Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd Episode: The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Jordan Poole "Sorry" Tweet Explained & Reacting to Scottie Pippen’s MJ & LeBron Comments
Release Date: January 22, 2025

1. Opening Discussion: Jordan Poole's "Sorry" Tweet

[02:18] Draymond Green:
Draymond initiates the discussion by addressing a recent incident involving Jordan Poole. After a Washington Wizards game, Poole tweeted, "I love those guys over there. I love most of those guys over there," followed by a response from Draymond saying, "I really am sorry."

[02:50] Baron Davis:
Baron acknowledges the apology, emphasizing the need to move forward from past conflicts.
"I responded because, you know, like it's been three years. Like, let's move on."
He reflects on the incident where he punched Poole and his subsequent efforts to apologize, including reaching out to Poole's parents.

2. Moving Past Conflicts and Personal Accountability

[03:58] Draymond Green:
Emphasizes the importance of letting go of past mistakes to maintain one's legacy.
"It's over, bro. Yeah, bro, it's over."

[04:41] Baron Davis:
Baron shares his internal conflict regarding the incident, balancing acknowledgment of wrongdoing with the natural competitive reactions among teammates.
"The reality is the answer is probably somewhere in the middle, right? Like, I shouldn't have knocked him out like that. If anything, I should have hemmed him up."

3. Player Health Updates

[06:22] Draymond Green:
Discusses his own calf injury, expressing optimism about recovery while cautioning about the physical demands of basketball.
"I'm feeling solid, bro. I got a little small tear that I think it should heal pretty fast."

[07:40] Draymond Green:
Reflects on the challenges of returning from injury, highlighting the importance of calf work and overall conditioning.
"You have to be careful when them little tears and people don't understand this, like a little tear is. That hurts when you're trying to explode."

4. Coaching and Team Dynamics

[08:54] Baron Davis:
Analyzes the Sacramento Kings' performance under interim coach Doug Christie, noting improvements in team practices and player utilization.
"I think Doug has probably made those small fixes with practice and, you know, more Malik minutes, you know?"

[13:00] Baron Davis:
Shares his perspective on coaching stability in the NBA, drawing parallels to successful NFL coaches like Bill Belichick and Andy Reid.
"The teams that have the consistency are usually the teams that do best."
He praises Doug Christie’s dedication to the Kings organization and predicts his continued success.

[16:34] Baron Davis:
Recalls the impact of coaching changes in his career, specifically how Steve Kerr's offensive adjustments unlocked the Warriors' potential.
"Steve Kerr's offensive changes unlocked a lot of stuff for us. It unlocked the floor for us."

5. Defensive Player of the Year Discussion

[31:00] Draymond Green:
Introduces a debate on the Defensive Player of the Year (DPOY) awards, expressing skepticism about having multiple recipients.
"If you want a player of the year, you can't have two MVP awards."

[33:00] Baron Davis:
Agrees with Draymond's sentiment, suggesting the creation of additional defensive awards to recognize different roles.
"There should be one for the guards and one for the bigs or one for like the size blocker defensive lockdown award."

[34:14] Draymond Green:
Highlights the qualities of past DPOY winners who were fundamental to their teams' defenses, citing Ben Wallace and Tony Allen as examples.

6. Player Spotlights: Jalen Johnson

[38:11] Baron Davis:
Introduces a new segment celebrating underrated players, spotlighting Atlanta Hawks' Jalen Johnson for his impressive performance.
"This week's player spotlight is Atlanta Hawks' own young fella Jalen Johnson, 19 points, 10 rebounds, shooting 50%."

[39:04] Draymond Green:
Praises Johnson's versatility and his role as a perfect complement to Trae Young, asserting his significant improvement and impact on the team.
"Jalen Johnson has put himself right in the category where he's that number two guy in Atlanta."

[41:09] Baron Davis:
Concludes that Johnson deserves the title of most improved player, also acknowledging Norman Powell's noteworthy performance.
"Jalen Johnson just because, you know, Norm..."

7. Women's 3 on 3 Basketball League Analysis

[63:53] Draymond Green:
Expresses reservations about the newly introduced Women's 3 on 3 league, questioning its effectiveness in growing the sport.
"I don't think a 3 on 3 league is the answer because it's a different brand of basketball."

[64:28] Baron Davis:
Shares a critical view of the league, noting the perceived lack of authenticity and the challenges in showcasing the true skills of female athletes.
"I don't think the answer is somewhere between, like, you gotta get more WNBA games."

[67:30] Draymond Green:
Agrees, emphasizing the need for full-court games and diverse settings to better promote and develop women's basketball.
"I want to see different cities. If they travel the game, it would expand the game."

8. Scottie Pippen’s Comments on Michael Jordan and LeBron James

[42:32] Draymond Green:
Addresses Scottie Pippen's remarks about winning six rings without Michael Jordan, interpreting them as a cry for acknowledgment and reconciliation.
"Scottie is crying out for that [dinner with MJ]."
He expresses hope for a future meeting between the two legends.

[44:27] Baron Davis:
Defends Scottie Pippen's legacy while expressing concern over his recent comments, urging fans to support and respect Pippen's contributions.
"I'm a big Scotty fan... I just want to make sure Scottie good, man."

[48:43] Draymond Green:
Engages in a lighthearted yet competitive back-and-forth with Baron regarding the comparison between Scottie Pippen and players like LeBron James, emphasizing their unique contributions to the game.

9. Closing Thoughts and Final Debates

[73:06] Draymond Green:
Continues the debate on player comparisons, reinforcing the distinct roles and legacies of players like Scottie Pippen and LeBron James.
"Magic Johnson. The greatness of Scottie Pippen. Mix that all together, you get LeBron James."

[75:25] Draymond Green:
Wraps up the episode with anecdotes about past teammates and reflections on team chemistry and leadership.
"I was always trying to figure out how to make everybody comfortable and give them confidence."

Notable Quotes:

• Draymond Green at [02:18]:
  "We moved on, bro."
• Baron Davis at [04:00]:
  "You gotta let it go. At some point, you gotta."
• Draymond Green at [31:00]:
  "If you want a player of the year, you can't have two MVP awards."
• Baron Davis at [38:11]:
  "This week's player spotlight is Atlanta Hawks' own young fella Jalen Johnson..."
• Draymond Green at [42:32]:
  "Scottie is crying out for that [dinner with MJ]."

Conclusion

In this episode, Draymond Green and Baron Davis delve into a range of topics central to the current NBA landscape. They navigate personal accountability, team dynamics, coaching impacts, and player performances with insightful analysis and candid conversations. The discussion extends to broader basketball issues, including the effectiveness of new leagues and the legacy of basketball legends. Through engaging dialogue and reflective commentary, the duo provides listeners with a comprehensive and thought-provoking exploration of the game.