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The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Best Of February: Luka To The Lakers, Jimmy Butler Joins Warriors, Jokic + Westbrook A Perfect Match
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Inner Child
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Steph Curry
And a new adventure.
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Draymond Green
Or maybe five with the bestest besties on earth.
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Inner Child
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Podcast Host
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of their era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Peja Stojaković
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Podcast Host
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
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Peja Stojaković
That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. That's why we love it.
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Podcast Host
Listen to Go G O T e Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Draymond Green
Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd.
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Steph Curry
I love writing more than anything. You're left alone. You know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon. Go pick up a kid from school and right at night and after nine hours you come out with seven pages and then you're, you're moving on.
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Draymond Green
Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume. How you feeling though?
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Steph Curry
I feel great, brother. You know, it's been a while since I've gone into basketball games, like with that feeling of like, oh yeah, we gonna go just win. And it's been two games even. Nobody's getting ahead of themselves. But I can only tell you how these two games were felt now.
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Draymond Green
Let them know.
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Steph Curry
That's just how it feel great, bro. Like, you know, and stuff gonna get harder. We gonna have to figure stuff out, you know. But I know when it's right.
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Draymond Green
I could see it. I could see it. I could feel it. In the Bucks game, you got up for the big time block against Gary Trent Jr. You know they talking about defensive player of the year. Conversations is back up. Steph got to Stephan got to chefing. Jimmy Butler got to serving Willie McDilling post game. Steph. Steph said Jimmy Butler's impact on him every possession doesn't feel as hard. What is the biggest takeaway from these two games since Jimmy has joined the team?
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Steph Curry
That's a fact, bro. That's on everybody, though, bro. Like, that's. That's on everybody offensively and defensively. Like, he draw. It's crazy because in a weird way, he draws so much attention.
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Draymond Green
Yeah.
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Steph Curry
But obviously I've played with Steph for 13 years, so drawing attention to me looks a certain way. You know, with Clay for 12 years, drawing attention and obviously with KD for three years. But Jimmy draw attention differently than any other one. But draw a lot of attention. And it's crazy because Jimmy, it's interesting, man. Again, playing with Steph, one of the most incredible things that Steph does is play without the ball. Jimmy has that same thing. When Steph said, yo, we have, like, opposite games. Like, it's on so many different levels. Like, when Step is running around, like, to find an opener to get the ball, Jimmy is, like, just working on the backside, like, nudging it. Yeah. Like, it's crazy. They break the defense down the same way, but different. Like, hey, man. And so, yeah, I understand what Steph is saying. I agree with what Steph is saying. Like, Steph just look more free. But I'm going to tell you, yeah, he look. He got. He looked like he got belief. That's all. Like, that's. That's all it is.
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Draymond Green
Like, he energized Steph.
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Steph Curry
He looked like he got believe. He. He said to me in Utah after the trade, he looked at me and he said, man, it's crazy because it just dawned on me that, like, this is it.
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Draymond Green
This is the last ride.
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Steph Curry
Last ride, like. And I said, yep, let's do it.
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Draymond Green
Let's. Yeah, let's ride. To the wheels fall off guns blaze.
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Steph Curry
It was an emotional moment. But, yeah, like, Jimmy, man, it's crazy, brother. Wait. It's crazy because people draw. As you know, in this league, people has learned how to draw bullshit files. This dude Jimmy, he really, like, he really make people foul him. Like, they are actually real fouls. And he just got a knot for it, man. It's brought this. This balance of, like, we can really slow our offense down because you got somebody that's like. Like Steph said, Steph dominates from the perimeter. Like, we all in the world knows that you got somebody now that's dominating inside the three point line, which naturally slows the offense down. Which I think we needed to slow the offense down some anyway because we don't have the same talent and IQs that Andre Sean Livingston, David West.
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Draymond Green
It's not the same weapons.
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Steph Curry
And so it's a little different. And allow. And Jimmy allows us to slow down. So one will you go run? Great. But if not, it's cool to slow down. And man, and then defensively it's incredible. Jimmy, Jimmy we. Jimmy already earned his name. Megatron. Jimmy told us. He came to me before the first game in Chicago. He said, hey man, throw me the ball high. He said, you throw me the ball high. I may not finish it, but I'm gonna get it and bring it down. He said, but nobody else gonna get it if you just throw the ball high, bro. So I just throw the ball up. He gonna grab every one of them for sure.
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Draymond Green
That's his play. That's his play. Yeah.
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Steph Curry
And man, he, he literally, he made good. He's just throw it up. I will go get it. Man. It's been so fun competing with Jimmy. And I must tell you, bd, he been kicking my ass. And Domino's, bro, for real, he been kicking my ass.
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Draymond Green
He trash.
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Steph Curry
That's not true. That's not. It's a very competitive game.
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Draymond Green
How's it been?
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Steph Curry
Very competitive games. But then he, he, he, he got a little luck on this side too. Like he, we. I'm up 20 points. He pulled five fives. Like. Oh yeah. Like he got a little luck on this side too. But he, he, he been. I gotta give him his credit.
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Draymond Green
Okay, okay, Jimmy. Okay. You know, I don't really be speaking on Jimmy. I tried not to speak on him in situation, but now that he with the doves, I can tell you what my observation is. And it hit me before he got to the, like before he played his first game. Cause you sitting there, you like, damn, how is this going to work? And then they were showing highlights and then they showed a couple games that he played in the finals. And I realized something. Jimmy Butler is the superstar that's always open. He's always, always open, right? He's always open.
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Steph Curry
Yep.
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Draymond Green
Also, he always has a, he never gets double T. He's always in the scoring position. He's always one or two dribbles away. And all the little, little bullshit shenanigans that come with defense, deflections, steals, turning like that's Jimmy's magic. You feel what I'm saying that's his magic. And then when you take that to what the warriors haven't had free throws.
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Steph Curry
Absolutely.
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Draymond Green
Y'all never went to the free throw line, bro. Y'all. Y'all was winning championships not going to the free throw line, which was, like, crazy. Now you add free throws. This dude gets fouled all the time. And they really be fouling. Really be, right? He a bully, right? Not just on offense, but also on defense, right? He's an incredible help defender. And on top of that, he got a new life. And so him being a villain, right? With Draymond, who's already a villain, who was just waiting for another villain to come into the room to wake up, and Steph, who's a super villain, and people don't understand that Steph is in his best mode when the odds are stacked against Steph. And so now you got this kind of this villain mentality, this hungry mentality, and nobody's gonna punk you guys. Nobody's gonna IQ out, IQ you. And you can't just chase Steph around because Jimmy gets twos. He gets twos and ones. Put backs, right? He don't need the ball for a long amount of time to go get 30, you know, 30, 40, man. I'm watching this. I'm like, oh, my God. Hey, when y'all. What was it? What was it? The Bulls game? Steph went crazy, right? Just him catching fire like that, right?
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Steph Curry
Yeah.
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Draymond Green
But then you got Jimmy on the back end getting tools. K, man. One skin. Put backs. I'm excited. He bring a lot. He bring a lot. That. All the intangible. All the intangible. All that shit is what people don't value, but what makes superstar, superstar.
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Steph Curry
Shout out to Mike Dunleavy, man. Cause I'm so happy Jimmy didn't end up in Phoenix. Oh, my God, that would have been awful. And what Jimmy has brought here, when you talk about, like, two bullies, it's crazy because he just. He's brought that sense of Back of, oh, we. We can win. And everybody feel that. And so the bar has been raised, and we know what that bar need to be raised to. Like, we know what it is. And so the bar has been raised. So much so that you talk about Steph these last four games, we all feel that and excited. I got a warning, apparently, from the league the other day that the last few games, I've been playing too aggressive and that they're warning me.
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Draymond Green
What?
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Steph Curry
What does that mean? I don't know.
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Draymond Green
What does that mean? I don't see nothing wrong.
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Steph Curry
Exactly. But apparently me being in go in mode is a, is a problem. So another thing we've never seen in, in a long time, we haven't seen it. Steph went out the game. It was a two point lead or four point lead. When he checks back into the game, it was 17. Yeah, he checked back into the game like seven to eight minutes to go on the four.
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Draymond Green
Yep.
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Steph Curry
The league 17. That's the impact of Jimmy.
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Draymond Green
That's the relief.
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Steph Curry
Yeah.
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Draymond Green
Steph get to really look at the game. Right. Steph Curry has had the biggest responsibility of having to make end game decisions and change his pattern. Right. I would say this year has been, you know, trying because all eyes on Steph. If Steph don't Steph then nobody else is really open or if people are not open, then Steph don't get the shots. And so you see him making a lot of in game adjustments. And you brought this to my attention. How people prepare game plans for Steph. And so that's, you know, to switch your style up in the middle of the game to be effective. Right. A lot of great, like only the greats can do it. But it's hard to have that relief to be able to sit on the bench and say, oh, okay, now I know when I get in all I gotta do is a little bit more mid range to the whole, like seeing Steph play not just three point basketball, but mid range, getting to the whole rebounding. He playing, he playing like he playing in his Jordan era. Yeah, right. These last few games he been in his Jordan era where it's like I want to play winning basketball and I can see that. I can feel, I can feel that.
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Steph Curry
Watching you guys 100%, everybody on the same type of time falling in line. I told the guys after the Laker game, I said, yo, listen, that second half don't do moral victories around here. But this is about to look different now with Jimmy coming in here. I told the guys, I said this about, about to look different. Him and Steph. Jimmy's locker was right here. Jimmy wasn't there, but then Steph was right here. I was like, so listen, this is what we on. We gonna follow these two guys. I promise you, if we follow these two guys, we gonna get there. Promise.
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Draymond Green
Yep.
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Steph Curry
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Steph Curry
Tune in each week. Check the link in the bio for where to watch Vice tv. Before we get more into this episode, I want to let y'all know what else we'll be talking about. More insight on playing with my new Golden State Warrior teammate, Jimmy Butler iii. And I put quotation marks and an emphasis on the third. Jimmy first game with us was the one year anniversary of the passing of his father, which in Chicago where he started his career, had that game that he has. So putting emphasis on third, saying goodbye to Wigs. Y. You know, winning a championship with Wigs. I think Wigs has been here for six years. Yeah, six years, man. And you know, to see him go all that always sucks. That is the business. DS Kyle Lindy, those guys. Yeah, there's been a lot going on around the league. Also Luka's first game with the Lakers, so make sure you hit that subscribe button so you don't miss any of the episodes.
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Draymond Green
That's right. Follow the show on all social media platforms at Draymond show so you don't miss any of these. I mean, huge announcements, right. Steve Curry talked about Jimmy's passing and how he was hitting you with some nice passes in the Bucks game. Are you surprised with that part of his game?
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Steph Curry
You know what? I'm not surprised because Jimmy's a guy who, you know, all his career has gotten triple doubles, has always been a willing passer, can always pass the hell out of the ball. And so I'm not surprised at all. And I'm telling you, another thing that Jimmy does is teams going in that zone. Jimmy go to the middle of the zone.
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Draymond Green
Now he go right in the middle of the zone. Sit right there.
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Steph Curry
He hit me with some back door passes, working the dunker. He hitting gosh for threes. But most importantly, he turned around and.
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Draymond Green
Shoot the little mini fade away.
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Steph Curry
Right. And so you every option with J.
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Draymond Green
That was my role. Yeah, that was my Role with Nelly in the zone. Get. Get in the middle of the zone. Right by the right underneath the elbow. They can't do nothing about it. You one dribble away from Malaya. Fade away dunk. Ghost person outlet. Yeah, I like the la. His basketball IQ is like, y'all just automatically sing.
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Steph Curry
Yeah, his basketball IQ is Tom Tigger. I've been learning from him these just these past few days and couple games playing like, you just hear different things. He say, he's so locked in, bro. Like, he locked, locked in. And he's smart. So I'm. I'm happy to have the opportunity to learn from a guy like Jimmy, but I'm not surprised at all by the passing. I know he a great pastor, but I tell you what I did. He came to the sideline yesterday and he had passed up a shot and he was like, I should have shot that. I said, brother, let me tell you something. This team don't need your passing at all. What this team is you to score. Like, we need you to go score 25 and 30 points. You're a great pastor like Steph, so you're naturally going to see the path when it's there. But we need you to think, shoot first, score first 25, 30 points. Like, that's what we need you to be. He was like, all right. He went back out there, foul, get fouled, bucket and one. That's what we need, bro. We need you to be the hype.
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Draymond Green
Yeah, you need Miami Jimmy and shout out to the Heat for that type of basketball. And the way he played that basketball fits directly into what you guys need because he can, he can be the playmaker. But him being aggressive on the offensive end is all one on one matchups. Yeah, he get more one on one matchups than any dude I know any superstar I know in the league, Right? And his is always 15ft away from the basket, catch two dribbles, getting the paint. You know, he's. He is tough to guard one on one when he is below the free throw line.
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Steph Curry
Something I want to throw out there about Jimmy also. And just what you just said about Miami Heat Jimmy, the dopest thing about that to me is we actually do need Miami Heat Jimmy. And I think every day he's figuring that out more and more, which is fire. Because we, we here at this place, we encourage you. Be exactly who you are, bro. Like, don't dare and try to like, oh, like, be exactly who you are. And I think he's figuring that out each day. Everybody like, no, just go like, nope, just go. And he's figuring that out more and more. But I'm gonna tell you the dopest thing about that whole dynamic. Like, he is about to be here and be the Miami Heat. Jimmy for sure. I'm gonna tell you the dopest thing about that, Tamia. The lack of insecurity of Steph Curry.
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Draymond Green
Right?
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Steph Curry
Just like, oh, yeah, come on, bro.
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Draymond Green
Like, yeah, Steph on a party, open arms.
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Steph Curry
So many people will lack the self confidence in themselves. Be in that position that Steph Curry in and have another alpha, like number one option, like, Jimmy, come in and be like, oh yeah, bro, go do your thing. Like it's cool. Like, that is the power of Steph Curry, man.
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Draymond Green
I look at it like this. Steph is the dj. He won a party, right? Now you got Draymond, Draymond security making sure nobody mess with the DJ and nobody get out of line. Now you got Jimmy and then Steph play the music. Jimmy can dance to any rhythm or song.
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Steph Curry
Absolutely.
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Draymond Green
So now you got, you got the party promoter, you got your security and you got your DJ and like, man, and, and you know that, that mechanism of, of Steph wanting to party, meaning, you know, he, he encourages success.
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Steph Curry
Yes.
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Draymond Green
Right. He encourages happiness. He needs that. He needs everyone else to do their job and someone else to do other extra work to take some pressure off of him.
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Steph Curry
1,000%. And it's fire, bro. I love it.
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Draymond Green
I'll fight for you, bro.
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Podcast Host
Make some noise for the Greatest Shooter of All time, Steph Curry.
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Steph Curry
We went.
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Podcast Host
Live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Peja Stojaković
Peja 5 Dirk Ford Peja is a leak.
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Draymond Green
Okay, I'm mad him. I left him off my list, but I still like my list.
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Podcast Host
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
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Peja Stojaković
That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations.
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Podcast Host
Yes, absolutely.
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Peja Stojaković
Love it.
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Podcast Host
Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.
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Peja Stojaković
When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with it. Anytime you're wide open, you might as well just count that and get on back on defense.
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Podcast Host
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Steph Curry
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Steph Curry
Let's move around this league. Ah, man. Start with what everybody been talking about. And I mean everybody reacting to the Luca trade. Luca and Ad trade. I saw a meme, by the way, that is such a shocking trade. I saw a meme that said everybody's so shocked that Luca got traded there. We acting like Anthony Davis is Hasan Whiteside, and that couldn't be more accurate. No disrespect to Hasan, because I think, you know, for Hasan to go from a second round pick to, you know, if I'm not mistaken, I think he was an all star. If not, he got really close, but I think he was a one time all star. But signing a hundred million dollar contract, second round pick out the league, G league, whole thing, work his way back and do that. A lot of respect for Hasan and what he did in this league. So no disrespect to him, but I thought that meme was hilarious because everyone act like they didn't get Anthony Davis back. Like, right. You know, and everybody like, oh, they got. They should have got so many picks, bro. They got. They. Yeah, they got Anthony Davis at 31.
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Draymond Green
Yeah, you. You got AD. He damn near in every category. Like, he top five right now in every category.
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Steph Curry
And. And no disrespect to Luka, but Anthony Davis is a top 75 player in NBA history. Luka's not that yet. Now he has the potential to be that. And he will be 100 by the time, you know, top 100 by the time the next one come out. But Anthony Davis is a perennial offset. He's that guy, a top 75. And everyone acting like he's nobody, but nonetheless, I think it was very shocking. I personally was at the warriors poker charity night when the trade went down, and I'm Steph's two tables behind me, and Steph go, Draymond. You see this? I'm like, you know, I had heard of a. I had heard like the warriors were looking at making some trades and all of that. So he goes, you see this? And I'm like, see what? He liked to trade? I said, they did it. I'm thinking he talking about something that just came up with us. He like Luca and A.D. i said, huh?
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Draymond Green
What?
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Steph Curry
I walk around this table. He showed me the phone. I'm like, the question everyone had, is this real? I look closer like it's from Sean's it's real.
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Draymond Green
It's real.
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Steph Curry
It comes from Shams. You could bet your bottom dollar it's real, man. I was at a loss. I'm still at a loss for words.
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Draymond Green
I'm still like, AI generated or like for real. It still hasn't hit. I think now it's starting to hit. Everybody saying they farewells. But when you heard about the trade, why do you think the Mavericks would do a trade like this?
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Steph Curry
I think a couple reasons. Number one, where were you? I feel like this is one of those things that you. It's such a big deal that you will always remember where you were when it happened. Where were you when. When this trade went down?
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Draymond Green
I felt like I was at. I was chilling with my girl and she showed me, that's crazy. I call and I call bullshit. I was like, man, that's some bullshit. And then I looked and I was like, oh, Shums, Shams, it's over.
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Steph Curry
It's real. It's real. So when I look at this trade, I think it happens for a couple of reasons. Number one, as great as Luka Doncic is, he was not drafted by the general manager of the Dallas Mavericks, the current general manager.
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Draymond Green
That's true.
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Steph Curry
And so as great as he is, general managers have in their mind how they see fit for a team that they construct and how they want it to work, how they see it working, how they see themselves getting to and winning a championship. Now, the first thing people will say is, Baluca just went to the finals last year. So they close. And I'll say, I agree, Luka did go to the finals last year. But what I'll also say is sometimes making it that far to the Western Conference finals, sometimes that can be a little fool's goal. Look at the Atlanta Hawks. Was it three years ago? Three, four years ago, going to the Eastern Conference finals. Barely has sniffed the playoff since. Sometimes it can be a little fool's gold when you make it that far. Now, I don't think Dallas was fool's gold. I think they made great trades mid year, last year, acquired PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, who helped boost their lineup and put them in contention to compete for a championship. And they got there, they got close, weren't quite able to close it. So now when you look at that as that general manager, you're going back to the drawing board and you're saying, what do we need to do in order to get over the hump? Quite honestly, I don't think anyone in the world would think the thing to do Is trade Luka Doncic. I don't think anyone does that. But when I saw the trade, my first thought was, Dallas must know something that we don't know.
- [32:00]
Draymond Green
That's.
- [32:01]
Steph Curry
Man, I've been saying that they must know something. They must have some intel or something. You know, Lucas been dealing with a calf. Right. Like, I'm. Like, they must have some intel or something that we don't quite know. So that's one of my first thoughts. Yeah. Second thought is naturally, like, superstar players don't get traded in their prime. At 25 in the middle of the season, I'm not even sure if he's considered in his prime yet. Right. But at 25 and you're right at the trade deadline, like, big trades like that.
- [32:42]
Draymond Green
That's crazy.
- [32:43]
Steph Curry
Don't normally happen at the trade deadline. And so when I look at it, I'd say Nico Harrison, who's the general manager of the Dallas Marist, for those that don't know, has. Like, when I look at the makeup of his team, he go gets a Kyrie Irving that everybody's afraid of. Everybody think Kyrie's off his rocker. Everybody think he won't be able to be talked to. However, due to being the guy at Nike for so many years, Nico already had a relationship with Kyrie, and he thought to himself, I can deal with Kyrie, so I'm gonna go get Kyrie. And guess what? It's been stellar. Kyrie's been stellar. He been locked in. So Operation Successful. So there's that. You didn't give up a ton to get them, right? Like, so Operation Successful.
- [33:44]
Draymond Green
Super.
- [33:45]
Steph Curry
So now when I look at that and then I take a step back and look at this trade, my first thought is, or second thought, here's a guy who you see the Lakers say, ah, they're worried a little bit about AD's durability. They don't think he's a 1A guy. Yeah. X, Y and Z. But then you got Nico Harrison, who's like, yeah, y'all may not think he's a 1A guy, but what I know for sure is he's a 1A talent.
- [34:14]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [34:14]
Steph Curry
And so with my relationship with J kid's relationship, because he played, you know, JK was on the coaching staff when they won a championship in 2020. Nuts. Jared Dully's relationship with AD, I think we can get AD to play at that 1A level, consistent, consistently. And I think that's the bet that they're making. But more importantly, the bet that they're making is if this ship is going to go down, if I'm going to go down, if I'm Nico Harrison, what I see is him saying, I'm going to go down with someone I trust, not necessarily someone that the GM before me trusts. And yes, Luka's a superstar. Yes, Luka's great, but Luka was never Nico's guy.
- [34:56]
Draymond Green
Nico's. Yeah, that's true.
- [34:57]
Steph Curry
And now Nico is bringing in his guy and saying, I'm a swing for the fences and if I fail, I fail. But I failed doing it my way. And you gotta respect someone who's willing to take that stance.
- [35:08]
Draymond Green
I mean, I agree, dude, he is doing it the way he want to do it, right? Something about the Luka thing, even though they went to the finals, I think for him it was. There needs to be a final piece, right? I think they also experienced like, hey, you know, Dallas got, Dallas got cracking. Dallas got hot in the playoffs, Luka got hot in the playoffs. But it was really the team that plays so well, right, that allowed Luca to beat Luka in Luka moments. And then also when Luka was dialed into, you know, the success of the team, right, trying to play defense, trying to do the different things on the defensive end, that's when they won. Those are the games that they won. And you get to the finals and you look and you say, hey, man, my superstar is being put on an island by this entire roster. We are vulnerable. If he does not defend right, if he does not take up on this leadership responsibility in the finals, we don't have a chance. And I think Nico saw that. And when you see somebody like A.D. you looking at, if I had A.D. in that game with the squad we had, with the way we play, we got a better chance of winning that series on the defensive end with somebody like AD and then stacking the deck. Now you're the biggest team in the West. You got the most size, you athletic in the front court. You know, it unlocks Kyrie to go be Kyrie again, right? You got Clay over there. That can be a great compliment to Kyrie. So I think the 80, the 80 for Dallas is their upgrade now. Yes, we need to go now. Everything. We putting all our chips on the table, we need to go now. This 25 year old kid. Kid, right? We don't know if this is. If we built this team for him. This team is not necessarily constructed and built for Luca, right? And for the future of Luca. So you would have had to continue to make iterations and keep moving pieces to figure Out. Okay, is this the right fit? Cause you got. Not that you got lucky last year. You earned and deserved everything, but there was some teams that were tired, teams that were hurt. Right? And this year is way different. You see the fatigue, right? You see the coming back from the Olympics, you gotta know something. It's too much wear and tear. Where is he gonna be at 30 versus AD at 35? Like, who's gonna have, you know, over the next three or four years, who's going to have that window of longevity and we gonna see where these dudes kind of measure out.
- [38:25]
Steph Curry
Yep. That's a fact. And I think when you even look at Nico's press conference and stuff, the one thing I respect the most is he's standing on it. He gave his reasonable.
- [38:36]
Draymond Green
No, he's standing on it.
- [38:37]
Steph Curry
And he said, listen, what I thought was a very, very bold statement. And like I said, I respect it. He said, listen, we will see if I was right or wrong. Pretty much saying, I know that this move is either gonna get me, make me a long tenure GM or it's gonna get me fired and we'll see if I'm right or wrong. And I respect that. I will say, listen, anybody that make a move like that and they stand on it, that Woo.
- [39:12]
Draymond Green
Hey, dude, Jason Kidd was not.
- [39:15]
Steph Curry
He was in the meeting.
- [39:16]
Draymond Green
Like, I ain't going, hey, dude, Jason Kidd. I'd never seen Jason Kidd like that.
- [39:26]
Steph Curry
Jake, he was like, JK look like he actually saw a ghost.
- [39:32]
Draymond Green
He looked like, man, I gotta be here, I gotta be here. I ain't got nothing to say. He was in shock. That, that is the face of a coach in shock. What do you think somebody, what do you think is going on in J. Kidmon just based off that press conference? You know, what is he thinking? What does he contemplate?
- [39:54]
Steph Curry
What he's thinking is he has to change his entire offense. That a guy you could just give the ball to and let him go figure it out is gone. I think he's trying to sit there, he's sitting there trying to process what it is like that's in front of him, what it is that just happened. I think J. Kidd, I think J Kid was all over the place sitting there. Because again, also Nico said it like J Kid didn't know. Right? So, like even being in the dark, like, you start thinking of, I. I think JK is sitting there thinking about all of that. It was, yeah, like, you just see the look on his face was crazy.
- [40:40]
Draymond Green
Why didn't you tell me? Just tell me. Homie don't, don't let me sit like this.
- [40:45]
Steph Curry
Hey, I respect it though, because they are right. Like, you see Shams give stories and like all a lot of people that be leaking stuff these days. Like, it's not like you just got four coaches anymore. Like, I think our coaching staff may be 20 guys.
- [41:03]
Draymond Green
That's crazy.
- [41:03]
Steph Curry
And so all of a sudden you tell your coach and he tell his guy on the coaching staff, he go tell his young guy on the coaching staff, right? And all of a sudden they get back to Shams and then it don't go through. Now if you're Dallas and you're secretly trying to trade Luke and it don't.
- [41:21]
Draymond Green
Go through, oh, that's.
- [41:22]
Steph Curry
Oh, now you got a real issue, you know, and so I think I understood it, right? Like everybody's like, oh man, like, how could you not say this to jk? How could you not? But like in a situation like that where you can't tell nobody, you can't tell anybody. And we live in this world where people tell everything. People show you their location, exactly where they at when they there, right? We live in this world where everything is leaked to the media. So the one time that some don't get leaked, people trying to say that's crazy. No, that's how actually things probably should be. You know, like if you're doing something to better your team and you're trying to make a shrink, it's probably best that you don't say that to anyone. And so I think in looking at that, I think I would hope that one of the main takeaways for people is keep your mouth shut. Like that deal got Luka Doncic got traded and it was quiet, which means everybody else can shut the hell up. Like, stop sharing every little secret you have to like try to get a leg up or gain a friend. Like, I don't understand it, so I respect the way they did it. Did they get the most value that they could get for Luca? People like, oh, they could have got three picks or they could have got four. They got Anthony Davis.
- [42:44]
Draymond Green
Bingo.
- [42:45]
Steph Curry
And a first round pick that, you know, we'll see how it goes. Nonetheless, like, if they wanted to flip Anthony Davis right now, they could flip Anthony Davis for four first round picks.
- [42:57]
Draymond Green
Yeah, for sure.
- [42:58]
Steph Curry
Right? So it's not like they can't get the first round picks if they wanted the picks. But they trying to win now and they got a guy who helps them win now. Not to mention they just put him next to a center which he loves. He loves Playing next to a center, and they just put him next to a big ass center in Daniel Gafford and a big ass center in Derrick Lively. Right. So that kills Those problems for A.D. yep. Listen, man, I think in a situation like that where you traded Luka, I'm not sure there's many guys that they could have got back that you go from wherever they were in the west to people saying, oh, that's the best team in the West. They traded Luka Doncic and people are saying it's the best team in the west.
- [43:48]
Draymond Green
Team.
- [43:49]
Steph Curry
But then on the flip side, you got people like, oh, that's the dumbest trade. Well, how are they the best team in the West? But it's the dumbest trade ever. Like, I don't quite understand that. Nonetheless, I feel for Luka because you've poured into that community, you have taken that city home, made it home.
- [44:12]
Draymond Green
And.
- [44:13]
Steph Curry
Like out of nowhere blindly get traded. I do feel bad for him because that's the shitty side of the NBA. Like, if Luka came out and was like, yo, I want to be traded, there'd be this huge uproar of like.
- [44:23]
Draymond Green
Oh, yeah, they would.
- [44:24]
Steph Curry
You know what I'm saying? Another star player want to leave the team and like, we need to stop this. But this man gets traded in the dark, in the middle of the night. He literally got traded after midnight.
- [44:34]
Draymond Green
That's crazy.
- [44:35]
Steph Curry
Eastern time, after midnight, right in the middle of the night. Luka Doncic got traded in the dark.
- [44:40]
Draymond Green
Doncic.
- [44:42]
Steph Curry
It's crazy. Like, I saw. I feel for Luka, you know, I think Luka, if I'm not mistaken, I think he just had a kid, you.
- [44:49]
Draymond Green
Know, so like, just bought a house too.
- [44:52]
Steph Curry
I heard he just bought a new career. Like, and that makes sense because his home had just got broken into. So I'm sure he was probably moving somewhere with more security or whatever. But, man, I do feel bad for him, you know? And Luca is not a guy that's going to come out and say something. He not. I saw his dad say something. But Luka not a guy that's going to come out and say something. So I do feel a little bad. I feel bad for Luka for sure.
- [45:16]
Draymond Green
Okay. I don't feel bad for Luka. Why you going to the Lakers, baby? Ooh, that's you coming to the land. Come on. You an international superstar, a megastar. Now it's rock and roll time. A lot of them games that we was hearing about or didn't see, oh, we get to see that. And you know How Laker fans are they gonna, they gonna take it up times 10 now with Luka, you got, you have time.
- [45:48]
Steph Curry
Yes.
- [45:48]
Draymond Green
The Lakers have bought themselves a great opportunity to build now, to compete now and start to mobilize how they want to be in the future.
- [46:00]
Steph Curry
Yeah, no, that's around a superstar at 25.
- [46:04]
Draymond Green
So I think at 25 years old. Okay, who do you think won the.
- [46:10]
Steph Curry
Trade in the interim? In the interim, in the interim right now, today. Anthony Davis. Dallas, because. And the reason I say that, that's a may team. You got Luka if you're a Lakers now. But now you don't have a big, you know, you don't have a starting caliber center. And so I think for them now they have to figure out how to make, how to build the team, right? Like you got Bron, you got Luka, you got Austin Reaves, you know, but now you gotta like figure out how to build the team up. So now they'll need to at some point get a big, right? And so I think as of right now, currently as it stands today, you lace them up, you go out there and play tomorrow it's Dallas. But I don't think this was a move that the Lakers was making to say we're betting right now for today. I think what the Lakers thought was this team ain't great, we not winning the championship. We got a chance to get Luka Doncic. This gives us a chance to possibly sign a couple guys and compete right now with Luka and LeBron, but also gives us a chance to compete to where with luka. Now that 2027 draft pick ain't going to be as high as people thought it was. 2029 probably won't be high as people thought it was either, adding Luka to this roster. So I think, you know, currently as it stands, the Mavs, but this is a, this is a right now and long term play for the Lakers. And so I think as they build the team up then that could change. But they're going to need to build a team on now. And also before we say something else, shout out to my young fella, Max Christie. That's right, you know, has earned himself into the starting lineup. I think now for Max, Max is going to a team that's more loaded in that position now, you know, so he got to go figure his way out. Nonetheless, he a Spartan dog. He going to do things out there that a lot of those other guys ain't gonna do because they ain't been coached by Tom Izzo. So I Believe he'll figure it out either way.
- [48:19]
Draymond Green
Yeah, I believe that was kind of like the, the, the caveat in the deal. Watching Max Christie, his evolution, you know, JJ playing him, I saw some. I saw why they drafted him. I saw his potential. And now moving that piece over to Dallas, complimenting Klay Thompson, right? Being over there complimenting Klay Thompson because Max going to play some defense. Max can score, he can cut. He cut to the basket. He athletic, right? So Dallas is now getting not only 80, but they getting a young dog, right? They got another young dog that, that can fit into that, that ecosystem and what they building 100%.
- [49:07]
Steph Curry
And here's the thing, like when you look at the NBA and a lot of things that I think fans don't understand is like contracts, your contract matters.
- [49:17]
Draymond Green
Yeah, it does.
- [49:18]
Steph Curry
And so, for instance, Max just signed a four year, $32 million deal. He's going to get an opportunity, and he'll probably get the opportunity over Quentin Grimes because he has a meaningful contract. And that's where I don't think, like I said, I don't think people understand how much that matters. When you like, oh, that guy should have signed for less. Like, yeah, you signed for less. You're also setting yourself up to get screwed. Because you signed for less, your value is no longer as high as it was, you know, so if you're not in a certain position and you sign for less, you can screw yourself. And so here's why I think, like, Max signing that deal actually gives him more security than just financial security. It gives him more security to get an opportunity or two or three. Yeah, because he got the contract. And so I think. And I think with an opportunity, he figures it out. Spartan dog. That's what we do.
- [50:13]
Draymond Green
I agree. I also wanted to dial in the Utah Jazz, right? They didn't even know that Luca was being traded. Can you explain how is that possible for them to be involved in the trade and then not know somebody being traded? The Utah Jazz, right? They didn't even know that Luca was being traded. Can you explain how is that possible for them to be involved in the trade and then not know somebody being traded? At that point, do you just wake up and be like, man, who the Lakers in the Dallas. Who can we call to get some picks? Call Utah. Come on, call Utah. You want some draft picks?
- [51:02]
Steph Curry
Yeah.
- [51:02]
Draymond Green
Gotta take it.
- [51:03]
Steph Curry
Take good spirit. Listen, here's what I will say about that. Bd Rob Pelinka.
- [51:15]
Draymond Green
It's crazy.
- [51:18]
Steph Curry
It is a little on the lines of morally fucked up for what he did, but I understand why he did it. But it's a little along the lines of, you know, how someone do something and you like, well, they didn't break a law so they can't go to jail. But morally that's fucked up. And I think Rob Palinka right there teetering that line of like, you didn't quite do anything wrong. But morally, I don't think Danny ain't gonna ever work with him again. Because no, for sure, like, who knows if Danny would have did the deal or not. But you didn't give me the choice. And I think that's going to put a strain on their working relationship. Cause how many times you tell me this, bd how many times have you seen the wool get pulled over Danny Ainge's head? Danny Ainge do the.
- [52:22]
Draymond Green
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very seldom, very seldom in his tenure.
- [52:28]
Steph Curry
Rob Pelinka and Nico Harrison pulled the wool over his head. So.
- [52:34]
Draymond Green
And then it's the Lakers too. So you know, Danny Ains and the Lakers don't get along.
- [52:40]
Steph Curry
Danny ain't trying to help no Lakers. He's a Boston Celtic. He's a Boston Celtic. He not trying to deep down inside at all. So for those people out there, I'm not a general manager, but how I would imagine that happened is if you call and you're just like, yo, we're trying to get off Hilshifino. Young guy will give up two second round picks and Danny A is going to take them because he taking all those draft picks right now. Then it don't matter.
- [53:12]
Draymond Green
Wait, time out. Are you saying. Hold on. I think I know what you said. Did Rob Pelinka call Danny Ainge and make the trade and didn't tell him nothing about this.
- [53:27]
Steph Curry
1,000%. 1,000%.
- [53:31]
Draymond Green
Ooh, that is. Ooh. Hey, hey, dude.
- [53:36]
Steph Curry
But here's the thing though, BD here's how he can get away with it though. I'm going to tell you how he got. He can get away with it because in that deal the only thing that went to Utah was hush Feno and two second round picks from the Lakers.
- [53:50]
Draymond Green
Some picks from the Lakers like it.
- [53:52]
Steph Curry
Wasn'T like it was Dallas pick or, you know, Dallas didn't have to give up nothing. No, the picks came from the Lakers, so you didn't have to let him know that there was a third team involved because everything that Utah received came from the Lakers. But man, that's a little.
- [54:09]
Draymond Green
Oh man, he got fleece. Hey, dog. Oh, that is. That is borderline. Ah, that is.
- [54:16]
Steph Curry
Oh, Wait, like I said, BD that's.
- [54:19]
Draymond Green
When you got it. That's when you gotta come knock on Danny H. May have to see Rob be like, hey, bro, I gotta come knock on your door, homie. You owe me one. That's. That's one of them. You owe me one.
- [54:31]
Steph Curry
Like, you owe me one for sure. This is Conscious, man. This ain't like they made a trade.
- [54:36]
Draymond Green
Can you imagine?
- [54:37]
Steph Curry
They ain't make a trade work for like, you know, they had traded for Rui last year. It ain't like they made the trade work for Rui. This is Luka Doncic, man.
- [54:48]
Draymond Green
Like, hey, dude, they went over there and fleeced and you say fleeced Danny A. Wow.
- [54:58]
Steph Curry
For sure. For sure. You don't see that happen to Danny often. You don't see that happen to sound press the often, right? Like, wow, a job.
- [55:09]
Draymond Green
Imagine waking up. Yeah, it was incredible. Good job. Rob Pelinka. He got that off.
- [55:15]
Steph Curry
Absolutely.
- [55:16]
Draymond Green
Hey, he really got that off. Hey, Danny Ainge. I got these two picks and Hood Shavino. Hey, what you thinking? Oh, man. What, man? Let me just get. Let me give you those. He's like, thank you. Thank you.
- [55:32]
Steph Curry
Two more picks. Woo.
- [55:34]
Draymond Green
Let me call, let me call.
- [55:36]
Steph Curry
Let me call Nico.
- [55:37]
Draymond Green
Nico is done. Nico is done. It's done. I got Utah involved. They go, oh, man.
- [55:46]
Steph Curry
Hey. 30 minutes later they come across Danny A ticket. Luca Donches traded to the Los Angeles.
- [55:53]
Draymond Green
And you know, Danny A. Is hot, but he is. Look at. He even said it. He's. He basically said he. He was in.
- [56:00]
Steph Curry
No.
- [56:00]
Draymond Green
He had no idea that he was helping the Lakers.
- [56:03]
Steph Curry
Crazy.
- [56:05]
Draymond Green
He had no idea.
- [56:07]
Steph Curry
By the time he found out, it was late. That is crazy. Crazy, bro.
- [56:16]
Draymond Green
You can never. You can never do another deal with the Utah Jazz if you're the Lakers. Unless you go give them something. You gotta. You gotta go get that man. Something back later in a couple years to be like, hey, man, no hard feelings.
- [56:31]
Steph Curry
You have to. Absolutely. It's crazy.
- [56:35]
Draymond Green
The warriors begin a six game road trip on Wednesday. I want to do something a little different. I want to talk storylines for each team instead of, you know, usually how we talk matchups.
- [56:46]
Steph Curry
Yep.
- [56:47]
Draymond Green
That's cool.
- [56:48]
Steph Curry
Yes, sir.
- [56:48]
Draymond Green
All right, let's start. Let's start. Let's start with Utah. First, the Utah Jazz. This team is looking to keep drafting picks, right? They want the number one pick. Cooper Flag. Everybody is saying, how important is it for a franchise to get the number one pick coming in this draft? And what does that do for Utah with what they're doing?
- [57:12]
Steph Curry
It's very important for Utah to get the number one pick in this draft. Not to be racist, but Utah is very white. It's like a very white place. And so Cooper fly like I'm sure they're looking at as like their next great hope, you know, and that he fit in there, you know, he's from Maine, you know. And so I think that's kind of a match made in heaven. And I'm sure they're doing all that they can to try to get it to make that match happen. I think for us, they have some good NBA players on that team. And for us we just got to make sure that we stay locked in. But because you can easily go lose that game, we don't have any space to do that. But this is Danny Ainge, like, Danny Ainge rebuilt the Boston Celtics that we know, as we know today off of this same exact strategy. And he's proven that he can do it. I think he'll do it again. But it's very important for them to get the number one draft because they can't pay anybody to come to Utah, right? So you gotta get the number one pick because they can't pay a number one pick talent to come to Utah. No, can't pay them enough.
- [58:30]
Draymond Green
They not getting one of them superstars to land. 0% chance they could get Jimmy Butler, though. He could wind up in Utah as the last resort. He don't want to go.
- [58:43]
Steph Curry
He gonna send Bernie and Pat office like Jimmy not signing an extension with Utah.
- [58:50]
Draymond Green
He gonna really have that emo hair, them emo bangs in Utah. Here's a bold take. If this does not work, Trey Luca Luka play, you make the playoffs. Who knows next year if this shit don't work, LeBron what happens? Does LeBron leave or do the Lakers say, hey, this is the final piece to move to figure out this roster for Luke.
- [59:18]
Steph Curry
I think if anything's going to happen with Brian, as far as leaving the Laker, I think it happens this summer. I don't think it's a next year thing because I also don't think, I don't think you're going to, he don't have time. But I also don't think you're going to see a LeBron James trade mid season. I, I, no, we were shocked by this one, but I just can't foresee that. Like we made a go at it last year and the one reason it didn't happen is because you just weren't going to get a LeBron James moving mid season, you know, and so I think if anything happens, it happens this coming summer. I don't think it's wait till next deadline and see it ain't working. I. I don't foresee that.
- [60:00]
Draymond Green
I don't foresee what. But what is the dot? Okay, so what is the domino effect, right, of this trade to the NBA?
- [60:12]
Steph Curry
Nobody's safe.
- [60:15]
Draymond Green
Nobody's safe.
- [60:16]
Steph Curry
And every. And if you're a general manager, you calling on Giannis, you calling on Steph Curry, you calling. You calling on God, when being. You calling on.
- [60:28]
Draymond Green
You might as well.
- [60:28]
Steph Curry
You don't even think you have a chance at it. Now, if you're a gm, I think the way that this plays out moving forward is you're going to have. You're going to now start seeing more young, promising talent get traded, because you're going to just get more calls. And as opposed to before, like, nobody's calling in, like, yo, y'all trying to trade Steph, or, yo, y'all trying to trade women. Nobody's calling the center. You're gonna get those calls now all the time of people just throwing shit at a wall and seeing if it stick, man. That's kind of the way I. That's. That's the. I think one of the biggest impacts on the NBA. And then, let's face it, you got Luka Doncic and Laker purple and gold.
- [61:16]
Draymond Green
That's crazy.
- [61:17]
Steph Curry
That's massive. Like, it's the Lakers. It's the Lakers brand. And now with Luca Doncic in it, you talking about globally, like it's a real thing.
- [61:26]
Draymond Green
And la. Yeah, and la. There's a. There's a real community here, you know, and it's a real diverse community for him. That Europe. It's a European vibe here for him. It's a more welcoming vibe for him. So. Man. Damn.
- [61:49]
Steph Curry
Yeah, I think it. I think it changed it for sure.
- [61:51]
Draymond Green
It's a good. Yeah, it's a. It's a huge domino effect. I also wanted to pinpoint. Dallas was smart because they got off that supermax.
- [62:03]
Steph Curry
Yeah.
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Draymond Green
Because that supermax is gonna kill a lot of teams. Like you were saying, you're gonna see a lot of young dudes get traded, because now it's like, they coming up on that supermax, and it's like, yo, in five years, is this dude gonna be worth a hundred million dollars a year?
- [62:21]
Steph Curry
Yeah, you know what? This goes back to BD on the Draymond Green show before. I was blessed to have you come on and partner on this show and bring a whole different life and take to this show when I just used to be sitting here by myself talking to a Draymondamis.
- [62:41]
Draymond Green
Draymond.
- [62:42]
Steph Curry
Absolutely. I spoke about, and I went on a tweet storm about how fucking dumb stupid the CBA that we were going to sign as players when it. When it first leaked that we were going to agree to a deal and they leaked the terms. I went on this whole tweet storm, and I spoke on the pod about how dumb that CBA was. And, you know, you see Luka Doncic getting traded, don't for. Not for one second think that that's also not a byproduct of that dumbass CBA we signed. You put in a hard cap. The second apron is a hard cap. Yeah. And every time somebody get up that second April, you can bet your bottom dollar they're going to be trying to trade out of that second April. And so you just saw Luka Doncic get traded at 25.
- [63:36]
Draymond Green
That's crazy.
- [63:38]
Steph Curry
That is a byproduct of the second April of Dallas. Like, man, we're going to have to pay him $85 million a year. All right, he good. He great.
- [63:50]
Draymond Green
But ain't no money for nobody else.
- [63:52]
Steph Curry
We, like, we about to go into the second apron. No, we ain't trying to go into the second apron. Right. And so Luka Doncic getting traded and what I have not seen anyone talk about is 1 million percent a byproduct of. Of the cap cap situation in the second apron. It is 1,000%, and I don't think people notice or realize that, but you're going to see more and more trades like that, because that second apron, man, that's just a. It's just a nice way of saying a hard cap.
- [64:27]
Draymond Green
Yeah. It's just a crazy threshold. It puts. It puts the team in a bad predicament. Obviously, it's incredible for the player, but if you trying to build and you trying to win, and your top two dudes is taking all the bread, you're not. And they. And you're paying them off potential.
- [64:47]
Steph Curry
Yes.
- [64:48]
Draymond Green
You know, you're paying them off of, hey, over these next five, we're paying you off of potential. I just think that, you know, that hard cap and, like, you saying that, that. That second apron, a lot of people are gonna start falling in that second apron, and it's gonna give the team, like, it's just gonna be so much player movement because people are gonna try to avoid that, and you're going to lose loyalty from your young superstars. All right, next Is the Los Angeles Lakers, obviously the new look Lakers been here in la. Luca won't be playing. Most likely he won't return until February 8th. Talk about the Lakers as a threat. Talk about the Lakers right now without Luca, you know, they, they won, I think four. They went four on one without A.D. how dangerous are the Lakers, you know, from now and then the next fight at 10 years, I mean now you.
- [65:49]
Steph Curry
Have LeBron James and Luka Donchians. You're dangerous. Can you figure it out? Can you figure everything out around the defensive side of the ball, losing the rim protector like ad? All of those things. You have to figure those things out. But they got LeBron James and Luka Doncic. They always have a chance to win the game for the next five to 10 years. I think, you know, they're in a great spot as far as getting to Luca. And opposite, complete opposite of what the problem that Utah has is the Lakers can get people to sign there. You know, you can get people to come sign in la. So they have the opposite issue of the Utah Jazz when it comes to that. But in saying that the next five to ten years looks great, but it all depends on Luka's health, you know, Luka's health will be the driver of what the Lakers look like in the next five to 10 years.
- [66:43]
Draymond Green
Yeah, we need Luka to have one of them Venice beach bodies. He gotta go out there, you know, and get on Venice Beach. We need Luka with his Muscle beach body.
- [66:55]
Steph Curry
LeBron posted a picture of the new Big Three in LA. Luka Braun and Reed. What is your first impression on the new Lakers with Luka?
- [67:03]
Draymond Green
It's cracking out here. Cause you got two LeBrons. Yeah, Luka rebound. He passed the ball. Right. Obviously you know, the game, the game, it was a blowout. But just to know that Luka got all the little Luka magic things and it's cracking like he was missing some of them shots. Some of them and ones, you know, missing some passes. Oh, man. Once this dude lock in, you think about. Same thing with, with Steph and Jimmy. LeBron goes out the game. Now you gotta worry about Luka and Luka pace is much slower than LeBron's. And so when you match their pace together and then you include Austin Reaves, who've been playing stellar at the point guard position. Right? He just, he been doing whatever he wants. Score, get to the hole, shoot the three. And now he's starting to really find reads and make the right plays, the right assists. JJ Redick got him rolling they got some potency, you know, they got a three headed monster in la and they all are creative. And so you powered up in the back court, you powered up in like your back court and front court. It's really about the other guys that's on the floor for the Lakers who gonna do the hustling, the scrapping, you know, getting, getting deflections, getting offensive rebound put backs. But you ain't got to worry about too much the way I'm looking at how this Laker thing gonna shake out. Cause with Luca, you ain't gotta ask for too much for, for, for too many people. Give me five, give me seven. I need, you know, I need, I need Hachimura, I need 11 from you. Like you ain't asking for much and you're gonna be wide open.
- [68:59]
Steph Curry
That's true.
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Draymond Green
What more was, you know, what more could you say about Luther? And they, they gave him a name out here in la. They call him Luca. Luca. The Crimson already mocked you. Definitely. All right, Luka.
- [69:16]
Steph Curry
Over the weekend involving the Los Angeles Lakers, who they were trying to fill AD's glaring hole that he left behind with Mark Williams fell to physical and they said not because of his back, that sidelined him most of last season, but because of multiple other issues of concern. Sources said hoarders are protesting the trade being rescinded. They are. The Hornets are protesting the trade being rescinded.
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Draymond Green
Right.
- [69:49]
Steph Curry
What is your reaction to this whole debacle?
- [69:52]
Draymond Green
This is like Watergate. It's like old school Watergate. This is like when they was messing up the voting polls. Something is not right. This is tricky. Okay. I just dealt you a player knowing damn well he don't pass the physical, but he just played two, two games ago.
- [70:13]
Steph Curry
Absolutely.
- [70:15]
Draymond Green
So that's tricky meaning. Hey, Charlotte, you may be prone to some type of investigation on your damn own, right? Depending on what Mark Williams said. Now the Lakers, how do you not pass a physical in the middle of the season when you're already playing? What are the Lakers qualifications? And so the Lakers may have had cold feet and knowing that, ah, he didn't pass like it could be anything. It could be anything, bro. It could be anything. It could be a spray finger, it could be a oxygen slaughter.
- [71:01]
Steph Curry
Remember that Mood?
- [71:05]
Draymond Green
Oh, he got Oz and slaughter. Nope, he don't pass the physical. So who knows what type of injury or back injury or whatever it is. But it, you know, we all play. I played with herniated discs my whole career and you know, it is a problem. So it's going to be Tricky to see how this all unfold, but it's definitely a unsolved mystery. And the cold part about it is the players got to go back to the teams that is training them, and now you're going to ask them to perform for you for the rest of the year. So what are you going to do? Especially if you don't connect? Like, if you don't connect, what do you. What. What.
- [71:53]
Steph Curry
How do you feel if you don't connect? You have to do your best job to be the best professional you can. Yep. Don't connect. Lawyer you have. Excuse me. If you're dog connects Asian, you have to have your client's best interest at heart. Come to son. I. I don't know how he walks back into that locker room as a shooter and be like, oh, yeah, now you're gonna put me in this game, and I'm about to go shoot that thing. Like, I mean, hopefully he can, because this can, like, going through something like this can really, like, derail this kid's career. Yeah, like, it could do that because it could kill his confidence. Like, and when you lose confidence in this league, you don't get it back. And so this could really derail. This could really derail Dawn's connect's career. It's tough. I got out of Mark Williams is one thing, but Don connect, he was hoping, like, they just like, go ahead, bro. Like, yeah. And apparently he was going to be in the ad trace, so they kind of was just off him anyway, from what it sounded like. So his. And then now you got to go back there. That's tough.
- [73:03]
Draymond Green
He got to go back. He got to go back and kill.
- [73:05]
Steph Curry
That's tough.
- [73:06]
Draymond Green
He got to go back and kill. Well, he going to be open. He gonna be open.
- [73:11]
Steph Curry
He definitely gonna. He gonna be.
- [73:12]
Draymond Green
He gonna be wide open. That's for Luca out there. So, you know, make a name for yourself. Take advantage of the opportunity if you gonna hoop. Hoop. But like Dre say, you gotta make sure now that you know that you are the. You are a disposable piece to the Lakers, and you should be. You gotta look out for your own best interest.
- [73:37]
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Podcast Host
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Peja Stojaković
Peja 5 Dirk Ford.
- [74:28]
Draymond Green
Peja is elite.
- [74:28]
Podcast Host
Okay, okay.
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Draymond Green
I'm mad him I left him off my list, but I still like my list.
- [74:34]
Podcast Host
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
- [74:36]
Peja Stojaković
That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. Yes, absolutely love it.
- [74:41]
Podcast Host
Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.
- [74:44]
Peja Stojaković
When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with it. Anytime you're wide open like you might as well just count that and get on back on defense.
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Podcast Host
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- [75:08]
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The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?
- [75:16]
Steph Curry
I feel sometimes that I'm not listening to.
- [75:18]
Draymond Green
I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations.
- [75:22]
Steph Curry
With me and lead me towards success.
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- [76:15]
Steph Curry
Let's go around and legalize bit we going to move around the association a bit. Russ is playing great in Denver man. He's 15 and 5 as a starter. Two of those losses came vers elite teams without joker. What do you think about Russ's yeah brewing resurgence this year and really just with the opportunity he's been given because the reality is he's always played this great when he's had that been in that position with that opportunity. But what do you think about. It's just the way he's bouncing back this year.
- [76:49]
Draymond Green
One, Resiliency. When you think of Russ, you just think of resiliency. He will figure it out. Once he figures it out, once he's able to play Russell Westbrook basketball within the confines of the team, he's always positive. It's always a positive outcome. And so having somebody like Joker is the perfect match for him. Right. Because he loves dishing and rewarding the big guy. And he's never had a center that plays point guard that allows him to do what he's great at. Back door cuts, get on the offensive glass. Right. All the little. All those little things from a point guard perspective put so much pressure on the defense. Right. Because like imagine you playing Joker out on the five shot. He shoot a three. He. He can just shoot a three just to shoot one. It's Russ down there, right. He is a bona fide rebounder. Right. And he's a force in the inside. So when you look at back door layups, passing, cutting, coming off a pick and roll, getting in the middle of the lane, even if Russ is missing, you got Joker there tipping it in. So, you know, and playing ab. Plant a butter glass. So I think that for Russ, perfect fit, right. For Denver, they found their elevated version of Bruce Brown. Yeah.
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- [78:25]
Draymond Green
And that's what. And. And that's what they missed. I said that. I said that's what they missed last year. They don't have that dog that can just go and, you know, make some. Make some happen. You know, outside of Joker, outside of Jamal Murray, they don't have. They don't have that idol per. They don't have that idle person in playmaker. Now you got that with Russ and he connected with Joker. Man, they gonna. They gonna be serious in the playoffs. I know that.
- [78:55]
Steph Curry
Yeah. Yeah. No, they are for sure. I don't think anybody gonna want to see them during the playoffs with the way.
- [79:01]
Draymond Green
Right.
- [79:01]
Steph Curry
The way rustling the.
- [79:04]
Draymond Green
The difference in the coach. Right. Mike Brown, excellent guy, great coach. But in time, usually in times like these, you see teams respond.
- [79:15]
Steph Curry
Yeah.
- [79:16]
Draymond Green
Right. To new coaches. Just talk about being in the league and seeing that, you know, also not having that. Right. Having that stability, what that means as well.
- [79:27]
Steph Curry
Yeah. Now for sure. It's crazy because I always tell people like I am. I've been very fortunate in my career to be here for 13 years because I am. Like, I am not one that's keen to change. Like, I do not like change Keep my stuff the same and.
- [79:46]
Draymond Green
Right.
- [79:47]
Steph Curry
And so to not have to go through that throughout the course of my career, where guys, you got some guys that got a coach every other year or two, I feel like I would struggle with that a lot. Even if it's team to team every other year, I struggle with that because I just don't adjust to change well. And so to have. This is the thing that you do the most, this is the thing in your life that you end up having to spend so much energy and focus on that, to have to make that adjustment every year drive me crazy. And so I'm very fortunate that I haven't had to deal with that. But when you look around the league, the teams that have the consistency are usually the teams that do best. And the bad organizations that switching coaches every year, every other year, it usually don't work. And the proof and the pudding is right there in your face. And so, you know, if you even look at teams around the NFL that has had success, Stillers coach, same for many years. Andy Reid in Kansas City, been there for many years. Bill Belichick is with the Patriots for many years. You know, when you look at the coaches that have done well, they've been there for many years. And so as players, we need that consistency. Like, you don't want to be adjusted to a different playbook, a different set of coaches, a different philosophy every other year or two. And so I think, you know, when for the guys in sack, it's kind of like the happy medium, whereas you got a different coach. But Doug has been there. And if I'm not mistaken, Doug was there even before Mike Brown got there on the coaching staff. That was there prior to Mike Brown getting there, if I'm not mistaken.
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Draymond Green
And so I do believe that, you.
- [81:42]
Steph Curry
Know, that is still a level of consistency for them. It's a consistent voice that those guys have heard for years. And it's not like it's just some huge change, foreign change, that a voice that they haven't been hearing for many years. And so it makes a huge difference, man, having that consistency. And like I said, I speak about that from experience. I haven't had to deal with much change. I've changed coaches one time in my 13 years.
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Draymond Green
Yeah, that makes sense. And then talk about like those minor adjustments, because in that change, it was a couple adjustments. And now, you know, people give credit to my Mark Jackson about the foundation he laid when the coaching changeover happened. That's when the warriors took off. And you know, talk about minor tweaks Right? How that. How you can fix that Rubik's Cube and get all the colors working and the patterns right. You have something special. And I think, you know, I want you to talk about that as far as coaching, because, you know, being with Kerr, winning championships, you know, your loyalty, right? And. And just having that brain trust with that do as well, for sure.
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Steph Curry
So if. Even if you look at, like, some of the minor changes that'll happen, and we've been speaking about the Kings, so in their. In their. In their space, like I said, starting Malik, Monk, getting Keon Ellis, more minutes, putting more trust in here, giving him more confidence, more consistent minutes that he's getting, right? Like, that's one of the big changes for them. Moving Monk into the star lineup, that's one of the big changes for them. For us, when we switched coaches, we were, you know, we had went to the playoff two years in a row, and some of the tweaks that Steve brought in, like, Mark Jackson did do a great job of laying the foundation. But just when Steve came in, the offensive changes that he made was everything for us. Like, our defense was really, really great, and they had got that to an incredible place. But the offensive changes that Steve brought in, the ball movement and player movement, and, you know, our offense was a lot more stagnant before Steve came. And so I think just him making those changes, that changed everything, because it unlocked a lot of stuff for us. It unlocked the floor for us. And so, you know, you have philosophical changes like that, you know, where Steve come in with some. Some principles of the triangle, but not quite running the triangle, you know, And I think, you know, so that was kind of our changes. And then obviously, when Steve came in, I also became a starter, you know, so that was a huge change.
- [84:29]
Draymond Green
It unlocked your potential.
- [84:31]
Steph Curry
It unlocked my potential. And it also unlocked just different things about our offense. Like, I play different than D. Lee, you know what I'm saying? So it just unlocked some different things in our offense that really allowed us to take off recently.
- [84:47]
Draymond Green
Scotty Pippen says he wins six rings without Michael Jordan. This is water, you know, that's when you tell your friends, man, take a shot.
- [85:08]
Steph Curry
What's wrong with Scotty, man? Somebody gotta check on Scotty, man. I. I'm a. I'm a. I grew up watching them teams, man. I'm a. I'm a big Scotty fan. Scotty. I don't know what Scotty going through, man, but I send my love because I'm dead ass, man. Because you start making comments like Scotty been making lately. And people start to remember you for those comments and not necessarily for being Scottie Pippen. And I don't like that. You know what I'm saying? People try to downplay who you are and what you've done because of the comments you made lately. And I just don't want to see people, people doing that to Scotty because Scotty is for damn sure Scotty. And that's why I say, man, I like, I just want like to make sure Scotty good, man. Because saying stuff like that, like, he said him and Michael Jordan, they never sat down for dinner. Like, to me it sound like it's coming from a place of pain. You know what I'm saying? Like, mj, he feeling like MJ kind of never maybe showing him the love that he ultimately think MJ should show. And he's like outwardly looking for that and saying things to like, downplay it as opposed to just saying, like. I feel like he kind of said it like, man, me and Michael Jordan ain't never had sit down and have dinner one on one. Like, I feel like he crying out and saying what he really crying out for and about and like, make that happen, man. Like, somebody get MJ and Scottie together. Because if he feel like he need.
- [86:38]
Draymond Green
That, like, it ain't gonna happen.
- [86:40]
Steph Curry
Hey, no dead ass, though. Bd, Check this out. Check this out.
- [86:44]
Draymond Green
Hey, bro, check.
- [86:46]
Steph Curry
Check this out.
- [86:47]
Draymond Green
I don't think it's going to happen.
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Steph Curry
I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm Scotty Pippen, but what I am saying is if somewhere down the line, 20 years from now I want to have dinner with Steph Curry, I will hope that I can have dinner with Steph Curry. You know what I'm saying?
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Draymond Green
That's different.
- [87:05]
Steph Curry
With all that you've been through with somebody, like, you go through these journeys of winning championships, them shit's not easy. And yeah, to go on those journeys and not even be able to sit down and have dinner. Like, I feel like that's Scotty's outcry and so.
- [87:18]
Draymond Green
But Michael Jordan don't eat dinner.
- [87:21]
Steph Curry
Michael Jordan do eat dinner, man. The black cat.
- [87:27]
Draymond Green
We ain't never heard about Michael Jordan having dinner with nobody.
- [87:31]
Steph Curry
And that's fine. But he also ain't want. Like, it's Mike and Scotty, man. Like, and it don't matter if he has a dinner with anybody else. Need that.
- [87:41]
Draymond Green
I know. No, he do.
- [87:43]
Steph Curry
Scotty need that, man. Scotty crying out for that.
- [87:46]
Draymond Green
He is crying out for that. But you know, shout out to Michael Jordan, right?
- [87:52]
Steph Curry
Of course.
- [87:52]
Draymond Green
Michael Jordan don't give. Hey, fly. He ain't tripping at all.
- [88:00]
Steph Curry
Of course he not.
- [88:01]
Draymond Green
You feel me? Hey, Michael Jordan is not tripping, okay? Huh? Who?
- [88:08]
Steph Curry
What?
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Draymond Green
Dinner? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
- [88:15]
Steph Curry
I wonder why he didn't go to dinner with Scotty. It's all making sense now. When you look at the whole picture, it's all making sense now, though, man.
- [88:22]
Draymond Green
I'm here to hoop. Michael Jordan was like, I am here to hoop. I do my job. I'm here to do my job. I'm not here to be friends with you. I'm not here to be friends with you on this court. Oh, man. We family. I love y'all, Scotty. And so Michael Jordan's defense, every time he speaks in an interview, he always say Scotty.
- [88:47]
Steph Curry
Yeah, he does.
- [88:49]
Draymond Green
Michael Jordan don't never say Michael Jordan without saying Scotty Pippen.
- [88:53]
Steph Curry
That's a fact.
- [88:54]
Draymond Green
Michael Jordan always say Scotty, bro. Okay, I get it. He should. Michael Jordan, if you hear me, if you can hear me now, please, bro, go sit down with your dog.
- [89:09]
Steph Curry
You know what I mean?
- [89:10]
Draymond Green
Y'all chop it up. We need to see a Michael Jordan. Maybe we can do a Michael Jordan Scottie Pippen interview, right?
- [89:18]
Steph Curry
Because right here on Draymond Green, the Baron Davis.
- [89:22]
Draymond Green
Come on. Come on, Michael Jones. Come on, Michael Jordan. I look, I got my ball head just like my. I know. Hey, I know how Mike feel because that when I cut my hair off. No, I don't want to have dinner. So. These are ball head thoughts. These are ball head thoughts.
- [89:47]
Steph Curry
Black Cat Mike. Mj.
- [89:50]
Draymond Green
But Scotty. Scotty Pippen is a legend. He's a legend.
- [89:55]
Steph Curry
Pip need you. Pip needs you, man.
- [89:58]
Draymond Green
But we. We gotta do a better. I. I say this. We gotta do a better job of talking about how great Scottie Pippen was for sure.
- [90:08]
Steph Curry
But he ain't gonna get it doing this dumb shit.
- [90:11]
Draymond Green
No, he gotta chill. Let us do the talking, Scott. Let us do the comparing. Scottie Pippen and different people.
- [90:19]
Steph Curry
LeBron said LeBron James chase his R like, bro, you're not going to say you better than LeBron.
- [90:25]
Draymond Green
Come on.
- [90:25]
Steph Curry
Scotty like you. That. That's not the way to get.
- [90:28]
Draymond Green
This is what say you're better.
- [90:30]
Steph Curry
That's crazy.
- [90:31]
Draymond Green
This is what I do say. LeBron is more of a combination of Magic Johnson and Scotty Pippen than he is compared to Michael Jordan, and that's fine.
- [90:43]
Steph Curry
But he's a combination of Scotty and Magic, which means he Scotty, stop. Yeah, Scotty. I'm just saying I'm better than them.
- [90:54]
Draymond Green
That's how Scotty got. Scotty got six rings, man.
- [90:58]
Steph Curry
Yeah, no, for sure. Nobody taking that away.
- [91:00]
Draymond Green
He can pop that now.
- [91:02]
Steph Curry
You can, but like, some. At a certain point, like for instance. All right, so. So pretty much what you're saying is this. You're pretty much saying, I can walk around. Don't do better than Kawhi. Don't do that. No, I'm just saying, like, you.
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Draymond Green
You don't do that.
- [91:16]
Steph Curry
You see?
- [91:16]
Draymond Green
Don't do that.
- [91:17]
Steph Curry
Like, I got four rings. Exactly.
- [91:19]
Draymond Green
Don't do that. Don't do that. That's not even.
- [91:21]
Steph Curry
I'm better than Kawhi. Now take that.
- [91:23]
Draymond Green
Come on, dude. That's not even close.
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Steph Curry
I'm better than Kawhi.
- [91:26]
Draymond Green
That's not even close.
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Steph Curry
Hey, no, but that's what you saying. That's.
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Draymond Green
You and Kawhi don't even play the same position.
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Steph Curry
I agree, but like, It's. It's not LeBron James either.
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Draymond Green
Like, not close. It is. Stop.
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Steph Curry
Now, see?
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Draymond Green
Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
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Steph Curry
You tripping.
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Draymond Green
I'm saying Scottie Pippen is a three. LeBron is a mold of Scottie Pippen and me's magic.
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Steph Curry
No, LeBron is a mo. LeBron, right?
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Draymond Green
He's a one on one for sure. But when you look at LeBron's game, Magic Johnson, Scottie Pippen, right? And all of the ism that make LeBron.
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Steph Curry
LeBron.
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Draymond Green
Right? And so Scottie Pippen is looking at it like, man, I'm a three. He a three, you know, And Scottie Pippen puts himself as he should in the upper echelon of threes.
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Steph Curry
Here's the thing, though. Brian ain't never really even been a three. He really like a point guard, and he came in as a point guard. But even if you want to say Bron's a three, great. Say a three, say a four. I really don't give a damn. Bron and Scottie Pippen is not in the same category.
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Draymond Green
They are not. That is not the case.
- [92:47]
Steph Curry
That's just not the case.
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Draymond Green
I did not say. I said Scottie Pippen, he, as a three, has won six championships.
- [92:55]
Steph Curry
No, that's great.
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Draymond Green
So he stand. He's standing on his six championships. He's standing on I killed in the finals defensive player of the year All Stars. He's standing on all that. That I think, you know, when he compare himself to Bron, that's just having confidence in himself.
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Steph Curry
Bron has had Scotty Career. Scotty's career, minus the rings twice.
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Draymond Green
For sure.
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Steph Curry
Like, minus the six rings. He's had Scotty's career twice.
- [93:27]
Draymond Green
Scotty messed up, if not three times.
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Steph Curry
That's the last one he's had.
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Draymond Green
He's had Scott. Scotty messed up with this.
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Steph Curry
Hey, come on, Scotty. I'm on Scott. Beside, by the way, I got number love for Scotty, but come on, Scotty.
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Draymond Green
You'Re not winning those six rings without him.
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Steph Curry
Come on, that's ridiculous. If that's the case, then when MJ left, you would have kept winning the ring, Scotty.
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Draymond Green
Like, he would have went back in the game.
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Steph Curry
You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, Scotty, you would have.
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Draymond Green
Went back in the game, and then.
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Steph Curry
You tried to justify. I can't believe you just tried to testify that.
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Draymond Green
I didn't try to justify nothing. I was speaking from his point of view. Yeah, I'm pissing you off today. Yeah, I'm pissing him off. Listen, Very accurate, Magic. Scotty Pippen, right? That is. When you look at LeBron's game, he embodies both of those players. I ain't rolling very, very. Not like mj.
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Steph Curry
No, him and mj not the same mj.
- [94:41]
Draymond Green
Not even close.
- [94:41]
Steph Curry
Yeah, they're not the same player.
- [94:43]
Draymond Green
Not even close. Yeah, totally different game.
- [94:45]
Steph Curry
Yeah, totally different game.
- [94:46]
Draymond Green
Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Magic, and Scottie Pippen as a hype.
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Steph Curry
Don't stop that Magic again. I'm a Scottie Pippen fan. Scotty Pippen does not belong in the category with Magic Johnson and LeBron James. I'm sorry, Scotty is. Is the legend, but I'm sorry, Scotty just cannot go in that.
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Draymond Green
I love that category, bro.
- [95:11]
Steph Curry
Zero disrespect to Scotty Pippen, but he cannot go in the category with LeBron James.
- [95:16]
Draymond Green
I'm not putting him in the category.
- [95:19]
Steph Curry
Come on. He just, like, great.
- [95:21]
Draymond Green
God of Magic Johnson, the greatness of Scottie Pippen. Mix that all together, you get LeBron James.
- [95:29]
Steph Curry
I don't know. That's. That's. That's too simple of like. And. But I'm not saying, like. Like, those are both special players, but I'm saying, like, that ain't gonna get it done. Ah, everything.
- [95:43]
Draymond Green
Think about it, bro. And then. And then it's. It's somebody, and then it's. And then it's. LeBron ism, right? Is his. Is his approach and his swag. But if you think about Magic and you think about how Pippen play, right? Like, that is the cornerstone of the greatness of LeBron James. I'm just saying he's equally as great, right? Like Scottie Pippen's greatness, defense, all the things he did. Then you got magic with the ooh. And just the magic. Then you add what LeBron got with the hops, the athleticism, the strength. That's like, bro, he the perfect combination of them two and Karl Malone, I'll tell you what.
- [96:30]
Steph Curry
So I had to just move my mind past them being in the same category, and what I had to allow my mind to do was combine the two players, and combining those two players is like. That's insane.
- [96:43]
Draymond Green
That's insane. That's LeBron James. That's what I'm saying.
- [96:46]
Steph Curry
So I can follow you a little bit. Then you add Karl Malone in there, like, like I said, a lot. All right.
- [96:52]
Draymond Green
I rest he built like Karl Malone. LeBron James is built like Karl Malone, bro. I rest he the same size as Karl Malone, which is crazy. That's crazy.
- [97:04]
Steph Curry
That makes no sense, man. That's ridiculous.
- [97:07]
Draymond Green
That's crazy. I had to guard him. I had to guard LeBron.
- [97:10]
Steph Curry
Yeah, yeah.
- [97:12]
Draymond Green
He like guarding Karl Malone and Magic Johnson all in the same one.
- [97:17]
Steph Curry
For Bron to be the same size as Karl Malone. For those of y'all that's never seen Karl Malone in person, that man is massive, man.
- [97:25]
Draymond Green
That's the problem.
- [97:28]
Steph Curry
And Brian. Him and Brian actually is the same size, which makes no sense.
- [97:32]
Draymond Green
That's crazy, bro. I'm telling you, the volume.
- [97:40]
Inner Child
This is Nikki Glazer from the Nikki Glazer podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other, because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country, and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out, and you can learn more by following at. What's up with Hate?
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Podcast Host
Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Stars weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era, and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.
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Peja Stojaković
Asia 5. Dirk Ford.
- [98:21]
Draymond Green
Asia is alone.
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Podcast Host
You won't believe who Steph left off his list.
- [98:24]
Peja Stojaković
That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations.
- [98:28]
Steph Curry
Love it.
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Podcast Host
Listen to Go G O T E Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Inner Child
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Draymond Green
Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan I.
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Steph Curry
Love writing more than anything. You're left alone, you know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon. Go pick up a kid from school and write at night. And after nine hours, you come out with seven pages and then you're moving on.
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Draymond Green
Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.