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The Draymond Green Show w/ Baron Davis: Draymond Green on Back-to-Back Warriors losses, Interview w/ Brooklyn Nets Cam Thomas & Baron Davis’ Top 5 Guards
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Draymond Green
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Baron Davis
You may not realize it, but every minute of every day you're enjoying your First Amendment freedoms. You can wear what you want, give out your opinion for free, even if it's unpopular. Listen to your playlist.
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Draymond Green
You can put a sign out on.
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Baron Davis
Your front lawn that says vote for Bigfoot.
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Cam Thomas
Someone you can believe in.
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Baron Davis
Pray to the God of your choice.
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Draymond Green
Or don't you have the right to.
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Baron Davis
Hang with a posse that thinks like you do. Tell the government what you think about its policies.
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Draymond Green
They're the freedoms that let you be you. And they're all broke to you by the First Amendment.
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Honey German
Learn more at freedomforum.org welcome to Gracias. Come Again, a podcast by Honey German where we get real and dive straight into todolo aqual y viral. We're talking musica, los premios, El chisme, and all things trending in my cultura. I'm bringing you all the latest happening in our entertainment world and some fun and impactful interviews with your favorite Latin artists, comedians, actors and influencers. Each week we get deep and raw life stories, combos on the issues that matter to us. And it's all packed with gems. Bun Straight up comedia. And that's a song that only Nuestra Gente can sprinkle. Listen to Gracias. Come again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Cam Thomas
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Draymond Green
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Cam Thomas
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Draymond Green
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Cam Thomas
Hey, you've been doing all that talking.
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Draymond Green
It's time to get rewarded for it.
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Cam Thomas
Submit your podcast today@iheart.com podcast awards. That's iheart.com podcast awards.
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Baron Davis
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Cam Thomas
What's up my dog? You the boss Dre.
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Baron Davis
Appreciate you my dog. Before we get into this episode, make sure you subscribe to the Draymond Green show with Baron Davis so you don't miss any of these episodes.
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Cam Thomas
That's right. Follow the show on Twitter Draymond show so you don't miss out on none of the announcements is going down and I know Dub Nation was hyped for the weekend to kick this off when my boy Kendrick Lamar dropped his album gnx. Now we know what that means where you find a Kendrick album, right when there's a drop. There's also a Warriors championship. So I got to start the show by saying have you listened to the album? How you feel now that Kendrick got an album out? Talk to me.
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Baron Davis
I definitely listened to the album. I think for number one. History always repeats itself. So every time Kendrick had dropped the album and dubs the won championship, I need to keep riding that wave. So come on, you know what I'm saying. But and listening to the album, it is like it's lyrics, lyrics, lyricist at your finest, like straight up spitting. What I appreciate about the album most is and obviously it's a great album. It's a no skip. What I appreciate most is through all of the rap, beef, Drake, Kendrick, all that, there's clearly other stuff going up with it. But through all of that, if you didn't come away from that with eyes on what Kendrick was doing in Compton, with eyes on what Kendrick was doing around la, if you came away from it with anything more than that, you missed the boat, you missed the message, you missed everything that went on. You missed so much. And so what I love most about the album is. And it's an incredible album, It's Kendrick at his finest. You know, like, as a basketball player, you know when you on one of them runs and it just like feel like nobody can stop you, that's what the album gave to me. Now, in saying all of that, what I love most about the album is so la. It's so la. He giving back to artists of la. You got artists charting that ain't never charted before in their life and their careers charting on the Billboard Hot 100. And so what I can appreciate most, and being a guy who, like yourself, set the table for so many others, you know what I'm saying, To get so many others opportunities and being that guy, What I appreciate most about this album outside of anything, is how he gave these guys opportunities to chart on the Billboard 100. He know the album sales that they gonna get in, the notoriety that those guys gonna get. And so just putting on for your city the way he just put on for his city with this album, to me, that's what I came away with it from. Yes, it's great. Yes, you want to listen to it. The music's incredible. But what he doing for la, I got nothing but respect for that respect.
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Cam Thomas
I do. Gotta ask, what is your favorite album compared? Like, what is the favorite match championship to album? Like, what. Which is. Which is the. Which is the one? You know what I mean? Damn, Dan was sick.
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Baron Davis
Like that.
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Cam Thomas
That was the run.
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Baron Davis
That's the one.
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Cam Thomas
Was that. Was that the run?
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Baron Davis
Absolutely. Like, and for me, that run was like, damn. Like, when you. When you look back on the run, that run was just like, damn. Like, you sum it all up, it went hand in hand. And so that's the one for me that sticks out the most. Because every series, me and Steph just sat back and we was like, damn, this is crazy. Like, wow, we doing this again.
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Cam Thomas
And it was like. And it was like the one word, the one word titles. Fear, Loyalty.
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Baron Davis
Yeah. Like, it fit us, right?
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Cam Thomas
Like, it was definitely. It was definitely themed up, yo.
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Baron Davis
We sitting there like, damn, the loyalty. Like, we doing this again. Like, that's the one.
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Cam Thomas
It's a lot of parallel. It's a lot of parallels in this new album, too. When you think of, you know, swab well up, you know what I mean? You got reincarnation.
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Baron Davis
Yes.
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Cam Thomas
You know what I mean? Kind of like you're on that vibe. Like, it's all kind of like, man at the guard. The warriors reincarnated.
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Baron Davis
Man at the guard.
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Cam Thomas
Y'all squat. Yeah. And at the garden.
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Baron Davis
Come on.
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Cam Thomas
Come on. You know what I mean? Come on, man. These is. Come on, Dre. This is theme music time, baby.
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Baron Davis
Squabble up. Like, that's what we on. Like, when we came in the training.
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Cam Thomas
Camp, you gotta be on.
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Baron Davis
When we came in the training camp, the one thing we said, like, we, like, sat down, we have a meeting. Let's identify the type of team we want to be. We want to be scrappy. We want to be a feisty team. Teams know when they come, how we coming, right? Like, squabble up. You got to be on that.
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Cam Thomas
You gotta be absolutely. And you already know they got that Dodger Blue TV off, all that, you know, just kind of. I feel like his. His titles, you know, just kind of really fit with the thing, you know what I mean?
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Baron Davis
Sure. 1,000, I think.
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Cam Thomas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all adopting it, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, I gotta make Squabble up and TV off. Y'all gotta make that. Y'all gotta make that y'all thing.
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Baron Davis
Heart Part 6. Theme Heart Part 6. They gotta be the thing, right?
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Cam Thomas
Yeah. Shout out to Kendrick's, though. Shout out to Kendrick Lamar. I like it because, you know, just as an artist on the other side, when I'm doing barred oatmeal, just to see kind of like hot LA rappers, you know, coming together, you know what I mean? And, you know, you need a juggernaut like that to kind of put on for the city and put off for everybody else, you know what I mean? Especially in the wicked nip, you know what I'm saying? So you're looking at somebody stepping up, assuming his responsibility, right? So when people get into all the beef and all that, and, you know, it's, we choose, we the west coast, so we gonna ride with the west, you feel what I'm saying? And. And the fact that K putting so many dudes on at the concert, dog, I missed the concert.
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Baron Davis
Back went out.
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Cam Thomas
Because my back went out, I'd have been up there. Hey, hey. They would be mad at me for doing my step, for doing my One too. Aj, I tried to get up that morning, dog. That shit said, no, no, no, it was not happening, dude.
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Baron Davis
Now that's fire.
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Cam Thomas
I'd have fell off the stage. I'd have fell off the stage.
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Baron Davis
You would have went down. Could you imag. That would have been the talk to talk of the pop up.
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Cam Thomas
Hey, bro, that would have been the talk of the summer. Like, this motherfucker got injured in the game.
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Baron Davis
Crazy.
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Cam Thomas
And then what is he up there doing? He trying to walk and throw his back out. No way. The ambulance would have to come and pick me up.
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Baron Davis
Hey, you know what I find interesting about this whole rap beside growing up, growing up in Michigan, in the Midwest. So we listen to everything, right? Like, we listen to west coast music, we listen to east coast music, we listen to the South. Like, we listen to everything. And so I remember, and I was very young, but then also, you know, continuing to listen to that music as I grew up the west coast, you know, with, yeah, Junior mafia, Death Row. Like, I remember all of those beefs and. And then also, like I said, growing up and watching the history and, like, going back and like, just knowing all that stuff is so important to hip hop. For us, it was never a need to, like, oh, I need to pick a side, you know what I'm saying? Because, right, I'm not from the West Coast, I'm not from the East Coast, I'm from the Midwest. And so for us, you can kind of sit back with a. You can kind of sit back and just appreciate the battle, you know what I'm saying? Like, not feel the need to like, man, I'm with Death Row apart, you know what I'm saying? And that's. And by the way, I grew up a huge PAC fan, like, to the point to where maybe for a long time, it took Jay Z a long time to pass pop as the goat for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I. But when it came to the beat, never. Oh, he passed pop for sure. But when it came to the beat, there was never a need for us to like, yo, I'm. I'm over here, I'm over there. So you just sit back and you watch and you appreciate the lyrics. And that's how I feel about this one. It's like, I understand why the west rally behind Kendrick like they did, and I think it was dope as hell to watch, you know what I'm saying? Drake is a little different because you in Toronto, they can't really rally around you from a hip hop standpoint. From a cultural standpoint, like the west can. You know what I'm saying? And so. And watching all of that, I think that was a part of Kendrick's genius in the battle. Like, I think a part of his genius was like, ah, I know, I know the bank.
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Cam Thomas
Who you got up next? Party next door. Yeah.
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Baron Davis
You know what I'm saying?
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Cam Thomas
He wearing lingerie. Absolutely.
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Baron Davis
I don't know about party next door. I'm not a big party next door listener.
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Cam Thomas
But I'm just saying, like, when you go into, you know, when you go into, like the entire west, he locking in with rappers. And, you know, Drake got the whole spectrum, you know what I mean? But it's like you looking at, like, who all rallying, like, where. Where's your hip hop help? Where's your hip hop validation? Where's your OGs? You supposed to go to New York because you are east coast, but it ain't. You know, you ain't. You ain't. You ain't got the. You ain't got the firepower. And you didn't. You didn't really do it. K did in la. You didn't go in and light that on fire in Toronto. Now, Drake has been putting people on for a decade.
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Baron Davis
Many people, you know what I mean?
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Cam Thomas
Around the country. Around the country. But, like, when you look at, you know, being that local cultural influence, I think anytime you get into a rap beef, you better go lock in with your coach. You better go lock in, you know what I mean, with your local people, because that's. You gotta have that support, you know what I mean? Because if you get hate from that, then it just make your foundation unstable.
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Baron Davis
No, it does.
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Cam Thomas
When you battle it, it does for sure.
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Baron Davis
And I think that's. That's what happened. And I think another thing, genius in the whole beat where Kendrick pulled the bay into it, because Drake in the bay.
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Cam Thomas
Oh, yeah, you like huge bay rock with Drake, crazy.
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Baron Davis
To pour the bay into it was genius because it was awesome.
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Cam Thomas
You're gonna let you go. You think the bang gonna let you disrespect.
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Baron Davis
Yeah, it was genius.
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Cam Thomas
That was hella strategic. It was so strategic. Hey, hey, you know the bay dudes, they gonna ride that. That caught their attention like, oh, no. That's what they ain't disrespecting.
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Baron Davis
That was genius for Kendrick to do that.
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Honey German
Hola, mi gente. It's Honey German and I'm bringing you Gracias. Come Again. The podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica peliculas and entertainment with some of the biggest names in the game. If you love hearing real conversations with your favorite Latin celebrities, artists and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars, from actors and artists to musicians and creators sharing their stories, struggles and successes. You know it's going to be filled with chisme, laughs and all the vibes that you love. Each week we'll explore everything from music and pop culture to deeper topics like identity, community and breaking down barriers in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun El Teca Lliente and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get into Todolo Actual. Listen to Gracias Come again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Cam Thomas
The 2025 iHeart Podcast Awards are coming.
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Draymond Green
This is the chance to nominate your podcast for the industry's biggest award.
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Cam Thomas
Submit your podcast for nomination now@iheart.com podcast awards.
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Draymond Green
But hurry. Submissions close on December 8th.
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Cam Thomas
Hey, you've been doing all that talking.
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Draymond Green
It's time to get rewarded for it.
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Cam Thomas
Submit your podcast today@iheart.com podcast awards. That's iheart.com podcast awards. In today's episode, also, we got to discuss the last two games, man. And how we gonna bounce back. Dre, you found.
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Baron Davis
Absolutely.
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Cam Thomas
And then I'll list five players that I'm high on this season. And then we'll also have a guest next. Scar Cam. I call him Cam. Get Buckets Thomas. You feel what I'm saying? So he'll be joining. He'll be joining the show. Dub Nation, as always. What's happening? You know, we was rambling on. Kendrick. We gotta get ready for this season. What's happening? We dropped our last two games in a fashion I know you're not happy about. I want to get rid of Monday's game. Cause I know how that is. You know what I mean? It's like. It's like, you know, but the biggest story coming out of that game is Kerr having Steph bench while the Nets made a run. Do you think that should be the story? And can you pinpoint what the fuck happened?
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Baron Davis
All right, so most definitely number one, both games. I think both of them, we just ran out of gas in the end. I think, you know, I'm not one to make excuses, but running out of gas mean you get a little tired. You get slippage and your execution. You know what I'm saying? It ain't just like, oh, I'm tired. I can't run up the court. It's not that. Like, we're professional athletes. We're well conditioned. You're fine from that standpoint. But it's sometimes when the fatigue hits, you lose your brain, you know, and you start making mistakes that maybe the naked eye won't be able to see, but we know right away it's a mistake when you watch the film, you know, like. And so, you know, I think we run. Ran into a little bit of that.
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Cam Thomas
And I have to say this. Sorry. Teams don't get tired. You know what I mean? Especially when they got momentum. You know what I'm saying? Cause they gotta keep playing till the game is over. And then all of a sudden, if they get some momentum, they didn't think they was gonna win in the first place. So they got all the energy to finish out a game and they got eight dudes on the bench dying to get in, you know what I mean? To pour in where, you know, I think you guys, I was watching, I was watching the game and it was just blow bys, right, Like I haven't seen all year where, you know, you just getting beat off the dribble. And I think it's you playing defense. This is how you play defense. You tired, you want to get up and force the issue, you know what I mean? But then at the same time he just a half a step slower than what you usually are, you know, 100%.
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Baron Davis
So our trap the box there, our trap the box guy wasn't there, who's been there all year. Our trap the box guy wasn't there all night, right? And so you start to go through that. But what I will say is this. Sometimes it takes some losses, like the last couple games we've lost to get better. And for us, you know, you sitting at 12 and 3, everybody, ah, the warriors back, they this, they that. You can start to feel yourself and especially like, like us, where you got a few guys that's done it and a lot of guys that haven't, you know what I'm saying? So you can also have those guys feeling like, oh, I know these guys have done it and look what we doing now. Like, and then you can also have us as leaders, like, here we go again. And you can start feeling yourself like. And so yeah, you have some slippage and at times you can stop getting better. And so I think for us there are some things that we need to address that when you win. And it's hard to address those things because everybody feeling good about themselves when you lose, then it's time to address them things and you get an opportunity to address some things. And everyone's listening, right? Everyone's all ears because everyone wants to turn it around. And so I don't think these two losses are the worst thing for us. Like, they come at a good time for us where now we got a tough part of the schedule. You got to show what you made of, you know what I'm saying? You got to lock in and show what you made of. And I trust and I know that this team will do that, but it's an opportunity for us to grow. And it's game 17. Nobody's panicking now.
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Cam Thomas
So yeah, nobody's in a pressure situation. I think when you talk about running out of gas, I always say it's two Buckets and two stops, right? When you got a lead like that, and if you can get two buckets and two stops, you win the game by 12, you mad, you win the game by eight, you upset. It's still. But to your point, it's the same issue, right? And so this team coming back is not a result of just we ran out of gas. It's like, okay, we are two buckets and two stops away from like, not having to worry about this team. Same thing with San Antonio. Big lead coming off a back to back. Yeah, I look like y'all just ran out of gas, right? But it's also understanding that, no, we not gonna run out of gas. You know what I mean? We're gonna end the game because the rock, because the drive is over. You know what I mean? And when you got young guys, when you got young guys, it's good for them to be in that situation, right? You, Steph, you know what I mean? Looney. The vets, y'all understand, like, damn, we gave that away, you know what I mean? But at the same time, there's going to be three or four more situations where it's going to be Podinski Waters, Kyle Anderson, you know what I mean? GP3, one of those dudes going to click and be like, oh, no, fuck that, you know what I mean? GP2. Yeah, I call him 3. I call them 3.
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Baron Davis
No, for sure, 100%. And listen, like I said, we'll be fine. Now, I do want to address what you asked about, Steph, because that seems to come up a lot. And every time, you know, it backfires, everybody go crazy. But I'm just Steve, like. And by the way, just about every coach in the NBA that I know of, they have the minutes slotted. Like, your minutes going into the game are already slotted. Now, what y'all have to understand about Steve is this. When everybody go crazy, and I'll be honest, it's something that we had to understand playing for him, because as a competitor, you like, yo, like, put me in the game. And like, now you never. He never really get that from. He never get that from us anymore. Because, man, we've been with Steve for 10 years. Like, we know who Steve is. We know what he gonna do. And so here's what people should understand about Steve. This is our 11th year with Steve as our coach. Steve has, and let me not get this wrong, nine championship rings. No. 10, no. 9. Steve Kerr has nine championship rings. He has five as a player. He has four as a coach. Why did I Tell you Steve Kerr have nine championship rings. The reason I'm telling you Steve Kerr has nine championship rings is because on a regular season game on Monday in November, Steve Kerr is not going to overreact to what the minutes are on already. What's been a tough last five days for us overreact to a league going away and put Steph back in the game or myself back in the game because the team on the run. He ain't doing that. So everybody going crazy like, ah, if this was a playoff game, you bet your bottom dollar all of us would have been right back in the game like that.
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Cam Thomas
Absolutely.
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Baron Davis
It's a soft Monday in November versus the Nets. Okay? They beat us. It sucks.
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Cam Thomas
We all hate to lose, but it don't mean.
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Baron Davis
But you're not risking injury to Steph Curry.
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Cam Thomas
You live to play another game, you know what I mean? It's the long man. I remember, I played. Do you remember the year that Blake was out that I think his Ricky year was playing a preseason game against New Orleans. Game over, right? I'm on the bench. We start okay. We look good. We about to be all right with this rookie, right? I'm sitting on the sideline, bro. I'm laying on the floor watching the game. Blake sitting in the chair. They come back in the fourth quarter, Mike Dunleavy go, hey, let's go. We like, huh? They're like, man, let's go. We gotta get this win. Like, what win? It's the preseason, bro. He puts us back in the game. I'm like, coach, I don't think this is a good idea. Blake Griffin hurts his knee.
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Baron Davis
Wow. Is that what happened? I did not know, bro.
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Cam Thomas
That is what happened. That is exactly what happened.
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Baron Davis
Wow.
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Cam Thomas
He put him back in the game in the preseason and that's how our shit got fucked up.
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Baron Davis
Wow.
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Cam Thomas
That's how his first year got fucked off. And it was like, why are you putting him in the game, bro? The game is over. He did what he was supposed to do. It's the preseason. So now you think about, you know, with Steph in regular season now, I hope everybody understand, like, it's okay. You know what I mean? Because the young guys gotta learn to finish the game.
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Baron Davis
It's okay. Everybody, everyone who's in there, young dude.
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Cam Thomas
Some young dude. Moody, moody. Go to work. You know what I mean? Somebody go to work. That is your chance.
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Baron Davis
Everybody out there on that court, who was out there when we lost the league, we're going to need if we want to reach our ultimate goal. If you Think the right thing to do is to snatch them out, to kill their confidence, to put Steph in harm's way. Because you're chasing a win on Monday.
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Cam Thomas
Night, win in November, it ain't gonna work.
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Baron Davis
You won't end up with nine championships, I can tell you.
- [29:17]
Cam Thomas
You ain't playing for the playoffs. You ain't playing for no damn championship. And if. Cause you gonna win some, you gonna lose some, Somebody gonna hit a buzzer, backward shot, all kind of crazy shit can happen. You want to win the ones you know you're gonna win, you gotta lose some. You know what I mean? But at the same time, like, you live to play another day. And then speaking of living to play another day, I got this picture, man, and I need you to describe how is it like. What is it like? Guard Wimby, you know, that's my son's favorite player, seven six. Hey, dog. And to see this pitcher of the great Draymond Green, this dude. This dude don't even look like he not even paying attention to.
- [30:12]
Baron Davis
Hey, it's crazy.
- [30:14]
Cam Thomas
He can't even see you.
- [30:15]
Baron Davis
He don't see me. And you know what? I. I can't say what I was going to say, but I saw this picture. I'm like, yo, the top of my head, that bro nipple. I know. Good. Correction. Now I am starting to get into defensive stance because I can tell you what I'm checking out here on this picture. What I'm looking at is they are getting ready to. I'm. He's in the corner and he coming and he get this pin down now. So I'm looking because I know this pin down is coming. So I gotta get ready to. I'm trying to see what angle is this guy going to come set this screen at. Because if. If I. If I trail him and he get a half a step, he's seven, six is over like you. I can't contest the shot. So I'm trying to see what angle I can take to try to throw this screen off. And then also, I can't just ride him up over the top like you talk, because he's a little frail.
- [31:30]
Cam Thomas
He's nice and so. And he gonna.
- [31:33]
Baron Davis
So if I ride him over the top, and I don't mean frail in a negative way. Wimby is 7, 6, 2, 32, 40.
- [31:43]
Cam Thomas
Yeah, you can't. You can't. Like, if you push him, is.
- [31:46]
Baron Davis
And it's going to move if you trail, right? Like, if I push him.
- [31:49]
Cam Thomas
If you trail and you late. He ain't. He don't even need a dribble to get to, right?
- [31:55]
Baron Davis
So I'm looking at. I'm looking, trying to figure out what angle is the screen about to come from. Because if I ride him over the top and I bump him at all, his arm gonna flail.
- [32:06]
Cam Thomas
If.
- [32:07]
Baron Davis
And they gonna call the foul. They was calling it the whole fourth quarter. So I'm looking like, all right, let me navigate this screen. But then I saw this picture, and I'm like, bro, number one, bro, looking like he unbothered by me. Don't do that.
- [32:20]
Cam Thomas
I gotta get it super.
- [32:21]
Baron Davis
I gotta get at you.
- [32:22]
Cam Thomas
Hey, bro, I gotta get at you.
- [32:25]
Baron Davis
But no, honestly, I'm like, bro, look at this. Like, my. The top of my head. Is that my man?
- [32:32]
Cam Thomas
Is that his number? Is that.
- [32:33]
Baron Davis
It doesn't. It does not cross. It's at the bottom of the spurs logo. Like, it's crazy. But shout out to women, man, that. Man, that. That brother right there, he is going to be so good. He already good, but he gonna be such a problem. But like I said, shout out to Wemby. Wemby last year signed a jersey, his jersey for my son dj. So, yeah, I appreciate Wendy. I got a lot of love for him. That kid gonna be. He is going to be special.
- [33:04]
Cam Thomas
He is something special. I mean, you don't see nothing. Yeah, like, I've never seen, you know, anything like Wemby handle shot and love to play. You know what I mean? He has a certain joy about him, you know, that makes him fun to watch. And he wants to be in the big moment. He wants to live in the big moment. And, you know, his confidence is through.
- [33:32]
Baron Davis
Yes, it is. And they.
- [33:33]
Cam Thomas
You know what I mean? Just like this picture says it all, this picture says it all. You got the great Draymond Green, intense, looking for the screen, and he like, man, just bring the screen already. Yeah, just bring the screen already.
- [33:50]
Baron Davis
Give me the ball. No. Yeah, no, I got. Hey, but I tell you what. So our. Our great producer Charles also found a picture of BD versus someone who's 7 6, killer. Sean Bradley.
- [34:07]
Cam Thomas
Sean Bradley. So we got the picture of BD 76.
- [34:11]
Baron Davis
Did he block this shot?
- [34:12]
Cam Thomas
No way.
- [34:13]
Baron Davis
People out there, what. What Charles want to do is he want to say BD also played against somebody 7 6. It ain't just y'all who play against somebody 7 6. But I'm here to let you all know. And I think Wimbi 7 5. But I'm here to let you all know, it's a big difference. It's a big difference. Like the way Wimby moved the ground. He covered the love for basketball. He had the skill that Wemby has. It's a difference. So don't do that, Charles. That's bullshit. Don't do that.
- [34:49]
Cam Thomas
You can't compare Sean, bro. You compare him a height, but definitely you can't compare him in game or even defensive.
- [34:56]
Baron Davis
That was as bad as Shaq comparing. And y'all know I love Shaq, my favorite player of all time. That's the big homie shout out to the OG Shaq, compare Wimby to Bo Bo, man. Sha, compare Wimby to Bobo.
- [35:11]
Cam Thomas
Hey, bro, Shaq stood on that. Hey, bro, Shaq was standing. Shaq was standing on that. Dude. He had me yelling at the TV that night like, yo, come on, Big.
- [35:23]
Baron Davis
F. I'm always riding with Diesel. I'm kidding. Let y'all know. I'm always riding with Big Diesel.
- [35:29]
Cam Thomas
I understand what you trying to say. That's like, you got. Hey, bro, I understand what you're trying. Trying to say. I get it.
- [35:37]
Baron Davis
I get it.
- [35:40]
Cam Thomas
We just can't read everything.
- [35:44]
Baron Davis
Oh, okay.
- [35:45]
Cam Thomas
So, okay. See, they coming in town. We got to get focused. So what's the focus on bouncing back? You know, playing against a team like this, you know, they hungry. You guys got to get, you know, you'll get back game to get hungry. Talk to me about, you know, how you feeling about this?
- [36:04]
Baron Davis
Coming off two losses, you know, we always talk about winning the week. We still got an opportunity to win the week, but coming off two straight losses, this is a good game. Coming off two straight losses, because this game going to challenge you to be the team that you are. This game is going to challenge you to execute. This game is going to challenge you to be locked in for 48. You know what I'm saying? So the things that we've struggled with these last two games, for whatever reason, who cares? This game is a team that, you know going in. This is a team that we can face down the line. Not only do we need to prove that we can compete and all of that, because that's every night, but we also need to play this team great, to give our staff a good look. So if we see this team down the road, you got a good look at things that you want, you may want to do, you know what I'm saying? Things that works before. And so you also need to give your staff a good look against the great teams that you could face down the road. And OKC is obviously one of those Teams that going to be right there at the end competing for it all. And we want to be one of those teams that are competing for it all. So it's great to come back, you know, to a game like this to lock you back in. And if you're going to win it, you're going to have to be locked in for the year.
- [37:22]
Cam Thomas
And it's going to be a dog fight. Yeah, it's going to be a dog fight, too. And this is the type of game you kind of, you know, you always use as a measuring stick. And it's like, like these are the ones, you know, that I just want the win. Long as we get the win, I'm good. Don't care how we play.
- [37:38]
Baron Davis
Blowout, lead this and that.
- [37:40]
Cam Thomas
Just get the win. Another team coming in too, Phoenix. And, you know, finally they got their big three healthy. You got Booker, KD and Bradley. Bill, who's my guy? You know, I've been waiting to see how they really, like, hit the ground running, man. Talk a little bit about, is this the first time playing against these three together?
- [38:01]
Baron Davis
This is our first time. I. So I remember Brad being in the game and KD when Steph hit the shot last year, but I'm not sure I remember book playing. But I don't think this is our first time seeing them together. But I'm not sure, but they're playing well when those three are on the court together tonight, they. They mocked the Lakers coming, completely mopped the Lakers. And so, you know, an NBA cup game where, you know, you coming in locked in, you know, it's an NBA cup game. So they mopped the Lakers. And when those guys were on the court, they were, I think, number one in the west when all three of those guys were healthy or right there. So it's going to be a tough game. These next two are tough, but they are both against opponents that you could see down the road. And you got to be locked in, right? You gotta show you belong. You gotta give your staff a good look. So, you know, these are great tests for us coming up the rest of this week.
- [38:58]
Cam Thomas
I love that. And then y'all clinch the spot in the NBA Cup. Congratulations with a win over the Pelicans. My boy Andrew Wig Wig going off, had 30 points, man. I, you know, he remind me of like someone like Jason Richardson, right? It's like when J. Rich used to get hot. Like, you knew it was going to be 1, 2, 3, 4. It could be eight games in a row, right? And because of the way, you know, because of the way he play. It's like, oh, shit. Like, this dude is wide open every time, you know what I mean? And he can get his money. And I just think that it's dope when you see your teammates playing well, right? Because it starts to, like. Especially somebody like Wiggins, where it's like, yo, that's a. He's such a big piece to unlocking all the potential, you know what I mean? Like, J. Rich was a huge piece for us. Like, us unlocking everything that comes. You know what I mean? Every situation that could come after that. Talk about Wigs and just how he playing and what that does for you.
- [40:12]
Baron Davis
Well, he's a lot. Also, like Jason Richardson. He gonna guard our best, the other team's most of the time. Wigs is huge for us. And when he's playing that well, when he's. It's not a matter of if he's playing well or not, because Wigs is actually one of those talents that you don't come around often. It's a matter of if he's being aggressive or not. And right now, lately, he's been super. All year, he's been super aggressive. And when Wiggs is super aggressive, there's not many people that can stop him. That dude can dribble, he can shoot, he can jump, he get to the rim, he can finish. Like, he's the number one pick for a reason. He's an All Star on the championship team for a reason. Like, Wiggs is a special, special talent. So it's just a matter of mindset. And when his mindset is, I'm going at you, both defensively and offensively, he's one of the better players in this league, and he been showing that this year. And it's one of the reasons that we are in the position that we're in in the west. And, you know, right there with an opportunity to get back the number one spot in the West.
- [41:24]
Cam Thomas
Quiet Assassin, man. Quiet Assassin. I saw him, I want to say, last summer, and I was like, man, you so quiet. He's so quiet, but deadly.
- [41:34]
Baron Davis
Yeah.
- [41:35]
Cam Thomas
You know what I mean? And what I'm seeing from him is you see an aura of confidence, you know what I mean? Like, he has this aura about him that, you know, when he. Like when he walk a certain way, you know what I mean, on the court, you know, he locked in, you know, and he aggressive, he in tune in the game. I definitely think, like, he is that guy that unlocks Draymond's offensive potential even more. Steph Even, you know, Kyle Anderson, you know what I mean? Kaminga Moody, all these people like because you, not you not thinking about him because he's so quiet, but you have to think about him. You know what I mean? But he always open because he's so quiet. He always in the right spot. So, yeah, shout out to wig man. I love the way he playing. He done scored 20 plus in the last four or five games. You know, coming into this cup game, you know, clinching that spy was huge. Yes, sir.
- [42:39]
Baron Davis
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- [45:06]
Baron Davis
Like we said earlier, we got a certified bucket getter coming to the show. One of the best scorers in the league, especially at his age. Youngest player in NBA history to have three straight 40 plus games. He is the leading all time scorer at the Oak Hill Academy. And if you know anything about basketball, you know Oak Hill. And like so many guys that has gone through there, the amount of guys, the amount of NBA pros that has gone through there and overseas, high level, like crazy. Leading scorer all time. None other. Brooklyn Nets guard, Cam Thomas. What's up, young fella?
- [45:44]
Draymond Green
What? I was good with y'all.
- [45:45]
Baron Davis
I feel the way y'all beat us tonight. I ain't too happy about this, but we definitely appreciate you coming on.
- [45:51]
Draymond Green
I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you for having me.
- [45:54]
Baron Davis
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
- [45:55]
Cam Thomas
My dog, Cam.
- [45:56]
Draymond Green
What's good? What's good, bro?
- [45:57]
Cam Thomas
What's good? I mean, it's my first time really getting to say something to you, bro. I watch you and man, when I. When you are the definition of getting busy, you know what I mean? When you come in the game, you are not messing around. You know what I'm saying? It's like you the dj, you like whatever's happening. Oh, it's cracking, baby. Hey, you be out there getting busy. You know what? He was getting busy on the Warriors. I was, I was three points in 23 minutes. Hey, bro, hey, hey, listen. I was like, damn, man, don't let this dude get going. He don't stop, yo, please don't let this dude get going, man. Talk about, you know, just talk about. And then I heard that you averaged 30 in junior high school.
- [46:57]
Draymond Green
Yeah, yeah, A lot of. A lot of buckets.
- [46:59]
Baron Davis
A lot of buckets.
- [47:00]
Cam Thomas
All right, all right, bro. Who programmed you?
- [47:04]
Baron Davis
You know what I mean?
- [47:05]
Cam Thomas
Because you gotta be like some type of like, like goddamn scoring machine robot. Who programs you, dog?
- [47:12]
Draymond Green
My mom. Really? I'm already. Don't want to make her mad, you know, after the game she in my ear mad and stuff. So that really. What really, like, fueled me to really kill every game and stuff. So really, my mom really, like, got my mindset to be a, you know, a killer every game.
- [47:29]
Cam Thomas
Like, did she. Did she whoop you after the game if you didn't like.
- [47:32]
Baron Davis
Nah.
- [47:32]
Cam Thomas
Just over 20. Like, what happened?
- [47:34]
Draymond Green
Like, just yelling, nagging my ear.
- [47:36]
Cam Thomas
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [47:38]
Draymond Green
Cause I'm tired of hearing that. So I just gotta go.
- [47:42]
Baron Davis
My mom the same way, bro. Obviously, just not about scoring because I don't got like you do, but my mom, same way. Like, I always hear it still to this day if I have a bad game.
- [47:55]
Draymond Green
Yeah, exactly. Same, same. I'm like, nah, nah, nah. Now I gotta go kill next game. Like, I'm tired of hearing all this in my ear after every game. Like, Dang, it's like 82 games.
- [48:05]
Baron Davis
That's fine. That's. Hey, I'll tell you what.
- [48:08]
Cam Thomas
Every game, dog.
- [48:09]
Draymond Green
Yeah. Like one game out of 82.
- [48:12]
Baron Davis
Get to it. I respect. I respect Mom. Dude, stay on.
- [48:16]
Cam Thomas
Don't let up. Moms don't let up.
- [48:19]
Baron Davis
Stay on.
- [48:19]
Cam Thomas
He put the heat, the pressure.
- [48:21]
Baron Davis
Absolutely.
- [48:21]
Cam Thomas
He depressed.
- [48:22]
Baron Davis
Hey, and I'll tell you what the. This, our strategy. We had a great strategy to stop him yesterday. Bd the strategy was, yeah, I was gonna ask that. We were gonna double him. No matter where he went on the floor, we were double teaming. If he came off a handoff, we was double teaming him. If he came off a ball screen, we was double teaming him. And when I realized the strategy wasn't gonna work, bd, I was in a full out trap. Me and Moses Moody. And I'm like, oh, yeah, we got him close to the sideline. He about to turn the ball over. That man pulled up and shot. I almost fouled him because I'm still coming up on the trap. Like, I'm still closing the trap here. And he just rose up and shot it. I was like, oh, oh no. This is Kobe life.
- [49:09]
Draymond Green
Nah, I definitely noticed that they were trapping all game, but then I was like, all right. Cause like, we kind of had an idea that, you know, it'll be a lot of blitz in all games. So we kind of had a good scheme to counter, but then at a point in time, you just gotta see it early and then still get the ball and attack, no matter if the blitz is on you or not. So I think. I think, you know, we had a good game plan for it, but, you know, I just came out and just wanted to be aggressive for sure.
- [49:32]
Cam Thomas
Yeah. As a Young dude, dog. Like, you know, you be killing every time you get in. Like, I love how prepared and patient you are. You know what I mean? And a lot of dudes, A lot of dudes get opportunities in the league. They go to the right team, right situation. It's like, man, they may not have all the game, but it's the right fit. You got all the game, all the game that the NBA needs, you know what I mean? And, you know, a lot of times you're playing time in the way you play it fluctuate. I mean, just talk about, like, how do you keep a level head, like, outside of, like, how do you prep? Like, you know what I'm saying? Cause when they put you in the game, you won't all the time. You know what I mean? And, you know, you seem like in your rookie year, you know, you gotta make adjustments, you know what I'm saying? Like, you get bench some play some score, 40, don't play. Like, talk about that process and, like, how you stay above board.
- [50:39]
Draymond Green
Yeah, just, you know, like you said, my first two years in and out, you know, going crazy. And then you don't play the next game. You know, that's tough for your score. Like me, because you, like, you know, I can play out here. Like, I can really, like, kill out here. Then you just like, like start getting down. You're like, ain't like, like, what am I doing wrong out here? And then you just start developing patience, talking to the vets, seeing what, you know, the stuff they went through. And then, you know, I probably say my last two years, you know, my third year, my fourth year is probably. Well, this year's probably the only year where I'm really feel like, you know, comfortable as far as, like, knowing I'm a play, knowing I'm a part of, you know, the team every night if I'm healthy enough to play. So I probably say, just really, I really developed that patience for my first two years and just being always, like, steady, but always, like, ready. Like, ready for no. Like, ready for whatever. So I really think my first two years really helped me, shape me to be the player I am right now. Just learning and going through those learning curves and stuff.
- [51:36]
Baron Davis
You, You. Who would you say was your vet along the way that was helping you figure these things out?
- [51:46]
Draymond Green
Probably my first year mainly, you know, kd and then, you know, once. Once Kyle was around more then me and him really connected. So probably say those two for sure. I'll probably say those are my, you know, my vets for sure. Just talking to him, hanging out and stuff. Just doing all the, you know, all the team stuff together. So. Yeah.
- [52:03]
Baron Davis
No, that's fire. And I've never heard you speak this much, so I'm actually happy to know that you talk.
- [52:12]
Cam Thomas
Yeah, for sure.
- [52:14]
Baron Davis
It actually leads me.
- [52:15]
Cam Thomas
Go ahead, Jay. Go ahead.
- [52:17]
Baron Davis
It actually leads me into something that I want to say to you and a conversation that I want to have with you and that I know BD will have a lot to say about as well. But the way you play the game of basketball, when I see you hoop, the guys who get buckets, like you get buckets, they're all loved and, like, people are so excited to see them play, you know, like they're celebrated. You think of Kyrie the way Kyrie get buckets. You go, Jamal Crawford, you go, Lou, will you go? Like all of these guys who are just a straight kd, like a straight bucket, Right? Like, that's what they do when they walk in, you know, they are getting a bucket. No matter how you guard them, no matter what you do, they are going to figure out to get a bucket. They're all celebrating. I know you're young, but I don't see the excitement around the name Cam Thomas. Yeah. The way it should be for somebody who scored a basketball like you. And I want to ask you, do. Do you have a reason why that is? And I also want to share with you why I think that is.
- [53:41]
Draymond Green
Yeah. Hey, I would love to know, because I've been going through this since, you know, the grassroots really just always been, like, overlooked, especially by, you know, the media and stuff. People saying, like, putting people over you when you know they're not better than you, but then you don't. But then, you know, it's still politics at the end of the day, but then you. Like, at the end of the day, you still gotta look at the talent. Like, I'm way better than him. But you're putting him over me because of. Because of what? Because I'm. Because I'm not on social media as much. Like, I don't. I don't talk as much. I just go about my business and go on to the next game. So, I mean, I guess it's just because I don't. I'm not really around much. I don't talk much. I just go out there and play, handle my business and go on. But. But hey, if you can tell me why, then I would love to know. Because I've been. Yeah, because I've been really, like, wanting to know why I don't get enough, you know, love or respect as, you know, the other buckets in the league. So especially at my age, like right now, I'm averaging about 25 a game. I'm like, man, I don't barely hear about it. So it's like, I just love to know why.
- [54:39]
Baron Davis
Well, I'll share a few things with you because I think there's a few reasons. One of your most famous lines that people have ever heard from you is.
- [54:49]
Draymond Green
What, what can you say?
- [54:52]
Baron Davis
Funny, ain't funny. And right. Ain't funny was so funny to me. Like, why are you online? Because ain't funny. That was so funny to me. And what I would say to you is, if ain't funny, then make sure everybody know ain't funny. And what I mean by that is you have to make people hate you because ain't funny. Yeah, they gotta feel like, ain't shit funny with him. I hate him. If you're not going to make them hate you because ain't shit funny, then you need to make them love you. And the way to make them love you is score. The way you score, smile more. Because I've seen you smile more right here in 10 minutes than I've ever seen in your four years in NBA. I've seen you smile more right here.
- [55:36]
Cam Thomas
Come on.
- [55:36]
Baron Davis
And I'm like, damn, maybe something is funny.
- [55:38]
Cam Thomas
Don't try not to smile. That's how he watching you smile like.
- [55:43]
Baron Davis
Damn, maybe something is funny. But smile more and be more. Be more extravagant when you score, get the crowd involved, talk to them or ain't funny at all times. And I'm making sure you know ain't funny. And I'm coming at you that way. And I'mma make you hate me because ain't funny. And you have. I think you have to do that. You got to give people more personality. If you think. If you think that being a star in this NBA is just because you just going to score points and be a star in this NBA, I'm here to tell you you missing the boat, brother. And I'm going to tell you why you missing the boat. Because this is the NBA, brother. This is, you know, the NBA. When they come around to record, they say, NBA, E don't think that's just the people that's recording. That's this whole thing. Yeah, this is entertainment. This is show business. And in show business, there's a character that's hated and there's a character that's love. The character that sit in the middle, he get Killed off the show in week one. The character that sits in the middle, they get a line. A couple lines they may say in the movie, and then you never hear from them again. That's the character that sit in the middle. So you scoring. The way you score, you have to decide ain't shit funny. I'm gonna make sure y'all know that that's where I stand at all times. And so many things about me gonna say that and people will be able to grab onto that ain't funny or the way you score, it's electric, man. The way you bounce around the court, you come off, you jump high as hell on that is electric.
- [57:23]
Cam Thomas
So guess what then?
- [57:24]
Baron Davis
Be electric. Be electric in the arena, right? Like you may say, ah, that ain't me. If you want to be who I think you want to be, because you don't score the ball the way you score, I feel like I don't know you well. I feel like you live in the gym, because there's no way you score the ball the way you score.
- [57:41]
Cam Thomas
You can do that, dude.
- [57:42]
Baron Davis
And you are that confident anytime you have the ball. And you don't just live in the gym. So I'm going to throw this out there. You're a gym rat. And if I'm wrong, if I'm lying, I'm flying. I don't think I'm flying anywhere. But you gotta get.
- [57:55]
Cam Thomas
I wanna piggyback. Yep. I wanna piggyback off that. Cause you know what? I always consider myself an underdog in my career. You know what I mean? It was always dudes ranked over me. And that was because the NBA is, to Dre's point, it's entertainment, right? So you gonna have dudes who get bigger marketing deals or get more recognized or make the All Star team because they own a better team. But what he's saying is Persona, right? I had to go and say, okay, I don't think none of these dudes is better than me. They may be in better situations, but what am I going to do? Like, if we all averaging between seven to 10 assists, you know what I mean? What else can I bring? Fuck it. I'm going to lead the league in steals. I'm going to try and be a defensive nightmare. But then when I rock, man, I'm about to rock. I'm about to rock these dudes to sleep. You feel what I'm saying? And I. I never talked. Really. I didn't. I didn't talk shit. But it was just little antics, you know what I mean? A smirk like, ain't funny. Like, that's a smile and then a frown, right? That. It's that little do that. That's. That's your. That's your mantra. You feel what I'm saying? That's your Persona. So now them 25. Them 25 points got a story to it. It got energy to it. Other people feeling. You know what I mean? They feeling you got. You got to make people feel your points, you know what I mean? You out there getting buckets like. Like, it's the easiest thing in the world, so you make shit look hella easy, you know what I mean? But you gotta make people feel it. You gotta have opponent, opponents feel it. Your teammates gotta feel it. The energy in the arena, they gotta feel it. And you ain't gotta be a rah rah dude. Cause you ain't a rah rah dude. But all you gotta do is smile and frown because ain't shit funny. You know what I mean? And so, like, that Persona becomes what you walk in the gym with. That's what Dre said. You walking in the gym, man, ain't shit funny. That don't mean shit ain't funny. It just ain't funny today. Not when I'm on this court, you know what I mean? Not when I'm out here. Ain't shit funny. And y'all gonna pay for it. And so that's. I think that's where you are now is like, all right, you 25 in the game, bro. And what. Yeah, and what. You know what I mean? And what? Add something to challenge yourself to and then wrap that shit in that Persona. That ain't shit funny. Now, them 25 gonna be 28, 6, 4, you know what I mean? And, like, you gonna be walking off the court like, damn, they fucking with me. You know what I mean? They really went high. Get down. I ain't said I ain't really changed nothing but my Persona, you know what I mean? And, like, I think that's. I think that's what it is. Because you so goddamn talented and you so quiet, and you do it so naturally. It's like, man, I've been doing this. Why they don't no go. Go make them pay attention to you for sure, you know? Yeah.
- [60:58]
Baron Davis
I got you because you got the hard part.
- [61:01]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [61:02]
Baron Davis
Like, the thing that most people don't have is the hard part. Like, the hard part is easy for you.
- [61:09]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [61:10]
Baron Davis
You see what I'm saying?
- [61:11]
Draymond Green
Yeah, Yeah, I see what you're saying.
- [61:13]
Baron Davis
Like, I love. I love Kawhi Leonard, he's a special talent. Watched him grow in the league, has. I came in, I think, a year after Kawhi, played against him in some great battle. Kawhi Leonard has made a bunch of money. Kawhi Leonard is a star. He's never been a superstar because he don't speak.
- [61:35]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [61:35]
Baron Davis
You know what I'm saying? And you know when he first signed.
- [61:39]
Cam Thomas
With Newbound, but he got a hell of a brand, Right. You know what I mean? He got a brand by not speaking.
- [61:44]
Baron Davis
But check this out, though. No, but check this out. No one really was catching on to Kawhi, right. He signs with New Balance in the first commercial. They do kind of the little penny thing. It's two people arguing, and it's not Kawhi's voice. Right. They found one moment to capitalize on. They found his laugh.
- [62:03]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [62:04]
Baron Davis
And now he's the funny guy.
- [62:06]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [62:07]
Baron Davis
Right. And since he became the funny guy now Kawhi is more talked about than ever. He's more known than ever. Right. Like, and he's played less since then, but he's the funny guy. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? They found a way. And that's all this is, bro. So I just wanted to say to you, like, don't. Don't miss the boat. Like, don't miss the boat and think that if I go, all right, they ain't listen when I score 25, so I'm average 30 this year. All right? They ain't listen when I average 30. I'm an average 40. Like, they gonna be like, yo, that's crazy. He averaging 40. But in order for it to equal out for more for Cam Thomas.
- [62:51]
Cam Thomas
Yeah.
- [62:51]
Baron Davis
Give a little more. Like BD said, maybe you smile and it's a frown because they should. But give a little more, man. Don't miss the boat thinking, nope. It's just going to be about buckets. Because I'm going to tell you this as much as it is about buckets. Just buckets ain't going to sell for the NBA.
- [63:08]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [63:08]
Baron Davis
And that's what this is all about. At the end of the day, it's entertainment, show business. So be a part of the show.
- [63:15]
Cam Thomas
Talk that talk, big homie. Tell him to tell him, hey, bro, this is. This is. And this is real game. You know what I mean? This is like, there's some big homie shit and some big brother shit. Because, you know, usually you don't get this type of game, you know, when somebody. Your rival, right? And then a lot of times you on a Team where, you know, it ain't a lot of vets, you know what I mean? Y'all not winning. It look like y'all tanking, but this is a great opportunity for you to add those two things to your game, you know what I mean? So take that challenge and say, okay, when this. When I. When they gonna know who I am coming out of this season, right? I'm gonna add these two things to my Persona and also my game, you know what I mean? And then the basketball guy's gonna take care of you, bro. Cause you. You got. You got super. You got superpowers in this space, you know what I mean, for what you do. And then my question is, like, what. What. What is. What is the. What is your motivating factor? You know what I'm saying? Cause I heard you say you get overlooked. You've been doing this for a while. Like, what. What continue to motivate you and where do you want to be?
- [64:30]
Draymond Green
Yeah, just the motivating part. Just always being, you know. You know, like everybody say the underdog overlook not getting enough respect that you want in the league or wherever you play at. So. So that's always going to motivate me. I probably say now, my first few years, it was just, you know, being drafted late, you know, drafting late in the draft. But now it's really like my first two years not playing. So I really use that as well as the motivation, like, dish up on my shoulders. People would say, as me not playing my first two years. So I really use that now. But really just trying to use anything I can just to go out there and have some type of edge, to go dominate each game. So probably does all that for real.
- [65:14]
Cam Thomas
I love that, man.
- [65:15]
Baron Davis
Do you see? Ultimately, as BD said, I think most people thought y'all were going to be a team that's tanking. All of a sudden, you bring in a new coach who I respect. You know, I've seen him on the bench with Mike Brown. I respect the intensity that he brings to the game. And I've heard from people that I respect his basketball minds, that he's a great basketball. Yeah, I don't know that. To be certain, I've never interacted with him much, but what I do appreciate is he bring a fire to the sideline. Like, even when he's assistant, he was up off the bench, he's screaming like, he bring a certain fire that I respected. And so when you look at trading Mikel Bridges, who was the leading scorer on the team, you know, most people like, oh, they tanking and then all of a sudden, now you got the ball in your hand. Dennis is one of the ultimate competitors I've played against. You know, you got Cam Johnson playing well, Dorian Finney Smith, who's just a dog. All of a sudden, y'all ain't as bad as people thought y'all was going to be, right? Like, y'all right there near 500, which in the east, by the way, right now you right in the thick of things, you know what I'm saying?
- [66:27]
Cam Thomas
Yeah.
- [66:28]
Baron Davis
Do you see yourself in the way now that you've been handed the keys to the offense being a part of their long term future? Is that what you see in your future moving forward in this league?
- [66:40]
Draymond Green
Yeah, I definitely see me as, you know, being that guy. Just be able to grow from 18, 19 years old to where I am now. So I just, it's always been like that second home for me. The fans love me, so I definitely really like gravitate towards the fans and the fans gravitate towards me, especially because how I play, you know, New York love bucket getters, so that's really what. But they really gravitate towards me and that aspect.
- [67:03]
Cam Thomas
They do, man.
- [67:04]
Draymond Green
So, yeah, they always. So they always have my back, no matter what. So I really would love to be in Brooklyn. Of course.
- [67:11]
Cam Thomas
I like your growth, you know, I like the way that you were patient, you've been ready, and now you stepping into your opportunity to prove to be who you are, right? To stamp your name in that top 25, them top five shooting guards, you know what I mean? And I think that, you know, as Brooklyn gets better, as you continue to grow, like you can cornerstone, you know what I mean? And give this franchise somebody to recognize, you know what I mean? And you know, I'm just excited for everything that you got going, your growth. I want to see more shit, you know what I mean? Like I would me, I'm an old head, I'm your og. I need to see more shit. You feel what I'm saying? Because I know you can score, right? But I want, I want you in that, that other, that upper echelon, right? Because your scoring is so dangerous that what are the other two things that you gonna add is a rebound and is it playmaking, is it defense, is it still, is it hustle plays? You know what I mean? Are you a glue guy? Is it, you know, whatever it is, it gotta be something else to make them hate you.
- [68:30]
Draymond Green
I think this year, yeah, I think this year, though, what most people don't see is the playmaking. Sometimes I'm not gonna get the assist. Cause you know, like when Gold State was blitzing, I'm passing to the pocket. I don't. I don't get the assist for it if somebody's in the pocket and make that hockey assist. So I think, I think my. I think for me, you gotta watch me play to know like, oh, he is playmaking. Cause you know, I'm getting out the blitz, so you know, it's on the guy, whoever would set the screen in the blitz to make the right play. So I'm like getting the hockey assist, which is not really an assist for me. So I think that part of my game has really grown. And obviously with Jordy, he really, you know, was preaching defense, playing, just playing hard on defense. I think that aspect really helped.
- [69:13]
Cam Thomas
That just means you don't like to pass the goddamn.
- [69:16]
Draymond Green
That means I'm getting blitzed and you.
- [69:20]
Cam Thomas
Get double team and you frustrated and you like it, I might as well make the right.
- [69:27]
Baron Davis
You know what's funny about that?
- [69:28]
Cam Thomas
Hey, Doug, that's what scores do. That's what scores do.
- [69:32]
Baron Davis
Oh, yeah.
- [69:32]
Cam Thomas
You know, I'm play making and. No, you ain't. You shooting the ball all the time, bro. So when you get double team.
- [69:40]
Baron Davis
Hey, check this out though. What I will say is I understand that. You know why I understand that? Like, obviously I think I'm an incredible playmaker and like, I can pass the ball. Yeah. But I made a career out of getting the ball out of a blitz with Steph Curry and making the next play. Steph didn't necessarily get the assist and it was on me to read what the next play was, but I can. They're. They're to read because Steph Curry just drew two defenders. So now there's someone open. I need to find the open guy. Cool. I can find an open man with my eyes closed. Right. And so I understand what you're saying, though. And like, even watching you last night for 23 minutes that you played.
- [70:24]
Cam Thomas
Yeah, you played great.
- [70:25]
Baron Davis
Way more willing. The only shot that drove me up a wall was when you shot over me. Double team. Parker's almost filed, but I just could not believe you shot that shot. But you were way more of a willing pastor than I thought you were.
- [70:38]
Draymond Green
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just. Yeah, you know, that's just the growth this year, going over the film and stuff and just knowing. I mean, just knowing that teams will probably send the blitz at me a lot more this year. So it's really just just Being open to being that willing passer, hitting the guy in that pocket and just trusting that he can make the right play. And you know, because at, at the end of the day, he's four on three on the backside with, you know, drawn two defenders. So you just gotta live the result and live with the play the guy made. So that's really just part of my growth this year, my fourth year. So helped. That's really helped me for sure.
- [71:06]
Cam Thomas
Hey, bro, but you only get a half. I said two to two.
- [71:13]
Draymond Green
The whole day. Nah.
- [71:17]
Cam Thomas
Hey, bro, the hockey assist is half. That's half steals. Come on, dog. Two steals. All right, this is what we gonna do. Two steals, right? Or let's say 1.5 steals and three fouls average for the rest of the year. We gotta get them fouls up. Hey, bro. We gotta get the fouls up.
- [71:38]
Draymond Green
Get the fouls up.
- [71:39]
Cam Thomas
Yeah, yeah. Cause that means you playing defense, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I used to stay in foul trouble, but I did lead the league in steals. But I just think that like Persona personality wise, right? Oh yeah, you scoring, you scoring, but you ain't fouling nobody.
- [71:59]
Baron Davis
You know what I mean?
- [71:59]
Cam Thomas
Like, I think it just makes you more aggressive and you got to make up defensively, right, to like, man, go hack somebody three times. Like, just know I'm about to hack somebody three times and it should be the starting shooting guard or whoever you guard. You know what I mean? That shit ain't funny. You know what I mean? Ain't nothing funny. There ain't nothing funny when I come out here and be hacking. Because they ain't gonna call them all. That's how you get your steals.
- [72:31]
Baron Davis
And it's a presence.
- [72:33]
Draymond Green
Yeah, right.
- [72:33]
Baron Davis
It goes into the same thing, what we were saying. You. I once heard Boo Williams, who I got a lot of respect for. I played with the family on the Nike circuit. I remember going to Bo Williams tournament. The Boo Williams tournament. Yeah. Obviously he's a pioneer in this. The guys, he's had that one in particular, Allen Iverson. Bubba Chuck, who we all love.
- [72:58]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [72:59]
Baron Davis
He said, no, Cam Thomas is the best scorer I've ever been around. Not Allen Iverson. What does that do for you to hear that like that. That to me, that's crazy.
- [73:10]
Cam Thomas
That's wild.
- [73:12]
Draymond Green
It's definitely, it's definitely great to hear, especially from a guy like you said, who's coached. I made numerous pros, numerous first round picks, all that stuff. Hall of Famers. So it's definitely step in the right direction for me. But, you know, I mean, that's. I mean, that's really like everything, especially being from the same area, me and like being close, near the same area. So that's really like everything. So that's definitely a top tier compliment for me. So I just want to keep going for sure.
- [73:41]
Cam Thomas
And then you did play with K like you play with Katie. Yeah, Katie, James Harden and Kyrie. What was the one on ones? We didn't really talk about them. Ones.
- [73:53]
Draymond Green
Yeah, we ain't really played ones, though. Yeah, bro, we never really played. Monster real, honestly.
- [73:59]
Baron Davis
What?
- [73:59]
Draymond Green
Yeah, bro, we never played.
- [74:01]
Cam Thomas
You weren't trying to get. I was trying to play.
- [74:04]
Draymond Green
No, I was.
- [74:05]
Cam Thomas
They didn't want it. They weren't ready. They didn't want it.
- [74:07]
Draymond Green
You know, season, season lays. They was like, they want to stay for the season. I'm like, yeah, bro, we never really played Juan, for real, when I was here with them. So I was like, dang, man, KD.
- [74:23]
Baron Davis
Always playing one, always.
- [74:24]
Draymond Green
And he didn't really want to play.
- [74:26]
Baron Davis
I was like, wow, that is disappointing.
- [74:29]
Draymond Green
Yeah. But no, it's definitely good though, playing with those guys, you know, those guys I can consider my brothers, really. Just like, be able to build that bond with them, being able to have like, their number and talk to them, whatever. So. So I definitely cherish, you know, that year and a half win for sure.
- [74:43]
Cam Thomas
And what did you take from each one, if you could? Yeah, one thing that you took from each.
- [74:48]
Draymond Green
Yeah, just Kai, you know, Kyle first, just his patience offensively. I mean, he don't let nobody speed him up, especially in the league. I really try to take that, just not letting nobody speed me up, getting to my spots and just be able to make the shot at my spot. You can't really learn much from K because K, like, like, you know, seven feet doing what he do. So it's kind of hard to learn from him at my side. Yeah, you just watching like, oh, damn, that's tough. And then James, like, you know, like I said, I said before, like, I really patterned my game after James when he was in Houston. Just watching, like, I really try to pattern my game after him a little bit, but still take stuff from him. But I really try to pattern my game after him. He was in Houston with the ball in his hand to step back, threes and stuff, all the, you know, ISO moves. So I really try to pattern my game after James a little bit. So, you know, before I even got there, I was already tapped in with watching James and stuff, knowing all his moves and stuff. So, yeah, that.
- [75:43]
Cam Thomas
That, man. That's amazing.
- [75:44]
Baron Davis
That brings me to a question.
- [75:45]
Cam Thomas
3. Go ahead. Go ahead.
- [75:47]
Baron Davis
No, I was about to say that.
- [75:48]
Cam Thomas
No, I was just going to say he played with three players that have flawless offensive games, no offensive deficiency. So that was it. Go ahead.
- [76:01]
Baron Davis
I was going to ask because I saw James make a comment the other day, and I actually. Most people would take it as a slight ass Steph. I don't take it as a slight ass, Steph, because quite frankly, a. The man just said stuff was in.
- [76:16]
Cam Thomas
A realm of his own.
- [76:17]
Baron Davis
So, yeah, respect that. But he made a valid point, and he was talking about the way that he played basketball and the step backs and all of that, like, how much a lot of people drew from his game. And so I guess my question to you is. And coming up during that time, obviously, I'm in it and I'm playing. Do you think more young guys like yourself were watching James and saying, oh, man, I want to play like that, or watching Steph and saying that?
- [76:45]
Draymond Green
Good question. I think we were mainly. I think we really gravitated towards James because James was doing the isos and, like, breaking people down 101, scoring the 40s and 50s. I think Steph really changed the way teams wanted to play the game of basketball. Shooting the threes, the pace of, you know, the pace y'all play at just moving around without the ball. I think Steph really changed the way the teams around the league try to play. James really changed the individual play of, you know, players like the ISOs. Really me, just the ISOs, the handles, step backs, shooting tough shots, you know, just the foul drawing, just all that stuff. I think James really changed the individual skills of how players wanted to play the game. Steph really changed, like, the team culture. You know, everybody want to shoot threes now. Everybody. If you can't shoot threes, you can't play. So it's like he really changed. Definitely changed the team aspect of the league, for sure.
- [77:38]
Baron Davis
Wow. That's.
- [77:39]
Cam Thomas
That's.
- [77:39]
Baron Davis
That's incredible. I never thought about that.
- [77:42]
Cam Thomas
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Especially from the young dudes. It's good to hear from the young dudes because, you know, it's like, who y'all gravitating to? Yeah, right. And who you pattern your game after is. And Dre go back to, really, the statement that Harden made. You know what I mean? It's like, there's a difference between what Steph do and how he get it done and, you know, Harden. And I think, like, this next generation, like, you guys are all so weaponized, offensive. You know what I mean? It's just like. Like, you can just tell. Y. You just in the lab working on.
- [78:19]
Draymond Green
You.
- [78:19]
Cam Thomas
You know what I mean? You just working on your art. You know what I'm saying? For real?
- [78:22]
Draymond Green
Yeah. So, yeah, I think James is. James and stuff are like, the two of this. Of our. For us, for our generation, for the young guys is just like the. The 1 and 2. So, you know, credit to those guys for changing the game. But, you know, we. You know, it's our time now for sure, so.
- [78:39]
Baron Davis
Yeah, no, no doubt. And what.
- [78:41]
Cam Thomas
What player surprised you the most? Like, game wise? You like, damn, that. That dude. Come on. I need to. I need to take inventory on him.
- [78:51]
Draymond Green
Well, that's a good question. It'd be. It'd be a lot of people that kill us. And I'm like, hey, I know he was. He was like that. We always have that game. Like, everybody go crazy on us. But probably say, my second year, Brandon Ingram, at the beginning of the year, he was. Yeah, he was. I was like, yeah, he cold. Like, he was pulling up over K. Making it. Just getting to his spots. I was like, yeah, e. Cold for sure.
- [79:21]
Baron Davis
That's tough. It's funny to hear you say that. Like, man, somebody always get off on us. That's not supposed to always. It's because every. Everyone in the league, like, if you play many for minutes, like, you're. You're now doing, like, you are the focal point of a team now. But what you'll realize is. And you may not have found that person yet because this is your. Like, this is the most you've played consistently this year where the ball is like. And it's like your coaches inviting you to be Cam. You know, Like, I think this is the first time your coach.
- [79:58]
Draymond Green
Oh, yeah, totally.
- [79:58]
Baron Davis
Invited you.
- [79:59]
Cam Thomas
You to.
- [80:00]
Baron Davis
All right, so I think you'll probably start to figure it out, but there's always a guy in the league that if you say that person's name, people would never know that that's the guy you struggle with. So, like, for instance, we used to always joke, like, the guy I used to struggle with the most was Taj Gibson. Like, Taj Gibson may be one of the only people that I've ever. In my career. I asked for a switch. Like, I was like, Jermaine O'Neal was.
- [80:28]
Cam Thomas
On my team at times.
- [80:29]
Baron Davis
My second. And I'm like, jo, you gotta guard him, man. I'm gonna go guard Joe Kim Noah. Like, I can't.
- [80:35]
Cam Thomas
He.
- [80:35]
Baron Davis
He giving me fits. Jo. You gotta guard. And at that time, I'm trying to keep my minutes, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm. I'm trying to stay on the floor. So, like, Jo, you gotta go guard him. It was Taj Gibson for me. Every time I play Taj Gibson, he would give me hell for Steph. Ricky Rubio. Every time Steph would play Ricky Rubio, Ricky Rubio would give us hell. Kd. It was actually slow mo. Kyle Anderson used to give KD Fitch when we would play against Kyle Anderson. And. And so to hear you say, like, yo, it's always one guy that, like, out of nowhere, he just cook us, bruh.
- [81:13]
Draymond Green
I'm like, I'm like, in heavy hell, you know? Like, they're like, oh, he's not really gonna shoot much. I'm in heavy help. And then he go, hit three, four threes. I'm like, I mean, what you want me to do?
- [81:21]
Baron Davis
Like you told me Jalen Wilson did to me last night.
- [81:23]
Cam Thomas
Night.
- [81:26]
Baron Davis
Listen, they were like, yo, he could shoot. He could shoot some, but he, you know, like, he more. He came out busting my eye, and he drove, put his shoulders, chest like, yo, what's up, man? Like, I had no idea to do like this, man.
- [81:43]
Cam Thomas
He was at.
- [81:44]
Baron Davis
He was cooking me last night. I had no clue.
- [81:49]
Draymond Green
Big shoulder, big shoulder, man.
- [81:51]
Baron Davis
He hit me with a crazy shoulder and then reversed the call. I'm like, bro, he can't just veer it to me like that, bro. It's crazy. Hey, young fella. Played well, though. Really well.
- [82:01]
Draymond Green
Yeah, for sure, though, you know, Credit to all the young guys.
- [82:03]
Cam Thomas
My dude was. They did.
- [82:05]
Baron Davis
Yes, they did.
- [82:06]
Cam Thomas
Yeah. Some young talent, man. Yeah, I got some hell of a talent. I like the young pieces. My dude was Jose Calderon. I don't know if it's a Spain thing, but I couldn't stand Jose Calderon. For some reason, he always outplayed me when we played, dude. I was like, ah, great player, great point guard. You only have these games against me, dude.
- [82:32]
Baron Davis
Jose got paid off you.
- [82:35]
Cam Thomas
Hey, bro, I'm serious. Serious, bro. Nah, that's.
- [82:40]
Baron Davis
I hate that.
- [82:41]
Cam Thomas
It's like. It's like, dang, dude, I gotta play against this dude.
- [82:44]
Baron Davis
I.
- [82:45]
Cam Thomas
You know, everything they gonna do and they gonna beat you doing it.
- [82:49]
Baron Davis
Facts.
- [82:49]
Cam Thomas
But that's the beauty of the league, though. You know what I mean? It's like, the league is always about matchups, right? And you never know who has your number, you know what I mean?
- [83:01]
Draymond Green
No, totally.
- [83:02]
Cam Thomas
Yeah.
- [83:03]
Draymond Green
That's beauty of the league. And it's never who do you.
- [83:06]
Cam Thomas
Who do you like? Who do you like going up against? Who are the top three people when you see them, you like. Okay, okay. It's about that time. Oh, yeah, it's that time. Come on, man, give me three people. Come on. We gonna set that. We gonna start this. Can't do that right now.
- [83:23]
Draymond Green
I can't do that. It's the whole league. I like playing the whole league.
- [83:27]
Cam Thomas
It's the whole league.
- [83:28]
Draymond Green
Yeah. I like playing it up.
- [83:30]
Baron Davis
Yep.
- [83:31]
Draymond Green
That's how I always felt like, line it up, you know, I don't really. I don't really dug no smoke from no team. Just line it up. I don't care who the team is. I don't come out there to play a girl.
- [83:39]
Cam Thomas
Who do you. Who do you want to know? Hey, I got smoke for y'all. Every time I see y'all, it's up. I got smoke for y'all. Everybody.
- [83:48]
Draymond Green
Everything, bro. I'm telling you. Everything. Everything. I don't. I don't. I don't think no favors is everything. I don't care who it is.
- [83:56]
Baron Davis
I respect it.
- [83:58]
Cam Thomas
Everybody equal.
- [83:59]
Baron Davis
I respect. Guess what? You know why?
- [84:02]
Draymond Green
Because.
- [84:03]
Baron Davis
Ain't funny. That's it. Like, that's it right there. Like, I'm not. That's the same person. I'm not impressed by none. Not one of y'all are going to make me feel like I need to do more against you. Ain't shit funny. That's. That's all in the same. You gotta give people that, bro.
- [84:22]
Cam Thomas
That's. That part.
- [84:23]
Baron Davis
It's the same thing.
- [84:24]
Cam Thomas
That's. That shit funny.
- [84:25]
Baron Davis
I ain't. I don't care about none of y'all. Like, I'm not moved by you. I'm moved by going to get these buckets. Ain't shit funny. Like. Like, you know, like, that's. Ah. You got it, bro.
- [84:36]
Cam Thomas
I'm telling you.
- [84:37]
Baron Davis
You got it. It's right.
- [84:38]
Cam Thomas
That's your thing.
- [84:39]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [84:40]
Cam Thomas
Yeah. That's your mantra, bro. That's your Persona. Like, yeah, the big homie, you know, that's a blessing. You know what I mean? Embrace that. Cause you. You are that. You know what I mean? You are that. Like, ain't nobody laughing when you. When they got a matchup with you. You.
- [84:59]
Baron Davis
It ain't funny.
- [85:00]
Cam Thomas
They got work. They got some work to do. No. You feel me? So take that with you for sure.
- [85:07]
Baron Davis
And just speaking of your team, you know, like I said, I think y'all are having a much better year than anyone anticipated.
- [85:14]
Cam Thomas
Yeah.
- [85:16]
Baron Davis
You know, coming off A couple wins to. To end off a tough west coast road trip. You know, y'all come off of winning against us or winning against Kings, winning against us. Y'all got Phoenix. But, you know, how do you see this season now playing out for y'all? Like, dude, does it feel like the tune of the organization is changing with the success that y'all are having?
- [85:36]
Draymond Green
Yeah, honestly from, you know, preseason, so I think everybody wanted to come out and win games. Obviously, you know, nobody wants to go out there to lose every game. So I think the motto that we had was just be competitive, like, be physical, be connected, you know, wherever that takes us, takes us. But I think we really, as players really bought into our. To the new staff, to what they're teaching us. I think that's really helped us and us really, like, we like playing together, I think. I think we like playing together, and we really want to prove the doubters wrong. So I think we always felt we were, you know, good enough to play, like, how we are now, I think. And I think, honestly, we. We dropped some games that we could have won, so I think our record could be. I think our record could be much better than what it is, honestly. So I think. I think we're just. We're, like, right there. You know, it's always like, just, you know, young team stuff, learning how to finish the game. So I think we just going through that sometimes, and, you know, I think we got a really good year. We just gotta keep sticking with it and have a really good year. Just keep sticking with what we're doing.
- [86:42]
Baron Davis
Yes, sir. And your ankle, like, how you feel about that? Like, will you miss a bunch of time with that, or will it be.
- [86:49]
Draymond Green
Nah, nah, nah, nah. I shouldn't. It's not even my ankle. It's. I think it was like, just my left handy tightness. There's nothing wrong with it. Just didn't feel right. Finishing probably could have made it worse if I kept playing against y'all. So I was just like, you know, I'm just. Let the young guys play, finish it up, and then, you know, credit to them that y'all everybody stepped up making. Making shots, playing hard. So, you know, you're gonna need a lot of people to step up, you know, when I'm out. So definitely.
- [87:15]
Baron Davis
Courtney is y'all trainer, right? Right?
- [87:17]
Draymond Green
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [87:19]
Baron Davis
Let's live in that training room, bro. Get back out on that course so.
- [87:21]
Draymond Green
You can, you know, you can be.
- [87:24]
Baron Davis
An all star this year. What. By the way, what do you feel about the Case you're making to be an All Star this year in the east, especially where Damian Lillard hasn't had as great of a year, the Philadelphia 76ers having a down year. You know, you got a lot of guys that ain't. That's been All Stars. That ain't necessarily playing as good as your plan. What's, you know, what's your case and how you looking at that? That.
- [87:45]
Draymond Green
Yeah, I'm definitely, definitely looking to, you know, have my name in that convo, for sure. I think I'm making a great case, especially for how our team was projected to be a start the year they was pregnant us to be the worst team in the league. And then, you know, we're coming back surprising people, and then my play, you know, speaks for itself. So I think I'm definitely making a great case early on. I mean, still early, but I definitely want to keep it up and hopefully, you know, have my name be All Star this year for sure.
- [88:12]
Cam Thomas
Let's go, man. You got to say, you got the city. You're one of the best cities, basketball cities, you know, in the world. Talk about just, you know, as we wrap up, just, what, New York. You know what I mean? And being in New York, you said it's like a second home. How they embraced you. Just talk about that energy and, like, how basketball is just so exciting. Like, every day you wake.
- [88:35]
Draymond Green
Yeah, bro. Just New York. Even, like, my rookie year when I first got drafted, everybody. Everybody loved me. Like, even, you know, social media, all the fans, they love to pick. And then, you know, every time I got in, whether it was at the end of the game or, you know, get surprised, throwing me in, like, second. Second or third quarter, and I go out there, hit. Hit a crazy shower or go start cooking. Then, you know, the whole crowd in the arena go crazy. So I just feel like that's really, like. Like I said, my second home, like, they love Cam Thomas. So, like, so every time I'm at home, I try to put on the show for them, like, the best way I can, so. Because you never know, you know, you know, you never know, you know, somebody new might come. Never saw you play before, and you want to put on a great show because, you know, I just love to put on the show for the Brooklyn crowd, for sure. So I just really love it.
- [89:23]
Baron Davis
I just processed. You told me before the show started, you said, oh, yeah, we play Phoenix, Knicks, and then we. We flying after the game.
- [89:31]
Cam Thomas
And I.
- [89:31]
Baron Davis
In my mind, I'm like, y'all flying on the Red eye. That's crazy. Like, the red. I messed you up for a couple days, but it just dawned on me that y'all are flying on the red eye because it's Thanksgiving.
- [89:43]
Draymond Green
Yeah, it is. Thank you. I swear, the leak. The leak make you forget the day. Yeah.
- [89:51]
Cam Thomas
Yeah. I was gonna ask y'all that, like, you know, holidays was always the worst all. You know what I mean?
- [89:58]
Baron Davis
Awful. Aw.
- [90:00]
Cam Thomas
Sometimes you make it home, sometimes you don't. Man. Both of y'all tell. Tell the people who are going to be at home eating these delicious ass turkeys. Stuffing. This is me, yams, you know, Mac and cheese. Y'all can't eat none of that. And y'all probably not gonna be around. You know, usually it's like, oh, Thanksgiving, I'm home. Christmas, I'm away. Talk about just that, both of y'all. Just how tough it is being away from family and traveling during the holidays at this time. Playing games. Yeah.
- [90:35]
Draymond Green
Just for me, personally, I always spent holidays with my fam. So my first few years in the league, I haven't even. Now I haven't spent Christmas home once with my mom or something. I never spent Christmas home once. So how. We always left out or left out or had to stay somewhere because, you know you got another game. So it's always. It's always tough with that. But, you know, it is what it is. It's part of the league. And Thanksgiving, this is probably my first Thanksgiving where I actually have a chance to be home on an off day. So, yes, that was definitely dope, for sure. It's definitely tough, though.
- [91:08]
Cam Thomas
Draymond, that's great. Draymond Green gets no Christmas.
- [91:11]
Draymond Green
Yeah. I'm about to say he don't count for Christmas.
- [91:13]
Cam Thomas
10 years. Do you even know what Christmas is? You on the biggest stage.
- [91:18]
Baron Davis
I really. I really, really, really appreciate Thanksgiving because we don't get a Christmas. Last year, I got a Christmas for the first time because I was suspended. That was about the only silver lining of being suspended is I was actually, like, not. Not. Not even. Not even just Christmas Day. But I was home for the holiday weeks. Like, I was home for Thanksgiving. Then I was home for the week leading into Christmas with all the Christmas carols with my kids. And then I was home for New Year's. I was with my family for all the holiday weeks. So shout out to all them idiots that said I was a crash out. I'm smarter than you. I got to spend a holiday with my.
- [92:04]
Draymond Green
Look at it for sure.
- [92:08]
Cam Thomas
The silver lining. We always look out the positive Out.
- [92:14]
Baron Davis
So that's what. What's your go to Thanksgiving dinner before we get out of here? What you gotta have on Thanksgiving?
- [92:21]
Draymond Green
Mac and cheese. It's mandatory. That's mandatory for sure. Gotta have. You don't got Mac and cheese there. You don't know what you're doing.
- [92:30]
Baron Davis
Who cooking the meal?
- [92:32]
Draymond Green
Growing up, it was always my grandma, so she always cooked. Always cook. Recently. Recently, he's been my mom, dog. But you know if I'm home or not, so. Yeah, but really, my grandma should really be cooking. Cooking up for stuff.
- [92:46]
Baron Davis
Is mom gonna meet you in Brooklyn since you're gonna be home? Yeah.
- [92:49]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [92:50]
Baron Davis
Let's go.
- [92:51]
Draymond Green
You're gonna be there.
- [92:52]
Baron Davis
Let's go.
- [92:53]
Draymond Green
You're gonna be there.
- [92:56]
Cam Thomas
Let's go.
- [92:56]
Baron Davis
That's fire.
- [92:57]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [92:58]
Baron Davis
No, I don't. B.D. you got something else?
- [93:03]
Cam Thomas
I just wanna make some Draymond greens. I wish that I could go to the store and going to Ralph's or Kroger's and get some frozen Draymond greens. I've been done. Why don't we have Draymond greens? This would be the best thing for Thanksgiving. Next Thanksgiving, dog, we gotta have Draymond green.
- [93:26]
Baron Davis
I'm looking into that. I'm looking into that. Killer Cam, we appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on the show. It is great to talk to you, to hear you speak to. And I won't say the disrespectful thing that most people say is, like, you speak well, like, did you think I was dumb? Like, I'm not going to say. I'm just happy to hear you speak and that you got a personality. And we thank you for coming on the show. And before BD Say something or before you say something, I just want to say again, give it to him, brother. They would love it.
- [94:04]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [94:04]
Baron Davis
The way you score the ball is special.
- [94:08]
Cam Thomas
Yeah.
- [94:09]
Baron Davis
Give them the next thing. Don't fall into them. Do not fall into the trap. It's just about buckets. The Brooklyn that's gonna pay you a lot of money to be that franchise guy. They gotta be able to do more with it. You know what I'm saying? So just know that. Give it to him, bro. Ain't funny if ain't funny. Figure it out.
- [94:28]
Draymond Green
Gotcha. Yep.
- [94:30]
Cam Thomas
That's all I gotta say. Ain't funny, baby. That's the Persona, you know what I mean? Appreciate having you.
- [94:37]
Draymond Green
No, man, I appreciate y'all for having me on, man.
- [94:39]
Cam Thomas
I need. I need my two things, man. I'm still not let you get away with that pocket Pack, I'll be hitting you, too, bro. I'll be DMing you like, yo with the rebounds with them.
- [94:50]
Draymond Green
I got you.
- [94:50]
Cam Thomas
Tell them, Dre.
- [94:51]
Baron Davis
I'll be.
- [94:51]
Cam Thomas
I'll be. Be tapped in. I'll be tapped in.
- [94:54]
Draymond Green
Respect, but no. I appreciate y'all for having me, though, man. I appreciate it.
- [94:57]
Baron Davis
Yes, sir. Bro, good luck the rest of this year. Get healthy. And know that if you supposed. Now, understand what I'm saying here. I ain't saying rush back before you healthy.
- [95:08]
Cam Thomas
Yeah, yeah.
- [95:09]
Baron Davis
But know that in order to be the top dog, if. If you can be back in four, then work your ass off and do everything to prove to them that, no, I was ready in three because I did everything. You know what I'm saying? Get back. Do everything you got to do to get back, because that's going to determine if you can become an all star or not, and you deserve that one.
- [95:30]
Draymond Green
Appreciate y'all, man. Appreciate that, sir.
- [95:33]
Baron Davis
Much love, bro.
- [95:34]
Draymond Green
Much love, man.
- [95:37]
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- [96:37]
Baron Davis
I really enjoyed that.
- [96:38]
Cam Thomas
That was some. That was some good ass ism you gave them, too. Appreciate it. You know what I mean? Let's go. You know what I mean? Like, when you think about it, like, coming from you, you know, a hall of famer motherfucker done done it. A young mother like Shaq did that to me. You know what I mean? What you just did for him. Shaq used to do that to me for me all the time. Like, hey, n. You one of them ones. You gotta. You know what I mean? Just keep standing out. That was dope. I was glad I got a witness. That be a part of that?
- [97:08]
Baron Davis
Nah. Yeah, man, that was super dope chopping it up with the young fella, man. He definitely got it. But. But before we get out of here, BD talk to me. Five. You got. You got five on it today. Who your five today?
- [97:22]
Cam Thomas
I got five. I got five on it. First and foremost, LaMelo ball 50. A 44 piece. I think he lost both games, but.
- [97:37]
Baron Davis
That'S they team trash.
- [97:39]
Cam Thomas
Number numero numero uno. Lamelo ball number two. Gotta rock with De'Aaron Fox. I've been just, man, just in love with his game. You know, how he just how he play and how he finished games for them is just. I mean, De'Aaron Fox and he one of my son's favorite players. Coming in at number three, Jalen Williams.
- [98:10]
Baron Davis
Ah, from okc.
- [98:14]
Cam Thomas
From okc.
- [98:14]
Baron Davis
Yes, sir.
- [98:15]
Cam Thomas
Because I just think that the dude is the point guard on their team. Right. We know Shay is dynamic, superstar, combo guard, scoring guard. But I like to give him some credit because really, he's like the glue.
- [98:34]
Baron Davis
Yeah.
- [98:35]
Cam Thomas
And I want to see him playing more point guard for that team because he's a great playmaker.
- [98:39]
Baron Davis
He's also the attitude for that team.
- [98:42]
Cam Thomas
He has the great attitude for that team.
- [98:44]
Baron Davis
He's the attitude.
- [98:46]
Cam Thomas
He has an amazing. He has an amazing attitude for that team, for sure. All right, where we at? We at number four. Number four. I am going with Drew Holiday.
- [99:05]
Baron Davis
Brewing. Love.
- [99:09]
Cam Thomas
Gotta have a brewing in there. But most importantly, when I watch this dude play, you know what I mean? He just, he just. He just. That's my get down. Drew Holiday is my get down. I'm gonna lock you up. I'll make shots on you. I'm gonna post you up. I'm gonna take you to the hall. He's just like, he's just, he's just. He's the fix. You feel what I'm saying? Like he's a fixer.
- [99:39]
Baron Davis
Absolutely.
- [99:40]
Cam Thomas
Like he's a point guard fixer. So that's, that's four. And then I wanna. Since we didn't do it last week, five. I gotta go with Chris Paul. Chris Paul going into. What is it, passing 12,000 assists all time in his career. Come on, man. CP3 basketball. God. You know, we gotta celebrate these dudes while they still hooping, you know, to see him do it and to do it at a high level. You know, I want to salute Chris Paul because he definitely, definitely, definitely deserves worth to be in the top five. Honorable mention Dame Lillard, you know, I'm starting to apologize to. To the Bucks and Doc Rivers. Get your mind right, Doc. Get them right, Doc. Come on. Halliburton came back for me, you know, Trey Young. The normal. Just the normal.
- [100:30]
Baron Davis
Yes, sir. I respect it. Now, definitely. Shout out to CP man. 12,000 assists. That's a lot of dimes, man. You made a lot of people better. Made a lot of people a lot of money dropping them down.
- [100:44]
Cam Thomas
So shout out to c. Come on, CP3, Cliff Paul.
- [100:49]
Baron Davis
All right now, Cliff.
- [100:51]
Cam Thomas
Hey, man.
- [100:52]
Baron Davis
That's it. Got five on it with bd. Shout out to us, the Draymond Green Show. We're Baron Davis. And shout out to you for tuning in and listening to us get our shitted off. We appreciate you. We love you. Until next time. That's a wrap.
- [101:08]
Cam Thomas
Peace, Peace. The Volume.
- [101:17]
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