Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode Title: The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Zach Edey Altercation Explained, Will Wemby Impact the NBA like Steph, Derrick Rose Stories & Gelo Ball’s New Track
Release Date: January 8, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Introduction and Housekeeping

The episode kicks off with Draymond Green and Baron Davis exchanging New Year's greetings and discussing their personal lives, setting a relaxed and engaging tone for the show.

Beef with Zach Edey and Memphis

Baron Davis initiates the discussion by questioning whether there's genuine animosity between Draymond Green and Zach Edey or if it's merely a rivalry stemming from the Warriors and Memphis interactions.

Draymond Green explains that while there's competitive respect, there's no real beef:

"No, there's no real beef with Zach, Edey and Memphis."
(03:50)

He delves into how playoff matchups create temporary strife, but overall, it's based on mutual respect and past competition:

"There's a competitive respect amongst us that they get up for us, and we get up for them."
(08:08)

Referee Bias Against Rookies

A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the perceived bias of referees towards rookies compared to veteran players. Draymond expresses frustration over referees being harsher on younger players, which he believes disrupts the game's integrity and competitive balance.

Draymond Green criticizes the inconsistency in foul calls:

"They get flagrant fouls over a rookie and not over a veteran player, and that's messing up the game."
(10:10)

Baron adds that this inconsistency prevents young players from developing the necessary grit and rivalry essential for the sport:

"Basketball is a game of space... We gotta loosen up that... Because you don't have no rivalry."
(11:09)

Impact of Wemby vs. Steph Curry

Baron Davis poses a question about whether Wemby (Anthony Wemby) can impact the NBA similarly to Steph Curry. The duo engages in a debate, with Baron acknowledging Wemby's potential but Draymond expressing skepticism.

Baron Davis highlights Wemby's unique skill set:

"He is the actual first player you've ever seen in your life that was created on 2K."
(33:53)

In contrast, Draymond Green argues that Wemby's impact won't parallel Curry's due to the latter's self-made skills and universal appeal:

"Steph's ability with his hands and his hand-eye coordination is unmatched. Wemby can't replicate that."
(30:50)

Baron counters by suggesting that Wemby's roots in a competitive environment and his evolving game could position him as a future game-changer:

"He got the freedom to do that with a little bit of meanness in his personality."
(43:16)

Jimmy Butler’s Suspension

The conversation shifts to Jimmy Butler's recent seven-game suspension. Baron Davis shares insights into potential reasons behind the suspension, speculating on internal team dynamics and Butler’s emotional state.

Baron Davis speculates on Butler's emotions affecting his play:

"Somebody who plays on his emotions and his attitude... it's hard to play."
(47:15)

Draymond Green questions the length of the suspension and its implications:

"Why seven? Why so long?"
(54:18)

They discuss the possibility of Butler being traded or the Heat organization opting to let him go, emphasizing the complexities of managing high-profile players with strong personalities.

Detroit Pistons’ Improvement

Baron Davis commends the Detroit Pistons for their cultural and performance transformation, highlighting young talents like Cade Cunningham and the strategic leadership of GM Trajan Langdon.

Baron Davis praises Cade Cunningham’s growth:

"He is an All-Star having an All-Star year... he's leading them by hitting big shots and making passes."
(61:12)

Draymond Green lauds the Pistons' current trajectory and the organization's potential:

"They have salary cap space, they got draft picks, they got everything you need to head in the right direction."
(57:54)

Derrick Rose’s Legacy

The episode honors Derrick Rose, celebrating his career achievements and his recent jersey retirement. Both hosts share personal anecdotes reflecting Rose's impact on the game and his resilience overcoming injuries.

Baron Davis reflects on Rose’s influence:

"He carried the city of Chicago. Derrick Rose is a Hall of Famer. He's one of them ones."
(80:44)

Draymond Green recounts his experiences and admiration for Rose's perseverance:

"Derrick Rose handled being traded with such grace... he's a Hall of Famer."
(80:36)

Fun Segment: Pro Wrestling Tag Team and Jello’s New Song

The hosts lighten the mood with playful questions about hypothetical pro wrestling tag teams and discuss Gelo Ball's new track. They humorously envision themselves as a tag team named "The Dog Pound" with "Atomic Dog" as their walkout song.

Baron Davis on their tag team identity:

"It'll be Atomic Dog. And we would be called the Dog Pound."
(81:31)

They also touch upon Jelo Ball's foray into music, expressing curiosity and amusement over his new release.

Conclusion

Draymond Green and Baron Davis wrap up the episode with mutual appreciation and plans to listen to Jelo Ball's track, ending on a high-energy note.

Notable Quotes Summary

• Draymond Green on Zach Edey and Memphis Rivalry:
  "There's no real beef with Zach, Edey and Memphis."
  (03:50)

• Draymond Green on Referee Bias:
  "They get flagrant fouls over a rookie and not over a veteran player, and that's messing up the game."
  (10:10)

• Baron Davis on Wemby's Potential:
  "He is the actual first player you've ever seen in your life that was created on 2K."
  (33:53)

• Draymond Green on Wemby vs. Steph Curry:
  "Steph's ability with his hands and his hand-eye coordination is unmatched. Wemby can't replicate that."
  (30:50)

• Baron Davis on Detroit Pistons’ Future:
  "He is an All-Star having an All-Star year... he's leading them by hitting big shots and making passes."
  (61:12)

• Baron Davis Celebrating Derrick Rose:
  "He carried the city of Chicago. Derrick Rose is a Hall of Famer. He's one of them ones."
  (80:44)

Conclusion: This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers an in-depth and dynamic discussion between Draymond Green and Baron Davis, covering a range of topics from player rivalries and refereeing biases to emerging stars and honoring legends like Derrick Rose. Their candid conversations, enriched with personal anecdotes and insightful analysis, provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of current NBA narratives and the intricate dynamics that shape the league.