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The Daniel Cormier Show - Sean O’Malley on UFC White House card, Cory Sandhagen, Snoop Dogg KO, winning title
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This podcast is sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of UFC Power doesn't wait in the octagon or outside of it. You either make the move or you miss the moment. That's why you need a network that's just as powerful as you are. With Total Wireless, you get unlimited 5G data keeping you in the action from the walkouts to the knockouts. Now that's a total power move. Make your total power move today. Visit total wireless.com or stop by your neighborhood Total Wireless store. Additional terms apply. See total wireless.com for details. The volume, Daniel. All right, guys. Welcome to a brand new episode of the Daniel Cormier show, brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC the. They're in your Corner with unlimited 5G data that will not slow you down, guys. That is a total power move. Hey, today I am joined by a guy that took the mixed martial arts world by storm. Listen, when this kid came onto the scene, he had one of the biggest introductions that we have ever seen come off of the contender series, and everybody wanted to label him a certain way. But then when Sean o' Malley stepped into the Octagon, he showed through his skill, grit, determination, and pure athleticism, which we will get into that. He is going to be a world class fighter. Not only was he a world class fighter, he became a world champion and one of the greatest bantamweights we have seen in a really long time. Today I'm joined by a guy that started in Montana, but in Montana, he was one of the best athletes on the playground. He became a world champion, still one of the best bantamweights in the world. Sugar. Sean o'. Malley. Sean, thank you so much for joining me, my guy. I appreciate you giving me some time.
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I appreciate that intro. I got me fired up. Yeah, man, you're just on always.
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Well, Sean, it's only what you do. Yeah, I'm not making anything up. Right? These are all facts, right? Sean, as we get into this, I want to talk about the beginning. Right.
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Let's do it.
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Helena, Montana. You know, I went there once to do a wrestling seminar for one day. What was life like there? Because when you look at that play, it's small and it's flat. It's like really, really flat. Like, what did you. What did you make of? What was your childhood like?
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Yeah, it's 30,000 population. You know, there's a couple high schools. It was, you know, it was every. It was the only thing I knew. So I didn't really. I just kind of thought the world was. Everything was kind of like Helena, Mont. Like it just thought like it was the world was like that. So, you know, it felt like it was a normal upbringing. We had a pretty, you know, pretty badass house in the mountains, pretty close to a lake. Like, didn't fish, didn't hunt, didn't really do any, like, didn't have animals. But we had a, you know, had land and lived by the lake, was always on the lake in the summer. And you know, I just thought it was, it is beautiful. I just thought it was, you know, I thought everywhere snowed and like I was, you know, clearly not very smart, but I just thought it was normal and. And then I eventually moved to Arizona and realized like, holy, it's a completely different world.
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Yeah, what, what kind of kid were you growing up in that environment with that much space?
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I was active, very. It was football, basketball, soccer, baseball all year round. From when? Four years, three, four years old, whatever season, like it was cold out, we were playing basketball. When it was, you know, summer, we were playing football, baseball. So it was always non stop. All my memories are just playing sports.
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Who, who put that on you? Right? Because when you're a kid, you don't just choose a sport. It's either your dad, it's either your mom. Who was the one in the family that said, sean, it's going to be sports from the very start.
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I think it was a little bit of both. I had an older brother who was, you know, very similar, played, played all the sports. I had a younger brother, he played, you know, played all the sports. You know, I think growing up my parents played sports too. And I don't know if it was just a. We had a lot of energy as kids. Like, what else are we going to do? Yeah, I, you know, we hated or I hated school. So it was just like that was pretty much all I looked forward to doing was, you know, after school we got football practice, basketball practice, baseball practice. Looking back, I wish so much that someone in my family was like, hey, we should wrestle, maybe we should wrestle. Like I was one of those guys like haha, fucking fruit loops. I'm playing, I'm playing basketball while you fuckers are running stairs and I'm fucking shooting hoops. So I look in high school, I remember the kids wrestling and I was playing basketball and I was like, that sucks. They're wearing some singlets and I'm why
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does a singlet scare so many people off now?
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I love it. I'M showing off my junk. Like, look at it. Look what I'm packing, baby. I'm ready to wrestle.
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Sean, how much did playing all those sports shape you? Because right now, one of the biggest issues, especially in youth sports, is specializing the kids specialize. You did the jump shot after a fight one time, and I was like, well, what is the meaning of that now that I. When I start researching you and realizing, you know, you played all these sports, that's the meaning. But how important was that football, soccer, basketball, baseball, to becoming the type of athlete that you are today?
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I think I feel like it completely molded me to just being a good athlete because I was constantly doing different movements. Like, football different. The basketball and soccer and baseball, there's all these different athletic movements that I was doing nonstop since I was 3, 4 years old. And when I put. Finally put on the gloves when I was 16 years old and went to spar, I kind of was just. I didn't have a stance. I wasn't orthodox, didn't have my hands up, wasn't. I didn't even watch fighting. Like, I started training and, like, fell in love with the sport before I even watched anything. Like, I was just. My style came from just instinct. Like, I literally put gloves on, and we sparred. My hands are down partially because the gloves were 16 ounces. I'm like, these are heavy.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, I. I'm keeping on my hip, and if I got to put him up, I will. But I wasn't really getting hit. I wasn't training with good guys, so I developed this self confidence with, like. I was like, all right, like, I can do a lot of things that I, you know, are not, you know, recommended when you start. But I don't know. I think I just got very lucky with being athletic and then just my upbringing.
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Growing up with a brother, there's always a natural competition in the household. Was competition something that came natural to you, or was that something that you kind of grew into as you got older?
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Oh, the amount we got in a fight every single day. My older brother's four years older than me. My younger brother's four years younger than me. So we were constantly playing basketball outside, you know, all the sports outside. Every single day. It turned into a fight none of us wanted to lose. And it was. It was heated at all. Every single day. It was literally us three boys competing in everything we did.
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That's the best.
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It was good.
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It kind of gets annoying after a while. Like, dude, I swear to God, I'm like, Trying to press the elevator faster than everybody. I'm like, I want to be the one to press the elevator because I won. I won. It's like when you grow up around a whole bunch of kids and a whole bunch of kids that are like, athletes and you're competing, it's like, it fosters something in you at a young age that as you grow, man. And it's the thing that we need, especially in fighting. If you don't have that, you're screwed. Yeah.
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You're not in the right sport. If you're trying to. If you don't have that.
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No. If you don't have that thing that makes you annoying a little bit, you have no chance. So your friend introduced you to fighting. Which friend was that?
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Yeah, his name was Mitch Foley. I was in. I literally remember, I was in Utah with my family. We, like, in the summer, we'd go camping, and we were in our fifth wheel. My buddy called me flip phone. Flip that bitch. Open what up? He's like, you want to go check out this fight gym? I was like, I think I was 15 years old, maybe 16. I was right around that age. So you want to go check out this fight gym? I was like, yeah, that sounds cool. I was getting to a point where school sports, like, you had to get good grades. I hated school.
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You hated school?
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Hated it. Never wanted to go.
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Why. Why was. Why was it so hard?
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I just felt like it was so pointless. I'm like, I go there, try to talk to chicks, which was sweet. That was literally the only thing that I really even cared about was try to, you know, talk to chicks. And that was it. Other than that, I'm like, school is just so pointless. I looked forward to some one somebody would bring us from after school to kids, the kickboxing gym. Only thing I look forward to. But yeah, he. He's like, you want to go check out a fighting gym? And I was like, girls will think that's sweet. It's like another, like, athletic. I'm not really playing the school sports anymore. I wanted to do something and got hooked instantly.
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Did you fear, though? Because the one thing that adults tell us when we're growing up is how important school is, right? And you're like, I hate this. I don't want to do it anymore. But I ultimately know that it's something that I should be doing. Were you scared that it might affect you down the line, or did you have this belief that you were going to make it in something?
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I. There was this, like, crazy delusional self belief that I was going to be rich and famous. I didn't know what I was going to do. I wanted to be in the NBA. I wanted to be in the NFL. You know, high school rolls around, realized that's not realistic. You know, I check out fighting and it was just kind of like, this is it and this has to be it. There was no plan B. It was, where do I need to go? In my mind, I was, you know, 17 years old, whatever. I'm like, I need to go to California. I don't. I just. I need to go to California because I. I think I, like, seen Uriah. I need to go to California. And then, you know, I'm 18 years old, have an MMA fight. Tim Welch, I see him fighting on Fightmaster. I see him fighting on some TV show on, like, it was on like, MTV or something. I was like, damn. And it said from Great Falls, Montana. I was like, damn, damn. He's on tv. He's famous. Like, in my eyes, he was. He already. He was already famous. He was fighting on tv. Tim came down and commentated a fight when I was 18 years old. He was in Arizona. He's like, hey, if you want to come train at a real gym, like, come down for. For two weeks, let me know. Came down. Worst it was 10 days. Never flew, never been out of the state by myself. Flew to Mesa, Arizona. Tim picked me up in his Mazda and I was just like, I could not believe I was in Arizona going to train. I just couldn't believe it. There was guys like Yadzin Mesa and like these, these tough Mexicans at the MMA lab, and I came down and just got my ass kicked for 10 days straight. Flew back home, worked full time, saved up $2,000, packed my Nissan, drove to Arizona and just that. There was no plan B. I was, that was. I was going to be in the UFC and I was gonna. I was gonna make it happen.
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Sean, you know, one thing I was telling these kids that I coach, they say. And you just kind of mentioned it, you said you had this unbelievable belief. Delusional delusion. Right. Self belief. I believe that anyone that's great has to be a little bit crazy and delusional. Because when you tell yourself, think about this show, you're a world champion and the biggest fighting organization in the world, when you tell yourself that's something that you're going to do. There are billions of people in the world that anyone that says, I'm going to be the best at something in the world has to be A little crazy. Or at least to the people that don't think on that mindset, the people that don't live in that rarefied air, they go, well, Sean's crazy. He's from here. Like me. He can't be a world champion. You got to be a little crazy, right?
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Oh, yeah, dude, that was. Everybody told me. I remember, like, and when I was in Montana, like, hey, you're going to Arizona. Like, you're going to be a small fish in a big pond. Like, no one's going to really pay attention to you. Like, there wasn't. Outside my. You know, my mom and dad were, hey, yeah, I could do anything you want, honey, whatever. Outside of that, like, friends were like, bro, what, you're going to go to be in the fucking ufc.
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It's so discouraging.
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And. But you believe I did, not you. Yeah, but you would think it's like. And it probably does. There's probably kids that have that kind of same self belief, but then they're around people that tell them. That probably does affect them. But in my mind, I was like, watch, motherfuckers. I. Looking back, it's. I'm thankful for those people because it motivated me even more. Yeah, I wanted it bad. But then when I'm told by this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, like, what are you doing? It fueled me. I loved when people doubt me. I still do. I still love people doubt me. It's. It definitely drives me, and I think it drives a lot of, you know, people.
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When you walk into that gym for the first time, the first time you walked into a kickboxing gym, there's a feeling of, okay, this is where I belong. But then when you walk into that gym in Arizona, what are you thinking at that moment? Like, man, do you feel. Because I remember when I walked into AKA for the first time, I was like, yo, these dudes are crazy. Yeah. Like, what are you feeling that first moment you walk into that gym in the MMA lab?
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Well, the MMA lab's pretty popular. Like, wrestling. Like, they wrestle. I never wrestled a day in my life. Not one second. I didn't know. I remember on a Tuesday, like, oh, let's get into two and twos. No one want to be my partner. I had no idea what the two and twos were. I didn't know a single leg. I didn't know any. I literally knew. No. No wrestling. And it was. It was. It was intimidating. It was hard. It was, you know, Then Wednesday was kickboxing day, and I was like, let's Go. And it kind of got a little bit. A little bit of good get back. But I was still, you know, 18 years old. It was pretty small. But it's crazy. Like, I didn't really start training real MMA till I was like 18, 19 years old and I got in the UFC. I was 23.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, you did it
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for five years and then you're there already.
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And I was in the ufc. I was like, damn. I. It means it all worked out. But I was like, this is crazy. But, yeah, walking into the gym was Benson Henderson, you know, screaming at the Benson's. The. He just wrestled at Rapha. When he walked out, I got goosebumps because there's no one that competes like Benson. And he does it in the gym. Like. So me growing up 18, 19, 21, while I was there, you know, train at Tim's now at the Red Hawk Academy. But just watching Ben's intensity and passion for the love of competing in the sport, there's nothing like that. And I got to see that every single day. And him screaming at the end of practice, like. And, you know, I feel like that molded me a lot too.
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You know, when you're around that type of greatness, it really does encourage you to keep going. Those people that doubted you, when you go back now as Sean o', Malley, like, what is that like? Cause I found that some people that discourage me, it's almost like they have amnesia. They don't remember the things that they said. Like, how is that for you when you go back there?
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Yeah, I mean, the biggest one's my older brother. He was like. He. He remembers telling me, like, bro, what? Like, you're. That's crazy. It doesn't. You're wasting your time. And he even like, he's like, dude, I cannot believe I used to say that. Like, you prove me so wrong. And, you know, we have a cool relationship now. But, yeah, people, I mean, I don't really go back to Montana much. I'm going back in a couple weeks for. For some of our local guys or some of our guys have fights in Montana. So I go back every once in a while. But, you know, right now I feel like I'm just surrounded by, you know, very close net people, the gym, my family. So I don't really even, you know, talk to a lot of people that doubted me. Not because, you know, I, you know.
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Well, you kind of, like, because of who you are today, it's kind of hard to go back into that community because everybody kind of pulls at you and wants something.
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It's crazy when you're famous. People like. Like, we had a pick and stuff's cool, but it's like, people. So weird. People want to treat you different, which I get to.
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You're the same person.
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Same person did. I've done some sweet shit in my life, but I'm the same person. And it's still so weird. But it's cool. You can make people's days and, you know, you take a picture with them.
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When you're shaking, bro. Like, shaking.
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Hey, I was talking.
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I went back to Stillwater recently, and my cousin kept going. He was making fun of me. He's like, daniel, Daniel, please. I give you a cup of my blood. Like, they just, like, freaking out next to you. Like, I'll send you my blood. Please take it. It's the craziest thing, because you see people. It's like, if you sat with me for five minutes, I am the same person that you remembered when I was in college. But you do have that impact, and it has to matter. Was there a moment where you thought, hey, man, I'm actually getting pretty good at this? When you were fighting, when you were just kind of coming up last week,
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damn, I'm getting pretty good at this.
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That's it.
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No, I. I feel like I was. It was so. It was. It's weird because I was one of those guys that when the lights turned on and it's Saturday night and I'm in the octagon, I'm going to win or in the cage, I guess was an October before, during sparring, during, like, training, like, I would get. I would. I feel like I would lose a lot of. But now, come on Saturday night, and I just showed up, and I feel like I started getting very confident. Like, I know I could show up, but I started. I feel like I started getting good. It was probably after I even got signed to ufc, because I feel like I knew. Still knew I was so behind in the. In the. In the grappling world. And I'd say, you know, the. The. You know, I feel like the Eddie Wineland fights was, like, where I got real confidence. Like, that was my first big fight. The first time we colored my hair, it was, you know, Viral Knockout. I was like, damn, okay, I'm getting. I'm getting good at this. So, yeah, it was. I feel like it was later on, I guess, early on in my UFC career, I felt like I was, like, getting good.
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You wanted to go. You thought you were going to the NFL.
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You actually thought When I was sixth, seventh grade, I thought I was going to be in the NFL.
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When did you realize you were small?
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When I stopped growing. Yeah. Again, I'm around 30,000 people. I'm watching Champ Bailey and Clint Portis. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to be there. But, yeah, I just. I made. I didn't. Yeah, I was. That one was a crazy delusion. But I realized, you know, end of middle school, seventh, eighth grade, I'm like, all right, I gotta find something else.
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That's when that reality hit a little bit.
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Yeah.
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And then you started playing basketball.
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That. I played basketball, football. I would thought I wanted to be in something. I just wanted to compete my whole life. I'm like, that's what I wanted to do. And that was. I didn't watch kickball. I don't watch fighting. So I didn't even think that was.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. A path. Yeah, a path. So when you're getting into fighting, right, you have moved to Arizona. Do you remember the first time you had to really peel yourself up? Any knockouts in training, Anything like that, where you really got to get up off the ground? I'll tell you mine. I was sparring Cain Velasquez. Then when I first. I know, which sucks. I started sparring him, and I want it to be cute, right? I used to fight southpaw, bro. He kicks me in the face. It was the craziest thing, Sean. I turn away from the fight and I go, oh, my God. And I put my hand on the rope, like, almost like submitting to him, like, dude, please don't kill me.
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It was in a ring.
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We used to spar in a ring at AKA in the beginning.
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How old are, like, what year is this, bro?
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This is like, maybe I started fighting in 09. At the end of 09. Okay, so this is maybe in, like, 10, okay. Right. One year in.
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Yeah, bro.
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I never went southpaw again in my life. But I remember when I broke my nose, I flew back to Oklahoma because I was going back and forth at the time, and I'm laying in the house with this broken nose, and I thought to myself, I've got to be so committed to this thing if I want to be good, that I moved to California. Was there a moment where you suffered something in the training room where you go, I've got to make some changes, man, and do things the right way?
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Well, when I moved to Arizona, it was. It was like a daily. It was pretty much, you know, I went to practice twice a day. Every day like, that I was very, very, very, very consistent in the gym. And most of the training practices were me going home. Just pretty sad. Like, like. But in my mind, I'm like, these guys have been training longer than me. They're older than me, they're stronger than me. They're just better than me right now. I haven't put in the work. It was. I was able to always, always, like, reprogram my mind. Okay, this is, you know, these guys are just better than me right now because they put in more work. I know I'm super athletic. I know I can learn quick, and I know that I just need to stay consistent. And I don't know where I got that mindset from because it wasn't like that really with anything else, like school, like, other sports. Looking back, like, I didn't really feel like I gave it my all this. I'm like, again, it was. I had no plan B. I'm like, I need to make this work. So it was literally weekly, like, ev. For first three, four years of being at the. Being in Arizona, I was like, I just kept getting my ass kicked where, you know, I would question it. But again, no plan B. I'm like, just need to be in the gym. Need to be in the gym. Need to be in the gym. And I was. I didn't party. I didn't drink. I didn't. I sm. I got high. A funny story, actually, the first time I got high was bro. We trained twice a day and me and Tim are in an apartment, two bedroom apartment. It's 8:30pm and I'm just like, let's go do something. He's like, bro, you need to chill out. Take a puff. And I'm like, no, I don't do that. He's like, take a fucking puff. Yeah, I take a puff. And I'm like, all right, this is kind of nice. So that's why. That's how I started smoking, because I had too much energy and timber. You need to chill out. We are trained twice today and you want to go fucking, you know, do stuff. So I started taking puffs. And that actually, I would say, you know, helped me kind of train, recover, you know, chill out for a little bit. But I didn't drink, I didn't party. It was. It was. I moved to Arizona. I trained twice a day. I wanted to make this work. And looking back on it, it's like, I'm very grateful that I did. I had no other option. Like, Friday night. I wasn't Friday night, Saturday Night wasn't. It was just another night to try to sleep, recover and train again and become a.
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And become a champion.
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That was the only thing my mind was set on, was the only thing I cared about.
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Yep.
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Your job before, were you working in a home with like, adults that had.
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Yeah. Mental. There was a. It was a group home. So it was a. It was like. What was it called? I forget, but it was like eight different group homes and each group home was like a crazy mansion. And they, it was. There was eight bedrooms, eight clients. And I would work from 6 to 9am I'd get there at 6, help like wake up, help them basically just do their chores, help them make lunch or breakfast, pack their lunch. I would drive the short bus, listen, turn up the radio. We're jamming on the way to work. I drop them off, I get back. I'm off from nine to three. I get back at three, I go pick them up. Cruising the short bus. It was, it was pretty sweet. I enjoyed it. It was really. It was a fun job. I really, really, I. I actually loved it.
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Were you able to make like. Were you able to make connections with the people?
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Yeah, oh, yeah, there was some, the disabilities were like. There were some where you could kind of like a full blown conversation. And then there was this one girl, and this is 2000, like 12, 13. But there's this one girl that didn't like, her tongue was so big. She had other things going on. But she couldn't talk, so she. Sign language. So I learned the whole Alphabet.
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Come on.
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I didn't learn. I learned the whole Alphabet. She would just spell stuff and, like, write it out and just like, that's how we communicated. And she was fine. She's like, mm, yeah, she was. But she would always request that I gave her a shower. So I'm sitting there fucking spraying her.
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You were showering?
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She was like, every 45, like, older. And I was like, all right, lift your fucking boob. It was. It was crazy.
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And this was all to try to go and chase that dream?
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Yeah. I mean, I was like, I need to make money. Like, I needed. My goal was, I'm gonna save up 2,000. I paid off my car. I had a 2006 Nissan Altima. It was $11,000 when I bought it. And I saved. I was like, I'm going to pay my car off and I'm going to save up $2,000. And then I was very, very lucky and grateful. I had local sponsors. Like, sometimes they'd write me a sixteen hundred dollar check. And I was like, holy shit. Like. And I was. I didn't spend money on nothing. I saved all my money to pay for rent, you know, the WI Fi, groceries. Like, I was very, very disciplined with my money. I wasn't buying anything I didn't need. And, yeah, save that money up. Drove there.
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Did working there change your perspective? Like, when I grew up, my family, they did Brickland. So one summer. That's hard, dude. It's hard. And it's so hot down in Louisiana, right? Humid hot, bugs everywhere. You start off as a laborer when you're like 13, 14 years old, it's almost like they're trying to, like, almost like form you into, like, knowing this is your future. And I said to myself, no chance, bro. I gotta be honest. Like, the way I, you know, my shit was kind of fucked up, bro. You know what? I. You know what I did on, like. I think I went to, like, the prison on, like, a field trip.
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B
Jesus.
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A
I was in, like, elementary school. This is crazy, bro. It's like, yo, don't do this because you're gonna end up here. But it was like they were trying to, like, form me to be better. And it impacted me. It changed the way I viewed life. Working in that home, watching these people with the disabilities. Did it make you realize, man, life can be really messed up?
- [24:52]
B
Yeah, I definitely, like, I, I enjoyed, like, I, I sought out that job because I enjoyed working with people with mental disorders. I just thought it was very fun. I've like, most of the time they're just happy in good moods and they're just different perspective on lives and I enjoyed being around that. So I, I went after, I looked for a job that did that, did that, and I don't know, I feel like I, I, I really enjoyed it. But yeah, it gave me a good, you know, a different perspective on life and made me so grateful for being, you know, healthy and being able to do whatever, like be able to train and be able to do sports.
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A
Yeah. You know, you go to Arizona and I don't know that it feels like a gamble to you. You said you had no plan B, but this is a massive gamble.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You get the call for the Contender series. Dude, what does that call like for you when you're living the life that you're living at that point?
- [25:44]
B
Yeah. So right before that, I fought on lfa and it was my first time because, like, most of my fights were in Montana. I had 14amateur MMA fights, which was a lot. Like, I remember coming to the, coming to Arizona, and there was guys who were like 28 years old, like 2 0amateur, like trying, like, trying to get fights. And I'm like 18 with 12 fights. Like, I had a lot of experience fighting Montana, so I turned pro. I fight in Montana. Like, all my fights were Montana. And then I have this fight in Arizona. And LFA is like the big promotion for me. Yeah, outside of Montana is different. And I was so excited. Like, this is the big league. Like, I'm fighting on a different event. It just felt so much different. And I fought this kid named David Nuzo. I call him David Snuzzo because I slept him. But I had this viral knockout. It was crazy. I hit him with this. I hit him with a head kick and a wheel kick. And I was literally working on that with Tim on the mitts. Like, yo, this would be sick if I threw this head kick and like, you know, kind of forced him to go that way with the. And then I was working on like a week before the fight and I, the opportunity was there. I hit it sleep. And I was like, this is crazy. And I knew Sean Shelby was supposed to be at that fight, wasn't there, but I knew Contender series was this thing being talked about, you know, this Dana White's Tuesday night fights. Like, this is going to be a new thing. I was like 6 and 0 or 5 and 0 or whatever. I'm like, I go out there, get a knockout, I'm for sure Getting on there. Yeah. And I. Yeah. They're like, hey, you want to fight ALFRED Kashakian?
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A
Yeah.
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B
June 6th or whatever the fucking date was. I was like, hell, yeah. Look him up. Just shredded Russian dude. Eight and three with.
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A
Imagine he's gonna try to wrestle you.
- [27:14]
B
Eight and three with eight TKOs. All of his TKOs were ground and pound, so I don't know. Yeah, I was like, all right, well, here we go. Worst camp of my life there was. I got Rob Emerson kneed me in the jaw. Weeks, weeks out. Bad concussion at home, puking, lights off during the day. Just, like, horrible, bro. I weighed in at 136. I walked in the cage at 139.
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A
Really?
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B
Yeah. I mean, I was. I was super skinny at that point anyway, but I was like, not healthy. My brain. I wasn't. It was not in a good spot.
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A
But you had to take the fight.
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B
I didn't. I mean, I didn't have to, but in my mind, I did. I'm like, I'm gonna pass the opportunity up. That self belief, that delusional self belief. I said, it don't. And I'm coming off six knockouts in a row or something. Like, I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna knock this guy out, whatever. And. And, yeah, in the back, just confident. Like, I'm gonna go out there and do what I do. And I was tired as a motherfucker. Looking back on that fight, I'm like, if it got out of the first round, I would fucking, I might add, a heart attack.
- [28:10]
A
Really?
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B
I was just so out. I mean, it was. It was. Yeah, it was a big moment. Yeah. Snoop Dogg was commentating.
- [28:18]
A
He was going crazy.
- [28:19]
B
And it was. This was like, one of the first times I have this, like, I realized how important the manifestation is, or call it whatever you want. I remember having this thought. I'm like, I'm gonna go out there, have a performance where I'm gonna make Snoop Dogg want to meet me. Like, that was. I literally remember telling people that, thinking that. And I listen to the fight back. I go at home, I watch it. I watch it wherever I watch it. Snoop Dogg after the fight, I want to meet that kid, man. Screaming, I want to meet that kid. I remember going, like, going into the fight, like, I want to have a performance where Snoop Dogg wants to meet me. And I was like, holy shit. I remember thinking that, like, self belief and just believing that and telling myself that. And I felt like I manifested that. And I feel like that played a big role in my career.
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A
And could you feel life change right away after that? Like, maybe not financially, but recogn recognition knowing that you and Snooper, like, now you're smoking with Snoop Dogg. Life is going crazy for you right away. Could you feel it right in the moment?
- [29:11]
B
Yeah, I was a little nervous because, again, I'm only 23 years old. I'm like, God, I'm in the UFC. And I knew I still had so much to work on, but I was like, I just. Not. I just. The high you get from knock someone out, it's great. It's the best that I'm Put the. On top of Dana White signing me to the ufc. On top of that, I'm smoking with Snoop Dogg all within, like, the same hour. I knocked this. You know, I get signed to UFC. I'm smoking Snoop. I'm 23. I'm like, what? I feel like I was in a movie. I cannot believe what's happening right now. It's just. It was so. It didn't feel real. I was like, what the. But, yeah, financially, you know, I think you make five and five contender series. $10,000. I had a little bit money saved up, like, a couple thousand bucks. I'm like, I'm going to buy a house. That sounds smart. And so, yeah, boom. Bought a house. And with ten grand down payment, bro,
- [29:55]
A
where do you live?
- [29:56]
B
It was 2017. I bought a house for $220,000, and it was. I recently sold it for, like, 380 or something.
- [30:05]
A
Really?
- [30:06]
B
It was my. It was. Yeah, it was. It wasn't a nice house by any
- [30:08]
A
means, but still, it's a house.
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B
Yeah.
- [30:10]
A
You can't buy a house in California for $10,000, dude. Yeah, I can go live in somebody's front yard with a $10,000 down payment. It don't work over there, but in those moments, right, it's Sean o'. Malley, right? O'. Malley.
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B
O'.
- [30:25]
A
Malley. It's not the Sugar show, though. It's not the Sugar Show. When did that come about? Like, you said, that fight where you got that knockout, first time you dyed your hair, you become Sean o', Malley. But it's welcome to the Sugar Show. It's a difference. When did that come about?
- [30:40]
B
So the welcome to the Sugar Show, I remember thinking on the Contender series, I'm like, I got to have something witty to say. After I knocked that kid, I got on the ring, I got on the top of the cage right there, and I said, welcome to the Sugar show, right to Dana White right there. So right after So I think I fought in June, and then in December, I fight Terry on Ware, which. That was a crazy fight. That was a three round back and forth. First round, I won second round, he won, third round, I. I make it happen. I get it. I dig deep because I was gassed the out.
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A
Was that the one with the ankle?
- [31:08]
B
No, that was the very next fight. So carry on. Where I win in December. Now we're fast forward to March. I'm fighting Andre Sukumtal, AKA Andre soccer mom. He was so mad, I called him soccer mom. Disrespect my family, disrespect my last name. And he was just so mad. But, yeah, that was where I snapped my foot. Three minutes left in the fight. Snap my foot. I'm hopping on one foot. Still piecing him up.
- [31:29]
A
Yeah.
- [31:30]
B
And he took me down. Thank God. And then the fight ended on the ground. My dumb ass actually got up once and they took me back down. And that was the fight where I snapped my foot. And that sucked. That sucked.
- [31:40]
A
But when did you build the. The guy, the character?
- [31:44]
B
Yeah. So I break my foot, get. Do that, go through that whole suspension thing. Might be a good segue there, but we do the whole suspension thing. And then I come back, I fight Jose Quinones, 2020, the very last arena show before COVID 2020. Knock, knock out, Jose Quinones, come back, and a few months later, I fight Eddie Wineland. And I'm like, I'm a fucking color my hair. I want to be a character. I want. I want to. I want to. If I was sitting on the couch, who do I want to watch? Like what? I want to see characters. I want to see people that make you want to watch them. Because there's so many people. There's fights all the time. There's so many people you don't really care about. I'm like, I want to be someone someone cares about. It already knocked people out. I want to stand out. I dye my hair, have this fro. And I come to fight week, and it was crazy. I had. I had UFC title fight, media. Like, I had non stop media, non stop. And I was like, damn. And then I go out there and knock out Eddie Wineland at the apex, and you literally hear him snore. I think you even commentated. Yeah, man. You could hear him snore.
- [32:44]
A
It was snoring. It was crazy.
- [32:45]
B
That was. I. I hit him with.
- [32:46]
A
And you hit him with a punch. A lot of times you hear that when people get kicked. Yeah, hit him with a punch. And that happened. That was crazy to me.
- [32:53]
B
I mean, him smacking his head off the. Off the canvas probably didn't help much, but yeah, that was, that was crazy. That, that I really felt like. But then my very next fight, I fight Cheeto Vera.
- [33:01]
A
Yep, yep, yep.
- [33:02]
B
And that, then that didn't. That one didn't go so well. Looking back on how my entire career has played out, it was such a blessing in disguise.
- [33:09]
A
The Cheeto fight.
- [33:10]
B
Yeah, for sure. Again, I'm 20 now. I'm. I'm older now, but I'm still. I feel like, still got a lot of room to grow. I go out there and beat Cheeto that first fight. It was a co. Main event on you. And yeah, as a co. Main event, I'm like, where would I have gone from after beating Cheeto? Like, I would have really got up into the top, like.
- [33:27]
A
Yep.
- [33:28]
B
And I don't know. I don't think I was ready for that. I go out there, I lose to Cheeto supposedly, and then I come back, fight Thomas Almeida. If that Cheeto one fight didn't happen, I don't get that Thomas Almeida knockout. So I feel like it just. Everything played out how it was supposed to. And yeah, it's fun sitting here talking, just like going back into my mind and like seeing how my career's played out. And it's just so that Cheeto one fight got so much hate. I said, I'm mentally undefeated. I didn't lose that fight. He didn't beat me because he was better than me. Fluke, accident, whatever. Like, yeah, whatever. But I got a lot of attention for saying I'm mentally undefeated. A lot of hate, a lot of love, like a lot of sugar fans, like Die Hards, like, yeah, that. Mentally undefeated. But a lot of people are like, bro, you're so like, own it. You lost. I was like, I didn't. How.
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A
How was that? How was dealing with that type of backlash? Because again, you have the championship media, right? Yeah, you have the, you have the hair, you have the looks, the eyes are on. You're knocking people out. You lose this fight, you start to see the other side of fame. The other side of fame can be very, very ugly. And the bigger the platform, the more you feel it. Like, how was dealing with that as a young guy? Right? Yeah, that is just really seeing that for the first time again.
- [34:38]
B
Now, now I'm. Now I'm getting doubted. Now I'm like, oh, all you gotta do is kick his legs. Like now I'm here in the. Oh, you just Gotta kick his leg. Now I'm fighting Thomas Almeida. Great kickboxer. Like, he wasn't. He had lost some fights, but he was still at one point, like, 21, and. Oh, like, he was.
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A
Yeah, he was, man.
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B
And it's my return fight. Good kickboxer. You know, go out there and I was excited. I was fueled up from all the. All the hate. So I took that hate. It's funny how people say hate because they want you to feel, like, a negative emotion.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But then also, all those haters were really just fueling me. Like, I was like, yes. All you gotta do is kick my. Like, you guys, you watch this. Watch this. Yeah. And I go out there and put on a beautiful performance and knock him out twice and have a crazy walk, knockoff knockout. And it just adds to the highlight reel. So, you know, it was. It definitely fueled me. Don't. Like, I liked it.
- [35:30]
A
Could you feel that championship moment starting to come? Could you feel it building? Because now. Now you're not just. People wanted to label you a hype job. They really did want you to be. This guy's just hype.
- [35:42]
B
Yeah.
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A
And then you kept proving him wrong over and over and over. Could you feel, though, hey, man, I'm about to get an opportunity to fight for this belt. Like, when did you realize, how about to get a chance to fight for this title?
- [35:52]
B
Yeah. So right after Thomas was. I think I was supposed to fight. I was supposed to fight Luis Smolka. He pulled out 10 days before. 12 days for. That's when the. Chris Mentino stepped up.
- [36:01]
A
Oh, my God, you beat him so bad.
- [36:03]
B
Yeah, my hands hurt for, like, two months from him. He. So that fight, you know, grew my popularity because it was just such a. It was such a fun fight, but it was like, I didn't. I went be a guy who just got signed. It didn't really move me up. But, yeah, at the time, I didn't really care. And I always was like, dude, I'm not. But. But wait, I was. I didn't care that I was fighting these guys. I'm not getting paid that much. You're making 30 and 34.
- [36:26]
A
You would say that publicly, though.
- [36:27]
B
I'm like, I don't want to fight these guys for $40,000. They're like, what about. What about out? Like, the Alja wasn't the champ at the time. What about these other guys? I'm like, I would rather fight Chris Moutinho. Yeah. I don't really care to fight anybody else. Like, I would rather fight Holly On Paiva next. That was my next fight. And, like, I. I was not looking to get pushed forward. I. I didn't paid the way. I didn't necessarily think I was ready. Like, if they would have offered it to me, I would have been like, I don't know what I would have said. But I wasn't pushing for those bigger fights because I'm like, I'm not making that much money right now. And the way the UFC works is you got to go out there and win a lot of fights in a row before you start making real money. That's just what it is.
- [37:06]
A
Yeah.
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B
Like, you're not gonna win four fights in a row and start making six figures. You gotta. You gotta get up to that. And I was like, I want to build a. I want to build the resume. I want to build, you know, knockouts. Like, I will fight the worst guy possible. Give me the worst guy on the roster, and I want to fight that guy.
- [37:20]
A
Yeah, you get that title fight against Al Jermaine Sterling. But now you're. Now you're a star.
- [37:25]
B
Yeah.
- [37:26]
A
I mean, your music hits that arena in Boston, bro. People went crazy, bro. It was the loudest.
- [37:32]
B
It was insane.
- [37:33]
A
It was insane the way that they responded to you. But with that comes pressure, the pressure of becoming the champion. How did you handle the pressure of that moment as a guy that's. In his first UFC championship fight?
- [37:47]
B
Yeah, that was an interesting one. But before that, I fought. So I fought Peter and Abu Dhabi. It was. I was ranked number 11, he was ranked number one. Literally two through ten. Had they were fighting each other. There was nobody else booked. I reached out to ufc. It was right after I supposedly poked Pedro Munoz in the eye. I was like, I. I need a fight like this. I don't like this feeling. I need to get a fight. And they said, peter Yan's the only one without a fight. I said, perfect. Like, I'm ready. Let's do it. They're like, all right. They call Peter. They. Peter, you know, supposedly accepts the fight. I feel like they said, yo, you're fighting Sean. And he's like, fuck, all right, whatever. So we're in Abu Dhabi October 22, 2022, and that was a big moment for me. I knew, like, I was like, damn, this is. This is it. I'm fighting Peter Yan, who, in my opinion, still is one of the best pound for pound fighters of all time. He's just super skilled, very good. And I think he underestimated. Underestimated me a little bit. I think you Know, that was a close fight. I won the fight, and, yeah, it was. It was great. Fast forward to the Aljo fight. He's the greatest bantamweight of all time at the time still, you know, depending on how you look at the division, whatever. He's up there. He's one of the. I think Peter and Aljo, obviously, murab, those three, probably the three greatest bantamweights
- [39:03]
A
of all time over Dominick Cruz. And so who don't those guys?
- [39:08]
B
I mean, in my opinion. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But anyway, Aljo, I was, you know, had a bad rib injury going to that fight. You know, we. We didn't grapple at all. It was not an ideal. It was not ideal in Boston. I'm. I'm not pulling out of the fight. I was like, if this grabs a hold of me, he's freakishly strong. He's the backpack. I'm like, this could end bad. Yeah. This is my first title fight, and it's against the absolute worst stylistic matchup for me. Like, it's just this. I'm like, I have to go out there and knock this. I have to have no choice. I have to land this right hand on his chin, and I'm gonna make and wait and make him make a mistake. He's gonna make the mixtape.
- [39:52]
A
And you hit him with that right hand and put him out. That place went crazy.
- [39:55]
B
Boston was. There was literally six aljo. They did a stats. They did like. There was six Aljo fans in there, bro.
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A
You got. You're making that up.
- [40:02]
B
No, no, they did it.
- [40:02]
A
You're such a he.
- [40:04]
B
You're producing six ufc. That place was the most electric. I fought. I fought Cheeto in Miami, and it was still electric. But the Boston was crazy.
- [40:15]
A
You can.
- [40:15]
B
There was. You could hear the chance. You even watch it back. The fight. You Al Joe, it's crazy. And I hit him with that right hand. I was at the PI today, and they have it playing on one of the screens, and I was like, that right hand was so fast. It just was perfect.
- [40:32]
A
It really gave me McGregor vibes. When he knocked out Aldo, I said it. I was like, yo, it just reminds me. And I could feel your star just rise before I let you go, Sean. Businessman.
- [40:44]
B
Yes, sir.
- [40:45]
A
You're a businessman, bro. Obviously, you start businesses. They do very well. You had your marijuana stuff.
- [40:52]
B
Yeah, a little bit.
- [40:53]
A
Now, didn't you have, like, a company or something?
- [40:55]
B
So. So this is. I'll say this. I've been sponsored by. By businesses. I've had, you know, equity Deals to where I'm like small, small, small owners and you know, decent brands. This is different. Doing well is something that I own 50% of and yeah, I would love for you to try it. It's very, it's, it's, this is a raspberry. Okay. It's a performance electrolyte drink mix. It is, you know, made with organic ingredients when possible. It's third party tested. Dc. That's delicious.
- [41:28]
A
It's very good.
- [41:30]
B
High sodium for sweat, especially for after
- [41:33]
A
like a lot of calories.
- [41:35]
B
Burning, sweating, sauna. I mean I drink two a day. I, I drink one in the morning. First thing I do when I hydrate. I drink that before my coffee. But then after a sauna. Oh my God. I could chug one of these.
- [41:45]
A
It's, it's actually really good. I like it, I like it a lot actually.
- [41:49]
B
But yeah, no, it's, it's, it's very fun. It's very. Starting a business. This has been a year in the making. We're finally, you know, on the market now on the website and we're, we're finally there. But it's been a year. You know, you come up with an idea. I've been, I wanted to create something. I wanted to make my own brand eventually want this to be bigger. It's called doing well. It's not called, you know, sugar electric. It's not. I don't want it to be associated with me eventually. I want it to be outgrow my name because it's such a quality product, product, product. And yeah, it's, it's really good.
- [42:18]
A
And fatherhood. Oh, oh my goodness. How's fatherhood changed? Sugar. Sean o'. Malley.
- [42:23]
B
Oh, man. I have a nine month old at home and a five year old daughter. I have a boy and a girl and it is literally, I knew I wanted, I remember I broke up with a girl in middle school. She said she don't want kids.
- [42:32]
A
I'm like, nah, you knew you wanted a family.
- [42:34]
B
I knew I wanted kids. I, I, for whatever reason, I knew I wanted to be a dad at a young age. Thank God I didn't get no girls pregnant in high school because I was reckless. I was reckless. But God is looking out. He says, you know what? It's not your time. You're not gonna do that. Yeah. So. But yeah, having kids was a perfect timing. 20002020 is when I had Elena, my, my first. And it was right, it was 2002. It was right when I first made my hundred thousand. I made my, it was like, the first time I made six figures, I was starting to actually become more. A little bit more famous. And then we have Elena, who was. Wasn't on purpose, but holy. It felt like my whole life feels like there's a higher power. Not super religious in any way, enemies. But I feel like that someone's looking out for me because the way my life's played out, my career has played out. Just like having Elena at that moment, because I was starting to make some money, and I'm 23, 24, and I was just like, you know, at that age, you start making money. I thought I was rich as I made a hundred thousand dollars in my bank. I'm like, yeah, I could buy anything. So. And, like. And I hadn't drank TILL I was 21, so, like, I just. I never really got a party. But then you dream, oh, I can see how people go down the wrong path. It's fun.
- [43:43]
A
Especially whenever you're. You're. You're getting all the love you're getting.
- [43:46]
B
Yeah.
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A
Because now you have access to everything.
- [43:48]
B
It's bad.
- [43:49]
A
You can get anywhere, and you don't pay for nothing.
- [43:52]
B
Nah. Just walk into a club, got a table, chicks, and it's. You know, so, like, I was experiencing that, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, now my girl's pregnant, who I've been with for, you know, 11 years now. And, you know, so having. Having the family completely settled me down, it was perfect timing. I love nothing more than being a dad. I love that I don't have to work nine to five. I get a. You know, I can bring the kids to the gym. My daughter does jiu jitsu Monday through Friday. She's competing soon. And it's. It was a blessing in disguise. I knew I wanted kids eventually. I didn't know if I was ready at the time, but it was great.
- [44:27]
A
When they watch your career one day, what do you want your kids to take from that? Watching their dad. Sugar. Sean o'.
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B
Malley. Yeah, Elena. She was at my fight for the first time. She went to the actual fight against Song, and I was like, damn, this is a risky fight to bring my daughter to his songs. Explosive. And he knocks out. I'm like. But I. You know, I was confident. Like, I'm gonna go in there, fight my fight, do what I do, and I'm gonna get my hand raised. But I want them to, you know, I don't know. I don't really. I haven't really thought about, like, what do I want them? I want. I'm I'm giving it my all while I'm. While I can. I'm 31. I wanna. Until. Until I'm like, okay, I can't get into the shape I need to get into a fight. That's what we'll call it quits, but I'm gonna. Until. I'm just gonna fight until. Until that.
- [45:14]
A
A couple quick ones for you before I let you go. Obviously, with your name recognition, people are constantly calling for you. Corey Sandhagen is the guy now wants to fight at the White House. But you don't seem very interested in this. How do you handle that? People are always kind of wanting to attach their name to the show because it's not just the name Sean o', Malley. It's attaching himself to the brand. Right. Because if they can get a victory, it immediately elevates them.
- [45:41]
B
There's so many different ways I could go with my answer, but I know he always says I'm ducking him.
- [45:47]
A
He made a whole thing the other day.
- [45:49]
B
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's been fights where I've asked for Corey. I asked UFC for Corey, and it didn't. Didn't work out. But at the end of the day, it's like the UFC calls me. I say. They. They say, hey, you want to fight? I say, yes. I. I've never turned Corey down once ever in my life. They've never offered me Corey, and I said, no, I'm not scared of Corey. I mean, he's. I mean, we fought the same guys. He's fought Aljo. Yeah, I fought Aljo. He's fought Peter. I fought Peter. I'm pretty sure, yeah, they both beat him. I beat. Beat both them. Pretty sure, right?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah, they did. Yeah.
- [46:20]
A
Potential fight with Po Young. I mean, would you be willing to wait for that?
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B
Man, I'm. I. I want to be on the White House card. If they. If they give. Hey, Sugar, you want to be on the White House card? Yes, I want to be on the White House card. I don't think it's going to be Peter, you're bucking back surgery or whatever.
- [46:34]
A
Could you imagine being on the White House card? That'd be the craziest thing, the way
- [46:39]
B
they're making it sound. It's like, how could I not? Like, I'm healthy. I'm.
- [46:43]
A
Americans on there.
- [46:44]
B
We need Americans. We need stars. It's massive. And, you know, I think they miss out on opportunity. Not putting the Sugar show on there. I'm. I'm so excited. Supposedly, Dana's announcing the fight.
- [46:53]
A
Tomorrow.
- [46:54]
B
And I, like, I'm so curious because, you know, the UFCs, they always, someone knows something. Someone always knows something. Who's going to be the main event? Who's gonna be this? I don't, I truly don't think anybody knows anything. Do you know?
- [47:06]
A
I know some things. I might know a few things.
- [47:10]
B
You kept it, kept it quiet because I've heard.
- [47:12]
A
Well, it's literally, you feel like you will die if you tell somebody. You can't tell anybody anything. Hey, 135, you're making the weight pretty comfortably. But there was a time where you talked about going up to 145. Like, is that in the future?
- [47:25]
B
I know, man. I feel like I probably talked about it when I was having, like, in the middle of a weight cook. Those suck people. You'll be like, so you'll get to fight week. How much weight you got? Oh, £10. And someone's like, oh, that's not bad. I'm like, shut the.
- [47:35]
A
It's the worst.
- [47:36]
B
Look at me, I gotta lose 10 pounds. What do you mean it's not bad? It's the, it. Cutting weight sucks. And, you know, outside of camp, like, now I'm like, all right, I could do it again. But then you get down to the last, like, fight week, and you're like, how the do I do this? I, I, I love the idea of fighting at the weight, your natural weight. I walk around 155. I could make. I maybe be 156. Maybe 156.
- [47:57]
A
You're gonna fight a guy that's 190,
- [48:00]
B
but if I do that. All right, Justin, you ready, brother? Like, I'm not trying to get my head knocked off, but if it was same day weigh ins, like, you know, three hours before, you'll still get people trying to cut, still try to do a thing, but, but then also part of me is like, I feel like I work with Dan Garner, nutritionist, absolute nerd, loves the, loves the science of nutrition. And, and so I'm like, I do feel like I have an advantage with the weight cut and the rehydration because I feel like I do it as scientifically, as perfect as possible. I feel like I have an advantage over songs. Chugging a coke for rehydration.
- [48:34]
A
Really?
- [48:34]
B
Like, what are you doing? Like, what you put in your body those 20, those 36 hours before the fight is what fuels you to fight. I'm not put, I'm, I'm doing it as clean as possible. And then eating pancakes and, like, I'm like, hey, I feel like I'm gonna take that as an advantage, and I'm gonna go in there more, you know, properly hydrated than these guys. So I'll take that on the way out.
- [48:55]
A
Sean, what do you want people to remember about you when you're done?
- [48:59]
B
You know, I, I, I exciting. I try to bring a level of focus to fighting and just, I would say the flow, the. The flow I can get into is something that I work on, and I feel like in, I, I have that just naturally, but I think you can get better at that. I feel like I have gotten better at that, and I just say I really do give my 100 of this sport. Outside of fight camp, I'm still eating, clean, training, trying to be as smart as possible, and, you know, I'm giving my entire soul to this sport. And I think, you know, I'm 31. I've had six, 15, 16 fights in UFC. I'd like to, you know, put, you know, be in the 20s eventually. And, yeah, I mean, I don't know, really just exciting. Fun, fast.
- [49:49]
A
Yeah.
- [49:50]
B
Accurate. Too sharp. Too fast, too, folks. That's always my motto going into these fights. And, you know, that's. I guess that would be it. Sean, too sharp, too fast, too focused.
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A
You've done good, my guy.
- [50:01]
B
Thanks, sir.
- [50:01]
A
Hey, where. Where can we find this? Where can we find everything? Sugar show. Before I let you go, every.
- [50:06]
B
I mean, doing well, Dot health is. We got raspberry, we got coconut lime. We're working on a mango, and it's third party tested. We're gonna move into some supplements and stuff. It's great, guys.
- [50:16]
A
It's very, very good. Sean, thank you for joining us. Guys. Follow Sugar, Sean o' Malley and everything he does. Let's hope that when we. When this releases, Sean has been announced to fight on the White House card. Guy does deserve that opportunity. Until next time, guys, thank you for watching another episode of the Daniel Cormier Show. For Sean o', Malley, I'm dc. We'll catch you in the next one.
- [50:37]
B
Peace. Peace.
- [50:43]
A
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