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Podcast Narrator
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.
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Gilbert King
Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Podcast Narrator
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
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Gilbert King
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Podcast Narrator
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Chad Millman
Welcome to the Favorites the podcast presented by bet365. We are part of the volume podcast network. I am Chad Millman of the Action Network and I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, my bff Professional Better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon.
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Simon Hunter
Chad, how we doing?
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Chad Millman
I think you know because of where we spent the weekend that I love few things more than the city of Chicago.
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Simon Hunter
Oh yeah.
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Chad Millman
And today we have a staple of the Chicago sports scene who like so many people from Chicago, has gone on to incredible heights. Higher than the Willits Tower in his career. Because Chicago sports fans are so good at turning their fandom into content and turning that content into gold. He has now launched into the nationally prominent role at Fox Sports. You can catch his beautiful face every morning on breakfast ball on FS1, one of the windy City's very finest. Welcome back to the program. Danny Parkins, my brother.
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Danny Parkins
Guys, thank you so much for having me on. It's the Sears Tower forever. You said beautiful face, so I know you're lying. But I'm thrilled to Be.
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Chad Millman
No one watches this, so it doesn't matter.
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Danny Parkins
That's true. Thank you. And yeah, is true about Chicago sports fans. They're the best. And the content, if not the winning, they forgot the winning part. But the, the content that the teams generate is world class. And the city is of course as well. What's going on, boys?
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Chad Millman
So we had a, we had an event, a live event with listeners. A few hundred people showed up to Joe's on Weed.
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Danny Parkins
Oh, classic.
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Chad Millman
Classic, right? Just the best. Every single person, when I would mention we're doing an event at Joe's on weed, if they have any connection to Chicago, they'd be like, just the best. Like they've seen a show.
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Danny Parkins
I got hammered with the old CFO of my company at a holiday party at Joe. At Joe's on Weed. That was a good time. It also is just like the bar name lends itself to a good time, but there is really Weed Street. But they, they, they lean into it in every way. Big bar, dive bar, reasonably priced drinks, the ability for live entertainment. Yeah. Very, very, very good spot. Seen some, seen some good music there. Had some nights that you forget there. It's, it's a good time. Very good.
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Chad Millman
Simon. Simon had a night he forgot there. Simon. Simon disappeared probably about two hours before I thought he would disappear. Do you remember why you disappeared?
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Simon Hunter
For a woman. But I, I told you I'm not a huge drinker. And I literally woke up, went out with clients, drank mimosas and then we, we started boozing out. I don't even know. Not we. I should say me. Like 1:30 at this party. Party didn't start till 4:30. By the time I hit 8, 9:00, I was like, okay, I'm about to start saying things that I can't say at a company event. So I made the right move. I got out there at the right time. I did the I love you guys on stage and then I just disappeared into the crowd.
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Danny Parkins
Little Irish exit by Simon. I respect that.
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Chad Millman
It was an Irish. So on Friday night, Danny Simon wanted to go to the White Sox game. And you know, you were the one. We told him that would be a terrible idea. I told him you might as well go to northern Indiana on the coldest day of the year. Were we too harsh?
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Danny Parkins
Well, I mean, the food is great.
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Simon Hunter
That's what I was going to go for. Exactly. Thank you.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, the food is great. The craft beer selection is fantastic. You know, my guys out in the 108 are really cool. Sox fans are a good time, you know, solace. And I've, I've, I've. I could think of worse things to do. But let's put it this way. I've got a few weekends already booked to go back to Chicago this summer, and the White Sox are not on my agenda. So, you know, I can think of other things that I would do, but if, you know, I'm not going to yuck your yum. Some people like chocolate, some people like vanilla. There's nothing wrong with it.
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Chad Millman
Fair enough. All right.
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Simon Hunter
As a reminder, Chad, they're 2 and 2. It was 05 the bridge.
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Danny Parkins
They are 2 and 2. They are pacing to not be the worst team in the history of baseball again.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, no, it's good for them. As a reminder, the Favorites podcast is presented by bet365 and new bet365. Customers get $150 in bonus bets when you bet$5. Sign up using promo code Favorites, deposit $10, place a bet for $5 to get $150 in bonus bets. Those bonus bets can be used on spreads, totals, player props, futures and more. Whatever the moment, it's Never Ordinary. At BET 365 must be 21 or older and present in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, or 18 and older in Kentucky. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- GAMBLER or 1-800-BITS OFF in Iowa. Terms, conditions, restrictions apply. All right, Danny. Chad, you're a man who knows his way around the world of betting. You and I first connected, I think seven, eight years ago now when we were talking betting on various radio shows during NFL playoffs. You immediately struck me as someone who knew the language. And it was not doing this because, oh, betting was the way to get famous. We had, we had Chris Felika on the show the other day and we were talking about, like, how things have changed. And for about two or three years, it was just full of people who want to talk betting to get famous. You come by it naturally.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
Last year, last year, NFL rules changes, they moved the kickoff. Kickoff, if it wasn't, if it was a touchback, went to the 30. New rule change. As of this week, it goes to the 35. Hoping to get more kickoff returns into the game. It's really a, you know, it's quite a penalty there to get to the 35. I felt like going to the 30 had a huge impact on betting. Do you feel like a 35 yard line will have a huge impact on betting?
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, I mean, I, I'm in favor just from A watchability standpoint of figuring out ways to get in more returns into the game. So I, I think the thrust of it is, is good, but it was, you know, with how hot the kickers started last year in the NFL, you could get a touchback to the 30, get two or three first downs, and then Brandon Aubrey was banging field goals through 55, 57 yards like it was nothing. And it was, you know, like, obviously that makes the totals go up and that's a place where you can see it, you know, you could put more of a value on teams with strong kickers. I advocated for the Arena League, actually, and like the narrowing of, of the uprights because that was, that was like the unintended consequence that I just didn't like about it was that it made, it felt like it made. The goal was to make kickers less impactful, to make for more returns and exciting plays on special teams, but it made them matter more because we saw more field goal attempts and we saw more long field goal attempts. And I'm just not interested in that at all. Both from a gambling perspective and a watching the game perspective. Like if I play fantasy football, I want to play in leagues that don't have kickers because it just is just not a part, it's not a fun part of the game for me. So I do think that anything that, you know, is an advantage to the offense, especially with how kickers are performing nowadays. It's. It's a thing that will get baked into the totals probably, and it'll make the expected points in the game go up.
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Chad Millman
Simon, I think this plays to our advantage. I do. I feel like I was already leaning towards regression. Meaning last year was such a heavy favorites year, we were worried that. Could this be a sea change? I don't think so anymore. As I've been doing some off season work, I'm starting to think more and more that this will regress back and this could have been an anomaly. And I actually think this plays to our advantage because I do think there will be more returns and fewer and fewer teams who, who are putting themselves in a position to have to defend offenses that are starting at the 35 yard line.
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Simon Hunter
And that's the biggest issue, Chad, is that I'm honestly going the other way. I think it might be more chalky. I just think they did the wrong thing. They should have pushed it back five yards. I'll move it up another five. Because it's like we just talked about. All right. A team gets about the 35, right, they get a first down, let's say they pick up 12 yards. So now they're three yards away, four yards away from the 50. It's just gonna, it's completely changing the game. If you have a quarterback like Jayn Daniels, like, you know, Mahomes, whoever you're going to keep going for on the fourth downs if you're at midfield, because it's just worth the risk, right? And we already talked about it. These teams with these great quarterbacks, they're happy to trade fourth down failures for their team kicking threes, right? The other team gets the ball at the midfield, they kick a field goal, that's a win for them. Like they're going to get the ball back and they might get it back again at the 35. So to me, I'm really busy the next two, three days, Chad, because a lot of, a lot of books have already put out. They're basically divisional odds. I'm going to be taking heavy positions on favorites like the Bills, the Chiefs, the Houston, these teams that we already think they're the best in the division. To me, this kickoff only helps those teams that have the great quarterbacks versus the teams that do, not the difference. These quarterbacks. Now we've seen it now, we had the data after last year's season. These teams were just so willing to go for, I mean, I can't tell you how many times teams went for a chat on their own 40, on their own 38 when they're winning. Like we never seen that in the history of football. We saw multiple times happen last year and it's going to be even more extreme to me. So, yeah, very, very unique time period we're living in right now, Chad, because they're just doing these little, little rule changes, but it's becoming a big deal for someone like me and you that we love betting dogs. I hate betting favorites and we have to bet favorites. I'm telling you, we just, we're gonna have to suck it up, brother, and just bet favorites.
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Danny Parkins
I think that's such an old school thought though. Like I hate betting favorites. Why? If they win, just like you just have to know the trend, right? Like it used, it used to be that it was fun to bet dogs because, you know, if, if, if your premise holds, right? Like I, I don't care what side I'm on as long as I think it's the winning side. Like if the value is in laying six because the spread should be seven and a half, I have no problem with that. Like I, I think like, you know, it used to be, like, Scott Van Pelt was like, fade the public. And, like, sure, that's a good idea in the aggregate. Like, bet underdogs. Sure.
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Simon Hunter
Like.
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Danny Parkins
But I think, to your point, maybe that's not going to be the case for the next five years. I certainly wish that I had had more chalky picks in my NCAA tournament survivor pools and my brackets. You know what I mean? Like, there's something to recognizing where the trend is going. Like, I. It's an obvious point. Like, I know this is what you're talking about, but what's happened in college basketball right now with the nil money being spread out Amongst the Power 5 schools, so the smaller schools just don't have the money to keep the players. It makes perfect sense that this would be a year where the SEC and the Big Ten and conferences like that would dominate and advance their teams. And so I. I wish that I had thought of that and, like, taken a harder position on it. But, you know, I'm. Houston's done well for me, and, like, you know, I'm doing okay, but it's. I am not as beholden to, like, the smart play is backing the underdog. I'm not. I'm not sure. The smart play is to know where the trend of the sport is going, because I had a great year in the NFL last year. Like, 65% on the show, and people would. My mentions, like, gambling. Twitter was in my mentions. Oh, you're laying the wood on three favorites in week 14. And then I'm like, yeah, have you seen how the season's been going? And then I'd go 3, 0. And then, of course, it's crickets. Like, I just. I think you got to be nimble with that. With that sort of thinking. And if you're right and there's edge here on. If favorites being undervalued again, I wouldn't hate it. I'd cash it.
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Simon Hunter
But that's. That's the problem, though. It's not. I mean, you know, Danny, it's not this easy. Like, that's. That's the show. Like, I'm in line at the book. The guy in front of me is like, yeah, I got the Ravens this week. I got the Eagles, I got the Bills, and I got, you know, the Chiefs. All right. Back in the day, that guy would be lucky to go 2 and 2. He was going 40 every other week. Like, that does not happen on the spread. Like, usually the books catch up to those guys because they know the public's going to bet Those high teams. But like the books going to catch up to it. Neither could me and Chad because me and Chad have made a living betting on the Panthers. We made a living betting on the Raiders. Like these teams that suck with bad quarterbacks. But like you just talked about, the, the game has changed so much because these teams now are just like it. We'll go for it on 4th down our own 40 because if we fail here, we'll stop them. They'll kick a three, we'll get it back. We'll go get, drive the field, get another seven. Like it's just totally changed. I'm with you. It's just, I'm trying to catch up to it because I don't mind betting favorites. It's just tough. Me and you have to get five picks every week. And the weeks we pick four favorites to one. Dog, me and Chad both feel sick to our stomach. Even if it does win, it just feels unnatural to us because we've both been doing this for over 15 years and we're just, yeah, man. Dog.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, trust me, trust me. I, I, I feel you. But go four and one on your favorites. I don't give the luck.
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Chad Millman
Historically, Historically, you want to be on the same side as the sports book. That to me, is where we ultimately want to end up. It's hard to be on the same side as the sportsbook when the sportsbook doesn't want to be on the side of the favorites because that means that everybody is on the same side. Right. And so how do we reconcile going into a year where we want to be ahead of the trend? Also knowing that there's been one or two years in the history of sports betting against the spread where, like, you, you haven't won if you were on the, the same side at the sportsbook, I think that's the bigger sort of mind meld that we have to get into.
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Danny Parkins
I think that's right. I just, you know, you don't know what the trend is going to be at the beginning of the year and trends can change and all of that. So, you know, put your numbers out and then if you, if you, Again, if you, if you think it should be seven and a half and it's six, lay the six. You know, if you, if you think it's, it should be four and a half and it's six, take the plus six. Like it's a, it's the simplest. I think that, like going in with, like, completely overarching strategies, you know, you want to have positions, you want to have beliefs you want to believe in teams, but you also got to just like watch the games and trust your eyes. Like, and like adapt to it quickly. Like if you, like, if you caught on early last year with Washington, you're like, oh yeah, this is real. Like, this isn't fluky. Like, you can, you can snipe some opportunity in that spot. So I don't know what the story of this year will be. I doubt it will be favorites again, to your point. But there will be some team out there that covers as a favorite a bunch and there will be some team out there that covers as a dog a bunch. Like, so, like, it's not, you know what I mean? It's not. You don't have to be like, I am on team fade the public or I am on team favorite or I'm on team Underdog. Like, I think that there are within the course of a, of a season, a team, a stretch of time. There are just opportunities out there. But it's obviously, listen, betting the NFL is the hardest thing to do. It's the sharpest thing in the world. So it's very, very, very difficult to just literally, to use your phrase, make a living. Like, I don't know if you're being accurate or not, but to actually make a living betting the NFL exclusively is almost impossible.
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Podcast Narrator
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.
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Danny Parkins
I just knew him as a kid.
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Podcast Narrator
Long silent voices from his past came.
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Danny Parkins
Forward and he was just staring at me.
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Podcast Narrator
And they had secrets of their own to share.
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Gilbert King
Gilbert King I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.
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Podcast Narrator
I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.
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Gilbert King
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Podcast Narrator
I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.
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Gilbert King
If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.
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Podcast Narrator
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.
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Gilbert King
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Podcast Narrator
Bone Valley Season 2 Jeremy.
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Gilbert King
Jeremy, I want to tell you something.
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Podcast Narrator
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad free with exclusive content starting April 9th. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
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Chad Millman
So now you've got a big time TV job. Correct?
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Danny Parkins
I do not make a living betting the NFL.
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Chad Millman
That's right, because you've got a big time TV job. You can't give that up. When you were in Chicago doing Chicago radio, it was to me the most natural fit. Like a Chicago guy who loves Chicago, loves Chicago sports. How do you go through the process, deciding. Process of deciding? All right, I'm going to take my shot. I'm going to move. I'm going to take my family. We're going to leave this very comfortable life where you can make a very good living for a very long time to go on TV and have to talk about everybody.
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Danny Parkins
I wasn't worried about the talking about everybody thing. I think that that's way overstated from outside of the industry. Obviously I miss some of the subjects matter of the radio show, but I didn't like some of the subject matter of the radio show too. Like, talking about a bad baseball team in June is not fun. Like, I'd ra. I'd rather talk NBA playoffs and I'd rather talk NFL transactions and you know what I mean, that sort of thing. So, like the subject matter, yeah, I wish I could do more Bears, but I do some Bears and I, I have other outlets for that sort of thing. That, that, that piece of. It was not even a factor at all. I like new challenges. This was very unexpected, the TV situation. Like I thought I was going to do afternoons in Chicago for forever. To your point, I was making a good living and I would have been happy there. But there's also just, man, there's the. There's the brass tax of I have a 5 year old and a soon to be 3 year old and I like taking nice vacations and playing golf at expensive golf courses. Like the radio world, like all of this stuff is changing and in many cases shrinking. And so I had to be honest with myself of like, in five years, am I making more money and bigger, making the same amount of money and as relevant or making less money and less relevant if I stayed at my current spot versus going on national tv, obviously making more money and being less relevant in one place but more relevant in everywhere else. And it was a pretty obvious decision when you just put it through the calculus of like, my job is to provide for my family. So it was, you know, there are things that I miss about radio. I, I'll do hits on the score, hosting my radio thon on the score this summer. I still have great relationships with all the people there. I filled in for Mad Dog on Mad Dog Sports Radio when we do that again this summer, you know, so I still get to scratch the radio itch and who knows where my career goes or where the industry goes. But it, I mean, just on like the brass tax of the bottom line, it was, it was not a difficult decision.
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Chad Millman
Do you feel like the relevance has changed? Can you. Is there a tangible feeling from being on television on FS1 that you experience on a daily basis that is, is it social media? Is it people stopping on the street? How does it, what does it look like?
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Danny Parkins
Well, I mean, like, I'm so new to TV compared to radio that like, you know, I definitely get like stopped on the street more in Chicago than I do in New York City just based on like years of time spent and like the consolidation of your audience in one place versus now in so many different places and so consumed on digital and all of that. But like, but Nick Wright gets stopped in 100 countries. You know what I mean? Like, so like there's a, there's a, there's a pathway to that part. But again, I'm happy to sit at home and play golf and like that's not, that doesn't really do it for me. But like you definitely feel, listen, radio is super personal. You're in people's cars. It's like very like one on one. You know, I can talk about my kids, I can talk about embarrassing failures around the house. Like they know you better in radio than they will ever know you more personal level on television. And so like that connection is definitely something that I miss. And in radio, we had a text line, you know, it's like a live interactive text chat with your audience. That is absolutely not something that exists on television. So, yes, like, if you want to, like, get a thought to me on my sports take on television, you've got to be watching it live and then tweet to me and I have to check my mentions in a commercial break. It is three and a half minutes when I'm getting ready for the next segment and I'm sitting next to Mark Schler and Craig Carton and I got a producer in my ear and I got makeups being touched. You know what I mean? I am not really interacting with an audience while live on television. And so you can choose how much you want to, like, consume the feedback to tv. It's like they post clips on Instagram and Twitter and tick tock or wherever. Like, and if I, if I opt in to the feedback by reading the comments, then I can get some of it. But, like, it's also a lot easier to remove yourself from the critique and feedback of your content on television, which is, like, pretty healthy, honestly. So I, again, to be clear, I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth. Like, I miss some of the relevancy and the live interaction and the live feedback of radio. It's exhilarating where it's like you're getting live feedback or people are making jokes, participating with your topics and like, participating in it and building. Like, that's the beauty of radio. So that is not something that exists on television, obviously, but it's a lot healthier to just like, here's the topic, here's the topic, prepare for the topic, do the best job you can on the topic, and then keep it moving. Like, that is a much healthier way to interact with feedback. Because then the majority of the feedback that you do get in real life is someone coming up to you on the street and being like, hey, what's up, man? I love the show. Love your work. Can I get a picture? As opposed to some of the crazy negative shit that you'll get on social media, which, to be clear, I still get. I get a lot of it. But you have to, if you get it, you're seeking it out. And so then it's like, well, you can't let it bother you. I seeked it out. If I didn't want it, I could just ignore it. So I hope that answered your question, but it's very different.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, well, it's fascinating. And you're right about the radio stuff. There is an intimacy there. And oh, it's the best. It's going for so much longer. You've got to fill so much time. Your tone is different. It's not as performative as television.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, there's some. Not as performative. I think is. Is like, a negative connotation. There's definitely performance to television. No doubt. I would say that there's a performance to good radio also, so. But it's. It's just. You've got four hours a day, five days a week. Local radio, especially Bears, Cubs, Bulls, White Sox. Issues that affect Chicago are your main subject matters. But some days it's like, all right, it's May 19th. The Cubs are two games over.500. The White Sox are nine games under. The Bears haven't done anything. The Bulls and the Blackhawks are eliminated. And it's like, let's tell a story about parenting, you know what I mean? And just try to be funny and relatable. Or let's talk to your producer about his new girlfriend. Or the way to make a perfect steak and how he taught me how to use a cast iron and then I washed it with soap and he took the cast iron that he gave me back because I would. I had, you know, desecrated the art of the cast iron. Or how I had my nanny push car out of the snow because she was stronger than me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I can't get these stories off on tv. And so that. It's the. It's the. It's the personal nature of talking about your brother with brain cancer, talking about your new child, talking about the stupid argument you got in with your wife. Like, all of that is super relevant on radio and in some ways in podcasting, and there's just no lane for it when we're talking about where Aaron Rodgers, his next team, is going to be, I think. And I do miss. I do. I do miss that, to be clear. But it's. I don't miss it enough to, like, be like, I took the wrong job. Like, I. You know what I mean? It's. I. I'm fine. I'm fine, by the way. Something that is different.
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Chad Millman
Do you have an opinion on where. Where Aaron Rodgers should go at this point? It's. It's basically, the Steelers are nothing.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah. I mean, I said the Steelers at the. You know, with like, a week to go in the regular season. Because my whole thing on Rogers was he just dominates the news cycle so much that it's exhausting talking about him. If he's on a bad team and apparently, it's impossible for the Steelers to be bad. Like, they can't win in the playoffs, but at least they will play games that are on Monday night, Sunday night, Thursday night, and they will win more than 50% of them because Mike Tomlin's never had a losing year. And so at least you can, like, justify talking about Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin. It will be interesting. Like, the jets stopped being interesting in week four. And so the Steelers, okay, we'll get two games against Burrow. We'll get two games against Lamar. He'll go to Chicago to play the Bears. The packers will go to Pittsburgh. Like Aaron Rodgers, and the Steelers will be worth our collective attention and oxygen if he's in Pittsburgh. And it was. I mean, it was just such a waste of time with all the amount of time we spent talking about the guy with the injured season and the five wins last year that I kind of, like, grew to resent it. So Pittsburgh is where I want him to go because I know as long as he's playing, we're going to be talking about him.
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Chad Millman
Have you come to a consensus on the Chicago Bears winning the off season and what that means for the third.
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Danny Parkins
Straight year, by the way? You know, they talked about the Chiefs not being able to three peat. There's an active three peat.
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Chad Millman
There is. It's. It's pretty impressive, actually.
- [30:46]
Danny Parkins
Thank you.
- [30:47]
Chad Millman
When we were at, in. In Chicago, you know, so many Bears fans and every single conversation I had was, we, we won the off season. And I'm like, you know what? We won the off season. When two years ago, they. I bet him at 50 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. It got down to 20 to 1. I'm like, I am so ahead of the market. This is our year. DJ Moore is the exact solution for Justin Fields. Didn't happen last year. I didn't get ahead of it. I did not bet the Bears over eight and a half wins. I. I was never disappointed because I had very low expectations. This year I'm trying really hard. I am, like, really trying to be the smart, thoughtful Bears fan who doesn't get ahead and believes that all of a sudden we fixed everything because we spent money on a coach.
- [31:42]
Danny Parkins
What kind of way is that to live?
- [31:44]
Chad Millman
You know, it's healthy.
- [31:46]
Danny Parkins
Listen, for gambling purposes, that's totally fine. And this is a gambling podcast. So. So, so fate. Fading Bears optimism is a very profitable strategy historically. So I have. So. So from that standpoint, I want to be very clear. I support fading Bears optimism. Like, feel free to take Your unders. But like, man, life is too short to not believe that the next solution could be the one that's dumb. Like, I wanted the Bears to draft a Sean Watson. They drafted Mitch Trubisky. We ended up both being wrong. They should have taken Patrick Mahomes. Yes. Then I wanted them to trade up for Justin Fields. I supported that trade. I had. I threw a QB1 party celebrating the arrival of the Bears. Having a franchise quarterback after he had 175 rushing yards against the Dolphins. That was a very exciting game. In hindsight, I should have been a little bit more measured because it was a rushing performance, passing performance. But like, what if you then be like, well, I can't fall for Caleb Williams because of Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields. It's like, well, that's boring. That's. Then you're defeated. Then you may as well go be a, you know, go, go be a Lions fan. Go, go, go be a Commanders fan. Like, that's, that's, that's dumb. So from the gambling standpoint, I'm here for the cynicisms. Like, I hear my guy, Big Cat being like, oh, I'm not six out of ten excitement. I'm not going above six out of ten excitement. I'm like, why? Like, that's, that's part of the fun of fandom. Colin was, you know, fan is short for fanatic. Like, it's. You gotta, you gotta fall for it. If you don't fall for it, you honestly shouldn't watch sports. You should just stop watching sports.
- [33:34]
Chad Millman
Here's what I think we have going for us. I think the fact that ownership and this is terrible to say, but the fact that Virginia McCaskey passed away, I think changes some of the feelings around the team and how this team is managed and who knows what happens next. Don't give me that face because that has been. That is. The McCaskey family's ownership of this team has been a challenge since 1985.
- [34:13]
Danny Parkins
Sure, the Bengals were the Bungles. And then they got Joe Burrow. Like, they didn't become. The ownership didn't become good. They just got Joe Burrow. That's it. It's all that happened. They got Joe Burrow. The Chiefs didn't win a single game, one regular season game with a quarterback that they drafted from Todd Blacklidge to Patrick Mahomes. That was the, like. Now they won, you know, Trent Green, Joe Montana, Alan. But like, things change. Things change. And so I think, listen, I think that Kevin Warren and the business side paying Ben Johnson, a bunch of money is obviously a departure from their history with coaches. I think that's totally fair. But Matt Nagy was a hot coaching candidate. They hired him. John Fox had won a Super bowl and was relatively expensive for the time they had hired him. Like, they haven't gotten it right at coach and quarterback my entire life. That's impossible. It's an imp. Now you can say, well, the common thread there, dummy, is the McCaskey family. And I'm with you on that, like, to a certain extent, but I just think that, like, if Caleb Williams is awesome and Ben Johnson is awesome, Virginia McCaskey could have lived to be 140 and the Bears would have been awesome. Well, you know, like, I really do think that, like, you have to get your quarterback and your coach and then everything else you can kind of figure out. And I'm cautiously optimistic that they have their quarterback and coach, but again, I felt that way before. Cautiously optimistic? Higher.
- [35:55]
Chad Millman
Cautiously optimistic or rabidly over the top? Having a good time? Optimistic.
- [36:01]
Danny Parkins
Okay, so here's the other part about it now. Like, I. There are some people in our line of work, we'll say my line of work, the opinion space, more local professional.
- [36:14]
Chad Millman
Capital J journalists over here.
- [36:16]
Danny Parkins
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're handicappers. You got Simon saying that he's made a living batting the Carolina Panthers. Again, not positive. That's exactly true. But we'll see. But we'll see. I. Some people are not willing to, like, make a prediction on the front end and be wrong. Like, they're like, well, I'll just. I'll just, like, kind of play it down the middle. And like, I. There are literally hosts that I have worked with in Chicago that I don't make predictions. I don't pick games. It's like, man, I am totally, comfortably being wrong because I've gambled my whole life. Like, I know that you could be great at this and be wrong 4 out of 10 times. So Ryan Polls has done a lot of the things that I said I wanted him to do on, like, the front end. You know, I wanted them to draft Caleb Williams. I wanted them to draft Roma Dunes A. I said they should have taken Jalen Carter instead of Darnell Wright. I wanted them to take George Pickens instead of Jaquan Brisker. I wanted them to hire Ben Johnson. Like, so, like, you know, a couple of picks he didn't do, but the big ones he did. So, like, I. I feel like they're doing this the right way. They upgraded their offensive Line significantly in the off season. Caleb Williams got sacked 62 times last year and he was actually pretty good. Like, if you look at I did it on the show. If you do quarterbacks who have been sacked 60 or more times like those seasons and then you look at their touchdown interception ratio and like passer rating, his is the best by far. Now, it's not good players, it's David Carr. It's, you know, Randall Cunningham was awesome, but his season where he got sacked 60 times wasn't. And a couple of other guys who had disaster seasons, like, I think for the fact that that happened to him as a rookie. They fired his head coach, they fired his play caller, they lost 10 straight games, including in some just ridiculous fashion like that Hail Mary. And he's still at the end of it. Started 17 games, showed toughness, showed poise, showed improvement, and only through six picks. Like, I, I think he's a stud, man. I really do. And Ben Johnson was the best coach they could have hired. So I'm as optimistic as I am allowed to be. I'm not picking them to win the super bowl. But in terms of the long term outlook of the Bears, I think they're clearly still a buyer. Like, I think that their next five years are going to be very good and they're going to win a lot of games.
- [38:39]
Chad Millman
Well, now I'm turning it up to 11.
- [38:41]
Danny Parkins
I was saying, like, what other than the uniform is cursed and it just never works out and so I should just be cynical because that's my nature. Like, what about the Bears? Do you.
- [38:54]
Chad Millman
Do we not like, I feel like that's enough.
- [38:58]
Danny Parkins
See, I disagree.
- [39:00]
Chad Millman
I feel like that would have had.
- [39:03]
Danny Parkins
You losing money every day on the 2016 Cubs.
- [39:08]
Chad Millman
I love the 2016 Cubs. That is a.
- [39:11]
Danny Parkins
Why they had never won before. They were cursed.
- [39:14]
Chad Millman
Yeah. And then they got over it. So you're saying that the Bears will get over this? I'm saying I'm going to in 2016. My enthusiasm for the Cubs built over the course of a season. My enthusiasm for the Bears will build over the course of a season.
- [39:30]
Danny Parkins
But yours. Okay, but see, this is again where we disagree. Coming off of a 20. The 2015 Cubs, they won 97 games. They were a good team.
- [39:39]
Chad Millman
Yeah.
- [39:40]
Danny Parkins
So I know the Bears say they were not a good team. The Bears have been going for them.
- [39:44]
Chad Millman
Let me, let me give you some context. And I know Simon wants to jump in here because he wants to hear about something other than the Bears, but let me give you context right now. What you just, you Just. You just talked about your beautiful family and wanting to provide for your family. Let me give you a scene. Okay. It's 2003. My first son is three months old. I'm living in Manhattan Midtown on the east side on 57th street between Lex and 3rd. My wife is sleeping. It's 11 o'clock at night. I've got my son sleeping on my chest and Bartman happens. Like I've got the scars over a lifetime where I will not be enthusiastic until it's time to be enthusiastic.
- [40:31]
Danny Parkins
I was in high school, I almost cried. Okay, Like, I understand I was way too old to be crying or verge of tears over a sporting event. But my point is, is if you have given up hope, then just trade stocks and go to the theater. Like, there's no reason to care about sports. If you've given up hope, it's unscripted. We don't know what's going to happen. And I don't believe in magic or curses or goblins. So I don't believe that. Just like inherently, the Bears are cursed because they haven't won a Super bowl in my lifetime. That's. I've seen too many other teams, including the Cubs, overcome it so. And change reputation alone. Now, listen, would this be a lot easier to say if Caleb Williams just had the season that Jaden Daniels had? Yes, it would. Yes, it would. But that's why you need people like me on that wall to be optimistic in the face of overwhelming negativity and pessimism from cynics like Chad Millman. Yeah.
- [41:27]
Chad Millman
When I think about. When I think about optimism, I'm thinking about Danny Park.
- [41:33]
Danny Parkins
That's right.
- [41:33]
Chad Millman
It's the first thing I.
- [41:34]
Danny Parkins
That's right.
- [41:35]
Chad Millman
About.
- [41:36]
Danny Parkins
That's right. No, I'm not a cold hearted, sarcastic son of a bitch. I'm a cockeyed optimist, by the way.
- [41:42]
Chad Millman
Give it time. You're a TV star. You're not living in the Midwest anymore. Give it time.
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Danny Parkins
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Gilbert King
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Gilbert King
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Gilbert King
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- [44:07]
Chad Millman
Simon Eagles win Super Bowls all the time.
- [44:10]
Simon Hunter
Well, just to even piggyback off that real quick, Chad, like I, I always wonder people on tv, like all day I think about football. Honestly, even at night, I'm thinking football. Someone like you, are you always thinking about hot takes or do you just say on tv and then later someone's like, oh, that was a hot take. You weren't even thinking about. You just said it. That happened. Do you pre plan that stuff? Because sometimes, I mean, I've seen it. You come across my timeline just because I'm an Eagles fan. I've seen your Jalen hurts stakes. We don't need to get into that. There's enough, enough. Not enough time here to get into it. But do you pre plan that?
- [44:39]
Chad Millman
We got plenty of time, buddy.
- [44:40]
Danny Parkins
Let's get into it. Would you trade Jalen Hurts for Josh Allen?
- [44:45]
Simon Hunter
Would I trade Jalen Hurts for Josh Allen? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [44:50]
Danny Parkins
Okay.
- [44:50]
Simon Hunter
I would.
- [44:50]
Danny Parkins
Well, then we're fine. Then we're on the same argument.
- [44:52]
Simon Hunter
Okay.
- [44:52]
Danny Parkins
And your Eagle fan brethren who said that that was ridiculous. Can. Can.
- [44:57]
Simon Hunter
You know we're defensive right now about Jalen. You know it is. Yeah, I know.
- [45:00]
Danny Parkins
But like, people have gone insane. You guys have gone insane.
- [45:04]
Simon Hunter
No, we've gone insanely.
- [45:06]
Danny Parkins
A polarizing thing to say that the Eagles would trade Jalen Hurts for Josh Allen. That was offensive to Eagles fans.
- [45:13]
Simon Hunter
Most Eagles fans get upset about. People still think Justin Herbert, they would take him over Jalen Hurts.
- [45:21]
Danny Parkins
And here's a question for you.
- [45:23]
Simon Hunter
What's the point if you, if you're, if your goal is just to make the playoffs and then lose because your quarterback throws four interceptions is just dog like Herbert?
- [45:31]
Danny Parkins
That was a bad point. That was a bad game. It's, it's, it's definitely tough to make that argument after that playoff game. But I, but I am, I am genuinely curious. You brought up Jalen Hurts. I'm genuinely curious if you thought, if you switched them and you put Jalen Hurts on the Chargers, do you think they're in that playoff game?
- [45:52]
Simon Hunter
Yeah. With that coaching staff and that defense. Yeah.
- [45:55]
Danny Parkins
And you think the Eagles do not win the Super Bowl?
- [45:58]
Simon Hunter
No. Because he just, he's not that guy. Like, as much as I love to think, yes, the Eagles were incredibly complete team.
- [46:06]
Chad Millman
Yeah.
- [46:06]
Danny Parkins
Like, that's what I don't understand. Like Eagles fans. Like, I feel like when you say that you're actually like undercutting how good your team is and like you guys don't even realize it. Like you see it as defense of your quarterback. And I actually take it it as an insult to Howie Roseman and Jordan My Lada and Landon Dickerson and Jalen Carter and Cooper and Quinn Mitchell and Saquon Barkley and Devontae Smith and AJ Brown. Like on and on and on down the line. It's not an insult to say that your quarterback is a tough gamer who doesn't lose you guys games and plays his best in the biggest games, but that 15 guys would win a Super bowl on that team because that's how good your team is. That's not an insult to Jalen Hurts.
- [46:52]
Simon Hunter
It's not. But I disagree with it. Just because every year the best team usually doesn't win in football and it's because it's tight the playoffs. I mean, we've all played sports. We know how it is. Like everyone gets tight and it's really mental when you get to that point because the level everyone's playing it so high. Like, listen, we love Jared Goff on this show that guy had a great team in Detroit. On paper, just as good as this Eagles team. I mean, you could say. Well, his defense had a ton, a ton of injuries. Okay, this guy threw three interceptions in a pick six against that Washington defense. But then how do you explain the home lit up?
- [47:25]
Danny Parkins
So what happened to Mahomes in the Super Bowl? Did he just like mentally wilt?
- [47:29]
Simon Hunter
He. He did in some ways. Like if you go back and watch it.
- [47:32]
Danny Parkins
Well, right, okay, fine. But he, but, but it's not because he's not mentally strong enough to win, right?
- [47:38]
Simon Hunter
No, no, no. Like in his career. No, he's always over.
- [47:41]
Danny Parkins
His team wasn't good enough.
- [47:42]
Simon Hunter
Yeah, but that was just like his ship, his ship was taking on so much water, it didn't matter how much he was throwing out, it was like he couldn't stop it. Right. That was just never ending amount of a leak. But I, I just think that the hurts thing like we talked about as an Eagles fan, I think that's why we get so defensive. It's like people think it's just because of the team and it's like, no, he makes these big time throws in these big time moments that I would say 90% of the quarterbacks playing the league right now cannot make and have never made. So that's never, you know, I have.
- [48:13]
Danny Parkins
Fun with it because it's never made. Okay.
- [48:15]
Simon Hunter
Yeah, like people want to push back on it. Like, like the, the, the fans I hear the most from just because how big our show is, are Cowboys fans. And I have fun with it because it is fun. Like, I love how passionate Cowboy fans are and because they're just like Eagles. We're fucking crazy about our teams and I joke with them all the time. Dak go through his career, he's had some incredibly talented teams down in Dallas. The man has won two playoff games in his career. Why? Because he's not mentally right for the playoffs. Like, it's just that it's that big of a difference that something small goes wrong for certain quarterbacks and they can't recover from where Jalen hurts. In my lifetime as an Eagles fan, it's crazy to say he's the best quarterback we've ever had, man. And that's why I think Eagles fans are so defensive, because we've just had our whole life at the quarterback. Except for Nick, folks. Nick Foles. Yeah, but even you a joke like Nick Foles, I mean, he's got to.
- [49:05]
Danny Parkins
Be just like the mentally toughest guy ever, right? Because he won a Super Bowl.
- [49:09]
Simon Hunter
I Believe he is. He's one of. He's one of two quarterbacks in NFL history that beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl.
- [49:16]
Danny Parkins
Right. So, okay, right. But. So, okay, but so that. But you would. Again, you're not taking any credit for the Eagles organization in that spot.
- [49:25]
Simon Hunter
Of course I am. I say how he's the greatest GM a million times over. Okay, but that's why like, like you guys are talking about your head coach. I've been dead wrong. I'm over two on Eagles head coaches. I've won Super Bowls. I did not like the Doug Peterson hire. I did not like Sirianni. Both one ring. So it's like, I do think coaching is important, but like you're. We're talking about here. It's. It's top down. Right. It starts with the gm, starts with the ownership, the team building the right quarterback to write a coach. So that's just, you know, the, the push against the Eagles that we, you know, they're the best team that any. They could put a trash can back there and they would have won the Super Bowl. It's just, I think as an Eagles fan, we just think it's all insane.
- [50:03]
Danny Parkins
Because that's such a straw man.
- [50:05]
Simon Hunter
No one has two would come to Philadelphia and win a Super bowl with this past team. This past.
- [50:10]
Danny Parkins
Who said that?
- [50:11]
Simon Hunter
That's what people are saying. That's what I mean.
- [50:14]
Danny Parkins
Who?
- [50:15]
Simon Hunter
Nick Wright?
- [50:16]
Danny Parkins
He did not say that.
- [50:17]
Simon Hunter
But he didn't. He had Jalen Hurts outside his top 15 and he had two in his top 15. So that's what I mean. It's like, I don't know.
- [50:25]
Danny Parkins
Nick's. Nick's gambling in Vegas right now. But like I, I did not have.
- [50:28]
Simon Hunter
To go check out his. Him talking in August last year. He was not a fan of Jalen Hurts.
- [50:33]
Danny Parkins
Okay, well, okay, first of all, God, Eagles fans are so sensitive. I thought you guys were tough.
- [50:38]
Simon Hunter
I thought Eagles fans were not sensitive. We just remember the haters like Chad.
- [50:41]
Danny Parkins
Chad talking about last just won the Super Bowl. He. Since August, he's. He's won. You say since August, he's won 14. He's won 18 football games, including Super Bowl MVP. A lot has changed since August.
- [50:59]
Chad Millman
Although that said, if that said, I would look, I am not a huge Jalen Hurts fan. I think he's amazing, but like he's.
- [51:09]
Simon Hunter
Outside his top 10 headed into the season. Just so we're all.
- [51:12]
Chad Millman
What I right now. What right. Right now have Jalen Hurts as a guy as a better. I don't want to have the Ball. If I have bet against his team as a top five, would I rather have Jalen Hurts over Matthew Stafford? If I've bet against Matthew Stafford, like.
- [51:35]
Simon Hunter
Both of you guys, you guys would have Jaden Daniels overheard, correct?
- [51:40]
Danny Parkins
Yes.
- [51:41]
Simon Hunter
Okay. Jaden Daniels is one year younger than Hertz and he's played in the NFL for one year. Hertz has played for five years.
- [51:47]
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
- [51:48]
Simon Hunter
And that's my issue is people think Jayne Daniels is a better quarterback now than Hertz because of one good year rather than a guy who's played for five years, been to two Super Bowls.
- [51:57]
Danny Parkins
It's a team sport, dude. It's a team sport.
- [52:01]
Simon Hunter
It is. But the quarterback, the worst position that matters the most.
- [52:05]
Danny Parkins
What'd you say?
- [52:06]
Simon Hunter
You say it's a team sport, but we all agree the quarterback is the most important position.
- [52:10]
Danny Parkins
Yeah, of course.
- [52:11]
Simon Hunter
Okay, so.
- [52:13]
Danny Parkins
But okay, in basketball, you're one of five on the court and you play for 40 of 48 minutes. So one in basketball has a huge impact. Obviously. One in football has a huge impact, but it's not like that slice of the pie is smaller. Even. Even if it's the biggest slice of the piece, but it's smaller. Coaching matters more because it's 11 on 11. Because you're on the field for you don't play offense and defense. Right. Like a quarterback is the MO Is the biggest slice of the football impact pie, but it is smaller than Joker to the Nuggets. Right. To Giannis, to The Bucks, to LeBron, to the Lakers. Right. We all understand that. So having the best offensive line, the best. I mean, they were number one in some defensive categories last year, but we'll say a top five defense. Is that fair for the Eagles last year? Yeah. Top five defense. Yeah. Top five defense. Best offensive line, best running back, top three wide receiver duo. Top five wide receiver duo. Like, top five weapons, top one offensive line, top five defense. That's not what Jaden Daniels had.
- [53:33]
Simon Hunter
Okay, if you want to go that way, then what about Lamar last year? Lamar had the number one team in my model. And everyone's a model. It's professional, better. He lost at home to the Chiefs, couldn't score more than 17 points at home. I mean, that's. That's my thing. You're like, we all agree.
- [53:48]
Danny Parkins
We were just talking about. We were just talking about Jaden Daniels v. Jalen hurts.
- [53:52]
Simon Hunter
Yeah.
- [53:53]
Danny Parkins
You want to talk about Lamar? We can talk about Lamar because you.
- [53:55]
Simon Hunter
Just talked about how much of a team sport it was. And my whole pushback to you was Lamar had a Better team on paper than that Eagles team last year, brother, like anyone you talk to as a model, that team from two years ago at home, Ravens team that lost to the Chiefs, who were a four seed, that were bad, that was not a good team that won that super bowl against that 49ers team. Right. Lamar laid an egg. And you could say, well, okay, we'll put that on Lamar. But Lamar had a better team, the Eagles, and he laid an egg at home against that Chiefs team.
- [54:25]
Danny Parkins
You're saying the Ravens team of two years ago was better than the Eagles team of last year, is your point?
- [54:30]
Simon Hunter
If you. If you ask a professional, better. That models it out. Yeah, they're great at high.
- [54:33]
Danny Parkins
Okay. I just want. I just want to be sure. I'm understanding. You're talking about two years ago, Ravens team and last year's Eagles team. And then doing two years ago, Lamar Jackson against last year, Jalen Hurts.
- [54:43]
Simon Hunter
No, that's what you're asking. My point.
- [54:44]
Danny Parkins
It's. That's not exactly apples to apples. And so, like. And again, using one, you said the best team, right? Okay. The best team doesn't always win, but one data point of single elimination. Like, that's why. That's why extrapolating out and being like, he wilted in this playoff game, it still is just one game. Again, difference with basketball.
- [55:08]
Simon Hunter
The most important game.
- [55:10]
Danny Parkins
Yes, the most important game.
- [55:11]
Simon Hunter
Yeah.
- [55:12]
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
- [55:12]
Simon Hunter
That's what I think. People in media, I feel like you guys are missing the point here where it's like, Lamar. No one's doubting Lamar is a better quarterback than Jalen Hurts. Right? Me and Chad will do our top 10. We'll have Lamar above him. But my whole issue is, like, Hertz doesn't give the credit for what he does is in the playoffs, he makes it all work. He doesn't wilt. He doesn't throw it.
- [55:30]
Danny Parkins
Like, I just got. I got like, honestly, like. So is saying Jalen Hurts is the seventh best quarterback in football after being the Super Bowl. Is that, like, disrespectful?
- [55:40]
Simon Hunter
It depends. You have above him. Like, if you had Stafford above him, I have no issue with that. If you have Justin Herbert above him, I have an issue with that.
- [55:48]
Danny Parkins
Mahomes Allen, Lamar Burrow, Stafford. Like, yeah, I would. I would say that Jaden Daniels is better. Again, isolating performance. I mean, because, like, we have one. We have one year and he won what, three playoff game or two. Two playoff games, sure. In one year with a. With a worse team. But, like, so, like, he. He was mentally tough enough to not wilt in the first two games, but then he was mentally weak in the NFC championship game. Like I just don't do my analysis off of like one game like that. Like Jalen Hurts is a gamer.
- [56:23]
Simon Hunter
But you. That's my issue is you are doing it off one game.
- [56:25]
Danny Parkins
He was the super bowl mvp. That changes things.
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Simon Hunter
But that's what I'm saying is you're giving him his flowers now because of one game that you're missing the whole point.
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Danny Parkins
He was. No, no. He was also awesome in the first Super Bowl.
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Simon Hunter
Yes.
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Danny Parkins
The first thing I said about Jalen Hurts was he's a gamer. He plays the. He plays his best in the biggest games. That was the first thing I said about him. But I don't. You. But you just said you still would say Lamar is better than him. Who doesn't play his best in the biggest games.
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Simon Hunter
Right. Because we're talking about.
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Danny Parkins
Because of the sample. What I said.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. For regular season we're saying we knew our top.
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Danny Parkins
Who's the better quarterback. Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
Position.
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Danny Parkins
Lamar Jackson is the better quarterback.
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Simon Hunter
Of course he's a two time mvp.
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Danny Parkins
But he wilts in the biggest games, most important games.
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Simon Hunter
So that's the tough part is like I wouldn't. I'd rather have Herz than I would Lamar.
- [57:16]
Danny Parkins
No, you wouldn't.
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Simon Hunter
I would.
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Danny Parkins
No.
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Chad Millman
No way.
- [57:19]
Danny Parkins
No, you wouldn't.
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Simon Hunter
You guys don't know about winning. You're talking to a winner here.
- [57:24]
Danny Parkins
You wouldn't. You, you.
- [57:26]
Simon Hunter
I would. Because I've seen the moments, man. Like again, I've made a ton of money fading Lamar in the playoffs and every year I got to hear from Ravens fans saying, you're going to get caught. We're different this year. The team is different. Oh, we got Derrick Henry. It's different. It's never different. It's always been the same. And that someday he'll break through.
- [57:46]
Danny Parkins
Right.
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Simon Hunter
Peyton Manning eventually broke through. He got over that hump that is Tom Brady. Like I'm sure Josh Allen will go over the hump that is Patrick Mahomes. It's just as an Eagles fans, I think that's what we're so annoyed about is just the Herd's disrespect was just so insane coming into the season because he had one down year where all these other guys can have just a bunch of nothing years. Like okay, good regular season playoffs time come and they falter. So that, that was just my biggest issue.
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Chad Millman
Danny. I think.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, sorry. Very sensitive.
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Chad Millman
Here's what I'm hoping for.
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Simon Hunter
But I Love it. That's why I love the Jalen hurts the bit because it's. It's funny because I can see it from both sides.
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Chad Millman
Here's what I would like, Danny, for you and I. Yeah, I would like for you and I to have the opportunity to be as sensitive and defensive about Caleb Williams after he's won two Super Bowls as Eagles fans can be about Jalen hurts. And over the years.
- [58:38]
Danny Parkins
Let's do it this way. How. What, what rules do you think the NFL is going to have to change to counterbalance Caleb Williams's greatness?
- [58:45]
Simon Hunter
Like.
- [58:46]
Danny Parkins
Like banning the tush push.
- [58:47]
Chad Millman
That's right. I can't even imagine right now because I can't even wrap my head around the idea of the Bears being good enough to need rules changes.
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Danny Parkins
I bet you that you're only going to be allowed to throw from inside the hash marks after Caleb will this year.
- [59:00]
Chad Millman
You can only throw from inside the hash marks in with your opposite hand.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, that's right.
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Chad Millman
And also your helmet has to be on backwards.
- [59:08]
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
In Chicago, you can only do that at home.
- [59:13]
Danny Parkins
Yeah, I think that's. I think. I think that's what's coming. I think that's what's coming. But Sam, to answer your point, your question. Yeah, I think about what I'm going to say on TV before I say it. That's how, that's how that.
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Simon Hunter
You know it's gonna be a hot. You know it's gonna be a hot topic, though. Like, you know it's a hot take.
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Danny Parkins
No, man, like I think. But like, I think what you just said is a hot take. You said that you would rather have Jalen hurts than Lamar Jackson. That's a hot take. Welcome to television.
- [59:40]
Simon Hunter
Thank you.
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Danny Parkins
You know what I mean? Like, so, like, you people say hot take is a pejorative, but you really believe it, right?
- [59:47]
Simon Hunter
I really believe in this sense that I have the data to back it up for sure.
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Danny Parkins
On tv without data and facts behind me.
- [59:55]
Simon Hunter
Not you. But okay, we know. We know. A lot of people do. No, not. Definitely not you.
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Danny Parkins
But I'm just doing it just curious. Like. But like, I just, I think that. But by the way, there's plenty of data that can show that Lamar Jackson is better than Jalen hurts. You can manipulate that to make any case that you want.
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Simon Hunter
Again, if you want to dominate the regular season, dominate it.
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Danny Parkins
Okay, fine, but that, again, that's the art. Again, I can show you point plenty of data that says Lamar is better than Jalen hurts. And you can show me playoff Data that says that Jalen is better than Lamar. And then I would come at you and argue sample size, and then you would come at me and argue your model for overall team support. And like, that's the beauty of sports, man. Like, it's a, like you can have data.
- [60:41]
Chad Millman
That's the beauty of doing it on television. You can have that argument and that debate non stop for just about every team in every single sport. Like, we've just been having. Like, there are data points that can be used to support your argument no matter what your argument is. The fun part is when you truly go all in and believe it, have to defend it, and then have to live with it over the course of an entire season.
- [61:09]
Danny Parkins
No doubt. Like, and I, I, I love planning my flag and taking a position and it's, it's what makes it fun. And by the way, I have no problem saying I was wrong. I obviously was wrong about the Eagles. You know what I mean? Like, I obviously was wrong. And then I just say I was wrong. Like, it's not, it doesn't, it doesn't bother me at all. Like, the, the losing bets bothers me. You know what I mean? Like, like being wrong about an opinion, it doesn't mean I don't believe it. It doesn't mean it's fake. And by the way, I have a researcher dedicated to propping up my takes with data and with facts and with information. Like, it's, it's an amazing amount of resources that we have at our disposal. But yeah, some people just don't have an ability to admit that they're wrong. And I think that that's like just a bad character trait. And by the way, I genuinely feel like being a gambler helps you admit.
- [62:06]
Chad Millman
You'Re wrong because, well, I was going to ask you that before we get out of here. Which is wrong. Which is harder, being wrong for betting and having to defend it versus being wrong for an opinion and knowing that you got to come back with another opinion the next day.
- [62:29]
Danny Parkins
I'm often, I'm often betting based on my opinion. And so the two are very interconnected. But again, I don't really look at either as, like, being hard. Like, it, it's just the job. Like, Simon, what were you on picking NFL this year?
- [62:52]
Simon Hunter
Like personal or on the show?
- [62:55]
Danny Parkins
Whichever you'd care to share, I'd have.
- [62:58]
Simon Hunter
To go back and look. But like, personally, probably right around 50, 50%. Like, it wasn't, it wasn't a good year, wasn't a bad year. But luckily, like, Chad knows We. I gave out the Chiefs and Eagles super bowl matchup, so it's like, I made six figures on super bowl future, so it's like my life. I can't complain. I can't complain, brother.
- [63:17]
Danny Parkins
Great. You crushed it. Yeah, that's awesome. But 50. 50 on, like, picks was tough. How many shows did you miss?
- [63:27]
Simon Hunter
Zero.
- [63:28]
Danny Parkins
Right. So one has no bearing with the other. Like, it's part of it. You talk about the wins, you talk about the losses, you talk about the correct predictions, you talk about the wrong predictions, and you still do content, and you still show up because you're a professional. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so, like. And by the way, that's sick that you made six figures on that. That's awesome.
- [63:44]
Simon Hunter
It was fun.
- [63:44]
Danny Parkins
You know what I mean?
- [63:45]
Simon Hunter
It was fun.
- [63:46]
Danny Parkins
It's not. Text me that on the side next time.
- [63:49]
Simon Hunter
I got you, Chad. Listen, thank God, because I was almost gonna lose my. On Chad, but thank God Chad made the bet, too.
- [63:55]
Danny Parkins
Yeah, that's excellent. But, yeah, it's the type of thing where it's like, I just. I. I don't. I'm not betting more than I can afford to lose, so the losses don't, like, really hurt you in that sense. And then the day. The. The thing that pays the mortgage is the takes and the TV show, and so just show up, win or lose, right or wrong. You know, like, just be a. Be a professional about it. So neither one really bothers me, to be honest with you.
- [64:23]
Chad Millman
Danny Parkins, breakfast ball. We're glad you showed up for us.
- [64:27]
Danny Parkins
Albeit a little late.
- [64:30]
Simon Hunter
Right on time, dude.
- [64:32]
Chad Millman
You showed up.
- [64:33]
Danny Parkins
I apologize. And I have no idea if this is what you guys wanted to talk about, if you. If you guys wanted to do, like, NL Central features, but I'm glad. I hope. I hope this is what you and your audience wanted, and I really want.
- [64:45]
Chad Millman
To go deep on the new bats and see how you felt about those, but we'll do it. You know what? We'll do it next time.
- [64:51]
Danny Parkins
What amazing branding. Yeah, it's just that the word torpedo is fun to say.
- [64:55]
Chad Millman
It's great. It's phenomenal branding. And there was actually a great story in the Wall Street Journal today about the physicist who created the bats, and he gave up his career in physics to go into coaching and created these bats, and it is. It's brilliant. Kudos to the Wall Street Journal.
- [65:14]
Danny Parkins
Yeah, but if they were. If they. If the guy's last name was. Was Mitchell, and it was just like, the Mitchell bat, no one would talk about as good, but it's the torpedo bat.
- [65:25]
Chad Millman
Yeah.
- [65:25]
Danny Parkins
Oh, it's the torpedo bat.
- [65:27]
Chad Millman
Yeah. It's fantastic.
- [65:28]
Danny Parkins
It's incredible.
- [65:29]
Chad Millman
I love it.
- [65:30]
Danny Parkins
Like, I decided that next year it's going to be Bazooka bats because Bazooka is just fun to say.
- [65:35]
Chad Millman
And also then there's a great tie in for Bubblegum and it takes us back to our nostalgic youth of loving 1970s baseball.
- [65:42]
Danny Parkins
That's what I'm saying.
- [65:43]
Chad Millman
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