherever the super bowl was, no team ever played in their home stadium. And then here comes Tom Brady. Super Bowls in Tampa, no problemo. TB12's got it. And he then broke that streak.

[Covino]

Yeah, it's kind of gross when you think about it. Like, could it have worked out any better?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. What else, Tommy? What else do you want? You want to own a team, Tommy? So, interestingly enough, would you say he.

[Covino]

Is the recipient of life's greatest lottery, or would you give that to Derek Jeter, who's the most blessed? Tom Brady's up there, man.

[Rich Davis]

He's like top three. But you know what, though? And I'm sure he copes with it in his own way. He broke up with his first wife in the middle of her pregnancy.

[Covino]

Yeah, but we interviewed her and she spoke highly of her.

[Rich Davis]

No, no, but I'm sure that wasn't easy.

[Covino]

I'm not saying he's perfect. I'm saying he won life's lottery, went.

[Rich Davis]

Through a divorce, a very public one, and now his ex is pregnant. So this the Life ain't all sunshine and rainbows for Tommy boy, but it is pretty sweet.

[Covino]

That's true. But I mean, as a guy who's been through a divorce, that's just part of so many people's lives.

[Rich Davis]

Unfortunately, that is true, brother. Right now I bring up Tom and that because Dan Byer, who's a historian of Super Bowls like I am, that was something else. When Tom Brady finally broke that streak and Bucks played at home, because that was something we were like, is that ever going to happen? And we would look at the calendar and be like, ooh, could the Saints make it when it's in New Orleans? When the Niners finally hosted one, it was like, ooh, could they go play in the Bay Area? Dan Buyer. Sorry.

[Spot]

That's okay. The Vikings a few years prior made it to the NFC Championship game and we thought maybe that would be the opportunity. Then the Philadelphia Eagles ended up demolishing them. But yeah, then you had a back to back years with the Rams.

[Rich Davis]

Here's something that I guess we're so confident and I get the first part. The Giants and the jets share a stadium we know MetLife. Or is that Aaron Rodgers calls it Jet life? No one ever is concerned. Could there be a conflict of playoff games because the jets and the Giants beat in the postseason? What's the odds, Dude? Not great. Look at the Los Angeles football scene. The Rams and the Chargers, both playoff teams now they changed and manipulate the playoff schedule. In fact, I always look forward To I'm sure, like many of you, I'm sure Dan too, I can't wait for that last Sunday night game of the year. Because, you know, either at halftime or during the first time out, Mike Tiruchio is going to come back and he's like, I got the schedule. And you're like, oh. You pause the screen and say, oh, when are the games going to be? There's only one time where there could be a stadium conflict, and that is championship Sunday, which This year is January 26th. And the the conflict would be if the Rams and the Chargers were both to host home games and were two of the final four teams, but the two teams with home field advantage, unlikely yet. Possibly.

[Danny G]

Yeah. There would only be 15 minutes in between the two games.

[Rich Davis]

And then you got to ask yourself, does the NFL change the format of how they've always done the late game and the night game on that Sunday where they've always been the two back to back games with a little 15, 20 minute buffer in between so there's no conflict. There is a way that the Chargers and the Rams could host the championship games. Now, let's be honest here. That would require a hell of a lot of primo teams to be eliminated. So it's unlikely. But is that one of those silly things you root for just to be.

[Covino]

Like, what would the other two pans out, see how it works out?

[Rich Davis]

I mean, it's interesting, right? And you know, thinking ahead, Sean McVay and Jim Hartbaugh are both good coaches. It's not, I think it's more likely that there'd be a SOFI conflict than a MetLife conflict.

[Spot]

Absolutely. And to your point, it would be tricky to give a team less rest to put it on Saturday night.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, exactly.

[Spot]

And then if you were to do it on Monday, I don't know if that's necessarily ideal, but that would be maybe the better option. If you do it, could you do a one eastern kickoff and then an 8:15 eastern kickoff?

[Rich Davis]

I think you would have to do almost the equivalent of an early game and Sunday night football. You'd have to. And you'd have to.

[Covino]

Why wouldn't they be able to do that? Is there any reason that they wouldn't be able to do that?

[Rich Davis]

Because you have to get 50 plus thousand people in and out of a stadium.

[Covino]

No, I understand. So you got to spread it out as far as possible.

[Danny G]

You need to give a change. The actual field art too.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's what I was thinking. What Else. Am I forgetting that you'd have to change the field. You have time. You have to have enough time for that. Forget about cleanup and traffic and everything else. You got to do that. So that would be interesting.

[Rich Davis]

Now you got to ask yourself the only way this could happen, because I got, I got the playoff bracket in front of me. Just do you want. You want to play? You want to play like silly little imagining games?

[Covino]

Let's do it just for the hell.

[Rich Davis]

First and first. Mostly, the Broncos would have to beat the Bills because without that, it's over. Because the only, the only way that.

[Covino]

Okay, the only get go. It's unlikely, but I'm saying the only.

[Rich Davis]

Way the Chargers could actually host the. The AFC Championship game is if the other team in the AFC Championship game is the seven seed, because they're the six seed. So. But the Broncos, you got to look at it that way. If. Would the. If the Broncos beat the Bills and then the Broncos went on to beat the Ravens again. This is like if the Broncos, they.

[Covino]

Have to go on some sort of tear.

[Rich Davis]

Bo Nix goes on a tear. And then by the way, can we also say on top of that, the Chargers. Oh, no, I'm sorry. The Chargers would then have to beat the Chiefs. See, it's.

[Covino]

Ezekiel Elliot is gonna have to go on a tear.

[Danny G]

Rich. The Broncos do have one of the better defenses. They lead the league in sacks. Rich said they would have to have a day, though.

[Covino]

Like, probable, but not impossible.

[Rich Davis]

Now the Rams, however, even though they. They don't appear because you're thinking of all the teams with better records, the Rams are the three seed. It's not as crazy the Rams could host. The upside, The Rams had the four seat or three seed. Four seed.

[Danny G]

Yeah, four.

[Rich Davis]

They. There's a way where Minnesota, because they're a really good five seed, could, you know, find themselves on the receiving end of playing a game. They shouldn't. They should have at home, but they don't. Yeah, but it's just one of those, like, things where it'll never happen until.

[Covino]

It happens until it does.

[Rich Davis]

And maybe in our lifetime, but maybe not. But it's those rare circumstances where two teams share a stadium and there is a circumstance in which it could happen, but it won't.

[Covino]

But it could. It could and it will one day.

[Danny G]

I saw some fans arguing on social media yesterday saying, well, SOFI would have to do like a generic LA logo in the middle of the field in, in the end zones.

[Rich Davis]

You have to get some quick drying paint out there.

[Covino]

Danny G. It will happen. Though based on the story of Tom Brady and the Buccaneers playing at home. Super Bowl. It's never going to happen. It happened and it worked out to their advantage. Dude, in my lifetime, I never thought I'd see a subway series in the World Series. It happened.

[Rich Davis]

Almost happened.

[Covino]

This year, it almost happened again. Right. The chances of this happening are probably slim now, but will happen one day.

[Rich Davis]

Danny, you think they'll ever be an Angels Dodgers World Series? Never in your life.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

What do they call that? Well, it's not even a rivalry.

[Danny G]

It's a freeway series.

[Rich Davis]

Freeway series? Nah. Right. That one.

[Covino]

The Angels. You think that it's to the playoffs. You think that until, as Rich said, until it happens.

[Danny G]

I would like to see Mike Trout.

[Rich Davis]

There, obviously, but I get Cubbies, White Sox. Yes, you think these things, but yeah.

[Covino]

Not like not be anytime soon, but eventually.

[Rich Davis]

Well, along the lines of all the great football we're talking about. I did want to mention that I saw this on TMZ because it's so gossipy. Did you see that? They revealed new food in the NFL for the wild card weekend. This is like some wild food.

[Covino]

Wild food for wild card weekend. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Touchdown toast.

[Covino]

Okay. I saw the pictures of this touchdown toast.

[Rich Davis]

Travis Kelsey supporters in Kansas City may want to get their hands on a massive piece of French toast with berry sauce and vanilla ice cream. Yeah, I like it.

[Covino]

Yeah, not bad.

[Rich Davis]

It's a big ass piece of french fries. Not bad. It's like a loaf of bread.

[Covino]

Yeah, I like them. They're going for it. Something different for the playoffs. I like it.

[Rich Davis]

How about the Philadelphia Pretzel John, where it's a big pretzel.

[Covino]

I don't like the name. What's a Pretzel John?

[Rich Davis]

John's like one of those like Philly terms, right?

[Covino]

I don't like that one.

[Rich Davis]

But it's a pretzel in the shape.

[Covino]

Who uses that term?

[Rich Davis]

I've never heard that term.

[Covino]

I remember wealthy people, maybe. Yeah. Okay.

[Rich Davis]

Shape of the eagle logo with all types of dippings.

[Covino]

All right. Looks cool.

[Rich Davis]

Looks cool, right?

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Sounds like the name of a Starbucks drink that Covina would refuse to order.

[Covino]

Yeah, I'd be like, I'll just get the pretzel thing.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, you know, the pretzel thing.

[Covino]

Do you mean the John? Yeah, yeah, Just give me the pretzel thing.

[Rich Davis]

What about this bad boy?

[Covino]

What is it?

[Rich Davis]

Houston Texans.

[Covino]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

For their wild card game. And by the way, did you also see that meme that every single playoff game the Texans have ever played is a Saturday at 4:30 every single game. The Houston Texans are unveiling the bigger in Texas tamale. It's a monstrous tamale that looks good with some really sweet chili and salsa dippings. So hey, fatsos, enjoy your food wild card weekend and enjoy all the football. Like we just said over the last, over the last couple of weeks, we had some good football. But if you are as die hard as most Fox Sports radio listeners, starting Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, five days of high stakes football action.

[Covino]

High stakes. Who's serving that?

[Rich Davis]

I have a question for you, being that you're a Yankees fan and I'm a Mets fan. Juan Soto. What's up? You know how they do the fan graph project projections every year?

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Off the top of your head, round about how many dongs did Soto hit last year at a Yankee Stadium? How many home runs did Juan Soto have?

[Covino]

41.

[Rich Davis]

41. They're projected saying Juan Soto as a met next year. Bets 276, 33 home runs, 100 RBI. I expect a little more for.

[Covino]

I mean, it's not as short of a porch, not as hitter friendly as Yankee Stadium pay for him again. And he gained like 35 pounds. Right.

[Rich Davis]

And now he's a fat Juan Soto. According to the fake memes, that's worth.

[Caller]

70 million, by the way.

[Covino]

You know, there was a whole side story, unless I misinterpreted it. Remember how there was all those pictures of Juan Soto look like he gained weight when he put the Mets jersey on?

[Caller]

It wasn't photoshopped.

[Covino]

No. Well, he did look a little chubbier. But Bleacher Report then put out like one where someone photoshopped it even more.

[Danny G]

No.

[Covino]

Yeah, look it up.

[Rich Davis]

Unless I now you don't know which one's real.

[Covino]

Exactly. Unless I totally got it wrong with someone behind the scenes, like released another one that wasn't real.

[Rich Davis]

With respect to Juan Soto, Shake Shack is in center field, the Citi Field. So I mean, I mean, I have.

[Caller]

The getty image of him, which means it's the actual image.

[Covino]

It's not looking good. Yeah, that means less home runs.

[Rich Davis]

You ever see Patrick Mahomes with his shirt off?

[Covino]

You know, you don't see like more hot dogs.

[Danny G]

It is a weird, it's a weird kind of pose though where he's like sticking his tummy out a little bit.

[Caller]

Yeah, but usually when you like lift your arms and it, you know, like stand tall, your belly kind of goes down a bit.

[Covino]

Yeah, but this actually grew. Look up the Bleacher Report story.

[Rich Davis]

Just look at that picture. Of Soto spot. And I say more to love. All right, let's do this. Cuddly Showtime Mahomes Trivia.

[Covino]

The mostly lovable Patrick Mahomes.

[Dan Byer]

Truth is I want everybody to love me, not just the refs.

[Covino]

It's time for some NFL trivia.

[Dan Byer]

But I'm here.

[Covino]

I'm here.

[Danny G]

Yes, we know you're here.

[Dan Byer]

All right, Patrick Mahomes here to play Showtime Holmes Trivia.

[Danny G]

All right. FSR security walking our broke Patrick into the main studio. Yeah, we know you have the week off. So what you drinking?

[Covino]

A little.

[Dan Byer]

That's right. Boozing, schmoozing. And expecting baby number three. Maybe I'll be working on baby number four. I'm feeling good. Let's go.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah, babies do any day now. Let's go. Happy to be here. Good to see you. Danny Garrett. What's up, big sexy?

[Danny G]

All right, let's meet the contestants. 24 time winner, Rich Davis. Right over there.

[Rich Davis]

What's up, Patrick?

[Danny G]

Sixteen time champion, Dan Byer.

[Spot]

Hello.

[Danny G]

Seven time winner, Spotty boy.

[Caller]

Thrilled to be here.

[Dan Byer]

Now I'm the winner. Division champ three Pete.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

And looking to win a CNR stainless steel swiggy on our studio lines. All right, Byer, I'll use you for this. Would you love to travel to Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, Tehachapi, California, Ogden, Utah, Winter Springs, Florida, Independence, Kansas or Scottsdale, Arizona?

[Spot]

I know we're all thinking let's go to the sun. Puerto Rico, Scottsdale. How about let's get some powder in Ogden, Utah, guys, huh?

[Rich Davis]

Phillip.

[Danny G]

All right. Philip, how are you?

[Covino]

Good.

[Rich Davis]

How are you guys? We're good, man.

[Danny G]

Good man. What do you do for a living there in Utah?

[Caller]

I'm a machinist.

[Danny G]

Real job. Really?

[Covino]

All right, cool.

[Danny G]

Here are the rules for Showtime Mahomes NFL Trivia. The first contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's a tie, we have a tiebreaker question. Your name is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move on to the next question. Are you ready?

[Dan Byer]

I'm ready.

[Danny G]

Let's get it on.

[Dan Byer]

I'm here. I'm ready. Patrick Mahomes. Let's go. And I'm a perennial winner. But who is the first NFL player to declare I'm going to Disney World. In a TV commercial after winning the super bowl, was it A, Joe Montana, B, Richard Dent or C, Phil Sims?

[Caller]

Philip.

[Danny G]

Philip.

[Caller]

Joe Montana.

[Rich Davis]

No DB I see you itching at the Butt.

[Danny G]

Dan Buyer for the steals. Yes. Bill SIMS.

[Dan Byer]

Dill Sims. January 25, 1987.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Dan Byer]

Going to Disney World.

[Danny G]

Byer. The first to get on the board here as we move to round two.

[Rich Davis]

DB Was that A. There's no documentary about that. Because I feel like that's one of those things. I feel like I saw a piece on.

[Spot]

Yeah. Where they was trying to. They were trying to organize him. And all the chaos that surrounded him.

[Rich Davis]

That was. You know who they beat that year? Kavino. Wait, where's Kavino? I don't even see him. Oh, there he is. Hey, Kavino.

[Dan Byer]

You know what slipped my mind? Phil Sims.

[Rich Davis]

John Elway in the Broncos.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah, the Broncos. But, yeah, huge fan of Mr. Toad's wild ride. How about you?

[Danny G]

All right, we moved around two Byers on the board.

[Covino]

All right.

[Dan Byer]

I was once quoted as saying, what about ketchup? Love ketchup.

[Rich Davis]

Is that. Is that.

[Dan Byer]

I'm just letting you know I love it. A, you can't have a good Thanksgiving meal without a little bit of ketchup on the side. B, in my eyes, the only mistake a ref can ever make is using Heinz ketchup instead of Hunts. You know, I'm. You know, I'm Hunt's guy.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Dan Byer]

Or C, on my hot dog, I put ketchup on top of my ketchup man.

[Caller]

Phillip.

[Rich Davis]

Philip.

[Danny G]

Philip.

[Covino]

I'll say C. No, Phil.

[Rich Davis]

Rich.

[Danny G]

Rich for the steal.

[Rich Davis]

I'll. I'll go A.

[Danny G]

How could you lose?

[Dan Byer]

Can't have a good Thanksgiving meal without a little bit of ketchup on the side.

[Caller]

That's true.

[Dan Byer]

That's how I feel.

[Rich Davis]

You know what, Patrick? I can't even imagine what on a Thanksgiving table would require. Ketchup.

[Dan Byer]

Turkey.

[Covino]

Yes.

[Caller]

It's very cranberry.

[Dan Byer]

Like, turkey's very dry without the ketchup.

[Rich Davis]

All right, let's go.

[Danny G]

Buyer and Rich both on the board as we move to round three.

[Dan Byer]

Round three. When did the New York Titans become the New York Jets? A, 1943. B, 1953. Or C, 1963?

[Caller]

Philip.

[Danny G]

Philip, I need this one.

[Caller]

I'm gonna say B.

[Dan Byer]

Phil, I love your style.

[Danny G]

I know.

[Dan Byer]

But you kind of suck at this game.

[Danny G]

I'm glad you're aggressive, though.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. You know, you went for it. Phil. Spot.

[Caller]

You wanted spots.

[Rich Davis]

Take a crack.

[Covino]

Spotty.

[Caller]

I'm gonna say 63.

[Danny G]

And you are right.

[Rich Davis]

Yes.

[Dan Byer]

See?

[Danny G]

Spotty gets on board.

[Dan Byer]

1963, the Titans became the Jets.

[Caller]

A lot of changes in the 60s.

[Danny G]

Buyer, rich and spotty, three way ties. We moved around four.

[Rich Davis]

I don't know what that means. That's also when Rich was born. Right? The 60s. Please. I was not even close.

[Dan Byer]

Round four. Aging me who just finished the NFL season third in passing yards behind Joe Burrow and Jared Goff. A, Mayfield, B, Lamar Jackson or C, Sam Darnold?

[Rich Davis]

Damn. Oh, db.

[Danny G]

DB Got in there.

[Spot]

Baker Mayfield.

[Danny G]

Yes. The win.

[Rich Davis]

Boom.

[Danny G]

That is Dan Byers. Sorry, Phil.

[Dan Byer]

Sorry, Phil.

[Danny G]

No, that's Byers 17th win in Showtime homes trivia.

[Rich Davis]

Deservedly so. What is that damn buyer Hulk Hogan over there.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Dan Byer]

By the way, gotta give props to Baker Mayfield. 4,500 yards puts him in third. And props to me and Brit who's expecting any day now. And let's go.

[Danny G]

Enjoy the wild card because you're gonna be watching at home like we are.

[Dan Byer]

Damn skippy.

[Rich Davis]

Later, Patrick.

[Dan Byer]

Later, guys.

[Rich Davis]

Man, I'm here.

[Danny G]

And. And thank you. Thank you, Philip, for playing there in Utah.

[Spot]

I see a Patrick. Have a good one. While Patrick leaves and Kavino comes in, I just wish a caller would thank me for picking them like they've already won. Like if you make it to on air, that's what you already won. I chose you, so you've won.

[Danny G]

You're like a winner in life.

[Spot]

I would love someone to be like, thanks, Dan. Thanks for picking Ogden, Utah. Yeah, you know, thanks for picking Wichita, Kansas.

[Rich Davis]

Keep that in mind.

[Spot]

Thanks for picking Erie, Pennsylvania over Puerto Rico and Scottsdale, Arizona.

[Rich Davis]

That's funny.

[Covino]

I will say this though. I was listening in the lobby and I liked Phil's style. At least he went for it. There's sometimes you pick somebody, Dan, or we pick somebody and they don't even just go for the guest. They're just sitting around waiting. You gotta go for it. I have a dumb hypothetical for you. Actually, Rich has a dumb hypothetical for you.

[Rich Davis]

Why? What's the other one?

[Covino]

No, the basketball shot. Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports radio. The numbers 8, 7, 7, 9 on Fox if you want to call us manana as we get excited for all the football that we have starting Thursday. Again, Danny G's on the phones. Ryan's here. Thanks again to Dan Byer for the updates. Spotty Boy on the videos. Remember, videos are up every day at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. Spot and Elijah and his team always putting up videos and clips for you guys. And you could watch a lot of our highlights on fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Our bonus podcast over promises there. Covino and Rich live from the tirerack.com studio. Quick reminder that tomorrow we do some mid week major Every Wednesday. And it's hump day already. Tomorrow gonna turn your hump day into a hump night. We're gonna go over the biggest stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Are they mid week or major? Thank you again, guys for hanging out with us. Now before we go, we had a lot of fun today. No doubt. Danny G. How do you feel about Antonio Pierce, by the way? You knew that was coming.

[Danny G]

Yeah, we just yesterday on the show we were talking about Ben Johnson, hopefully at least interviewing with Tom Brady, Telescope and Mark Davis. So we knew it was coming, but it. The circumstances stunk because all the injuries right from the start of the season and then minshew not working out. The other day, AP admitted that he should have went with Aiden O'Connell to start the season. And then he said he should have went with his gut more as far as some decisions he made managing games. Last season, he said he went with his gut a lot more when he, you know, finished that season strong.

[Covino]

They were 5 and 4 last year, 4 and 13 this year. So 9 and 17 total.

[Danny G]

Yeah. And he did great in the division to end the season last year. And this year he was winless in the division.

[Covino]

And the side question is, you know, where does a guy like that go after a head coaching gig?

[Rich Davis]

He becomes a coordinator like a DC somewhere in the next two, three years maybe.

[Covino]

So regroup, wish him the best. I think he's a good dude. I think he's a good coach. Antonio Pierce. But it didn't work out in with the Raiders.

[Rich Davis]

But, you know, dude, it's a but much like marriages, right? Like, unless the woman becomes your wife, every other relationship had an expiration date. And a lot of marriages have expiration dates. So I mean, Antonio Brown, it just didn't work out like you. He got the job unexpectedly, performed well enough with like, let's give this guy a shot. He didn't have the personnel injuries. It just sucks. He'll. He'll keep coaching. It just. It didn't work out. Like, hey, you know, we want to see other coaches. Tom Brady's like, yo, I've had enough.

[Covino]

And we end our show live from the tire rack.com studio with a stupid hypothetical. If you had one shot, do not miss your chance to blow.

[Rich Davis]

There is a hypothetical floating around social media and it has to do with basketball. Says you get one shot. You given the basketball schoolyard situation, here's a basketball Danny Ryan spot Cavino. Everyone listening. If you make a layup, you get 50 grand. Free throw will get you 100 grand, top of the key, three pointer, 500K a wing, three pointer, seven fifty a corner three. A million dollars. I know it's going to depend on, like, where you are financially. Like, yo, I could use the money, but do you just say effort? I'm taking the easiest $50,000 you ever get in your life. Wow.

[Covino]

I look at it totally different.

[Rich Davis]

Or do you say, like, hey, I have a shot to make a million dollars on one corner three.

[Covino]

It's house money. You're going for a shot. Why not go for the biggest shot and go for that? Unless you're a total mutant and you know you have no shot at all.

[Rich Davis]

Like, Big Mike. Big Mike, you know who runs this place?

[Danny G]

Who?

[Rich Davis]

He said, you know, with my knees and back, I can't. I mean, it would be foolish for me to do anything other than the layup. So he's like, I would take the easiest 50 grand.

[Danny G]

He could do an underhand free throw.

[Covino]

You know, it's. It's like when you're at the game, though, right, and they pick one dude to shoot the ball. I always. The guy with the wor. Like I said, it's always the guy with the worst shot. Stop. Get out of here. No, but they always pull somebody. You're like, me, how in the world. This guy's the worst shooter I've ever seen in my life.

[Danny G]

There's some embarrassing clips out there where you're like, did this person never pick up a basketball in their entire life?

[Covino]

I do understand with the pressure and the perception, the depth perception of that shot, it's going to be different in the moment.

[Rich Davis]

The pressure.

[Covino]

You see a lot of really uncoordinated people.

[Danny G]

That's what I was going to say. You see toddlers with better eye hand.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

If you're one of those people, then, yeah. The answer is simple. You go for the $50,000 layup. You think, if you're a guy that could actually shoot, why not go for the million dollars? I think it's as simple as that.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Caller]

You really. You think you have to, like, put more effort, you know, you have to, like, launch it. So you're, like, doing it, like, weird. You're, like, throwing it with two hands, like, tipping it. It's weird.

[Rich Davis]

It was fun. You're not a basketball player, so. Hold on, let me, before I pose the question again. I've done this in college.

[Caller]

You're not doing, like, side hands.

[Rich Davis]

I. I have. I have what you would arguably say. I have good basketball mechanics. I know how to make it. I Know how to like nicely shoot a jump shot.

[Covino]

You're going to get it in the vicinity of the rim like a normal human shoot.

[Rich Davis]

What I'm saying is I got chosen from the crowd when I was in college up in the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, New York.

[Caller]

Oh wow. They retired your number when you were there.

[Covino]

I. Yeah, it's called the Richest dome now. Riches Dome.

[Rich Davis]

Rich's Big ass Dome.

[Covino]

Stupid faces on it.

[Rich Davis]

So I was given $100 per three pointer I made, right?

[Covino]

Okay, 100 bucks.

[Rich Davis]

100 bucks per three pointer and I had like 30 seconds. I walked away. I think like three or 400 bucks. But let me tell you, the first few shots you were way off, right? Can't lie. I wouldn't lie to you guys here on Fox Sports Radio. My first two shots were air balls because I had never shot on a glass rim with 20,000 people in arena behind the glass. You shot at a schoolyard, a gym. Have you ever shot on a glass backboard with fans behind it?

[Caller]

It's like those basketball mechanics meant nothing.

[Rich Davis]

Your personal. You get in a rhythm and you're like, all right now I got it. But there's also crowds cheering and booing. Now if you're on a schoolyard by yourself, what if I told you was at halftime at a Lakers game? Does that change your answer?

[Covino]

No, I'm going for that million dollar shot.

[Caller]

Too much pressure.

[Covino]

And we say hypothetical. But hey, Mr. Beast, he'll make this happen.

[Rich Davis]

Have you watched his game show at all?

[Covino]

I haven't on Amazon. But these are the type of realities he creates.

[Rich Davis]

Spot, you're a guy that like you can make a layup, but I would doubt that you'd make a corner three. So you just wasted that shot. Are you saying 50 grand?

[Caller]

I think much like you, if I took a few shots, I think body would find it, kind of find a rhythm.

[Rich Davis]

You get one shot. So one shot.

[Caller]

So do you say, I thought like you said, yeah, one shot. No, I'd be screwed.

[Rich Davis]

You just say, well what am I doing? Maybe free throw.

[Covino]

How the heck could you say take the easy layup when you know that's possible to miss and not take the foul shot for 100,000.

[Rich Davis]

We'll see you guys tomorrow. Maybe we'll continue until then.

[Covino]

Ariba D. See you in the promised land.

[Rich Davis]

There's no way I'm missing a layup.

[Covino]

Thank you guys.