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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 1 - Another wild week in the NFL, the Broncos 7 game win streak, the Raiders actually pursued Geno Smith
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Mac, I know it was windy in Denver, but 10 first downs and 11 penalties? Not great for your guy. Not great for Bo Nicks. So if Sean Payton is your head coach, Pff says you have the best offensive line in football. It's the Raiders defense. You have two very capable running backs, good wide receiver court, great. I don't know. Good. You got to do better than 10 first downs right now. This team has 10 more punts this year than Cleveland, in my opinion. Bo Nicks looks nervous. That's why he's so bad in the first half, it's like he's trying to please. Sean Payton feels the weight of the world on his shoulders. He is nervous sidearming stuff. Feels rushed when he's not rushed. Skipping balls out of the backfield like I get. Throws downfield were tough last night for both quarterbacks. It was windy. Denver gets that way. We're moving into the winter. But it shouldn't look like that. He looks nervous. He looks like he's got a lot of anxiety. And he only plays well most of this year. In the fourth quarter when he trails and has nothing to lose, he just lets it go. Sean Payton now is trying to protect Bo Nix and so he's making some odd compensation calls. Like that double pass on third and one. It's just a bad call. Well, Sean Payton didn't get dumb. He's trying to protect him. He, he knows that Bo Nix is not right upstairs because this Raider defense hasn't made any quarterback look that bad this year. So The Broncos have one touchdown in their last 17 drives. They have more three and outs than the Titans. Yeah, so I'm dead serious here. Sean Payton is a very impatient guy. He also understands the urgency at quarterback, unlike a lot of coaches in this league. I wonder because the roster the O line set, the D line set the pass rush, the receivers, would Sean Payton draft another quarterback? I'm dead serious. Bo Nix has regressed badly. His completion percentage is now towing that backup quarterback line from 66 and a half to 60. His passer rating has plummeted mid-90s to mid-80s. He's going to have more turnovers this year. Again, he is a significantly worse quarterback this year than last. And I understand quarterback development is not linear. I think it was Peyton Manning who suddenly had a really bad fourth year in the league. I get it. You lose a coordinator, you lose an offensive lineman. But this whole line's great. And we thought with Bo Nix, he was one of these high floor, low ceiling guys. We knew he didn't have like Caleb Williams horsepower, but he was a high floor guy. At worst he'd be like B, B ish. This is D ish. That old line, that play caller those running backs. And remember this, Denver's defense is staggeringly good and aggressive. So Bo Nix on average is getting much better field position than quarterbacks in the league. I mean, last night you're getting really good field position. So I've gone from a buy to a hold to a potential sell on Bo Nicks. I got seven straight weeks of this stuff and that last night was a problem. And Denver's had an easy schedule. So now Kansas City comes up off a buy. I don't care what the number is. Take the Chiefs, because this is a problem that's not getting better. We got DEFCOM 3 here. What's DEFCON 3? Increase readiness. I, I'm, I really look at this and I wonder if Sean Payton is talking to George the GM and saying, you know, we got a stacked roster here, we don't have a lot of needs. You know, there's like seven quarterbacks in the first couple of rounds. We may want to roll the dice on them and sit them behind bow for a year. I think you're to that point over and over and over. I mean if you put Josh Allen, Lamar, Herbert, Mahomes, I mean there's like seven, eight quarterbacks golf behind this group, this coach, this line. Look at that offensive line. He'd be blowing people out. I mean, the Raiders are a lost franchise. Here's Bo Nix after a messy performance. He'll win a lot of games with defense playing like that. And then tonight we had a little spark with some special teams plays. And then, you know, we just, at some point we got to start moving football and scoring points. I've been booed before and I'll be booed again. So not gonna be the last time. It's obviously unfortunate. You don't want your, your own fans booing you, but you know, it's part of it. Yeah, I know the wind was bad. It wasn't that bad. Let's talk Raiders briefly. When you pursue Geno Smith, the Raiders gave up a third round pick and paid him 66 million guaranteed. The Seahawks got Sam Darnold for no picks. He was a free agent and only pay him 55 million guaranteed. Seattle's John Snyder, really smart, really good personnel guy. The Raiders, they overpaid over, pursued Geno Smith who once again leads the NFL in picks. I mean he can't figure out basic pass protection. It's, it's, I mean it's, it's bad. And right now he's already the worst quarterback in the league. The last two years, Geno Smith has seven more interceptions than the next highest interception quarterback. So it's one thing to settle at quarterback, you should never settle at quarterback. It's another to pursue the wrong one. And I understand sometimes you draft a quarterback and you don't really know how it's going to pan out because it's college football to pro. Geno has been in the league as long as I've been at Fox. You got a lot of tape on me. You got a lot of tape on Gino. You got to know after all these years in league what a guy is and what a guy isn't. The smart GMs are not pursuing, pursuing, surrendering a third round pick. The Raiders could have had Darnold. Nobody in the world thinks Gino's better than Darnold. So, I mean, the other thing is Brock Bowers, as far as I can tell, I don't have the game film is open on every play. How does he have one reception? I don't even understand it. So Pete Carroll had a full year away from football to modernize, to reflect, to look in the mirror, to take stock, to evaluate everything. And he went back to Geno Smith. That ain't good. I mean, you're going at old school. Geno Smith, 27 picks in the last two years, seven more than the next guy. So the Raiders have earned fourth place in the modern NFL. If you are tone deaf to quarterback, you're tone deaf to winning. And again, it's not like Geno didn't have a resume. You didn't need to go to West Virginia sophomore year to look at film. You could have gone to last year. And Pete had a year off to reflect. I, I, I, offensively, I don't even know what the Raiders are. Here's Pete after we're not scoring the points. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you guys, you know, and that's, that's about as obvious as you can get. The running game would have helped us in that regard. But Chip was trying, you know, he, he, he was staying with the running game to try to not let them tee off on us. And, and so, yeah, we got to score more. Yeah, you never want to settle at quarterback. A lot of these defensive coaches, they're like, ah, Sam Howell, Mitch Trubisky. It's another to pursue. 66 million guaranteed in a third round pick to pursue Gino, who's been in the league forever and is a turnover machine. So you kind of, you earned your spot in fourth place. Denver's a different story. Bo Nix was young, it's college, good rookie year. You think he's going to grow? Something's happened. He looks nervous. That's a different feel. You do feel like, how do they write the ship? It was so ascending last year. Raiders are just, why, How? J. Mac, we have ourselves a weekend. I tell you something, I had this discussion with Danny Parkins at the network yesterday. Sometimes we in the media, you know, we get on something, we get really close to something, and you look at something and maybe we should take a step back. Are you talking about the Raiders and Pete Carroll? I mean, listen, you kind of given Pete Carroll a pass here. There's a veteran coach who's like, we could win. Now. Let's bring in Geno Smith. I mean, this is kind of a disaster. I. I don't want to say Pete Carroll's one and done there in Vegas, but, Colin, I mean, there's a veteran coach. They look awful. Like genuinely bad people are close to Pete Carroll. He's well respected in the media. Is he coaching this team next year? I don't know. I mean, the Raiders make a lot of moves. They make a lot. I mean, listen, we know what is winning in this league. Young offensive coaches. We know what's not winning as much and creating some angst. Older defensive coaches. Tomlin, Pete McDermott, right. Like, we know young offensive coach Andy Reid's outlier. All these young offensive coaches, the Ben Johnson's, the Sean McVeighs, Kyle Shanahan, still pretty young. That's what's working in the league. Some of the old defensive coaches like Ron Rivera, Tomlin, Pete, that. That's what we're kind of critical of these days. There's some young defensive coaches, Jesse Minner, Mike McDonald in Seattle that have kind of a new way of seeing things. So that's why I've said for the Miami Dolphins, I would look at Lane Kiffin. These young offensive coaches, you don't have to love Mike McDaniel. And he may not be the right CEO and cultural fit, but you know, Mike McDaniel knows offense. So the Raiders, they need a lot of things. And that Ashton Genty pick. I don't. I can't say anything. I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to know what to make of it. I can't blame him because the old line's a tragedy. I mean, yeah, they're missing Miller, but, you know, Jameer Gibbs came into this league. Bijan Robinson came on. They're getting the ball in space. They're doing things. Gen Z is like three yards a carry. I know. I don't see anything out of him. Yeah, yeah, the. The O lines, everything. On offense, Brock Bowers is open. He had one catch on three targets. 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They're both, I mean, big playmakers, strong, can make plays with their feet, big arms and big bodies that don't get hurt. Through eight games with Ben Johnson, let's. Let's pull back and look at the truth. Chicago leads the NFL in big plays. They are fourth in yards per play, their top five in total offense. Yeah, some of it's Ben Johnson schemes, some of it's Caleb Williams. And unlike Bo Nix, and I'm watching last night and I'm thinking, unlike Bo Nix, who is regressed, what was the one thing I worried about? Caleb, you gotta cut the sacks in half. He has. He's never thrown interceptions. He didn't throw him at usc, doesn't throw him. Didn't throw him last year. He doesn't throw interceptions. He holds the ball too long, but he doesn't turn it over. Passer rating up, sacks down, passing yards per game up. So he's ascending. And yeah, well, yeah, it's Ben Johnson. All the great quarterbacks. Bradshaw had Noel Marino had, Shula Elway had Shanahan, Stafford's got McVeigh, Aikman had Jimmy Johnson, Brees had Peyton. Folks, all the quarterbacks that succeed in this league have great coaches. There's nobody you know from a test tube that just does everything themselves. Everybody's got a kingmaker. So if Ben Johnson's his kingmaker, so be it. But I look at Drake, May and Caleb right now, their body, they're thick, they're big, they're playmakers. They can move. They throw bad picks. Drake May throws bad picks. And sometimes Caleb operationally gets out of sorts. But it's like looking at the economy. I'm not an economist, but the Inflation's down, unemployment's low, the stock market up 10 and a half percent. You could probably zoom into sectors and be apocalyptic and panicky, but we have a gigantic economy and from 33,000ft, I think it's okay. I think it's okay. Right? It's a big economy that overcame a pandemic. If you pull out on Caleb yards per play, big plays, rushing, dynamic downfield throws, pull out. You can look at individual drives, you can look at individual throws, but when you pull out, you're like, that's pretty good numbers. I mean last year to this year, touchdown more a game, almost 100 yards, total yards per game. Rushing's better, passing's better. There's clear growth dynamic results. He and Drake may look like those are the two stars. Here's Ben Johnson on the growth. I do think he's getting better every week. There's ups and there's downs and some weeks are better than others, which we knew. But he's a lot better place now with his process than he was to start the season. You know, that whole the week isn't necessarily smooth sailing always, but I think that's to be expected with year one in a new system. So he's learning and he's spent a lot of time at it. So I'm very pleased with his approach. I think we're going to continue to see him take off here second half of the season. Yeah, I mean it's not linear with these young quarterbacks, but if you have the right. Whenever I hear this, well, it's Ben Johnson. Every great quarterback has a Hall of Fame level coach and if they don't, the coach gets fired and they go find one. Mahomes has Andy Reid. Andy Reid gets credit too, but it's Mahomes. He's pulling the trigger. J Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news and get back to basics. Bounce back by just coming back in the building, getting back to work and finding ways to improve. Keep, keep stacking the days and keep that mindset. They're a good team. Obviously, you know, two, two losses against him last year. So it's going to be a test. You know, we know that it's Monday Night Football, be a great atmosphere and it's going to be a test. It's going to be a bounce back week for us. And you know, like I said, we just got that mindset to focus on us and our process and, and all the little details and just have that mindset to go out there. Start fast and play our best ball Monday. Yeah, I'm taking Philly easily. I mean, this is one of the bigger matchups of the season at this point, right? Philly off a buy. I don't understand the line. There's a couple of lines. The Colts line. I think they're going to blow out Atlanta and I think the Philadelphia Eagles are the better team here. And I think last week, in the last two weeks have kind of figured out what they are. Green Bay doesn't know what they are. Well, we know. I saw some video breakdowns of what the Panthers did to Jordan Love and essentially they said, hey, we're inviting you. Go ahead, throw the deep ball. And Jordan Love's like, fine, I'll do it. And he kept throwing picks. He was not good at all. The Eagles are susceptible to the deep ball in the back end because they've got now that safety, the kid from Iowa, Cooper Dejean is playing in the slot. So he's not like on the back end. I think there's some over the top action here for Christian Watson. I know they're going to miss Tucker Kraft underneath. Colin, I, I think I'd be loath to go against the packers here. It will this be in the blazing five? It will not. It's going to be like about once a week there's a game I want to watch and I just, I don't like betting a game when I have more questions than answer answers and Green Bay is the favorite and so it's tough to play Lambeau those standalone games and they played as poorly as they have played in two years. So my, my feeling would be Green Bay is going to bounce back with a very strong performance. I always say if you have a good coach and a quarterback and you lay an egg, you almost always play great the next week. So that's the number. Hard to bet against Philadelphia in close games. They've been in so many and they're so good in close games. Parsons knows and also Green Bay multiple times this year. It wasn't just Carolina. They tied Dallas, they lost to Cleveland. It's not like that was a one off against bad teams. Against bad teams that struggle take out the Detroit win in week one is still trying to find their way in week eight, week nine, Week ten. Micah knows Jalen hurts very well. Knows those tendencies from the dime in Dallas. I like, I like packers here. All right, let's go to the second story here, Colin. I don't know what the hell's going on with my guy Brock Purdy. This is just strange. He hasn't played since week four. They didn't put him on IR Every week. It's like, wow, I got this turf toe. The thing. Colin. I don't know. Listen to Kyle Shanahan. You tell me if any of this makes sense. I think we're. We're definitely being more aggressive with him as we go this week. More aggressive than that last week. And he's definitely getting better each week, heading the right direction. Still haven't decided this week or we'd rule him out or not. Probably do that tomorrow after practice. But Brock's definitely getting closer. So you're confident that we will see him again this year? Yes, I'm pretty confident. You'll see him this year. Well, I would hope. Pretty confident. How about this? The offense has been defined. It's Christian McCaffrey one, Mac Jones, two. He trusts Mac Jones. Kyle Shanahan's my coach of the year right now. What? And I think this is not in my blazing five. Above Shane Steichen. Yeah. Shane Steichen has his starters. Shane Steichen has a better roster. Shanahan's got Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams. Cross your fingers. That defense shouldn't be close to this. Good. And I'll tell you, this was almost one of my picks with San Francisco. The line's now up to four and a half. I'm. I would take San Francisco on this. Remember, the Rams have played a lot of Jags and Saints. This rivalry is physical and intense. You go up to the Bay area, this is going to be a close, fairly low scoring game. The problem is last time we saw San Fran against a good team and that's not Atlanta, that was the Tampa Bay game. They really struggled. They got destroyed. I think they lost by two scores. Well, that was in Tampa there at home. Was that in Tampa? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe that. That was. Yeah, that was at Tampa. You're right. Yeah. This is at home against arrival. Step up in class for the Rams. Okay, real quick on the injuries. So Ricky Pierce all like. I don't. Nobody knows what's going on. He's buried on my every fantasy roster. People are waiting. Why didn't they put him and Brock Purdy on ir? Those that's chewing up roster spots. Colin, for five weeks for guys who aren't even playing or practicing. What is happening in San Francisco? I don't know. They have so many injuries. Well, they didn't make a move at the trade deadline. Meaning they think they're getting guys back so they were not desperate. They're getting guys back. You know, it's almost like the Dodgers were the Dodgers. Blake Snell had like 11 starts. They all they cared about was September. That's what, September and October. I wonder if Kyle's looking at this and thinking, listen, I'm not going to bring guys back at 85% if we can keep winning two out of three weeks with this roster. I'm just, we're not going to make a move at the trade deadline. I want these guys Thanksgiving on and so they're winning enough. They're in contention here. They're not on a three game, four game losing streak. I want to wonder if he's like Pierce all could play, but he's 80%. And, and Shanahan's take is I want my guys fully healthy for the last eight games of the year. They're hopeful. Bryce Huff, who I know we scoffed at him. Good edge rusher factor for this team because they got nobody that could touch a quarterback. If you giving me Stafford and a clean pocket all day. Niners are cooked. Final story, college football. Now this one's spicy. You like this guy Josh? He's great football. Josh Pate is excellent. So he's doing one of his shows and at the very end he just tosses this in saying, hey, all these interesting openings in college football, keep an eye on Lincoln Riley. When Zach told me this, I'm like, come on, is this. Josh Pate is as connected as anybody in the sport. Okay, so who's bending over backwards to pry Lincoln Riley out of. Well, first of all, unlike Brian Kelly, he's not old and grumpy. Okay. Does he fit culturally at lsu? Well, he's a good offensive coach. Okay, so was Brian Kelly. Well, old and grumpy. Doesn't necessarily want to put the time into recruit. So. Okay, so Lincoln Riley may. Okay. Does he fit at Penn State? Well, I fit. It's same conference here. When I saw that, first of all, I trust Josh implicitly. I'm not, I'm not denying. So my take on this is USC has gotten. Has spent a lot of money in nil, a lot of money in facilities, a lot of money on the staff, a lot of money on the gm. And this roster has very few elite players. Very few. They're just now waking up to the fact that LA actually has really good athletes. They didn't recruit it for four years. So I think there's some discomfort. The fact that they're sub 500 on the road and many of their losses are to Maryland and Minnesota and then, you know, last year an average Michigan team in Illinois. And I, I'll, I'll be honest. If Penn State came and said, boom, here's the check and USC didn't have to pay in, in some sort of buyout could possibly at the end of the year, if they get clobbered by Oregon and it does, they lose, you know, the last game. I don't know. Yeah. All I'm, I'm not making. What I'm saying is Josh Pace is well connected. There's not a lot of guys out there. If Lane Kiffin takes an NFL job or stays at Ole Miss and doesn't go, you tell me. The Vanderbilt guy everybody loved, but really Bark Lee, he's amazing. Oh, okay. Amazing. Okay. So my, my take on Lincoln Riley. So, so I've been in this long enough. You know, in the media you get fed stuff. You got people talking to you. When I say stuff here on the show that's, you know, forward thinking. People could say, oh, I listen to his pod. I listen to the show closely. I know where J. Mac's getting that from. I don't know Josh as well as you do. Yeah. But I'll just say this. If I'm Lincoln Riley and I'm watching all these buyouts happen around college football, I'm in his camp. I'm floating this, hey, keep Lincoln's name out there in case, like you said, they get smashed by Oregon and the USC booster say, this is not good enough. Let's buy him out. Let's hit. I think this is Lincoln Riley. His camp hedging his bet. They're not dissatisfied with Lincoln. Well, if they get smashed by Oregon by 30. Yes. Then I think you look in the mirror and go, four years in. What are we. That's what I've said with usc. What's the. There, there. I know he's smart. I compare him to Matt LaFleur. I know he's young, smart, good play caller, liked by players. I don't know if the CEO thing is perfect. I kind of feel both get prickly. They can be a little defensive, but I know they're both smart and capable. Matt LaFleur would be on the job market if fired in a minute. He'd get a job. Lincoln Riley would get hired in a minute. He's, he has done an unbelievable job offensively. They don't have their, they're using a walk on running back, a walk on, on the offensive line. They really are. They've got some nice receivers and A good left tackle, but they're young everywhere and their star right now is a former UNLV quarterback and a walk on running back. So I think he's a really good coach. But it's. They spent a lot of money in this program and everybody at usc, they kind of look down at Oregon still. They're like, it's Oregon. You know, the USC booster crowd is a little nutty. I mean, the college football. Well, I think all these pro. I mean, when you're writing $5 million checks, is it nutty or demanding? Well, where were they before Lincoln Riley got here? I don't know. I think he's done a pretty damn good job. If they had beaten Illinois and they had their chance go either way, game at the end was had they beaten Illinois, I don't think you'd hear these rumors. But I, I do think I wouldn't move off him. I'll just say this, he's not Jim Harbaugh, obviously, but with Jim Harbaugh, I wouldn't move off him either. Multiple years, people were like, get him out of here. No, I wouldn't move off him. Just be patient. No, no, no, no. I, I'm the Brian Kelly thing. I got grumpy, weird, fit, didn't want to recruit older. He lost the team. Yeah. Lincoln's young. I don't see him as grumpy. He can get a little defensive. He's young, he's smart, he's on the right side of the ball. What he has done to Jaden Mava. Yeah, it's unbelievable, that kid. Two years ago I watched him at UNLV and I'm like, what is Lincoln seeing that guy? I think he looks like a pro. He does look like a pro. Because of Lincoln. Yeah. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news, man. I got stuff today. Blazing five, top of the show bounce back week. So very, a very interesting game. Minnesota hosts Baltimore. Lamar Jackson owns the nfc, but over the next month, starting this Sunday, the truth's going to come out on JJ McCarthy. No more hand holding. Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle can all score points. There's going to be some shootouts and they're going to need 30 points a game, 2830 points a game to win games. So so far this year, J.J. mcCarthy. I mean, if you kind of almost look at the career thing, it's. It's two good quarters of 12. Okay. If you take the two good quarters out, he has a 37 passer rating and is completing 53% of his throws. Two good quarters of 12 this year. That's not, that's not great. He was the 1 quarterback in the 2024 class I didn't buy. It was nothing personal. But I have to see in college a wow trait. That's why I like Kyler Murray. I'm like, I've never seen a guy move like that. Size, arm, athletic ability. I got to get a wow trait. You can't tell me he's a winner. What does that mean? That's like, if I'm trying to hire your son or daughter and I ask you as a parent about them and you're like, well, they're a good kid. Well, you're their parents. I would hope they're a good kid. You got to give me a resume where they go to school. What is their skill set? What have they done? I got 12 quarters, two good ones. You know, I, I, and, and here's the thing. If you go to his quarterback class in college, I looked it up. Pennix, Caleb, Jaden Daniels, Bo Nicks, Drake May averaged over 300 yards a game. They carried their teammates. J.J. mcCarthy averaged 199 yards. He was carried by Michigan. So his college career did not set him up for the NFL reality, which is you don't have the best O line, the best coach, the best run game, the best defense and the best field position. So. And people say, well, Colin, he'll make one or two spectacular throws a game. That's like being a comedian. One or two jokes that land does not make a great set. Right? You got to be funny for 25 minutes. You got to do a Bill Burr like, you got to be, you got to stand on stage for 45 minutes and 90% of it is really, really funny. Then you're a franchise comedian. It can't be a couple of good jokes. So I don't see The Wow. In 25 games, he's, he's played three. I don't know what to make of it. This morning, the staff, I said, give me the total quarters. 12. How many are good? Two. That's not a good hit rate. I don't know what to do with it. So he plays the Ravens. I look at the schedule. Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle. There are some offenses there. Lamar, Caleb, Jordan, Love, Sam Darnold. You got to put some points up. Here's Kevin O'. Connell. I mean, 2 of 12 is not even a good batting average. I mean, here's Kevin o'. Connell. I've always thought JJ is a Very, very high level processor of information. I think the way I would equate it to it would be like, you know, if you're a high level chef making a meal, you know, we try to put the ingredients out on the counter and then leave the instructions right next to the ingredients and then potentially, you know, have up until 15 seconds to help guide the crafting of that meal. That's how we try to do it. So it's not just show up to the stadium and figure it out all on your own, you know, I like the ingredients. I got no problem with the ingredients. It's the chef. I don't know if can can bring it home. Like I said, left tackle, star receivers, head coach, I love the ingredients. 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Yeah, USC is going to beat Northwestern and Iowa. It all comes down to that Oregon game. And to your point, USC views themselves as. And they're spending money like Ohio State is and Texas. They're spending big money on facilities and the staff and the nil. It's that Oregon game. Yeah, it's one thing, you know, it's one thing to lose at Notre Dame. The alumni is okay with that. And it's another thing, it's a battle with Oregon. But if you go down there and get baked in Eugene after losing Illinois and you look up four years in and you're like, oh, our record's kind of the same as Clay Helton. Now, we know Lincoln's better than Clay Helton. He develops players better. But it's, it's a lot of the same stuff. Recruiting's not as powerful as it should be. That was a Clay Hilton problem. It's a Lincoln issue. Everybody's like, oh, next year's class is great. Well, let's just see. Yeah, it's the nil world guys leave all the time. Indiana went into Oregon and had a pretty convincing win. Actually stumped Oregon. So you need. You need to show up. I like USC tonight. I think it's 14 and a half. They're a very good home team. But it's the story Josh Pate, like there's. Keep your eye on Penn State. Maybe it's just out there through an agent to cool the heat on Lincoln. I like Lincoln. He's my Matt LaFleur. I know he's smart. I know he knows quarterbacks. I know he's a really bright guy. Some of the CEO stuff a little prickly sometimes. I doubt the. The worldview on the program. Where's the. They're there with the Packers. And remember when he was at Oklahoma, there's not that massive spotlight at usc. Much bigger spotlight. Big Ten. I think you got to give these guys time. I agree. I'm with you. I'm defended Dabo and all these guys. He won 11 games every year at Oklahoma. I don't know that I can go defend Dabo, but that's another story. All right. Well, there's a lot of talk trade deadline week, criticizing teams that were too aggressive like Indianapolis. And I was thinking about Jaylen Phillips. Good player goes from spiraling out of control Miami to Philadelphia. Sauce Gardner goes from the abysmal hapless jets to the Colts. Rasheed Shahid hooks back up with his offensive coordinator in New Orleans, goes from the lost woeful Saints to the Seahawks. I think all three players are going to crush and it's three of my favorite GMs. Howie Roseman, Chris Ballard, John Snyder. Great GMs. So when people say. They say this a lot, well, you gave up too much. Be careful. First of all, Philly needed an edge rusher. They're like bottom six in sacks, bottom seven and sacks. The Colts needed a corner. Look at the Colts schedule. Next five weeks they need. They're facing a lot of number one receivers. They need an elite corner in Seattle. Too much of their offense through the air was jsn. They needed another perimeter weapon. But when people say, oh, you gave up, there's first round picks. So instead of just crossing your fingers and hoping next year the first rounders play, let's go back to this past first round. Two players in the first round are crushing playmakers today. 2 of 32. Tyler Warren, who Chris Ballard drafted. Tight end, Colts all pro level tight end. And A mecca. Buka wide receiver, Tampa. Productive. Dynamic. They are professional football players and high end players. Two of 32 in the first round. There's another six, seven guys who are good. They're not Sas Gardner or Jalen Phillips. Productive. So again, windows close very quickly in professional football. Strike when the iron is hot is a term used in every industry. And I look at Rasheed Shahid and Jalen Phillips and Sauce Gardner. All of those guys fill a small hole on good rosters. Somebody told me this years ago, they're like, everybody loves draft picks. But if you have a really good roster like the Philadelphia Eagles, how many spots are available in the draft? I mean, you're the Colts. How many guys can you draft? Tyler Warren hits the only. I mean, there's only two or three spots that a second third rounder could even make that. That's why they gave up first round picks. Philly, Seattle and Indy have three of the top six rosters in the sport. And if you like your quarterback and all of them apparently do all right, you give up first round picks. So I like aggressive GMs, maybe to a fault. Here's Jalen Phillips. I'm going from Miami to Philly. I thought I was excited day one. I mean, talk to me now like, this is literally the greatest thing that's happened to me in my whole life, probably. I mean, it's like a workplace transfer. It's unbelievable. I will defend those GMs. I want to throw this out there. I don't want to go too deep into it. I'm not going to put on a tinfoil hat, but you're a LeBron guy a little bit. J. Mac. So Wednesday a report surfaces. LeBron's not making the five game roadie at sciatica. Nerve is very temperamental. And then that night, Luca has one of his games of the year. Wemby gets stymied. JJ Redick looks like a genius. And the next morning, the report comes out. The Sciatica Nerve. Nerve what? Sciatica nerve Feel like a million dollars. I read the story yesterday. LeBron has now been cleared for contact and had made sure that story made the news, made us, made sure that story made the LA Times. They got out there for the press. Kind of felt a little intentional is all I'm saying. Look at me. Maybe so is that LeBron? He's going to rush back now. What are you. I see the tinfoil hat on. LeBron is very intentional. Stuff gets out because his camp wants it out. Luke on a heater beat the red Hot Spurs. Honestly, Aiden's playing great. Luka. They did it without Austin Reeves and LeBron. LeBron. Just make sure the old sciatica. Nothing, just a little achy breaky. It's all healed up. Yeah, I don't know, I just think here's Rachel Nichols on LeBron fitting in with the Lakers. I think now he's really on board with being on this team right now and letting what happens next year be, you know, next summer sort of thing. But look, LeBron has a gravity in a locker room, in any room he's in. I always compare him to Jupiter. Jupiter has two and a half times the gravity of Earth. LeBron has two and a half times the gravity of anyone else in that locker room. So when he's in the locker room actively on the court, he is such a huge presence. That's not LeBron's fault. He doesn't do anything disruptive. It's just that he is. He's different. I am not wearing a tinfoil hat. It just felt like it was an intentional report after a glorious win at home over the Spurs. Hey, this is how journalism works. You've got a probe. Love it. The Blazing Five. Next. You know that feeling when you come home late from work and the puppy dog eyes just pierce right through your soul? Yeah. We've all been there, right? Pet parent guilt is real. And you know what? It's completely normal. 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