The Best Of Covino & Rich

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The Best Of Covino & Rich"

The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: The Best Of Covino & Rich
Release Date: December 6, 2024
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Description: The Herd with Colin Cowherd is a thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day.

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosts Covino and Rich tackle the significant decline in NBA ratings, dissecting the multifaceted reasons behind a reported 28% drop in 2024. Through lively discussion, listener interactions, and insightful analysis, they explore the underlying factors contributing to this downturn and contemplate potential solutions to rejuvenate fan interest.

Main Discussion: The Decline of NBA Ratings

1. NBA Ratings Drop: A Stark 28% Decline

At [03:01], Rich kicks off the conversation by highlighting the alarming 28% decline in NBA ratings. He emphasizes the gravity of this drop compared to a more modest 5% decline, underscoring the significant impact on the league's popularity.

2. The Steph Curry Effect: Revolutionizing the Game

Covino attributes much of the decline to Steph Curry's transformative influence on the game ([07:36]). Rich concurs, stating, "As great as Steph Curry is, he changed the game." They discuss how Curry's emphasis on three-point shooting has altered playing styles across all levels, leading to an overreliance on long-range shots that many fans find unappealing.

3. Overemphasis on Three-Point Shooting

Rich expresses concern over the shift towards excessive three-point shooting: "Now when young players are throwing up threes without any plays or defense, it could be that the game has been changed for the worse." Danny G adds, "It's like in our world, everyone thinks they could do a podcast, and it waters down the product." This analogy highlights their belief that the focus on three-pointers has diluted the strategic and physical aspects of basketball.

4. Load Management and Player Entitlement

The hosts delve into the issue of load management—teams resting key players to prevent injuries—as a contributing factor to declining fan engagement ([05:41]). Rich notes, "Load management stories, and the lack of rivalries, have created a perfect storm of factors that turn fans away." Dan Beyer further comments, "Contracts and money got out of hand. Players wanting to rest and make big money has turned your average Joe off." This sentiment reflects frustration with perceived player entitlement and the prioritization of individual careers over team competitiveness.

5. Lack of Rivalries and Physicality

Rich laments the absence of intense rivalries that once fueled fan passion: "There was genuine hatred and competitiveness, like in the past with the Red Sox vs. Yankees or Pistons vs. Jordan." Dan Beyer supports this by highlighting the decline in physical play and the increase in flopping, which detracts from the excitement and unpredictability that rivalries bring to the game.

6. Comparisons with the WNBA and Emerging Competitions

Introducing a contrasting perspective, Danny G mentions the WNBA's rising popularity: "The WNBA is gaining better numbers than the NBA this year, possibly attracting fans who seek more competitive and authentic basketball." Rich adds, "Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark's rivalry is far more engaging than many NBA showdowns." This comparison suggests that the structured and passionate competition in the WNBA might be more appealing to contemporary sports audiences.

7. Potential Solutions and Fan Engagement

Covino and Rich brainstorm potential solutions to rejuvenate NBA interest. Ideas include enhancing defensive play, reintroducing traditional rivalry elements, and balancing three-point shooting with more strategic and physical gameplay. Rich proposes, "Perhaps integrating more strategic elements and reducing the over-reliance on three-point shots could restore some balance to the game." They emphasize the importance of fan feedback in guiding these changes.

Audience Interaction: Nostalgia and Listener Calls

Beyond the primary discussion on NBA ratings, the episode features segments where listeners reminisce about nostalgic experiences with defunct restaurant chains and local favorites, such as Chi Chi's, Bennigan's, and Quiznos. These segments, while not directly related to the main sports discussion, provide a glimpse into the hosts' connection with their audience's personal histories, fostering a sense of community and shared experience.

Example Quote: At [39:42], Rich reflects on past employment: "I worked there and I'm telling you it was a great place and it was a fun Time. I wish Bennigan's made a comeback."

Conclusions and Final Thoughts

In wrapping up the discussion, Covino and Rich reiterate the complexity of the NBA's declining ratings, emphasizing that it's not attributable to a single factor but rather a confluence of issues. They express hope that with continued dialogue and strategic adjustments, the NBA can restore its former glory and re-engage its passionate fanbase.

Final Quote: Rich concludes, "It's tough to pinpoint because it's a perfect storm of all these things. The lack of defense, the three-point obsession, load management—all have turned the NBA into something that fans find disengaging."

The hosts urge listeners to share their opinions and participate in the conversation, highlighting the importance of community feedback in driving meaningful changes within the league.

Notable Quotes

• Rich ([03:03]): "NBA ratings are down 28%. That's significant."
• Rich ([05:10]): "Could it be that Steph Curry ruined the NBA?"
• Danny G ([05:08]): "No, no, that could have been just saying."
• Rich ([07:36]): "For as great as Steph Curry is, he changed the game."
• Danny G ([06:05]): "I'm saying, could it be."
• Rich ([06:10]): "Steph Curry could be the reason."
• Dan Beyer ([06:29]): "You can't tiptoe around this. Say what you want to say?"

Conclusion

This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers a deep dive into the NBA's significant ratings decline, exploring the interplay of superstar influence, gameplay evolution, player management practices, and fan engagement strategies. Covino and Rich provide insightful analysis, enriched by listener interactions and personal anecdotes, making it a thought-provoking listen for sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike.

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions from the podcast episode, focusing primarily on the NBA ratings decline and its implications, while briefly acknowledging additional segments related to listener engagement and nostalgia.

Transcript

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[Danny G]

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[Rich]

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[Danny G]

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[Rich]

App by searching FSR. Now here's the story. Morning Glory. NBA ratings are down 28%, dude. I mean, that's significant though. If it was like, yeah, yo, ratings are down, how that about 5% this year? Yeah, whatever. 28%. 1.8 million are tuning into TNT. 1.7 million are tuning into ESPN games, but overall down in a major way, 28%. So it's got a lot of fans. It's got the NBA scrambling. NBA is like, oh, hold up. We're going to partner with 2K. We're going to do shot meters and make it fun and do all these fun things. And fans are like, yeah, who cares? There's this feeling of, who cares? So we ask you, well, why don't you care? And that's the beauty of Fox Sports Radio. We get you involved. Look, we're nationwide and we want to know your opinion. Why? Why don't you care? What turned you off? Was it load management? Was it the lack of rivalry? There's so many examples and potential reasons why. But I'm saying this just to start it off. Yeah. For as great as Steph Curry is, changed the game. You go around any gymnasium, any playground, any park in the United States, worldwide, kids are just shooting threes. Right? And when we saw Steph do it, you're like, whoa, man, he's the best at Splash Brothers.

[Danny G]

For real.

[Rich]

They changed the game and we all stopped and stared. We were in awe. We still are. What he did was amazing, but it changed the game.

[Danny G]

Yep.

[Rich]

Now when a few years have passed and these young cats are coming up and we see how much he really did change the game, and people are just throwing up threes without any plays, just throwing up threes and there's no defense and they're just throwing up threes, could it be that the guy that changed the game, when we look back, changed it for the worst?

[Danny G]

Don't tiptoe around this. Say what you want to say?

[Rich]

I'm saying, could it be.

[Danny G]

No, no, that could have been just saying.

[Rich]

That seems to be a large reason as to why people are turned off by it. There's lack of physicality. As a result, no one wants to drive the ball. They just throw it up. And again, here's the other part about it. Here's why I can't fully say it's Steph Curry's fault. He did it and he did it well. He was the best to ever do it. Everyone else trying to do it are just like bad copycats. They can't do it as well. You know, it's like, well, we're just seeing weak ass versions of what he was doing.

[Danny G]

You know what it's like? It's like in our world, everyone thinks they could do a podcast.

[Rich]

It's true, man. So it waters down the product. The product being the Splash brothers, Steph Curry, what he was able to accomplish. So we're seeing watered down versions of that. And when you factor all those things together, you're like, yeah, and that means lack of defense. I mean, sloppy shots. And then you factor that into the lack of rivalries. Rich. I mean, it's a perfect storm of people saying, I don't want to watch this crap.

[Danny G]

I want you to just say it.

[Rich]

I mean, you want me to say it, but I'm giving you my honest opinion.

[Danny G]

Steph Curry.

[Rich]

Steph Curry could be the reason.

[Danny G]

No, not could be. Steph Curry ruined the NBA.

[Rich]

I mean, Rich is saying that I'm being fair. He ruined the NBA. I'm being fair because he did so many great things for the NBA. But when you have again, a bunch of people now just throwing up threes, they're not Steph Curry. They're not Steph Curry in a sloppy basketball. And it's whack to watch.

[Dan Beyer]

You can't pin this on him though, I don't think, because, look, he at least was in a set system firing up threes and yeah, he had some trick play, some half court shots and all that. But nowadays I feel like besides competitiveness being low and a lack of rivalries, like you mentioned, I feel like there's also. How do I say it? With the load management and all that, it feels like pampered. There's a. Yeah, entitled is the word.

[Rich]

Entitled.

[Dan Beyer]

Entitled.

[Rich]

Entitlement.

[Dan Beyer]

Yes. Contracts got out of hand. Money got out of hand. And with players wanting to rest, making that big money, it's turned your average Joe off.

[Rich]

Okay, here's the thing. It's tough to really pinpoint, because I believe it's a perfect storm of all this stuff. And Danny G. Probably has the best insight because he's the guy that's watching all the time, really, really trying to hold on to his, his viewership here. He's a big Lakers guy. You know, we need to be honest with ourselves and say, well, why am I not tuning?

[Danny G]

I was just going to say that like instead of us speculating, which is fun.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Like, hey, I wonder why everyone else.

[Rich]

And I tell you what it is.

[Danny G]

Ask yourself, I know why. I don't really care why.

[Rich]

Again, let's hear Rich first and then we'll figure it all out.

[Danny G]

I have a hard time really caring about the NBA at this point of the year because football, there is importance to every Sunday, Thursday and Monday night game. College, you lose one or two games, you might be out of the playoff. There is a, there's a sense of, of urgency and a sense of importance to each matchup and game in the NBA. Danny, you said it the other day like, oh, the Lakers lost, but you know, it was a back to back. So it's almost as if they gave that game away.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, I said that was their excuse. I was making a joke about it because it is a lot of teams excuse.

[Rich]

Hey, you know what else I started thinking about? Danny G. Speaking of your Lakers, maybe for as great as LeBron's longevity has been. Right. And how remarkable it is even though he's been slumping lately, maybe people are sick of that storyline too because he's the biggest name in the NBA and people are just over the LeBron stories all the time.

[Dan Beyer]

I feel like the NBA cup experience experiment, I should say, hasn't worked so far because you two, I'll use you as the casual NBA fan. Yeah, I feel like you guys were locked in a little bit to the NBA cup last season. The in season tournament, we called it last season. This year, can you guys tell me who the favorite is for the cup? Can you tell me which big team has been eliminated? No, see, the Lakers aren't even in it.

[Rich]

Yeah, Lakers are out. I knew that.

[Dan Beyer]

And they won and they won the cup last year.

[Danny G]

Big haired.

[Dan Beyer]

So Rich, you were saying a lack of importance throughout the schedule. The whole idea of the in season tournament was to get eyeballs on it and interest in it at the start of the season, which a lot of people don't start paying attention until after Christmas. It's always been like that.

[Danny G]

There's a sense also for me. And again, you got to ask yourself and then think, well, what about other people as well? I look at it this way. There's 30 NBA teams okay with the play in game now for the nine and 10 seeds and that, you know, the little changes they made a couple years back, 20 of the 30 teams are technically in the postseason. So you're saying 2/3 of the teams, no matter how good or bad you are, you're in after 82 games. Like, and it used to be. I'll give Dan Buyer credit. He said it the other day. There used to be a sense of the one seed. You wanted it, it mattered. You want it to be a one or two seed. Now teams look at matchups like, well, if we're the five seed, it's a better round one for us, and maybe that's a better matchup. It's almost like, get in and then we'll step on the gas.

[Rich]

Okay, for me, you almost.

[Danny G]

You almost just can't be one of the bottom feeding trash teams unless you're a bottom feeding trash team.

[Rich]

You're in it for me. Again, we're trying to figure out why we're not hating on the NBA. Because what the NBA did a great job of was creating superstars. And they did a really great job of that for a long time. But now ratings are taking a hit again, down 28%. And it's a mix of all of these things. And it could be the just people shooting up threes, right? The lack of play formations and plays and, and strategy and things like that. But for me, it was a lot of the load management stories Rich. And the lack of physicality, meaning you got these big bad dudes who aren't driving the ball. And when they do have physical contact, they're flopping and falling and there's fouls called all the time. And to me, that slows down the game. And it's like so eye rolly to see you're like, come on, dude, it's the NBA and it's not the NBA. I'm not. I'm not saying it should be the NBA we grew up with, but it's so far from that that it's almost a turn off. So that's part of it for me. Db, what's going on? Dan Beyer with the insight.

[Andy Lee]

I love all of your recommendations because it's an accumulation of things for me. You ever been in a relationship where there was a thing that, you know, broke the camel's back, where it was just, okay, this is the final strike on our show.

[Danny G]

We call that the dryer light theory. I dated a girl for five years, and our final fight was I would leave the dryer door open for the washer dryer, and that little light would stay on.

[Andy Lee]

Yes.

[Danny G]

And that was our last fight breakup. And it's. It wasn't the dryer light, Dan.

[Andy Lee]

Correct. It was everything that came. So it's. Load management. It's. Playoffs are more important than the regular season. It's maybe the physicality. It's the shooting threes. It's all of that because. Because I just remember when the Cavs and Warriors were going through that final stretch where I'm just like, gosh, the finals are already predetermined. I would love to have it up in the air. And last year's Western Conference was that exact thing. Who would have picked that? Dallas would have ran the table. Everything that I had asked for five years ago was coming to fruition, and I was not brought in. It did not bring me in. So it's everything that you guys have been saying, and finally it just got to the point where now I'm like, all right, it's too late. I don't care as much anymore. All of the things, everything that you guys said are reasons why I would turn away from the game. And now it's difficult to even turn back. And if I'm. If I'm not watching the Bucks, who would be my favorite team?

[Rich]

Which is so wild because they, like I said, they did such a great job of marking their stars like household names. So many stars in the NBA, reasons to watch. And they gave you so many reasons to watch and took it away with all the things we just discussed. So what was. Of all those things, what is the. What was the drier light then, I guess, is what we're saying.

[Danny G]

Can I tell you, this is another layer. I remember when the. When the Clippers got Kawhi. I remember that was the first time a major acquisition felt like it didn't really mean much because he wasn't the same guy, maybe, or like the load management and the player resting and all that, that, to me, was a big turn off. Because I feel like every day during Dan Byers update during the NBA season, so he'll throw in one line like. And by the way, guys, tonight, Giannis out for the Bucks or Trey Young out for the Hawks.

[Rich]

Every time you say that, too, I think of the little kid that went there to see that guy, and he's not playing again, and you're like, wow, that sucks.

[Dan Beyer]

I feel like they really need to tighten the screws around the entire league with load management. They're, they're trying, they're attempting, they have attempts at that. And also just running plays. And getting back to what made the NBA great, we see a lack of defense on a nightly basis. We talked the other day about a viral video that went around last week, a recent NBA game. There's this sequence back and forth where a total of like 10 three pointers were chucked up. All of them missed, by the way. And it was wild. And NBA fans, underneath this viral video, this guy wrote, I'm not going to lie. As someone who's been watching the NBA consistently my entire life, this is the first season where I'm not actively watching the games.

[Rich]

That's what I'm saying. That's a problem.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah. Next guy ain't even trying to run plays no more than the next commenter, a female. I swear, NBA games are like planet Fitness open runs nowadays.

[Rich]

Dude, nail on the head. For real. Every time you watch that, that's how it feels. You're not seeing anything that you wouldn't see at a gym. At a regular gym, dudes just throwing up shots. And you know, Dan Byer said this sort of jokingly, tongue in cheek the other day we were talking about the new golden bat rule that they're potentially bringing up here for the mlb.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Remember he said the only way to fix it. What if you made a three pointer, a two point shot and a layup three points. So it would force people to, to drive toward the basket.

[Danny G]

Getting to the basket closer should reward you more.

[Rich]

Yes, that would, that would be one way to sort of fix the problem now. Because how do you reverse something? Right. That's already there.

[Danny G]

The analogy Camino would be in baseball analytics have proven a guy that bats 2:10, but if he hits a lot of doubles and home runs, his batting average doesn't matter. That's the same.

[Rich]

You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube like it's, it's out.

[Danny G]

Chris Rock said, you know, one girl, girl does something you for you in the bedroom. Every girl's got to do that.

[Rich]

From now on, you move backwards sexually. So the only way you move backwards to where we are in the NBA is honestly Dan Beyer, what you said.

[Andy Lee]

Yeah. And a four point shot that you guys were talking about or the 10 point shot that we saw with Rock and Jock. It does. Exactly. It would make it even worse.

[Rich]

Wow.

[Andy Lee]

Because of the percentages and the numbers and how you would break it down and at some point. Yeah, like let's just take all fours. Let's just take all ten pointers from half court. All we gotta do is make 12 of them, and we'll win this game.

[Rich]

Richard and I, back in the day, we used to fight the wussification of America, right? The wussification of America. Then eventually we just lost the battle. And the world changed, right?

[Danny G]

Of course.

[Rich]

And we rolled with it, because if you didn't, you just got left back and you became a dinosaur. And I always go back to the first story. The first story when you started to see the world change to a very politically correct place was everybody sort of gets a trophy. That was the thing, right?

[Danny G]

Everyone hated that. Everyone that was like, what's going on?

[Rich]

Everybody gets a trophy.

[Danny G]

That was every old guy's gripe back in my day.

[Rich]

Everyone trophies and that. And then it was like a slippery slope after that, right? When I think to the NBA, like, what was the first sign of this? To me, it was the buddy chummy atmosphere of after the game. These dudes were friends, and we weren't used to seeing that in the NBA. Especially, like in the NBA, you. They were rivals, right? It was like the video game ArchDrive. Remember that Arch rival they used to fight. And I'm not saying I'm not condoning fighting, even though that's funny. I'm just saying there was a feeling of they didn't like each other. And you would see at the end of the game, people just slapping ass and high five. And you're like, what's that about?

[Danny G]

Yeah, they're just rich guys making money. And that sense.

[Rich]

That was one of the first signs of, for me, looking back, of, oh, it's changing a little bit.

[Danny G]

Danny G. Before you make your point, when you look back at some of these documentaries from not that long ago, we're talking about, if you're 30, 40, 50 years old from your childhood, the 04 Red Sox documentary Last Dance, Michael Jordan, you saw that in our lifetime.

[Rich]

Those Red Sox hated the Yankees hated them.

[Danny G]

The Pistons hated Michael Jordan. The Celtics, Lakers were winning time, like, and Jordan hated. Everybody saw this competitiveness. And it almost seems like it led its way to a buddy chummy, hey, we're all making money. It's a fraternity.

[Rich]

Whoever wins, for me, yeah.

[Dan Beyer]

And just a few weeks back on our show, you were talking about Draymond Green and the crap he gets for being as physical as he is.

[Rich]

Maybe need some of that.

[Dan Beyer]

Look, you don't want dirty plays, but you want the physicality in the defense to be there. And the last thing I'll say in it. Let's not be too short sighted though, because remember, once the NFL, who's king, once their season is over, then we're left with the NBA. And that's when all the eyes go to it. So can they turn the corner as far as these ratings being so low?

[Rich]

Let's hope so. So again, this isn't us rooting against the NBA. I want to make that clear too. In fact, I want to turn my focus and shift my focus hardcore into that again. But when, when we were reading that the ratings are down 28%. Just keep it clear. And keep in mind right now that we're just trying to say, well, why is that? What is that for you? Is it all those things? But was there one straw that broke the back for you?

[Danny G]

I thought of one other thing, and this is a credit to Iowa, Sam's girl, Caitlin Clark. I'm a firm believer in someone taught me this once, and I love this thought. And I know you do as well. Everything you say yes to, you're saying no to something else.

[Rich]

True.

[Danny G]

If you take overtime at work. Yeah, you took the overtime. But now you're not seeing your kids for dinner, right? Yeah, Buddies. We'll play golf on Saturday. You know what golf on Saturday means? You can't bring your daughter to dance class or something.

[Rich]

You know, you miss lunch with your wife.

[Danny G]

Yeah. Everything you do that you say yes to, you saying no to something else. And I think the time and effort and interest people genuinely, because at first I didn't think it was genuine, I'll be honest with you. But the genuine interest in the WNBA and the numbers they were putting up that are now better than the NBA numbers this year are saying, you know what, maybe you're not being pulled into the NBA and you're like, well, I want some basketball. Yeah, I watch the women.

[Rich]

Well, there was great rivalry there, too. So Angel Reese rivalry.

[Danny G]

Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. Fact. Better rivalry than any two dudes in the NBA.

[Rich]

All right, so tell me, tell me.

[Danny G]

A rivalry in today's NBA that's better than Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. And I'm not even a big WNBA fan, but I know, I know those two going at it is way more interesting than who? Oh, so like Steph and LeBron. Like, come on.

[Rich]

I'm saying, for as good as Steph Curry has been for the NBA, it also sort of ruined the NBA in a big way. Because all you're seeing is people throw up sloppy shots, there's a lack of defense Lack of physicality. So it's kind of like, for as much as I loved Limp Bizkit, Rich at one point in New Metal. Yeah. Fred Durst, it sort of ruined rock for years to come. It never really recovered after that.

[Danny G]

Sometimes something that feels great.

[Rich]

Right.

[Danny G]

Doesn't always have long lasting results because.

[Rich]

You can't do it as good as. As Linkin park and Limp Bizkit did. You know, people can't shoot as good as the Splash brothers did and as good as Steph Curry does, and it just looks sloppy and lame when they try, and it's not a good product as a result. So we ask you, why is it.

[Danny G]

Down 28% if you watch reality television at all? Like, competition shows once they stop being mean to the contestants.

[Rich]

Right. That's good. Yeah.

[Danny G]

I lost interest.

[Rich]

You liked American Idol because Simon Cowell was mean. It's true.

[Savannah Guthrie]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Do you want Lionel Richie being like, everyone's great. I love Lionel. But I mean, like.

[Rich]

But you know how you tie that into the NBA? You liked it when there was serious rivalry and hatred and they weren't pals, and it wasn't kind and it wasn't sweet. You know, it's a different game. And it sort of all caught up recently. What was it for? You do quick phone calls, and then we're giving away some Prizes. All right. 87799 on Fox.

[Danny G]

Hello to J.D. in North Carolina. J.D. what's up, man?

[Ron]

Hey, how are y'all doing? Been listening the whole time. I agree with all the various reasons why they're lagging, but I've got a few things. I might give it some juice.

[Danny G]

Yeah, give it some juice, man. Break out the sunny day. Let's go.

[Ron]

So kind of riffing on the points thing that y'all were talking about earlier. What if instead of like a 4 point or a 10 point, they took away a point if you missed a three.

[Danny G]

Oh, wait, how about the three?

[Ron]

It's a negative.

[Rich]

How about, like, negative one?

[Danny G]

Like, for every five missed threes, it's like, minus a three pointer. I don't know. There's got to be some ridiculous rule. But then again, everyone hates the idea of the golden at bats.

[Dan Beyer]

How about if the other team gets to shoot free throws when somebody flops?

[Rich]

Ooh, I go, oh, if it's a flop. Yeah, I like that.

[Dan Beyer]

Like a personal foul called on a flopper.

[Rich]

Yeah. No. Something to balance it out. Yeah. Honestly, I think DB has the best idea, though. And if you reverse the other day, it's the reverse four points. But it should because it's more difficult to drive to the basket. Yeah.

[Dan Beyer]

And I especially like buyers idea for the NBA All Star game that would flip the script.

[Rich]

Four points for a layup. I'm sorry, three points for layup. Two points for a three point shot.

[Danny G]

Makes sense.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

But I think it'd be a fun experiment at the All Star Game. David in Sacramento. What's up, man?

[Ron]

Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Regarding the golden at bat, a couple of thoughts. One is, I think the reason everybody thinks it's so stupid is just because it's called the golden at bat. Like if they called it a substitution, then maybe people would. I mean, it's a good idea. It's just called. It's just got a stupid name.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

You know what it reminds me of? Jamba Juice. They have a delicious drink that Cavino used to refuse to order because he didn't want to say Orange Dream Machine.

[Rich]

Yeah, I didn't want to say that. There's a drink at this local restaurant. Oh, go ahead, buddy. Go ahead, get.

[Ron]

Oh. My other thought was, what would make the golden at bat even better is if the guy mouths off to the umpire and he sends him to the golden showers.

[Rich]

There you go.

[Danny G]

By the way, the thing you were.

[Dan Beyer]

Going to say, Jamba Juice.

[Danny G]

I know your part two of that.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Don't you also refuse to like Whole Foods? Isn't there a shake called like the Peanut Buttery that.

[Rich]

I don't like any of these corny drinks. There's a whiskey business. I'm like, can I get an Old Fashioned? Do you mean the whiskey business there, like. Yeah, the Old Fashioned. That's good. Yeah, let's do that. All right, we got Jennifer in Michigan. You're on the Cavino and Rich Show, Fox Sports Radio.

[Ron]

Good late afternoon for me here in Michigan, guys. As far as basketball goes, I still follow the Pistons, but I think it was back when the whole Black Lives Matter thing started. Everyone became woke at that point. I was still cheering for the Pistons, but I was a little upset. Even I was doing that with all the teens I cheer for.

[Danny G]

Listen, there are. There is a set like, you can't be in denial. There is a section of the, of the country that does feel like sports got political at some point. I don't think that's the reason now. Like, I don't. I don't think people aren't watching in 2024, maybe for a minute during, you know, 2020, there were people that got a little put off when things got political and cultural. But yeah, I Wouldn't deny that.

[Rich]

But I do think that the things we. We discussed are more of the primary reasons you could chime into at Covino and Rich, OX Sports Radio and let us know. Any other phone calls now, Danny G. Or do you want to give away some prizes?

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, I think it's time right now to give away some swiggies.

[Rich]

Let's do it.

[Danny G]

Let's do it now. Everyone seems to be obsessed with this cup. Incredible cups.

[Cavino]

Fans lining up at Target stores before.

[Rich]

Sunrise just to snag one.

[Danny G]

Whoa.

[Rich]

Not the NBA Emirates Cup.

[Dan Beyer]

No, we're talking about seeing our swiggies.

[Rich]

Oh, that cup. Stainless steel water bottle. And we got new ones. Sapphire Midnight Black. Midnight Black swiggies, man. Stainless steel water bottles. Really nice. And we're giving some away.

[Dan Beyer]

Covino made up the name for those, by the way.

[Rich]

Well, that's the color of my card. I just got Sapphire Midnight Black. Sapphire Midnight.

[Dan Beyer]

All right, so all you got to do is leave a podcast review at Apple for Covino and Rich and if I read yours, I'll give the email address later for you to send me an email that you heard yourself on the air and then I'll mail you a swiggy. Here we go. I'm going to start. Instead of kissing your guys ass like a lot of these people do, how about this one? A one star review. The title, Awful. Can't stand these two guys. Horrible. But here's where I'm confused. Then he goes on to say, this guy's hairy, by the way. Never listen to an episode. It's just ads. 60 seconds of nails on a chalkboard.

[Rich]

So he hates it so much that he can't listen past the minute. Is that what it is?

[Dan Beyer]

I guess he doesn't even make sense with what he wrote.

[Danny G]

You know what it's like, Danny G. When you look up Yelp reviews for a restaurant or a store or you know, something for your kids. If the complaint is something ridiculous like the hostess was mean, that's not the food. You're not complaining about the food. Yeah, like that's your experience.

[Rich]

You still hate things. I kind of respect it. You know why I hate the show? This is us. I hate it. Right? Why ask me how many episodes I watched?

[Danny G]

How many?

[Rich]

Like maybe a minute of one.

[Dan Beyer]

How do you do it?

[Rich]

Because I hated it.

[Dan Beyer]

You don't really know what, the whole show?

[Rich]

Yeah, you know what? You know what? Harry's my kind of guy.

[Danny G]

Give him a swig. Can I tell you, Dan Buyer, this is how ridiculous Cavino is during its Heyday when it was like a hot show, I was like, kavino, you gotta watch Handmaid's Tale. It's really good, right? And he goes, he goes. The one where the girls are dressed like pilgrims. I hate it. I don't like it.

[Rich]

I'm like.

[Danny G]

But you've never watched it. The name is stupid. Okay, okay.

[Rich]

You could just tell.

[Dan Beyer]

All right, before we get to DB's update, let's give away two winning reviews. So five star here titled Sports with a side of life from Birdshawn. These guys are great. Listen to them since the serious days. So glad to have found them again. The new crew they have at Fox Sports adds such a terrific, terrific atmosphere.

[Rich]

I agree, man.

[Dan Beyer]

Keep it up, guys.

[Danny G]

I agree.

[Rich]

And that's awesome. That's great insight. We do have a great team and I'm glad you found us again.

[Dan Beyer]

All right, and the next winner. Five star review. Great show. Where all the others lack. Paul, great for the drive home. And another listen in the morning makes this show totally worth it. On the podcast CNR bringing the funny and the up to date topics for the casual sports fan.

[Danny G]

I love the sneak diss to all the other shows.

[Rich]

Yeah, me too, man. More of that.

[Danny G]

I'm okay with that.

[Rich]

You know, I need rivalry, bro. Need a little rivalry.

[Danny G]

You hear that, Jonas Knox?

[Rich]

You hear that, Rob Parker?

[Danny G]

I'm coming for you.

[Dan Beyer]

That was from Rock Monster. And if you heard your review, read, email [e-mail] that's crprizesmail.com.

[Cavino]

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[Rich]

I'm thirsty.

[Cavino]

Watch. I just pop in a capsule, choose my strength and wow, it's beginning to.

[Rich]

Feel more seasonal in here already.

[Cavino]

If your holiday party doesn't have a bartender, then you become the bartender. Unless you've got a Bartesian, because Bartesian craft every cocktail perfectly in as little as 30 seconds. And I just got it for $50 off.

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[Rich]

Hey, it's Cavino and Rich, and you all know we like to take this show on the road. We're college sports fans. We travel.

[Danny G]

And when we're in those college towns, you know where we're staying at? Graduate by Hilton.

[Rich]

Gotta do Graduate.

[Danny G]

Their hotels are made for fans. We just stayed at their new 1 in Auburn, Alabama. It is game day every day in there.

[Rich]

In fact, we've been to a lot of graduate hotels. Always a great time. Each one's unique to their own city. Seattle, Oregon. We were in Tempe, Arizona.

[Danny G]

Nashville.

[Rich]

Yeah, Nashville was insane. Rich, are you still recovering from that trip?

[Danny G]

Great karaoke bar.

[Rich]

Each one goes above and beyond. And I can't wait to go back again. You just need to see these hotels and now's the time. Stays are up to 20% off right now at participating Graduate Hotels.

[Danny G]

So good. Go to graduatebyhilton.com to check out all their locations and book your stay. Let me say that again. Up to 20% off your stay when you book by January 5th. Go to graduatebyhilton.com hi everyone.

[Rich]

It's Savannah Guthrie and Hoda Kotb from the Today show.

[Andy Lee]

We love this time of year.

[Rich]

There's so much to celebrate.

[Danny G]

That's right.

[Rich]

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[Danny G]

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[Rich]

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[Danny G]

So join us every morning on NBC.

[Rich]

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[Rich]

Man. I'm seeing a lot of feedback of Danny G. Hit the nail on the head with the word entitlement in the NBA.

[Danny G]

Oh, people love that word for younger people.

[Rich]

And King James being the league leader of entitlement.

[Danny G]

I don't know. He's put a lot in. Come on, he's been in the league such a long time.

[Rich]

I'm just reading feedback.

[Danny G]

He deserves some thanks for all your feedback.

[Rich]

At Covino and Rich. We're going to get to Andy Lee. Shout out to Len in Idaho. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. Fox Sports Radio with Covino and Rich live from the tire rack.com studio. It's holiday party Thursday. Yeah, bud. So some of our colleagues going to be buzzing tonight. We're going to come back with some stories tomorrow.

[Danny G]

Remember, not the time to ask your boss for a raise when you're drunk.

[Rich]

Yeah. Come on. Don't have some coof.

[Danny G]

Don't flirt with the random married person you work with.

[Rich]

At least, you know, not in front of people.

[Danny G]

Yeah, dip, dip away. Yeah.

[Rich]

Got to be big and discreet.

[Danny G]

And let's take two quick NBA phone calls. Then I want to talk a bunch of NFL. We got a big one tonight. Not the party. Packers, Lions. Very telling. Andy in Rhode Island. What's up, buddy? The ratings in the NBA are down 28%. Covino started the show by saying he blames it all on Steph Curry.

[Rich]

Kind of. Yeah. In a way. Yes.

[Danny G]

What's up, Andy?

[Ron]

Hey, Faizano.

[Danny G]

Hey. What's up? We're good.

[Dan Beyer]

Hey.

[Ron]

Hey. The way I look at it, guys, all these athletes, they're all out here kissing a lot of ass.

[Danny G]

Kissing ass.

[Ron]

They want to trade jerseys after games. They want to be friends. Outside of this, where's the rivalry? Where was Pedro thrown? Throwing heaters at Giz?

[Danny G]

Pedro throwing Don Zimmer on the ground.

[Rich]

Hey, Andy, you know, you make a good point. And here's why, right? Here's why. This is the art of competition is the world of sports where the whole point is to win, right? And even in our industry, I don't really, I'm not that close with other shows on other channels. Why I want to be better than them trying to beat them, Danny. Well, Denny, we're not in the world of competing in sports where there's a winner and a loser.

[Dan Beyer]

And even Covino has burner accounts where he comments on their shows.

[Rich]

Honestly, f those other shows, that's how.

[Danny G]

I feel deep down inside. I feel you, Camino. And I'll tell you why.

[Dan Beyer]

You're supposed to be competitive, Danny.

[Danny G]

When we came up in radio, I don't want this to sound like old guy radio, but when we came up the ranks, you weren't palling around with the competing radio stations.

[Rich]

So, right. The pop radio station was not friends with the hip hop radio station. The hip hop radio station didn't like the rock radio station. And no one, really.

[Danny G]

Now they're all in the same I Heart or Odyssey building, like, and they're all pals. Back in the day, if I worked at Z100 in New York.

[Rich]

And again, Rich, this is sports, though, which is. Which makes it worse.

[Danny G]

When I was on Z100, which is a big pop station in New York, you think I cared about KTU and Hot 97 and all the other stations?

[Rich]

No way you were trying to beat them.

[Danny G]

You know who changed this? Know who was the biggest wimp of all? All the Jimmy Late night hosts. Because Leno and Letterman hated each other. They all go on each other's shows like, hey, Jimmy. Hey, Jimmy. Hey, Jimmy. All the Fallon, Kimmel, Corden, they were all brought it up.

[Rich]

And guess what? All this is not the world of sports and competition, you know, so when you see this, in the world of sports, it's even worse, is the point. So, Andy, I get you Lee in Alaska.

[Danny G]

Lee, wrap it up and then we'll go old school. What's up, buddy?

[Ron]

Hi there. I have a suggestion for your four play, four point play and your golden bat in the NBA. In fact, you can put it in the NFL too, all right? Paint a box on the floor or on the stadium, and if you hit the if you shoot and make the bucket from the box, wherever they paint it, you can move it every four quarters. You get the four points. Take a person off the bench and they shoot and make it from the painted spot, the square on the floor, they get five points.

[Danny G]

Wow, this is too complex. But you know what nobody's comparing it to? Like at the home run derby. It's like if you hit a certain target or the money ball back in the day.

[Rich]

Hey, it's all silly, but it's still a game.

[Danny G]

No, let's do it. We do it every Thursday when 50 hits. There's a certain.

[Rich]

Yeah, what we gonna do right here is go back back into time.

[Dan Beyer]

Throwing it back for a Thursday old.

[Rich]

School when 50 hits at 50 after.

[Dan Beyer]

CNR give you the time capsule topic.

[Danny G]

And we reminisce together.

[Rich]

Yeah, this is cool. We want to get everybody involved. We do it every Thursday. 877.99 on Fox. Super producer Danny G. Sent us a story about Chi Chi's, the very famous Tex Mex food chain that I think most of us remember growing up. Chi Chi's.

[Danny G]

I grew up on Long island where there is no such thing as good Mexican food. I knew Taco Bell and then I was like, oh wait, the restaurant Chi Chi's, New York not known for their Mexican food. But I remember Chi Chi.

[Rich]

Chi Chi's does have another meaning in certain barrios. But it's a Tex Mex restaurant that. Here's what I didn't know. I didn't know why it closed down.

[Dan Beyer]

I didn't know that either till I saw this story.

[Rich]

It closed down following a hepatitis A outbreak two decades ago. But get this set to relaunch next year. The founders son said, you know what? I believe in cheat cheese and I'm bringing it back. And for nostalgic reasons, I kind of like that. I missed the days of going to like a TGI Fridays or you know, just that local chain. And Chi Chi's would be a fun spot to go visit. Remember on the border was another Mexican spot or like a Jose Tejas. I think Jose Tejas is still around. On the border came and went, but Chi Chi's is coming back. With that being said, what are some other restaurants, maybe other stores that you think should make a comeback?

[Danny G]

I'll tell you, I'll tell you one coming up that would not fly today, but I'll throw one out there now.

[Rich]

Go ahead.

[Danny G]

Bring back the Sizzler. Can we bring back the Sizzler, everybody?

[Rich]

The Tex Mex restaurant, Chi Chi's that we grew up with is coming back. It closed down, what, a decade ago, 22 decades ago. Two decades ago. Dang. From a hepatitis A outbreak.

[Danny G]

Last time you went to Chi Chi's, you had a startek.

[Rich]

I guess so, yeah.

[Danny G]

You paged your friends that you were.

[Rich]

There based on that. What are some other chains? Food chains? Maybe just a store. Could be anything, you know, that should make a comeback that you really wish would make a comeback. I don't just want to hear you spit out some nonsense like, yo, I really miss it. It would be great. And by the way, I mentioned on the border west in Vegas, said, no, there's still one in Vegas.

[Dan Beyer]

But sometimes Cove, there'll be like one last remaining place.

[Danny G]

Like the last blockbuster.

[Dan Beyer]

Exactly. Like here in Southern California. Pioneer Chicken. There's one left in the heart of la.

[Rich]

Okay, so my answer though, and I say this because I worked there and I would tell people, yeah, whatever. Yeah, f you too. I'm going to be a radio star. All right. I'm going to leave this place. F you. And yeah, if this guy, this guy's cool, I'm out of here. I'm going to go do radio people. Yeah, whatever, dude. Before I got into radio, I worked at Benigan's and I worked at Bennigan's for a while, but I believed in Bennigan's. Bennigan's was like Applebee's or chili famous.

[Dan Beyer]

For your sampler platter.

[Danny G]

Sampler. No, the best thing at Bennigan's was definitely the Turkey O'Toole. Turkey O tool. It was turkey on a pretzel roll.

[Rich]

It was so good. The money, Russian dressing, the Reuben, the, you know, it was big. The health club chicken platter. Their honey mustard was bomb. I worked there for a long time. I bartended there. I would love. Because I like that mid level restaurant. You don't have to get all dressed up. You weren't spending that much money. You're getting a decent bang for your buck. Had a nice bar, had a huge bar at Bennigan's. They did like a world tour. They had over 100 beers and you could, if you tried one of every, get your name on the plaque, right?

[Danny G]

Sounds like me. You're trying to bring it back right now.

[Rich]

Dude, I wish it did make it for investors.

[Danny G]

For investors. Well, you know, Tech Steve, Kobe.

[Rich]

A lot of times people work at places and they tell you how much they hate it. I worked there and I'm telling you it was a great place and it was a fun Time. I wish Bennigan's made a comeback. And the movie. What was the name?

[Danny G]

Cook?

[Rich]

Ryan Reynolds, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting based their movie on Bennigan's. They called the shenanigans in the movie. So Bennigan's was great. I wish it made a comeback.

[Danny G]

And I don't want your answer to be something bunk like, I wish Woolworth would come back. Do you really wish Woolworth would come back? Or Kaldor?

[Rich]

Right.

[Danny G]

I mean, our buddy Sean Weller who listens on the iHeart app out here in LA. Sean said Danny G. Might remember, because I don't. He goes, numeral, numeral. Uno. Pizza.

[Dan Beyer]

Oh, deep dish pizza.

[Danny G]

Like there was a deep dish spot. There's a couple left, but they used to be everywhere.

[Dan Beyer]

Like an old school. Blaze that style of that style pizza place, but it was deep dish.

[Rich]

Yeah, it's going to be different city to city, but, hey, if you say so, I believe you.

[Danny G]

I said Sizzler before. Yeah, I got one that. I know there's still a couple left, but they used to be everywhere. Maybe not on the west coast or Midwest, but there was an ice cream place, but it was a restaurant. Also. Friendlies.

[Rich]

Oh, yeah, with the fribble.

[Danny G]

The fribble. The ice cream sundae. You would get the kids. You would get a free ice cream Sunday.

[Rich]

Most of rest stops, they have friendlies. Friendly's was big, but not as many as there used to be. So, yeah, I'd like to see you come back. That's great.

[Danny G]

I got two more.

[Rich]

They had great dessert there, but you also teased us. He said there's one.

[Danny G]

There's one that won't test the time. Yeah, I got the one that won't stand the test of time. All right, but another truck stop, one that you might say there's like one or two left. I used to love, no joke, their bacon cheeseburger, their chicken, their salad bar. Roy Rogers, dude.

[Rich]

I miss Roy Rogers.

[Danny G]

Roy Rogers.

[Rich]

I used to love their nuggets and their sweet and sour South.

[Danny G]

What about their fixing?

[Rich]

Yeah, they're fixing.

[Danny G]

They used to call the fixings.

[Rich]

I'm with Rich on the Roy Rogers.

[Danny G]

Good fried chicken, too.

[Rich]

I wish they did make a comeback.

[Dan Beyer]

On the East Coast. Did you guys have a W? Root beer.

[Rich]

Yes. Yeah, but they're.

[Dan Beyer]

The far and far between were dope.

[Rich]

Yeah, but, yeah, like Rich said, they all started disappearing.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, I think there's one less left out near Palm Springs.

[Rich]

All right, so if you could bring one thing back, restaurant, store, what would it be? Dan Buyer I was just going to.

[Andy Lee]

Say to a W, there's still a bunch of them in the Midwest.

[Rich]

So it's all.

[Andy Lee]

Yeah, the drive up window that we used to be accustomed to about 40 years ago.

[Danny G]

But they're still around.

[Andy Lee]

Yeah, but they are still around.

[Rich]

Anything come to mind for you or. No, when you think back, just along.

[Andy Lee]

Those lines, if you want to throw. Aw, like I love Long John Silvers and there's just not as many of them around anymore. There's different parts of the country, there are, but out here they've completely disappeared. You used to even have the half and half of a Long John Silvers in a kfc. No more. Not on the West Coast.

[Rich]

That's why when you do see those few that remain, you gotta stop in for nostalgic reasons. Like, you know, when you come out here to la, in Burbank, there's a Bob's Big Boy. It's probably one of the only ones around.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah.

[Rich]

So it's sort of novelty.

[Dan Beyer]

You know what else? Burbank, California has an Orange Julius.

[Rich]

Yeah, exactly. And they used to be at every mall growing up in Orange Julius. So you see one, you gotta stop. But if you could bring it back rich before we go to the phone calls, 87799 on Fox, which is the one that wouldn't work today, you said.

[Danny G]

All right, I think a firm top three. I'm trying to figure out what three is, but Roy Rogers and Bennigan's I think are top level.

[Rich]

Yeah, I like those answers.

[Danny G]

There was a place we would go with my family. And you wage yourself.

[Rich]

It was a scale. I know you're talking.

[Danny G]

You paid what you weighed.

[Rich]

Kids paid what they weighed.

[Danny G]

Yeah, it was like, all right. Like, you know how Sizzler would do, like, hey, come in with your, your kids eat for free and you buy an $8 steak. Back in the day, there was a place called the Ground Round.

[Rich]

Wait, did adults pay what they weigh too, though?

[Danny G]

I remember kids, but, oh, I was.

[Rich]

Sam because I was a kid.

[Danny G]

Ground Round.

[Rich]

I remember the Ground Round for sure. It was one of my hometown.

[Danny G]

I remember. And I say this kindly. Let's say one of my siblings was a little chubby and we used to tease, tease them like, hey, not, not a group, not a great deal for mom and dad.

[Rich]

Yeah, nobody wants to get weighed before they go to eat.

[Danny G]

Odd thing.

[Rich]

So that was their whole campaign was pay what you weigh.

[Danny G]

You'd walk in, they'd be like the adult meal. Because keep in mind, this is the 80s and 90s so it'll be like $7 for your parents to get like a steak and potatoes. Your, your parents paid. Your kids would get on a scale and let's say your kid weighed 109 pounds. Would be a $9 for your kid and they'd write it down. That is damaging. In 2024, imagine weighing your kids like, oh my God. Therapist would be like, what are you doing?

[Rich]

You crushed her self esteem but you got a nice burger out of it.

[Danny G]

Are you sure? I could eat dead.

[Rich]

I got two more but I'm going to save them and go to the phone calls. But two more that I want to bring back in tribute in honor to Chi Chi that's making a comeback. Let's go to the phones. 87799 on Fox. Cavino and Rich. Want to start with Jack.

[Danny G]

Jack in la. What's up jerk? You're on Cavino and Rich.

[Ron]

Oh my God. That's so funny because my brother's a little husky. Right. So I'm over here dying. Sorry.

[Danny G]

Yeah, don't bring your brother the ground round.

[Ron]

There used to be a place in SoCal called Pups and Taco. Right? You did a tacos and hot dogs. It used to be super great. Yeah, they died out in the 80s.

[Rich]

It was a chain.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah. At least here on the west side it was.

[Rich]

You know, some chains again don't even last long. Like there was a point in New York City where Ranch One chicken was the biggest thing in New York City. There was millions of them. Right. Like out here in LA too. Like Pinkberry when Pinkberry was huge and all of a sudden they just fade away quick. People got, people were.

[Danny G]

People got way tired of that frozen yogurt Pinkberry real quick. You're right. They were everywhere. Ashton in North Carolina. What's up, man?

[Rich]

North Carolina.

[Dan Beyer]

Hey, Ashton, you there?

[Ron]

Hello? Can y'all hear me?

[Danny G]

Yeah, what's up, man? There you are.

[Ron]

Oh, what's up?

[Rich]

How are y'all?

[Ron]

Hey man, I just wanted to say there is a on the border still out here in Concord, North Carolina, right outside of Charlotte.

[Rich]

I haven't seen him in a minute.

[Ron]

Right. One restaurant I would like to say is. Is I'm gonna have to go with you, Rich Ben against man, you can't beat that. And I'm excited for the chichi's comeback. Thank you guys.

[Rich]

Same. I miss that style of eating and get together. I really do. But miss it.

[Danny G]

I'm going to quote you. This is something you've said and we've all said when people Say, oh man, I miss it. If they bring it back, then you better support it.

[Rich]

If they bring back Bennigan's, I'm getting a turkey o tool. I'm getting a, like Danny G said, a sampler with the potato skins, the chicken fingers, the wells wings, and it had mozzarella sticks, the cheese stick.

[Danny G]

You know what? Because people are usually full of it. They'll say things like, you know what? How did they let Twinkies get discontinued? It's like, well, when was the last.

[Rich]

Time you that was true.

[Danny G]

Ate a Twinkie?

[Rich]

Is the Toys R Us theory too? Like Toys R Us is closing? It's like, yeah, well, you're the one shopping on Amazon all the time, you big idiot. Yeah.

[Danny G]

Speaking of which, what about do we want to go back to KB Toys? Was that out here or no?

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah. And I would love more than just a pop up version of Toys R Us, Covino, because and Rich and DB they have youngsters. It would be great to bring your kid in and let them run around in Toys R Us.

[Rich]

It's true. You know what? My daughter just fell into that pocket and I'm glad she had that experience. And that magic of we're going to Toys R Us.

[Danny G]

The last big one in Times Square that closed when we were living in New York City was the one that had the Ferris wheel inside the Times Square location.

[Rich]

It sucks that they closed those down.

[Danny G]

I jokingly said KB Toys. My mom, who was here for Thanksgiving, we were reminiscing a little bit and she goes, I remember going to KB Toys and waiting in line to buy you double dribble. I'm like, you remember that Double dribble.

[Rich]

But you know why, Rich? Because that was the mall version of like Toys R Us that was in the mall.

[Danny G]

Kb, KB Toys.

[Rich]

What store do you want to bring back? And I love that answer too, because again, I feel like if you grew up with that, you just want that magic for your kids. And it's not like the toy aisle at Target's just not the same or that little pop up Toys R Us version they have.

[Danny G]

It's interesting you would say that because my kids are spoiled little. I don't want to say poop.

[Dan Beyer]

Squirts.

[Danny G]

Yeah, Squirts. Yeah, Spoiled little Squirts. And I'll go to Target. And I'm like, this is like the same three aisles. They know by now it's like Lego little kid Toys. And like Princess, just like Steph Curry.

[Rich]

Ruined the NBA, Amazon ruined Toys R Us for sure.

[Danny G]

Josh in Ohio, you're on with cnr. Chi Chi is making a comeback. What store would you want to see make make a comeback?

[Ron]

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call, as always. First of all, I want to say that I was employed at the Muncie, Indiana Chi Chi's when I was at Ball State when it closed out 2003. So I'm excited for the ultimate margarita to come back. My choice, though, is where my mother worked at in high school, and it was fine dining for us. Anytime we went out to eat, there is Ponderosa.

[Danny G]

The Ponderosa.

[Rich]

I have a few of those answers.

[Danny G]

They were all over Long island, where I grew up. The Ponderosa.

[Rich]

Great call, man. Thank you so much.

[Danny G]

Do you remember whether it's Sizzler, Ponderosa, Ground Round? I know Danny G, Dan Byer all have the same memory because we've all been to one of them. Do you remember when you were able for the first time to use the soft serve machine as a kid? Like, it was part of, like the, like, you know, you would buy the salad bar and at the end you're like, wait, I could pull down the lever as a kid.

[Rich]

It's a big moment.

[Danny G]

And soft serve ice cream.

[Rich]

And he brought up that ultimate margarita, man. Yeah. Another reason I'm excited for Chi Chi.

[Danny G]

We'll get one tonight.

[Rich]

I'll get one tonight.

[Danny G]

You know what? Ultimate?

[Rich]

We're getting Mexican tonight for the company party. What up, Ron in Rochester?

[Danny G]

What's up, buddy?

[Ron]

Hey. So Ponderosa, but Lums, Carols and Howard Johnson's. The three quick ones. Yeah, but so anyway, I was going to school at Northeastern University. Reggie Lewis is in my dorm. Freshman year, I was working at Benigan's. Ended up transferring to Syracuse. Go cues. Carmel Aniston. Come in. But hey, I know we have a delay, but let's sing the Happy Birthday song together. I was there in 1985. It's still in my head.

[Rich]

All right, we could try. You ready?

[Ron]

Birthday song on three.

[Rich]

Ready? One, two, three. Happy, happy birthday Happy, happy birthday that's why we're here to say hey Happy, happy birthday May all your dreams come true Happy, happy birthday From CNR to you hey, From Ben. It gets to you. Hey, look at that, dude. I love it. I miss those days. That was a lot of fun. Hey, Ron, thank you so much. Let's go to Ben in New Mexico. You're on the CNR show.

[Ron]

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I would definitely want the Pizza Hut buffet. Going to Pizza Hut. Right. On the Flintstones ride. $5, all you can eat Buffet Pizza Hut.

[Rich]

Yo. Someone pointed out the red plastic cups. Is that what you're gonna say? Yeah. Oh, dude, I'm sorry.

[Danny G]

No, you read my mind.

[Rich]

I'm so sorry, dude. Yeah, those.

[Danny G]

The plastic red cups for some reason are so crunchy, right? Yeah. That's synonymous with Pizza Hut.

[Andy Lee]

Pizza Hut has not done anything new for the last 25 years yet. That's all they do, is they throw nostalgia in our face. It's true. It annoys me so much because it was the best time. But you see what's his face from the office doing all those and he's wearing like a warm up track suit of the apron that you would sit at with the red checkerboard. That's all they do. They do the same stuff. They think their stuff is new. It's just pizza wrapped up in some different form. But they try to sell you now on the nostalgia because we all loved Pizza Hut 30 years ago.

[Rich]

You know why though, DB because when we were kids, that was a treat for us. We brought up entitlement. We brought up entitlement in the NBA and the entitlement of the players. There's a lot of entitlement with just us and especially kids today. I hate to say that because it makes it sound like old guys, but it's true. Because if you went to Pizza Hut, dude, you were so pumped about, that's a treat.

[Danny G]

When they now your kid has pizza.

[Rich]

Like four times a week.

[Danny G]

When they debuted stuffed crust piece pizza, I mean, that was a big moment.

[Rich]

All right, so I got two more that came to mind though.

[Danny G]

It was a big moment.

[Rich]

Before we move on again, Chi Chi's is coming back every Thursday. We throw it back old school when 50 hits. What are these chain restaurants or stores that you wish made a comeback? I got two more. When I worked at Bennigan's, the parent corporation owned another chain. So the higher end version of Benigan's was Steak and Ale. I don't know if people remember that, but I loved it. Steak and Ale was one of those places for me growing up was like the fancy steak place in my neck of the woods, but it was a chain. It had the salad bar to whole deal. And Rich, you're gonna know this one and love this one. They actually took Steak and Ale down in my neck of the woods, like Springfield, New Jersey, and they built the Famous Dave's. And Famous Dave's was for chain barbecue.

[Danny G]

That's still around, right?

[Rich]

But maybe still around. I haven't seen it in years, man. But man, I'M happy to know that.

[Andy Lee]

The one in Palmdale, unfortunately burned. Burned down. Yeah. Still big in the Midwest. I started in Minnesota.

[Danny G]

Famous Dave's. Stand by. I feel like there are times I'd go with, like, my high school or college girlfriend to the mall. And a lot of times we were attached to a mall.

[Rich]

Give me some of that sweet and sassy, that devil spit. I didn't know that was still around, but I'm happy to hear that. So, on a close front, by the way, just.

[Andy Lee]

Sorry to interrupt.

[Rich]

No, go ahead.

[Andy Lee]

There's a Famous Dave's in Vegas. You guys don't know this. I went three times during the super bowl last year.

[Rich]

No way.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Dan Beyer]

That's so cool.

[Danny G]

Yes. Because you know what?

[Rich]

You rarely see them, so they're going.

[Danny G]

To rename it Famous Dan.

[Dan Beyer]

That's going to be like us at Waffle House in New Orleans for the Super Bowls.

[Rich]

That's so funny, man.

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[Danny G]

I was saying for the first hour of the show, what do they have to bring you to the blue tent. I was in the blue tank. A little headache kind of came over.

[Dan Beyer]

Me, but I'm feeling much better.

[Rich]

I was.

[Danny G]

Sam had a migraine that I think most guys can only compare to, like, when their wife or girlfriend. Like, I feel like women get migraines more than men. That. I don't even know if that was a migraine. It was like, just a throbbing headache. I wasn't nauseated. It wasn't like, sensitivity to light and sound, but my head was just pounding.

[Dan Beyer]

And I needed a moment.

[Rich]

Thank goodness Mary was here.

[Danny G]

People don't realize we have a blue tent in the hallway. Just like an NFL sideline. We had Dr. Spot.

[Rich]

Yeah, Dr. Spot.

[Dan Beyer]

Dr. Concussion Protocol.

[Danny G]

I am weird. Why did Spot have gloves on? Anyway, let's go. Let's go to your feedback. Rapid fire. Then we'll go to DB for an update and we'll. We'll move along. But Danny G. On an old school throwback Thursday. Chi Chi's is making a comeback. Remember the old Mexican restaurant two decades.

[Dan Beyer]

Ago, they closed down because of an.

[Rich]

Outbreak of hepatitis A. Super dope about places like that. Chi Chi's especially, though. And our boy hit it before those. Those frozen drinks, man, they. They dominated with their frozen drinks and happy hour specials.

[Danny G]

Yeah, margaritas and daiquiris.

[Rich]

For real.

[Danny G]

They all had their special birthday songs, like you said.

[Rich]

Yeah, the special birthday songs.

[Danny G]

And, you know, we'll go to Noah in Maine first. So what old school restaurant or store would you want to bring back? What's up, Noah?

[Ron]

What's up, guys? You know, there's a lot of subscribers, places that are around, but I don't know about you, but I miss Quiznos. I love the good Quiznos sub.

[Rich]

I miss their mascot.

[Danny G]

Let me tell you something, man.

[Rich]

I used to. I used to stop by Quiznos a lot. It was just another good option. You would toast the sandwich. It was. I used to like it.

[Danny G]

Hold on. Quiznos was the best. I read up on this because I was like, how did Quiznos go away? They were far superior to Subway Jersey. Mike's blimpy. All of these Blimpy. I mean, but. But apparently they did a. They had a bad business model or plan and something went wrong. Because Quiznos was in the 2000s for a minute.

[Dan Beyer]

Was that why their price point got to where it was? Because I remember it being really expensive.

[Danny G]

They had a bad deal with franchising or product. There was some reason.

[Rich]

Socks.

[Danny G]

Because Quiznos I thought was far superior. Remember they had your sandwich went through that, like, conveyor belt.

[Rich]

Yeah, I do love it. One of our producers and editors here.

[Dan Beyer]

Ryan Burchinger, said there's a Quiznos in.

[Rich]

Downtown la and he had it at the Dodgers parade.

[Dan Beyer]

No, still a few left.

[Rich]

Quiznos fixed. You can get one downtown la. As far as I'm concerned, though, it's gone because I haven't seen him in a long time. What up, D.B.

[Andy Lee]

Yeah. As Sam's looking feverishly, there's one in the valley as well, so 405.

[Rich]

Just honestly, for nostalgic reasons.

[Andy Lee]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Might have to stop by. Rich. I used to love me some Quizzle sandwich.

[Danny G]

We might need to treat the crew to some Quizzle sandwiches for the holidays.

[Rich]

They have this little singing rats or.

[Danny G]

Guinea pigs that had the weird mouth and the guitar.

[Rich]

The weird Photoshop mascot they had wear well. How did times there. All right, we have to do a little bang, bang, bang.

[Danny G]

Yeah. Nate and Boise. What's up, Nate?

[Rich]

Hey, Nate.

[Ron]

Hey, guys. How's it going?

[Rich]

What's up?

[Danny G]

What are you bringing back?

[Ron]

Okay, so I grew up in the Antelope Valley, and they used to have Pioneer Chicken. I don't know if anybody's brought that up.

[Dan Beyer]

I did. Yeah, it was.

[Ron]

It was like the best place to go to when I was a kid. And then it just, like, disappeared. The last I heard, there was one place left in, like, Colorado, and it recently closed down.

[Dan Beyer]

There's one last one left in Los Angeles.

[Danny G]

1.

[Dan Beyer]

And O.J. simpson was famously on their TV commercials back in the day.

[Rich]

People need to. You know how people go on.

[Danny G]

How about chicken or I'll kill you?

[Rich]

No.

[Danny G]

Is that the slogan or. No.

[Rich]

But, you know, when animals are about to go extinct, we need to protect the pandas and everything. We need to save some of these places, man.

[Danny G]

All right. Gordy in Wisconsin. What's up, Gordo?

[Rich]

Hey, Gordy.

[Ron]

Hey, co owners. I can't believe I got on with you.

[Danny G]

What's up, man?

[Ron]

I'm an old guy, so probably you guys are too young to remember the Red Barn.

[Danny G]

The Red Barn. I don't know this, but I'll take your word for it. What type of place was it.

[Ron]

It was a cross between McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken because it had great deep fried fried chicken.

[Danny G]

There was a place that. There was a chain on Long island, chicken galore. There was like chicken places that would. I take a lot of the chicken places went away.

[Rich]

Boston Market is hard to find nowadays. You know, that was a thing.

[Danny G]

I used to love Boston Market. Some places was Boston chicken. But Boston Market, they were around, but.

[Rich]

They'Re hard to find.

[Dan Beyer]

Love their mashed potatoes.

[Danny G]

Maybe you would get like stuffing, cornbread, the turkey.

[Andy Lee]

I could taste their mashed potatoes right now as you talk.

[Dan Beyer]

Did you dip that candied cornbread into the mashed potatoes?

[Andy Lee]

Oh, delicious cornbread, yes. As well. I don't know if I'd dip it into the mash, but I would sure enjoy the.

[Danny G]

Again, you got to assume, Dan, by the bad business model or something. Because if we're all salivating at the thought of like Boston Market, dude.

[Rich]

What happened was a lot of these mid level restaurants. We talked about this on our Patreon show. The next generation came up and they wanted all these little like, like these artsy, fartsy coffee shop sort of restaurants. And they stopped going to places like Fridays. It stopped being a thing. And where our generation, after the movies, we'd be like, let's go to Fridays or let's go to.

[Danny G]

They're not doing that.

[Rich]

They're not doing.

[Andy Lee]

Got Chipotle is the first one. Like the five guys. That sort of stuff is pushed out, right? Yeah, those sort of restaurants.

[Danny G]

You know, it's interesting. I believe it's Chili's is now pushing a burger and they're saying their price.

[Rich]

Point matches fast food.

[Danny G]

They're saying our price point is on the level with five guys in the stand getting more fat burger in this to the point where it's like you might as well sit down. Their whole ankle is like, sit down and have a better burger.

[Rich]

They're trying to bring back a younger generation to that.

[Andy Lee]

I feel pizza now is considerably cheap. Cheaper than it was when we were growing up. Like we talked about Pizza Hut. It was like 20 bucks a pop for a pizza back in the day. Now you go to Domino's, you do any carryout special. It's like they're competing with the frozen pizzas, yo.

[Danny G]

You know there's two layers of pizza. Dan Buyer. As a, as a pompous pizza New York, New Yorker. When we were kids, a slice of pizza was $1.25. Now a slice of pizza in New York City is like four Bucks. However, as far as fast food pizza goes, you're right. You go to a kid's birthday party, Domino's does that. Like 6.99 for a medium pie, as many as you want. Like, you could cater your kid's birthday party for, like, 100 bucks.

[Rich]

Well, you know why? They're competing with Costco pizza, which is what a lot of families get for their birthday parties.

[Danny G]

Do AJ And Big justice say that the Costco pizza brings a boom, or.

[Rich]

No, it always brings a boom.

[Andy Lee]

I think one of my favorite things with all this, too, is the. When the restaurants go out of business and a new business takes over, but it's the still the same frame. Like an old Pizza Hut is now, like a realtor place. Like, you totally know. You're like, that was a McDonald's. That was a Burger King. That was a Pizza Hut.

[Danny G]

Was this an ihop, or did you choose a light blue roof?

[Rich]

Where we are right now used to be a Denny's. That's crazy. I've heard about that. I didn't know that, though.

[Danny G]

Oh, there's a moons over my Hemi in the corner rotting.

[Rich]

Dude, when we do one of the graduate hotels, we did a broadcast at was an old Howard Johnson nonsense.

[Danny G]

Yeah, you can tell.

[Rich]

And we could tell. We're like, wait, this is an old hojo. Hojo.

[Danny G]

Let's say hi to Rich in San Antonio. What's up, Rich?

[Ron]

Hey, guys. How's it going, man? I love your show.

[Danny G]

Yo, speaking of San Antonio, my wife's from New Braunfels. Chachos. Speaking of good Mexican chachos by the airport.

[Ron]

Oh, my God. Chachos is pretty good, but they only do drive through now.

[Danny G]

Yeah. By the way, their quesadillas like the size of your head.

[Rich]

Really?

[Danny G]

Yes.

[Ron]

Or the monster nachos.

[Danny G]

Yeah, yeah, that'll fill you up.

[Ron]

But, hey, there's a couple of places, and I don't know how they raid across the nation, but Frazzo, it was like fast food. Italian.

[Danny G]

Okay, okay. I don't know that well, but go on.

[Rich]

Okay.

[Ron]

And then in San Antonio, there was a place, man, 45, 50 years ago, GW Juniors, they had the greatest hamburgers in the world. And they were specialty before specialty hamburgers came out.

[Danny G]

Yeah, you know what? I assume again, it's always just probably a bad business decision. Like, quiz knows, like, if the place was loved. And it's either kids didn't like it anymore or a bad business decision. One or the other.

[Rich]

Times change.

[Danny G]

Yeah. Want to take one last phone call?

[Rich]

One last phone Call. Thank you, buddy. Who are we going? Ron.

[Danny G]

We're going to Ron in Texas, and then we'll go to D.B. what's up, Ron?

[Ron]

Hey, guys. I'm in New Braunfels.

[Danny G]

I love it. Schlitterbahn. My wife worked, was a lifeguard there. What's up?

[Ron]

All right. There you go. So I'm not sure if these guys were in the northeast or in the west coast, but Ponchos.

[Danny G]

You familiar with ponchos?

[Rich]

I'm not, no.

[Danny G]

I grew up in New York where we lacked good Mexican food terribly. Like when I tell you that's why Chi Chi's rung a bell with me. Because for sure it was like fast food, Taco Bell, or there was like one cheat cheese by Roosevelt Field Mall on Long Island. Like, and that was like the. It was like, that was fancy Mexican because, listen, there's just terrible. Now there's better Mexican on the east coast. But back then I didn't have guacamole until I was like 20.

[Rich]

Hey, maybe Chi Chi's is starting to trend. Some of these comebacks. We're yearning for nostalgia. And I hope showbiz pizza place makes a comeback like, Chuck E. Cheese bought that.

[Danny G]

I'm going to a Chuck E. Cheese birthday party with my son Sunday morning. And the animatronics have made way for like flat screen TVs. That's the only. There's only one place left that has.

[Dan Beyer]

The animatronic band was there at Chuck E. Cheese last weekend in the valley for my niece. And it was interesting being there as a grown adult. I haven't been there since I was a kid. You guys, one place here. I don't know if it was in other parts of the country, but Covid killed it. Soup Plantation.

[Rich]

Covid killed it.

[Dan Beyer]

That's the worst.

[Danny G]

You and other people that have worked here have talked about that.

[Rich]

That sucks. I've heard.

[Danny G]

You're not the only one. I've heard talk about Soup Plantation.

[Dan Beyer]

If somebody, if some investors brought it back, it would be jam packed.

[Rich]

All right, well, you know, and I.

[Danny G]

Used to go to a place in New York for soup every winter. And honestly, we were like little nerdy soup boys every day it's like, you want to go to Hale and Hardy. Did you guys ever hear Hail and Hardy?

[Rich]

Nothing for you.

[Danny G]

All right, well, listen, we got a great game tonight. I'm going to give you my pick for tonight's Packers Lions during over promised our bonus podcast. But right now I got the solar powered parlay. Let's go.

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[Danny G]

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I think it has to be a close game, though.

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[Dan Beyer]

So revenge game.

[Danny G]

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