The Best Of Covino & Rich

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The Best of Covino & Rich" | The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Introduction In the February 1, 2025 episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, titled "The Best of Covino & Rich," hosts Steve Covino and Rich Davis delve into the profound impact that influential figures have on sports teams, brands, and the broader cultural landscape. This episode offers insightful discussions, engaging listener interactions, and thoughtful analysis of unbreakable sports records.

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1. The Power of Celebrity Influence in Sports and Branding

Covino and Davis kick off the episode by exploring how celebrity relationships can significantly boost the popularity and fanbase of sports teams. A prime example discussed is the relationship between Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce:

• [04:00] Rich Davis: "Thanks to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's relationship, Chiefs fandom has spiked over 40%."

They draw parallels to other iconic partnerships that have elevated brands and teams:

• [04:40] Matt Castle: "What Steph Curry meant to Under Armour about what Michael Jordan meant to Nike."

These discussions highlight how strategic alliances with influential personalities can rejuvenate brands and inspire fan loyalty.

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2. Listener Interactions: Recognizing Influential Figures

The episode features listener calls that further illustrate the theme of influential individuals shaping teams and brands:

• [07:10] Brian Custer: "Spike Lee sitting on the sidelines gave Madison Square Garden a new vibe, revitalizing the Knicks."

Covino humorously attributes a resurgence of energy at Fox Sports Radio to their own presence:

• [07:35] Matt Castle: "I like to think my ego tells me that Covino and Rich created a vibe at Fox Sports Radio."

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3. Brian Custer’s Journey in Sports Broadcasting

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Brian Custer’s career trajectory in boxing broadcasting:

• [18:16] Brian Custer: "When I decided to focus solely on boxing, I knew it was a risky move, but it opened doors to national platforms like Showtime and Fox Sports."

Custer shares anecdotes about his rise in the industry, emphasizing the importance of seizing opportunities and maintaining professionalism.

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4. Upcoming Boxing Events: Benavidez vs. Morel

Covino and Davis transition to discussing the highly anticipated fight between Benavidez and Morel:

• [21:24] Rich Davis: "Benavidez looks so focused and in the zone, but his genuine dislike for Morel adds an intense storyline to the fight."

They analyze the fighters' mindsets and strategies, contemplating how personal animosity might influence the bout's outcome.

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5. Unbreakable Sports Records: The Legacy of Nolan Ryan

A deep dive into sports history features a discussion on Nolan Ryan’s unmatched strikeout record in baseball:

• [37:04] Matt Castle: "Nolan Ryan's 5,007 strikeouts could arguably be the most unbreakable baseball record."

Covino and Davis elaborate on Ryan’s enduring legacy, comparing it to other monumental records across various sports, such as Joe DiMaggio’s 56-game hitting streak and LeBron James’ scoring achievements.

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6. The Challenges of Breaking Historic Records in Modern Sports

The hosts explore why certain records remain unbroken, attributing it to evolving sports dynamics:

• [42:49] Rich Davis: "The pressure today makes it nearly impossible for anyone to catch records like Joe DiMaggio’s 56-game streak."

They discuss factors like increased competition, changes in game rules, and the physical toll on athletes that contribute to the longevity of these records.

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7. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

Covino and Davis conclude the episode by reaffirming the significance of legendary figures in shaping sports narratives and inspiring future generations. They encourage listeners to reflect on the enduring impact of these icons and the records that define them.

• [36:42] Rich Davis: "We believe Nolan Ryan’s record will stand the test of time due to its remarkable nature and the changes in the game."

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Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis [04:00]: "Thanks to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's relationship, Chiefs fandom has spiked over 40%."

• Matt Castle [04:40]: "What Steph Curry meant to Under Armour about what Michael Jordan meant to Nike."

• Brian Custer [18:16]: "When I decided to focus solely on boxing, I knew it was a risky move, but it opened doors to national platforms like Showtime and Fox Sports."

• Matt Castle [37:04]: "Nolan Ryan's 5,007 strikeouts could arguably be the most unbreakable baseball record."

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Conclusion

"The Best of Covino & Rich" episode offers a rich tapestry of discussions that highlight the symbiotic relationship between influential personalities and the sports industries they touch. Through engaging narratives and expert analysis, Covino and Davis provide listeners with a deeper understanding of how legends shape the present and future of sports.

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Note: This summary omits advertisements, promotional segments, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions of the episode.

Transcript

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[Brian Custer]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Brian Custer]

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[Rich Davis]

People like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd.

[Steve Covino]

I love writing more than anything. You're left alone, you know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon. Go pick up a kid from school and right at night, and after nine hours, you come out with seven pages and then you're, you're moving on.

[Brian Custer]

Listen to here's the thing on the.

[Rich Davis]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, thanks for listening to the Best of Cavino and Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Matt Castle]

Find your local station for Cavino and [e-mail] or stream live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Hey, welcome back to the show. Covino and Rich live from Vegas. Live from the Benavidez Radio row at the MGM and the TireRack.com studio. Rapid radios. They're the walkie talkie for the big game, Rapid Radio. We brought them to Vegas, we're bringing them to New Orleans. They're push to talk offering national LTE coverage. No subscription ever. Perfect for instant contact with your friends. We use them on the show. Go to rapidradios.com now for up to 60% off and free shipping.

[Rich Davis]

I didn't see it in your carry on. Where'd you put it?

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Again, I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis back in la. We got Sam and Bersch and Byer with your updates. Danny G, super producing spot, he's here on the videos. And we got Brian Custer stopping by later on. Never know who's going to stop by Radio Row. And Benavidez, the Mexican monster was on our show yesterday. So catch that on the podcast.

[Rich Davis]

All right, so a little boxing, a little bit. But watch the NFL today.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

The story this morning was that obviously Travis Kelce had a decline his invitation to the Grammys this weekend because he's preparing for something called the Super Bowl. Yeah, but the daughter of the chief's owner, Gracie Hunt said that thanks to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's relationship, chief fandom has spiked over 40%. And it gets you wondering what other team shows, networks, actors like who has propelled a product, a team, a city. And there are some good answers. What Caitlin Clark did to the wnba, you were saying the Sopranos, what that did to Sunday night cable television. There's great answers. Let's go to you guys.

[Matt Castle]

You know, I'm also thinking you mentioned Steph Curry and what he meant to the Golden State Warriors. Right. But what about Steph Curry meant to Under Armour about what Michael Jordan meant to Nike.

[Rich Davis]

That is true.

[Matt Castle]

These were companies that weren't doing that great until these guys put it on the map. So 87799 on Fox is our number. What comes to mind?

[Rich Davis]

That's funny you would say that, right? I want to go the phones. But it's funny you would say products, because when you watched Air, if you haven't Great movie.

[Matt Castle]

It was really great.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Ben Affleck and who else was in that?

[Matt Castle]

Matt Damon.

[Rich Davis]

Matt Damon. You watch that movie. And yes, I said as Flux. You realize Nike was a running shoe company that was like, financially, you know, taking big chances. And that chance paid off. I was just looking at the Pixar company. Pixar was hemorrhaging money and was looking for buyers they were going to shut down. Toy story made over $300 million. And since then, like, Pixar cleaned up.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. You often hear about movies that save the company that saved the production company, or artists that saved the record label that was going nowhere. So again, we gave you our examples. The Taylor Swift effect is real, whether you like it or not. People did hit us up on social media at covinoenrich. Well, what happens when he retires? Well, I think they still keep their alliance to the Chiefs because these are clearly casual fans that had no alliance or allegiance to a team.

[Rich Davis]

So maybe moving forward, it's like, yeah, I guess I'm a Chiefs fan.

[Matt Castle]

The rest of their life. When people ask, who do you root for? Like, yeah, I mean, I kind of got into the Chiefs, and that's the merch they're going to lean toward for the rest of their life and maybe even pass that down for their kids. So what she did for that franchise is amazing.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, we were talking about record companies.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

If you saw Straight out of Compton, you know, some of the Story of Priority Records. Yeah, they were releasing lots of compilation albums. They even released the California Raisins, the singing cartoon characters.

[Rich Davis]

My wife loved those. She said, as a kid, remember those? The Claymation Raisins.

[Steve Covino]

And then they signed this little group called nwa Put them on the map, dude saved it. The rest is history.

[Matt Castle]

So cool. Yeah, there's a lot of stories like that of record labels that were just going nowhere, failing, ready to fold, and then someone busts out and they're the next big thing.

[Rich Davis]

All right, who do we got on the phones? Danny Garrett.

[Steve Covino]

All right, let's start with Tony in Virginia.

[Rich Davis]

Yo, what's up? Tom Covino, Retro in Vegas, then headed to New Orleans. What's up?

[Brian Custer]

Listen, I wanted to go along the lines of the Taylor Swift external influence. The Knicks were more fun franchise. Madison Square Garden was dead until Spike Lee started sitting on the sidelines. And then we got the 30 for 30 with Reggie Miller, and that got that whole thing revived. So that's.

[Rich Davis]

That is not a crazy answer at all. Spike Lee, what he did courtside for the Knicks, it gave him a vibe in the 90s when, you know, you had Ewing, stalls, Anthony Mason, all those great characters. But to deny that Spike Lee created a vibe, that it was must watch basketball courtside.

[Matt Castle]

I like to think my ego tells me that Covino and Rich created a vibe at Fox Sports Radio like the studio was dead. The only person at the studio was Big Mike, who runs the place. But at the same time, Covid sort of ended around that time. So it really had nothing to do with us, but I like to think it did.

[Rich Davis]

No, I'm. I'm convinced that we brought the energy and fun back to Fox Sports Radio.

[Matt Castle]

My ego says, yo, we brought this place back to life. But really, people just went back to work. I know.

[Steve Covino]

You guys just made me think of Barry Bonds, who built the stadium, the baseball stadium in San Francisco. What did it start off as? His Pac Bell Park?

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it.

[Steve Covino]

That wouldn't have been built had there been no Barry Bonds.

[Rich Davis]

You know, I saw a clip of Barry Bonds. Speaking of which, not to be ADD radio, but during the strike season in baseball, he said he would have been 5050. He's like, what Ichiro did is amazing. He wasn't trying to take anything away. But he said, you know, that was his best shot at 50, 50. And he's like, I would have done it. He's like, a lot of guys would hit 60 home runs that you're good.

[Matt Castle]

I mean, Mickey Mantle is famously quoted for saying, if he knew 40, 40 was the thing, he'd done it any every year. So 50, 50, possibly. Back to your phone calls. 87799 on Fox again at Covino and Rich.

[Steve Covino]

All right, let's say what's up to Dave in Vermont.

[Rich Davis]

Yo, what up, Dave?

[Matt Castle]

Hey, listen.

[Brian Custer]

So what's up, boys? I was thinking Peyton Manning with the Colts, because that before he was there, he took it. It was like a basketball town. You know, he boosted football, turned it into a football town.

[Rich Davis]

You know how I know this is true? Because when we were kids, if you got a Colt's helmet out of the supermarket vending machine, you ain't kidding, dude. You were mad.

[Matt Castle]

And by the way, I grew up in New Jersey and Rich grew up in Long island, and we have the same exact memory of trying to get those little helmets in that quarter machine at the supermarket. You got a Colts one, you might as well stomped on it right then and there.

[Rich Davis]

To say that Peyton Manning made the Colts relevant, made him cool, might be the understatement of the. Of the 90s and the 2000s in football.

[Matt Castle]

Made them cool. And that's how you know the. The power of somebody, the impact of an important player like a Peyton Manning. All right, so again, we're Covino and Rich, and I know you have Taylor Swift and Chiefs fatigue, but the facts are the facts, and they're going to be in the super bowl and probably more than ever going to watch because of it.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Brian Custer]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Matt Castle]

Alonso to the Mets. Are we doing requests and dedications?

[Rich Davis]

I mean, I hope he comes back, right, Cavino.

[Matt Castle]

And live from the Benavidez Radio row In Vegas, the Tyrack.com studio, I'm Steve Cavino. That is Rich Davis. Super pumped about the fight. And then from Vegas, we go right to New Orleans for the Super Bowl.

[Rich Davis]

So hope you packed enough chonies.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, my goodness. We're going to do a lot of damage, put it this way. And to be honest, I don't know if I have enough chonies. But you never know who's going to stop by Radio Row. And it's a pleasure to welcome our next guest, our first guest here in Vegas right now. Got to take you back to 2013. Covino and Rich. We started doing TV SNY in New York, and there were two guys that walked around that place was super swag, sense of confidence. One of those guys, Kevin Burkhart.

[Brian Custer]

Yeah, right.

[Matt Castle]

Always so cool. But he had that swag about him. And the other guys to my left, let's welcome Brian Custer. So good to see you, man. And it really does say a lot to me. And I think a lot of people listening when they're the new guys and the veteran guy is there and he's cool to the new guys because he's so confident in himself, in what he does. And you were that guy to us for sure. We'll always appreciate that.

[Brian Custer]

Listen, I thought you guys were hilarious. That's number one. Number two, it trips me out that when I'm driving around now and I'm listening to my Sirius XM radio and I turn on the FS1 and Fox radio and all of a sudden I'm hearing Cavito Rich. I'm like, I knew them when I knew them when.

[Matt Castle]

Can you believe that was 20? Ain't that crazy, yo?

[Brian Custer]

Isn't that crazy? What's even more crazy is Kevin Burkhart when he was in studio, because obviously he was the Mets reporter. And so when they had home games, he would come into the studio and his desk was across from mine.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Brian Custer]

And we would sit there like, man, I gotta get outta here.

[Matt Castle]

And I gotta tell you, we saw these dudes on their grind, and we knew as guys, you know, coming up and working there for the first time again, sny, New York, we saw guys like you, and we're like, yeah, it's only a matter of time before they move on and blow up to something bigger.

[Brian Custer]

That's why it was great for our careers. So I love. I love it every time I see it.

[Matt Castle]

We look back at those days, extremely fond of that time and of what we did as well. But he was hosting a show called the Wheelhouse. The Wheelhouse at the time, which was huge in New York. And we'd watch it every day, especially Rich.

[Rich Davis]

As a Mets fan, I thought it was the coolest place to work as a Mets fan. And then Brian, I see you, and I'm like, I feel like Brian knows a little of everything. Is boxing something you always gravitated towards, or is it just a pocket that you're like, yo, I'm really. This is. This is for me.

[Brian Custer]

No, I'll give you. I'll give you a really. A really good story. You know, at the time when I was at sny, you know, they had a. They had a show on there called Broadway Boxing.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Brian Custer]

And I. I was doing that. And, you know, we would do local fights all around the city. I never got paid to do them at all.

[Matt Castle]

It just did them.

[Brian Custer]

It just did them. And, you know, one day, just out of the blue, president of Showtime Sports called S and Y and said, can I speak to Brian Custer? He said, look, I'm in town in New York, and I'm watching this program, Broadway Boxing. And how would you like to be the voice and the face of Showtime Championship?

[Matt Castle]

Wow. Again, that's how.

[Brian Custer]

That's how I got the job at Showtime.

[Matt Castle]

I love that story because we always say, you never know who's watching. No matter what you're doing, you never know who's watching you and who's got your eye on you. And you were doing great work back then. So again, just from the outside looking in, you left Sny. You left us in the dust. And, you know, we were doing our show Sny to Showtime, and, you know the boxing stuff. And then, of course, I seen you on SportsCenter and ESPN and Prime. So tell us, like, tell us about.

[Brian Custer]

The Journey, the crazy thing. Another story about that. When, when he could call.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Brian Custer]

At the time, you remember, Kurt Gowdy Jr. Was the vice president of, of Snyder, of course.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Brian Custer]

So I told him my contract was coming up at the end of the year. And this, at this time, I want to say it might have been August or September. And I went into Kurt's office and I said, you know what? This has been a great, you know, nine, 10 years or whatever it was that I was there. And I just said, I think it's, it's something time for me to change. And I think I'm just going to do boxing full time at this point. And I remember Kurt Gowdy Jr looked at me and said, what are you doing? And he said, that's probably be the dumbest thing you've ever done in your career. And I'm telling you this because I love you is what he said. He said boxing is dead and your career will be dead if you do this.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Because you were covering all sports to now just boxing.

[Brian Custer]

And so I left, but I left and went to Showtime. And as soon as I went to Showtime Sports, everybody called me. It was like from radio to Fox. And at that time, Fox Sports called me because that's how I got the job at Fox Sports. I was calling, you know, college basketball, college football games at Fox Sports. Sirius XM Radio called me. I had a show on Sirius XM Radio.

[Matt Castle]

Love that.

[Brian Custer]

Everything came because I made that move because they saw me on the, on the national platform.

[Matt Castle]

And that was a risky move you bring up.

[Rich Davis]

You know, is boxing your specialty? Because Jim Lampley has told us that they assigned him boxing when he first started as a way to be like, get him out of here.

[Brian Custer]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And that was not even something he was interested, hoping he failed to say they could get rid of him. So, you know, we've noticed over the last 10 plus years of doing a lot of these boxing events, the boxing world is very welcoming.

[Brian Custer]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Like, if you want to be in it, they. There's no egos, honestly, in the press area. Everyone. You want to cover us? Come on.

[Brian Custer]

Absolutely. You know, the good thing is that you, you open it up to a broader audience and, you know, like, people ask me all the time about the YouTubers and Jake Paul. Hey, look, I'm not one of those purists to say, oh, boxing should only be that. Hey, if we can get more eyes to the sport.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, yeah, it's good for it.

[Brian Custer]

Oh, yeah, it's good for it.

[Matt Castle]

Any thoughts on the fight? This weekend, I think it's gonna be really.

[Brian Custer]

Let me tell you something. And I'm not just shilling for prime, but if you look at this fight card.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Brian Custer]

Especially the pay per view, those are four really good fights.

[Rich Davis]

I was gonna say never. Never. Do you see the. The billboards and the posters with four fights? Because they're all good fights.

[Brian Custer]

All good fights. I mean, at the top, everybody's been wanting to see Benavidez and Morell.

[Rich Davis]

It's like, we're gonna have to get dinner early because we're not gonna want to miss these fights.

[Brian Custer]

Fulton and Figueroa, that fight was so good. The re. Everyone's crying for the rematch.

[Rich Davis]

Pitbull.

[Brian Custer]

People love Pitbull.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, he sucked and he's coming off a loss. So we want him to see, you know, where he is now in that division. You know, I wanted to ask you about this because we had Benavidez on the show yesterday, and he looks so focused and so in the zone. And the Mexican monster. I love everything about this kid. Right. But he seems to be in a different mindset now because he genuinely dislikes Morel. That's the storyline.

[Brian Custer]

Yes.

[Matt Castle]

Because he talks so much smack about.

[Rich Davis]

His family and his father.

[Matt Castle]

Everything else. Does that help or hurt a fighter? It makes it more exciting for the fans, no question, when they dislike each other. But does it take him too much out of his own? What are your thoughts on that?

[Brian Custer]

I think that that's going to be really crucial for both of these guys because of the. The dislike is real.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Brian Custer]

And you don't want to come out there firing away at the beginning. That's when you make mistakes.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Brian Custer]

So if you're morale, you got to keep your cool. If you're Benavidez, you got to keep your cool to some point. Now, I understand you want to give a guy a beating, but you. You start talking stuff once you hurt him, not when you come right out the gate, because then that's when you can make mistakes and you get clipped.

[Rich Davis]

Hang in with Brian Custer here on Fox Sports Radio. Cavino and Rich. Now, we were talking to Benavidez about it yesterday. You're calling the fights?

[Brian Custer]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

These ring introductions and walkouts went from a couple minutes, I think. What? What? Last time we were at a Fury fight, it's like 15, 20 minutes. Are they a little overboard or do you love the spectacle?

[Brian Custer]

But I think it's now it's almost like in the NBA. You know how in the NBA now it's like a. A walk. It's like A fashion show. When they, when they walk through the hall, coming to the. That's what it is for boxing. They take the ringwalk. So if you're like, let's say we have Tank. We have Tank in Barclays in there in a month, right? You know, Tank is going to come with the hottest hip hopper.

[Matt Castle]

You almost have to. Now you're not bringing it right now.

[Brian Custer]

Bring it. And so now it is all about how can I have better speed?

[Matt Castle]

As doesn't come out with Mariachi.

[Rich Davis]

He told us he's bringing out artists. You have to.

[Matt Castle]

You have to or else you're not big time.

[Rich Davis]

You're not big time anymore. Which is why when, when Tyson fought Jake Paul.

[Brian Custer]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

And Tyson just walked out. Everyone's like, just what? He just walked out.

[Brian Custer]

What are you doing?

[Matt Castle]

We asked him about that too. He's like, I don't know, I just walked out. Nobody was with you. Nobody even wanted to be with me. Nobody wanted to be with you. It's so weird, man. What did you think of that fight, by the way? You said you love the exhibitions. You love the Jake Paul stuff.

[Brian Custer]

I thought, I thought it was going to go the. It was. Everyone was like, oh, but, but you know, we're, we're married to, to the, the 30 year old, 28 year old Mike Tyson. The man's 58 years old and he needs, you know, medication. Stay level.

[Rich Davis]

Brian. I was the fool. I heard Portnoy on barstool saying, any dope that bet on Tyson? I, I was one of those. Because, you know, we were, we were betting with our heart and we were thinking it was 1990 again.

[Brian Custer]

Absolutely. And you saw after that second, you.

[Rich Davis]

See his, them legs he had.

[Brian Custer]

After the second round, he was done.

[Rich Davis]

After the first round, I was like, like I should have just lit those couple hundred dollars on fire.

[Matt Castle]

You threw that out the window for sure. It's Cavino and Rich Radio Ro Vegas here with Brian Custer. It's great to be here. You mentioned Gervonte Davis. We asked Benavidez, what fight besides you and Canelo? Canelo, what fight do you want to see? He said a rematch between him and Garcia with no weight clause.

[Brian Custer]

Wow.

[Matt Castle]

How do you think that goes? And what do you think of that division too? There's so many great fighters.

[Brian Custer]

I still was, I was still Tank. I was still going Tank, without question.

[Matt Castle]

With a, like a healthy Garcia without question, without.

[Brian Custer]

Because listen, you know, with. Right, he gonna throw the life hook. Devin Haney, he's gonna throw the left hook. What did Devin Haney get hit with the left hook so he couldn't hit Tank really with that left hook. And his boxing skills are too superior for me.

[Matt Castle]

Dude, you imagine sitting next to Brian Custer at the barbershop and everyone's spitting their opinion, and this guy, meanwhile, this guy's calling the fight. Did he recognize you all the time when you're at the barbershop?

[Brian Custer]

You know, when I'm around now, yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Wait a second. He's the guy.

[Rich Davis]

What do you think?

[Brian Custer]

Here's the crazy thing. It's. I trip out even more when I'm out and people be like, yo, Sny.

[Rich Davis]

I'm from Sny.

[Matt Castle]

That's crazy, right?

[Brian Custer]

That's. That's even more crazy. But I'm proud of y'all, man.

[Rich Davis]

Continued success. We. We love rooting for you, man. Brian Custer, Kavino and Rich. Then we got more next talk. A little NFL, little NBA, and of course, more preview of this weekend, Benavidez Moral and your thoughts. Thoughts at Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. More next. Live from Las Vegas, FOX Sports Radio.

[Brian Custer]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you, and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the updates, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it, and the heart's a little pink. It felt like, I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.

[Rich Davis]

There was something sentimental when you. Like when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Rich Davis]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Davis]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Matt Castle]

A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the sec.

[Tisha Allen]

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[Rich Davis]

Very few companies who go viral are, like, totally prepared for what that means.

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[Rich Davis]

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[Tisha Allen]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Tisha Allen]

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[Rich Davis]

How you doing?

[Matt Castle]

How you doing?

[Rich Davis]

Friday let's go buddy.

[Matt Castle]

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[Rich Davis]

And you know what Kavino? After the show, make sure you check out the podcast. Not only do we have our over pro over promised bonus podcast this week and next week additional bonus podcast. Especially next week when we're in New Orleans for the Super Bowl. There's going to be a lot of NFL interviews that don't make the regular show, so can't wait for all that. Already lining up some great NFL stars for next week.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, so we'll get more insight maybe from a Jim Lampley or I don't know, a Steve Covino perhaps we'll break down the fight on the bonus pod. Just search Cavino Wrench wherever you stream your podcast right now. Again live from the mgm. And a quick thanks to New York New York for hosting us too. We're staying at the New York New York, so if you see us drink, sign you. But it's always great to be out here in Vegas having a great time, excited for the fight tomorrow. You proud of me for what not gambling yet.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

You really haven't?

[Rich Davis]

Nope, not a dime.

[Steve Covino]

And Rich's wife actually gave him the green light to go ahead and gamble little Benny's college fund.

[Rich Davis]

You know, when you turn to your significant other, hoping they say one thing.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

I turned to my wife and I said, you know, we got a really action packed great time coming up for Fox Sports. Me, Cavino, Danny G. We're gonna be in Vegas, New Orleans, eating, drinking money. And my. I said to my wife, I go, you know what? I think when we're in Vegas, I'm gonna lay low, maybe I won't gamble and just, I'll just chill. She's like, yeah, but you work so hard. You deserve it. Have fun. I'm like, why would you say that?

[Matt Castle]

Oh, so you weren't kidding.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I was like, I wanted my. I was waiting for my wife to be like, probably a good idea. And she's like, no, have fun.

[Matt Castle]

So basically, if he wasn't on the casino floor gambling, he was probably in his room doing something weird. So it's not like he was upstairs being an angel. Right.

[Rich Davis]

So I don't know if that's weird.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Either way, he's doing something devious. Trust me. The Velvet Wolf. Rich Davis, I'm Cavino. Spotty's here. Danny G. Thank you.

[Rich Davis]

You just transitioned my. You blame yourself because you say things and then when I go on a tangent, don't blame me.

[Matt Castle]

Believe yourself.

[Rich Davis]

You said hotel rooms. Deviant stuff. I just read an article about what not to do if you're traveling in a hotel and you're staying in a hotel.

[Matt Castle]

What not to do.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Don't lay on the bedspread. They don't wash them in most places. Maybe here at the MGM in New York, New York they do. But most places, they don't wash the bedspread.

[Matt Castle]

Barf.

[Rich Davis]

They're saying, you know those.

[Matt Castle]

Well, that's true because they just change out the sheets.

[Rich Davis]

You know the glasses in the bathroom that you probably put your toothbrush in or something. Them. They're saying, don't count on them washing them. Like, don't think like, oh, clean glass like that might be there.

[Matt Castle]

And I always see on social media, you're supposed to tape over the. The outlets because that's where the hidden cameras are.

[Rich Davis]

True. The other one I saw was do not just grab the remote control. Wipe down the remote if you have any type of wipe. They said the remote control might be the dirtiest thing in a hotel room.

[Matt Castle]

You know, I saw a comedian.

[Rich Davis]

Most people stick Them? No.

[Matt Castle]

You know that dude, Eric D'Alessandro? He's like an East Coast Italian kid.

[Rich Davis]

Really funny guy.

[Matt Castle]

He goes, what is it with remote controls? We don't need them smaller. He goes, it's not like we're packing them up and taking them on the road with us. Why do they keep making them small? If anything, make them bigger. Because we always lose them.

[Rich Davis]

But that's a great point.

[Matt Castle]

We need remote controls to be smaller and smaller and smaller. Are you packing them up for the plane ride? Absolutely not.

[Rich Davis]

The Roku remote now is honestly like three inches. Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

He's like, it's not a cell phone. We don't need a smaller. He goes, if anything, make it bigger because you always lose it. But anyway, thank you guys for being here on the show. We're in Vegas. Crazy thoughts, crazy things happen, crazy people stop by. And I do want to say this, a big thanks to Brian Custer for stopping by. He's the guy that calls the fights. He's the guy you've seen hosting SportsCenter. You see him at every fight. If you don't know, follow him on social media. Guy knows what he's talking about. And he's a good dude. And we worked with him over 10 years ago. And to see him do his thing on a big level and see us come up, it's been cool for us and it's cool to catch up with him. So big shout out and thanks again to Brian Custer. I was going to ask him. We didn't have time. Maybe, maybe we'll ask Jim Lampley on our bonus show if Benavidez wins. And it looks like he is. But who knows? Anything could happen is boxing.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, this is a closer odds than most fights we've covered. And usually you're the guy that's like, bro, anyone's got a puncher's chance. He's only a minus 200ish underdog favorite. I mean, so it's not like Benavidez is just going to stroll through this fight.

[Matt Castle]

Well, the winner of this fight fights the winner of Beville. Better be ev later this year, by the way. Morals.

[Rich Davis]

Undefeated as well.

[Matt Castle]

Exactly. So who does he think wins that? And I wanted to know which is the better fight, Canelo Crawford or Canelo Benavidez? Cause those are the two fights that people always talk about. And to me, when you see how big Benavidez is, I think Canelo Crawford is the better fight.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, you constantly point out that while Canela seems unbeatable, anytime he's gone up, that's when he's lost.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, because you lose your power. He's five foot seven, dude. You know, these guys are big. Benavidez is six foot two and he walks around at 200 pounds. Canelo's not that big. So anyway, thank you again to Brian Custer. We'll talk to Jim Lampley about it here. And if you have any thoughts. 87799 on Fox. We got to talk about records being broken because today is a very special day. It's Friday.

[Rich Davis]

Friday, before a fight weekend, light 78 candles.

[Matt Castle]

78 candles for who? One of the greats of all time. In fact, when we talk about the Ghost oats, it's a name that we often don't bring up, but we probably should.

[Rich Davis]

You know why we don't bring him up? I'll tell you why. Because he never want to cy young. That's like the random fun fact that shouldn't be the.

[Matt Castle]

But you're right.

[Rich Davis]

You know, early on, as a Met, yes, but as an angel, as an Astro, as a Ranger, never won a World Series.

[Matt Castle]

He won on that 60, 19. Yeah, but I'd say, besides, he was a young kid.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, but that was like a non factor. Nolan Ryan. NOLAN Ryan turns 78 today and he.

[Matt Castle]

Probably still throws gas.

[Steve Covino]

Same number of punches, too. He hit Robin Ventura to candle for.

[Matt Castle]

Every punch to Ventura's head.

[Rich Davis]

And if you've, you know, seen that documentary Facing Nolan, which was fantastic, I urge you to check that out. Honestly, it's a great watch.

[Matt Castle]

If you're a sports fan, you'll enjoy it.

[Rich Davis]

I think you don't even need to be. Because he talks about how his wife really kept him in baseball. He was going to quit after the Mets when he was contemplating, what's my next move. He's a farmer type of guy. He's like a. His passion is ranching. Ranching?

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. He's a Jolly Rancher.

[Rich Davis]

When they said, Nolan Ryan, you're in New York and now we're sending you to Southern California to play for the Angels, he was like, yeah, I think I'm done. And his wife's like, nolan, baseball, it's your passion.

[Matt Castle]

It was the story behind every great man is a great woman. It really was. That was the story.

[Rich Davis]

If you watch this documentary, you really realize this guy was unbelievable. And not only was he just throwing gas, you know, the rumor is that at one point, if the radar guns were the way they are today, it would have been like 108. Like his strikeout record. If you go to Fox Sports, Instagram and Twitter, in honor of Nolan Ryan. They put up unbreakable records. And they said Nolan Ryan's 57 14, 5714 strikeouts could arguably be the most unbreakable baseball record.

[Matt Castle]

For so many reasons, too. I mean, the longevity the guy had. Do a little quick search of Ru. How many years he played over 20 years.

[Rich Davis]

Can I give you a little, a little quick quiz?

[Matt Castle]

How come the dude was pitching nine innings, you know, at a time?

[Rich Davis]

Give me, give me the time and.

[Matt Castle]

ERA of complete games.

[Rich Davis]

Give me number two. I don't want to pay you on the spot, but number, number two. Number two, all time strikeouts.

[Matt Castle]

Number two. Lefty. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

You're asking me number two, all time behind number.

[Matt Castle]

Okay, Randy Johnson, correct the window.

[Rich Davis]

And he has 4800, almost 1000 less strikeouts. So when you talk about.

[Matt Castle]

Sorry for the pause there. I wasn't sure what Rich was asking me, but yeah, that, that's, that's insane. Randy Johnson, who we all saw, the big unit, so dominant in his era, is still so far behind Nolan Ryan.

[Rich Davis]

I said, was my question tough? I said, who's number two?

[Matt Castle]

Did you think?

[Rich Davis]

I said, who does number two work for? Who does number two work for? I didn't know what the hell you were asking me.

[Matt Castle]

I, I just was looking at Rich. What does he want from me right now?

[Rich Davis]

Who's number two?

[Matt Castle]

I thought you were asking me to ask you something. But anyway, Randy Johnson comes to mind immediately when you think of the Rocket.

[Rich Davis]

Roger Clemens is number three with 4,600. You're talking about some of the best ever have like a thousand less strikeouts. So you could argue that his strikeout record.

[Matt Castle]

Well, hold on, put this in perspective. The milestone for strikeouts, it's probably different now. I wouldn't even know what it is now. It's probably 2000. But the milestone or landmark for the hall of fame is 3,000 strikeouts. 3,000 strikeouts or more. That's the goal. I don't even think CC Sabathia had that, did he? No, he did. He didn't have 300 wins. Okay, it's 300 wins, 3,000 strikeouts. Nolan Ryan had 5,000 plus. That's insane.

[Rich Davis]

All right, let me, I'll just put this in perspective for you. Last year, Skubal led the league with 228 strikeouts. So 228 solid year, though. 228, yeah. Times a 20 year career. He'd still still be 1200 shy of Nolan Ryan.

[Matt Castle]

That's insane. That's how good he was.

[Rich Davis]

So when you think of unbreakable records, Light him up. Let's check.

[Matt Castle]

He was such a sturdy dude. Big old Texan, high leg kick. Really used those legs. So durable. And again, you only think of guys like, like the rocket, honestly, when you think of guys like him made up.

[Rich Davis]

Of the same sort of a Texan also.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

You know what you think of when I picture, like, who's like a specimen of a pitcher, and it's usually guys that get hurt, like a Noah Syndergaard, like a ripped big guy. Guys like Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens. They almost appear to me to have, like, more like old guy dad strength.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, they're sturdy. Like, sturdy.

[Rich Davis]

Great words.

[Matt Castle]

I saw Roger Clemens recently. Still throwing gas.

[Rich Davis]

Like, you're like your dude. Giancarlo Stanton is a specimen, but he's.

[Matt Castle]

Hurt all the time.

[Rich Davis]

He's hurt all the time.

[Matt Castle]

I know. It's so weird. Those are very special dudes, man. So Nolan Ryan should be in the goat conversation. It's his 78th birthday. Congrats to him. But his record really is unmatched. And, you know, I'm gonna just get this out of the way, Rich, because it's, I think, like the common answer when people have these questions. So I'll kick it off. We open it up to you. Fox Sports Radio Nation live from Vegas at the MGM Grand. 87799 on Fox at Covino and Rich, 87799 on Fox. Call and say what's up? And let us know what you think will never be broken. But anytime this comes up. Well, there's two. There's two. Yeah. The one I'm going with is the 56 game.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, that. No, see, I disagree.

[Matt Castle]

I know you're gonna say Cal.

[Rich Davis]

I. I think that. But I think that lightning could strike, and I think a guy could get hot. I think the social media and the world of pressure in 2025 would get to a guy. But I don't think that's. I don't think that's off the table.

[Matt Castle]

I don't think anybody catches.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, the closest is What? Pete Rose, 44 was the closest after that.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Joe DiMaggio, 56 games. And he could have. Could have gone longer. But that's just one of those things that it's just so hard to break. And you see how the pressure grows. You see when Judge was chasing 62, how the pressure just grew and grew and grew. Yeah. So even more so worse today than yester year to break these records. So I already said it. I thought Rich was going to say Cal Ripken. That's Another one that's never going to be broke. Cuz the culture's so different.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Now if you see a guy play one season now, like, like, you know, I've been talking way too much about Pete Alonzo.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

You know, last year he played 162 games.

[Matt Castle]

That's amazing.

[Rich Davis]

Imagine doing that for like 20 years.

[Matt Castle]

Reason though, for him to be highly considered, to be a man met.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Let's take it to the NBA for a minute.

[Matt Castle]

Sure.

[Steve Covino]

LeBron passed Kareem Abdul Jabbar to become the NBA's all time scoring leader. Last season that record had stood for 40 years. And if Adam Silver does go ahead with his idea of maybe shortening the NBA games, nobody's going to touch LeBron. And how many more seasons is the King going to play?

[Rich Davis]

And think about the circumstances in which LeBron started playing as a teenager.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Rich Davis]

And now going to be playing post 40.

[Matt Castle]

So you got to have that longevity and skill level. Like give me a break. Yeah, that's a good one, Danny G. Because as a kid you thought no one would catch Kareem.

[Rich Davis]

You know, this is an interesting one. Let me throw one at you. And I'm curious what you guys think.

[Matt Castle]

But it took a special, special dude at a really early age to do that.

[Rich Davis]

We saw Kobe go for 81 and it seemed miraculous the fact that Wilt has that hundred point game. There's no circumstance in which I think.

[Matt Castle]

A guy could bedroom records. You think anyone will ever break those or no. I don't know.

[Rich Davis]

That girl's trying to sleep with a thousand dues in one day.

[Matt Castle]

Right. I would say his bedroom records are more impressive.

[Rich Davis]

I mean that is true. But 100 points in a game that would. It would have to be like a triple quadruple overtime where it's like 150 to 130 and a guy goes off. But still 100 points. Who would be even capable that If Steph would just. 3, 3, 3. If there's a four point line, maybe in the future that's unattainable. But let me go to the NFL. I think that when we talk about records, there's a dude that doesn't get enough credit, even a little to me, and I'm not being a homer as a 49ers fan. What Jerry Rice meant to the wide receiver position goes so under the radar because he played with Montana and Young and he's sort of a humble guy. Never, never a showboat boat. He played for your Raiders. Danny G. Jerry Rice career yards 22,895.

[Matt Castle]

And it's how he did it though. Like such an enigma, like a gazelle. Like how did he do that?

[Rich Davis]

As they say, he had, he had route running abilities and he had game speed.

[Matt Castle]

It was the first step.

[Rich Davis]

His 40 was never impressive.

[Matt Castle]

His first step just put him ahead of everybody else. But he always looks so wide open and that's what's so weird about it. And every NFL, NFL film, you just see him running.

[Rich Davis]

He, he, he, he would glide the way I would say that Carlos Beltran in his prime would glide through the outfield towards the ball.

[Matt Castle]

He would glide and everyone have think of a mental image of Jerry Rice, right? I don't see anyone else in the image like trying to block his passes, just him.

[Steve Covino]

You know how they always talk about in game speed and how you can't really, you know, you just, there's, there's no way to really measure that. Some guys, they run the 40, they're not that fast, but in a game it looks like Marcus Allen used to look that way. Long strides looks like they're hardly trying and they're way ahead of the pack.

[Rich Davis]

Not to name drop, but we've had Jerry Rice on the show a few times over the years and he talked about how when he would catch the ball in a slant and he saw a lane, he had that thing like, I can't let anyone catch me. They may be faster than me, but you're right, there's an in game speed that you, you really can't, you really can't account for. But speaking of Jerry RICE with that 22,895 yards, just to put in perspective, second place is Larry Fitzgerald who had a long, ridiculously amazing career, 17,000. Then after that to Randy Moss, they have like 15,000, which is again 7,8000 less than Jerry Rice. And when you talk about guys that are still active, like is there any active player? There's four guys that have 12,000, which is still 10,000 yards shy of Jerry Rice. Travis Kelsey, Devonte Adams, Mike Evans and DeAndre Hopkins.

[Matt Castle]

You know what, it goes back to what we said and they have an extra, they have more games to play. That's the other crazy part right now. You know, it goes back to durability. Once again though, players today, I don't know if high ankle sprain became a thing or was always a thing, but doesn't it seem like more injuries than ever before where. Yeah, it's never going to happen. It's not going to, it's not going to be beaten at this. At this pace, you got to throw Ricky Henderson. The late, great Ricky Henderson. People don't steal bases the way he steals bases. They don't do that anymore. Even with the bigger bag, you know, with the pizza boxes.

[Rich Davis]

Ellie De La Cruz looks like a speedster that we haven't seen in a couple decades and 1406. But, yeah, career, no way. But Ellie De La Cruz. I'm looking for a guy. Could there be a guy that even cracks 100? Because Ricky would have seasons where he had over 100 stolen bases. I just don't know if a guy could even crack a hundo.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, it doesn't seem like it. And back to the NFL really quick. How about a record? On the other side of things, A record, you don't want to have 336 interceptions. I'm talking about Brett Favre. Yes, sir.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. But, you know, it's almost like strikeouts in baseball. You have to be around long enough to be that bad, and you have.

[Steve Covino]

To be a gunslinger.

[Rich Davis]

A gunslinger.

[Steve Covino]

Are we gonna ever see a quarterback throw that many interceptions?

[Matt Castle]

You know, it's interesting, though, because the games change, and the answer to your question is probably not right, because if you threw that many interceptions, most likely you'd be out of the league. But he was Brett Favre. Games change, techniques change. I heard Kenny Lofton recently speaking about how when he was playing, that's when the slide step came into effect.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, so the leg kick went away.

[Matt Castle]

The leg kick sort of went away. The slide pitch became a thing. He goes, I would have been stealing 100 bases a season if that wasn't a thing. So, you know, as. As things change and techniques change, we may see some changes in these records. Look, we almost saw Eric Dickerson's record broken this year.

[Rich Davis]

You know, the most stolen bases in a season ever.

[Matt Castle]

It's got to be Ricky 260 something, maybe.

[Rich Davis]

Nah.

[Matt Castle]

100 something.

[Rich Davis]

130. 30.

[Matt Castle]

No, he had two something a season.

[Rich Davis]

No, they need 200 hits. Maybe. But still, bases, that would be insane. How would you have 200? That would mean every time he got a hit, he stole a base.

[Matt Castle]

Maybe those are my dreams.

[Steve Covino]

Those were your video games.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, no, I'm sorry. That was Kavino's little league stats. 130 by Ricky. Luke Brock had 118. Vince Coleman in 85 had 110.

[Matt Castle]

Tim Reigns, you know, they all had the.

[Rich Davis]

Ricky and Vince Coleman were the two guys that seem to dominate that one hundo. And, yeah, I'm trying to see. I'm scrolling down the list Shohei, with 59, is. Is the closest recently. So.

[Matt Castle]

So based on Nolan Ryan, the. I'm saying forgotten goat, we know how great he is, but he's never in that conversation. He's 78 today. He holds the record for strikeouts, over 5,000 strikeouts. What's the record again?

[Rich Davis]

5,007 14.

[Matt Castle]

5,007 14. Based on that, what other records do you think will last? Well, at least our lifetime. We're never going to see broken because the game changed or it's just unreal.

[Rich Davis]

I'm sorry. 5715. If you count the punch out of Robin Ventura as a punch out.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Rich Davis]

One more. Yeah, that's another K.O.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it's a K.O.

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