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Rob Parker
Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Monday. We are raring to go live in Los Angeles. Yeah, I got a cold but colds are for wimps baby. Who's missing on Monday? Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. J. Mac so you have been on me for about a month with my devotion to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. And you know last year and we talked about this, Kansas City was 11 and oh in these one score games and we were like that's kind of random. Well, they're all in four this year so let's start with this. Listen, there is a thread, there is a trend when Kansas City loses. It's usually not the defense or a drop pass or the run game. It's because Patrick Mahomes is uncomfortable. Last night Kansas City was terrible on third down, dominated time of possession, only got 16 first downs. Mahomes hit 15 times. This is why they've been blown out in a couple Super Bowls. Josh Allen Conversely 23 of 26 because Josh Allen was comfortable all night and and Mahomes was never comfortable for three and a half hours. That defensive front, Joey Bosa, that's why they signed him. He's a pain in the butt and Andy Reid knows it last night. So there is a way to beat Kansas City when they lose. And sometimes they lose ugly. Mahomes is getting hit. Now it's not all roses and rainbows for Buffalo, okay? Kansas City lost 28, 21 and had the ball late. Trade deadline tomorrow. Buffalo needs to go out and upgrade. This was an instructive win. Kansas City probably is just going to get healthier up front. Going to cross their fingers a little. Buffalo's got a hole. They got a hole. But there is a trend when Mahomes this year is hit seven times or more, they're one in three. And so last night's a great example. It felt like one of those games we've watched him lose in the super bowl where you're just like, he's not comfortable. He doesn't trust his own line. He lets go of the ball early and he still almost pulled it out. But if you're Buffalo, just think about this. Josh Allen's nearly perfect. You run for 140 yards, you're at home, you're perfect in the red zone, you dominate time of possession, you win the turnover battle. And Mahomes had the ball late going for the tie. So again, not all losses are awful losses and not all wins mean you've solved everything. I watched Buffalo and my takeaway is how does Kansas City have a chance to tie this game? They got punched in the forehead for three and a half hours and we're moving the ball down the field. I mean, that stuff was nightmare fuel for Buffalo late. You're thinking, oh, they're not going to do it again after they clank the field goal. So the one thing though, we kept saying last year Kansas City, Philadelphia was the best team last year. I think right now there's an argument the LA Rams are the best team for the second straight year. The best teams over in the NFC, not the AFC. AFC's got the better quarterbacks. I think the NFC's got the better teams. But last year this team was unbeaten 11 and oh in one score games. And now they're all and four. The only team worst the league is the Texans. So that's your company. So the last two years, Kansas City's had a hole on that offensive line. They had to let go Joe Tudi. This year Joe Tunney's now a Bear. So Buffalo, don't pat yourself in the back. Howie Roseman's already made a move. Go upgrade wide receiver. Go upgrade wide receiver. You beat him. It doesn't mean you're going to beat him in January. Here's Patrick Mahomes on the loss. We've had great moments, we've had bad moments. We got to be more consistent as a team. I got to be more consistent at quarterback and we got to be able to battle. I mean we've kind of been in a lot of these tight close games in our history, but they're not going our way now. So how can we deal with that adversity? How can we be better and learn from it? I mean you only learn from so many losses. I mean you gotta gotta learn from it fast. And it's gonna be an uphill battle when we get back. But I think our guys are up to it. Yeah, again, there are not every win solves all your issues. Learn from stuff. I want to talk about the Chicago Bears. So much in life and in sports is just getting slightly better. I always tell my kids that you don't have to take big swings. You can hit a lot of singles and doubles in life just get a little better. Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears football operation just keeps getting a little better. They lose that game last year. Five wins this year already matches last year and four of the five have been ugly. They are winning ugly. Who cares? They're winning. Last Friday I said I like Chicago in this game because when Caleb gets a run game like he did against Dallas or Cincinnati, he's very effective. He doesn't throw picks. He didn't in high school, he didn't in college. He doesn't in the NFL. So he's maintained that he's not throwing picks. They had a run game yesterday. Last year they were atrocious in one score games they were 3 and 7. This year they're 3 and 1. There is an art to winning ugly. Kansas City did it last year. Now you're not going to keep doing it year after year after year. But Kansas City was great at those close games. This year they're not for a variety of reasons. So the Bears offense right now is fourth in the NFL, believe it or not. And Ben Johnson yesterday, four different Bears through a pass. He's gotten into his tricks. You know what it tells me when Ben Johnson now is using more tricks is that Ben Johnson now is more confident in the base operation. That's what it tells me. Ben's like, okay, now I can do some tricks. Now we can get a little fancy. Ben didn't Want to do that quite as much early because he didn't trust the foundational stuff. But yesterday they ran for over 280 yards. It was a real offense. Now the defense has major holes. This is not a Super bowl team. They got to solve the defense. But I have said before, when the season started, I said, do not get paralyzed by the Chicago Bears win loss record. I think I had him at eight wins. I said number one, you gotta cut the sacks in half. Well, last year through eight games, 29 sacks. This year they've cut it in half. So again, this is not rocket science. They're running the ball better, they're taking fewer sacks, they're winning the turnover battle. It's not science. A lot of this stuff is, can you just look like a grown up adult business, just improve a little. And not only year to year have the Bears improve, but every week now they're using a few more tricks. Now they've got a little more confidence. So between Ben Johnson's brain power and Caleb's brain and horsepower, it's a real football team. There's going to be, with Caleb, there's going to be wow moments. Here's the walk off touchdown mostly. Walk off to Colston Loveland. Benunje motions left, they're blitzing. It's picked up.
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Caleb throws middle of the field. Loveland catch breaks away the 30. Loveland 20. Loveland 10 Loveland end zone Touchdown Bears. Colston Loveland and a throw by Caleb Williams on the blitz with 17 seconds to go.
Rob Parker
Now they shouldn't have needed that touchdown the win because they gave one up on the other side as Joe Flacco threw for almost five football fields. But that's okay. I mean yesterday is a great example. I mean go look at the Raiders Jags games, I mean go look at around the NFL. The Colts all year pushed people around yesterday. They got, they got worked. You don't know. I mean Denver literally wins only one way in the fourth quarter, constantly trailing. So you can't, you can't worry about it. The bottom line is this was going to be a shootout. The Bears defense gives up a ton of yards per play. And the Bengals was atrocious. But so much in life and in sports is just getting a little better. There's a lot of singles and doubles out there. That's to me what I see from the operation, it's what I see from Caleb, Ben Johnson now more trick plays, has a little more confidence, more sets, more motion, more looks. That's what it looks like to me. Here's Caleb after speaking to coach throughout.
Interviewee/Guest
The week, we knew that this is an explosive offense. They can score at any moment. They can score. He said it before the game, a day before the game or so that, you know, we get up by two touchdowns, don't. Don't feel good or comfortable. The guys after the game, it doesn't matter that they put up how many ever points they put up. We're all excited for this win. This is a big moment for us, you know, to be able to go into this next quarter of the season.
Rob Parker
The one thing I'll always say about Caleb Williams, he is a thick, strong kid, so he doesn't get hurt and he doesn't throw a lot of picks. He's got, you know, he's got a big arm for his size. I'm actually taller than him. He's not a real tall guy, but you never think about his height because he plays so big. He's thick, he's got a huge arm. He plays with a ton of confidence. He missed a couple of layups yesterday. He missed a couple of easy ones. He's completing about 61% of his throws. That's not his bread and butter. He's. He's kind of the opposite of Kirk Cousins. Right. You're not going to get the easy stuff, but the ceiling, he'll blow through it, you know, four times a game. But you got to feel good. They're better, they've got a quarterback. It's not very often we say on a Monday, I love the Bears offense. I don't know what's going on in Green Bay. You don't say that a lot over the last 30 years. But the Bears offense is getting better and the packers offense is completely lost. And we'll talk about that J. Mac from the World Series, which is the best I've ever seen to. You know, this league is so funky. You just like the Colts yesterday totally worked. Yeah. Lions, Vikings was weird. I have my thoughts on the packers and I've always defended Matt Leflore. But I'll say this again. I think the Rams are the best team in the nfc. I think we pay so much and I think. I think Howie Roseman, the GM of Philadelphia, making moves. He knows it.
Colin Cowherd
So that Rams win over the Saints.
Kelvin Washington
No, that's not it.
Colin Cowherd
When the Saints had the ball for 16 years.
Rob Parker
No, what it is, though, in a league of upsets and weird finishes, that was the most predictable game in the first series on. It was like workmanlike.
Colin Cowherd
Game over.
Kelvin Washington
Yeah.
Rob Parker
And the other Thing is, the Rams have an identity. The Bears are starting to find an identity. The Bills last night run the ball, pass rush have an identity. Packers don't. So this is a time of the year where, you know, because these games get close, you don't have a full roster. Everybody's beat up. There are no perfectly healthy teams. So what do you do when you're missing five starters? This is why San Francisco's winning. They have an identity. They're all beat up. But when you don't have a full roster or your backup quarterback, okay, guys, this is what we are. San Francisco is Christian McCaffrey. This is what we are. The packers don't have an identity.
Colin Cowherd
They didn't punt yesterday. They went up and down the field. Just a lot of mistakes. Which led me to believe. Remember we talked about it being a trap game last week against Aaron Rodgers, next week against the Eagles in primetime. And this is the lowly Panthers who Panthers have, I think the same number of wins as the Kansas City Chiefs are something close to that. Like the Panthers are they good?
Rob Parker
I said on Friday, I said on Friday show watch out for the Panthers. I had a feeling it was a trap game. And if you watch Carolina's defense, you know, when you have high draft picks year after year after year, you got dudes.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Rob Parker
Like they got some receivers now that.
Colin Cowherd
Tucker Kraft injury for the Packers.
Rob Parker
Brutal.
Colin Cowherd
Becoming a tight end. League two tight ends, three tight ends.
Kelvin Washington
Yep.
Rob Parker
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Welcome back. You know it's funny, everybody wants me to love their young quarterback. I love Drake May. I think Michael Penix is really good. You know I love Bo Nicks. Caleb's coming around. I feel terrible for Jaden Daniels injured again. MO JJ McCarthy I feel like at Michigan is like yeah, they're not asking him to do much and everybody this morning is like whoa. What do you think of J.J. mcCarthy? Bo Nix is on a six game winning streak. Statistically he's the best fourth quarter quarterback in the league and you all keep telling me he stinks. My take on J.J. mcCarthy he was good on script. First quarter 141 passer rating rest of the game his passer rating was 38. I'm buying the coach Kevin O'. Connell. I'm buying Justin Jefferson. I buy the left tackle Christian Daras. How but but JJ McCarthy I felt like I was watching Michigan. JJ McCarthy don't screw it up and make one big throw. So Kevin O' Connell has made Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold look like first ballot hall of Famers. I don't have a lot of games. I got three games and again when I watch him I gave Caleb Williams credit when he was very good on script. J.J. mcCarthy on script with his brilliant head coach And Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and this Pro bowl left tackle, he's very good on script, and he. He deserves credit for it, but I. I don't have a lot. You know what it felt like? It felt like a Michigan game where the Vikings had more rush yards than passing yards. The. The story of the game used to be Michigan's defense, not their offense. And. And. And it was Minnesota's defense which wrecked Detroit's offensive line. And at the end of the game, J.J. mcCarthy made one great third down throw. I felt like I was watching Michigan's J.J. mcCarthy. By the way, in both of his Wins, he's won 27 to 24. He's thrown for exactly 143 passing yards. He's had two TDs and one pick. I feel like I'm watching the Michigan version now with this coach and this left tackle and these receivers that could be good enough to be a playoff team. But at Michigan, I loved Harbaugh. I love the defense, and I love Colston Loveland. That's how I feel. He's like the UPS driver. I don't know who he is, but they always deliver on time. The package is never screwed up. I love the delivery system. I don't know if the UPS driver is any good. Seems like a nice guy. So it just felt a lot like the Michigan JJ McCarthy, which is. I love the coach at Michigan and the tight end and the defense and the. And that's what I felt yesterday. It was fine. He was good on script, but it's not a script league, you know, and I said that about Caleb. It's great. He's coachable, but this. You get 13 possessions, 11 are not on script. And here's JJ McCarthy after the win over Detroit.
Interviewee/Guest
We really played very well on all three phases, but there's a lot of meat on the bone in all three phases. So we got to go back to work and, you know, make sure we correct all the little things. I'm happy that we got the win, but I'm not proud, to be honest with you. But there's a lot of meat on the bone, and I feel like I could have played a lot better, but coming into this environment and, you know, controlling my emotions, controlling, you know, kind of my temperament going into it, I was proud of that.
Rob Parker
Yeah, that. Perfect. That's exactly what he should have said. Perfect. He won. It was a road game. I will say this. Brian Flores. I hope he got a game ball, because, I mean, Detroit's offense, golf, got sacked five times, hit another 11 I think, I think Minnesota had 10 tackles for losses. They just blew up the Lions run game. Now Laporta was great. He always is. Amar on St. Brown, the game ball felt like a lot of these Michigan games. I'm giving it to the coach and the defense, but that's okay. It's a win. It's on the road, it's in division. You're good on the podium after you made a one big throw in the third. But you guys still hating on Bo Nix? He's on a heater. He's like, he's like Brady in the fourth quarter. You still don't like him. So I just need to see more J. Mac with the news.
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No, no, no.
Rob Parker
Turn on the news. This is the Herd lion. If I'm chugging vitamin C with turmeric today, I do apologize.
Colin Cowherd
A little turmeric action to start the day. Like it. All right, Colin, let's go. With Seattle Seahawks last night absolutely destroyed the Washington commanders. This was one of those rare primetime beatdowns on the road. I mean, they were up 28 nothing in this in no time flat. Sam Darnold, 16 of 16 in the first half. By the way, how about those Seahawks throwback jerseys? You had to love those.
Rob Parker
First of all, John Snyder's the gm. Just ask yourself, watching this game did not, did it not feel like a Power 4 team in college playing an out of conference game like Seattle was so much faster and so much bigger. Now there were backups playing for Washington at key spots, but this was my worst blazing five pick of the year. Even when I lose, I usually feel I'm on the right side. You could tell early, oh, second drive, you're like, oh, Sam is just playing pitch and catch. Jsn, is he the best receiver?
Colin Cowherd
I think right now he's the best receiver in the league. I mean, I know Justin Jefferson's awesome and Chase is awesome, but this guy's getting open and he's their top guy by a mile. Every defense knows we got to stop. Jsn and he's getting, he is real.
Rob Parker
I'm telling you, I said it after this draft. It was the second draft in a row that I thought arguably Seattle had the best draft. John Snyder. And they look the part and they're young, they're Green Bay level young. So they're going to get better and better.
Colin Cowherd
So Mike McDonald, whose team is one of the best in the NFC, let's be real. He's really proud of Sam Darnold.
Rob Parker
Believe me when I say that I'm not surprised. We watch Sam every day on how he operates, and he's the same guy every day, which is what you love about him. And we're chasing it. You know, the guys are determined and it's fun to watch. And when the team comes together, that's the type of stuff that you can do. Seattle is bizarrely dominant on the road.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, I was just gonna note as a young team at home against Arizona, short week, could be Kyler Murray back. But this Seattle team's interesting. I'm gonna give you something. This is better than your Broncos call last year because I don't think anybody had this Seattle team being this good. Colin, right now we saw the packers lose, the Lions lose. I know you love the Rams right now, but I think Seattle's really a dangerous team. That defense.
Rob Parker
So the Seattle would be my fifth year in a row that I took a team to make the playoffs that nobody doubted. And I did it because of John Snyder. I didn't do it just because of Darnold. Darnold's obviously much better than Geno Smith. He always has been. But that's not the case. I love the draft. You love the draft. And I think Seattle's last couple drafts, I said this Pete Carroll and John Snyder, there was a lot of that wasn't a healthy relationship at the end. Now John runs the drafts they have hit on. I mean, they have the last three years and there's seven or eight GMs.
Kelvin Washington
I talked to.
Rob Parker
John is one of the sharp guys. But boy, when you watch this team, they've got you that royal, the tight end. Jsn. These guys are only getting better.
Colin Cowherd
Remember they moved off Metcalf and Lockett and was like, oh, I don't know, what are they doing? I mean, they were pushing all the right buttons. It looks like when they come to the line, they look like a running team. And the next thing you know, like five guys go out in patterns and you're like, oh, my gosh, Seattle's dangerous.
Rob Parker
One of the most lopsided road standalone game wins I can remember.
Colin Cowherd
I mean, that being said, Washington is. Feels like a dead team. I thought that last week. I don't. We don't want to talk too much about Washington, but is Quinn in trouble right now? Like, no.
Rob Parker
But what you start to wonder, and this is fair to say, the injury was brutal. That's the fourth injury in two years for Jaden Daniels and I. And what concerns me is when your college issue or concern becomes your pro issue. Remember Johnny Manziel you're like, he's kind of small and he's kind of immature. And then he comes to the NFL and he's really small and immature. Jaden. The question with Jaden was he's really thin and can he endure that was the only question about him. Everybody loved him, but he is thin and we're seeing him now. I mean, he's clearly a great talent. But so much of this league was Favre and Eli Manning and Brady. You know, everybody's playing hurt. He, that injury is really gruesome.
Colin Cowherd
You like when, when Joe Alts out, you don't bet the chargers. When Terry McLaurin's out, don't bet the Washington commander. They have nothing on offense. Let's move on to the Rams sticking in the NFC West. Colin. They came out of the bye week and I mean, this was another destruction. They paced the Saints. It was not really close at all. Puka Nuku with a great catch. Here's the weird thing. I didn't even realize this. So Matt said. Stafford's odds in the MVP rankings are climbing significantly. Another four touchdown effort, 281 yards passing. Here's Jared Verse saying, hey, after watching the Dodgers win, yeah, we got something to say.
Rob Parker
Watching them be able to dominate like that, get that win, bring that well save back to la.
Kelvin Washington
It gets us hyped up because now.
Rob Parker
We know we got to be next. There you go. Yeah, it's easy to say, well, the Stanks stink. But this, this league, we saw Tampa go down to the wire and trail the Saints and then come back. And I mean, that's the NFL. It's a very close league. I think they're the best team. I think they're the most complete team. And I love Stafford. There are times in his career he could be a bit reckless. He's ironed out the reckless. I mean, Devonte Adams, George Pickens and Devonte Adams were two wide receiver pickups. They have both been unbelievable. Unbelievable pickups by the Cowboys and the Rams.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, that was. Listen, this Rams team, totally complete. I don't see a weakness other than special teams. Colin, let's be careful. They. Their kicker missed a field goal and an extra point. I did note he's got four missed field goals a season.
Rob Parker
I think they drafted him out of Stanford.
Colin Cowherd
You don't need that crap in the postseason, okay? In the playoff games where it matters, you need to trust your guy. So that would be the one weakness that I saw. By the way, the New Orleans Saints ran 40 plays and had the ball for 16 minutes.
Rob Parker
That.
Colin Cowherd
That's a bad.
Rob Parker
The most dominating performance of the year by a team.
Colin Cowherd
I don't disagree. I don't disagree. I like it. Final story, Colin. The Atlanta Falcons went to New England. This was actually a good game. Bit of a crazy fourth quarter. So let's highlight this play right here. So it was a huge third down. Michael Penix thinks he got them to jump and then he decides I'm just going to dirt it. Okay, we got the flag. No, there was no flag. And he was called for intentional grounding.
Rob Parker
Brutal.
Colin Cowherd
So. So they were faced with 4th and 4th and 20 and they decide to punt. They don't get the ball back. So afterward, Raheem Morris says New England, there were some shenanigans going on. They claim. Here's. Here's Raheem Morris.
Interviewee/Guest
They did a nice job. They simulated a snap. The ball came early, was snapped early within that snap. That was when we got to intentional grounding. Nice job by those guys. They were clapping. Simulated our snap, got us to snap the ball. And that's what a ball was snapped early in Mike when he wasn't ready for the snap.
Colin Cowherd
Now, of course, people have dug into the video and there's no clapping.
Rob Parker
Well, that's your job as a quarterback to identify that. You can't blame the Patriots. You have to identify that. That's. And again, I'm not going to crush panics. He's a young kid. How many times has he started? You're on the road.
Kelvin Washington
Yeah.
Rob Parker
So I mean, this game comes down to the kicker. Missed a pat.
Colin Cowherd
Falcons, they've blown two games because of kickers.
Rob Parker
I'll tell you, there are parts of this team. I love Drake. London's insane.
Colin Cowherd
He was so good.
Rob Parker
God, he's so good.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bijan Robinson, weirdly back to back, strange non factor games after he cooked the Bills. I don't know what to make of the Falcons. They dropped 2, 3 and 5. They're now behind the Panthers in the division.
Rob Parker
Look at. I mean, it's funny. These divisions can't. Kansas City's what, 5 and 4?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, they're in.
Rob Parker
Denver is 7 and 2 and I think Denver's hosting them this week. That's the. I mean, that's. That is a no.
Colin Cowherd
Denver. Denver has Raiders and that. Oh, so Denver has the Chiefs in two weeks. Okay, so there's a trap. Potential trap game against the Raiders Thursday night. I'll have some.
Kelvin Washington
Plenty.
Colin Cowherd
I've already bet the game. I have a lot of stuff on that, but yeah, tough One for the Falcons. Patriots, by the way, did not look amazing.
Rob Parker
No. Again, young quarterback. We said it. They have so many new starters. I. I think it's remarkable that they are playing as well as they are. I thought they'd win 10 games. They. They could win 14, 13.
Colin Cowherd
Colin, they go to Tampa this week. They are underdogs. Tampa off a buy.
Rob Parker
Denver is 7 and 2. Their next two games are at home than a buy.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. No Denver. Denver's in good shape.
Rob Parker
I don't expect them to win the division.
Colin Cowherd
They're not winning. They're not winning the afc.
Rob Parker
Do you picked him to win the AFC West? That was my pick.
Colin Cowherd
Better be careful. Some of these teams may be putting you on blast on social media with these predictions. You saw the Buffalo Bills?
Rob Parker
Yeah. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. So, you know, it's, it's. I would vote Aaron Rodgers into the hall of Fame, obviously. First ballot. He's one of the 12 best quarterbacks I've ever seen. I always thought he was better than Favreau. I thought he was more of a thinking man's quarterback. Few made fewer mistakes. So I always, I always liked Aaron a little bit more than Favre. He can drive me nuts. A little projecting here and passive aggressive stuff. I don't think that's great leadership, blah, blah, blah. But when Aaron was in his prime in Green Bay with a great organization, it was impressive.
Kelvin Washington
Obviously.
Rob Parker
I'm so blown away what he's doing in Pittsburgh. This has been a dysfunctional offense for seven years. Last year, Pittsburgh was 29th in the red zone offensively. Now they're top 10. Yeah. TJ Watt in the defense, knocked around Daniel Jones. They've done that 30 times in five years. But I mean, Aaron Rodgers and Sam Darnold are not the same player now they've left the Jets. When I watched Aaron at the Jets, I thought he was old. I had said on the air, I'm like, go to Minnesota or retire. Dude, you look old. Aaron looks nimble. It's like, I don't know if it's ayahuasca or whatever. I don't know what it is. Aaron is moving great. His body language is good. He's top 10 in touchdowns completion percentage, passer rating. You can say, oh, it was our defense. Give me a break. In the two big Steeler wins, the Colts in New England, they got 11 takeaways. That's nonsense. That's not going to happen in big games. This Steeler Team is all about Aaron. It's all. Don't, don't kid yourself. Don't talk about the defense. Your defense does this. It's still not a very good defense. The Steelers offensive line and pass protection right now is mid. They average 1.7 yards a rush. I could fall down and average that. You could too. So the O line's not very good, especially in pass protection. The run game is not very good. And despite what you saw yesterday, the defense isn't very good. This team is going to go as far as Aaron Rodgers can take them. And right now, do you know he's on track to complete 68% of his throws and have 36 touchdowns. That is better than that amazing Brett Favre year with the Vikings. It's better than that. So I, I think the credit does not go to the defense or Mike Tomlin or the run game or it goes completely to Aaron Rodgers. This was a dysfunctional tone deaf relic, a dinosaur of an offense. They're good in the red zone. I mean they're, they are high completion percentage. Move the chains. I mean, Yesterday, you know, T.J. watt doing what T.J. watt does, but none of it matters if Aaron's not completing 25 or 35 and moving the chains. Here was Aaron after a surprising to many win.
Interviewee/Guest
This was a really important win for us though, to not lose three in a row, to not go to one and three at home and to kind of get that big elephant that was starting to try and jump on the backs of the defense, which is made up of media and, you know, outside, outside conversation about them. So we're all human and I think those guys felt, you know, pretty upset, had a little red ass about what's been going on. So I'm proud of them the way they came back and responded.
Rob Parker
Also another instructive win if you're Pittsburgh. I think you have to look at the running back position. I think the Bills need to get another receiver. Don't pat yourself in the back because you beat Kansas City. I think give Aaron another running back. Old quarterbacks are always better with a run game. The Rams are running the football very well. Stafford looks amazing. So I thought both the Steelers and the Bills, very impressive wins. It is amazing. You leave the New York Jets. Sam Darnold is the highest rated passer, I think in the league. And Aaron looks fantastic. He looked old last year. He's looking good. And don't, don't kid yourself about the defense yesterday. It's not a great defense. This is not a great defense. All right, Best World Series I've ever seen and I think calling right, calling wrong.
Kelvin Washington
Top of the hour.
Rob Parker
I think I figured out the packers problems because they got problems. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Listen, just because we have better weather, all our teams win championships and people are handsome and tan year round is no reason to hate Los Angeles. 26 million people minimum watch the World Series. The final rating comes in tomorrow. My guess is it's 27 or 28 million. You know, just everybody doesn't like the rich guy. Rod Right. For the record, the Mets, Phillies and Yankees are just shy of a billion dollars of payroll this year. They want a combined one playoff series. The Mets, Phillies and Yankees. There's a lot of teams spending money for all those that get worked up about the Dodgers money, it was 36 year old, zero time all star on retirement's door. Miguel Rojas. Game seven, ninth inning. That actually saved the season. Here it is.
Sports Highlights Announcer
Playoff drilled to left field and deep and gone. No way. Miguel Rojas. Dave Roberts played his gut. The guy hadn't had a hit in a month. And in the ninth inning of game seven, he set a tying home run.
Rob Parker
Also made a key defensive play. Again, Miggy's on the doorstep of retirement. And Dave Roberts pulled the right lever. Oh, there's also defensive replacement Andy Pahes. This happened. Take a watch.
Sports Highlights Announcer
Fly ball to left field. Hernandez on the run with Pajes over his head. Runs him over, makes the catch, sends game seven to the 10th. Incredible. Andy Pahes fresh into the ball games.
Rob Parker
Center fielder makes the play of the night in left field. Just absolutely unbelievable. We're not done. Will Smith, who caught 73 innings in the World Series including all of the 18 inning game, he did this.
Sports Highlights Announcer
Smith. It's a high fly ball to deep left field. It's got a chance. It is gone. It's Will Smith in Game 7. And in the 11th inning of Game 7, the Dodgers lead for the first time.
Rob Parker
Will Smith, Miguel Rojas, Andy Pages. Yes, Yoshi's the best pitcher in baseball. But when the Yankees were dominating, they had Clemens and Cone and the great Andy Pettit and all stars. They were winning the hot stove league. For the record, Rojas is the 14th highest player on the team. They moved Will Smith up in the batting order. Dave Roberts made all the right moves. For the record, the Dodgers won Game 6. Why? Due to a bad baserunning mistake by the Jayson. And they beat the Phillies on a walk off error by Philadelphia. So yes, the Dodgers like a great football team. If you fumble, they'll score. All right? You air ball it, they'll take it to the other end of the floor and dunk on you. You can't make mistakes, but the Dodgers don't make many. Here's Dave Roberts after back to back World Series crowns.
Interviewee/Guest
Right now I'm just really elated and really proud of our team, our guys, the way we fought and we've done something that hasn't been done in decades. And you know, there were so many, as we talked earlier, so many pressure points and how that game could have flipped and we just kept fighting and you know, guys stepped up big so I could just go on and on about, you know, the big plays, the big performances and you know, this is one of the Greatest games I've ever been a part of. And this whole series and what the Blue Jays did and they gave us everything they had and just such a first class organization.
Rob Parker
Yeah, I mean, Toronto out hit the Dodgers, but the Dodgers out pitched them. And in crucial situations, the Dodgers were the better team. They were the better baserunning team. They were the better defensive team in crucial situations. That's all these playoff series come down to. Great hitting is going to be great. Great pitching will beat great hitting. And the Dodgers had the best pitcher easily. You go back and look at all those, you know, Jeter and Posada and Bernie. No, it was Mariano Rivera closing out games. And the starting pitching for the Yankees was fantastic. I mean, last year when Garrett Cole pitched against the Dodgers, Yankees looked like as good of the better team. So yes, they, they, they made a big bid on Yoshi. Several teams did. I said it last week. He paid for himself and then some. In the World Series alone. Yoshi is four. No, he is more than paid for himself. And you get what you pay for. All right. The Green Bay packers, it's a bit of a mess. Listen, they wore those leather helmets, those fake leather helmets. They took the game too literally. Their offense looked like something from the 50s. They never punted. They rushed for over 100 yards and they lost at home. 16, 13. And Bryce Young for Carolina didn't even play particularly well. So my takeaway is Green Bay, and this is a problem. They don't know what they are. They didn't even punt. They don't know what they are. Jim Harbaugh, you knew what the Chargers were second game in. Sean Payton has already made a brand for the Denver Broncos. We are great late. You may lead. We're unbelievable. We are a fourth quarter team. And I'm not saying it's easy, but it is essential. What are the Packers? They want to run. That's Matt LaFleur's ID. It's, it's, it's his DNA. But they're not great at running. They can get yards, but it's empty calories. I think I would just give the offense to Jordan Love and let him rip. But I mean, they, it's, it's weird. They beat the Vikings soundly, they beat the Steelers soundly. But they lost to Cleveland and lost at home to Carolina and tied Dallas. So they have got to form an identity. And you can blame anybody you want right now. But the best teams in this league, like Philadelphia, A.J. brown didn't play. Philadelphia's offense look great.
Kelvin Washington
Why?
Rob Parker
Because A.J. brown gets in the way of the Eagles identity. They're a physical run first offense. A.J. brown's a distraction. That's why I've said move it. Green Bay doesn't know what they are. So it's not, it's. You could say, well, they're young. Seattle's almost as young. Seattle has an identity run first, big swings downfield and a fast, aggressive defense. I'm telling you, man, it doesn't matter what business you work in. It can be football or anything else. What are you. And I just, I don't know what Green Bay is right now. Here is Matt LaFleur on the home loss to the Panthers. We've had penalties, we obviously had a fumble on the first drive. We had three possessions in the first half, a nine play drive, a nine play drive and a ten play drive and we had six points.
Colin Cowherd
So it's going to be tough if.
Rob Parker
We can't figure out and score in the red area and it's just going to be tough to win football games like that. So here is my issue. They have the fifth highest run rate in the league. That's Matt LaFleur's DNA. He wants to run the ball. Yet they're 24th in yards per carry. So they just don't, they're not a good run team. They're, they're better finesse, they're better with Jordan Love moving around, making plays downfield. Now Tucker Kraft is out for the year, officially.
Kelvin Washington
Brutal.
Rob Parker
Great kid, great player. Played at South Dakota, the Jackrabbits. Was a great college player, just a football player. I think he played, you know, fullback and linebacker in high school. He goes to South Dakota and then he goes to Green Bay. He's a marvelous player. So it is becoming more of a tight end league. I think he's a fairly capable blocker. He's out for the year. Now they got Musgrave. They have another tight end who's very solid. But I think this all the time. The teams I like and as you get closer to Thanksgiving, do you know what you are? And it's not easy. Some coaches, you know, hardballs do it real quick. John and Jim, I think, I think Sean Payton in Denver has really figured it out, is that, listen, we're going to be a great late team. We are going to be really good late. We're never out of it. We take big swings. We're very aggressive. But Green Bay, I watch them and I'm. They don't punt. They ran for 100 yards. They got it. They had you know they just not terribly effective in key spots in the game. Now I don't think Carolina is awful. I think you're thinking Carolina's bad. I thought the line was quirky. I said Friday this is going to be a close game. This is a trap game for Green Bay. Watch out. I said it Friday. I almost put it in the blazing five. I didn't should have. But that's where we are today. When you watch them play, what do you think they are?
Colin Cowherd
No, that's a good point. I think they missed the kid. Reed, Jaden Reed. Remember they lost him with the broken collarbone earlier this season. He's just an awesome talent. He can do. He's like a Swiss army knife. Line him in the backfield, slot out wide, they miss him. But the Craft injury leads me to believe you're right. I don't know what can they be a running team with Josh Jacobs. Craft is a great blocking tight end. He didn't go nuts yesterday. Jacobs it's a tough one because a week ago we said the packers, yeah, Colin, they're the best in the nfc. And now it's like you lose. They lost to the Browns and they lost to the Panthers, both by three.
Rob Parker
Like what I mean, one of the reasons the Lions loss was so surprising because the Lions identity is punishing you up front and the Vikings punish them. So it's like just because you have an identity doesn't mean you have it every Sunday. It's hard to create it, harder to maintain it. And I think Green Bay is a little lost offensively.
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Episode Theme:
A high-energy Monday rundown of the NFL's biggest stories—how the Chiefs lost to the Bills, why the Bears are incrementally improving, the Rams’ NFC dominance, and the Dodgers’ World Series triumph. Colin and co-hosts dissect top games and trends, spotlight quarterback performances, and question team identities.
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“Dave Roberts played his gut. The guy hadn’t had a hit in a month. And in the ninth inning of game seven, he set a tying home run.” ([43:39])
Dave Roberts: “We’ve done something that hasn’t been done in decades. … I could go on and on about the big plays, big performances. … This whole series … one of the greatest I’ve ever been a part of.” ([46:08])
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“To not lose three in a row … to kind of get that big elephant that was starting to try and jump on the backs of the defense, made up of media and outside conversation about them. … Proud of them.” ([36:47])
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The episode underscores how success in pro sports is as much about incremental improvement and clear identity as it is about top-end talent. Colin is bullish on the Rams and critical of the Packers' lack of direction. He finds lessons in the Dodgers’ resilience and the rejuvenated Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh, while warning not to overreact—good or bad—to any single win or loss, especially in the NFL’s parity-driven chaos.
For listeners who missed the episode:
You'll walk away with clear perspectives on the reasons for key NFL outcomes, a sense of the league’s trajectory, why team “identity” trumps individual stats, and a fresh appreciation for overlooked, clutch moments in sports—from gritty Bears wins to a Dodgers legend born in a single swing.