The Best Of Covino & Rich

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Best of Covino & Rich

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
• Episode: The Best of Covino & Rich
• Release Date: February 4, 2025

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1. Introduction

In this standout episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," Covino and Rich delve into compelling conversations with notable guests, delivering insightful perspectives on sports history, personal experiences, and the evolving landscape of athletic careers. Skipping over the promotional segments, the episode primarily features an in-depth interview with baseball legend Kurt Schilling, followed by an engaging discussion with social media influencer and former professional golfer, Paige Spiranek.

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2. In-Depth Interview with Kurt Schilling

a. Career Highlights and Memorable Moments

Kurt Schilling, a three-time World Series champion, shares anecdotes from his illustrious baseball career. He reflects on his participation in some of the most memorable postseason moments, including:

• 1993 World Series: Schilling describes the series as a pivotal moment, despite the Yankees' loss due to Joe Carter's walk-off home run.

  "I’ve been part of so many big moments. The '93 World Series sucked. Joe Carter walked us off, but everybody remembers it." [03:49]

• 2004 World Series and the Bloody Sock: Recounting the dramatic events of the 2004 World Series, Schilling discusses the infamous "bloody sock" incident. He clarifies that the media sensationalized the event, which was a result of his injury during the game.

  "I threw the sock away. Like, I took it off after I wasn’t thinking about, oh, my God, my sock's bloody. I was like, dude, historical sock." [08:51]

b. Relationship with Fans and Team Dynamics

Schilling offers a candid look into his interactions with fans, particularly highlighting the contrasting behaviors of Yankee and Philadelphia supporters. He notes the high expectations and the often harsh criticism he faced from Yankees fans:

"As an athlete, like, they don't even know I'm here... Yankee fans hit you where it really hurts. They offended me." [04:46]

He also touches on the camaraderie within the locker room and the deep bonds formed with teammates, emphasizing the emotional support they provide, especially during challenging times like the passing of a teammate.

c. Reflections on Retirement and Hall of Fame Considerations

Discussing his post-retirement life, Schilling expresses his feelings about potentially entering the Hall of Fame. He emphasizes humility and the importance of recognizing those who supported him throughout his career:

"The game owes me absolutely nothing... If it happens, it's a way for me to make sure to call out all the people who got me there." [17:00]

d. Involvement with the National World War II Museum

Beyond baseball, Schilling highlights his philanthropic efforts, particularly his involvement with the National World War II Museum in New Orleans. He underscores the importance of preserving the stories and history of the Greatest Generation:

"We need to remember them, respect them, pay tribute to them, and keep that memory alive." [20:20]

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3. Engaging Conversation with Paige Spiranek

a. Transition from Professional Golf to Social Media Influence

Paige Spiranek, a former professional golfer, discusses her shift from competitive sports to becoming a social media influencer. She explains the financial strains of maintaining a pro golf career without adequate support and how a viral moment propelled her into the digital spotlight:

"I went viral overnight, went from having 500 followers to 100,000 followers, and companies were reaching out." [27:37]

b. Handling Criticism and Mental Health Challenges

Paige opens up about the intense criticism she faced in both her athletic and online careers. She speaks about the psychological toll of striving for perfection in sports and the pressures of maintaining a public persona:

"I'm deeply insecure... When people look at me, I'm like, is there something wrong with me." [35:51]

c. Impact on Golf and Social Media Landscape

Highlighting her pioneering role, Paige explains how she paved the way for athletes, especially women, to monetize their social media presence within the golf industry. She takes pride in creating a unique, engaging online persona that balances vulnerability with entertainment:

"I paved a path for so many, not even just for the women, but for my male counterparts to be able to do this." [32:12]

d. Balancing Privacy and Public Life

Paige details her strategies for maintaining privacy amid her public life. She emphasizes the importance of keeping personal relationships and family life separate from her online identity to protect her loved ones from the often harsh scrutiny of social media:

"Certain things that I'll never talk about, like friends, family, any relationships. It's just not worth it." [36:34]

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4. Notable Quotes

Throughout the episode, both guests provide memorable insights. Here are some highlights:

• Kurt Schilling on Fan Interactions:

  "Yankee fans hit you where it really hurts. They offended me." [04:46]

• Kurt Schilling on the Bloody Sock:

  "I threw the sock away. Like, I took it off after, I wasn't thinking about, oh, my God, my sock's bloody." [08:51]

• Paige Spiranek on Social Media Influence:

  "I paved a path for so many... to monetize your social media in a way that no one had ever really done before." [32:12]

• Paige Spiranek on Handling Criticism:

  "I'm deeply insecure... When people look at me, I'm like, is there something wrong with me." [35:51]

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5. Conclusion

"The Best of Covino & Rich" episode successfully blends engaging storytelling with deep reflections from its guests. Kurt Schilling offers a nuanced view of his career, the challenges of fandom, and his efforts to preserve history, while Paige Spiranek provides an inspiring account of transitioning from sports to digital influence, coping with public scrutiny, and empowering others in the process. This episode serves as a rich resource for listeners seeking to understand the personal and professional journeys of prominent sports figures.

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Note: The timestamps correspond to the moments in the provided transcript where the quotes were made.

Transcript

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[Kavino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Best of Cavino and Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio.

[Nate Thompson]

Find your local station for Kabino and [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. I want to boo this guy as a Yankees fan, but he's such a baseball legend that I can't. Let's welcome three times. No, no. Oh, I have, but not here. Yeah, real life.

[Rich]

And that doesn't bother me because you never beat me when it matters.

[Nate Thompson]

I know. And you're such a big fella. I would never even go there. Let's welcome three time World Series champion.

[Kavino]

Kurt, by the way, a guy that has been part of so many big moments.

[Rich]

Yeah, well, that's what I say when I people talk about my career. I've been blessed. I, I, you know, the 93 World Series sucked. Joe Carter walked us off, but Everybody remembers it.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Rich]

019, 11 Yankees D. Unbelievable. 04. You know, so I was in three of the most memorable postseason moments in the top 10.

[Nate Thompson]

Couldn't you let New York have the no. 1 1?

[Rich]

Come on, dude. And it was funny because it happened. As an Arizona fan, it happened perfectly. We beat.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Rich]

We win the first two. We go to New York in three games that energized that city at a time when everybody was looking for it. And then we come home and we beat the hell out of Pettit. And then game seven, we walked Mariano off.

[Nate Thompson]

You know what, man? You're right. Every one of those so memorable. That really is interesting. Now, again, he played nine seasons with the Phillies. So I got to ask you again, Eagles are here. They're representing the fans around. Are Philadelphia fans misunderstood or are they the best?

[Rich]

Everybody knows what they are.

[Nate Thompson]

Really they are who they are.

[Rich]

Punch you in the face. They are Their family, to me, they were. I mean, I spent nine years there and probably wasn't booed as often as I should have been, but, my God, 93. We had a parade in Philadelphia, losing the World Series. One of the most beloved teams to ever play in Philadelphia. There was a connection there. And like, Yankee fans, Philly fans don't boo players that suck. They don't care about you.

[Nate Thompson]

Right.

[Rich]

They don't acknowledge you. It's like the worst. As an athlete, like, they don't even know I'm here.

[Kavino]

Nothing worse. I think when a woman is, like, apathetic.

[Rich]

Apathy is the worst thing in a lot of ways, and that's one of them. But they are smart as hell when they're sober. And like, Yankee fans, they. They. You know, people after I've retired have said, you know, things to me, and they're like, oh, you know, I hope I didn't offend you. I'm like, dude, nine years in Philly. Yeah. Five in Boston. And like, I was a Red Sox in the Yankee Stadium, so I heard things you can't even fathom.

[Nate Thompson]

So in a way, they prepared you for all these big moments. Right. Because you were sort of numb to.

[Rich]

I loved. I loved playing in Yankee Stadium. I love.

[Nate Thompson]

You love to set them up.

[Rich]

Yeah. Hated me.

[Nate Thompson]

Exactly.

[Rich]

And I was telling somebody earlier, I had my favorite, you know, give and take. Like, the Yankee fans wouldn't go, oh, your mother's a. They would go, dude, you got a 70 ra in May. You suck. Right, Right. Like, they were. Statistically.

[Nate Thompson]

They hit you where it really hurts.

[Rich]

They hit. Damn it. Yeah. They offended me. Right. And, and, and, But. But. And you, you know, go back to, oh, four. I, you know, I come out saying, I can't think of anything better than making 55,000 people from New York shut up. Well, now I go out, game one, get my butt handed to me, and they were anything but quiet, and I deserved it. But then I come back six days later, and we worked them over a little bit, and. But they were. Since I retired, I've not had a larger group of people reach out to me and say, I hated you like a mofo. Yeah. When you played. But, man, I respect the hell out of you. And it was a fan base that. Whose respect was a big deal.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's exactly how I feel talking to you, man, because you're so many. So, so much a part of all my baseball memories as a fan.

[Rich]

They were the barrier, though, right? I mean, 01 was magical, but it was also the Yankees in 04. The World Series was Red Sox. Yankees. It wasn't Red Sox, Cardinals. Right. That was a sweep. Right?

[Kavino]

You swept the World Series. That was like.

[Rich]

And I'll tell you the magical story behind us winning eight in a row, if, when, if you ask for it. But we won out and we swept the Cardinals, who were an unbelievable team. No disrespect, but the win was the Red was the Yankees.

[Kavino]

That comeback documentary on Netflix, did you watch it? Accurate? Because I felt like there was some really. That was a really.

[Rich]

Yes, in a sense. Like there's a lot of guys misremembering how much they, how important they were or things that they said or did, but for the most part, it was spot on.

[Nate Thompson]

Do you enjoy them looking back, though, at all the highlights? Do you enjoy watching those?

[Rich]

It's. It's hard to explain to people that have never been in a locker room that's family. During the baseball season, you spend more time with your teammates than you do your family. You become close with these people. And so that's why when we get together after 20 years, it's like we were in the same room yesterday. And of all the teams I played 22 years of professional baseball, I had thousands of teammates. So there's 24 hours in a day. You kind of pick who you're going to still talk to or whatever. Doug Mirabelli, someone I talk to Daily, weekly, whatever. It's not a lot, but, but once you're in the room, it's a hug and, oh, my God, it's great to see you. And that's why when they, you know, Dave McCarty passed recently and he called me from the reunion on the field and was like, dude, this is. You should be here. Blah, blah, blah, this is great. And then, you know, I, I go with his funeral. And unfortunately, at this phase of life, you guys will someday understand the phone ringing is not always a good thing. Oh, yeah. You know, it's hard.

[Nate Thompson]

Scared the looks of.

[Rich]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kavino]

Looking back at 04, Kurt Schilling hang with Kavino Rich, how happy were you that the sock was bloody? It just added to the story.

[Rich]

If you go back and, and look at everything around that, you're not going to find quotes from me. I didn't talk about it. It was a, it was. The media made it a sensational thing and that's fine, but I wasn't there talking about my ankle and my bloody sock and all the things that went with that. It's just the irony behind. I played for The Red Sox. And my sock was red.

[Nate Thompson]

And the camera zoomed.

[Rich]

Right, Right. And that's why, if the priority for game two of the World Series wasn't the sock, I wrote on my. On my shoe strikeout als, Because I had realized what an unbelievable thing that was, like, the. The attention that was drawn to it. The only thing. And we were talking about this earlier. The only thing I remember about game six was two things. One was my foot was bleeding so bad that the sock on the bottom was wet. Like when you walk in water. Right.

[Nate Thompson]

That's the worst feeling ever.

[Kavino]

Oh, it's the worst sock.

[Nate Thompson]

But that's one way to ruin your day.

[Rich]

I threw it away. Yeah, I threw the sock away. Like, I took it off after the. I wasn't thinking about, oh, my God, my socks bloody. I was like, dude, historical sock, right? But yeah, and I'm not thinking like that. So I threw it on the ground. And somebody earlier was asking about the original one, and I said, if it's out there and somebody has it, it's one of the clubhouse guys from New York, because I just threw it on the ground, not thinking twice about it.

[Kavino]

Wow. Now, when you look back at that 04 season, when you're down 3 0, I know the right thing to say is like, we're not out of it yet, but was there, like. Yes, was there. You really felt.

[Rich]

Seminal moment. And I always tell the story when I talk about Terry Francona. So we had closed circuit television in the clubhouse. So in Boston, there was a media room upstairs, and whoever's being interviewed, we could see it downstairs. And I was standing downstairs, and the first question out of one of the. But clowns in the media was, you know, what are you. What are you gonna do tomorrow? And Tito's like, what do you mean? He goes, well, what are you gonna do? And he goes, we're gonna show up and play our asses off. What else do we do?

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Rich]

And it clicked immediately. I'm watching this, thinking, well, that's it. We don't have to beat them four in a row. We don't have to beat them tomorrow. We have to beat them in the top of the first inning. And so we had a team meeting. And I said, this is not about winning four games. This is about if you make an out, make it a. An out that you win. You got 12 pitch at bat, every at bat as a pitcher win. And. And for eight days, we didn't get beat. And it was. It was. It's what happens when 25 supremely talented people are hyper focused. And the story I was going to tell you earlier. Please tell us.

[Kavino]

I want to hear it. 8.

[Rich]

Oh, in 2001, we're with the Diamondbacks. We're in the World Series. My wife makes purple scarves for all the wives in their little bonding thing. Flash forward to 2004. My wife makes these scarves for the wives. Fast forward to 19,000 to two, game three, loss. We're down three zero. Johnny Damon's girlfriend Michelle walks into the wives on her and my wife weren't friends. And she throws the scarf on my wife's lap. And she goes, nice effing job these scarves did. To which my wife stands up and says, well, maybe if you wore it, your husband wouldn't be over 20 fist. They had to be broken up.

[Nate Thompson]

No way, dude.

[Rich]

I get it. So we just lost by 17 runs. I hopped in the car and that's the story I hear from my wife. I'm like, oh, my God. Johnny and I walk into the clubhouse the next day, we see each other, like, and we just bust out laughing. We're like, oh, we didn't lose a game. And so, like that. I was like, that's the.

[Kavino]

That's why.

[Rich]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Kavino]

That's so cool, dude.

[Nate Thompson]

Here with Kurt Schilling, Covino and Rich. Can I talk about Dave Roberts, too? Because he was a major turning point of the series. Did you view him back then as a guy that could be a. A leader of a clubhouse?

[Rich]

Oh, absolutely.

[Nate Thompson]

As a man?

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

You follow his career, you know, as a manager with the Dodgers?

[Rich]

Let's back up to the stolen base.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Rich]

It goes without one of the things that I had a one moment in my career like this, but when you're going to do something and your opponent knows it and everybody in the world knows it and you still do it.

[Kavino]

That's true. That. That's. That's not talked about enough. Every human, everybody.

[Rich]

And he went in the game for.

[Nate Thompson]

One reason, and everybody thought that was their turning point of the series until we found out about the fight.

[Rich]

Well, well, Right, Exactly. Right, exactly. Well, I. And I said I had. So 2002, I'm at the All Star Game, and the day before the All Star Game, I'm starting, and I walked up to Alex Rodriguez, the American League's taking bp. And I said, hey, listen, dude, if you come up tomorrow with nobody on, I'm throwing you nothing but fastballs. He's like, what? I'm like, I want to see if I can get the best hitter in the world out. When he knows what's coming, he's like, okay. I had a mic on, and I was for Fox, actually. And. And he comes up, nobody on.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Rich]

First pitch, 97 paint away, black heat. And he took it, and I think he was thinking, is he lying? Was he right? Right?

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. Now you're in his head a little bit.

[Rich]

Next pitch, 98 black, inside corner, untouchable. Next pitch, 99 away three pitches. Sit down. I was like. I was feeling pretty sexy.

[Nate Thompson]

Have you always throwing heat like that, even when you were a little kid?

[Rich]

No, no, no, no.

[Nate Thompson]

That's just something you develop.

[Rich]

It came honestly after I got hurt. I had solar surgery in 95, and I had labral surgery, and I kind of got religion about my arm after that. My doctor at the time kind of showed me a cadaver. An autopsy showed me the inside of his shoulder. I understood how everything worked. So I became hyper focused on medicine in the sense that you play 162 games in 181 days, you're sore every day. You know, I don't feel like I'm 18. You not. You never feel like you're 18 the day after you're 18 forever. But there's aches and pains. Excuse me. And there's a difference between being sore and being injured.

[Kavino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

And so I always knew when I was sore, why I was sore, where I was sore, what I had to do. And so I got religion and I came back. The first start I made coming off of my labral surgery, everybody was like, oh, my God. I went seven innings, punched out 10, gave up two hits, and I was throwing 96. I was a 92, 93 guy before this. And everybody was like, oh, my God. And then it just kind of took off.

[Nate Thompson]

Everything clicked.

[Kavino]

I was like, I'm coach. My kids in Little League.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

At what age do you feel like, you know that someone's.

[Rich]

My dad told me when I was 13.

[Kavino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

He said, you're gonna get a chance to play some. And I'm like, okay, dude, Everybody's dead, right? Whatever.

[Nate Thompson]

You didn't believe.

[Rich]

And he never pushed me to. To play baseball. Buddy pushed me to play the game hard and play the game right. And, you know, one of the things I would tell you is until a kid. Until a boy's hands stop growing, you have no idea what they can do.

[Nate Thompson]

Hands stop growing at, like, nine.

[Rich]

Exactly. Right. You got little hands at nine. Was your breaking ball today, right?

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Rich]

And I tried to explain that's one of the most important measurements on the Kid is hand size because of what I can do and not do with the baseball.

[Nate Thompson]

Got to tell us this. We know when you're in the game, you're in the zone. You told us that a rock story just now. What are the days before like the night before? Like, especially in a World Series, you.

[Rich]

Know, you got to win in 2001. So I had a sports psychologist and just. And I'm not lying about this, the night before, I would always do a pre game, pre night session, and it would. He would not hypnotize, but he would talk me through the night before Game 7 of the 2001 World Series. I fell asleep on the phone and woke up with the phone next to me. I was so relaxed. Wow.

[Nate Thompson]

Is that. Is that a normal thing?

[Kavino]

Well, because people do that.

[Rich]

Because what was happening that day was no different than what happened from the first day. I prepared every game from the first day of spring training like it was the game seven of the World Series. So nothing on the day I pitched was different except the game.

[Nate Thompson]

Do you credit that? Because you Learned famously, what, 11 and 2 in the postseason or something like that, so you just never really changed.

[Rich]

Well, I stepped up my. I became somebody else in October.

[Kavino]

So then I got to ask. You hear people say things like, this guy wants it more. This team is motivated. Is that. I. I always say that's.

[Rich]

No, no, no, no. It is BS because everyone wants it. Well, everybody wants it. Some people don't know how to get it. Like, I. I always looked at October, I knew I. My. My first start in the postseason, I struck out the first five guys I faced. And. And no one had ever done that before. And I was like, yeah, I'm feeling sick, Kurt.

[Kavino]

It's sort of a damn shame. The hall of Fame nonsense.

[Nate Thompson]

Your.

[Kavino]

Your politics, your vibe. Do people just hold it against you? Is it nonsense or what?

[Rich]

They've said it right? They. They. But the game owes me nothing. The game owes me absolutely nothing. And one of the reasons I'm getting back into the game as a coach, hopefully, I want to teach pitching and coach or do color. You know, I would love to do like a Manning broadcast on a baseball game because there's some more downtime in baseball than anything, and I have stories for years.

[Nate Thompson]

And you need personality, right?

[Rich]

People don't want me talk about Otani's batting average. They know that, right? They, hey, what are they talking about on the mound right now? And I'm like, 90% of those conversations were about the really hot blonde sitting behind on plate it had nothing to do with the game. It was the pitchy goats trying to make calm me down. And, and so those are the kind of things that I, I, I feel like I, I know pitching as well as anybody that's ever lived, and I can teach it and I can talk it, and so, you know, I kind of want to back into that. But the whole, you know, the, the, the political thing and the hall of Fame thing, my life's complete. I won't be more of a person if I suddenly have a plaque in Cooper Sound. What that will do for me is call out all the people who got me there. And it's a chance to recognize I was raised by an amazing man. My father died eight months before I made my big league debut, but I left the ticket every game I started in the big leagues in his name, so there was always an empty seat in the ballpark. And I ended up getting the home seat from the vet that he's. That I allocated for him after the vet.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, you got the.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

No way. That's awesome.

[Rich]

Yep. Yep. But. So the game owes me nothing. And if it happens, it's a way for me to make sure. But my biggest, if I had a problem with it are the people that have died since I retired who should be here and should have been here for me to talk about what they meant to me.

[Nate Thompson]

Right. So it's shouting out your teammates, your family, your family, but for the fans. And just as baseball fans, man, you belong there.

[Rich]

I appreciate it.

[Nate Thompson]

216 wins, 3116 strikeouts. Six time all star, three time champion. A guy that did it all, man.

[Rich]

So thank you.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. We'll see you there.

[Kavino]

Kurt, we could talk to you all day. I feel like we could talk for two hours. I'm a big baseball guy, and I. You know what?

[Nate Thompson]

Let's do it again, man.

[Kavino]

Let's do it again. By the way, real quick, I know you got to tell us about what's doing here in New Orleans, but I'm a big mess fan. Pete Alonso sticking around. You think that that's gone weird one, Right?

[Rich]

It's gone weird on me, and apparently the Blue Jays are out. Okay. But it's gone weird on me. I don't see any.

[Kavino]

What do you look up? Would he look like a chump going back to the Mets now?

[Rich]

No. No. First of all, no.

[Kavino]

Right. I mean, still 70 million.

[Rich]

So what? He's not gonna look like a chump going anywhere. It his agent made a bet and. And was wrong.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Rich]

And that's what you. I didn't have an agent for the last 11 years of my career. I did all my own stuff. I had total no trade clauses and all the things because I knew what my value was. I. They would send the paper. What everybody's making is right there. I know, hey, I'm better than him. I should make more than. I mean, that was easy stuff, but you have to have confidence to sit in a room with people like that. And I. I want him to go back to New York. I mean, I don't know that he's. Get him over the hump guy, but. But he's a. He's clearly a fan favorite. He hits the ball with a lot of force and having a 40 home run guy. But they're not as rare as they used to be because everybody's home running or. Or striking out 200 times, which is. The game has changed dramatically that way. And that's not. I don't think that's for the better.

[Kavino]

No doubt. Kurt, what are you doing here in New Orleans?

[Rich]

25 years ago, the World War II Museum was founded. I was on the original board of directors.

[Nate Thompson]

Nice.

[Rich]

All right. And a lot of people don't know why it was built in New Orleans. You've seen Saving Private Ryan, of course, opening scene of Saving Private Ryan. When they're riding into the beach, they're riding on Higgins boats, which were built in New Orleans. And that was a transcendental, amazingly important thing for the war effort. I was on the board of director. Half my collection resides in the museum. And I would tell you that it is a true bucket list thing to go over there. I met a 100-year-old vet yesterday. There's only 66,000 left out of the 16 and a-2 million. And they are preserving the oral history of that generation, which has to happen. We have to be able to pass that along to future generations, because for all the warts this country has had, and, you know, you can find anybody willing to bring them up, the fact of the matter is, we are a direct result of good and bad. And this was the greatest generation. And we need to remember them, respect them, pay tribute to them, and keep that memory alive and see your collection, too.

[Nate Thompson]

The National World War II Museum. Kurt Schilling.

[Rich]

Thank you, man. Thank you, guys.

[Kavino]

No problem. We got more Kavino and Rich next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight based in Nashville? We're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Because we got lots to say. I. I texted you, and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored.

[Kavino]

They changed the.

[Bobby Bones]

And the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest. It was a little pink.

[Kavino]

There was something sentimental when you. When you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Kavino]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing. I speak with musician, photographer, and philanthropist Julian Lennon.

[Isaac Loewencron]

One of the really important things that happened to me in my relationship with photography and the images was that I would have people write to me, people that couldn't financially afford to travel the world or go anywhere, couldn't or were disabled and couldn't travel the world or go anywhere. And what they had all said to me is that you bring these stories to us, you bring the truth, you bring life to us of cultures that we would never necessarily know anything about. Photography really does allow me to do that. Have empathy for people on the other side of the world that you'll never ever meet, but you'll at least have some understanding of what their life is and what they went through or are still going through.

[Rich]

Listen to the new season of here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jon Stewart]

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[AJ Stephens]

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[Nate Thompson]

Welcome back to Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio to our left. It's a pleasure to meet and welcome someone we see on social media all the time. Over 11 million followers on all social media platforms from Sports Grid. Give me props. Let's welcome Paige Sporanec to the show.

[Kavino]

Hello, Paige. How are you?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Thanks for having me. I'm super excited.

[Kavino]

Pleasure to have you now.

[Nate Thompson]

Great to see you in person. We feel like we see you every day on our phone.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

How many people do you feel as though they recognize you? And I think I know her. Where do I know her from? Do you get that a lot?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah. Well, people going, you look familiar.

[Rich]

Oh, yeah.

[Julie Sterbinks]

If I'm on the golf course, it makes sense, right? But, like, walking around here anywhere. But I have the best job ever because it's like I can be invisible in real life because social media fame isn't real. So it's like I have that life and then I have my real life.

[Nate Thompson]

You got to tell us about that again. Paige Branagh, you definitely know her. Again, Give Me Props is the new show on Sports Grid. She's a former pro golfer turned social media superstar. Tell us about that decision. How it happened. Was it hard to say? Well, I'm going to give up pro golf and focus on this, but still golf. Like, tell us about the journey.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah. So I was a competitive gymnast before I switched over to golf, and I really wanted to be a pro athlete, and I thought that I would just be really well suited to golf. And so I did junior golf and then played D1 golf and then two years professionally. But that first year, it's financially straining and I didn't have any support. And it just kind of happened to me where someone wrote an article about me. I went viral overnight, went from having 500 followers to 100,000 followers, and companies were reaching out. And at the time, this is almost 10 years ago now, there was no path to be a social media influencer or content creator, especially in. In golf or in sports. And so I was like, oh, I can use this to my advantage to finance my golf career. And that's really how it started. And after really, like, a year of trying to balance both, which was really hard, and I was also dealing with a lot of criticism of, you know, getting a sponsor invite or just what people said was, like, special treatment in the golf industry because of my following or my appearance, and it was just too hard to handle. And I was never cut out for pro golf. I had the. The physical skills to do it, but, oh, my God, I am such a head case. Like, it was bad. It was really bad.

[Nate Thompson]

What got to you the most, the criticism or, you know, I think that.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Like, coming from a gymnastics background, where you need to be perfect and you're striving for perfection, and then you go to golf, which is the ex opposite. There is no such thing as perfect. And really, you look like this throughout your career, and the highs never really outweighed the lows. For me, there's just something about golf, and I don't know if you. You've played it, but it just makes you feel so small for that reason.

[Kavino]

Yeah, because everyone's like, you're gonna. You're gonna love it one day.

[Rich]

Right?

[Kavino]

And then the minute you feel like I'm getting pretty good, then you feel like you suck.

[Julie Sterbinks]

It just eats you alive. And especially when you're trying to do it as a living, which most people like, that's the dream job. And I'm like, well, you know, especially for the women I was playing on the mini tours, I played around 25 tournaments, I had a win and I barely broke even for the year. And so you're grinding and you don't have support, and it's just a really hard lifestyle. So there's so much pressure on you. And then me just kind of being a people pleaser and wanting to do a good job. And also, it's a really unique sport too, where, you know, my parents always told me if you work hard, you will be successful. If you do everything that you need to do, you will see results. And golf is like, nah, no, you won't. You can eat right. You can, you know, do everything, have healthy habits and work hard in the gym and work hard, you know, on your practice. And then, you know, it could be the first tee and then it's like, you've never held a golf club before. And I just couldn't ever wrap my head around that. And so I decided to lean into doing social media work for just a year or two to be able to, you know, then maybe take a break of that and go back to pro golf. In about a year of just doing social media, I was like, I will never, ever go back to playing golf competitively. Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

Because that just blew up. Blew up for you. Congrats.

[Julie Sterbinks]

And I'm just better suited. So what held me back in playing professional golf actually helped me in my social media career, where I think I was very vulnerable and, you know, competition was hard for me, and that vulnerability helped me build a really great community. And so I'm just much better suited to be doing this. And I still get to stay in golf, which I'm so passionate about. But I just was never meant to play professional golf.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

Hey, listen, we're here hanging with Paige, Spirana, Kavino and Rich. What I love about what you do is you don't shy away from the obvious. You're good at golf.

[Julie Sterbinks]

What are you talking about?

[Kavino]

You're a good looking woman. And like a lot of times there's like a hesitancy where people are like, well, I don't know if I want to lean it. And you're like, listen, I was blessed with good looks and I know how to play sports and I know sports. Why not marry the two?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah. I mean, when I first started doing this, I again, had no idea what it would morph into. And I was taking a more traditional route and it was so funny. I posted a picture and I was wearing a turtleneck and someone called me out for my wardrobe and I was like, this isn't about my wardrobe. You're just putting me in this box. And I got so sick of that. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna lean in and I'm gonna do that the best I possibly can.

[Nate Thompson]

Why not?

[Kavino]

Right?

[Julie Sterbinks]

So my social media has morphed over the years and it's really become this like, parody of how people view me. And if you follow me, you're kind of in on the bit and it's like, if you know, you know.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Julie Sterbinks]

And I have so much fun with it and I'm very self aware and I just feel like there's so much negativity on line that I want people to come to my page and have fun and smile and not think that I'm like, trying to preach something or do this or do that. It's like you were.

[Nate Thompson]

That you were the first.

[Kavino]

Like, I feel like because of you, there's so many. Like, I have buddies that like, my whole algorithm is like, hot girls golfing. Yeah, you started sort of like a genre.

[Julie Sterbinks]

No, I mean, I paved a path for so many, not even just for the women, but for also my male counterparts to be able to do this. I was the first one to be able to monetize your social media in a way in the golf industry that no one had ever really done before. And sometimes I don't always get credit for that because again, of like, how I've built my brand and it. Because it is more kind of silly and not as like, in your face golf all the time. But I'm really proud of that. And it's so cool that so many women now have an opportunity to make, you know, A career.

[Kavino]

Have you met guys that are intimidated that you are better than them at golf? Because there's a lot of guys that would have a hard time, like, gosh, it's better than me. Like, is that. Have you encountered many of men that are insecure about your skills?

[Julie Sterbinks]

You know, it's funny because a lot of people, because I am so public and I say, oh, I feel that playing golf professionally, that they think that I'm a bad golfer. And so when I meet a lot of people, they're not nervous that they're playing with me because they think I'm good. They think that I'm gonna be bad and I'll make, I'll make contact on the first shot and they're like, oh, no. Oh my gosh. And like, that's the fun part. It's like, I, I still can play good level and I'm confident in my skills and. But most people just don't realize that I, you know, can break 70.

[Kavino]

You could hustle so many people. You can hustle so many people.

[Julie Sterbinks]

I've been doing it online. I mean, that's my whole career.

[Kavino]

The big hustle.

[Nate Thompson]

By the way, AJ Baranek on the Covino and Rich show, Fox Sports Radio.

[Kavino]

Show me your tips. You're not shying away from. Like I said, everything's like you said. If you're in on it, she's leaning in, you're in on it. When you talk about gimme props, prop bets, looking at Super Bowl 59, are there bet you're already eyeing up with. With people you're talking about or no? Do you like some of the prop.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Oh, I love them. They have the national anthem, the Gatorade. Poor is always my favorite. What color it's going to be. I mean, always the fun prop bets. But what we decided to do with gimme props is people were writing in prop bets that they want to see me attempt. So the first one, the first episode that launched on February 2, our YouTube channel under Lost Pages is dirty Balls.

[Kavino]

So again, leaning in, having fun.

[Julie Sterbinks]

And it's by the way, when she.

[Nate Thompson]

Said that she looked at you, I want you to know that she looked at Rich. She said dirty balls and look at Rich. Just, just so you know, I want to make that clear.

[Julie Sterbinks]

And so I have to clean golf balls, dirty golf balls in a certain amount of time. And then the second one was a double stacked burger and I have to finish it in under five bites.

[Nate Thompson]

Okay.

[Kavino]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

It's supposed to be fun.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Supposed to be fun.

[Kavino]

Do you ever think about how you really.

[Julie Sterbinks]

This is my life.

[Kavino]

I know.

[Julie Sterbinks]

I think about my digital footprint, and I, like, shiver.

[Kavino]

Sometimes there are times we think, like, we're faking life. Like, we talk about radio and sports and nonsense for a living job ever. You are like, people are betting on a cheeseburger bites 100.

[Julie Sterbinks]

And it's so funny because, you know, I hear people in my industry, and they're like, oh, my job is so, you know, difficult. And I'm like, we have the best job ever. Like, if you talk to someone in the real world with, like, an actually challenging job, it humbles you real quick.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, yeah.

[Julie Sterbinks]

And I'm so blessed to be able to do what I do every single day. And I. I never take that for granted. I'm so appreciative of my community that allows me to eat cheeseburgers. Like, the best job ever.

[Kavino]

When you walk around, like, a media row like this for a big event like this super bowl, this is your demo. So do you feel that everyone's looking where you're going? Like. Like, she used to that. But I. I've. I saw you walk this way, and every radio booth is like, is that Paige?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Like, oh, really?

[Kavino]

Yeah. Do you get that vibe?

[Julie Sterbinks]

No, I. I think I'm just so desensitized.

[Nate Thompson]

It happened on the golf course. It probably happens all the time.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Well, you know, it's funny because a lot of people think, oh, you must be, like, really confident. And I, like, at my core, I'm, like, deeply insecure. And so sometimes when people look at me, I'm like, is there, like, is there makeup on my teeth? Or, like, is there something wrong? And so when people are, like, looking, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, there's something wrong with me. And I don't think about it in, like, ever a positive way in my life.

[Nate Thompson]

They're trying to read your shirt. That's what it says. I just hope both teams have fun. Have fun again. Paige Brown.

[Julie Sterbinks]

I mean, it was only this really tiny print, right?

[Nate Thompson]

She put it on. I got to ask you this. You're talking about how great the career is, right? But there has to be a weird side or. Or tell us how you balance out the fact that everybody wants to know everything about you because everything's so public, right? And they want to see what you're doing at home, and they want to see all your videos and everything. How do you balance any privacy when you're so public all the time?

[Julie Sterbinks]

When I first started doing this, I was an open book, and I would say everything that just, you know, popped into my head and I realized, like, that's probably not the best thing that you could be doing. And so I still want to keep my authenticity and be genuine because that's how you connect with audience. But there's just certain things that I decided that I'll never talk about, which is like friends, family, any relationships. It's just not worth it. And so when you go on to any of my social media platforms, it's me and me only because I signed up for this. But a lot of people in my life, especially like my best friends, they don't even have social media. And so I don't want to subject them to. There's so much good, but there is also some bad. And I've come to terms with that. But that's not a life for everyone. And so, yeah, there is a balance, but, like, keeping that part of my life separate. And I think it's also helped with the hate too, because it's a Persona that I play, it's a character, and it's not really me or my real life. And I think that separation side of you, though, right? It's my most confident, sexiest, most playful side of me.

[Kavino]

The.

[Julie Sterbinks]

The person I want to be is who I show online. It's who I, like, strive to be that confident.

[Kavino]

It's like Larry David said, he wants to be who he is on.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

But in real life, he just can't.

[Nate Thompson]

And that platform, the platform allows you and expects you to do that. Yeah, at this point, yeah.

[Julie Sterbinks]

I mean, because at the end of the day, it needs to be entertaining. Right. And so, like, if I'm just sitting home and sweats and doing nothing and like, reading, people are not going to find that interesting.

[Kavino]

How, how do you handle hate? I mean, it's easy to say just ignore it all, but there'll be times we'll do a show or an event or like, hey, that was good. And for every nice person, there's an a hole that's saying some stuff. Do you just totally block it all out or are there times where you're like, yeah, people are pretty mean. Like, social media is not a nice place.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Again, I'm like, so desensitized to it now. But I will say that, like, I've noticed that the things that people say that bother me the most are insecurities that I have with myself. And so you do have to. It's going to be cheesy, but, like, you have to, to take that journey of, like, self love and like, figuring out why those comments bother you? So for me, like, I feel like I failed at pro golf. And so when people criticize my golf game early on in my career, that really ate at me because I was insecure about that. And now again, it's a Persona. It's this kind of character that I play up and being able to separate, like, what I do from who I am. And it's hard because as a content creator, you are the brand. And so when someone is criticizing you, they're criticizing the brand or this version that they think they know of you. But I can't sit down and have an hour long conversation with every single person I meet. And I feel if I did, I would change or sway there. Maybe not. Maybe I'm just, you know, very unlikable and like, everything that people say, but, like, once you get to know someone, then you can make a full, you know, judgment on who they actually are. And you just won't get that opportunity with so many people.

[Nate Thompson]

Paige Sporanek. I'm sure you get a lot of hate, but you get a lot of love, too. You have 11 million followers across platforms. You're a celebrity. You said social media celebrity, however you.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Want to put it.

[Rich]

Influencer.

[Kavino]

Do you put that number?

[Nate Thompson]

True, though. That's a lot of people.

[Julie Sterbinks]

That's crazy.

[Nate Thompson]

That's crazy. Cover of Sports Illustrated, you know, Illustrated model, all that stuff. I wanted to ask you. Obviously, a lot of men are reaching out to you all the time. Let's talk about celebrity guys and athletes. Do they hit you up constantly? Are you always seeing it? You don't have to give us names, but it has to be a constant thing.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

Is that fair to assume?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah. A lot of baseball players and hockey players because they love golf. And so that's always like a pretty easy transition. And then some random people sometimes, and I'm like, that was really cool that, like, they know who I am.

[Nate Thompson]

Right, right. Okay.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Like, I just don't. I. Throughout all of this, like, I can't believe I'm doing this. And so it's so weird to me.

[Nate Thompson]

So you notice that though, right? It's not like you just see that dude and you're like, yeah, whatever. You notice it. And you're like, okay, interesting.

[Julie Sterbinks]

I never respond, though, ever. No, because it's. I don't. You don't meet your heroes. That's what I found out in this industry, that most of the time I'm often disappointed. And so I just want to. If I really respect them or like them, I kind of want to keep it as I envision them in my head.

[Kavino]

You don't want to know that they're really a creepo.

[Nate Thompson]

No, but maybe they're not. I mean, you got to respect sometimes people shooting their shot, they're a fan, and they're like, hey.

[Julie Sterbinks]

And I'll never, like. I. I don't like when girls drop names or make it into a big thing because that's like, it's disrespectful. Like, it takes a lot of, like.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, I know what you mean. Like, someone would screenshot it and throw it out there publicly.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah, I think that's so cringy.

[Nate Thompson]

I agree. Yeah, I think.

[Julie Sterbinks]

No, because it takes a lot of courage to, like, slide into someone's dms and then for that then to be blasted online. I. I don't like.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm actually. I'm with you on that. Yeah. I think that's a weak look.

[Kavino]

Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. By the way, when you. When you're around here, are you a big football fan? Are you more like, what, besides golf, what are your sports that you actually enjoy?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah. So my aunt played fresh tennis. My dad played football at Pitt when they won the national championship. My mom was a fresher ballet dancer. My sister ran track at Stanford, and so we have most of the sports covered. Big sports, family. Both my parents are from Pittsburgh, so I bleed black and gold. I know. And so always been a big Pittsburgh fan, but I just love sports. I. It's just.

[Kavino]

It's the best because you have 11 million followers and people know who Paige Spiranek is. Do you have the ability to be like, hey, I want to go meet Russell Wilson. I want to, you know, do you know Coach Tomlin? Like, have you infiltrated that world at all, or.

[Julie Sterbinks]

No, No, I, again, like, I just have such imposter syndrome that, like, I don't even ask or try to do or facilitate those things. Like, I probably could have taken advantage of, like, opportunities, and I just have never done it. But I love Mike Tomlin. I think he's so cool. I think maybe his time at the Steelers is done, but, like, I have always loved the coach.

[Nate Thompson]

When he finds out, he'll be sliding into your DMs next hateful, like, hey, wait, before all this happened for you and the golf, what was, like, your last regular job?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Okay, so I. This is going to be crazy. My parents always said that if you gave your all to sports, that you'd never had to work a job. And so I was able to commit to sports Get a full ride scholarship. And so I never had to work. And then right out of this, no, I worked in my sister's frozen yogurt shop for, like a week. And then I couldn't figure out the cash register, so I just started, like, giving people free yogurt. And I got fired by my sister. But, no, I've never worked, like, a real job, which I'm lucky that I fell into what I do today. But there are so many college athletes who are not able to get internships or not able to get jobs, and they're thrown into the workforce with really no skills other than what they learn through athletics. And it's actually a pretty big problem.

[Nate Thompson]

Wow.

[Kavino]

I. I do tell my kids. I tell my daughter. I'm like, if you get a scholarship, all this money dad saving, you could use it for whatever you want. So scholarships are a big deal.

[Julie Sterbinks]

That's 100. Yeah, they're.

[Nate Thompson]

Because you, you know, you said you didn't really have to work, but what you've done is you've built an empire here. I'm not downplaying that. But she did get fired by her sister, so, yeah, we can't go past that.

[Julie Sterbinks]

I don't even have a college degree because this happened in my. My senior year. And so I wasn't able to graduate. And so I really had to, like, fully lean into this or else. Like, I mean, who would have mountain.

[Nate Thompson]

Right. Exactly.

[Kavino]

Let me ask you one more thing. Paige Sporanek here with Covino and Rich, Fox Sports Radio. Let's say you're on a date, hanging with friends.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah.

[Kavino]

You're going mini golf, topgolf, any of these things. Are you. Are you able to check out and be casual? Or you like looking at people's grips, people's swings? Like, are you able to step aside from golf?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Funny enough, I am terrible at mini golf. Terrible. I am so bad at it. I don't know why. It's like, it's the same thing. I can't figure it out.

[Kavino]

A windmill or a clown's mouth and you're off.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Oh, I just lose it. Like, my mind goes in wild places, and I just can't figure it out. And they're like, well, bank it off here. And I'm like, that's not real golf. Like, I can't do that. No. I try to have as much fun as possible. But if someone's asking for, you know, swing tips, I will always help them.

[Nate Thompson]

And my last question again, Paige Franick, you said you like to have fun aside from golf, what's like your perfect night? What do you like to do? Do you like to binge out on shows? You like to be lazy? Like, like what's your thing?

[Julie Sterbinks]

I mean I look at home. Yeah. It's so funny because I the Persona that, you know, it's kind of been created online is people think it's like fun party girl, like doing all these cool events with like a listers and athletes and my go to night is home with my dog eating ice cream. Like what? Binge watching a show or reading a book and like that is what I love to do.

[Nate Thompson]

That's your happy time.

[Julie Sterbinks]

That's my happy time.

[Nate Thompson]

Relaxing.

[Julie Sterbinks]

What's your show Right now I am one episode away from finishing Yellowstone.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh yeah. We're not on it.

[Kavino]

You watch.

[Nate Thompson]

We're not on it.

[Kavino]

I've been pushing shrinking on him.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, okay.

[Kavino]

TV watch.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Okay, I'll check it out because I'm going to need a new show after Yellowstone is done.

[Nate Thompson]

Tell us about your stuff. Give me props. Sports grid. We got this here, this little.

[Kavino]

Nice.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah. So we, we always want to bring give me props with us everywhere. Last night at opening night we had a couple fun props. One was how long it would take for Travis Kelce to get asked a question about Taylor Swift. Over under was five minutes. I took the under and I won. Another one was how long it would take to get to the front for Saquon Barkley. Over under 45 minutes. We did not succeed on that one. But with the lost pages poker chip, today's challenge is you have to put it on your forearm and then try to catch it. And if you do, you get the belt.

[Nate Thompson]

No, no, I gotta do this over here. I gotta stand up for this bad boy. Hold on. Here's the chip. Oh, come on.

[Rich]

I got it.

[Nate Thompson]

First. First try.

[Julie Sterbinks]

There you go. You get champion.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, buddy. I'll take it. Give me props.

[Rich]

Bell.

[Nate Thompson]

Paige Sporaneck. Thank you guys. I mean follow her. I mean follow us. She's got enough followers.

[Kavino]

We've got plenty.

[Nate Thompson]

Can you save some for, you know, for us?

[Julie Sterbinks]

We can collab.

[Kavino]

Where can people hit you up? Obviously at Paige Sporaneck.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Yeah. All my platforms under my name. Paige Sporanek. On Instagram it's Paige Renee. And then for the lost pages, gimme prop show. You can find it on YouTube under las pages.

[Kavino]

Perfect. A pleasure meeting you.

[Nate Thompson]

Thank you again. Thanks for being on the show. You're welcome by any time. We appreciate it.

[Rich]

Fox Sports radio has the the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Dr. Dennis Black]

Ever notice your dog slowing down and having health issues and wonder, what can I do to make them better? Well, my friend, add rough greens to your dog's food for 90 days, and I guarantee you'll see changes that will amaze you. Greetings, naturopathic doctor Dennis Black, inventor of ruffgreens here, and I invite you to give your pup the ruffed greens 90 day challenge. In the first 30 days, you'll see shinier coats and increased energy. By day 60, your dog will have a stronger immune system, less shedding, improved joint function, all due to the live nutrients that you've added to their diet. And at 90 days, better digestion, reduced inflammation, improved heart health, and you may even have reduced their cancer risk. Fetch your dog a free Jumpstart trial bag today. Go to ruffgreens.com use promo code 90day. That's ruffgreens.com Use promo code 90day. You just cover the shipping. You don't have to change your dog's food to improve your dog's health. Just add a scoop of rough greens.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you, and you texted me back. Like, now I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it, and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.

[Kavino]

There was something sentimental when you. When you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Kavino]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Rich]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing, I speak with musician, photographer, and philanthropist Julian Lennon.

[Isaac Loewencron]

One of the really important things that happened to me in my relationship with photography and the images was that I would have people write to me, people that couldn't financially afford to travel the world or go anywhere, couldn't or were disabled and couldn't travel the world or go anywhere. And what they had all said to me is that you bring these stories to us, you bring the truth, you bring life to us of cultures that we would never necessarily know anything about. Photography really does allow me to do that. Have empathy for people on the other side of the world that you'll never ever meet, but you'll at least have some understanding of what their life is and what they went through or are still going through.

[Rich]

Listen to the new season of here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jon Stewart]

Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondence and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive week weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[AJ Stephens]

Ever wonder what it's like to be on the phone with an NFL general manager as you finalize the biggest contract in NFL history? I'm AJ Stephens, Vice President of Client Strategy at Athletes Athletes first, where we've negotiated $1.4 billion in current NFL quarterback contracts. Introducing the Athletes First Family Podcast, the Quarterback Series, along with my co host Brian Murphy, Athletes first CEO, we're pulling back the curtain on how these historic deals come together. You'll hear directly from the agents who shaped the NFL's financial landscape, the ones who negotiated Justin Herbert's extension and Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract that sent shots shockwaves through the league. This isn't just about the numbers, though. It's about the untold stories behind these massive negotiations and the relationships the NFL superstars like Dak Prescott, Tua Tango Valloa and Jordan Love have with their agents at Athletes First. For the first time ever, the agents who orchestrate these deals are sharing the details of the negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

Hey hey. We are back live from Media Row in Nolens@ TireRack.com studio. Remember, Travis Matthew is apparel designed for confidence, confidence and comfort no matter where the day takes you. We were just hanging out with Paige Spiranak, former pro golfer and she was pretty impressed with our Travis Matthew gear. We have here again for performance driven styles to everyday essentials for men and women. Travis Matthew has you covered. Visit travismathieu.com and receive 20% off your first order when you sign up for email. Again, live from the tire rack.com studio, I'm Covino. That is rich. And for those who don't know, yes, there's a reason Rich was uber giddy in that interview.

[Kavino]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Nate Thompson]

And the reason is underscore page Renee. She's got 4 million followers on IG, over 11 million followers on social media. She's a looker. She leans into it. She was a lot of fun.

[Kavino]

That's. I mean, listen, I was trying to get at the fact that I love when talented, good looking women in sports lean into it because it's like the reality is what do men like? Sports and women. So to pretend that's not the case is silly. I love that she leans into it. You know who else leans into their looks? Isaac Loewencron. Let's go for an update. What's up, ilo? A man that leans into those looks. What's up, buddy boy?

[J]

Do you know it? It transcends the radio airwaves.

[Nate Thompson]

He leans like a cholo.

[J]

So elbows up, side to side. Didn't think I knew that, did you guys?

[Nate Thompson]

No, but you impressed me. Always.

[J]

What can I say, guys? We will start with a story out of Philadelphia, this one not involving the Eagles. It's in the NBA, where the Philadelphia 76ers announced a short time ago that Joel Embiid will be available tonight against the Dallas mavericks after missing 15 due to a sprained foot and knee swelling. Meanwhile, today we got to hear verbally from Luka Doncic for the first time since the big trade as the Los Angeles Lakers held his introductory news conference.

[Rich]

I mean, everybody was surprised.

[Kavino]

So you can imagine how surprised I was.

[Rich]

I was almost asleep.

[Kavino]

So when I got a call, I had to check. It was April 1st.

[Rich]

I didn't really believe it at first.

[Kavino]

And it was a big shock. It was hard moments for me.

[Rich]

It was home.

[J]

Meanwhile, today, new Dallas maverick Anthony Davis described his reaction to the trade.

[Rich]

I was shocked. Everyone else, like I said, I didn't know.

[Julie Sterbinks]

I was actually at home about to.

[Rich]

Watch a movie with my wife. And got the phone call. So I had no idea. I mean, now is. I'm kind of over it and just kind of getting ready to play with Dallas.

[J]

No word how the movie came out.

[Kavino]

Anyway, finally, guys, what movie was it, by the way?

[J]

That's.

[Kavino]

What is it the new Cameron Diaz Jamie Foxx movie? Maybe you're watching this.

[J]

That's what, that's what I wanted to know.

[Nate Thompson]

It was Moana too.

[J]

Okay. It'll be hard pressed to beat any given Sunday. Well, speaking of any given Sunday, finally, in the NFL, regarding the perception that the Kansas City Chiefs purposely get favorable calls, NFL Referees association executive director Scott Green issued a statement today saying, and I quote, it is insulting and preposterous to hear conspiracy theories that somehow 17 officiating crews consisting of 138 officials are colluding to assist one team. To find out how that statement went over with the public, we check the comments section and MRC commented not all refs are in on it. They change the outcome of several games a year with key calls or no calls and critical moments. We all know it. And to pretend it doesn't happen is ridiculous. Unquote. Then finally, VistaTest2 added quote. This is like a cop pulling over a pothead for speeding and the first thing he says is, there's nothing illegal in my car, sir. Unquote. Guys, the key to knowing that you're getting a great perspective on social media is if the username has at least one underscore in it. Back to you guys, no doubt.

[Kavino]

Isaac, always good to hear from you. And by the way, it isn't Isaac. You got to admit, it's pretty funny that they even Roger Goodell and people have to address this. It's wild.

[J]

To me, it's unprecedented that the executive director of the referees association has ever issued a statement. The NBA Referees association has a notable presence on social media, but not in the NFL. But you know what will add fuel to it is if the Chiefs benefit again on Sunday.

[Kavino]

I know. You know what's interesting to me is is that as far as I know, aren't referees in the NFL, unlike other sports where in the off season they're judges and lawyers and making like men of honor. No. Is that sort of the difference too?

[Nate Thompson]

I don't know what ILO thinks about that, but that's bs. Men are men. Men of honor. Get out of here. Look what happened in the NBA. You know, you can't just credit that. If it happened in the NBA, it's possible anywhere, you know, just because of what they do or whatever. Doesn't mean they're great guys. I'm not buying into it. I'm just saying that doesn't really hold a lot of weight with me. Thank you.

[Kavino]

I love.

[Nate Thompson]

Thank you very much, buddy. Appreciate you. We're live from New Orleans, Covino and Rich. And if you just joined us, well, two things. Tomorrow we fill in for Colin Cow Herd in for Colin on the Herd. And we're still doing our regular show, so join us, call in, get involved, and stick around, because lots of people stopping by the show live, lots of interviews. And if you just joined us now, we had Curt Schilling on before, and that's always interesting for me, too, because while I'm a big base, we're both big baseball fans. No doubt. But you always hear, you know, rumblings about Curt Schilling and the type of guy he is and everything couldn't have been cooler. I found him extremely charming. And I think the lesson there is you got to always make your own opinions for yourself. Right.

[Kavino]

Even if that's real life. That's. That's the problem, I think a lot of times these days is that if you disagree with people on a couple issues here or there, like, you discount that person.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, I don't care about his political beliefs. The guy was a great ballplayer. He's fun to talk to. Exactly. And we just were joined by Paige Spiranac, the Sports Illustrated model pro golfer turned influencer. And that was a lot of fun, too. So again, catch it on the podcast. And thanks for being here super bowl week with us now, because it's super bowl week, obviously everybody's talking Eagles, Chiefs, and something we promised yesterday was what's a bigger motivator? Everybody keeps talking about the three. Pete. I've heard nobody except for me bring up the fact, well, what about the revenge game for the Eagles? I mean, I get it. It's an obvious. But that's not a motivation that should be talked about.

[Kavino]

I'm not. I'm not trying to shut you down by any means.

[Nate Thompson]

I don't care. Because you can't. Because I find it to be a motivator. That's my opinion.

[Rich]

Okay.

[Nate Thompson]

You're gonna, like, stop me from believing that.

[Isaac Loewencron]

All right, good.

[Kavino]

I'm glad you said.

[Nate Thompson]

There's so many players that sit there and watch themselves lose a game, and they're watching another team celebrate, and they sit there and they take it in. They say the same thing all the time. I want to remember this because I never want to feel it again. You don't think that's a major motivator for Jalen hurts and his ego to not want to lose again, bro, I'm not saying that makes it an unbeatable motivator, but that is damn well a great motivator. In fact, that would make them hungrier than a team that won twice already.

[Kavino]

How do you say S in Spanish again, Rich?

[Nate Thompson]

Actually, yeah, it means ask. No, I think it's Rico Davis.

[Kavino]

That's how you say because your cabeza is so up your booty.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm not trying to shoot you down or anything, but people who lack are motivated more than people that have. And guess what? These Chiefs have two super bowl championships in the past two years. So to downplay the hunger and appetite of an Eagles team that lost to this team is ridiculous.

[Kavino]

That that's downplaying the the heart of a champion because the challenger was beat. That's horse crap.

[Nate Thompson]

And I'll give you they're not a bad team, dude. They got Saquon Barkley. You don't think that they're leaning into that?

[Kavino]

You're crazy. Maybe you need to re. Listen. To what?

[Nate Thompson]

Who's more motivated in the boxing ring? The guy that's fighting for something or the guy that was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth? The guy that, that wants something because he lacks it is always more motivated than the guy that already has it. Guess what? The Chiefs already have it.

[Kavino]

There's one. There's one caveat, one rub to your stupid thought and Stupid thought, the boxing ring and the UFC Octagon are different. That is a one on one sport. You're right. Some guy that you know was broke and came from a small little village somewhere might have heart. Might have a, you know, more motivation. There's 50 plus guys on this team. And when you say someone wants it.

[Nate Thompson]

More or someone's motivated, what's the greater motivator? Well, guess what, and I'll tell you straight up. There's another company here that let me go. If you don't think that that's greater motivation for me to kick their ass, then you're crazy. It doesn't matter what motivates you. It's how it motivates you. I think what Jalen hurts, experienced, definitely motivates him. Maybe even a little more than Patrick Mahomes winning three in a row every time. There's a big maybe every game seven. You can't act like you're so certain. What's a bigger motivator?

[Kavino]

Every end of a World Series, NBA Championship, NHL, Stanley Cup, Super Bowl. There's always a couple players on the losing team. And Danny background.

[Nate Thompson]

There's always.

[Kavino]

There's always a couple players that like, let the confetti fall on their head or there's always some clown on the top row. The dugout. It was my boy Soto last year.

[Nate Thompson]

Sure.

[Kavino]

They're still on the top row. Like, dude, I get it. You're no more motivated than the guy that walked back in the locker room. Don't give me these theatrics. That Jalen Hurts really took it in two years ago.

[Nate Thompson]

It doesn't guarantee that they're going to win. But if you don't think that hunger is greater than you've never been without. Okay, Rich, let me ask you this question really quick.

[Kavino]

What if you had a mansion already.

[Nate Thompson]

And you were just striving to add on to the mansion? You're not fighting as far as the guy that wants it, or you're in a one bedroom crappy apartment in Reseda, California. That.

[Rich]

But that.

[Kavino]

I. I get what you're saying. On paper, that's a beautiful argument. On paper, guys, but in reality, sometimes someone just better and. And like, I don't care.

[Nate Thompson]

That is the reality. But you're not. We're not saying who's better. We're saying what's the bigger motivator. The guy that wants that mansion is more motivated than the guy that has.

[Kavino]

You don't think Mahomes wants a three peat? You don't think that rich person is like, I gotta stay rich.

[Nate Thompson]

Hold on. It's not about Mahomes not being motivated. I think people are more focused on the three peat motivation for the three peat than the motivation of Jalen Hurts wanting to revenge that loss. No one's talking about that. You don't think revenge is a great motivator?

[Kavino]

I promise you, every day I wake.

[Nate Thompson]

Up with that motivation revenge.

[Rich]

Every sports.

[Nate Thompson]

I wake up every day thinking, I can't wait for everybody to kiss my ass. It's a great motivator, dude. And I don't think anyone's talking about that enough.

[Kavino]

I just feel like revenge in sports is a great thought, but I think the reality is talent will always win. And to say that someone's not motivated when they're in an elite level. It doesn't matter if they won 0 times or try to go for a 3.

[Nate Thompson]

If someone should straight better. I get it that you're right about that. And I think the other question here is, well, maybe that extra mode motivation, right? That extra. I gotta win. I can't lose again. I can't. That could take them out of their focus, out of their game where Mahomes is calm, cool, collected, because he's been there, done.

[Kavino]

So you're telling me then. Well, hold on. I should be excited because Juan Soto stood on the top row of the dugout last year when the Yankees lost the World Series. He should be fired up going into the season as a Met then.

[Nate Thompson]

Absolutely. Oh, you know, hey, he wants to lose again.

[Kavino]

World Series of bust.

[Nate Thompson]

So you think he wants to lose again. It's not about me being right. It's about you downplaying this motivating factor.

[Rich]

All right?

[Kavino]

You give me a headache. I give you a headache every day.

[Nate Thompson]

Now, this is a good debate, and I haven't heard anybody else talking about this.

[Kavino]

Yeah, you know why?

[Nate Thompson]

Because everybody's talking about the three Pete. No one's talking about this guy. You know, avenging the. The major loss that probably haunts him every day.

[Kavino]

Oh, you know what? Hold that thought.

[Rich]

We'll.

[Kavino]

We'll wrap up the show. We got more time.

[Dr. Dennis Black]

Ever notice your dog slowing down and having health issues and wonder, what can I do to make them better? Well, my friend, add rough greens to your dog's food for 90 days, and I guarantee you'll see changes that will amaze you. Greetings naturopathic doctor Dennis Black, inventor of ruffgreens here, and I invite you to give your pup the Ruffgreens 90 Day Challenge. In the first 30 days, you'll see shinier coats and increased energy. By day 60, your dog will have a stronger immune system, less shedding, improved joint function, all due to the live nutrients that you've added to their diet. And at 90 days, better digestion, reduced inflammation, improved heart health, and you may even have reduced their cancer risk. Fetch your dog a free Jumpstart trial bag today. Go to ruffgreens.com use promo code 90day. That's ruffgreens.com Use promo code 90day. You just cover the shipping. You don't have to change your dog's food to improve your dog's health. Just add a scoop of rough greens.

[Jon Stewart]

Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears. On the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews and more. Now, this is the second term we can all get behind. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing With a Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Sterbinks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Sterbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Sterbinks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Sterbinks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Sterbinks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich]

What's up, everyone?

[Kavino]

It's Justin Pennik from John Boy Media.

[Nate Thompson]

The host of the Football Today podcast.

[Kavino]

With Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose.

[Rich]

We roll three times a week.

[Kavino]

On Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get.

[Nate Thompson]

Your podcast and you will be glad.