The Best Of Covino & Rich

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd Episode: The Best Of Covino & Rich
Release Date: May 29, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. NBA Finals Ratings and Market Impact

Timestamp: 00:58 - 06:00

Covino opens the discussion by celebrating the Indiana Pacers' victory over the Knicks, highlighting the implications for NBA Finals ratings. He notes that smaller market teams like Indiana and Oklahoma City (OKC) may not draw high ratings compared to larger market teams, referencing historical data on low ratings in the 21st century.

Notable Quote:

Covino (03:33): "We don't need to beat around the bush. I looked it up. Worst ratings in the 21st century since the year 2000."

Rich Davis concurs, emphasizing that while competitive smaller market teams are beneficial for the parity of the NBA, they may not be lucrative from a ratings perspective.

2. Competitive Balance vs. Ratings

Timestamp: 06:00 - 10:00

Sam introduces a perspective that diverse championship contenders enhance the NBA's appeal, arguing that dynasties are tired and fans appreciate teams winning their first championship. This sentiment is echoed by Rich, who suggests that most fans are "sick of the usual suspects."

Notable Quote:

Sam (02:19): "There's no dynasties right now. I'm all for teams winning their first championship or, you know, first in a long time."

Covino challenges the notion that ratings matter, stating his disinterest in network metrics, while Rich emphasizes the importance of ratings for the sport's visibility.

3. Player Contributions and Team Performance

Timestamp: 10:00 - 15:00

The conversation shifts to individual player performances, particularly highlighting Halliburton's significant impact on the game. They discuss how a standout game can influence the series outcome, especially in high-stakes scenarios like the Garden.

Notable Quote:

Rich Davis (12:37): "But if the Thunder win tonight, they have to sit around for eight days because Game 1 of the NBA Finals is not until next Thursday."

Covino suggests that scheduling could benefit one side by keeping teams fresh, adding a strategic layer to the Finals dynamics.

4. Work-Life Balance for Athletes

Timestamp: 15:06 - 26:00

A heated debate arises over NFL player Miles Garrett’s decision to miss voluntary practices to attend an anime convention with his girlfriend in Japan. Covino defends Garrett's choice, emphasizing the importance of personal happiness and work-life balance, while Rich criticizes it as a lack of commitment and leadership.

Notable Quotes:

Covino (18:20): "Miles Garrett, you know, one of the best players in the NFL... he decided to not go to a voluntary."

Rich Davis (19:00): "He didn't show up for voluntary practices, it shows me they're not as hungry as they used to be."

The hosts explore the implications of such decisions on team chemistry, leadership perception, and organizational expectations.

5. Listener Interactions and Giveaways

Timestamp: 29:00 - 55:00

The segment shifts to interactive segments where listeners call in to participate in games and giveaways. A notable feature includes the "Words of Wisdom" game, where listeners must repeat quotes verbatim to win prizes.

Notable Quotes:

Rich Davis (49:52): "Common sense is like deodorant. Those who need it the most never use it."

Listeners like Patrick from Florida successfully repeat the quote and win a prize, enhancing audience engagement.

6. Midweek Major Sports Updates

Timestamp: 55:00 - 72:48

The hosts transition to "Midweek Major" segments, covering diverse sports stories such as:

• Connor Daly's Indy 500 Experience: Daly shares his urgent need to relieve himself during a race delay, highlighting the human side of high-stakes motorsports.

  Notable Quote:

  Sam (62:20): "Connor Daly revealed he had no choice to ignore the call of nature that struck him during the race."

• Tom Brady's Potential Olympic Comeback: Speculation surrounds Brady potentially returning from retirement to compete in flag football at the 2028 Olympics, challenging younger quarterbacks like Darrell Doucette.

  Notable Quote:

  Sam (63:03): "Tom Brady will be 49 at the time this takes place, his 50th birthday taking place just three days after the closing ceremony."

• Rise of Humanoid Robot Combat Sports: Introduction to robot fighting tournaments in China, drawing parallels to popular culture references like "Real Steel," and discussing the future of robotic sports.

  Notable Quote:

  Sam (66:08): "These robot battles provide a high pressure, fast paced scenario to test robotic structure, motion control and AI decision capabilities."

• Pablo Torre’s Investigative Journalism: Discussion on sports journalist Pablo Torre's obsessive pursuit of information regarding Coach Jordan Hudson, raising concerns about privacy and journalistic ethics.

  Notable Quote:

  Rich Davis (69:00): "This feels like tabloid journalism... something you read from the Inquirer."

Conclusion

The episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" featuring Covino and Rich provides a multifaceted exploration of current sports narratives, balancing discussions on team dynamics, player responsibilities, and emerging trends in sports entertainment. Through engaging debates, listener participation, and comprehensive coverage of diverse topics, the hosts offer insightful perspectives tailored for both avid sports fans and casual listeners.

Overall Notable Quote:

Rich Davis (30:22): "If you don't believe me, let's go to the phone call."

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Transcript

[Rich Davis]

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[Danny G.]

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[Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

Good News for the Indiana Pacers. You, you won last night and you prevented the Knicks from having a breath of hope because they thought, you know, Knicks win last night, you got a series and you're going back to the Garden. They put a stop to that right away. And I had a thought about this. Now we all know that the Indiana Pacers aren't ratings busters. It's not like okc. Okc, lighten up the numbers for networks. But I think by looking at past ratings, this might be the lowest ratings of the 21st century. Okc. And at the same time, it's good.

[Rich Davis]

For basketball to have some of these smaller market teams competing on this level and showing the parody of the NBA. But yeah, for ratings purposes, not so great.

[Covino]

What do I care about ratings? I'm not working for the networks.

[Rich Davis]

Ratings, baby.

[Covino]

Rating gold, baby. Gold. But I was, Sam. I mean you're a small market, small town Iowa boy.

[Rich Davis]

I will.

[Covino]

Boy. Small town Sam. Javier over there. We all agree that Indiana and OKC cannot be what the NBA wanted even a little, little bit.

[Sam]

No. And you but you know what I say to this is I don't give an S about the ratings because it's seven new teams in seven years winning a championship. It's a. There's no dynasties right now.

[Rich Davis]

Right.

[Sam]

I'm all for teams winning their first championship or, you know, first in a long time. First ever.

[Danny G.]

First.

[Rich Davis]

I would say most fans are sick of the usual suspects.

[Sam]

Yes, yes, absolutely.

[Rich Davis]

And the big market team ratings would.

[Covino]

Say otherwise because the Golden State warriors, when they were in it, ratings were high and Right.

[Rich Davis]

That's what I meant when I said good for basketball.

[Sam]

Bears nothing on me like the Ratings don't matter to me. I'll watch. I'm happy for those fan bases.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Who cares about the network's ratings?

[Danny G.]

Monsieur, do you have a Paul George jersey in your collection? Because he was a clipper.

[Rich Davis]

He was a clipper. I have a Paul George jersey.

[Danny G.]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

Like a shirt.

[Danny G.]

That's the jersey. The reason I ask, we know.

[Covino]

Has a Paul Reubens jersey.

[Rich Davis]

Rich Davis has a blue jersey. You can have it.

[Danny G.]

No, I don't. I don't want it.

[Rich Davis]

I'm never gonna use it again.

[Danny G.]

Paul George comes up. Cause there's a meme flying around that says it would be fun if the finals was OKC versus Indy. So we could say both our small market teams built on Paul George's desire to go to la.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[Danny G.]

That it's actually both teams built on his back.

[Rich Davis]

I know.

[Covino]

You know, I'm not going to play guessing games here. I'll just tell you. We don't, we don't need to beat around the bush. I looked it up. Worst ratings in the 21st century since the year 2000.

[Rich Davis]

Is this for the OKC Minnesota game? Because the Knicks games haven't been like that.

[Covino]

No, I'm saying if the NBA Finals likely will be OKC and PC.

[Rich Davis]

You know what it is. And Indiana people feel one way and do another. It's like Yankees, Dodgers in the World Series. Everybody rolls their eyes like, wow, Yankees, Dodgers. You don't say. But then the ratings show that people tune in.

[Sam]

Exactly.

[Rich Davis]

The casual fans are watching and everybody's excited. But the feeling, if you take the temperature of the public's opinion, morally, of course, orally. Yeah, it's the only one.

[Covino]

I don't know how you take temperature. I don't know how you take temperatures.

[Sam]

You can do the thermal scan on the forehead.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, for you to ask. I mean, there must be a debate.

[Covino]

Bend over.

[Danny G.]

Steven Rich's device takes batteries.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Most people, when you get the feedback, it's like boring. Dodgers, Yankees, come on. And when it comes to the NBA, not to compare sports because it's very different. But it is cool to see the smaller market teams show that it doesn't need to be the Lakers or a bigger market team.

[Covino]

We agree to keep out the 2020 bubble season ratings because that was a different type of time and ratings were, you know, skewed because of what we were doing.

[Rich Davis]

And watching people say it doesn't count anyway.

[Covino]

So we'll take away that.

[Rich Davis]

I disagree with those people, but go ahead.

[Covino]

No, no, I think it counted. Equally or maybe even more. I'm just saying for this.

[Danny G.]

Absolutely.

[Rich Davis]

I thought it mattered most. I was bored as hell.

[Covino]

For the. I'm saying for the purpose of this conversation. A regular year where there weren't, you know, people worried about a pandemic.

[Rich Davis]

Sure.

[Covino]

Since the year 2000. Give me your. I've been waiting for that. Thanks, Sam. Top three worst NBA ratings. Some of them are predictable. One of them was last year, by the way. Boston and Dallas, which just shows. I don't. Maybe viewership is just down.

[Rich Davis]

But last year, those are two big market teams.

[Covino]

Last year that was your third lowest, I think.

[Sam]

Monty, didn't we bring it up on Doug show last hour? It was like Spurs. It was spurs versus someone in the early 2000s.

[Covino]

Cavs.

[Sam]

So it was.

[Covino]

Don't worry. The people listening now, they don't listen.

[Sam]

To that one Bronze, first finals.

[Covino]

That's why I'm bringing it up again.

[Sam]

In case people didn't hear it.

[Covino]

It was LeBron's first finals versus the Spurs. It was a clean sweep. Spurs 1, 4 0. That was a bad one. That was 6.2 million people average watch. And the one that sort of proves this point that Indiana vs. OKC will probably be low because the lowest was Giannis and the Bucks. Millie walk a.

[Rich Davis]

That's what I figured.

[Covino]

And the Phoenix Suns.

[Rich Davis]

And the Suns. I was going to. Yeah. So you got the list of the last couple of, you know, finals. That makes sense. You know, by saying this though, you're also counting out the Knicks, counting out the Timberwolves. And who's to say, I mean, I agree with that, but who's to say that the Knicks don't come back to the Garden and play their hearts out? It's unlikely. It's unlikely that the Timberwolves turn it around tonight, but it could happen. You also have to say that if Halliburton plays the way he played last night, triple double, no turnovers, 32 points, 12 rebounds, 15 assists, 4 steals. If he has a game like that, Garden or not, it's over for the Knicks.

[Danny G.]

Also, those ratings and any rating concerns the big networks may have done affect us, the real sports fans. It affects the casual fans.

[Rich Davis]

That's it.

[Danny G.]

That's like my mom will only watch if it's a big time matchup.

[Rich Davis]

Yep, that's why a Yankees Dodgers is a big ratings boost, because casual fans like, no way. But. But the average fan is like, really? How boring is that?

[Sam]

I was excited about Yankees Dodgers, but I don't think the series itself was very good. Let's be honest.

[Rich Davis]

I'm just saying it sounds predictable. Right? So, as.

[Danny G.]

Did you not see Freddy Freeman's grand slam?

[Rich Davis]

That was great.

[Sam]

I'm trying to shed the bias.

[Rich Davis]

Cole, point to the first base.

[Sam]

I'm trying to shed the bias of being in la. It was not a good series. It wasn't because it was almost a sweet.

[Covino]

Have you not watched the documentary on Apple tv?

[Danny G.]

Did you not see Fat Joe's performance?

[Covino]

Did you not see Ice Cube prancing around Dodger Stadium?

[Sam]

All that is fine.

[Rich Davis]

How many times do you get these? And I hate comparing sports because again, like I said, they're all different. But when you have big matchups and big hype behind the matchups, you're always let down. It's usually the undercard that. That is the fight of the night. Right. So just because these are boring teams doesn't mean it's not going to be the greatest series we've ever seen.

[Covino]

I know what you're saying to the. To a sports fan, doesn't matter. But the networks rely on not just the sports fan. They rely on your, your Aunt Sharon to watch the NBA Finals casually. And if you know LeBron James or Steph Curry or, you know, a big old school superstar is in it, they'll watch. But Sharon probably has never even heard of SGA in her life. She probably thinks it's like a code for her Medicare or something.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, but you know what? You're not doing a show for my Aunt Sharon. The people listening to this would be excited just to see a great series of teams. Adventurous.

[Danny G.]

The Pacers are a fun team to watch.

[Rich Davis]

They are.

[Danny G.]

They like that when they lock down on defense and with that offense, they have their fun team to watch.

[Rich Davis]

They're a fun team to sort of get annoyed by, too.

[Covino]

And Butthead's really fun to watch. I'm sorry, I mean, sorry, not Butthead. I was thinking Chad Holgram.

[Rich Davis]

He's the coolest Thunder.

[Danny G.]

Same thing. They could lock their defense down and obviously they have a ton of scoring.

[Rich Davis]

But I do think the Thunder annoy the fans right now because of Shay Gilgis Alexander. Like, there is a side of it that people are not wanting to watch.

[Danny G.]

The touchy foul call.

[Rich Davis]

They think he's, you know, going for the foul and not going to score. Yeah, that's very noticeable, especially on the big stage right now.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And if you watch the game last night, the Knicks fought hard. I thought they fought hard, but just fell too short. They just lost the game. I thought they were coming back at one point. And just when you thought they were coming back, the Pacers shut them down.

[Danny G.]

And again, they could never get that one big stop on defense.

[Rich Davis]

Exactly. Couldn't get that stop. Pacers show they were better last.

[Covino]

That was the story of game four in the Western Conference final time.

[Rich Davis]

Minnesota. Every time Minnesota show some fight and might come back last night.

[Covino]

Yeah. But anytime Minnesota has showed any sign of, like, oh, they're within five, you know, again, Butthead Chet, you know, found a way to get a big rebound or Williams hit a three or, you know, Anthony Edwards was playing like ass that day.

[Danny G.]

So the T. Wolves also blew them out in the first game back in Minnesota. So they are capable. But.

[Rich Davis]

But blowout winds are hard to gauge. That was such a wire to wire. When it's like Minnesota, when they get tested, they seem to not be able to come out of it.

[Covino]

Do you want these things to extend or are you sort of like, I don't know. I do.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, as any fan, if you don't have a. If you're not a Pacers fan, you won't. You don't want to see another game. I do.

[Covino]

There's a part of me that's like. I don't know.

[Rich Davis]

I want the.

[Covino]

You ever see, like, I want the.

[Rich Davis]

Timberwolves to win tonight.

[Covino]

You ever see a squirrel or, like some woodland creature get hit on the side of the highway and it's limping like someone shoot it?

[Danny G.]

So much for that.

[Covino]

Someone just hit it.

[Rich Davis]

Someone just run it out of its misery. Yeah, like.

[Covino]

Like what? Are we going back to the Garden?

[Rich Davis]

The Knicks are showing. Fight. We're hoping the squirrels going back to the Garden fight.

[Sam]

Sorry to interrupt.

[Rich Davis]

No, it's. It's fine.

[Covino]

I'm being serious. Like, all right. For instance, Cove. If you're a Knicks fan.

[Rich Davis]

For real, they were in the game for the very. All the games. They were in the game. They lost 121, 130, 130, 121 yesterday. But they were. They.

[Covino]

They were close. To quote MC Hammer, look at these eyes, man.

[Rich Davis]

I don't like looking at you.

[Covino]

Look at me first. No, look at me in the eyes and tell me that if you're a.

[Rich Davis]

Knicks fan, it's weird looking you in the eye. You're all hyper.

[Danny G.]

Look at his size nine head, right?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I know.

[Sam]

His pupils are all tiny.

[Rich Davis]

He got crazy eyes.

[Sam]

Tiny pupils. Drugged out of his cord.

[Covino]

I hate you guys. No, but if you're a Knicks fan, are you pumped about a game five of the Garden when you're down three one. I'll be the first to tell you, I've been to a playoff game where my team is down three one or two zero. And you're.

[Rich Davis]

You're there, like, yeah, but we tune it. Why am I here? The beauty of sports is we tune in to watch the unimaginable, unexpected, the miracles. Like, if the Knicks were to come back. That's why we watch. Like, yo, can you believe that, dude? And they were down 3 1. Insane. It's not impossible to take one at the Garden. And it's one game at a time. Look, I hate to sound cliche. That's just how it is. So, again, rare to happen in basketball, but we've seen it in baseball. And they go back to the Garden. I think they got a shot. Or do you think it's over? 8 7, 7. 99 on Fox. I'm not saying a shot to win it. That would be awesome to see. Just for comeback purposes. I think they got a shot at the next game at the Garden.

[Covino]

The Knicks are favored by four and a half at the Garden on Thursday night.

[Rich Davis]

And I think tomorrow night, I don't know, I think they have a better shot than the Timberwolves tonight at the Thunder. So I think there. I think there's a deeper fork in this series than the Knicks.

[Covino]

I'll give you this. If the Knicks win tomorrow night, what it does, though, I guess you could say, instead of running over the struggling deer that you hit on the highway, if you want to keep it going, extend the life of the series, I guess there's something fun about. All right, well, then Saturday night, we have something to watch. Saturday night would be game six in Indiana. And then you're really locked in because you're like, oh, my God, if they steal this, then Game seven's at the Garden.

[Rich Davis]

So that's what you gotta hope for as the casual sports fan. So again, Rich is saying the Timberwolves and the Knicks are on life support.

[Covino]

Stick a fork in them.

[Rich Davis]

Should we stick a fork in them? Do we pull the plug? Do you call it a day? Or do you root for a few extra games just to give us something to watch, something else to root for? I think the Knicks were playing pretty tough. The Pacers just seem to be a little bit better, and they're hitting really big shots. Dude, Halliburton, we were talking before the game how it was, like, almost the perfect game, right? 32 points, no turnovers. He was hitting circus shots at the end, too, taking real deep threes in the zone.

[Covino]

I'm just. I'm just thinking about how.

[Rich Davis]

My point is he has to play like that again and again to beat the Knicks. The Knicks are tough. Well, do you think that he's going to play that good all the time? If he does, that's how legends are made. Then you just got to applaud the guy. But, yeah. Wow, that was amazing.

[Covino]

I'm thinking of everything.

[Rich Davis]

Doesn't matter who you're rooting for moving forward.

[Covino]

I'm thinking of every angle to try to stay interested, and I got one. If the Thunder win tonight, by the.

[Rich Davis]

Way, Halliburton's papa was there to watch the whole thing.

[Covino]

Oh, did he get anyone's face? He's good. He was good.

[Rich Davis]

I think he flipped the bird to Chalamet.

[Covino]

If the Thunder went tonight, here's Advantage east, because I. What did I say? I feel like OKC is just going to murder everyone anyway. If they win tonight.

[Rich Davis]

I don't know. I don't know if I believe that the way the Pacers are playing.

[Covino]

If the Thunder. Feel the Thunder. If the Thunder win tonight, they have to sit around for eight days because Game 1 of the NBA Finals is not until next Thursday. So if the Indiana Pacers and the Knicks battle for seven, you could say, oh, they get tired out. But that might. That might keep those teams, like, fresh and like their head in the right place. If a young OKC team sits around for eight days while this other series unfolds, maybe that is Advantage East. I'm just trying to think of a way that this finals is exciting.

[Rich Davis]

Plus midweek. Major, we do it every Wednesday. So Wednesday, that feels like a Tuesday. So we go over the biggest stories in sports and pop culture. Are they mid week and Major, we'll discuss.

[Covino]

All right, now, could we talk about Miles Garrett?

[Rich Davis]

Yes, please.

[Covino]

Because Miles Garrett, this is a story that Danny G. And I. Oh, by.

[Rich Davis]

The way, I had one last thing because I have my little notes here. I don't know what sort of scribble scrabble you got going on, but I take notes. Rich is playing hangman and tic tac toe and doodling doodle boy. I did want to point out that everybody's raving about Halliburton and geez Louise, he's playing big for real, so I can't take that away from him. But Siakam's also playing really great. He even had the post game interview last night, said lots of great things, and he's in a really great space. I think his performance gets lost with Halliburton Just playing. So lights out.

[Covino]

What are you writing down over there? What are you about to pass to Danny? Let me see that note. P.S. i'm horny. Shh.

[Rich Davis]

Give it back.

[Sam]

You want to share that with the class?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, give it back.

[Covino]

Oh, man.

[Rich Davis]

That was for the revolting blob, not for Danny. So anyway, it's Cavino and Rich. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. Siakam, Halliburton. These guys. Nice. Smith. They're looking unstoppable right now. But I think the Knicks could win one more game at the Garden. Give the hometown fans something to cheer about. Give Shala. What do we call him? Shamalama. Ding dong Timothy Chalamet something to cheer about.

[Covino]

And then again, it gives you something to watch Saturday night. It gives you that hope of, like, oh, maybe they'll force a game seven.

[Rich Davis]

And a side note, I don't know if you saw it, but Timothee Chalamet went on record. I think he did an interview on SiriusXM, our other stomping grounds where we play music. It was an interview on SiriusXM, I believe, where he said that he would do his next biopic if he could as Ernie Johnson. And they had a run in at the game, and he says to him, ernie, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a biopic of you, man. And he goes to Chalamet, you do. You made me the coolest grandpa that ever was. And they embraced and had a moment. Really cool to see. Total side story. Yeah, but regardless of the markets and.

[Danny G.]

Ben Stiller standing next to them the whole time, like, what about me?

[Rich Davis]

No one cares about Ben Stiller. But I think aside from the markets, I don't think you need big markets to have a nice battle in the NBA Finals.

[Covino]

Oh, no doubt. I was just talking about the general ratings for, like, the casual person.

[Rich Davis]

I know, man, but like I said, I hate comparing sports, but it's like sometimes the headlining fight is the weakest fight of the night, and it's the undercard that really delivers. No doubt. So it's all about the matchups, and we'll see what happens.

[Covino]

Now, Miles Garrett. Danny. From the minute I saw the story, I was like, yeah, everyone's going to see it my way. And of course, we start talking about this before the show. Danny and I completely disagree.

[Danny G.]

Yeah, you're wrong on this.

[Covino]

Miles Garrett, you know, one of the best players in the NFL.

[Rich Davis]

Wrong is Rich's middle name.

[Covino]

Miles Garrett, you know, the guy who is currently in Japan hanging out with his new girlfriend, and he decided to not go to a voluntary. By the way, could we emphasize that word, voluntary?

[Rich Davis]

Is it weird that when you see Miles Garrett, I always think of Mrs. Garrett.

[Danny G.]

Voluntary, but not voluntary. The coaches and owners want you there.

[Rich Davis]

Ah, yes, they do. No. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. People may have missed what you said because my Mrs. Garrett joke really slayed. So you might want to repeat that.

[Covino]

Yeah, please. Everyone was in their car. Everyone in their car was slapping their knee. Like, did he say Mrs. Garrett?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, man. I think of Mrs. Garrett too, bro. This guy's awesome.

[Danny G.]

Let's stop the show for a 1980s joke, right?

[Rich Davis]

So. So I actually back Danny up. It may be volunt, but, yeah, I think it's understood that you gotta be there if you're a leader, if you're.

[Danny G.]

A veteran and you're getting paid the most. In fact, what. What was Garrett's new contract from the Browns? Rich, do you remember?

[Covino]

I think it was 1 billion.

[Danny G.]

Close.

[Covino]

That's a good 90s.

[Danny G.]

Yeah, I mean, I. Maybe somebody passed him, but at the time, it was the largest contract for a defender.

[Covino]

But I look at it this way.

[Danny G.]

$100 billion.

[Covino]

I'm pretty certain that we live in a world now where there is a complete emphasis on work, life balance more than ever. Not just you at your workplace, like.

[Rich Davis]

Athletes and celebrities, Just everybody's excuse to be lazy, bro. It's because work ethics down the drain. So you're trying to justify it, like, I choose life. No, you're choosing to be a jerk. That's what you're choosing.

[Covino]

No, I. I mean, you're choosing because I choose life.

[Rich Davis]

No, it's because you chose to be an underachiever and you don't like your job. And that's why I feel like people really crutch on that as a reason for really putting in less effort.

[Danny G.]

Rich, he had months.

[Rich Davis]

All this quiet.

[Danny G.]

He had months to go travel, by the way. He had months off to go do this.

[Covino]

Keep in mind, I was the guy that did not have a problem with Aaron Rodgers chilling in Egypt last year. Because when you're a veteran and you've been there, done that, you're not a rookie. If they said, hey, we're doing some voluntary exercise at work, guess who doesn't show up? Colin Cowherd. You know why? Because he's like, I'm calling cowherd.

[Danny G.]

Yeah. And you and other people don't really appreciate that. And look at. Looking back at Aaron Rodgers. Maybe he should have showed up to get some rapport with his New teammates that were in the. That's the thing. The. It's a revolving door. It's new players, new coaches on the team every year. Right. So you're there to build chemistry and camaraderie. If you say, okay, he's always going to be ready to go. He's one of those players always in shape. It's not about him needing to go to be in shape. Okay, I understand that and I'm with you on that. But to go and be a leader, this, this argument Rich of yours, I don't get it. Because if our boss Scott Shapiro said, Rich Davis, I'm going to give you record breaking money for a broadcaster.

[Covino]

Oh, keep going.

[Danny G.]

And now I'm going to do a walkthrough for the show. You're on with the new people involved in people that used to be on the show. We're all going to do a walkthrough. I would like you to be there if you have other things that are more important, maybe, but I'd like you to be there. I think you would be there.

[Covino]

Ah, Danny, when you put it that way. But all right, how about this? What if it happens to be the same day as my kids school play to Miles Garrett.

[Rich Davis]

That's not what happens.

[Danny G.]

This is not.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, he was shopping for houses in Japan or whatever.

[Danny G.]

Anime awards show. That's different.

[Covino]

But the Anime award show clearly means something to the woman he's dating. And happy relationship.

[Danny G.]

That's not a college graduation like Alex. Cora. It's not.

[Rich Davis]

Nothing rhymes with a relationship, bro.

[Danny G.]

Yeah, Rich, I get the work life balance and I'm all for that. But if you're a leader on your team, you need to be there.

[Rich Davis]

I agree. And I learned this lesson at 8 years old, so I don't. I completely disagree with whatever Rich is about to say.

[Covino]

Then don't call it voluntary.

[Rich Davis]

Call it a mandatory meeting. Yeah, I agree with that.

[Sam]

How about don't call it voluntary if it's not?

[Rich Davis]

Okay, but like 8 years old I was playing little kids soccer, the Union Soccer league. Union New Jersey. And all the little kids show up for practice and getting ready for our first game. And I remember the coach saying this and it rubbed me the wrong way at 8. So if you expect me to feel any different at 48, you're not going to get it. Because I remember the coach saying, yeah, we have this other kid on the team. I'm like, well, where is he at? His name is Anthony. I'm like, okay, where is he? He's not going to come to practice. Let's just say he's very good. I was like, what, so he's better than us?

[Covino]

Let's say he's very good and he.

[Rich Davis]

Only showed up to the games. And you know what? Yeah, the kid was really good. And, yeah, we won the championship. And, yeah, we probably won every time that kid was on the field. But you know what?

[Covino]

We.

[Rich Davis]

Nobody bonded with that kid. Nobody at all. And nobody liked him. And honestly, it ruined the team chemistry because everyone's like, what does this guy think he's better than us? It's like the guy that backs in at his parking spot thinks he's better than you. What does Miles Garrett think he's better than you? Because he's getting paid more. He's part of the team. I just don't get it. I'm on team Danny G when it comes to this. Now there's. Hold on. We're also assuming everybody knows the story. They're not going to badmouth the guy. Dude, I'm bad mouthing my teammate 40 years later.

[Danny G.]

Yeah. And part of this, Rich, is because of the union's agreement with how many days out of the year the players are needed there to practice. Right? Nowadays, players work out on their own. If he was doing that, if he was off in another state, like, you know, some of these guys have private trainers and companies that do this for them. If he was doing that, I get it. But he's not. He's at an anime awards show.

[Rich Davis]

And this is when other people start looking at you like you don't have that same hunger that you used to have. This is where the crack starts seeping into the armor. Like, what's going on, man? Why is he not here? He used to be here all the time. And it's. And it's not a good look when you are being paid what you're being paid. Now, the backstory is this. The newest sports power couple may have launched at an event this weekend because Myles Garrett and his new girlfriend, Chloe Kim, are the new power couple, and they were getting cozy at the Anime Awards. And in a related story, Myles Garrett was posting on social media that, hey, Tokyo, Japan. I'm trying to buy a place here asap. Hit me up if you know someone. I have nothing against. Myles Garrett seems like a swell fella. He's a stellar athlete, very handsome, happy for his new relationship. Everybody's entitled to be happy in their relationship, and happiness is a major factor. But he's also getting paid lots of money. He's also part of a team and when he starts separating himself from the team, that's a me thing. And me things don't really vibe with a team game a la Aaron Rodgers. And he's still getting backlash even though he's not even a Steeler yet.

[Covino]

So I don't think it's so many layers.

[Rich Davis]

You brought up other radio personalities. I've worked with a lot of people who thought who they were and they didn't show up to the company Christmas parties. I'm not a fan of that. I hope to never be that guy Rich. And you say that, you know, these are the luxuries that, that being a veteran buys you. I think that's, that shows that you're not as focused and committed as you used to be. It's all the things that got you to that point. Now all of a sudden you abandon those things because you got paid.

[Covino]

I, I look at what makes you the best well rounded person, will have you deliver the highest quality product on the field.

[Rich Davis]

I look at, it's still going to be great. I'm not rooting against.

[Covino]

I look at it this way. A happy Miles Garrett is a better Miles Garrett. I look at it like if they said don't go to your award show with your girlfriend, you better be here, you clown. Then all of a sudden Miles Garrett's already starting the season being like, yo, these sons of your, they want me. I'm trying to re establish my relationship. I met a woman I love this life to football.

[Rich Davis]

That relationship's not paying him that sweet salary.

[Covino]

He's needed at this stage. There's only so much money you need. Life takes precedence.

[Rich Davis]

Then take a pay cut. If you're not going to be showing up. And that's nothing. You could insert any name. This isn't targeting Miles Garrett. He's a great player, he's a great guy. Has nothing to do with that. Has he ever not served anybody?

[Covino]

Has Miles Garrett ever.

[Rich Davis]

But you're a leader and you're a veteran and you're not there. This is a team game. This isn't an individual sport. So I guess you could say the problem does lie in what it's called a volunteer voluntary practice. But I think as a leader, it's almost understood and implied that you should be there.

[Covino]

Hey, monsieur, Sunday at 6am there's gonna be a voluntary FOX Sports Radio little instructional breakfast. Voluntary. Sunday morning, 6am you gonna go, oh, I have work. It's voluntary. It's, you know, no, I have work. I can't go voluntary. Hey, Covino, would you go to something that was voluntary, if it's no.

[Rich Davis]

But I also would never defend something I wouldn't do. And I would show up if I was getting paid like that and I was the leader in the clubhouse or locker room or whatever sport we're talking about. What's up?

[Sam]

Can I just say that whenever Miles Garrett goes to practice or goes to play a game, there's two things on his checklist. Sack the quarterback and stop the running back. And it's different for a quarterback. You're learning a playbook. You have new guys to throw to. You have an offense to learn. And being a defender, a defender like him and just being an edge rusher, your job is literally just sack the quarterback. And you make money to question Miles.

[Covino]

Garrett in any way as well, because no one's ever questioned his intensity on the field. He's one of the best players of this generation. And I know it's not just about Miles Garrett. What do you mean?

[Danny G.]

Before the contract, he literally said, I don't want to be on this team anymore. And he wrote a letter about it.

[Rich Davis]

Right. But then.

[Danny G.]

Money. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So you got all that fat money in your account now. Show up for the team, whether it's involuntary, voluntary, who cares? You're one of the leaders. You're one of the highest paid players.

[Rich Davis]

In the world, and they have a short shelf life. I mean, the guy's going to be retired in.

[Danny G.]

And it's not like they've had a leash on him every single day of the year. He's had months off to go do his personal.

[Covino]

Yeah, but that wasn't when the Anime Awards were, Danny. They were now. And if that's what he wants to do with his girlfriend. Listen, I learned a lot of lessons over the last five years, and one of those big lessons has to be that you could love your job then. I'll love you now. It might be a little different here. Fox Sports Radio. We have a great relationship with our bosses, but that. I mean, who knows if those bosses will be here in 5, 10, 20 years? I hope so.

[Danny G.]

Listen, I'm tweeting that out. Rich Davis says bosses have five years left.

[Rich Davis]

So look at.

[Covino]

Look at it this way. You choose work over personal. Well, does work always choose you? You see how the NFL cuts players?

[Rich Davis]

Are they paying him in a ridiculous amount of money?

[Covino]

It doesn't matter. He earned that money. He earned that money. They don't pay him.

[Rich Davis]

Because you're comparing, like, other people who were working as an accountant somewhere to What Miles Garrett does. The guy's getting paid, bro. That's a BS So if the dude. If the dude at the warehouse chooses to be with his family. Come on. He's not getting paid with. This guy's getting paid.

[Covino]

Guess what?

[Rich Davis]

He can't sack a quarterback.

[Covino]

He can't sack the quarterback.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, but you can't compare it. And people are going to notice these things. Look, what are your thoughts? This isn't anything personal on Myles Garrett. Not for me anyway.

[Covino]

If Miles Garrett.

[Rich Davis]

This is a matter of like, how does it look in your opinion, when superstars on the team, leaders on the team don't show up to these voluntary practices?

[Covino]

The Cleveland Browns should be counting their lucky stars that this guy decided to stay with this bunk organization.

[Danny G.]

Let's be real, he didn't have a choice. They refused to trade him. They flat out said, we will not trade you. And that's why they gave him that ransom that they gave him.

[Rich Davis]

And I never like anyone acting like they're. They're better than anybody. I think that's where you lose people. Honestly, I think it screams so many different things. He's not as hungry as you used to be, not as committed as he used to be. You're not as cool as you used to be.

[Covino]

I have a question. What if you asked every single one of his teammates and they were all like, yo, he's a leader in a.

[Rich Davis]

Bad mouth, the guy. That would be. That would also be counterproductive. You think they're pumped about it? You think the guy that's there busting his ass is pumped that the other guys aren't there?

[Danny G.]

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[Danny G.]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

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[Danny G.]

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[Danny G.]

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[Danny G.]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Sam]

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[Danny G.]

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[Danny G.]

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[Sam]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

Oh, the day thickens. I made a list of things that all make me feel the way that Miles Garrett's decision makes me feel. Now, again, it's not personal. Miles Garrett is a great player, but when he started acting this way, not showing up for voluntary practices, it shows me they're not as hungry as they used to be. How about the guy that doesn't go to the award show to accept his award? I'm here accepting on behalf of so and so. Thank you very much. Like, where's that guy? He's too good for everybody. That's how I feel. He didn't show up for his own award.

[Covino]

All right, fine.

[Danny G.]

That guy backs his car in a parking space.

[Rich Davis]

He does.

[Sam]

Sir Anthony Hopkins would rather be resting at home.

[Rich Davis]

How about the guy that doesn't go to his prom or doesn't go to the reunion? It's like, oh, you're too cool for everybody. You're too cool to show up. Didn't have a date, didn't lie. I don't like that. The guy who doesn't show up for his diploma. Rich always defends that guy. I'm like, dude, that was like, you're part of the graduating protesting. You're not going with. Exactly. You're so cool. You're so. Are you serious?

[Danny G.]

Yes. And Rich didn't learn his lesson. He didn't show up that last day to his radio job where they threw a party for him and he wasn't there.

[Rich Davis]

Exactly.

[Covino]

I also did. I also didn't go to my college graduation.

[Rich Davis]

Because he's wrong with you.

[Sam]

You put all that work in.

[Rich Davis]

That's what I'm saying, dude. Just recently, my daughter is the wrapping up of the school year. Right? She got a 4.0 and they were giving out awards.

[Covino]

No thanks to you.

[Rich Davis]

No thanks to me. And she's like, dad, I'm not going. I'm like, why not? She's like, no one's going. I'm like, yo, you worked hard. You're going. You're accepting your accolade. Don't be too cool to accept your accolade. Don't be cool to go to your. In your involuntary. Your voluntary practice to show that you're part of the team. Team sport, man.

[Covino]

Don't call it voluntary, then. Miles Garrett, go hang out and enjoy life with your new girlfriend. You're in love.

[Rich Davis]

Happy athletes have plenty of time to enjoy life.

[Covino]

That's so much more important than an ot.

[Rich Davis]

You're applying regular thoughts for a guy who lives a ridiculous life.

[Covino]

It doesn't matter to me.

[Rich Davis]

Same rules don't apply.

[Covino]

I feel like the same rules apply to family and friends, and those type of things are way more important.

[Rich Davis]

Target's just the job to them. It shouldn't be that way for a guy who's playing NFL football, who's playing a kid's game, getting paid millions and millions of dollars. How do you not see that?

[Covino]

You live one life.

[Rich Davis]

And you're right. If you're talking about Hank, it goes.

[Covino]

Back to a story we talked about last week when Alex Cora, manager of the Red Sox, sat out, skipped out a game managing the Red Sox because he wanted to make sure he was there for his daughter's college graduation and be there for the lunch and the dinner with the family. Because you know why? Life is more important than one voluntary practice. For Miles Garrett, to think any other way is ridiculous. Why call it voluntary if it's not really voluntary?

[Rich Davis]

It shows me that he's not as hungry as he used to be. Like I said, I don't want to keep repeating myself. But was he there previous years?

[Covino]

Yeah. Maybe he didn't have plans.

[Rich Davis]

No, that's what happens when you start getting too big for your britches. No, it happens. That's what happens when this is no longer your priority.

[Covino]

It shouldn't be your priority. Your family shouldn't be your priority.

[Rich Davis]

Then why are you paying him so much money? Because you expect it to be their priority.

[Covino]

No.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, my God, you're so wrong. Dude, if you don't believe me, let's go to the phone call.

[Danny G.]

And he's missed multiple practices.

[Rich Davis]

8, 7, 7, 9.

[Covino]

I'm sure he's gonna be really. I'm sure he's gonna be real slow to the quarterback this year because he went to an anime convention with the love of his life.

[Danny G.]

Well, with that line of thinking, punters and kickers shouldn't go to these things because, hey, all they do is kick the ball.

[Rich Davis]

Hold on. You know what this causes? Would discord be the word? Yeah, because if you remember the Mark Gastonau documentary, his whole. His whole responsibility was just, you know, go for the quarterback, Right? As an edge rusher. Quarterback. Quarterback. But how does it. How did his other teammates view him as a selfish player? Vibe the way they were supposed to. It was all about me. It was all about Mark Gastono. And they hated him. They didn't like him. Even years later, they had animosity towards him because all he cared about was what he. About what he was doing. No, not about what the team was.

[Covino]

Has ever said that about Miles Garrett.

[Rich Davis]

But it could apply the same way if you go on what Sam was saying before. Like, he doesn't need to be there because his. His sole purpose is about getting the quarterback, not about what the team is doing. That's the. That's a great way to rub the team the wrong way.

[Danny G.]

Also, Rich, there have been team reporters for the Browns that have said Miles Garrett frequently shows up late.

[Covino]

They should be lucky. They should. Really lucky. He plays for that crap organization.

[Danny G.]

So why didn't they just trade him?

[Covino]

Yeah, why don't they just trade him?

[Danny G.]

Well, I think you know the answer to that.

[Covino]

Because they want him. Stop it. You can't talk.

[Danny G.]

I understand. No, I understand. They want him, but that doesn't mean. So you're giving all the power to the player there, Rich. You are.

[Covino]

Then get rid of him. You don't want.

[Danny G.]

You own the team. I don't think you would feel that way, though.

[Covino]

Hey, I have a question. If you're a Browns fan, I'm. First of all, I'm sorry. Secondly, we got five quarterbacks. Secondly, do you want Miles Garrett on your team? The answer is. Oh, my God, yes. If the answer was no, you would have request. You would have took his trade request instead of making him, like, the highest point Paid defensive player on earth because he brings it when Sunday is here. No one puts in more effort than that guy. The fact that he wants to go to an anime convention with his girlfriend. Let him be. Leave Miles Garrett alone.

[Rich Davis]

It is.

[Danny G.]

It is interesting though. This is from pft. They say it's well known within the Browns that Garrett is frequently late to the facility. He has skipped mandatory team activities. He skipped mandatory ones, Rich. On multiple occasions. Writes Jason lloyd@the athletic.com but it said it's worth pointing out. Why is this coming out now after they just signed him to a record contract.

[Rich Davis]

And Danny J. I just want to make it clear this guy's living the dream. I have nothing against Miles Garrett. I said the same thing. We said the same thing about Aaron Rodgers last year. Gotta stay consistent on how you feel about these things. It's about this particular incident. Is he a great player? Of course he is. Do I think this is bad luck? Yes, I do. Simple as that. And that's just my stupid opinion. What's yours? 87799 on Fox. Let's go to Steve in Reno. What up Steve?

[Danny G.]

Hey guys, how are you? Hope you're having a great afternoon.

[Covino]

You too, man. Yeah, your name is making a big comeback because of Minecraft, huh? Steve's lava chicken.

[Rich Davis]

That was because of me.

[Covino]

No, not because of you. What's up buddy?

[Danny G.]

So Rich, you literally just said two minutes ago that Miles Garrett is giving his all to his team. So there was another defensive end that got a buttlo money. Not as much as Miles Garrett. He for a hot minute. Check my timeline. I believe Max Crosby signed his deal before Myles Garrett did. Max was like the highest paid defensive end for all of maybe 30 hours. Then miles Garrett got his. Max Crosby is the first in the building and the last in the building to leave every day. And he's the leader of that team and he's setting a tone for a team.

[Covino]

You know what that you know. You know what my favorite Dash Twain song is, Steve? That don't impress me much.

[Rich Davis]

Really. I don't know what your priority is.

[Covino]

Are a losing team and they're not going to win more because he's their last guy in there.

[Rich Davis]

Miles Garrett. His contract is a four year deal. He doesn't have plenty of life to live.

[Danny G.]

Rich. How do you turn around a losing record, Rich? By not caring and having leaders that don't show up. Because just by saying by throwing a team off, by off this topic by saying well they don't matter. They lose. Okay, we could say that For a lot of teams last year. That doesn't mean you don't want your leader showing up right now.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, just. I know that we're old as Miles Garrett. You know what?

[Covino]

You know what I say when I argue with my wife? And we can't agree, hey, Danny. Hey. Fair enough.

[Rich Davis]

Miles Garrett's 29.

[Covino]

Monty ever get hit with a fair enough? You like that? Women hate.

[Rich Davis]

He'll be 35 when this contract ends. He doesn't have plenty of life to live. Again, you're comparing, like, you're applying regular life rules to guys who don't live conventional lives, who live superstar lives. The same rules don't apply. The least he could do when he's making. What is it again? $160 million, 40 million per year. The least he could do is show up and maybe even take it east if he wants. But he's there. That's the least he could do. So, the end. Am I mad at him? No. Am I losing sleep over it? Not a wink. But that's how I feel about it.

[Covino]

I have a question.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah? What if.

[Covino]

Let's say it was Max Crosby instead of Miles Garrett? Let's just change the player. And Max Crosby missed a voluntary. Raiders walk through with the new coaching.

[Rich Davis]

Tell me why.

[Covino]

Because.

[Rich Davis]

Anime convention.

[Covino]

Tell me why. Because.

[Rich Davis]

Death in the Family.

[Covino]

Because Max Crosby said, yeah, it's my. My niece's communion, and I want to be there. It's more. It's important to me. It's my niece.

[Rich Davis]

I think. What? I think the reason why matters more. Anime convention holds no weight for me. None. Anime convention? If you're gonna go to a convention, at least go to Saw Con.

[Covino]

What? What? Saul Con.

[Rich Davis]

Look it up. Is that, like, can't say it on Fox?

[Sam]

Hanging out with all the people in the Saw movies.

[Covino]

Get it? Anyway, Snoop Dogg joke.

[Danny G.]

Yeah. Two more calls.

[Covino]

What's up, Adam? You're on cnr. What's up, buddy?

[Rich Davis]

Hey.

[Danny G.]

What's up, guys?

[Covino]

What's up, buddy boy? Hey.

[Danny G.]

This whole conversation reminds me of a famous line from Mad Men.

[Covino]

You guys fans of that show?

[Rich Davis]

Of course.

[Covino]

In fact, I'm loving Jon Hamm's new show on Apple TV is so freaking good. The finale. Danny G. The finale Friday is gonna be awesome. Go on.

[Danny G.]

Yeah, right. So there's a scene where Peggy, his subordinate, complains about working all nights, all weekends, after getting a raise, and Jon Hamm just looks at it and goes, stop it. That's what the money's for, man.

[Covino]

Listen, everyone's gonna have a different opinion on This. I just think that as life goes on, the one thing this generation realizes that previous ones didn't, and that's the importance of family and private time.

[Rich Davis]

You're applying regular life stuff. This guy doesn't live a regular life.

[Covino]

What if he wants to?

[Rich Davis]

Then don't accept one. $23.5 million guaranteed rich.

[Danny G.]

This money could take care of his grandkids. Grandkids. I think that's what makes it different.

[Covino]

But because he's so spectacular of a athletic human being, that disqualifies.

[Danny G.]

No, you have a different responsibility, though. When a company is paying you that much money, you just do. I'm not saying fair or foul, but that's how life is. If our boss came to me and said, I'm now gonna pay you as the top producer in the country, but I'm. I'm expecting a lot of you as a leader now, I would have to live up to that.

[Rich Davis]

That's not. When you slide. When you start doing less. That's weird, man. As a. Yeah. If you had a small business and guys start doing less all of a sudden, that's not gonna rub you the wrong way.

[Covino]

You gotta see what Joey thinks in Seattle. Joey.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, Joey.

[Covino]

What's up, buddy?

[Rich Davis]

Yo, what's up, guys?

[Danny G.]

Hey, thanks for taking my call, man.

[Sam]

Love you guys.

[Covino]

No problem. Thank you.

[Danny G.]

Hey, let's. Let's not forget, dude, this guy said.

[Sam]

Mason Rudolph dropped the N bomb and he didn't do. He's a scumbag. And what is he, like 14 year old Japanese girl? Anime convention.

[Covino]

Come on, man, show up. What is he, a 14 year old girl? By the way, anime. Not my thing either.

[Rich Davis]

Because it matters, man.

[Covino]

I do anything to do with anime, I'm like, who clicks on that? Not my thing. I just, I don't get it. But to him, if it's.

[Danny G.]

That's not true. I saw you slip Alex Teicher to 20 a couple weeks ago, and I think it was for some anime.

[Covino]

By the way, that's a, that's a topic in itself for, For a more boring day because we have a lot to get to. But Alex Teichert, one of the guys that runs the boards here for the Odd Couple, he grows strawberries at his house. And yeah, he. Because he's one of, you know, tie, shirt guy, carries on a blender.

[Rich Davis]

I thought he supported the local farms. I didn't know he grew.

[Danny G.]

Yeah, no, Rich, he gets them from a stand by his house.

[Rich Davis]

He does both.

[Sam]

He grows stuff in his backyard and he gets.

[Danny G.]

From local farms.

[Rich Davis]

So why don't we spice it up tonight?

[Sam]

I think that might be our only tai shirt.

[Danny G.]

I saw Rich give him a 20.

[Covino]

I gave him money.

[Danny G.]

He goes for illicit anime. Somebody.

[Covino]

I gave him money. He hasn't brought me strawberries, and I gave him a 20 like, four months ago.

[Rich Davis]

Nice.

[Danny G.]

I'm sure it was for strawberries.

[Rich Davis]

What are the decisions you're making, Rich?

[Covino]

All right, you know what? I'm done with this. I'm done with you guys, in fact. But you know what we could do right now? You want to do a little words of wisdom?

[Danny G.]

Oh, we have a swiggy to give away.

[Covino]

All right. This is, like, the most coveted prize. I've seen, like, trash radio prizes over the years. This is the complete opposite. This stainless steel swiggy is so nice. It's like a glimmery black. It's like the color.

[Rich Davis]

I don't use mine. I have it, like, on display at home. I don't use it. It's too nice to use almost.

[Covino]

You display a glass with your own name on it. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

I'm proud of it.

[Covino]

You're such an ego Dress.

[Rich Davis]

It's really nice. Yep. I mean, I keep it in a cabinet. Every once in a while, I open it up and look at it.

[Covino]

Do you have a portrait of yourself.

[Rich Davis]

In your living room in a Speedo? Yes.

[Covino]

So if you want one of these swiggies, the number is 87799 on Fox. And the rules are simple. You just have to repeat exactly what Big Mike says word for word, verbatim. It's something we do every Wednesday. It's Big Mike's words of wisdom. Let's do this.

[Danny G.]

It's time for the guy that runs this place. Just for clarification, guys, Big Mike does.

[Sam]

Not run this place.

[Danny G.]

He is not in charge of everything. He has no power over really, anybody here. He does not run this place. It's Big Mike's words of wisdom on a Wednesday.

[Rich Davis]

Common sense is like deodorant.

[Covino]

Those who need it the most never use it.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, man, that's an easy one. It's a good quote, Changes lives, but that's it. If you can't repeat that verbatim, you shouldn't be playing this game.

[Covino]

By the way, I just got word that Big Mike, who I guess sort of runs this place, is going to be live in Vegas with us for our big event, and he said he's going to do words of wisdom live. We're going to give away a bunch of prizes.

[Danny G.]

So now it's not really going to make sense, since the live broadcast is a Friday.

[Covino]

Yeah, but we can switch it around for him.

[Rich Davis]

He needed more incentive to visit us in Vegas. In fact, let me say this. We're doing a live broadcast. We're going to be there in Vegas at. Circa June 21st, 22nd, 23rd. I'm sorry, 20th, 21st, 22nd. And if you want to know all the details, we talk about it in depth on over promised episode 93 on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. So if you were on the fence before the fact that we'll be giving away more swiggies and Mike's going to be there. Jeez, man.

[Covino]

Big parties on Friday there.

[Rich Davis]

Miles Garrett is not going to be there Friday.

[Covino]

No, he's in a. Sorry, he won't make it. By the way, how do you feel like one of your family members can't make it? I have something that you don't deem important.

[Rich Davis]

Tell me why that's. I think that matters. And by the way, you're forgetting the major factor here. How much he's getting paid to be that guy.

[Covino]

What if his girlfriend's like, miles, this means so much to me. What is he gonna be like?

[Rich Davis]

No.

[Covino]

Voluntary Browns need me. This would mean so much to me.

[Rich Davis]

You know what? I was watching Tony Reali on the Dan Patrick show talking about his rules on the scoring system when it came to around the horn, and he said that he hated. He wouldn't give points. In fact, he'd give negative points. When people use the word optics, but it really comes back to that. Give me a synonym for optics. It's a bad look.

[Sam]

Perception.

[Rich Davis]

It's just. It sets a bad tone.

[Covino]

Tony. Reality. We hear minus two.

[Rich Davis]

I know.

[Covino]

Optics, it really is.

[Rich Davis]

Especially when you're a leader of the team. If you're a nobody from nowhere ville, if you're a special teams guy, I mean, who cares if you're there or not? But you're still trying to prove something. I get it. So you should be there.

[Sam]

I have a.

[Rich Davis]

But it's not going to have as much of an impact as Miles Garrett.

[Covino]

We've argued for a good half hour on this.

[Rich Davis]

I have.

[Covino]

We have like a. Sam, can you give us a solution here?

[Rich Davis]

I think it is optics, though.

[Sam]

Ask the. Orchestrate.

[Covino]

The.

[Sam]

The people organizing this anime convention. Just move it to rural Ohio. Yeah, that fixes everything. Because then you can go and he can be at voluntary ota.

[Covino]

There you go. I was Sam. You. I knew you'd come up with a solution.

[Rich Davis]

Thank you, buddy. All right.

[Sam]

To Ohio.

[Rich Davis]

Hop on. 87799 on Fox is the number if you want to repeat verbatim Mike's Wednesday's words of wisdom for a Swiggy. 87799 on Fox. And remember, coming up, we have midweek majors, so we're still going to go over the best stories in world of sports and pop culture.

[Covino]

Where do you want to go? You want to go to Michigan or Mississippi?

[Danny G.]

Michigan was first.

[Covino]

All right, let's go to Michigan. Oh, man, all the phones are lit now. Everyone repeating Mike's words of wisdom. Let's go to Pistol Pete in Michigan. What's up, buddy boy?

[Danny G.]

Not much. How are you guys doing?

[Covino]

Are you ready to repeat Mike's words of wisdom?

[Danny G.]

Now? You got to wait for the music that's going to make you sound very intelligent.

[Covino]

Hit the chime, Sam.

[Danny G.]

This is Sam on the pan flute.

[Covino]

Not bad.

[Danny G.]

Okay, let it simmer.

[Covino]

By the way, Sam, you gonna play the pan flute at our convention?

[Rich Davis]

Yes.

[Danny G.]

All right, brother. Go. Common sense is like deodorant. Those who need it most, don't use it. No.

[Covino]

Oh, he missed.

[Danny G.]

He missed a word.

[Rich Davis]

No, it's got to be verbatim.

[Danny G.]

It's gotta be verbatim.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

All right. Hey, thanks for playing, man.

[Covino]

I would be terrible. Terrible at this game. Appreciate it.

[Rich Davis]

Sounded right to me. I know.

[Covino]

They are very particular. Let's go to.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, that's the point.

[Sam]

It has to be particular.

[Covino]

Yeah, we don't want to go to Mississippi.

[Danny G.]

Yeah, Mississippi is next.

[Covino]

The old man. What's up, Brian?

[Rich Davis]

Well, we're good. Ready?

[Covino]

Let's. No problem, man. Let's hit the pan flute and let's see if he can do this. Go ahead. Oh, man.

[Danny G.]

It broke out on me.

[Rich Davis]

Those who need it the most. Oh, no.

[Danny G.]

Wow. Not as easy as people think.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Sam]

We've had a couple of times doing this where they've gotten it on the first time. So this is good. We want a little. We want some.

[Rich Davis]

It's got to be challenging.

[Covino]

I got it right.

[Danny G.]

Cliff in Kentucky, shame on you.

[Covino]

Fool me once. Cliff, what's up? Cliff, what's up?

[Danny G.]

And hang up on me because I didn't get to hear it all. I was trying to call in.

[Sam]

Oh, okay.

[Rich Davis]

What a fail. Cliff.

[Covino]

Oh, Cliff, I love you, buddy. Oh, my goodness. Hold on.

[Rich Davis]

I love that guy's notes and his bars, but not his phone calls.

[Covino]

His notes got you through high school.

[Rich Davis]

His notes helped me out. Cliff's notes, big time.

[Covino]

Bigly.

[Sam]

And the Sly Stallone movie Cliffhanger.

[Covino]

Today is the anniversary of that movie. Did you know that?

[Sam]

Oh, we're just tying it all together.

[Covino]

1993 on this day.

[Danny G.]

Wow. Florida is next.

[Covino]

I'm full of fun facts. Florida. Patrick, go ahead. Go ahead, buddy.

[Rich Davis]

Common sense is like deodorant. Those who need it the most never use it. You got it. There you go. That's the winner. My man. Coming, my man. Way to go, my guy.

[Danny G.]

Patrick, hang on the line. We're gonna mail out a shiny CNR Swiggy to you in Florida.

[Rich Davis]

Awesome. Thank you. Thanks for playing, man. That's how you do it.

[Covino]

It.

[Sam]

The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network.

[Danny G.]

Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan.

[Sam]

Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West.

[Danny G.]

I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as as Western historian Dr.

[Sam]

Randall Williams and best selling author and meat eater founder Stephen Rinella.

[Rich Davis]

I'll correct my kids now and then.

[Sam]

Where they'll say, when cave people were here.

[Rich Davis]

And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.

[Sam]

So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it.

[Danny G.]

Helps inform the ways in which we.

[Sam]

Experience their region today.

[Danny G.]

Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sam]

I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this Taser the Revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.

[Covino]

Cops believed everything that Taser told them.

[Sam]

From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season one, Taser Incorporated.

[Danny G.]

I get right back there and it's bad.

[Rich Davis]

It's really, really bad.

[Sam]

Really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2 and 3 on May 21 and episodes 4, 5 and 6 on June 4 ad free at Lava for Good. Plus on Apple Podcasts. In 1978, Roger Caron's first book was published and he was unlike any first time author Canada had ever seen.

[Danny G.]

Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted, has spent 24 of those years in.

[Rich Davis]

Jail, 12 years in solitary.

[Sam]

He went from an ex con to a literary darling almost overnight.

[Danny G.]

He was instantly a celebrity, he was an adrenaline junkie and he was the star of the show.

[Sam]

Goboy is the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. I had a knife go in my stomach, puncture my spleen, break my ribs. I had my guts all in my hands, only to find himself back where he started.

[Danny G.]

Roger saying is, I've never hurt anybody but myself. And I said, oh, you're so wrong. You're so wrong that one.

[Sam]

Rod from Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode I'm joined by Anjali Sud, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. How she's turning so called niche into mainstream gold. Connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content.

[Danny G.]

The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

[Sam]

Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide and hear how leaders like Angeli are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny G.]

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.

[Covino]

In a very big way.

[Sam]

Real people, real perspectives.

[Rich Davis]

This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.

[Sam]

It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne for.

[Covino]

Brothers Osborne, we have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is.

[Rich Davis]

Benny the Butcher, Brent Smith from Shinedown got be real from Cypress Hill, NHL.

[Danny G.]

Enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corps vet, MMA fighter Liz Caramouche.

[Sam]

What we're Doing now isn't working and.

[Rich Davis]

We need to change things.

[Covino]

Stories matter and it brings a face to them.

[Rich Davis]

It makes it real.

[Covino]

It really does.

[Rich Davis]

It makes it real.

[Danny G.]

Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino]

And to hear episodes one week early.

[Danny G.]

And ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.

[Rich Davis]

All right, you know what?

[Covino]

It's time. Let's do it. Midweek Major Covino and Rich gets you.

[Danny G.]

Over the middle of the week with midweek. Major.

[Covino]

Oh, I love that.

[Danny G.]

We throw sports and pop culture headlines.

[Covino]

And topics at the fellas and it's.

[Rich Davis]

Like the kids say, that's so mid week definitely.

[Sam]

Major.

[Danny G.]

CNR scoring midweek. Major. I gotta go fast to get spotty. Eight full minutes here. You hear the horns. That means you made it to the middle of the week. Before we hand things over to the number one and only host of the segment, we like to roll the two big red love dice over there in the main studio.

[Rich Davis]

I just rolled a fat seven. Craps.

[Danny G.]

Now time for a rich roll.

[Rich Davis]

Wow.

[Covino]

Nine.

[Rich Davis]

Little skinny nine, though. Nine Skinny.

[Sam]

What does that mean?

[Rich Davis]

Skinny nine, man.

[Sam]

Skinny nine.

[Danny G.]

Double talk Davis getting ready for Vegas.

[Covino]

Let's go.

[Danny G.]

All right. That means he gets first take. Ladies and gentlemen, the most popular person besides Judy Bloom from Scotch Plains, New Jersey. Spotty boy.

[Sam]

Guys, let's jump into this.

[Danny G.]

All right.

[Sam]

Hi. Indy 500 took place over the weekend and racer Connor Daly revealed he had no choice to ignore the call of nature that struck him during the race. So during Monday's victory banquet, Daly, who actually finished eighth in the race, revealed that a number one was the issue. So the race on Sunday was delayed 45 minutes due to weather, and he had to sit. They have to sit in their car waiting for the weather to change. And he said he had to go really, really bad and obviously they can't get out. So he said he just peed before the race began and sat in it. Can I say that I can, right? The entire race.

[Danny G.]

Race.

[Sam]

So, yeah, he revealed it was the first time he's ever done it. Hopefully the last time. He's never done it, but he said, you know, it's just had to answer the call of nature Midweek or major.

[Covino]

I think it's major. I mean, how often you have to soil yourself in at work?

[Sam]

I did it right now.

[Covino]

I mean, there was a pitch. You see this number one. There was a pitcher that recently made the last out of an inning. There was a picture that was to clean this up out of an inning. And he ran right to the dugout and I get it, man. It's gross. I know. It's tricky what we could say on the radio, so I don't want to misspeak. But listen, if that's the worst thing you got to do, maybe it's part of the job, right? People in M. It's mid. Mid, maybe.

[Rich Davis]

It's so major. Make your mind up.

[Sam]

Make your mind up.

[Covino]

Isn't it? Isn't it definitely major? Don't marathon runners do that all the time? Yeah. Also.

[Rich Davis]

Ernie from yeah, runners do do this all the time. And you said, dude, I find myself. I did say, doo doo. I find myself in these situations, just in road trips. So you got to travel with a pee bow, the pee bottle. You got to have the P bow on standby. I call mine Peeble Bryson. So having a standby, but in the middle of a competition like this, it's understandable. I get it. Like you said, people in track of meets, it happens. You don't have time to stop. No Time for love, Dr. Jones. No time for bathroom breaks. It's just something that comes into territory, I guess.

[Danny G.]

All right.

[Sam]

Tom Brady, as you know, has several accolades under his belt or around his fingers, whatever you want to say. But he may have his sights set on one more. As you know, NFL owners voted last week to allow their players to compete for the gold medal in flag football in the 2028 Olympic Games taking place right here in Los Angeles. Angeles. Well, sources close to Brady, Tom Brady, have said that he's looking to step out of retirement for the Games and bring the US for gold. Brady will be 49 at the time this takes place, his 50th birthday taking place just three days after the closing ceremony. And of course, you remember this guy, flag football QB Darrell Doucette. Remember, he's. He's the guy that said he's better than Patrick Mahomes. Well, he's chirping loud, but offering a challenge to Brady. He said, you know, he wants the team to win. If Brady wants to step in, if he can put up the numbers, if he's got the skills, he's willing to step aside and let Brady lead the team of gold. So we'll see, who knows, midweek or major?

[Covino]

It's major because it's Tom Brady. There's a part of me, though, that wonders if the young stallions of the NFL want to do this. Is it respect or a waste to have a with a 50 year old guy.

[Rich Davis]

Do it.

[Covino]

Like what if, what if Lamar Jackson wanted to do it? Or what if, you know, Jaden Daniels wanted to do it? Like, do we automatically give it to Tom Brady for all that he has given the NFL?

[Rich Davis]

I mean, you mentioned these NFL superstars and I think it's cool that they all want to represent the country. By the way, I think this is major as well.

[Sam]

Definitely major.

[Rich Davis]

Don't skip out on Daryl Doucet the third. He's the guy that built the league, built the team to this point.

[Danny G.]

Right.

[Rich Davis]

And now you're gonna look past the guy. I do think it's a, a different set of skills that he possesses as we watch. He's not Tom Brady, but he has a different set of flag football skills, I think.

[Covino]

All right, Liam Neeson, I got a very special set of skills.

[Sam]

He's got nunchuck skills, flag football skills.

[Rich Davis]

I think he does. I think there is a different scheme, so I don't think you would pass that.

[Covino]

Who wants to watch Duncan Doucette or whatever his name is?

[Rich Davis]

Daryl? Doubt.

[Covino]

Who wants to watch. You want to watch him or Tom Brady?

[Rich Davis]

I think he deserves the opportunity. Let them compete. I do like that part of the story. Right. He'll let him compete and may the best man win. But don't be surprised if it is Daryl Doucette iii.

[Sam]

All right, well, it was only a matter of time. I think they're coming for us. Boxing and UFC may have some new competition in the landscape. So a video has surfaced this week of humanoid robots. Yes, you heard that. Humanoid robots fighting it out at the China Media Group World Robot China, China Tournament Mecca Fighting series. Yes, that's a real thing. So according to the cmg, the tournament is the world's first combat sports event centered around robots. The robots, which were all created by the company Unitree Robotics, are currently controlled by humans in real time. I see here that currently, who knows. The robots are capable of straight punches, hook punches, sidekicks, aerial spin king kicks, and can even get up after being knocked down. But industry experts say that these robot battles provide a high pressure, fast paced scenario to test robotic structure, motion control and AI decision capabilities. Basically, they're training these robots to take over society.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Sam]

Mid maker.

[Danny G.]

Major.

[Covino]

This is major.

[Rich Davis]

Definitely major.

[Covino]

Danny, have you ever seen the NBA in the, the, the basketball shooting robot that doesn't miss? Yeah, I'm sure they do with field goal kicking. Like if there's robots talking about Jokic.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, the actual robot.

[Covino]

If there are robots, Frankenstein they could fight is that gonna be a big spectacle in the next five years. Like first human versus Robot boxing. Is Jake Paul gonna fight a robot?

[Rich Davis]

You know that?

[Covino]

Remember I said it?

[Rich Davis]

Yes. My response, I also think very major in a world where.

[Sam]

In a world.

[Rich Davis]

Just today, the rumor broke that Teofimo Lopez was scheduled to fight Devin Haney in August, but it was called off before it was even announced.

[Danny G.]

I'd rather see a robot than Haney.

[Rich Davis]

I'd rather. You know what? Yeah, screw it. Let these robots fight. I've often said jokingly rich. I'll watch bugs fight on National Geographic. I'll watch bums fight out on the corner here on Ventura. I'll watch any fight. So to think I won't watch two robots fight. I think that's awesome. The footage looks great and it reminds me of the BattleBots stuff we used to watch on G4TV. I think it was really cool.

[Sam]

There was that movie with Hugh Jackman called Real Steel where he was a former boxer that trained a robot boxer.

[Danny G.]

I forgot about that movie.

[Sam]

So this could. Honestly, if a boxer gets injured, he could put his robot in and just, like, train his robot.

[Rich Davis]

I think it's cool. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

[Covino]

My favorite robot's story since. Remember Rocky's robot? Happy birthday, Paulie.

[Sam]

Do you guys remember Vlad the. Vlad the impaler from BattleBots? The one that could not be stopped?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. This is that. But stepped up where they're actually boxing. Really cool.

[Sam]

All right. Well, seems the interest in the Bill Belichick Jordan Hudson saga has become one man's obsession. Have you guys been following this? So sports journalist Pablo Torre, who host Pablo Torrey, finds out you've probably seen him on around the Horn, has been focusing all his attention on this unfolding saga. So apparently Tory has made public multiple public interest public records requests to UNC's football program and says that if UNC is unwilling to comply, will actually sue the University of North Carolina. They have until this Friday to release the information. He also there. Remember that Airbnb ring camera video that was leaked where Belichick was on the porch shirtless? He got more of that video and has released that video online. He is really just going as far as possible.

[Covino]

This is major.

[Sam]

All right, you can take it.

[Covino]

Let me tell you why Pablo Tori, I've always enjoyed his, like, investigative, like, he, you know, he investigates fun, quirky sports stories. I think Pablo's a super talented guy, but you ever watch a crime show where the detective becomes obsessed with a case and it almost like there's chain smoking cigarettes and I can't get enough. I think Pablo Torre is almost bordering on, like obsessive now with this stalkerish.

[Rich Davis]

To the point where Jordan Hudson's like, yo, beat it, dude. Like she's responding back.

[Danny G.]

Isn't that what has fueled this latest thing, though?

[Covino]

But you know what?

[Sam]

Said that everything he says is factually incorrect, slanderous, defamatory and targeted.

[Covino]

But also Pablo Torre's getting a hell out of clicks and views and listens for this.

[Rich Davis]

Probably the motivation behind it, but I think it's. I think it's really weak, actually.

[Covino]

It is like that detective, though, Kavino in a show where they, they seem obsessed with it. That's how this is feeling now.

[Rich Davis]

I've always.

[Sam]

Charlie Day with the strings on the wall.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

I've always been a follower of Pablo Torrey and watched what he does on around the Horn. I've read his articles. I think this is way beneath him. This feels like tabloid journal journalism. Something you read from the Inquirer.

[Covino]

Something we would do.

[Rich Davis]

No, but I mean, Airbnb footage leaning into that, it feels like an invasion of privacy to me. Even though I don't know. Is that public? Once you step out of the house, how would you feel if your Airbnb footage was out there?

[Sam]

I hate that you guys have heard of the paparazzi. How about the Pablo Rots?

[Danny G.]

I'm not a fan of it. All right.

[Rich Davis]

I like Pablo. I. I just don't like how the lengths they're going.

[Danny G.]

Sam, play the rim shot on yourself, please.

[Sam]

I'm done.

[Danny G.]

Such a good segment. You had to end it like that.

[Covino]

All right. Thank you, Spot.

[Rich Davis]

I hate Pablo Tori. Pablo Tori sucks.

[Danny G.]

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[Danny G.]

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