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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Adnan Virk
What's up, everybody? Adnan Vir here to tell you about a new podcast. It's NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers.
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Jason Demers
Jason Demers here. And after playing 700 NHL games, I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.
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Adnan Virk
I got a lot to say here, too.
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Simon Hunter
Okay?
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Adnan Virk
Each week we'll get together to chat about the sport that we love.
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Jason Demers
Tons of guests are going to join in, too. But we're not just going to be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies, we're talking tv, food, and Adnan's favorite wrestling. It's all on Le table.
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Adnan Virk
Listen to NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Justin Penick
What's up, everyone? It's Justin Penick from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week. On Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be GLAD you did.
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A.J. Stephens
$1.4 billion in NFL quarterback contracts. The untold stories behind the biggest deals in football history. I'm AJ Stephens, Vice president of Client strategy at Athletes first, introducing the Athletes First Family podcast, the Quarterback series. My co host Brian Murphy, Athletes first CEO, and I are sitting down with the agents who have negotiated contracts for Justin Herbert, Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott, Tua Tugovailoa and Jordan Love. Listen to Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Chad Millman
Welcome to the favorites the podcast presented by bet365. We are part of the volume podcast network. Live from our Tommy John Home studios. I am Chad Millman of the Action Network this is our Sunday night conference championship round episode. What a day of conference championship games it was. We will review the results of our bets from the day preview the early lines for the super bowl between the Kansas City Chiefs and Simon Hunter's Philadelphia Eagles. I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, my bff, professional better Simon Hunter and also. I'm in.
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Simon Hunter
Chad, how we doing, brother?
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Chad Millman
Your Philadelphia Eagles are in the super bowl, man. They are playing the Kansas City Chiefs. What an amazing game between the Bills and the Chiefs. We will get to that. We will get to the Eagles commanders. We'll get to the early look at our super bowl take in a second. The Chiefs opened as one and a half point favorites. We loved the Eagles at minus six today. Never a sweat, kind of. We love the Chiefs at minus one and a half. And the money line. That game was everything we were hoping it would be. We're having a really nice run here in the playoffs. We also both had huge, huge future bets involving the Chiefs and the Eagles. I had the matchup at 28 to 1, so this was a particularly enjoyable sweat. You have the Chiefs beating the Eagles at 55 to 1, but you got so many futures in this matchup that you're feeling pretty great. Just give me your first reaction to the Eagles being in the super bowl right now.
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Simon Hunter
So many emotions. You know, it is brother. It's like you can't believe it. You fall in love with your team, especially your home team and it's the best. It's really the best. And it's the best feeling because you know that nothing lasts forever like it, it. You could just be the bottom of the league for the next 23 years, which a lot of die hard Eagles fans are in their 50s and 60s. That's what most of their life was. It's only been recent that the Eagles have been this type of team that you know, can even make these type of runs. So yeah, pretty surreal being in the sports book. Obviously it's Philadelphia dominant because the area I live in, you know, like literally was in the city at the books. And the amount of just grown men crying, that's. That's the funniest feeling because you just know everyone, you know, we're all fans, we bet on these teams, but we also deep down it's like, you know, your fan first is, you know, the money. Someone like me, I don't mind betting against it because it's like it's part of my job. But the normal fan, the everyday worker you know, that was, that was, you know, everything for them. So yeah, I'm going to enjoy it because I know what's up ahead. I'm playing the Chiefs and I know that this could just be my Super Bowl. Winning the NFC in itself in the Pat Mahomes air is a Super bowl just because this man is so dominant. But yeah, right now, you know, sitting on a 50 burger, what the Eagles just did, it's like I'm just going to enjoy it. High scoring game ever. Most points ever scored by a team. The championship game in NFL history. So pretty, pretty special group this team.
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Chad Millman
Double nickel for the Philadelphia Eagles. And let's also like feel so bad for Matt Mitchell. Like, I don't know if that's what losing regular looked like in his head. That, that catch at the end was so much closer. We'll get to it. Yeah, let's, let's line it up here. Catch every episode of the favorites live on YouTube. For those ENJ on YouTube, don't forget to give us a like and subscribe to the Action Network YouTube page. As a a reminder, the Favorites podcast is presented by bet365 and now new bet365. Customers get $150 in bonus bets when you bet $5. Sign up using promo code Favorites Deposit $10 Place a bet for $5 to get $150 in bonus bets. Those bonus bets can be used on spreads, totals, player props, futures and more. Whatever the moment, it's Never ordinary. At bet 365 must be 21 or older and present in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia or 18 and older in Kentucky. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- GAMBLER or 1-800-BITS OFF in Iowa. Terms Conditions restrictions apply before we get to the games. This is really fun. People love what we're about to do here. We have the new bet365 Super bowl prop contest. This is, this is a tradition going back to when I started behind the bets at ESPN with bookmaker Bob Scoochie. The OGs of the podcast will remember this if you're new to the show. It is, it is such a fun contest. So what happens is we will ask you to send your custom bet live and ready to accept action on bet365. You have a chance to get your super bowl prop up on bet365 board. I put that in quotes. You just got to follow some simple rules. Okay. The the the bets must adhere to state gaming commission regulations. Every part of the bet must be settled on the field of play. No. Will they show Taylor Swift on TV kind of stuff? It must be on the field of play. In the box sport in the box sport kind of stuff. The winning submissions always have a clever name. For example, last year the winner was Will Brock Purdy score an octopus the touchdown plus a two point conversion. The prop was called the Brock Tapus eight years ago for the Falcons Patriots. The winner was a prop about Matt Ryan passing stats called the Millennium Falcon. The winner gets an Action Network prize, a chance to come onto the show. Talk to me and Simon about it. The pick will go live on the BET365 website. Email those submissions podcasts@actionnetwork.com Matt Mitchell do we have a podcasts. Sorry, do we have a deadline? Email podcastsctionnetwork.com do we have a deadline of when people have to get these up?
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Simon Hunter
We have to submit to BET365 for approval on Friday. So you'll have this episode in our Tuesday and Thursday episode. But make sure to get those in early enough. And I don't care if you submit 100 of them as long as they.
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Chad Millman
All adhere to the Gaming Commission rules.
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Simon Hunter
So get them in. We love them.
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Chad Millman
It's a phenomenal contest. People go like real people are going to bet on these. You're going to get real action on this and it's super fun. All right. Eagles were six point favorites. They were our big balls bet of the week. It was a fascinating day to day. Simon we pointed this out several times and I talked about this on the Herd with Colin. The public was all over the underdog, lower seeds on the road against the most dominant defense in the NFL and against the greatest quarterback other than Tom Brady who's ever lived. In this first game preponderance of tickets on Jaden Daniels, which is why it sort of became our big balls bet of the week. One of the key factors for us. We thought Jalen Carter against the interior of the commander's offensive line, especially without Sam Cosby was going to be a factor. He blew up the first play of the game against the replacement. But what a game this was. I mean there's so much to unpack here. Saquon, the way he audibled. Jalen audibled into that first play that he ran for 60 yards in a touchdown. My feeling about the Eagles is they left a lot of opportunities on the field and there was a moment where it felt like we were gonna not lose this game, but maybe not cover this game.
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Simon Hunter
No, everyone loved Washington, like you were saying, coming to this game and you know, it's that Jason Kelsey song, no one likes us. No one likes us. We don't care. Which is actually Premier League song. That Eagles fan just basically stole and made it their own. But it's the truth. No one liked the Eagles. Everyone was just betting. The commanders, they're trying to find reasons. They're. I mean, we joked about they kind of were grasping that straw as it was like none of that stuff was logical. The only thing he kept going back to was, well, they have the better quarterback. Which hard to argue about after watching that kid just playing that game. I mean, it is incredible how good Jane Daniels is. And you know that type of game where that opening drive, they go 3 for 3 on fourth downs and for some reason the coach kicks the field goal. I honestly breathed like a sigh of relief and it was just like, okay, they are a little scared here because that to me was like a really shocking moment where it was. You had the Eagles exhausted on their first drive.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
And he kicks the three like you said, first play, touchdown Barkley. And basically, you know, like I said, I was at the book. I turned the guy next to me. It's like this, this game, if they can't stop Barkley, they're, They're. They're basically what we talked about. They're dead. Like they're going to have to stack the box. Which honestly is what the Eagles don't mind teams doing because they can't go over top of them and they haven't had to because the run game has been so strong. And yeah, that brutal. Beat anyone that had his over prop. I think he finished with 118. Three touchdowns obviously goes under. But you know, what we talked about kind of played out that Eagles, one of the best running teams in all football. Washington, one of the worst rushing defenses in football. You know, Eagles had seven rushing touchdowns in this game.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
Again, not the Dallas Cowboys.
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Chad Millman
Will Shipley had a rushing touchdown.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. Dallas Cowboys had six rushing touchdowns all season. The Eagles had seven in one game. And you know, it's. People talk about, you know, Jaylen Herz, they badmouth them. And I've realized, like I really did this the other day that I don't know if you remember the movie Shallow House. Chad.
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Chad Millman
Yeah. Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
Eagles fans are literally shallow. How with our quarterback, like, to us he's a 10. To everyone else they see a 2 or a 3. But to us he's an absolute 10 in every way. And it's like he just Wins. And in that game, you know, he had a couple big time throws and it's just like, I get why people hate him, I get why they hate the Eagles, but it's like he's been to two Super Bowls and people just disrespect his name. As if Tua could be doing the same thing for this Eagles team. And it's just, it's not logical. So, yeah, I'm happy he showed out big. And it's like, I can't believe it, 50, 55 points in a championship game against, you know, a divisional rival that I expect to be facing for the next five to 10 years. It's, it's a great feeling and it played out exactly how we talked, Chad. So it feels good to know the fans got the over and they got the Eagles minus six.
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Chad Millman
So let me ask you this because I have so many thoughts on Jalen Hurts. I thought he was having one of the best games I've seen him have maybe since the super bowl against the Chiefs. You know, he was up and down.
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Simon Hunter
He went ham in that Pittsburgh game in December. But I get where you're coming from.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, like, you know, and he was, when he was decisive, he was accurate, he was making good throws. But there were so many times he is a heart attack in the pocket if he is not getting it out quickly. You know, he is running backwards, he's running in circles. And I thought Tom Brady did a really good job of pointing out many times where he didn't throw the ball when he had the guy a step open or an opportunity where you just gotta let it go. And I want your take, like as a fan and as someone who is a football expert. Is that an issue? Why do you think he does that? Like, is it an Achilles heel? Am I looking too much into it? Don't laugh at me. It's real.
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Simon Hunter
It's just, it's hard to take it serious where it's like, he's in the super bowl, you know.
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Chad Millman
Yes, he's in the super bowl. But, but, but they left so many my notes on that game where they kept leaving opportunities on the field and, and when, when they were, when they were up 3423 and Jake Daniels had the ball. You can't tell me that you felt like that game was in the bag. It was not in the bag. If Austin Eckler doesn't fumble, I am not really confident that the Eagles are going to be able to stop Jaden Daniels on that drive. I was doing the Gambler's Math. Like I had the Eagles four and a half because we bet them, you know, right away last Sunday I'm like, holy shit. I'm not even going to cover the four and a half after being up like 18 points because I had so much, so little faith in the Eagles ability to stop Jaden Daniels when he started to get on a roll. If not for that fumble, I'm laughing.
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Simon Hunter
Because they scored 55 points. They didn't have a defensive touchdown or a special team.
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Chad Millman
They went on a huge role.
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Simon Hunter
I know, but it's like a role.
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Chad Millman
Because they dominated on the ground.
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Simon Hunter
Listen, you want perfection and you're just, you're barking up the wrong tree. That's just not, it's not real what you're looking for in life and especially here in football, brother. It's like, yeah, do I want Jalen hurts to be 27 of 28 pass today would have been pretty sweet.
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Chad Millman
Chad, didn't I say he had a great game? I said it was probably the best.
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Simon Hunter
I know, but you're saying, are you worried that he's not forcing it in there? It's like you haven't figured it out yet. Jaylen Herz's whole job is not to lose the game. That's has been his job this entire season. This is Saquan Barkley's team. And you talk to anyone in the Eagles, they tell you the same thing. He's the best athlete we have. He's generational, he's once in a lifetime type of guy. And it's like, that's what this team is. Don't, don't let hurts beat you. Let the other team make the mistakes. And they did. So, yeah, Jaden Daniels, you watched him today making all these big time throws. It's like, yeah, that's just not Hertz game Hurts is a second round pick. The guy has weaknesses, but he plays in the system. He's incredible. It's like you can fight, you can question it, but it's like the biggest stat that matters is wins. And there's a bunch of nerds out there that say wins aren't QB stats have it. Have those people, okay, like enjoy not winning games and having a QB like Justin Herbert. It's. I'm happy for you. Like live, live on a. Drink it in. I want a guy like Hertz that wins games and he can, you know, in those tight moments, he makes big time throws and big time plays like that AJ Brown throw everyone's balls like you. Same thing you're talking about. Everyone got tight it went into your stomach like, oh my God. Fourth down. Hertz has taken a shot down 30 yards downfield. We haven't seen that in what, a month? You throw the ball 30 yards downfield. So I'm with you, Chad. It's. It's never easy. But yeah, as an Eagles fan and some of that bet heavy on them today, I just laugh because it's like that was the perfect game. They could play like Jayden Daniels. Like you said, he was so good. He finished their team finishes with 23 points. And that kid played really well in that game.
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Chad Millman
That's how dominant this Eagles team is with 23 points. And I feel like his completion percentage might not have been above 55%, 60%.
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Simon Hunter
But yeah, I know you're coming from.
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Chad Millman
No, no, I think, I think he was like, what was he, 27 to 45?
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Simon Hunter
Like it was 29 to 48.
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Chad Millman
So like, he's crazy.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it's crazy.
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Chad Millman
Amazing. But the Eagles defense, when they had to lock it down, they did. And I think I really can't wait to talk about this Chiefs game against the Eagles. And I'm so excited to break it down for two weeks. Like we got a dream match up here with a line that is one and a half. Maybe moving to two in some places because the juice is already in that direction. Moneyline in some places was 120 and now it's up to 125. The prop for Saquon in the super bowl right now, the Russian prop, 112 and a half yards. Don't forget it's now it's up to 114 and a half. Evan is reporting. Don't forget we talked about this, you know, and you just said it coming off the top. The prop opened at 127 and a half for the NFC title game went up to 130 and a half. The highest Russian prop ever actually closed about 122 or 123 and a half came down. So I don't mind. I don't mind. 112 and a half against the Chiefs defense that is struggling against the run. Goodness gracious. Tell me before we go to the Chiefs, why are they going for the tush bush from the two and a half yard line?
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Simon Hunter
Honestly, I'd have to see what situation you're talking about. To me, it's just about eating up clock and time. We're like that. You know, they kept having to jump off sides and they just wasted an extra minute or two.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, no, but they did like that was they were going for the Tush push from the 2 1/2 yard line and they got stopped. They got lucky that there was some kind of, I think offsides, but that wasn't on purpose. And then they had it at the one, but multiple times it looked like they were Tush pushing from two yards, two and a half yards. Which to me was like, the fuck are we doing here? It makes sense.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, I that the only one I questioned was they they did it from the two yard line when Saquon got him down there. And I was like, why do you not just give it to Saquon here? You're not on the one, you're on the two or the three. Why not give the Saquon instead? You just said they tush pushed. Yeah, two or three times they got in. But I think it's just they know they're gonna yard or two at a time. They just eats up more clock. So yeah, again everyone's talking about how easy the Tush push is. Eagles got stopped on it a couple times in that game. And same with Josh Allen today. Yeah, like they why I love when people talk about banning. It's like you can stop it. You just have to game plan to have the right, the right type of players to do it. So yeah, pretty insane the fact that, you know, hurts three rushing touchdowns and I know our guy Chris Raybon gave out Saquon three rushing touchdowns plus three. Not was it plus three. 50. Raybon gave it out. So yeah, pretty insane hit by Chris on that Saquon three touchdowns.
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Chad Millman
Unbelievable game. Thrilled for the Eagles. Thrilled that we bet the Eagles. Thrilled that we got to talk about it all week and feel like why are people on the commanders? This doesn't make sense. It feels like it's, you know, get.
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Simon Hunter
A lot of heat, a lot of pros and it's just like they're like you guys are too dug in on your futures. I'm like, no, this is like what the definition of being a pro is. Everyone's telling you you're wrong and you're on the favorites at home, getting no respect with the books. It really lined up so perfect. That's why I love these type of spots.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, like I felt so happy to be on the side of the books and against the public and be sure the the better overall teams that were favorites at home, like, you never get that Normally you're like, all right, I gotta take the shittier team that's getting the points. I think there's the value, like you never get the privilege of being on the better team. That is the favorite because the public is enamored with these transcendent quarterbacks, including Josh Allen.
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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything, because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.
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Simon Hunter
There was something sentimental when you. Like when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?
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Bobby Bones
I don't like the color of this.
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Simon Hunter
It's extremely pink.
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Bobby Bones
Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Justin Penick
What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson. Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.
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Adnan Virk
What's up, everybody? Adnan Vir here to tell you about a new podcast from iHeart podcast in the National Hockey League. It's NHL unscripted with Virk and Demers.
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Jason Demers
Hey, I'm Jason Demers, former 700 game NHL defenseman turned NHL Network analyst. And boy, oh, boy, does daddy have a lot to say.
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Adnan Virk
I love you, by the way, on NHL Network, we're looking forward to getting together each week to chat and chirp about the sport and all the other things surrounding it that we love. Right?
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Jason Demers
Yeah, I just met you today, but we're going to have a ton of guests from the colliding worlds of hockey, entertainment and pop culture. And you know what? Tons of back and forth on all things NHL.
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Adnan Virk
Yeah, you're soon going to find out we're not just hockey talk. We had all kinds of random stuff on this podcast. Movies, television, food, wrestling, even the stuff that you wear in NHL.
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Jason Demers
Now you wish you could pull off my short shorts Virky that's sure to cause a ruckus.
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Adnan Virk
Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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A.J. Stephens
Ever wonder what it's like to be on the phone with an NFL general manager as you finalize the biggest contract in NFL history? I'm A.J. stephens, Vice President of Client Strategy at Athletes Verse, where we've negotiated $1.4 billion in current NFL quarterback contracts. Tracks introducing the Athletes First Family podcast the Quarterback Series along with my co host Brian Murphy, Athletes first CEO, we're pulling back the curtain on how these historic deals come together. You'll hear directly from the agents who shaped the NFL's financial landscape, the ones who negotiated Justin Herbert's extension into Sean Watson's fully guaranteed contract that sent shockwaves through the league. This isn't just about the numbers, though. It's about the untold stories behind these massive negotiations and the relationships the NFL superstars like Dak Prescott, Tua Tungavaloa and Jordan Love have with their agents at Athletes First. For the first time ever, the agents who orchestrate these deals are sharing the details of the negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Chad Millman
Buffalo Kansas City Kansas City closed as a 1 1/2 point favorite, by the way. I think if this game kicks off half an hour later, they close at 1. The money the money line moved from 125 down to 115 before the game. The Chiefs were our Simon says at one and a half. They were exact decision on the Money Line Arrowhead sounded so freaking loud through the tv, did it not?
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, going into it. Like I think Stuck had a good tweet about there's something the way CBS does it that's different than Fox. I don't know what it is, but they do have better coverage to get you more amped up. Like they. I really felt that in the coverage of the CBS compared to Fox again, maybe it's because it's nighttime. That helps too. But I'm with you. I was like so fired up heading to that game.
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Chad Millman
I was so pumped. And this game, God, did it live up to the hype. Yeah, it felt like in the first half, the Bills were so tight, right? They. They like Josh Allen that first series, two near interceptions. He had a fumble that he recovered himself. The. The. The way they lost control at the. On that touchdown where they had the personal foul. It just felt like they were really edgy and jittery and I think that football, that. That fumble by Mahomes, they were up. What was it? 10 3, something like that? 7 3. And they were driving like the 23 yard line. And Mahomes pulled it out on the RPO and the Bills recovered. I think that saved the game for them. I think it might end up being a blowout if not for that. Because the Chiefs were doing whatever they wanted to on offense in the first half.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, this is the type of game I'm going to watch two or three more times just because it felt like there was just so much going on in this game and. Instant classic. Obviously, I. It's the best feeling ever when you talk about modeling numbers and it comes in right on the number you said it should be. So I said, if it was Bills plus three, I would have been more than happy to take the plus three. It wasn't. We stuck to our numbers. And man, it's hard. Like, it's hard to go against Josh Allen and especially where what we talked about. There's a human element of this, why everyone's sick of the Chiefs. Like, people are like, aren't you? You're happy your butt buddies won the Chiefs. It's like, why would I like the Chiefs? I hate the Chiefs. They really. I didn't see for a year.
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Chad Millman
I love the Chiefs. This is exactly what I'm rooting for. I want history, I want dominance. I want Patrick Mahomes to win 10 Super Bowls. I love watching him play. I said to my kids sitting on the couch, like, I almost got sentimental, dude. This is magical, what we're watching. His ability to see the defense, read the defense, make decisions and get the ball out of his hands in the smallest windows, from the craziest angles that play at the end of the game to worthy. Like, that was a miracle throw that he made. And it's just like I Hope they win every year that he's a quarterback. I just think it's amazing.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. And it's why I basically told you before the year if I wasn't putting any money on anyone else in the AFC except the Chiefs, because I said exactly what you just said there, minus the part of loving this guy. It was more so of. This is historical. We're seeing something so special, so unique. The fact they can keep all these players, all their coaches on that staff, it's very unique group. And if they get you at home in the playoffs, they're going to get you. It's incredible. And it really is a chess match. Like, you know, the Bills, they totally flipped that game at one point, right? They basically got the touchdown before half, get the three and out. They needed to start the second half or not three now, but they punted the Chiefs, they go right down, score again. Chief's next possession, they punt it again. And it was like, oh, this is happening. This is lining up for the Bills. But no, they just wait. They wait. That fourth down play, you know, I get Bills fans being pissed. I mean, you could go either way on that one that, you know, Josh Allen got that first down, did he not? But Josh Allen didn't get it. Mahomes got the ball, like you just said, knows what he needs to do. Right. And what he needs to do is he runs the ball in the playoffs. That's the biggest difference we see in his career. He just. There's something they do, Andy, reading him, they talk about like that design run for that last touchdown.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
- [30:00]
Simon Hunter
Vintage, vintage Andrew Reed. Smart play call Bills and see it coming because why would they. They've never run that play this season. I guarantee you. We can go back and look, they didn't run that play. Lead blocker Travis Kelsey. So yeah, it's the whole reason we want. We bet him. We loved it. We loved our spot, our position on it. And yeah, it's like you just said, it's. It's history. Like we've never seen anything like it. And anytime you think, oh, someone's finally got him, like before you jumped on here, we were talking before everyone else got on. It's like Josh Allen had the ball down three. I saw it, I could see it happen. Him driving the field, getting the touchdown. And that's how you beat Mahomes. That's how you have to do. You can't tie him there, you can't kick the three there because you're going to somehow lose that game. You had to drive the Field get the touchdown. They just couldn't do it.
- [30:46]
Justin Penick
Well, they did it here tonight.
- [30:50]
Simon Hunter
Telling you that one.
- [30:54]
Justin Penick
Had some sting on it.
- [30:56]
Simon Hunter
Yeah, heartbreak obviously for Bills fans, but yeah, if you're a Chiefs better, someone like us, it's, it's the best feeling because you just keep trusting the process. You trust the numbers. Not only the models, but the trends. Right. The trends are all over this Chiefs team in this spot. It's just, it's a unique spot. It's Mahomes at home, below 40 degrees. It's just automatic basically from here on out. So I'm glad we learned our lesson, Chad last year because we went against them, got burned in that Ravens game and since then we have just been on this chief's team and they've been paying us big time in this playoff run.
- [31:28]
Chad Millman
Andy Reid knew what he was in for when he went forward on fourth and one from their 39.
- [31:34]
Simon Hunter
Yeah.
- [31:35]
Chad Millman
Midway through the second quarter that ended with the Xavier Worthy touchdown. By the way, let's give some shout outs. Unconvince me. Obviously you had the Chiefs minus one and a half and you had the Eagles minus six. Sean Kerner had Xavier worthy anytime. Touchdown. If you listen to the Six pack with Stuckey and Raybon, the Action Network podcast, Raybon on that show gave out the Eagles to have more punts than the Commanders that cashed. He gave out, as you said, Saquon, three plus touchdowns that cashed. It's been a banner playoffs for Action Network analysts. It really has. Like it was a tough season, but the playoffs have been phenomenal. Hopefully people have been paying attention. The Bills had six by my count, turnover worthy plays that they kept the ball on. They had those two near picks from Allen, three fumbles from Allen, all of which he recovered and the one by Ray Davis. And it was all going their way.
- [32:44]
Simon Hunter
I mean they scored and they scored 2 4th down touchdowns. They're like you talked about their fumbles bounced their way, right. Josh Allen picked it up. I think their rookie running back Davis fumbled, bounced right to him. Like they definitely had bounces going their way in that game.
- [32:58]
Chad Millman
So I almost feel like, you know, let's give, let's give a minute to that fourth down call. I almost. And also on a previous fourth down, same drive, Josh Allen fumbled the ball and recovered it. It almost felt like karma. There had to be, if we're thinking and speaking mathematically, there was regression on that fourth down play. Right. Even though it was a judgment call by the officials. Not every single thing, not every fumble, not every fourth down was going to go the Bill's way.
- [33:32]
Simon Hunter
No, definitely. But like I said though, they, they just, they felt like the team of destiny, this Bill's team that they're finally going to do it. And they were getting the bounces and you know the Chiefs weren't getting those ticky tack calls that they're used to. Right. They felt like, you know, a lot of the calls were not going their way. And the Eagles game, it felt like every call was going the Eagles way. Like they're a home team. They were definitely getting the refs on the home side. Did not feel like that way in the Chiefs Bills game. That felt like a pretty clean game both sides, you know. Well, again the Josh down thing I can't get over is he's out there with freaking Mac Hollins making this dude, you know, making these big time catches and these insane moments and it's like, it's just incredible what Josh Allen's done with a bunch of just trash and you know him and James Cook, that's just something. Yeah, it's just something incredible to build off of. Like that run Cook had in that fourth down. You know, like they said, the top tier is Derek Henry and Saquon and then right below that are guys like Cook like just absolute game changers. Incredible running back and yeah, like we say all the time, brutal for Bills fans. I know they don't want to hear we probably have two, two Bills fans even left listening to this show after being against us all week on the Chiefs. But you know, you got Josh Allen every year. Like I said, this is to me one of the worst teams he's going to have. You had 70 million dead cap space. You know, there's just so much to work with going forward. But you know Joe Brady, the fact he's turning down jobs right now, it's, it's going to be all good Bills fans, but obviously, oh and for in the playoffs against Mahomes. It's brutal. You're running, you're, you're one in a lifetime generational talents running into the, the Michael Jordan of the sport. So it is brutal. I get, I get the hurt right.
- [35:17]
Chad Millman
Now coming from you know, it's Karl Malone and the John Stockton and you know, you're so good. You cannot just the misfortune of being a generationally great quarterback playing against a historically great quarterback. All right, the, the, the look ahead lines for the Chiefs and the Eagles is one and a half. One and a half. Kansas City minus one and a half. That is what it opened at as I said, this thing was moving before we even came out in the air. I bet it at one and a half. I also bet the Chiefs on the money line at minus 120. The line now at bet365 is minus 2. What are your. We're not, we're not going to go like into the deepest, deepest breakdown, but what are your initial thoughts?
- [36:13]
Simon Hunter
Yeah, like you just said, if you want to know what the pros are going, what models are going to have this ad, I said it last week. I had the Chief's favorite. So you want to grab Chiefs minus one and a half. Now I got no issue with it if that's your position. But yeah, I have so much I need to dive into here and really break down. And you know, obviously we all know the deal. Eagles are the better team. They're going to be modeled as a better team than most people. It's just Mahomes is different, the Chiefs team is different and computers just don't understand it. And that's the toughest part here where it's like you kind of need to really dig into a lot of stuff that's not normal to dig into. And you know, I'm looking forward to a lot of phone calls here because it's going to be really insane breaking this down. A lot of guys this week just because it's, it's so opinion based and we knew that this number was probably going to move. I'm shocked to see it's already moving to two already. So pretty interesting that respected people already taking their money. Not taking it out of like we say all the time, you're not cashing that ticket for cash. You're cashing it and rolling it over. So not shocking. You know we, we talked about, we really love and respected this Chiefs team. I bet heavy on them in this spot. I'm not going to take out that cash. I'm going to roll it over most likely on the Chief. So yeah, if you, if you want to take that side, take it. I'm not in a rush because it feels like by the time I get off this call mar going miss the one and a half. So yeah, I'm excited to break this one down. It's, it's going to be a fun, fun, fun two weeks here coming up.
- [37:33]
Chad Millman
So you haven't bet the Chiefs minus one and a half yet.
- [37:36]
Simon Hunter
No, because you know the deal. I told you I got 5k to win over 300k. Yeah, like I got, I have such an insane position and you know, like My phone has just been blown up non stop because not only did our, you know, our show do well, my clients, my bosses, like everyone, we're all living the dream right now. Like my two, my two futures were Eagles and Chiefs. Both hit NFC title bets, AFC title bets, both cashed. And yeah, the, the future market right now, you know, it's, it's rare, Chad. We're gonna come on here and give out 55, the ones in August that hit so.
- [38:09]
Chad Millman
And 28 to ones, my man.
- [38:11]
Simon Hunter
So, yeah, it's, it's, it's a nice spot to be in right now. So that's why I'm not rushing, brother. Like, if it, if I didn't have a position on it, I'm with you. I probably would be rushing. I can be patient here because I do want to really dive into this one. And I'm just saying to the fans of the show, if you didn't grab the plus 200 grab, grab the minus one and a half right now if you want to.
- [38:31]
Chad Millman
All right, we will talk a lot more about this game over the next few weeks. We will have our rotation where Simon and I are going to break this down. We will also have our regular props breakdown all the good stuff that we look to and love for super bowl week. This was our final Sunday night episode of the season. What a freaking season. Thanks to everybody for joining us. What I loved about this season is our audiences were always bigger on the days we got crushed.
- [39:08]
Simon Hunter
Bastards.
- [39:11]
Chad Millman
And we did okay. Nobody wanted to hear us talk about when we did well, but they loved hearing it when we had to come on in Pure misery. But we appreciate every single person who came on with us on Sunday as our next episode is live on Tuesday, 1:30pm Eastern on Action Networks YouTube channel. Be the first of our four Super bowl episodes. Download us from Spotify, Apple pods, wherever you get your pods rate. Review. Subscribe. Leave us 5 stars. Say whatever you want. Feedback is a gift. Until Tuesday. Love you. Action Network reminds you, please gamble responsibly. If you or someone you care about has a gambling problem, help is available 247 at 1-800-GAMBLER hey, it's Bobby Bones.
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Bobby Bones
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Justin Penick
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Adnan Virk
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Jason Demers
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Adnan Virk
Hey, I got a lot to say here, too, okay? Each week we'll get together check job at the sport that we love.
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Jason Demers
Tons of guests are going to join in too. But we're not just gonna be talking hockey, folks. We're talking movies, we're talking tv, food, and Adnan's favorite wrestling. It's all on le table.
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Adnan Virk
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Chad Millman
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