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The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Steph Curry BELONGS in NBA GOAT convo, Warriors 9-1 with Jimmy Butler
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Nikki Glaser
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- [00:36]
Mark Wahlberg
Hey guys, Mark Wahlberg here. You've heard me say it before, but I'm going to say it again. You guys have to check out Hallow. This Lent we are doing something really powerful. It's a 40 day prayer challenge for every day of Lent with Jonathan, Roomie, Father Mike Schmitz, and of course, yours truly. We are going through the incredible book the Way by St. Jose Maria Escriva. And I, along with my buddy Chris Pratt, will lead us through weekly fasting challenges. Join me and millions of others around the world praying every day this lent. Stay prayed up and God bless you.
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Julie Stewart-Banks
What's up, everyone? Julius Ripps here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.
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Nate Thompson
We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.
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Julie Stewart-Banks
The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.
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Nate Thompson
Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?
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Julie Stewart-Banks
Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.
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Nate Thompson
Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.
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Julie Stewart-Banks
Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Draymond Green
The volume. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green show with my brother, bd.
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Baron Davis
What's happening? What's up, big dog?
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Draymond Green
Just chilling, bro. You know, I'm just doing it. Before we get into the show, y'all remember to subscribe to the Draymond Green show with Baron Davis so you don't miss any episodes today.
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Baron Davis
We got a lot to cover, so let's get right into it. But don't forget to follow us on all social media. That's at Draymond Show Dub Nation. What's happening, birthday boy with the win, my dog. Damn near triple double. Okay?
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Draymond Green
You know what I mean? First house, garden.
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Baron Davis
You know what I'm saying? Come on.
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Draymond Green
Yo, you in the garden.
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Baron Davis
Steph. Another legendary performance. He 13 and one in the garden. By the way, if you count the games with Davidson, man, just how you feeling? Talk about I Love what I'm seeing. I love this triple double because, remember, I was like, dude, we gotta start stacking these double doubles for defensive player of the year. So, come on, man. How we doing? What are we talking about?
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Draymond Green
Feeling amazing, bro. Had the double double in Charlotte. Definitely should have had one last night. Probably a triple double. But I. That first half of them back to backs, man. Them legs being noodle in the first half of the back to backs, man. So I'm feeling good, man. I feel like I've been way more aggressive as of late, which. Which I feel very comfortable with. You know, having Jimmy has really unlocked more of the aggressiveness for me, because everything he's talking to me about is, yo, we need somebody getting to the rim. Get downhill, Go, go, go. So. And then, obviously, also the attention he draws, you know, it's opened up the floor and created different opportunities. So, you know, I feel like I'm playing well, though. But, man, that performance in the Garden last night, that was crazy. Steph put on the. Jimmy took over the game.
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Baron Davis
Yeah, you managed the game well.
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Draymond Green
I felt like I played pretty good.
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Baron Davis
You know, really good.
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Draymond Green
I feel like it's coming together for us, bro. Like, that was a big game for us, and obviously, they ain't had a cat, but the show, it's always fun playing in the Garden, man. And I didn't realize the success we've had. Like, I remember frequently went in there, but I didn't realize. Yeah, I dominate there, dominating there. That's impressive. You know, then Steve telling stuff, come on.
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Nikki Glaser
Yeah.
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Baron Davis
Then Steve telling me, come on, man. Hit the night. Night, Sally. Come on, man. What's all that about? Yeah. Yeah. I'm really. Y'all feeling it, though. I like it, man. Even after the game, Shaq was saying, I demand fans to start putting Steph in the go conversation. You've been talking about this. I agree. I believe that he's. He was the next evolution of a game changer and the evolution of the game. He should be in that conversation.
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Draymond Green
He 100% is in that conversation, and he 1000% belongs in that conversation. When you talk about what he's done, what he does on the basketball court, there's no one in the history of the NBA, and with all due respect to LeBron James, with all due respect to Michael Jordan, with all due respect to my favorite player of all times, the great Shaquille O'Neal, there's no one in the history of the NBA that has been schemed against and guarded the way Steph Curry is guarded I mean, you like, teams throw their whole defense at him. I've played in the NBA Finals against the Cleveland Cavaliers and got wide open layups, dunks in transition because he's running on the wing, and they'd rather go run and take the three away from him on the wing and give me a dunk. Kevin Durant, one of the greatest scorers we've ever seen, got wide open dunk straight down the lane. Because Steph Curry's on one wing, Klay Thompson on the other wing, and they just run. But Steph Curry, who I'm speaking about right now, the defense, the defenses that he's faced, still to this day, he's in year 16, and teams still throw three and four defenders at him on the given possession. You know, when you talk about how much he gets blitzed, like everything is designed to try to take this guy away because, you know, against some teams, you say, yo, let's let this guy do this and let's take everything else away. The game plan is never to let Steph just get his because you know how demoralizing it is. And then obviously impact on the game. The way the game of basketball is played, not in NBA. I said the game of basketball is played worldwide is because of Steph Curry.
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Baron Davis
For sure.
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Draymond Green
You tell me the game of basketball is modeled after how you play the game and what you were so special at that everybody thought that, yo, that's what we need to do. And you telling me that guy don't go in the goat conversation? Also tell me that Steve Jobs ain't one of the greatest CEOs that's ever walked this planet Earth either. Then tell me that too.
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Baron Davis
Then I always say goats travel in herds. So, you know, you can look at multiple different players and consider them, you know, a part of the greatest of all time. The greatest to ever do it. Like, people get into the debate about individual people, but I look at like the canvas, right? The NBA is the Lou. You know, Michael Michael Jordan may be the Michelangelo. And assisting Chap. Steph Curry comes along and becomes a Mona Lisa, right? Or, you know, so it is, you know, he. He definitely deserves, you know, his name in that conversation. And I think, you know, when you're talking about goat and go conversation, once again, you gotta talk about Mo. It's multiple people because it's multiple different positions, multiple errors. It's most like every five years, the league changed. Like we was talking about the face of the league the other day, right? And you know, the face of the league is consumed by he who wins, right? Or he who has the illest style. I think that stuff has transcended it, a whole new era. Like if you think about, you know, just the NBA and the NBA from an image perspective, the suburban kid has a chance to be great. You know, it never was there, you know, a time where, you know, the story reflect it. The story of struggle was always prevalent to someone's success in the NBA and never really was there like a middle class, you know, well, really upper class kid, right, who broke through the barriers. Not only that, not only an upper class kid, but the son of an NBA player breaking through that threshold. So I mean, you can say there was one, you know, players before which there were who made it to the league, but like not with this threshold, this impact. And so it created a whole new, you know, surge of NBA players, former NBA players, great college players, great street ball players. Now their kids is looking at, oh, look at this kid. You know, he looked like a dude that's, you know, at the jungle. Like I grew up at the jungle gym, right? He looked like, he looked like somebody. He looked like somebody that's in an art class, right? And there he is, one of the best players in the NBA. And so that, you know, is more recognizable, more relatable. And now, you know, every kid from every suburbs, from every hood is changing their style of game and changing even their Persona, right, to reflect more Steph Curry. And I think that's why you got a lot of great kids in this league, a lot of good people, right? And you know, you have that, you have that now broader family support and you know, people don't look at all the elements. So when it comes to, you know, being a game changer, what that does.
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Draymond Green
Due to Steph Curry's success and you just hit on it. I'm gonna take it a step further due to his success and clay, due to the level of success that Steph has had being a former or being the son of a former retired NBA player in Daniel Curry. It's not that there weren't guys before that were the son of NBA players, but you haven't seen them with this frequency. The amount NBA players that's in the NBA now, crazy with this frequency. And due to Steph's greatness, the NBA and basketball in general has become a rich kids sport. Basketball was for myself, a lot of other guys, we had a chance. It was our way out.
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Baron Davis
Yeah, we had a chance as a poor kid.
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Draymond Green
There's a hoop at the park up the street and you just need A basketball and we can go play, you know, we can play outside. And so as a poor kid, it was, it was a means and a way out for a lot of us. LeBron James, the poor kid, basketball was a way out and the Couriers were rare. Now it's more likely that Gilbert Arena's son is going to make it to the NBA. Trevor son is going to make it to the NBA. And they are better suited now to make it to the NBA than the kid from the neighborhood. It's flipped big time, bro.
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Baron Davis
Big time.
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Draymond Green
Because of the level of skill that Steph Curry possesses. Skill training has become so big. So training kids now and the training that these kids get now, it's expensive. We can guide them through. And we know trainers, we know, like Ronnie worked out with Chris Johnson when he was in high school, you know, like, we know the trainers. Yeah, son is trapped. Son probably going to go to the NBA because it's set up that way now where so much training. And the kid in the neighborhood now, he can't get that level of training.
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Baron Davis
You get to the train station, but you two days late. Everybody done took their trains and they routes. So the kid in the neighborhood. Our route used to be play at the park, play at the school or whatnot, then get discovered at the YMCA or the park league. Then somebody will say, yo, you want to play on all star team? You play on the all star team. It was like you worked your way up and you had to really like battle and fight to earn your seat on an AAU squad. Now those kids in the hood, they don't even have. Like, the kids is so rich that you can't even afford to access the tournaments to show like, man, I gotta. It used to be a team we used to play against called the Warriors. If I didn't play on my AAU team, I would've played for them. They was outta Watts and they would raise money and they would be in the same tournaments. And James Lee wind up becoming, you know, going to San Francisco. But like it was dudes, I grew up from my neighborhood, like, oh, like damn, they got a squad too. And they. And they can show up. Now you can't. Because if you ain't Nike, if you ain't Adidas, if you ain't Puma, like where do you, where do you go to get seen? And it's really like an access game now. So, you know, and I hate this. Basketball is becoming a one trick pony as far as stories. The type of talents you looking for, the type of player you looking for. And like, everybody. It's like becoming a factory. And it's not. It's not an art collective. Right. Like, we not appreciate. Like, nobody's. Everybody's the same. So, you know, and then that goes back to Steph Curry. Like, you know, look at that effect. Like, everybody. Every kid and every point guard, even every big man now is shooting threes. You know, there's always a gift and a curse, but I think the game being too expensive, disallows access to, you know, the next Draymond.
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Draymond Green
Right?
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Baron Davis
Yep, that's right. Because they ain't gonna go looking for no Draymond. That's a fact. And so we gotta. You know, we gotta keep. We gotta keep that same juxtaposition or that energy. Because the league is. Is not about just rich kids playing the sport. You know, That's a fact.
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Draymond Green
Every rich kid could be skilled, you know, and do all the skill training, but every rich kid ain't gonna have a dog. That Steph Curry, for sure.
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Baron Davis
No Steph Curry different. He programmed absolutely right. We had a conversation about this. What's the difference between, like, if somebody's a dog and somebody got skill? You can't dog a person who's highly skilled. And the person who's highly skilled probably has way more levels to be a beast and a monster than just you.
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Draymond Green
Being a dog and having that dog in you. If you got a guy that's highly skilled and he ain't got no dog, your mind is automatically going to be like, I'm gonna just bully him.
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Baron Davis
Yep.
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Draymond Green
Right. Like, I'm a bully him. And I'm not even going to allow you to access that skill. Cause I'm gonna just rough you up. I'm get like, you're gonna back down. Then once I get you to back down now, you don't even really want the ball because you don't want to deal with that. It always reverts back to that. And winning always reverts back to that. Because if you don't have the dog, everything else you're trying to accomplish, it gets thrown off track. But I would say for the kids. I just said it's a rich kid sport. For the kids that are like myself and like you, that's still coming from the neighborhood. You may not have the access to the type of training that, say, my son would have access to or your son would have access to. But being a musician, being an artist, like, BD Just said being an artist and figuring out the artistry of the game.
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Baron Davis
Yep.
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Draymond Green
You can Just do that. And guess what? They still make basketball courts. They still make basketballs. If you get your handle right, your game tight, work on that. Yeah, you may not be as strong when you get to a level. Trying to go to not being strong enough don't mean you can't be tough enough. Right? You may not be as strong, you may not test off the charts like somebody else will because of the training they had. That's fine, right? Master the game.
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Baron Davis
That's it.
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Draymond Green
Master the game. For the kid that don't have the access to all the stuff, if you just master the game and all that simply requires is going to the gym, going outside and dribbling the basketball, those still those things. Those who do that, that'll never go away. Any rim you can find outside don't matter if you put that work in as that young kid that ain't got nothing. There's still a path.
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Baron Davis
If you and I were growing up in today's era, right, the path would be a little easier because you have help along the way. So like we not discouraging, we saying like you will, they will fight. Talent will be found once you put the work in right. And the way the landscape is for basketball. Right. With nil, right. It give people like us growing up an opportunity to start taking care of our family even at an earlier age. So take care of that business. Take care of that in the knowledge too. Know people know, you know no players know their style, know what they play like, know what they shoot like how they run. All this is is. Is the beauty and the magic. Like I. I think about you a lot and what makes you a great defender is you know how people move. So you know when to get in front of them, you know how to defend them. You know when you need to get leverage, you know when you need to stand up, you know when he ain't gonna do nothing, right? Rudy Gobert, you know when to just jump and like it. When you, when you study people and you study their movements, that's how you really become a student of the game. I saw that picture of Pat with the bell courtside during the Knicks warriors game. You tweeted that you put a camera on Pat Chord side. What is he doing?
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Draymond Green
I'm telling you, man, I don't know. Maybe this need to be an idea for the new media. Somebody need to put Sid Patrick, Beverly Corsa. I got a lot of respect for Pat. Pat got it out the mud. And I also, I have even more respect for Pat because the. Pat was a scorer like, average 40. I made it to the NBA because I could score. Like, I didn't make NBA because I played defense.
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Baron Davis
No way.
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Draymond Green
I made it to the NBA because I could score. I made. I made all defense team at Michigan State my senior year. And my assistant coach, who I'm still tight with to this day, coach D.J. dwayne Stevens, he laughed in my face and said, man, they put you on that all defense team because your name Draymond Green.
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Baron Davis
Because you're nice in offense.
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Draymond Green
Yeah. And I was like, chill out, D. I was like, I'm a great helpside defender. I didn't even argue with him. I'm like, d, I'm great. Help side defender. He like, yeah, over helping. I used to over help crazy all the time like that. Like, there was no argument to even push back. I made it to the NBA because I could score, I could pass, and I could rebound. In order for me to play in the NBA, I had to figure out a role because they already had guys. I was a second round pick. They already had guys that was going to score, so that was never gonna be a role for me, Right? So I figure out a role. Once you figure out a role, you ain't about to go rap and then start singing like, you rap now. Like, go rap. And that's just kind of what it is. I had a lot of respect for Pat. He got it out the mud. And so I'm getting stops, and I'm talking to Pat, like, pat, I'm on all that. Like, you saw that? And I hear Pat like, yo, y'all need to do this, Dre, like, do this, do that. And I'm like, man, that's a good idea. Then I hear him, we in the zone. And he tell Landry Shammon where to go for the shot.
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Baron Davis
He over there coaching both teams.
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Draymond Green
Landry Shammon goes to where he tell him to go hit the three pad. I told you go right? Like, then the fan tell me, draymond, you are stupid. You're just stupid. And I caught his face. Oh, it's you. And I'm about to say, start going back at the fence. Pack fired off Dre. I got him. I got the belt in my hand. I turned around and look, this man really has a belt in his hand.
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Baron Davis
Hilarious.
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Draymond Green
That's a belt in my hand, Dre. Belt. Put the belt to ass. Like, from that. Like, all these moments he had during.
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Baron Davis
The game, bro, it was, like, epic.
- [21:55]
Draymond Green
If you had a camera on him and put that in a nine minute, it was pure comedy. That's hilarious coaching though, too. So for the average fan, like you're learning when you're listening and watching it, man, it was absolutely incredible. It was a pleasant surprise. Obviously. Didn't expect to see Pat Bev sitting courtside at a game with us with the Knicks. Pleasant surprise.
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Baron Davis
That bam is classic, bro.
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- [24:22]
Mark Wahlberg
Hey guys, Mark Wahlberg here. You've heard me say it before, but I'm going to say it again. You guys have to check out Hallow this lent we are doing something really powerful. It's a 40 day prayer challenge for every day of Lent with Jonathan, Roomie, Father Mike Schmitz, and of course, yours truly. We are going through the incredible book the Way by St. Jose Maria Scriva. And I, along with my buddy Chris Pratt, will lead us through weekly fasting challenges. Join me and millions of others around the world praying every day this Lent. Stay prayed up and God bless you.
- [24:50]
Julie Stewart-Banks
It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart podcast and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.
- [25:00]
Nate Thompson
I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about hockey.
- [25:08]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.
- [25:19]
Nate Thompson
We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.
- [25:29]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do. Provide an emotion, emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?
- [25:41]
Nate Thompson
I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.
- [25:43]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Baron Davis
All right, continuing with the crazy Steph Curry performances on February 27th versus the Magic, he went off of 5612 threes and he's done that on three different occasions. On February 27th. What? Which one to you is the best February 27th performance? The Orlando Magic one or the other two. Before 2016, he did. He had 46. He was 12 for 16 from the 3 on 2, 27 16. On 2, 27, 13. He had 54, 11 for 13 threes. Talk to me.
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Draymond Green
That was at the Garden. We lost that game. I think I'm almost certain that's the.
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Baron Davis
One on the 13th. Yeah, on the 13th. Right.
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Draymond Green
That's actually the one game where it said he 13 and one in the guard. That's actually the one game we lost. So I'm going to pick against that one. He also shimmy past me during that game. I'm standing there like this. And when he did this and when, that was also in that game. So I'm going to throw that game out. I'm gonna throw that one out. I gotta say, my favorite one was okc. There was so much that happened during that game. That game is also the game. Me and Steve Kerr got into it, and they reported it. Lisa Salters reported from, like, eavesdropping in our door, in our locker room, like, every word we said. Behind closed doors, she reported every word we said, which was insane. To Lisa's credit, she apologized. I hold no ill will towards Lisa. I actually love her. But that was crazy. All of that happened in that game. That's also the game. Steph hit the bomb, the Deep 3 right across half. So I gotta go with that game.
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Baron Davis
And then that was crazy.
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Draymond Green
You also got to know the history. That's 2016. We had just won a championship. Fast forward. This is also the year that we end up having to come back 3:1 against them. So, yeah, I have to understand where the NBA was and the dynamic, like, Steph versus Russ right now. These dudes have been at such a high level for such a long time, but at this time, you thought, like, this was Pete Powers. You didn't know that they end up that Russ ends up breaking the triple double record. Like, because he. Right at the time, he wasn't getting the triple doubles that frequently since 2016. So you have to understand, like, the dynamic in the NBA at this time. And then for him to have that performance hit that bomb with all of that going on, that's crazy. I gotta take February 27, 2016. Gotta take that one. But I'll tell you what. February 27 in America will be known moving forward as Steph Curry day.
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Baron Davis
Sign it up. Sign the petition now. All right, dude. One of the wildest calls I saw this week was the flagrant foul they called on you versus the Hornets, which I deem as. Because you're Draymond Green, that's the type of call you're gonna get. What did you say to the ref after that upgrade was made?
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Draymond Green
I don't even. I said so much to the refs when they even was gonna go review it, bro, I wasn't even looking that dude. And the referee only called the foul because he saw dude on the floor flopping. Like, I wasn't even looking at him. I literally just put my hand out to hit his chest to stop his progress moving forward.
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Baron Davis
Sounds like one of.
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Draymond Green
And so I could find the ball and go get the rebound.
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Baron Davis
But, you know, you got. You know, you got hands, like, shown up.
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Draymond Green
He ran straight into the mitt don't blame me. I thought it was crazy for them to go see the play, see that I'm not even looking at this dude, and still upgraded to a flag of five. That was crazy to me because I have been on the wrong end of a lot of elbows to the head. And the referee says, oh, but it wasn't intentional. But I still got elbowed in my head. Yeah, but it wasn't. So then I'm not looking at this dude, but y'all tell me when it's me on the wrong side of it, that it wasn't intended. They didn't mean to do it. I got tripped. It was either in Philly or Orlando. It was the beginning of the trip. I was rolling down the paint, bro. I got tripped. I fell so hard. I fell so hard. I was so mad because as I'm falling over, I'm looking at the referee eye to eye, watch me just get tripped and fall. I'm literally looking him eye to eye, watching me get tripped. And I felt so hard, I was so mad, I'm like, yo, you're not gonna call it. You just watch me get tripped. Yeah, you watch me. And he said to me, he was like.
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Baron Davis
I was surprised.
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Draymond Green
He didn't. No, he didn't try to trip you. I watched. I said, but I don't always try to file. Yeah, but if I file, I foul. It don't matter what I.
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Baron Davis
It don't matter. Hey, if you clumsy, you clumsy. You tripped somebody, you trip somebody.
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Draymond Green
I don't care if he tried to trip me or not. He tripped me. Oh, yeah. Dray Maheen tried to elbow you in the. Yeah, but he elbowed me in the head. I don't care what he tried to do. He elbowed me in the head. So if that's a flagrant one and I didn't try to. Why are all these times I get elbow in the head or rough, say, oh, it wasn't intentional. He ain't tried to. I don't understand that. I understand. I know why, right?
- [32:08]
Baron Davis
We're gonna let the ref slide on this one. I ain't even. The warriors are 9 and 1 with.
- [32:15]
Draymond Green
Jimmy Butler in the lineup.
- [32:17]
Baron Davis
To me, the most impressive win amongst those are this last victory against the Knicks. Just saying that. I was very impressed with that. Everybody had a solid game, and Steph had us, and Steph was. Stephen, what do you think is the most impressive win for you guys so far?
- [32:36]
Draymond Green
I would say last night, and I would say the Houston one right before break. Me and both of Them were on the back end of a back to back.
- [32:43]
Baron Davis
Oh man, you win that second game, that's, that's relief.
- [32:47]
Draymond Green
Absolutely. And in the NBA we call most of those scheduled losses, you know, like back to back. Tough. You getting in late as hell. Good team. Like those are tough. And you know, we, we're coming in on the back to back All Star break starts after the game. So you could mentally check out. Right. Like man, we let me get through this game and get the All Star. Like that could be your mindset. Yeah, we had just lost one and tough one the night before in Dallas. Kyrie went off also. Sending my love and well wishes to Kyrie.
- [33:21]
Baron Davis
To Kyrie. Man.
- [33:22]
Draymond Green
Damn recovery. But Kai had just went off coming in this young Houston team that if you remember the last time they beat us was this season.
- [33:33]
Baron Davis
But this season. Yeah.
- [33:35]
Draymond Green
Little sketch. Little sketch on a blooper.
- [33:38]
Baron Davis
On a blooper. Yeah, a couple mistakes.
- [33:41]
Draymond Green
So they feeling good and they young, you know what I'm saying? Like call us on the back to back and we go in and get that game to go into the break. So I say that one and I say this New York Knicks 1 was the two most impressive to me so far. You just get a boost of confidence and like a boost of the morale to go take that second one on the second night of a back to back. So, you know, it also still allows us to put ourselves in a position to have a great trip. Obviously we would have loved to be five and on the trip we let that Philly one get away.
- [34:17]
Baron Davis
Yeah, that was a tough one four.
- [34:19]
Draymond Green
One east coast trip. I don't think anybody complained.
- [34:21]
Baron Davis
No complaints here, my brother. But you also got the Pistons coming in town. You know the Pistons, one of my teams, one of my high teams to watch for for this year in the league. They're in sixth place and it looks like they'll have a first round matchup with the Knicks. You played against the Knicks? You know, it's Knicks tape with me all day. I love the Knicks. I did pick Detroit as my hot team coming out the East. Do you think the Knicks or the Pistons, who do you think will win in, in a playoff series if they started today?
- [34:58]
Draymond Green
The Pistons ain't never done it. I don't think New York's playoff noise. I think they got some things to figure out. But in saying that I don't know that the Pistons are, are like you need some experience in those playoffs.
- [35:17]
Baron Davis
War ready. Yeah.
- [35:19]
Draymond Green
I just don't know that they'll have enough experience now. Adding Dennis Schroeder is going to make difference and a big difference for them in the playoffs because he does. Everybody give Tobias Harris a lot of crap. Tobias has playoff experiences, so having those couple guys that does have playoff experience, I think could help them. I think it'll be a very tall task for them to beat the Knicks, though, if I'm honest. But I'll roll with Detroit.
- [35:52]
Baron Davis
Yeah, you gonna roll with Detroit for sure. It's something about it being your first playoffs that you like. Oh, man, I'm going for broke like that. You so prepared as a young dude. You so nervous that your energy is there, your attention to detail, like.
- [36:09]
Draymond Green
Like you don't even know to be nervous. You don't know what. Yeah, it's almost like a. For lack of a better term, it's like a level of dumbness that you have, a level of ignorance that you have.
- [36:22]
Baron Davis
Yeah.
- [36:22]
Draymond Green
That you don't even know what to expect. And so a guy who's been through it could get more nervous because they know what to expect where they're out there damn near dumbfounded because we never been here. What we got to lose. Oh, well, right. And that definitely could work. I agree with you. That can work to the Pistons advantage. And then I'll tell you another thing. Isaiah Stewart gonna. Gonna. He gonna bully cat like he gonna make it.
- [36:52]
Baron Davis
He'll try to.
- [36:53]
Draymond Green
He would make it his mission for a playoff series where you gotta see this dude possibly 7 games in a row. He would make it his mission. The bully cat. Will he be successful in doing it? I mean, that's what Isaiah Stewart does.
- [37:08]
Baron Davis
That's where somebody who's highly skilled, like, man, I ain't even worried about that bullshit. Like, you can be a dog all you want. You still can't stop. It could work to cast advantage, too.
- [37:19]
Draymond Green
It could 100%. You could use it against him. You know what I'm saying? So you have to see how those matchups play out. But I think those would be key things to watch in this matchup. And then who's going to be better out of Kaden and Jalen Brunson.
- [37:34]
Baron Davis
Yep.
- [37:34]
Draymond Green
Jalen Brunson has the experience. But I'm going to tell you what Cade has that Jalen Brunson don't have. His size.
- [37:41]
Baron Davis
Yeah.
- [37:42]
Draymond Green
Size at 6, 7. He get into them playoffs and Cade getting to where he want to go and you ain't speeding him up. That can make a big difference in the playoff series because they're dialed in on exploiting these one or two or three Things in the game. And Cade, Cade different man.
- [38:04]
Baron Davis
So he don't care that he hasn't been there before. He knows, like, this is my moment. Like, we can get them move around.
- [38:13]
Draymond Green
The league a little bit before we get out of here. Bron passed 50,000 points.
- [38:18]
Baron Davis
Wow.
- [38:19]
Draymond Green
Regular season and playoffs combined is absolutely insane for a guy. It's insane for anybody. It's obviously never been done, but it's absolutely insane for a guy that is not considered a scorer.
- [38:34]
Baron Davis
A score, right.
- [38:36]
Draymond Green
Is pretty crazy, but just goes to show you how I actually think throughout the course of Bron's career, he could have scored way more points than he actually has.
- [38:47]
Baron Davis
Absolutely.
- [38:48]
Draymond Green
I think he just always has such a level of unselfishness and a will and want to win that the points never really even mattered to him, which is possibly why people don't. They don't matter to people because they never really mattered to him. He was just going to score enough points to make sure they win the game, but never to try to break some scoring records or something like that. And that's what I think makes it even all the more impressive. Like, how great you actually have, like, got a mechanical. To not focus on scoring, to not be labeled as a scorer, but have 50,000 points is insane. So number one, Bron, congrats, my brother.
- [39:28]
Baron Davis
Congrats.
- [39:29]
Draymond Green
Well done, man. Just continuing to watch this brother's greatness and it's like, it's crazy because I think he keep getting better at basketball.
- [39:39]
Baron Davis
Yeah.
- [39:39]
Draymond Green
Just don't really make sense to me. Like how bro, 40 years old, still getting better at basketball. But, you know, he high level. At a very high level. He always credit his sustained performance throughout his career to love for the process. And one thing I will ask you, you know, we talked about the gold debate with stuff earlier. Do you think Luca's arrival has infused some energy in Bruh and like, like pushed his game to another level? And not that he needed Luka to push him to another level, but just kind of. What's your thoughts on that one?
- [40:20]
Baron Davis
We're starting to see LeBron fall into number A, comfortable number two. Like, we've only seen LeBron be number one. There is no one A, there is no one B.
- [40:36]
Draymond Green
There's.
- [40:37]
Baron Davis
There was never that. LeBron has always been numero uno. To see LeBron as the number one guy, be the number two guy is very scary because it puts him back into his number one position when he was young. Right. And when you talk about his scoring, I say he's a mechanical scorer. Right. He scores when necessary. Oh, you're about to go up 10. No, I'm taking that shot. Like, he. He is a scientist when it comes to how he plays the game. And then also LeBron, he could have came into the league and said, I want to be a scorer and had a total different game. And it's. And with the same outcome. Right. Just because who he is. But I think Luca, right. To answer your question, Luca is like, oh, man, I got another five. What I'm loving about the league right now, okay. The warriors got three years. Four these next five years. The warriors, okay, see, y'all got the next five years to do something. Boston, you just came off of one. You got the next five years to do something. Right. But then you got all these veteran teams. Denver, you getting older. You about to turn the corner. Clippers, what are you going to do? Lakers, you got Luca. Minnesota, you got, like, Phoenix. And what's going to happen with, you know, with Katie and what they got with Phoenix. So all these bet teams that made each trades and got better, like, they're in a now win situation.
- [42:19]
Draymond Green
Yeah.
- [42:19]
Baron Davis
So I think that ups LeBron's ante. Like, hold on, let me show Luca. Hey, bro, you just do what you do. I got the rest. And that's. And it's been different than a Kyrie, than a D. Wade, than a Chris Bosh. Right. Because Luka can do what LeBron does.
- [42:39]
Draymond Green
Yep. This is the first time in LeBron's career where he's been able to run and play off the ball and people make plays for him. He's ever really played with anyone that could, like, really make plays for him. And so he's running and getting layups in transition. He's getting back door cuts, like random cuts, because it's someone that can create for him.
- [43:06]
Baron Davis
Totally.
- [43:07]
Draymond Green
I think that has made him take a step back and be like, whoa. Like, this is actually a lot easier. He's enjoying doing it, it looks like. And so I think it definitely can infuse some more years into his career because he just. He. He just got stuff. Looks the same way with Jimmy coming, right? Like, yeah, yeah. Just look like they found some relief.
- [43:32]
Baron Davis
Yeah, bro. Yeah.
- [43:36]
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- [44:12]
Mark Wahlberg
Hey, guys, Mark Wahlberg here. You've heard me say it before, but I'm going to say it again. You guys have to check out Hallow. This Lent, we are doing something, something really powerful. It's a 40 day prayer challenge for every day of Lent with Jonathan Roumie, Father Mike Schmitz, and of course, yours truly. We are going through the incredible book the Way by St. Jose Maria Escriva. And I, along with my buddy Chris Pratt, will lead us through weekly fasting challenges. Join me and millions of others around the world praying every day this Lent. Stay prayed up and God bless you.
- [44:41]
Julie Stewart-Banks
It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.
- [44:51]
Nate Thompson
I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.
- [44:58]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the energy line.
- [45:10]
Nate Thompson
We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.
- [45:19]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?
- [45:31]
Nate Thompson
I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.
- [45:34]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [45:45]
Draymond Green
We had KD on last week and you know, he just talked about how the Suns have to play hard. He didn't get into it with Budenhozer, which I make nothing of, but he came out and responded and played hard and on both sides of the ball. And when he made that decision, you can see the game start to change. And I had tweeted about K because I watched him do it defensively, offensively. I watched him talking to guys. I watched him big up guys. I watched him take it on everything on his own shoulders and will them to that win. Yeah, because if they lose that game, it's over. I tweeted. I said it was one of the more impressive performances I've seen from K, and I've seen K have 54, 52, whatever, all these. But it ain't about the points. It's about his demeanor. It's about how he went about bringing that team back. And it was glaringly noticeable to me. You know, he has spoke about how they needed to play hard and different things. They have a 23 point comeback last night versus the Clippers, and I think that was a prime example of the way that they're going to need to play if they could spark this run and, you know, and can. Can this game ultimately be a spark for them, which you hope so if you're them. Right. Like, you hope that. All right, man, we just had this one. Now let's build on it. They got an uphill battle to fight for sure.
- [47:17]
Baron Davis
Yeah, they do. And this was the first time I really seen him angry. You know, usually kd, when he play, he upset. He be talking shit. You know, he going at different people. This. This comeback was. He was. He was angry. He was like. He lost himself in the game. And I think that's what Phoenix got to do. They got to stop coming to the game with a chip on their shoulder thinking like, there are. They are the target because they got kd, they caught Devin Booker, they got scores. They need to start being angry about, hey, we. This may not happen. And so they have to have more desperate measures. And I seen. I seen angry Katie when he did that to Bud, it was like, man, all right, I'm about to show you, bro. Like, get off me. I need to stay in the mode that I'm in. And it was. To me, it was refreshing to see that.
- [48:11]
Draymond Green
Yeah, I don't think it was anything. Coaches and players had their moments all the time. I think if you had a camera on a bench, in a huddle at every moment, you'd see these more often than not. That's just what happens. I think people try to make a big deal out of everything because everybody needs storylines. Yeah, KD loves the process of being coached, working on his game. All the pureness of basketball is what KD actually loves. One thing I can assure you, Katie, ain't a coach arguer. Like, he ain't gonna. He'll every now and then he gonna, like, stand his ground. You know what I'm saying? Like, of course, but he not just going to get into it with the coach. He not a player. That's like, think he's bigger than being coach? Nah, none of that. You know what I'm saying? So what I know from had they live moment and they moving on. If KD could do. Played this game in the NBA and what he's doing and only deal with the pureness of the game. He played for another 10 years.
- [49:19]
Baron Davis
No, for sure. And sometimes you just don't want to be touched. Especially if somebody talking to you don't touch me, right? But like talking to me and touching me at the same time, like, I don't feel like being touched right now. Right. And when you're in the heat of the moment, it's just. It's just that it's nothing more but just, you know, that angst, that anxiety that, you know, that frustration.
- [49:42]
Draymond Green
Before we get out of here, man. You know, we mentioned Kyrie earlier. Acl obviously another blow to the Mavs and their fan base, who's kind of been going through it over the last month or so.
- [49:57]
Baron Davis
Damn.
- [49:58]
Draymond Green
Like, I. I don't. I don't have many words because Kai is just one of them dudes, man.
- [50:04]
Baron Davis
He's my guy.
- [50:05]
Draymond Green
He loved playing basketball.
- [50:08]
Baron Davis
He loves hooping, happy.
- [50:09]
Draymond Green
He is where he is in his life. You know, he's got his wife and his kids, you know what I'm saying? But, man, like, Kai hadn't figured it out, you know what I'm saying? His game, his balance, who he is. And to go through this, hate to see it, hate to see it. Send my love, well wishes, speedy recovery. You just hate to see that happen. But I will ask you, what was your thoughts on him staying out there and shooting those free throws?
- [50:40]
Baron Davis
That's just love. That's just Will, you know, I love Kyrie game. One of my favorites all time. And to see his maturity this year, you know, his leadership, you know, with that team, even through the trade and all that. And, you know, I just hate seeing people get injured, period, Dre, you know, Cause my career ended on an injury. But I do believe. And I know he got, you know, the family support and he got the will to come back and he got the game, you know, to come back after a torn ACL and. And be even better or just as effective playing at a high level because of who he is and, and just the skills, right? High, high, high, high level of skill, right? You just got to get back to getting strong. And, you know, I just. It. It's almost like. Like one of these, you know, when he shot the two free throws, like, you're a real one, bro. But we understand, you know, 1,000%.
- [51:43]
Draymond Green
You know, I had. I actually had the opportunity to see Kobe.
- [51:49]
Baron Davis
Oh, he was in that game. Yeah, Game.
- [51:52]
Draymond Green
But then obviously Clay shoot those after tearing his acl, you know what I'm saying? It's just like a. Just respect you have for those guys because, man, when you. When I can only imagine going through those injuries, I've gotten injured. Not like that. No, knock on wood. But like, anytime you have any injury on the court, the last thing you're thinking about is, man, I need to go shoot these two free throws. Like, you're immediately like, how bad is it? Like, hey, like, the pain, you know, you're processing so much. And so I just applaud them, you know, on that love, that love for the game that they have to, you know, have those moments. And then I also think that there's a level of I don't know how this recovery is going to go. I don't know, you know, when I'll be back on the floor. But if this is it, you remember I shot my free throws before I left.
- [52:47]
Baron Davis
Totally.
- [52:48]
Draymond Green
And I can respect that. Speedy recovery. To Kai, man. Get well, bro.
- [52:52]
Baron Davis
Blessings, bro.
- [52:53]
Draymond Green
Game will miss you, but the game will welcome you back with open arms with that level of talent that Kyrie has. Till next time, that's a wrap. Draymond Green show with BD and all the isms.
- [53:14]
Baron Davis
The isms live. The big dog, Draymond Gray. So we out.
- [53:22]
Draymond Green
Peace. The volume.
- [53:29]
Nikki Glaser
This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glazer Podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out, and you can learn more by following OTs upwithhate.
- [53:55]
Mark Wahlberg
Hey, guys, Mark Wahlberg here. You've heard me say it before, but I'm gonna say it again. You guys have to check out Hallow. This Lent, we are doing something really powerful. It's a 40 day prayer challenge for every day of Lent with Jonathan Roumie, Father Mike Schmitz, and of course, yours truly. We are going through the incredible book the Way by St. Jose Maria Escriva. And I, along with with my buddy Chris Pratt, will lead us through weekly fasting challenges. Join me and millions of others around the world praying every day this Lent. Stay prayed up and God bless you.
- [54:24]
Julie Stewart-Banks
What's up, everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.
- [54:28]
Nate Thompson
We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.
- [54:31]
Julie Stewart-Banks
The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.
- [54:34]
Nate Thompson
Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?
- [54:40]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.
- [54:43]
Nate Thompson
Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.
- [54:48]
Julie Stewart-Banks
Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.