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Oh it is a Tuesday. We are stacked. Justin Herbert, great American hero in overtime the Chargers, I mean the Eagles even had extra days to prepare. What a night last night for Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert. One hour from now, the Herd hierarchy. Will those bums from Philadelphia even make the top 10?
I'll try to squeeze Buffalo in.
That was great. That signifies how valuable a great head coach, a great quarterback and an ascending rising coordinator Jesse Minter are. I mean think about this. The chargers are now 9 and 4. They lost a bosa, both Pro bowl level tackles on their third string running back and last night their quarterbacks off hand surgery and they beat a stacked Eagles roster. All I've heard all year with Philly is well, Landon Dickerson isn't 100%. You know, Lane Johnson's out. Sorry, not Sirianni. I'm done listening to it. Devonte Smith, A.J. brown, Sequan Barkley, Most of the best offensive line in football. The Eagles are.03 without a starting right tackle. The Chargers are 4 and 3 without both their tackles. And whenever Justin Herbert plays with a broken hand. Last night was all grit and all coaching. Justin Herbert didn't want to be the Bolts leading rusher, but he was pressured on 68% of his throws. That is the worst pass protection any quarterback in any game has faced all season. So I've said this for Years. If you don't get Justin Herbert, you don't get it. That kid's taken up beating, a record setting beating. He's under siege. Last night he finally got one of his running backs back. Backups everywhere in the offensive line. He's stiff arming people in overtime, coming off a broken hand and pff, I looked this morning has him as the sixth highest rated quarterback. So they're 9 4, not to mention in a division with Andy Reid and Sean Payton, the reigning super bowl champs and the number one seed, Denver. And they're nine and four. I mean it was, it was a dicker the kicker. It was Tony Jefferson, retired a couple years ago. He has four picks this year. It was Harbaugh, it was Herbert, it was the special teams, it's the kicking, it's Jesse Minter. I mean to me, head coaching quarterback is more than just diagramming some plays and, and completing some passes. It is about resilience and toughness. And this is a very interesting number the last two years. We always talk about coaches and I think Harbaugh is as good a coach as any coach in my life. If you count college and pro, I think he's that good. This team is 13 and four the last two seasons after week eight. That is coaching, that is culture, that is toughness, that is resilience. I mean this team averaged 3.9 yards of play. This is the best roster, the Eagles roster in the league. Herbert's pressured 68% of the throws. They should have been blown out. They're on backups all over the offensive line facing one of the great defenses, Philadelphia, in the league, and yet they get five turnovers. Pull them away from Philadelphia. I mean Herbert just broke his hand, just had surgery. Here's Jim Harbaugh gushing over Herbert and Justin Herbert, he's a superhero. He is a competitive maniac.
I mean he was even stiff arming guys, you know, with a broken hand. He had surgery a week ago and out here tonight, it's, it's, it felt like, like I was in a, like we were in a movie where, you know, the quarterback's doing these and it's like you get to the point where go, okay, this is getting a little unrealistic. You know that, that's what it felt like to me. It really is amazing that this team is 9 and 4, still has a chance to win their division. Play the Chiefs next. All right, let's talk about a young man I like. But this was officially a bad day at the office. Jalen hurts four picks in a fumble and a passer rating slightly over 31.
One thing, let's stop arguing about this. One thing that has become obvious for Jalen Hurts, he is a circumstances quarterback. If the O line's perfectly healthy, if the offensive coordinator is great, if Saquon Barkley is having a amazing nighter season, if the defense is number one like last year, he's really successful. Justin Herbert's doing it with no ifs. Some quarterbacks are hot air balloons. They're dependent on the weather. Justin Herbert and some quarterbacks are fighter pilots. Just give me the coordinates. I like Jaylen Herz Intangibles A But the Eagles have now lost five straight games when they asked Jalen Hurts to just throw 30 times. Just 30. Last night he had to throw 40 times and became the only quarterback to have two turnovers on one play. The Eagles have a head coach that is entirely dependent on offensive coordinators and a quarterback that's dependent on on mostly a perfect setting. Last year's Super Bowl Colin. Last year's Super Bowl. Oh, give me a break. They won a Super bowl with Nick Foles. This is a general manager owner first franchise I've said this about Nick Sirianni, the top head coaches, Shanahan, we've seen Matt Leflore do it this year. McVeigh, Vrabel, they can fix a broken side of the ball. LaFleur's offense was broken a month ago. Now it's great we've seen Vrabel do this. The O lines banged up. He can fix it in season. I don't think Sirianni can. I don't think that's who he is. I'm watching that game last night and it hit me. It's hard to believe the positivity bunny didn't work. It didn't have a bigger impact. I thought that thing was a goofy reach and I wonder about his future because Philly is like LSU football. They don't win, they don't care. No sacred cows with the Philadelphia Eagles. They've moved off super bowl winning quarterbacks and super bowl winning coaches. But I, I don't want to hear I love Lane Johnson but you got Saquon and that defense and Devonte Smith and AJ Brown and yeah, AJ dropped a pass and I love so much about Jalen Hurts but he's a circumstances quarterback if everything's lined up. That's not what Herbert was last night Chargers had no no business winning that game that whole line against that Philly D. Come on. Here's Sirianni on The ugly night for Jalen hurts. This game is the ultimate team game. So it's all, it's never, you know, it's never just on one person. Now, ultimately, he always has the ball in his hands, and I know he'll. He'll wear a lot of that and own that. And I got to do a better job of helping him in those scenarios. Again, it's always, it's never just on execution. Right. Obviously never want to turn the ball over. We've been pretty good at that. And tonight was a little uncharacteristic of ourselves. They're probably still going to win their division, but the NFC east, arguably it's one of the weaker divisions. If you go look at the standings right now in the NFL, almost without exception, whoever leads them either has a great coach like a Sean Payton, a Mike Frable, or you have a great quarterback. There are very few exceptions on that.
Some are high profile, you know, like, like Philadelphia. Some are like the Texans. Great coach, great defense. But right now, what's great, I mean, the personnel is. But I mean, we all know this. Sirianni is totally coordinator dependent. And last night was another example that Jalen is a circumstantial guy. If everything's in line, he can win a Super Bowl. But remember, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Trend over. Won a Super Bowl. Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. Rex Grossman got to a Super Bowl. Stan Humphries got to a Super Bowl. Fine professional athletes, but sometimes things line up with the Eagles. This year just things haven't quite perfectly lined up and they are an absolute mess on offense. So what a, what a, what a wild, wild game. Last night I kept waiting for the dam to burst. J. Mac, you kept thinking, okay, Philadelphia's got too many good players. Philadelphia is going to win this football game. And there is something to be said about perseverance and just hanging around. I thought Justin Herbert in overtime, he didn't want to run. And even Harbaugh was just calling it, just Justin, just get us first downs. Move the chains. It's, I would say this, it's a top five gut check win all season by a team. Yeah, I mean, it was really. There was a lot of reasons. I mean, Philadelphia was a road favorite and for most of the game, you kept saying, okay, they can't throw another pick. Right. The Eagles can't keep turning it over. And they just, the Chargers just stayed close, hung in. And then in overtime, you know, it's funny, when it went to overtime was the first time the entire game. I'm like, oh, the Chargers will win.
Really?
I felt I all night I thought Philadelphia all night I'm like, they can't keep throwing picks.
Well, you know, he didn't get any help from AJ Brown on the final drive. AJ Brown had three drops for the game, dropped a touchdown in the corner of the end zone. That's a tough one for Philly Cullen. I'm just worried about Justin Herbert. Can he continue to survive this? They got the Chiefs this week in probably one of the biggest games of the season and he needs to not get sacked seven times on the road.
I'll just say this. I don't think the Chiefs are dead yet. I don't think the season's over. If they beat the Chargers, we're going to start hearing here comes Mahomes, here comes Andy Reid.
Isn't it remarkable though, the betting markets? The Chargers are what, like a three and a half point underdog? And you watch the Chiefs offense, what do they do?
Well, well, they don't block the guy who got hurt on the first play. He's out for the season now.
It's like, so it's the market still respects the Chiefs. Yeah, the market does. But you're watching them and you're like, this is what a dynasty does. You keep giving it in your mind. You keep giving it chance after chance after chance. I think the Chargers are a better team than Chiefs. I agree.
I mean, does the market know that Andy Reid has turned into Dan Campbell going for all these four downs?
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Yeah, you'd think Notre Dame they got so many smart people at the university would get how petty, small, whiny and bad they look this week. So their athletic director in Notre Dame I've always been a fan because they ask their kids to go to class. It's hard. It's very academic. The religious umbrella. It's rural, it's in the middle of nowhere. It's not easy to win. It's not glamorous. The weather's lousy in the winter and sometimes the fall. Like I respect them, but they always love being independent, you know, on their own island. And yet now they won't commit full time to a conference. Now they don't like being on that island. Here is Pete Babaqua, the AD on the Dan Patrick show, not liking the fact that at the ACC seemed to promote Miami more than, you know, half member Notre Dame. Just we didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly and compared to Miami. But it raised a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots. We were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack. You know, their biggest really business partner in football and a member of their conference in in 24 of our other sports. They have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and Notre Dame. Yeah, what relationship? You're dating. The ACC has proposed to Notre Dame three times and they won't say yes. You've heard the song Put a Ring on It. I mean you won't even allow the ACC to meet your parents. Sorry Notre Dame. It's a bad look. Notre Dame has loved their independence. Last time they won a Natty there were 25 independent programs. Now even BYU figured it out. Join a Conference. So if you had a therapist, this will be called gaslighting. You're making something up. You won't commit to the ACC. Miami's been a 21 year fully committed member. They put a ring on it. So don't be shocked if the ACC is like, yeah, yeah, we think, we think Miami beat him head to head. We're going to push for Miami. So this idea that Notre Dame, people that love their independence, guess what? When times get tough, you want that conference behind you. I mean, Texas has the sec. They're a full member. They could have stayed in the other conference, but the SEC is fighting for Vandy in Alabama. They're fighting for Texas. They're fully committed. Notre Dame won't fully commit to the ACC. Miami has for 21 years. So all you are Notre Dame is South Bend with benefits.
Nobody's there for you when you're not fully committed.
Let me give you a little bit of advice. Take the L. It's not working. Nobody buys it. You're not a full member. You could be. They'd love to have you. Congrats. You are in volleyball. We all know one sport in college pays all the Bills. Football. And the ACC would love to have you. Academically, athletically, you won't commit. Here's how. Vanderbilt's Clark Lee, the head coach. Here's what this university and this coach said when they, like Notre Dame, just missed being voted in.
That's no one's fault except for our own. You know, we had our opportunities and we didn't do enough. And so that's the, you know, we are not victims in this process. We're. Our ownership is in, is in coming up short. I think it, it's a reminder of how critical every moment is, every snap, every possession. And there's a lot to learn in this season because we want to be back in these moments. It's. This has always been so simple. Notre Dame, you played Texas A and M and Miami. To start the season, you just had to win one of those games. That's it. But Notre Dame schedule, because they're not a full member, was awful. Go look at their schedule. They played the worst team in the acc, in the sec, in the Big Ten, they had five different opponents with eight plus losses. It was a bad, bad schedule. You know whose schedule's not bad? Texas. Because Texas fully joined the sec. You know whose schedule wasn't weak? Oklahoma or USC or Oregon or UCLA because they all fully joined a conference. So I'm not anti Notre Dame. I'm anti reaction anti 72 hour wine fest. It's not working.
You're not galvanizing the country behind you. Take the L and move on. I'll defend you on skipping the bowl games because I think those things are doa and I think you're a good football team that could have won a playoff game, but this has been a bad look. A conference that has loved that independence now is shocked that the ACC more righteously defended a the right team, Miami, who beat Notre Dame and be the full fledged 21 year member. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.
This is the Herd line news. Big NFL game on Sunday, Colin. Mike Vrabel's Patriots off a buy host the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, rematch from earlier this season won by the Patriots. Obviously it's a must have game for Buffalo, but you know, I can't make a case for the Patriots here. I know you kind of want to, but Colin, let's go to Vrabo here talking about clinching the division with a potential win this weekend.
Well, I don't use a pad T shirt. We're just trying to play for the championship that we have available this week. And I think it's a great testament to our players that put us in this position to be able to do that. And again, that's not going to be easy. This is a very good football team. There's a reason that they've won this division five years in a row. A lot of respect for him.
You know, never out of it, never down. Yeah. The truth is Buffalo is down 10 in the fourth quarter at home to 4 and 8 Cincinnati. If it wasn't for Burrow throwing one of his worst picks ever, that one, that, that little floater from 5ft. If that doesn't happen, Cincinnati wins. That esque. Yeah, it was. But I mean it's so, it's, it's an interesting line where the better team, the more consistent team at home as an underdog, the team that's already won at Buffalo. I, I gotta tell you, I am, I felt when I watched Buffalo Sunday, once again it was Josh Allen saving Sean McDermott's job. That's what it feels like to me.
Well, some of these divisional rematches, you know, there's another one, Carolina Saints. I know nobody cares about that, but remember the Saints beat them earlier this year. Carolina needs this game. Buffalo needs this. Yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough for me to go against Josh Allen. This feels like a hero mode. Josh Allen game.
Yes.
I need 15 carries. I'm doing it.
So Josh Allen and the Bills are three. And, oh, this year, when they've scored, when they've surrendered like 32 points. Okay. The rest of the league is 6, 61 and 2. Yeah. So, I mean, he is literally Supermanning like 3. This could be the fourth one. Because the one thing I'll say that Buffalo's weakness, Jason, is they don't defend the run. And New England's O lines banged up and they don't run the ball consistently. So certain teams are going to really take advantage of Buffalo. I don't think the Patriots right now, because of their injuries, are built to punish Buffalo's run defense.
This is probably. I'm sure this is going to be considered a hot take. It's not the biggest deal if Buffalo loses this game.
Colin.
It's not the end of the world if they're a wild card, you know, all that means is they have to go to Pittsburgh or Jacksonville. Okay. Or Denver. I don't think they're afraid of any of those teams. Is Buffalo much worse than those three?
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They might be favored against Jacksonville or Pittsburgh. They already crushed Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, so I know it's a huge game. I. I still think Buffalo comes out of the afc. As long as Josh Allen's breathing. That's got to be my.
I agree. I agree.
He's the best player. All right, let's move on to. Oh, boy, this one still hurts. The Baltimore Ravens and the TD taken away from Isaiah likely. I mean, everybody watching knew this is a touchdown. And of course, John Harbaugh called the league office for clarity on the rule, then went and talked to the media and here's what Harbaugh had to say.
That's a complicated kind of a question there. Like, am I comfortable? You know? No. Do I think there needs more clarification? Yeah, it's about as clear as mud right now. That's how I feel about it.
The catch rule.
Clear as mud. Mud is not clear.
Yeah, I, you know, sometimes you see things I said yesterday. The Calvin Johnson touchdown against the Bears may have been 20 years ago and they had changed the catch ruling and it confused all of us. And for the next decade, we couldn't figure out what a catch was in real time. And in replay, it feels like catch two feet down, third going down, ball knocked out. I know at the 40 yard line this would be incomplete. Right. Because you have to have forward motion, but in the end zone, you're not going anywhere. It's about. And the end zone's always been tricky. We Talked about this yesterday. A running back at the one can get hit, fumbled out of the end zone. The other team gets the ball. So this is the, you know, I, I, I just thought end zone. To me it was always ball security, two feet down, no other rule applied. That's what I always thought the rule was.
And this could cost the Ravens a playoff spot. Colin, they are short favorites at the Bengals this week. I don't, could be over for Baltimore. I think that could be an off season of change maybe in Baltimore. Final story column that's just broke before the show to Major League Baseball where the Dodgers have won back to back World Series crowns. They had one weakness last year. You, you hammered them all year for it and that was the bullpen. Well, they fixed that. They just stole Mets closer Edwin Diaz three year, $69 million deal. Colin, the Dodgers, no salary cap in baseball. That was a topic for you last week.
Well, this allows them to take roki like the 23 year old Japanese sensation that they moved to the bullpen, not because they wanted to. Remember, Dave Roberts came on our show and they went to him and said, would you mind, our bullpen's a mess. We've blown 30 saves or something, 26 saves. Would you go to the bullpen? And it worked. Yeah. This allows the Dodgers to now move Roki back to the starting rotation, which makes their starting rotation with Yoshi Glass.
Now, Snell, they're stacked and by the way, they're not done shopping. There's a report that they're going after Tariq Skubal, the Cy Young Award winner from the Tigers. Now, I don't know if we'll get, if they'll get him. Dodgers, listen, I'm with you. Listen, if these are the rules, no salary cap, do whatever you want, you know, just spend money. Dodgers are going to get everybody.
People, I've said this, people always talk. You know what a great baseball city New York is. The Dodgers outdraw the second best drawing team in the sport, I believe by 7,000 fans a night. And I'll say this, it is a beautiful stadium and a brilliantly run organization, but anybody in LA would tell you it's not the easiest stadium to get in and out.
Oh yeah, that's rough.
It's, it's not great, but it's a gorgeous stadium. But, and I'll say this, people will say this feels like KD to the Warriors. Well, Katie to the warriors got better ratings than the seven year seven championship OKC title last year. I like dynasties. I said this, I Don't think last year qualified as the best baseball team ever because their bullpen was so bad during the regular season, they had to kind of bondo it and patchwork it. Diaz.
Yeah, you saw the stats on the screen. The Dodgers blew 27 saves, Diaz blew three. So a significant upgrade to the ball, but there it is. I mean, this guy was lights out. How did the Mets let him walk? I mean, what about your guy, Steve Cohen? I thought he had all the money.
You know, it's funny, in New York City, I spend a lot of time in Chicago now, and people ask me all the time, what do you make of Chicago sports? And I say, now, I think Tom Ricketts, who owns the Cubs, that's an elite owner. But I said, L. A has got incredible owners. I mean, now the Dodgers owners are the best. Now they own the Lakers. Oh, yeah, here we go. The Chargers, who people used to say are frugal, are no longer frugal. They're paying that coaching staff a fortune. The Rams are brilliantly run. Now usc, all their boosters have stood up number one recruiting class.
The Clippers have the rich owner. A bit of a circus, but I was. When people ask me about that, I always say what LA has is incredibly well funded. Smart ownership groups. I don't think there's a city in the. There's some good ownership.
Well, it's not a tough sell if you're a rich guy to come out to Los Angeles and live. You're out here.
Well, most of the borders out here are tied to the California economy, which is the fourth biggest in the world.
Yeah.
So J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. Some interesting stuff going on. So we did the. Yesterday this broke. This news broke on the show that Cleveland, Kevin Stefanski has said Shador is going to finish the season.
And it's really interesting. When Tim Tebow was a sensation, I didn't buy it, but I got it. He was winning and he had the Christianity connection. So he was beloved and he was winning. He wasn't very good, but I got it. The Shadour Sanders conspiracy theorists are really bizarre. Shador's not winning, and his popularity also isn't tied to productivity. They think Cleveland, desperate for winning, is out to get him. And I. I'm not saying I get all popular things. I don't get K pop like I don't get. But. But I understand its popularity, you know, different. It's. It's pop music, which is often popular, and different musical genres. But the. The whole thing with Shador Sanders is he's more like the trend. Six, seven. I don't understand it and nobody's explained it to me. It's just over the head. I think there's a lamelo Ball thing here. Where is Shadour Sanders the first quarterback influencer? That's what I think it is, is that you see this stuff all the time. You see these young business people and their product's not very good or it's average, but they play Instagram well and TikTok and there's people making millions of dollars and they're like influencers. I think Shador Sanders is our first quarterback influencer. I think LaMelo Ball had that feel like Lamelo wasn't a winning player. But he connected with the kids. And so I'm happy for Shador Sanders. I honestly think he's a. He's kind of a chill kid. He's a little silly for me. I like my quarterbacks to be a bit more serious and adult. That's not his thing. But the whole conspiracy theory group like Tebow was winning Christianity. I got it. Shador is much better. I think it's this simple and I don't know why everybody can't see this. Dylan Gabriel, because he came out of a college program with better coaching.
Oregon was more prepared initially than Shador, but Shador is more talented. And so Dylan was better to start early. But Shador's talent eventually would surpass low ceiling. Dylan Gabriel. It's not that. And this happens all the time. Anybody listening or watching that has kids. Sometimes boys grow more slowly than girls. They mature more slowly. Dylan comes out of a football factory in Oregon. He is well coached and well schooled. He's won a lot of games, great coaching, NFL players around him. Oregon's an NFL factory and he's ready sooner than Shedeur is. Shedeur comes from Colorado. Not a lot of NFL guys around him. Travis Hunter was great. The coaching staff isn't as good as Oregon. He's not. He's too loose, he's too immature. He's not quite ready. He's getting speeding tickets. He not ready. But eventually Shedeur has more big play potential, has probably a little better arm and eventually the talent wins. That's to me, the stories. I mean, Dylan Gabriel was more ready probably because he had the most college football starts ever. So Dylan was just the kid in the family that's a little more prepared, but maybe less talented than his brother.
Sometimes talent takes a while. It's a bit more mature. Dylan was just ready sooner, but he had a low ceiling. So I, I don't think anybody's out to get him. Here was Stefanski on allowing keeping Shador rest of the year. It's a good call. As the guy with our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making sure that you're making the right decisions for our guys. And I think he's, he has constantly and consistently gotten better in each one of these games and how he's approached this game. He's been working very hard, so I feel good about where his development is heading. He knows there's, there are always going to be plays that he can be better and, and those type of things, but he's very intentional about getting better each and every game he's out there. So 90% of you watching could not diagram a football play. Okay, so Kevin Stefanski knows more about football than you and me. I think it's really simple. Dylan Gabriel came into pro football with a zillion starts. He was just more ready initially to play. And the Colorado program's a little looser, not quite NFL level like Oregon, but eventually Shador is going to get the going to get the nod and going to perform at a higher level. But Shador has not helped himself with the legendary draft room and bombing interviews and the speeding tickets. A lot of that's just immaturity, but it does appear every time he's at the podium. Shador is a little more mature, a little more focused and he's hard to root against. Like I I don't think Melo Ball is a guy I'd build around in the NBA, but I seems like a likable kid. He's fun. Kids like him. So the T bow thing I understood the shador conspiracy stuff is 6, 7 like people have tried to explain it. I still don't get it. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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So Jordan love is now finally making a surge toward the MVP odds. It's really interesting and I'm guilty of this. We tend to crown young quarterbacks probably before they need to be crowned. I love Bo Knicks as a rookie he still had a lot of growth. Jaden Daniels, I'm like that's the best rookie quarterback I've ever seen. There's only one quarterback in the NFL it feels like is the opposite who's been great for several years and nobody will crown him Jordan Love of the Packers. I have, I would call it the Colin criteria. There are certain things I love and he checks all the boxes. His hat's on forward. He's great at the podium. He's big. I like traits, short memory after bad interceptions. He's mobile but actually prefers the pocket. He's aggressive on the deep ball. He loves to throw it deep, spreads the ball around the teammates, never gets in trouble at the podium. Yet outside of Wisconsin people are really whoa, whoa. I text last night a GM in the league and I said if you had Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love both available on the market. He's he said come on 6, 4, 2, 20, doesn't throw picks, doesn't need a great O line. He's like everybody, every GM in the league would take Jordan Love but you'll get pushback on that. And so and I've thought about this before, what is it with Jordan Love? And my guess is if they win this weekend against Denver, he gets a five game winning streak. He just has never gone on that fav heater or that Aaron Rodgers heater. And even the win over Chicago you're like well it was the defense with an interception. But I this is one of these everything I want in my quarterback grateful, humble hat on forward, adult aggressive, but doesn't take unnecessary Risks. He is the one quarterback in the league that's great, but nobody will crown him. He's just a. He's tremendous.
Tremendous. And I actually think this weekend, Green Bay and Denver feels like, to some, a preview of the Super Bowl. Here's. Here's Jordan Love on that Bears win this weekend. So let's go win it. You know, I mean, this is. This is. This is all we got right here. You know, I think there was eight minutes left, you know, so it's just, let's go win it. But I think everybody knows what time it is. They know what. What this drive means and what we got to go out there and do. So it's one of those things that, you know, what's understood. Understood doesn't have to be explained. And everybody has that mindset that we got to go answer. All right. Herd hierarchy. And Nick Wright, who came on the show yesterday, first things first, on a stretcher after a rough weekend for the Kansas City Chiefs, we'll get. We'll show you that.
So people don't like change. You know that. I know that.
When the NIL entered college football and college sports, people freaked out. It's the end of times. It'll make the rich richer. Well, I don't know. Seems to me Indiana was not a powerhouse in college football before nil. And Vandy, little old private school Vandy wasn't nearly this good. The NIL has done two very positive things. Number one is it's paying college players who before the NIL often went from broke to rich as a pro athlete. So it's dipping their feet in financial waters. Gives them some financial responsibility, gives them some financial education. I like that. I like college guys getting a little bit of money in most cases. Most guys are making less than 10,000 in college, but it gives them a little taste of money. They can grow with it, you know, not enough to get in trouble like sometimes pro athletics does. So I like that about it. The second thing I really like about it is that a lot of these college football players who are even good, they're not ready for pro football. So there's a story today that Fernando Mendoza has locked up number one and that Ty Simpson may stay at Alabama. I think Ty Simpson needs to stay at Alabama. I think there's an argument Dante Moore needs to stay at Oregon. Now, Fernando Mendoza, that's a NFL quarterback now, he's just playing on Saturdays. Six, five. Big arm. Timing, accuracy. Grateful. Tough kid. Great story, Fernando. There's like five or six guys in college football that you Watch. And they're essentially pro players now. They're just playing on Saturday. The kid, the Notre Dame running back, Jeremiah Love, that's a pro player. He's playing on Saturdays. Arvell Reese the linebacker for Ohio State. Caleb Downs the safety for Ohio State. Reuben Bain the rush end for Miami. That Reuben Bain's a pro football player. He's just playing on Saturdays and they're taking care of him at Miami. There's a handful of guys every year. You see there's about half a dozen. You're like yeah, that's a pro. He's just still in college. And those guys now get paid. But I think what's really interesting about the nil is that Dante Moore at Oregon could make 4 million next year. Ty Simpson at Bama could make 3 1/2 million.
So what it's going to create.
This is interesting. J Mac, it's going to grow the middle class of quarterbacks. People ask who's going to want Kyler Murray several teams because only one surefire quarterback is coming out of college. Who's going to like Daniel Jones? Look, the Colts do. Who's going to like Mac Jones? So it's one thing for Darnold and Baker Mayfield to get a second or third chance. I do believe both are elite quarterback talents. I don't look at Daniel Jones or Mac Jones like that. But I think it's fascinating. I like the NIL giving some really talented college kids a little bit of money. Some will make a million bucks, most don't. It gives them a sense some responsibility before they go from, you know, it was 10 years ago, college guy broke, college guy rich. That is a lot as you're moving to pro basketball or football. I'll give you an example. The NIL has helped college basketball guys like Zach Eady. Purdue stayed one more year in college. Well Zach Edie's become a very good pro that year of maturity. Remember boys, men, gross frontal lobe, whatever it is, they grow up slower, they mature more slowly than girls. So I think the NIL everybody thought it was going to be the end of the world. Well Vandy and Indiana are now really, really good football programs. They weren't before. I mean Vandy feels like they just signed a five star quarterback. That's not Vandy football. It's an academic powerhouse. So I, I, I also think by, by having these college kids like Ty Simpson and Dante Moore potentially stay in college you'll have fewer NFL busts at quarterback. So it's a win win for the kid. A win win for NFL and it's a win for the middle class of quarterbacks. The Mac Jones, the Kyler Murray's, the Daniel Jones. You're going to see more of those and hopefully Kyler Murray gets a better situation than Arizona. And Daniel Jones definitely got a better situation with Shane Steichen than the New York Giants. And I think Mac Jones, hopefully he gets a better situation than that mess that was Belichick in New England. So there you go. We fear what we don't know. We fear what could pull away from us and nobody like the nil. The kids are winning. I think the quarterback situation, the middle class situation in the NFL, they'll win. You'll have fewer NFL busts at quarterback, you'll get more starts in college, easier for pro teams to evaluate the college quarterback. I like it all the way around.
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Episode: Chargers rise as the Eagles fall, what is wrong with Jalen Hurts?
Date: December 9, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts & The Volume
Colin Cowherd opens the show with a deep dive into the thrilling Chargers' overtime win against the Eagles, analyzing the resilience of Justin Herbert and the Chargers' coaching staff amidst adversity. The episode pivots to a critical assessment of Jalen Hurts and the systemic issues plaguing the Philadelphia Eagles, as well as broader NFL and college football conversations including Buffalo Bills scenarios, college football independence, NIL impact, and the evolving landscape of quarterback development.
Chargers' Resilience and Coaching Prowess
Contrast with the Eagles' Excuse Culture
Hurts' Troubles and Limitations
Failure to Fix Offensive Mess
"I love so much about Jalen Hurts but he's a circumstances quarterback if everything’s lined up. That’s not what Herbert was last night." – Colin Cowherd (11:15)
Nick Sirianni Post-Game on Hurts’ Struggles:
Chargers vs Chiefs, Market Perceptions
Buffalo Bills’ Do-Or-Die Scenario
Baltimore Ravens Controversial Non-TD
Notre Dame’s “Bad Look” with Conference Drama
Scheduling Impact on Playoff Hopes
Shadour Sanders: The Quarterback Influencer?
QB Prep: Talent vs. Readiness
Coach Kevin Stefanski’s Perspective:
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"The Chargers are now 9 and 4. They lost a Bosa, both Pro bowl level tackles, on their third string running back and last night their quarterback's off hand surgery—and they beat a stacked Eagles roster." – Colin Cowherd (04:22)
"This team is 13 and 4 the last two seasons after week eight. That is coaching, culture, toughness, resilience." (06:33)
"Jalen Hurts is a circumstances quarterback. If the O line's perfectly healthy, if the OC is great... he's really successful. Justin Herbert’s doing it with no ifs." (08:35)
"Herbert's pressured 68% of the throws. They should have been blown out." (05:49)
"If you don't get Justin Herbert, you don't get it. That kid's taken a beating, a record setting beating. He's under siege." (05:23)
"Nick Sirianni is totally coordinator dependent." (12:17)
"Notre Dame, people that love their independence, guess what? When times get tough, you want that conference behind you… All you are, Notre Dame, is South Bend with benefits." (21:18)
"I think Shadour Sanders is our first quarterback influencer." (33:58)
"If you had Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love both available...every GM in the league would take Jordan Love but you'll get pushback on that." (44:23)
Cowherd’s tone throughout is confident, slightly irreverent, and highly opinionated. He blends analysis with storytelling, is quick to call out perceived excuses, and doesn’t shy away from hot takes (“South Bend with benefits”, “circumstance quarterback”, “quarterback influencer”).
This summary captures the episode's nuance, memorable lines, hottest takes, and essential football analysis for both NFL and college football fans.