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Jon Stewart
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Adnan Burke
What's up everybody? Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast. It's NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers.
Jason Demers
Jason Demers here, And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.
Adnan Burke
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Adnan Burke
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Bobby Bones
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Rich Davis
Let's rock out.
Steve Covino
All right, a lot to get to today. Should you be held accountable at your place of business? If you're an a hole fan in the stands.
Rich Davis
Oh, yeah, there's an eagle story we.
Steve Covino
Got to get to. Um, there's something we're calling the three year stink.
Rich Davis
The three year stink stank stunk. Plus the all do it for Johnny. Do you believe in it? We'll explain what it means to do it for Johnny. What does that even mean? We'll explain. Plus Showtime Mahomes trivia. We got Showtime Mahomes stopping by giving away prizes. So your chance to win here on the show again. I'm Steve Covino. Great to see you.
Steve Covino
You mean the new papa Papa Golden Mahomes. He welcomed a baby girl with Brittany. Congratulations to them.
Rich Davis
All right, congrats to the Mahomes family. And of course, that's Rich Davis. Let's welcome the buttery Danny G to the show.
Steve Covino
Yo, Danny. What up?
Danny G
Yo, what's up? Happy Tuesday, man.
Rich Davis
So Buttery and of course, Iowa. Sam. What's up, Sam?
Danny G
Are Tuesdays happy?
Rich Davis
Yes. We have topics. We're going to have fun today.
Steve Covino
Sam seems miserable. Yeah.
Rich Davis
What happened?
Steve Covino
Tuesdays, are they happy? You sure about that?
Rich Davis
Oh, yeah.
Steve Covino
We're going to feel to it.
Rich Davis
No, we're going to have a good time today. And of course, Dan Bott Meyer, the consummate professional has your updates. He'll be hanging out with us, but thank you. Fox Sports Radio Nation again, hit us up at Covino and Rich. Let's talk Sam Darnold to get it going. Of course. We got to talk Stafford the whole game. Hope you had an LA Rams sort of night. I had a feeling. Whoa. Sometimes I get a good feeling. I had a feeling that the Rams had extra to play for and they would play big. The Vikings had lost a little bit of confidence, but I did think that they would show up. More than that.
Steve Covino
This. This bothers me.
Rich Davis
And it's not all Darnold's fault. I want to make that.
Steve Covino
Listen, I'm going to defend Sam Darnold, but we are going to talk what the heck you do with this guy moving forward. But, oh, when he said this, I thought it was a beautiful Sentiment. So don't get it twisted. We live in la. A lot of destruction, a lot of sadness. But this is what Matthew Stafford said after the game we were playing for today. You know, it was. It was go get this win.
Rich Davis
But, man, it was really.
Steve Covino
People in Los Angeles struggling right now. It's been unbelievable to watch the whole community, you know, the state, the country kind of get behind them.
Rich Davis
It's.
Steve Covino
It's a tough time to be back.
Rich Davis
There, and we're just happy that we.
Steve Covino
Came out and played like this tonight to get, you know, something to be happy about.
Adnan Burke
Yeah.
Danny G
How do you think that what's happening back at home maybe somehow inspired you guys?
Steve Covino
Yeah, I mean, you know, we were living it every day. And, you know, it was.
Rich Davis
It was a.
Steve Covino
It was a tough week for us. A bunch of moving parts, organization did a hell of a job of taking care of us, getting us over here to practice, setting it up with families. I mean, it's been a whirlwind. And to come out here, play like we did and really, all phases. I'm really proud of this group. Did you add that emotional music?
Rich Davis
I did, just to prove my point. Okay.
Danny G
I thought he was going to start singing.
Rich Davis
Everything's better with emotional music in the background.
Steve Covino
But listen, you said it yesterday. Cavino goes, they're going to play for la.
Rich Davis
And I look in a game of inches, right? Every little advantage helps. And if they have something serious to play for, they all want to win. I do believe that. But they have that little extra on their mind, like, we got to do it for the city of la. We have to. You saw Puka Nakua cheering about it. He was all smiles, almost tears, like, we did it for la. Stafford did it for la. I call it the ol. Do it for Johnny. Let's do it for Johnny, man. We'll do it for Johnny. Now here's what Rich thinks. Rich doesn't believe in the old do it for Johnny. And I'm like, no. And there's too many examples where it comes into play. People play with that extra passion, that extra motivation that they need to push them over the hump. You saw the Rams playing big last night. The Vikings offensive line couldn't even stop them. They had nine sacks last night.
Steve Covino
It was an offensive line.
Rich Davis
It was an offensive line. My question, just to get it going, Fox Sports Radio Nation. Do you believe in the old do for Johnny? Do you believe in that Dojani? Because, Rich, you think what?
Steve Covino
I think that everyone's trying to do it for Johnny. Everyone's Got a different Johnny. Look at it this way. There are Vikings players that probably reside in Southern California, but they don't represent Southern California. Let me give you a dumb analogy. You know when you buy a car and you may have never seen that car on the road, and then you get that car and you're like, oh, my God, there's another Rivian, there's another Jeep, there's another, you know, BMW, whatever. Another one, another one. And you don't notice it until you have it. I think we notice these things when they happen because they're beautiful stories. But so many times there's someone playing for someone or something, and when it doesn't work out, you just move past it.
Rich Davis
What Rich is trying to say, and he said it many times, he thinks that there's no such thing as wanting it more. And I completely disagree. He's like, they all want it the same, and here's why. You could see it in the fight game. Everybody's fighting for a championship. Everyone's fighting for the bag or the heavyweight belt. Right. Some guys are fighting to survive, fighting to put food on the table, fighting to get their family out of poverty, fighting to change to family stars. And then there's other people fighting because it's the sport. You're going to tell me the guy fighting to get out of the barrio isn't fighting harder and stronger, wants him more than the guy who. Who was born with a silver spoon. They're just fighting because he likes to box.
Steve Covino
Did you just give me the storyline of Rocky 3? When Rocky got a little too complacent and he lost the eye of the tiger?
Rich Davis
Doesn't that prove the point? Rich is saying there's no such thing as wanting it more. They all want it. And I'm like, baloney.
Steve Covino
They're pro athletes. They all want it. Not Listen. Every team. If you wanted to dig for a sentimental storyline, you could find one. It's just the Los Angeles one is near and dear to us. We live here. We know people. We've seen things. It's been a terrible week and a half in Los Angeles. There's no doubt about that.
Rich Davis
Dude, if you don't believe in extra added motivation, then what? Rally cries don't help. Motivational speeches don't help. When they're getting in the huddle and getting people hyped up, that doesn't help.
Danny G
Yeah. You believed in that OMG song.
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Steve Covino
If that were the case, the Mets would have won the World Series.
Rich Davis
But that brought the team together, man.
Danny G
Yeah. And you, Rich, You've struck out on this argument before 2. October's agony go back in the CNR time machine here on Fox Sports Radio. You argued with us the day Dick Butkus died. And Covino said, do it for Dick.
Steve Covino
That's been his slogan since college.
Rich Davis
And Rich, I was just reading Rich's tattoo.
Danny G
Yeah, Rich, you said, nah, Chicago's not going to come out with extra effort for that. I don't know if these young players even know who Butkus really is. Remember?
Rich Davis
Yes.
Danny G
And then what? They. They scored 40 that night, won the game. Post game, the players were saying, that was for Butkus. And you came in the next day and you're like, okay, Danny, your Dodgers.
Steve Covino
Didn'T win the World Series for Fernando Valenzuela. They just happen to be a great team. And you know what? The fact that a legend passed away, it adds to the. The story.
Rich Davis
Yeah, but it's added motivation.
Danny G
And Chicago was not a great team in 2023.
Rich Davis
I'm not saying this is a. A foolproof plan that's undefeated. Of course it's not always going to work. Some teams are just better. But I think it could bring teams closer together, something to rally around. You're doing it for the fans. That dip. That Dick Butka story, that was a good one because Rich did make a point. These young players didn't even know who he was. But after the game, they're like, we did it for him. We know how much he meant to the organization, to the fans. Didn't they say. They showed us a bunch of his highlights before the game, so it got them inspired and motivated. I do think those little things work. They matter. You know, the Rams may have just beat him anyway, but the fact that they were playing for LA in a time of need, I think added to it. It adds to the story, no doubt. But I do believe in the do it for Johnny. And as I said yesterday, and I'll say it one more time, Rich, to me, one of the greatest examples was Brett Favre playing his biggest, best game the day his father died. Just more to play for. It was an escape for him to be in between the lines playing for his dad and put up crazy numbers on a magical night.
Steve Covino
Listen, do it for Johnny. I don't want to be the Joe Montana here. And by that I mean I don't want to ruin the Rudy story. You know, Joe Montana is one of my heroes.
Rich Davis
It's okay. But this is what you really believe. But if you believe it's coincidence. No, and that's fine.
Steve Covino
I Want to. I never want to be the buzzkill of fun. In fact, I'm the guy that wants to have too much fun.
Rich Davis
But I'm sorry, Charlie Murphy, I was having too much fun.
Steve Covino
I am. Sometimes I don't know how to not, you know, I don't know how to be serious. So the reality is, it's odd for me to have this stance on it because I don't want to be the Joe Montana that says, well, you know, guys, the team really didn't throw their jerseys on the desk for Rudy. You know, Rudy. It wasn't the movie was really inaccurate. I don't want to be Joe Montana and ruin the story. But for every Brett Favre who lost a family member and had the game of his life, we just don't talk about the guy who lost a family member and then had a crap game. You know what? Brandon Nimmo on the Mets, remember, his grandmother passed away. He found out right before a playoff game and ended up having what, like, couple hits, game winning hit. That's a great story, but If Nimmo went 0 for 4, we just would never have really heard the narrative again. It's like the, oh, wow, I got these new Jordans. I thought no one else had them. Then you see, like two other people have them.
Rich Davis
Let's leave it to the people. Fox Sports Radio Nation, we're calling on you. You make the call. Like the old school NFL tapes. You make the call. Do you believe in the old? Do it for Johnny. The fact that the Elliot Ra Rams pulled off a 279 victory over the Vikings.
Steve Covino
Wait, so Harbaugh and the Chargers don't care about la? They love.
Rich Davis
They were doing it for LA and you heard Stafford talking about it. Then there's always that magical story of D. Gordon. I know that's one of your favorite stories. How do you not factor that story into it? D. Gordon wasn't a home run hitter, but guess what? He was when he let off the game right after Jose Fernandez died. That was magical. That was brought a tear to everybody in the stadium.
Steve Covino
That was against the Mets. And I remember even the Mets players were in tears after.
Rich Davis
But Rich is saying coincidence, so I'm saying magic.
Steve Covino
So answer me this.
Rich Davis
I'm saying moments. I'm saying added incentive and motivation to get together and really come together for one cause, dude, aside from winning, everyone's there to win. They have that little extra.
Steve Covino
I don't want to be. I don't want to be Debbie Downer. What's the male version of that again?
Rich Davis
Negative, Norberto.
Steve Covino
Just saying. I don't want to be negative.
Rich Davis
Norberto, why you gotta be so negative?
Steve Covino
But to me, if your theory is correct, and Stafford and Puking, the KUA and Kyron Williams and these guys really were playing for all the people out here in LA that were struggling playing for a city. I get it, dude. I'm not insensitive. I live in la. I've seen what's happened.
Rich Davis
I don't think you're being insensitive. I think you're just taking a realistic approach to it.
Steve Covino
But by that thinking, by that thinking, the Charger should have whooped the Texans on Saturday. And my parlay was dead after that game. You know, Jim Harbaugh.
Rich Davis
Wait, are you saying Matt Stafford's a liar? I'm pretty sure. What was the first thing he said? Sam, can you play that one? Just right off the bat.
Steve Covino
We were playing for today, you know, it was.
Rich Davis
It was go get this win.
Steve Covino
But, man, I saw the people in Los Angeles. There it is.
Rich Davis
I guess you're saying he's lying then.
Danny G
Now, Rich, the Charger situation was slightly different because they went to Houston as scheduled. They didn't have the bid. Well, jet airliners picking them up and that stadium bending over backwards to help the la.
Rich Davis
Cause I still think of them as the San Diego Chargers. Anyway.
Steve Covino
Okay, so it's. Yeah, it's a little different, I'll give you that. You know why this theory was put to sleep for me 24 years ago? The year was 2001 1.
Rich Davis
But, dude, miracles don't always happen.
Steve Covino
That is true. I do not like, and I think I speak on behalf of everyone in this room except Covino.
Rich Davis
Green eggs and ham or the Yankees?
Steve Covino
I do not like green eggs and ham or the New York Yankees. The one time in my life, I'm a. I'm a. I'm a man. I'm 40. I'm a man in my 40s. One time as a grown man, have I rooted for the New York Yankees? It was when I was living in New York City after 9 11. And that's the one year they couldn't get it done.
Rich Davis
The one year they lose to the Diamond Match, Mo Rivera lets up a bloop single to Gonzo, and they win. That was a nightmare.
Steve Covino
I have a question, as a Yankees fan, would you have given up two of the other World Series for that one?
Rich Davis
No. I mean, things happen as they may, it was a heartbreaker. Everybody was pulling for the Yankees except for Arizona fans at the time. Yeah, but you can't Expect it to always happen, Rich. But there's so many moments and so many times where it does. You're not changing.
Steve Covino
You're not changing my mind. I'm just saying. I get it there.
Rich Davis
Are you saying Matt Damon was lying? Not Matt Damon.
Steve Covino
I'm gonna let you figure this one out. I don't know where you're going.
Rich Davis
Who. Hold on.
Danny G
Sam, can you play some on hold.
Rich Davis
Music never heard of? I got Matt Dylan.
Steve Covino
Matt Dillon.
Rich Davis
Matt Dillon. Oh, he's a liar in the movie the Outsiders.
Danny G
The lesser known.
Rich Davis
Yeah. How do you think the Greasers beat the Socials?
Steve Covino
Dude, I'm again, not trying to be a negative Norberto. I'm happy for, of course, the Rams in Los Angeles. It's a great story, but I don't think. I just don't think the. They outplayed the Vikings because they're. They're. You got a little heavy heart because of all the sadness here in la. I think they're just.
Rich Davis
All right, let me ask you this. When they were in the locker room trying to hype each other up, smashing helmets, hitting each other in the pants.
Steve Covino
What are you doing in the locker room?
Rich Davis
Right? Getting each other fired up for the game, what do you think they were saying to each other? I, George Foreman, guarantee. I, George Foreman, guarantee. What are you doing this for the city of la?
Steve Covino
Are you selling mufflers?
Rich Davis
Dude, so many people are. Are watching this game tonight. We got to give them something to cheer about. Let's do it for la. We're the LA Rams. We got to do for. I guarantee you that's what they were saying.
Steve Covino
You know what? If it was helpful motivation, I can't argue that.
Rich Davis
So anyway, your thoughts?
Danny G
You know what, Kavina, really quick. I wish the Lakers could have taken your sentiment last night. They lost by what, 20 to. To WEMBY and the spurs on Cooper induction night. And J.J. redick is a person who lost his home unfortunately in the fire.
Steve Covino
Reddick lost his home and they lost by 20. So again, it doesn't work all the time.
Rich Davis
Lost all. I heard his stories. Kids lost all their collectibles and jerseys.
Steve Covino
So sad Cove, answer me this.
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Steve Covino
Do you think this goes under the same category as bulletin board material? Because another layer of the Rams story was that. Did you hear how it. It got out then after the Vikings Lions game two weeks ago, when during the postgame little handshake, there was the sentiment of a see in two weeks. Oh, yeah. And that was a insult to the Rams. Like, what are they with the Lions? Just the Lions. And everyone thinks that, oh, they'll just match up two weeks from now against.
Rich Davis
I also think it's a matter of the Rams seem to be clicking at the right time. Right.
Danny G
I was going to say momentum in season adjustments made by Sean McVeigh. Yeah, he's always good at that. And the Rams always seem to click towards the end of the year when it matters.
Rich Davis
They seem to be clicking. They seem to be pumped. They made the Vikings look flat.
Danny G
Yeah, they're d. Had momentum going into this.
Rich Davis
We can't forget the fact that they got a total momentum call with that forward pass. My. I got to be PG here. My goodness, that was a ridiculous call. So again, they had calls in their grounding.
Danny G
Come on.
Rich Davis
At least intentional grounding.
Steve Covino
And don't forget, we got to remember how teams finish an NFL record. I'm not saying means nothing, but if a team has a slow start, do you think how they played in September really reflects how this team goes into the playoffs? The Rams, while their record only says 10 and 7, they finished, I'm pretty sure, like 7 and 1 in the last eight games.
Rich Davis
And they had that. The Vikings were coming off of a knockout.
Steve Covino
They had a throwaway Game Week 18 against the Seahawks where they didn't play their starters. So the Rams have played as good as anyone for the second half of the year. So that's something to think about.
Rich Davis
It's a simple question. If you don't want to answer it on the on the phone, you could always hit us up on social media at Covino and Rich and you could check out our TikTok while it's still up for five more days. Again, the question is simple. Is it. Is it coincidence moments like this coincidence? Or do you believe in the old do it for Johnny, you know, we have extra to play for.
Danny G
And then the second part. I'm looking forward to hearing your guys's thoughts on this. When I'm a fan and other fans of quarterback needy teams look at free agency, what is Sam Darnold gonna go for now?
Steve Covino
Man, did he just end up in the bargain bin with all the DVDs at Best Buy?
Danny G
I wouldn't say bargain bin, but it's changed things.
Rich Davis
Like he played himself out of 20 million.
Steve Covino
You know, I'm sure you have a couple on the top of your mind, but it's a little different. But you know, when a guy.
Rich Davis
I think he played himself out of Minnesota, for sure, that's what I think.
Steve Covino
Didn't JJ McCarthy tweet something cryptic, too? Am I wrong about that. Did I fall for some bait online? Like, he just. Nothing negative.
Rich Davis
Just like, if they got J.J. mcCarthy, they're not going to overpay for a guy who came up short when they needed it. You know, he had a good season but didn't win and didn't really show up when it mattered most. Is it all on him, though? That's the thing. It's not all on him. The Vikings played like ass.
Danny G
He got sacked nine times.
Rich Davis
He got sacked nine times.
Steve Covino
Some of those he could not have gotten away from.
Rich Davis
Yeah, dude, that was ridiculous. And again, the Rams did get some calls. They got some calls that.
Steve Covino
That.
Rich Davis
That was a straight up intentional grounding call that they reviewed and still got it wrong. So moving forward, all quarterbacks on their way down should just flick their wrist forward because he was not passing it to anybody.
Steve Covino
He did have the fumble that led to it.
Rich Davis
Let's get real.
Steve Covino
Touchdown.
Jon Stewart
Yeah.
Rich Davis
That would have been 10. 10, rich. That was a momentum killer right there for the Vikings.
Steve Covino
I saw the tweet that.
Danny G
Did you see the Latin phrase he tweeted?
Steve Covino
Yeah.
Danny G
Amor fatih means love of fate.
Steve Covino
You know what he's saying by that?
Danny G
Love of one fat.
Rich Davis
He loved fatties.
Steve Covino
No, he. It's. Oh, I thought he meant he likes fat chicks.
Danny G
Right.
Rich Davis
I thought he loved fat asses.
Steve Covino
Amor fat ass.
Danny G
No, give me more fatties.
Steve Covino
Amore fati. Translated into, like you said, love of one's fate. Is that JJ McCarthy's subtle way being like, yo, I was patient. And Sam Donald showed who he is, by the way. Yeah, he's injured.
Rich Davis
This is not a time to send cryptic messages at all.
Steve Covino
Amor fat. That's his way of saying amor fati is not that he wants more fat booties. It's his way of saying fate. Fate will have it that Sam Darnold showed everyone that he's Sam Darnold. And the plan is back. I'm your guy. J.J. mcCarthy. McCarthy for quarterback.
Danny G
Yo, the first comment underneath his post, the guy says, does anyone speak Spanish?
Steve Covino
Ridiculous. You know what? We're gonna take your feedb.
Rich Davis
Everybody's coming down on Darnold, and, yeah, he stunk it up that line. It really was the offensive line. It really was nine sacks.
Steve Covino
And listen, you could argue there are three or four times where I'm like, get rid of the ball. Like. Like, he does hang onto the ball a little longer than I'd like at times. But Stafford was under constant pressure. But as many people are discussing today on tv, radio, podcasts, what does this do to the future of Sam Darnold as a Viking, as a member of another team. Like the last two weeks, two bad performances in a row at the most inopportune time when you're fighting for the one seed. And then not only that, you don't even get past the wild card round when if you beat the Lions last week, you're sitting pretty. Think about that. The Lions win last week, right? They haven't even touched the football field. Again, the Vikings are out out. The significance of that week 18 Sunday night game and of course Sam Darnold lackluster on Sunday night and then over the weekend, lackluster again. Did that take Sam Darnold from multi year contract with Minnesota to hey, we're moving forward with J.J. mcCarthy. Did that happen in two weeks?
Rich Davis
It seems that way. And that's the feeling we have a day later. But you know a bad game where he got sacked nine times and it wasn't completely his fault. That erases the great season he had. Man, how fickle we are as fans.
Steve Covino
I said to you during the break, I go, they still were 14 and 3.
Rich Davis
Yeah, exactly. So how quickly we changed our mind on Sam Darnold if that's the case.
Steve Covino
And J.J. mcCarthy with that cryptic tweet amor fati and as you said before, give me.
Rich Davis
No, I mistranslated that Kavito thought it.
Steve Covino
Said he just wanted more fat booties. Now I thought, I thought I was.
Rich Davis
His New Year's resolution More.
Steve Covino
No, that's you in Jersey. A more fatty. So that just means essentially love of one's fate. And now you're saying is JJ McCarthy cryptic tweeting love of one's fate. And Danny, you and I were discussing does that mean his fate of he will end up somewhere else or the fate of Sam Darnold collapsed and it's my team again.
Danny G
Yeah. And I was thinking about it because a Vikings fan commented under his post and said love of fate. Are you happy that our team lost? And then I was thinking about it. I forget which talking head it was on tv. I watch a lot of sports. But he was saying that he felt like J.J. mcCarthy is better than any QB in the 2025 draft coming up. And we've heard a couple people say that and think that. Don't know if I would agree with that. But J.J. mcCarthy's a hot commodity right now. Right. If you're.
Steve Covino
You know, I saw that same clip Danny, so I wish we could give that.
Danny G
I know, right.
Steve Covino
But someone was saying how we're so quick to want to assume that this year's draft class is where you need to go. Meanwhile, what if a guy got drafted mid round last year and he just happens to be better?
Danny G
Well, and we've been speculating this on the network. We've heard it on TV, like I said. So you're telling me J.J. mcCarthy hasn't heard all of this and he hasn't seen how his own team has embraced Darnold? So. So maybe that's where some of this is coming from.
Steve Covino
Amor fatis.
Rich Davis
Shut up. You want to go to phones or an update first?
Steve Covino
Let's go to phones. Let's. Let's do a little rapid fire, then.
Rich Davis
We'Ll hit up DB all right, so the old. Do it for Johnny. And your thoughts on Darnold. 87799 on Fox.
Steve Covino
Bob in New York. Hey, Bob. Hey, guys, what's up?
Rich Davis
Hey, do it for Demar.
Danny G
The game.
Rich Davis
Right after demars, the Buffalo Bills run.
Danny G
Back to kickoff for a touchdown.
Rich Davis
Yeah. Don't you see so many instances where that happens? Or is it. Man, that was. That was insane. I can't believe what I just saw.
Steve Covino
I don't want to be a buzz kill.
Rich Davis
There's too many.
Steve Covino
I don't want to be a buzzkill.
Danny G
Don't you take anything away from Hamlin's story.
Rich Davis
But that's a good call.
Steve Covino
Someone once told me that it's psychological. Meaning if your grandpappy died on. My grandfather died on April 12. So there was a time in my life where everywhere I looked, at the clock, at a street sign, anywhere, I just saw 4:12. I was like, grandpa. And someone pointed out, the reality is your brain will make you almost over acknowledge that how many times has something bad happen and someone hasn't run a kickoff back the next game? Like we are. We're just, you know, taking the. The. These rare moments and making it seem like it's fate.
Rich Davis
What you want to believe.
Steve Covino
Again, not trying to be a buzzkill.
Dan Byer
Do you guys see New Jersey or New York license plates all the time out in California? But that, that's the same theory, right?
Steve Covino
Like, it's.
Dan Byer
I'm from Wisconsin. Sam's from Iowa. Like, I feel like I will always notice a Wisconsin license plate and think like, man, there's just a bunch of people. But I wouldn't recognize any of the other 48 states.
Steve Covino
If I see.
Rich Davis
If I see someone.
Steve Covino
If I see someone with a Syracuse University sweatshirt on or something out here in la, I'm like, oh, my God, how many times do I pass a guy with a Wisconsin or Maryland or.
Rich Davis
Because you're subconsciously looking for it. I get what you're saying. We call it the awareness theory.
Steve Covino
Yeah.
Rich Davis
It's like a word you never heard before. And then you hear it all the time. You see it on a billboard.
Steve Covino
It's a cherub theory.
Rich Davis
When. When. Hold on. Like when I remember when my ex was pregnant, it seemed like everybody was pregnant. I was noticing everybody's pregnant. It's like you just become hyper aware of these things, so you're looking for something to hold on to. A lot of times when pass. They'll see coins or birds and like, that's my grandpa talking to me. Like, you referenced Rich. I get it. Because you want to believe those things. But faith is believing in something.
Steve Covino
And I'm not saying. I'm not saying don't have those. Belief in faith. I'm just saying one might chalk it up to something else. And the cherub theory, by the way, is years ago. Kavino. I'm such a dope. We were playing the song Cherub Rock.
Rich Davis
Yeah. By the Smashing Pumpkins.
Steve Covino
And I'm an idiot. I'm like, what's a cherub? He's like a little cupid thing. Like a.
Rich Davis
By the way, Rich was a grown adult. He didn't know what a cherub was.
Steve Covino
And he's like, are you for real? Sounds like a vegetable. So he's like, sam, do you know what a cherub is?
Rich Davis
A vegetable?
Steve Covino
Well, I know like a cherubic face is like an angelic young looking face. And then, yeah, cherub's like a cupid. An angel face. An angel. And the minute Camino pointed out to me that a cherub is a little like angelic angel thing. For the next week or so of my life, everywhere I went, I heard the word cherub, saw something. I'm like, it's the awareness. And he jokes like you're an idiot. It's all.
Danny G
Now you have one in your garden.
Steve Covino
Yeah.
Rich Davis
We call it the awareness theory because you just become hyper aware of something that was always there, but now that you know it, you're like, oh, my God. So your thoughts. We're going to get to your phone calls next. So everybody, Bob, Jen, Eric, Dave, Mike, Manny, Moe and Jack, we're going to get to all your phone calls after Dan Byers update.
Dan Byer
What up, DB Guys, David Montgomery listed as a full participant in practice for the Lions. An estimated participation list, if you will. If the Lions would have practiced today, but Dan Campbell had said that Montgomery will return from his knee injury and play in the playoffs in the divisional round, and that is this Saturday night against the commanders on track to do so.
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Steve Covino
There was something sentimental when you like when, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now?
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Steve Covino
It's extremely pink.
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Steve Covino
You always hear us. If you want to see our handsome grills, Danny G. Wrote ugly mugs. Thanks, Danny. You can see the Fox News.
Danny G
No, I wrote something different to see if Covina would read it again.
Steve Covino
Oh, man.
Rich Davis
I know that you could see our clown makeup. With our own eye. With your own eyes. We're wearing clown makeup as we speak. Be sure to check it out at Fox Radio's YouTube page. Yeah, Rich just starts going on a blabbermouth rant. He's not even reading it.
Danny G
Rich started ad libbing before you could get to the copy yesterday. Rich, you said he'll read what is ever in front of him. You should write something out. So I did that.
Rich Davis
Rich, see us in our clown makeup. What do you mean?
Steve Covino
Because I am an ass clown that likes the Yankees.
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Steve Covino
Yeah, buddies.
Rich Davis
Now, before we get into the three year stink. What is the three year stink?
Steve Covino
Oh, we'll explain.
Rich Davis
We'll explain. We want to let you know that we have a game coming up. Giving away prizes. We do it on Tuesdays. Showtime Mahomes trivia. Stick around for that.
Steve Covino
Any final thoughts on Sam Donald before we move on? Did he. You know, it's. I hate to see a player. It's not that he bet on himself because he was on a one year deal. It's different. Sometimes a player bets on himself and it backfires. Sometimes the player bets on himself and it works out. This was not this case. This was a case where Sam Darnold was given a shot and it looked like, oh, wow, it's like Baker Mayfield all over again. Are you going to judge Sam Darnold on 2 weeks after 16 games?
Rich Davis
Unfortunately, as the Crystal Method said, that's the name of the game, Rich.
Danny G
They were the two most important games and they could have got the number one seed. They could have had the weekend off.
Steve Covino
Like I said, that game had such significance that the Lions haven't even stepped back on the field yet.
Rich Davis
They're chilling.
Steve Covino
Dan Campbell's, you know, having a mojito with his feet up and flip flops waiting for.
Rich Davis
Yeah, Washington. That was not how you wanted to go out after such a good season for the Vikings. And it's just so sad for the fans because they really had so much to cheer for this year. Only to end on that note. That was the weakest note to end.
Steve Covino
That's being a Vikings fan, though, if.
Rich Davis
You look at history. For sure. Yeah, Skull.
Danny G
That's why I. They probably need skull.
Rich Davis
And I'm.
Danny G
And I'm not talking to you, Scott, our boss, but Vikings Fans probably need 24, 48 hours to let things kind of calm down before they really unleash their feelings. Because online I've been seeing Vikings fans saying, let them walk. Just let them walk.
Rich Davis
Or as they say, you know the old saying, a two fat a. What's the saying? What is amore fat amor Fat.
Steve Covino
And translation is not I love fat booties. It's what JJ McCarthy put on social media, which is to trust fate, essentially, which is I love fate, baby.
Rich Davis
Games, though, cryptic messages Is this. Aside from teenage girls on TikTok, who else does that? JJ McCarthy. Cryptic messages after a major loss like that? That is lame, though. Dude, that kid is lame as hell. He's a kid and yeah, shows you how young they are. It really is lame, though, because you got so many moving parts, so many what ifs with the Vikings. You just lost a heartbreaker after a great season and you. You tweet something cryptic. Wayne, be sure to drink your Hobble team.
Danny G
In a way, Rich, they were playing with house money. We were one of the only shows I didn't hear on any other show him or her pick the Vikings to go to the playoffs.
Dan Byer
It's true.
Danny G
We did believe in some of it. Was. How would your dad say it? Covino. Yeah. Remember the day Shapiro was in here? We were previewing the preseason, which was about to start, and Rich and I were like, don't count out Darnold. And of course, Rich saw a lot of them in San Francisco, and we said, he's going to. He's going to throw a lot that might lead to the playoffs. I didn't hear that anywhere else. We saw people predicting the Vikings to maybe have four wins. They called it a rebuilding year for the Vikings.
Steve Covino
Yeah, they were just sort of waiting around for J.J. mcCarthy to take over. And, you know, Sam Darnold had other plans So I wonder if the Vikings will have a short term memory or a long term memory on how he performed. And do you put more stock in the two most important games? Like, is it, you know, do you say weeks one through 17 mean nothing compared to week 18 and wildcard weekend? So we shall see. But you know, it's interesting. I saw Nick Wright, who's over on the TV side of things on Fox Sports 1 FS1. He had a, he had a really interesting take on how he finds nothing embarrassing about failed predictions. And I sort of love this take because he said if you're gambling in Vegas, if you're an expert, like we're talking expert, where people pay you for your picks. Like top level, top tier guys selling their picks on social media. I'm so good at gambling, buy my picks. Those guys hit between 50 and 60%. No one in sports, radio, TV, gambling anywhere is ever gonna go more than like 60%. So of course you're gonna have terrible takes along the way. It's just a matter of like, do you try to hide them or own them?
Rich Davis
I mean, it's also how you present them. You don't know anything, but they present them like they do.
Steve Covino
Yeah.
Rich Davis
And I take great pride in being like, this is just my opinion. I'm not clairvoyant, you know, I can't predict the future. I don't know. I'm not Madame Ruby. And that's how some of those people come across, to be honest.
Steve Covino
The Alamo.
Rich Davis
Yeah, like, you know, you don't know. I see a bicycle and then there's accountability. That's often not taken after you just told me the day before that this was, this was how it was going to be. So, and I'm not calling out Nick Wright by any means. I'm just saying that's the culture.
Steve Covino
I mean, some of the best. Collins, Stephen A. You know, back in the day, how many times did Max Kellerman say that Tom Brady was done and he's a great dude. So it just, it's interesting. I don't know if anyone really predicted other than, you know, maybe a few. So we'll own it, Danny. We were one of the few people that I know that we were saying.
Danny G
Don'T count the Vikings and I'll give Colin a shout out. That's why a lot of people love his segment where Colin was right. Where Colin was wrong. Yeah.
Rich Davis
Take accountability. Because the truth is nobody knows. And that's the, that's the reason we watch sports, to see the unexpected, to see cool things. Happen.
Steve Covino
Trust me. I was the last couple of weeks. I'm like cold as ice when it comes to picking. I last night I was like vikings minus two, two and a half. That was a couple of your college.
Danny G
Your last two college picks it though.
Steve Covino
Yeah, that is true. That was a good parlay. Thank you, Danny. All right, well, listen, Sam, Donald, we'll see what happens. I'm sure a decision will be made sooner than later. In fact, our buddy Brandon, one of the great editors here at Fox Sports Radio, is a big Niners fan and he's thinking that Brock Purdy, they're going to get that deal done in the next week or so and all the, all the pieces won't fold. It'll, it'll before you know. And then you know the other story. I'm sure Dan Byers keeping an eye on Deion Sanders, meeting with Jerry Jones, like all these things. That's why, remember we said last year, the NFL even outside the games themselves, all summer, all spring, we're going to be talking about this stuff.
Danny G
Who would have thought three weeks ago that Sam Darnold may get less money than Purdy?
Steve Covino
Wow. Yeah, I mean, a ton. Like significantly.
Rich Davis
Things have. Yeah, things change quickly. Now our next discussion has to do with the playoffs. Has to do with Justin Herbert, as I heard on the Odd Couple. Justin Sherbert.
Steve Covino
Justin Sherbert.
Rich Davis
Justin Sherbert. And your thoughts on how do you know when someone stinks? Rich calls this the three year stink. I take it back to fighting. I often do, because you could lose an embarrassing fight. Like, man, did that guy even show up? Happens and you could lose a fight but still come out with a moral victory. Like when Berlonga, Edgar Berlonga fought Canelo. Yeah, Canelo won. He beat him. But Berlonga showed how tough he was. So even in a loss, he got some respect and showed that he's got what it takes. So you can lose with style. I think we saw two different versions of losses over the weekend. Bo Nix lost, but I think he had the moral victory of, man, that guy's got some game, yo. Denver's found their future. Yeah, he lost, but you're like, man, they're not ready. But he's good though, huh? He could battle. And then you see guys like Baker Mayfield, like, man, came up short. But dude, that guy fights. It's losing with fight, losing with style, losing with some pride. And then there's losses like Justin Herbert. And by no means are we the show to dump on Justin Herbert, but there's a different Feeling in how he lost. It could be the expectations that are involved. But Rich is saying, no, it's the three year stink.
Steve Covino
I'm not going on a Dave Portnoy two minute rant about how Justin Herbert stinks. He's the worst ever, by the way.
Rich Davis
I'm glad you brought that up. I'm a Portnoy fan. Right. Yeah, he's a good dude. We used to be on the same channel with the guy, but guys like him can create a power, a powerful narrative when really they're just talking about the money they lost. That's why he's angry about him. Of course, he did the same thing with Darnold. He lost, I think 11,000 on Sam Darnold. So now Sam Darnold's the worst ever. And then people run with that mindset. That's also very unfair. Dude, just because you put money on this guy doesn't mean he's the worst.
Steve Covino
But there are guys that come with an expectation and then there's guys that are a surprise. It's sort of like the bedroom.
Rich Davis
Oh.
Danny G
Oh.
Steve Covino
Sometimes you're lucky enough to find yourself in an intimate situation with a girl that's gorgeous.
Rich Davis
Sam. You need to pull up some like, sexy music or something. You need to have like a saxophone solo on standby.
Steve Covino
Sometimes sort of a letdown. You're like, oh, I thought that'd be better. And then there's times you find yourself with a girl that you connect with but might not be the most attractive. But then that was way better than I thought. It's all about the expectations going in, pun intended. And going into every season, there's a couple quarterbacks that were. Wait, we're just waiting for that, for it to click. And I'll give you two of them. Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence.
Rich Davis
Those are the number. That's number one. And number two, is there going to.
Steve Covino
Come a point where we consider either one of these just maybe not what we thought?
Rich Davis
And if you want to stick to your own theory, three years. Trevor Lawrence is at four years. He had a few playoff games, right? But he's at that level. He's the first guy that comes to mind. Too rich. And it does come with expectations. So what do you guys think about assessing a quarterback? Right. Some people have a longer shelf life, more opportunities, more chances than others. But at what point do you just say, yeah, man, they're good, but they're, they're not living up to their expectations and they can't seem to win when it matters?
Steve Covino
I mean, Herbert's Numbers are great in the regular season. Right. I mean, fantastic. In fact, this year, his best statistical year, but five years now he's a young man in life. I'm thinking, can you really start assessing? Because we've talked the other day about how with a coach, it's very fair for a coach, for a radio show, TV show, any, anything in the creative space or performance space, it's fair to say three years is, is a fair amount of time to be like, all right, this show never really picked up steam. This coach never revamped the program. This show never got ratings.
Rich Davis
Like, especially in a world where we live in a win now culture.
Steve Covino
Results.
Rich Davis
We want results immediately. You know, three years is plenty. And it's also like, wow. It's also shocking to see how some people get the more of a chance than others. Right. Because how many people would have been out already?
Steve Covino
But I also don't want to say that that works for everyone because Philip Rivers, Dan Marino, there have been great quarterbacks.
Rich Davis
They also played in a different time.
Steve Covino
That's true.
Rich Davis
We gave those guys more of a chance to develop. And I think we should give these dudes more of a chance to develop. But they seem to be the exception here.
Steve Covino
As you said, we live in a, to quote the comedian Ronnie Chen, we live in a prime now world where you order something, it's almost not good enough sometimes when it go, it's going to be here in a day or so. Day or so prime now I want it now. I want. But wait, my, my quarterback's a rookie. There were people that were like, Caleb Williams, Chicago, we ready to win now. Slow down.
Rich Davis
Well, you know why was hanging at.
Steve Covino
USC three months ago.
Rich Davis
Look at Jaden Daniels, look at Bonix. You do see guys, they're like, yo, they came to ball from the get go. So it does give you this false expectation that everybody could bring it that way.
Steve Covino
And there's guys that didn't even get a chance at the beginning. The Aaron Rodgers of the world. And then you say how many times I know it's, it's old now. They were, this is the 90s, you know, Peyton Manning stunk his first year.
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Steve Covino
But you know What? It's not 1998 anymore.
Rich Davis
Yeah. Joe Burrow, you know, he's a guy that's, that's delivering on his expectations.
Steve Covino
So when you talk about guys like Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert and young dudes around the NFL, Kyler Murray, when does the point come where you could assess that, hey, you know what? Maybe they're not what we thought. Or Danny G. Do you just have to accept that sometimes you have a franchise guy, he'll be your quarterback for a decade, but you just never get there? Because Bernie Kozar, Dan Marino. I'm just naming people. Philip Rivers. There have been guys throughout our life that were good, that just never won.
Danny G
I think inside the building, in your facility, you know the guys who are working very, very hard during the off season to get better because possible MVP for this season, Josh Allen. He had a bad first two seasons there in Buffalo. I'm sure they're happy that they were patient with him. His third season, he broke out with 37 touchdowns. But don't forget his rookie year. He had 10 and 12 with 12 picks, 20 and nine his second year. And I remember hearing the stories that he was working so hard to improve his accuracy and get in that third season. It took for him.
Steve Covino
The stories about Josh Allen, you ain't kidding, that sometimes you wonder, well, I mean, how much work could you really put in to improve your accuracy? Well, guess what? Look at Josh Allen. There were times where Magic Johnson. I heard the criticism. Free throws, right? There were certain layers of a guy's game. And you. If you have the ability to work as hard as some of these elite athletes, you can improve a part of your game.
Rich Davis
Absolutely.
Steve Covino
No doubt.
Rich Davis
Now, I'm not married to the three.
Steve Covino
Years, by the way, so if anyone. Dan Byer, Danny G. If you have.
Rich Davis
Another thought, like, I'm gonna add this to the list. Rich and I have a few questions that come to mind. One of them is like a painter. How does that painter know when the painting is done? How does he really know when you're saving someone's life? How do you know a few more pumps wouldn't have saved it? How do you know he was done? How do you know he's dead? For real?
Steve Covino
For real?
Rich Davis
Sure.
Steve Covino
How do you know what a song. That's the cut.
Rich Davis
How do you know? Yeah, maybe a few more hi hats wouldn't have made it better a couple more. How do you know if this quarterback stinks or not when you know he has all the potential in the world? Meaning you know, Justin Herbert doesn't stink, but he's not winning when it matters.
Steve Covino
But then damn by. Do you remember watching Last Dance like we all did, like multiple times during COVID Do you remember until Michael Jordan won an NBA title, the narrative started to become, can Michael Jordan not win?
Rich Davis
Yeah. Can he not finish?
Steve Covino
So at one point in time, at one point in our lifetime, there was a narrative floating Around. I don't know if Michael Jordan could finish.
Dan Byer
We grew up in a time and can Duke win the big one? They would go to the final four and they would always lose. Or it felt like they would always lose, but they were there a bunch of times and fell short. And then they breakthrough in 91 and the rest is history. Yeah, there's. I would say, to answer your question, you know when you know and you know when. And that's what I think hit with Darnold last night is. You know, you had all these other questions and everything, but you just know. And I don't think we do know what Justin Herbert just yet. But you know, when you know, Dan.
Steve Covino
You know, it's interesting. Covino and I, you could argue it's a crutch of ours, but I'm fine with it. I feel like there's so many commonalities with life and relationships because I feel like there's two things I feel like I know, and it's relationships and sports.
Rich Davis
Oh, and fake boobs.
Steve Covino
I could tell you what type they are. If they're real. Fake. That is another story.
Rich Davis
Rich is good at that.
Steve Covino
Yeah. Can't stump this guy.
Rich Davis
Or he used to be good at that.
Steve Covino
I'm the swami.
Rich Davis
I feel like he's losing it a little bit.
Steve Covino
Stop it. Gummy bear material. Anyway, so in a relationship, there are people you could date for years and you're still sort of like, I don't know, should I marry this girl? Is she the one? And then there's other times. I met my wife. I dated a plethora of women that I was unsure of. I met my wife. Yes, I say I met my wife. We were engaged within a year. She was my Josh Allen. You just knew. No, she was my.
Rich Davis
Hey, you know what?
Steve Covino
She was your Jaden Daniels. She was my Jaden Daniels. I was like. Like, I. I just know.
Rich Davis
So that's what. That's what you were getting at, huh, DB like, yeah, it's that feeling of when you know, you know.
Dan Byer
And I think that's the tough part about last night for the Sam Darnold supporters is I felt that you're like, yeah, they lost to two teams this year. They had four total losses, twice to the Lions, twice to the Rams.
Rich Davis
And. And by the way, I. I do want to make this clear, too. No one's, like, not rooting for Justin Herbert to be the guy he's supposed to be, you know, but you give people so many chances. It's. Look, three years is a lot in the NFL.
Steve Covino
But you know what? Now nowadays I made the silly analogy that if, you know right away, you know, my wife, she was my Jaden Daniels, I knew right away Danny G said, Josh Allen took a couple years to get there. How many times you met someone? They're like, my wife is my best friend. We've been together 20 years. You know, we were friends for years before we got romantic. That there's different ways to get there.
Dan Byer
Well, Dan, you know, Danny called the, the third season the breakout year, but when he said he threw 20 and nine his second year, that tells you something. That's not 15 and 14. Yeah, like there's like, okay, maybe he's on the track, maybe things have turned around and then you end up taking off. And I don't, I don't think three years is enough. And I know Sam Donald hasn't been in the greatest of situations, but yeah, I know last night was tough. It's not entirely his fault either.
Rich Davis
But I just, definitely not that offensive.
Steve Covino
Line didn't help him. But the last two weeks, he looked like the Sam Darnold in New York that was seeing ghosts.
Dan Byer
Sure.
Rich Davis
Yeah. Looked like he lost all his confidence. So Rich is calling it the potential three year stink. Maybe it's four year stink, but how many chances do you get in the NFL? And poor, poor Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, and Sam Darnold's fresh on the mind. So.
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Danny G
Hey.
Jason Demers
Hey. I'm Jason Immerse, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst. And boy, oh boy, does daddy have a lot to say.
Adnan Burke
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Danny G
Yeah.
Jason Demers
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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your base, basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you, and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it, and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.
Steve Covino
There was something sentimental. When you. Like when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart Now?
Bobby Bones
I don't like the color edition.
Steve Covino
It's extremely pink.
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Steve Covino
It is time for a little Showtime Mahomes trivia. Let's go.
Rich Davis
The mostly lovable Patrick Mahomes Truth is, I want everybody to love me, not just the reps. It's time for some.
Steve Covino
Some NFL trivia.
Rich Davis
I'm here. I'm here.
Danny G
Yes, we know you're here.
Rich Davis
All right, Patrick Mahomes here to play Showtime Holmes trivia.
Danny G
All right. FSR Security walking our broke Patrick into the main studio.
Rich Davis
Big Papa is here. Feeling good.
Steve Covino
Three kids, huh?
Danny G
Congratulations.
Rich Davis
And I'm going for the three. Pete, let's go.
Danny G
Three is your magic number right now.
Rich Davis
That's right.
Danny G
What was the. The weight?
Rich Davis
Wait, wait.
Steve Covino
Remember?
Rich Davis
Offhand now, I forget, but her name's Golden Mahomes, which is also One of my bedroom moves in the early 2000s.
Danny G
Yeah, I saw the picture of you palmin her like a football.
Rich Davis
Golden Mahomes, let me tell you. And by the way, Stafford got a Golden Mahomes call last night that was definitely intentional grounding.
Steve Covino
All right, you know what? What call bothered you more? That or when the the packers clearly recovered the ball.
Rich Davis
That's what I call weak sausage. Put some ketchup on that. Yeah, we're both terrible calls. Don't ask, but I like them. I like when they work for me.
Danny G
Yeah, I was gonna say don't ask them to critique his boys there, Rich.
Rich Davis
Yeah, those are my boys.
Danny G
We're meet the contestants. 24 time winner, Rich Davis right over there. 17 time winner Dan Byer.
Dan Byer
Hello.
Danny G
And looking to win a C and R stainless steel swiggy on our studio lines. Buyer, I'll use you for this. Would you love to travel to Man N A R R A G A.
Rich Davis
N S E T Gansett, Rhode Island.
Danny G
Yes, thank you. Cape Coral, Florida. Glendale, Arizona. Portland, Maine. Denver, Colorado or Dubuque, Iowa.
Dan Byer
Well, I. We have to go to Rhode island after the beginning, right? Yeah.
Steve Covino
Andy.
Danny G
Andy, what's up?
Rich Davis
Hey, Bisono.
Steve Covino
I'm here for the rematch.
Rich Davis
I'm here to take you down my home.
Danny G
All right. He's a one time loser. We're looking to win here.
Dan Byer
Must have gone to Rhode island before and realize it.
Danny G
All right, here are the rules for showtime. Mahomes NFL Trivia the first contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's a tie, we have a tiebreaker question. Your name is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move on to the next question. Are you ready?
Steve Covino
Yep.
Danny G
Let's get it on.
Rich Davis
All right. Patrick Mahomes. I'm here. What active QB has the second most career passing yards behind the enigma Aaron Rodgers? A Joe Flacco, B Matt Stafford or C Russell Wilson? Andy.
Danny G
Andy.
Rich Davis
I'm gonna go with Matt Stafford.
Danny G
Yes.
Steve Covino
You know how many yards that guy piled up? Like I would say meaningless second half yards when he was a lion. My goodness.
Danny G
Andy. Halfway to a swiggy as we move to round two.
Rich Davis
All right, round two. What was that once quote say quoted saying about Andy Reid? A Coach Reed has made it possible for me to unlock my NFL potential. B Coach Reed is a great teacher. He understands how people learn or see. Coach Reed is great. But when he tags along at one of the ref dinners that I host, it Gets really expensive.
Dan Byer
Dan. Fire. I'm gonna go B.
Danny G
Yes.
Steve Covino
All right.
Rich Davis
Great teacher. He understands how people learn.
Danny G
All right, so Andy and By are both on the board as we move to round three.
Rich Davis
All right, I'm here. Covino and Rich, what's up? Best show on the radio.
Steve Covino
That's what I'm saying. Thank you, Patrick.
Danny G
Yeah, he sounds like a paid guest.
Rich Davis
I'd love an amazing book for the kindergartners. Which former player wrote the children's book Little T Learns to Share? A, Lawrence Taylor, B, Todd Gurley or C, Terrell Owens?
Steve Covino
Rich, Andy Rich. Didn't Terrell Owens write that?
Danny G
You are correct, sir. Boom. Three way tie.
Steve Covino
I love a good three way. Let's go higher.
Rich Davis
And it's agreed.
Danny G
Clearly a CNR fan there on the phone. Andy, Beyer, Rich, all on the line. All on the board as we move to round number four.
Rich Davis
All right, round four. Which team holds the 26 game record for the longest losing streak in the modern NFL era? Is it A, the Cleveland Browns, B, the Detroit Lions or C, the Tampa Bay Bucks?
Dan Byer
Dan.
Danny G
Andy Buyer for the win.
Steve Covino
You are not quick enough, Andy. We gave you a beat. We gave you a beat, Andy.
Dan Byer
Tampa Bay.
Danny G
Yes.
Rich Davis
Bam. Tampa Bay Bucks, 76 through 77 again hold the 26 game record for longest losing streak.
Danny G
Congratulations. That is 18th. That's the 18th win for buyer. And Andy, we appreciate.
Steve Covino
How many squeakies do you have on your desk?
Dan Byer
I got one for you, Andy.
Rich Davis
Guys, building a clubhouse out of swiggies.
Danny G
Thank you for listening there in Rhode Island.
Steve Covino
Big appreciate you, Andy.
Rich Davis
All right, guys, money on me over the Texans or what?
Steve Covino
No, no, I mean, yeah, sure.
Danny G
You're not very good against the spread. Patrick, come on, man.
Rich Davis
It's been a good week. Golden Mahomes. Golden Mahomes.
Steve Covino
Seven and a half, eight points is the current draftkings spread.
Dan Byer
Can I, can I say one thing?
Steve Covino
Yeah.
Dan Byer
Because Andy was magnificent. Truly magnificent.
Rich Davis
Andy Reid. I agree.
Dan Byer
I, I, I want weighted scoring on swiggies. I know I'm bringing up this. You I've not. But when you bring it to the show, like there is a responsibility, like we're solely basing it on wins and knowledge. But when you bring it on the show, it adds so much to it.
Steve Covino
He had two zingers.
Dan Byer
Yes.
Steve Covino
He had personality.
Dan Byer
And I know they're rare, but to just base it on the win, I'm thinking good personality. Get one right.
Steve Covino
Give him the swig.
Danny G
I like that. Andy, go ahead, call back and I will get you on the mailing list for One of the new midnight black swiggies.
Steve Covino
I agree. You know what? The Empire. Good call.
Rich Davis
I get like five. Andes calling up. It's me, Andy.
Steve Covino
I'm here.
Rich Davis
One. All right, guys, I gotta go practice Saturday. I don't know, but I have a new daughter and a game to prepare for, so. It's been fun.
Danny G
Guys, go back to your end.
Steve Covino
All right.
Rich Davis
Later, guys. Keep saying it, keep slaying it. Especially that Cavino guy.
Steve Covino
Yeah, okay. Man, you know, of the Holmes is.
Rich Davis
Always so hyped every time he comes back.
Dan Byer
You know, I also just said that if a caller calls in.
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Dan Byer
That if they bring the energy, they should also get a swig, you know, I agree.
Rich Davis
Because you have too many. What, are you building a ramp? Yeah. I think. Honestly. Yeah. Andy Callback. You were great. You win. I actually like that rule. Yeah. If you win, you get one. But if you were the man and you battled and you showed up, if.
Dan Byer
You get one right, like, you can't just be skunked.
Rich Davis
I like that rule.
Dan Byer
Yeah.
Steve Covino
Yeah.
Rich Davis
It can't be for everybody, but I like, like that.
Steve Covino
I like it. You know, of all the. Of all the games this weekend, there's only one that's like. I mean, Philly six and a half, but they're all touchdown or more points for differentials. The only game that Vegas has no clue on is Baltimore, Buffalo, Ravens, Bills. That is flipped from Ravens minus one to Buffalo minus one. Two, even two. Ravens minus one to Baltimore. Now it's back to Baltimore minus one. So essentially, that game is a. Who on earth knows? Pick them, essentially. And the other three games, we're expected to see Lions, Eagles, Chiefs versus the winner of that. And that goes along with Kavino, your narrative of we could talk all year about things, but it ends up where we thought it would end up.
Rich Davis
The usual suspects.
Steve Covino
I mean, the whole AFC really is going to come down to those three teams. Ravens, Buffalo, and Texans. I'm sorry, Chiefs. Unless the Texans pull some upset. There is rumors about a Canelo fight.
Rich Davis
Oh, they're saying. Here's the rumor there. Canelo Crawford in September, Terence Crawford, Canelo. That is going to be a massive fight. If that happens this September, I'm hoping that we're there, too.
Steve Covino
Hoping we got to be there for that.
Rich Davis
And the other update is that Fury retired this week. So Tyson Fury retired. That's your fight.
Steve Covino
Up until some Saudi guys like, here's $50 million.
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Steve Covino
Talking about taking the show on the road. We love doing the Graduate Hotel broadcast. I think we have a few of those coming up in 2025. We don't have full details yet, but I did want to throw it out there for our Fox Sports Radio.
Rich Davis
You could plant a little seed.
Steve Covino
I'm going to plant a little seed for the Fox Sports Radio people. And I was Sam and Danny G. Hearing this for the first time in June, Kavino and I are going to officially have our 20th anniversary party as a show. We're. We're going to work out the details, but the dates are June 20th to the 22nd, a Friday to a Sunday, June 20th to June 22nd.
Rich Davis
So the big party will be on the 21st. If you can only come for one night, but everybody's invited, the more the merrier. So block out that weekend.
Steve Covino
But, like, details on events, venue, broadcast party, you know, all those things to be announced. TBA to be determined.
Danny G
I read all about this on Facebook from your guys's Carl Superfan page.
Rich Davis
Hell, yeah.
Danny G
Yeah.
Steve Covino
I'm sorry we didn't tell you first.
Danny G
There's so many fans on there that were like, I thought this would never happen.
Steve Covino
It's okay. When Kavino is gonna become a dad. I read about it on a blog online before he told me, so it's okay.
Danny G
I saw a post yesterday, Rich, that says you're an a hole.
Steve Covino
You know, someone did do that, and they did it anonymously. And at least if you're gonna say I'm an a hole, say it to my face, bro. So I don't think they call you an a hole. I think it was something else. Oh, there's.
Danny G
There's the same same, or they call you a D. Yeah, it's similar thought.
Steve Covino
Trust me.
Danny G
Rich is actually a nice dude.
Rich Davis
I'm going to tell the Gottlieb if he's going to post about Rich to at least own up to him.
Steve Covino
So June 20th to the 22nd. And I was saying, Danny G, you know, we'd make sure you guys are there for sure. A little Vegas weekend, a cabin on Rich celebration. Just mark that date down. Again, no details yet. And of course, a bunch of fun Fox Sports Radio broadcast between now and then. But June 20th to the 22nd, we're going to celebrate 20 years broadcast. Drinks, food, a little of everything.
Rich Davis
So Vegas, baby.
Steve Covino
Vegas, Vegas.
Rich Davis
Make it happen.
Steve Covino
Now, before you get out of here today, I did want to bring up Deion Sanders, and I said this to you off the air, Kavino, and we were talking about how nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I know Rick James said, cocaine's a hell of a drug. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. We love to reminisce about the glory days of our teams.
Rich Davis
Yeah, dude, we could sing commercials from our childhood, but can't remember what we ate yesterday. Yeah, get your ski shined up, grab a stick of Juicy Fruit. The taste is gonna move ya. Take a sniff, pull it out.
Steve Covino
Those lyrics are weird.
Rich Davis
The taste is gonna move you. When you pop it in your mouth.
Steve Covino
Juicy Fruit is gonna move.
Rich Davis
See what I mean? But what you eat last night, you're.
Steve Covino
Like, what did I Turkey?
Rich Davis
Because we, we love nostalgia and sports.
Steve Covino
Nostalgia is one of the strongest types of nostalgia. You go to a stadium where the team hasn't won a championship in a while, I'll be the first to admit as a Mets fan, you go to Citi Field back in the day, Shea Stadium. We're still talking about Gary Carter's perm and Keith Hernandez mustache. Because if your team has no recent glory, you will always talk. Jets fans are talking about Joe Namath still, you know, like, you know, when you think about your team and the glory days, you know, Minnesota Twins fans, they're talking about the late, great Kirby Puckett and, you know, Dan Gladden's mullet. We always love the nostalgia. And the Cowboys are one of those teams that we love to think, you know, America's team, you know, settle down. But they have not won since many of us were in grade school, since forever, they settle down just a little bit. They haven't been playoff relevant and super bowl relevant since the 90s. Before smartphones, before when you were, when.
Rich Davis
You were dialing up with aol, rocking silver tabs, you were rocking Carpenter jeans, the Bob Vila specials.
Steve Covino
I might have still been rocking Cavari.
Rich Davis
You were wearing, yeah, you were wearing your Doc Martens and you had a mushroom haircut.
Steve Covino
Truth be told, I might have had braces. When the Cowboys won't believe it. So when you think of it that way, is the Deion Sanders thing a play at nostalgia or is it the real deal? Because I joked with Camino that it's, you know, a lot of teams will have their first base coach and their bench coach, like be former fan favorite players. Prime times proved himself in Colorado. But is that a nostalgia pick or is that a.
Rich Davis
No, no, it. Well, it's a little of both. We said it yesterday. But Ben Maller, the great Ben Maller also said it, which is always fun to see that we're on the same train track of thought. It's just a good match, you know, America's team, high profile team, prime time, coach. It's just. It just seems like it would fit, you know, he could handle that.
Steve Covino
Maybe there'll be more developments before tomorrow, but something to think about. Prime time Dallas, right? Fit your thoughts. We'll get to that tomorrow. Until then, have a great night. Arriba. Dare she, baby.
Rich Davis
See you in the promised land. Goodbye, guys.
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Title: The Best Of Covino & Rich
Hosts: Steve Covino & Rich Davis
Release Date: January 15, 2025
Description: In this episode, Steve Covino and Rich Davis engage in a lively discussion about the dynamics of accountability in sports, the influence of external motivations on team performance, and the evaluation of quarterbacks' careers. They delve into recent NFL games, player performances, and upcoming playoff scenarios, all while interacting with listeners and hosting a fun trivia segment.
Timestamp: [02:38] – [05:00]
Steve Covino and Rich Davis kick off the episode by debating whether individuals should be held accountable in their roles and if fans' attitudes impact team dynamics. They introduce the concept of "do it for Johnny," questioning its effectiveness as a motivational tool for players.
Steve Covino: "Should you be held accountable at your place of business? If you're an a hole fan in the stands."
[02:48]
Rich Davis: "Do you believe in that Dojani? Because, Rich, you think what?"
[06:45]
Rich challenges the idea, suggesting that personal motivations significantly influence player performance.
Rich Davis: "But he’s under constant pressure."
[04:26]
Timestamp: [05:00] – [08:50]
The hosts discuss how the Los Angeles community's struggles may have provided the LA Rams with extra motivation, leading to a standout performance against the Vikings. They debate whether such motivations are unique or if all teams possess similar underlying drives.
Rich Davis: "Did you add that emotional music?"
[05:29]
Steve Covino: "But listen, you said it yesterday. Cavino goes, they're going to play for LA."
[05:40]
Rich Davis: "Do it for Johnny. Let's do it for Johnny, man. We'll do it for Johnny."
[06:44]
Timestamp: [08:23] – [25:43]
Introducing the "three year stink," Covino and Davis evaluate quarterbacks based on their performance over a three-year span. They focus on Sam Darnold's recent underperformance, debating whether it indicates a decline or a temporary setback. The discussion extends to J.J. McCarthy's cryptic tweet "Amor fati" and its implications for Darnold's future with the Vikings.
Rich Davis: "There's no such thing as wanting it more."
[07:39]
Steve Covino: "It's a tough time to be back."
[04:46]
Rich Davis: "I do think it could bring teams closer together, something to rally around."
[08:23]
Timestamp: [25:43] – [39:XX]
The hosts engage with listener calls, discussing various NFL playoff scenarios and quarterback performances. They emphasize the unpredictability of sports and the dangers of placing excessive expectations on athletes. Covino and Davis analyze the Vikings' playoff prospects and Sam Darnold's standing within the team.
Steve Covino: "Do you think this goes under the same category as bulletin board material?"
[17:54]
Rich Davis: "It seems that way. And that's the feeling we have a day later."
[25:37]
Timestamp: [54:37] – [61:47]
Adding a fun twist, Covino and Davis host a trivia game themed around Patrick Mahomes. Listeners participate, answering questions to win swiggies. This segment provides a light-hearted break from the intense discussions.
Rich Davis: "What active QB has the second most career passing yards behind the enigma Aaron Rodgers? A) Joe Flacco, B) Matt Stafford, C) Russell Wilson."
[57:14]
Danny G: "Amor fati is not that he wants more fat booties. It’s his way of saying fate..."
[21:51]
Timestamp: [63:00] – [68:00]
Concluding the episode, Covino and Davis announce their upcoming 20th-anniversary party scheduled for June 20-22, 2025. They share plans for events, celebrations, and teasers for future broadcasts. Additionally, they touch upon recent sports news, including Tyson Fury's retirement and Deion Sanders' coaching role.
Steve Covino: "June 20th to the 22nd, we're going to celebrate 20 years broadcast."
[63:23]
Rich Davis: "See you in the promised land. Goodbye, guys."
[67:54]
Steve Covino on Accountability:
"Should you be held accountable at your place of business? If you're an a hole fan in the stands."
[02:48]
Rich Davis on 'Do it for Johnny':
"Do you believe in that Dojani? Because, Rich, you think what?"
[06:45]
Rich Davis on Quarterback Evaluation:
"There's so many times where it does. You’re not changing."
[08:23]
Steve Covino on 'Amor fati':
"Amor fat ass... Amore fati is not that he wants more fat booties. It’s his way of saying fate..."
[21:49]
Rich Davis on Three-Year Stink:
"But I just, definitely not that offensive."
[51:39]
"The Best Of Covino & Rich" offers an engaging blend of in-depth sports analysis, spirited debates, and interactive segments. Hosts Steve Covino and Rich Davis provide listeners with insightful perspectives on NFL dynamics, quarterback performances, and the underlying motivations that drive team successes and failures. Their balanced approach, combining serious discussion with humor and listener interaction, makes for a compelling and informative episode.