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Herd hierarchy say there's a lot of teams smooshed right in the middle in the NFL. What do we do with the Kansas City Chiefs? Are they a top 10 team? What do we do with Seattle? It's the Herd in Chicago. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. So okay, okay, you can say it was just the Raiders. I understand that. But it should be noted. Dallas, Quinn and Williams down. They got that linebacker back. That that second round pick is healthy. So Quinn and Williams last night season high in sacks, one and a half career high in quarterback hits. Another escape from New York success story. Two things are absolutely true. Every player that leaves the toxic New York jets gets better instantly. And Dallas is probably not as far off as everybody thinks. Dallas has a top 10 to 12 quarterback run games, good interior D line, Kenny Clark, Quinn and Williams the weapons on the perimeter. They stole George Pickens. That's a lot of playoff boxes. Now the offensive line is young, they're inconsistent on pass protection. But the Cowboys are after the packers and Seahawks, the youngest offense in the league. So they are an ascending offense and remember I've been on this, they don't need a quarterback. Seven teams in the league are desperate for it. So those two first round picks, quarterback is going to be overdrafted like it is every year and this year Dallas is going to be able to manipulate that first round. Those two picks. So Quinn and Williams now you want he was an all pro with Robert Salah. That's what you saw last night. That was the Quinn and Williams that was an all pro Expect that going forward by the way Kenny Clark interior lineman so not all, not all struggling teams are equal. Dallas is young, they're ascending. They got a top 10 to 12 quarterback. The jets don't, the Browns don't, the Raiders don't, the Saints don't. The Titans don't. Dallas has the same number of wins as the Miami Dolphins and I would take Dallas 10 out of 10 times because of Dakota. I would take Dallas 10 out of 10 times over Miami. So we can all clown on Jerry Jones and I, you know, is he the gm Whatever he is, he's certainly not the worst GM in the league. But I would say this, the offense is elite. They stole George Pickens, they don't need weapons, running game feels solid. The O line has to get better in pass pro. But they're all young, the offense is young and the two defensive issues they have they can solve in the draft because they have two first round picks. So I think Dallas going to win six or seven games and they're going to get an elite pass rusher in the draft but last night we got to be fair about this. Donovan Ezraku, their second round pick played last night. Oh yeah, he's good, he's a good player. And they got back Demarvian overshone the linebacker, they got him back. Well, he's an athlete. So you started seeing some of those young guys behind Quinn and Williams and I know it's the Raiders, I get it, I understand it but again turn the sound down. Watch their athleticism last night. Quinn and Williams a career high in quarterback hits and one and a half sacks a season high escape from New York. So we can all say we want to do but I and I said this when they got Quinn and Williams they did not give up a first round pick next year. That was very smart by Dallas because six to seven teams are desperate for a quarterback and there's a bunch of quarterbacks that are probably mid second high, second late first round picks. They're all going to be overdrafted they're all going to be overdrafted. Mendoza is going to go one or two. Everybody else probably gets overdrafted. You need a quarterback. And the following year doesn't appear to be as good a quarterback as this year. There's not seven or eight guys that can go in the first couple rounds. So last night they were finally healthy. On defense. Jerry Jones said after the win over the Raiders he could hardly contain himself. You could see the impact of actually the players, not just the. Not just your guys there in the front with Quentin and those guys. We also had other players out there that hadn't had them. So I really was pleased with the way the defense and I was restraining myself from feeling, jumping up and down here again. Not all bad teams are equal. The Raiders don't have anything right from the culture to the run game. Head coach, there's a lot of stuff. Dallas has the offense right. Ascending young O line. That run blocks pretty well. Excellent weapon. Stole George Pickens CD Lambs A1. Javante Williams looks like the Bronco Kid. I mean, that offense, I think it's number two in the NFL right now. That's fine. Okay. Look at all the bad teams. I'd feel a lot better today about Dallas with those two first round picks. Maybe go get Caleb Downs, Ohio State. Go get an edge rusher. Problem solved. Young, athletic. All right, so you get to the point of this. I always think this is funny. In the NFL season, fans will always do this. I'll say, well, I like this team. And they're like, well, I haven't beaten anybody. Well, who's great? I mean, Philadelphia has won like 22 of their last, what, 25 games? And they look ugly every week. I mean, Denver, none of you like Denver?
Sophie Cunningham
Well, they.
Colin Cowherd
What are they, nine and two at some point? Do you win games or not? So the big question with the Bears is The Bears are 7 and 3 and in first place. And everybody's saying, oh, yeah, but the schedule, whoa. I mean, it's Joe Montana and the Niners coming up next. I actually think they're going to remain in first place. And here's why. What the next five games the Bears play all have in common. Steelers, Eagles, Green Bay, Cleveland, Green Bay. What do they all have in common? Every one of those teams. Not the Bears. Every one of those teams is struggling to find their offensive identity. Chicago doesn't have that problem. Chicago's inconsistent, but Chicago runs the ball a lot and runs the ball well. And for the record, still leads the NFL in big plays. Yeah, the Bears May be inconsistent, a little start, stop, right? But they have an identity. They are going to run the ball a lot and they're going to run it well. So that's an identity. The Bears, you know, it's a little like a Quentin Tarantino movie. Strong plot, excellent character development. Seems a little out of order. We're going to have to wait to the end of the movie. So it all sort of wraps in together and you'll be like, that was really good. But there are times, the operational part, the penalties, the three and out. Caleb misses an easy one. You're like, hey, again, it's a little out of order. They have bad quarters, weird halves, they're good late. So, and I say this all the time, you do not have to be perfect to get to a Super Bowl. You just have to have an identity. The Philadelphia Eagles got to a Super bowl last year. They were the fourth worst passing team in a passing league. But the Eagles knew what they were. That's why this year, Philadelphia is really struggling because they're not a power run team. Saquon's not as dominant as last year, so Philly doesn't quite know what they are. Plus they have wide receiver drama. Last year they had a little wide receiver drama, but it was Saquon turn, handoff and watch him run for somewhere between 7 and 27 yards. So that's the thing about the Bears. You start looking at all these games they play. Packers don't know what they are. They're a passing team. The coach doesn't know it. Philadelphia, no, Lane Johnson doesn't quite know what they are. Pittsburgh now using a backup quarterback, Shador Sanders, now starting for Cleveland. I think Chicago's fine again. Every game, every scene may not feel like it kind of fits, but when the movie's over and when the game's over, you look up and you're like, yeah, that works. Yeah, that's what they do. Still people out there. Matt Hasselbeck, not quite sure about the quarterback, though.
J. Mac
Caleb is a young player learning on the fly. And as he's learning they're winning, he's.
Colin Cowherd
Morphing into Ben Johnson's kind of quarterback.
J. Mac
Is he there? No, I don't think he is.
Colin Cowherd
He's really not.
J. Mac
But they seem to find ways to win. That's what happens with DNA culture setter type coaches. You set a standard and an expectation for the details and the discipline that are going to happen in your organization every single day. Do I think this is their year without after I say all that?
Colin Cowherd
No, they haven't really beat anybody.
J. Mac
But the schedule is getting tougher here.
Colin Cowherd
We'll find out who they really are. Well, we know who Kayla Williams is. Today is his 24th birthday. Happy birthday to Caleb. Happy birthday to first place. Happy birthday to facing five straight games with teams with no offensive identity. I like Chicago. Not even going to say I'm a good luck charm. I didn't have anything to do with it. But they are in first and it's coming together. J. Mac, you know, it's nice to be in a city. It's nice to be in a city with winners. That's all I'm going to say. Yeah.
J. Mac
Yeah, for sure.
Colin Cowherd
Definitely.
J. Mac
You know, tomorrow's DeAndre Swift's birthday. Let's make sure we give him a shout out. I'm just kidding. Boy, you love you some Bears, huh? Okay, what's a point differential? I haven't seen the standings this morning.
Colin Cowherd
I don't get caught up into those numbers. Yeah, that kind of data is irrelevant. Here's the number I see the seven and the first place. Those are the two numbers I see. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me. Well, you know what? It's called Over Promise. You should be good at it cause you've been overpromising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise. And also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over promising. And remember, you could see on YouTube, but definitely join us. Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Breaking news. Not everything's terrible. We repeat, not everything is terrible. The ripple effect is proof that the Internet hasn't ruined humanity entirely. Hosted by Jenna Kim Jones, funny and uplifting podcast spotlights the quiet, powerful ways people still choose good. Each episode features real stories of kindness, of barbers changing more than just their client's haircut, of the secret life, of leftover hotel soap, of vending machines that dispense just the help somebody needs. Like magic. If you're tired of outrage, if your thumbs are sore from doom scrolling, or if you just need a reason to smile again, this podcast is your new favorite scroll break. It's heartfelt, hopeful, a gentle reminder. Goodness is still out there. Surprisingly contagious too. So put down your phone, pick up your faith in humanity and join Jenna for the Ripple Effect. It's a reminder that you can start a ripple that changes everything. Listen to the ripple effect on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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That's P L-U-V-I-C-T O.com Thursday Night Football is on, and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Buffalo Bills and Houston Texans collide in an AFC showdown. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Bills in the Texans Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details. So there is a herd hierarchy top of the Hour. There's a headline today from a story. Bo Nix is a conundrum. Has his potential been capped? And I've heard this a lot and Bo Nicks can drive me crazy, but I was thinking about this this morning. We put these in alphabetical order. I, I don't want to parse it out. Who's the best? Who's the worst? Here's the 15 best quarterbacks. I've been watching the NFL since 1972. That was the Miami Washington Super Bowl. I remember watching that in a black and white TV in my bedroom in Little Grayland, Washington. Here's the 15 best quarterbacks I've ever seen play the position. I'll read it for our radio audience. Troy Aikman, Josh Allen, Terry Bradshaw, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, John Elway, Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben and Steve Young. Apologies to Jim Kelly. He was 16th. Those are the best I've ever seen. The best I've ever seen. That is a high bar. You know what you notice with those quarterbacks? There's no bad coaches over 15. Well, what about Sean McDermott? He's a good coach. He got Tyrod Taylor to the playoffs. He had turned Buffalo around pre Josh Allen. He's a good coach. Some of you will remember the golfer Tom Kite. He's a Hall of Famer. He has one major. He finished second, third and fourth a lot. He's a Hall of Fame golfer. Sean McDermott's a good coach. Yes. Bo Nix absolutely benefits greatly from Sean Payton. He is 19 and 9 as a quarterback and I bet you he'd be 9 and 19 if he had like a Matt Eberfloose or a Dennis Allen. He, you could reverse his record. But in the last seven games with a legitimate coach, he has five game winning drives. And don't you think there's something to be said? Isn't this a wacky coincidence? Here's the three young quarterbacks, all on winning streaks. Drake May, Caleb Williams and Vonix. Let's, let's see who their coaches are. Oh, oh. Mike Vrabel, Ben Johnson and Sean Payton all appear. Two are legitimately big time, all time coaches. I mean, they really are great coaches. And it looks like Ben Johnson's pretty damn good. What a wacky coincidence. There are no quarterbacks that are elite that had a string of bad coaches. Dan Fouts had Air Coryell. Look him up. Dan Marino didn't win Super Bowls. He had Don Shula winning. His coach ever. Now I didn't see Bart Starr play, so I didn't include him in that. But he had Vince Lombardi, Aikman had Jimmy Johnson. And I'm not saying the quarterback's not more valuable than the coach. There's no bad coaches in there. In fact, it's many. I mean, Tony Dungy was a defensive guy. Tony Dungy's a really good coach. One in Tampa, one in Indy. But the number that you have to respect, Bo Nixon, and he has bad halves, he got bad games. About three games ago, Sean Payton was watching him on the sideline and you could read the body language. Sean didn't know what to do. Here's where you got to respect him. Since he entered the league, this number will shock you. Bo Nix has more pass attempts than any quarterback in the league. What is the ultimate sign of respect? What a parent does to a child. Trust them with responsibility. That's what the Colts did with Andrew Luck. Bruce Arians gave him the whole damn playbook as a rookie. Figure it out. It's what Coughlin did with Eli Manning. You're a smart kid. You're a Manning. Here's the playbook. Make some mistakes. Eli did. Andrew Luck made a lot of them. And Bo Nix does. The ultimate sign of respect is that Sean Payton's like, bro, no hand holding. Big Ben's an all timer. Go look at the first couple of years with Big Ben. They were holding his hand, they were babysitting him. You know, they weren't throwing the ball much. Bo Nix leads the whole freaking league in pass attempts, so he can drive me crazy. He has bad halves, but the whole thing, well, if not for Sean Payton, well, if not for Jimmy Johnson, I mean, Troy Aikman's first year with Jimmy was 1 in 15. This is hard. Football practice is hard. Forget the games, the practice, the off seasons are hard. Here's Bo Nix on the criticism outside of the building.
J. Mac
People are always entitled to their opinion.
Colin Cowherd
They're always gonna say what they think.
J. Mac
And, you know, that's also what makes.
Colin Cowherd
You know, our country great. But, you know, at the end of the day, you just gotta block it out.
J. Mac
You just, you know, can't involve yourself with what's outside the building.
Colin Cowherd
And because if, if you do, man.
J. Mac
It'Ll just bog you down and it'll get you distracted and you start worrying about things that you shouldn't be worried about. But everybody's always going to say something for some reason.
Colin Cowherd
We're always going to be, you know.
J. Mac
Talked down upon, and that's okay.
Colin Cowherd
He's near the top of the league in a lot of things. At number one in total pass attempts. That speaks well of what Sean Payton thinks of him. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.
J. Mac
This is the Herd line news. All right, Colin. From one middling quarterback to a great one. That's Jalen Hurts. There's some wacky stuff is coming out. Philly. I don't know what to make of this, but there's an insider who's claiming that folks within the Eagles organization have grown frustrated with the quarterback situation. The insider added that some people in the org would like to move off Jalen Hurts, but the money is just makes it impossible. It's almost a Carson Wentz 2.0 situation. I mean, this is. This is all crazy. However, Eagles tackle Jordan Mylata was asked about this, and here's his response.
Colin Cowherd
I don't see it. You know, I know what. How much work Jalen puts into this. And so, you know, I just have to. I'm not gonna. Yeah, I don't know how to address that. It's kind of crazy. Kind of crazy that somebody in the organization would do that. I don't know. He said he's a. He's been there a long time. Mount Rushmore, the media. So probably knows a lot of people, but then again, I'm not gonna worry about that. Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. It didn't come out of the middle of nowhere. A lot of good reporters and journalists in Philadelphia.
J. Mac
Yeah, I mean, I just started to do some digging on this guy. We don't need to mention him by name. He's a longtime battle ax in Philadelphia. Colin, let's just be real. Jalen hurts. His last 25 starts, the team's record is 22 and three. He was the MVP of the Super Bowl. He was nearly the MVP of another super bowl. And some people want to run him out of town.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know. You say battle ax, I say seasoned journalist. He's not making it up. Somebody inside.
J. Mac
Nobody said he's making anything up. I mean, it's just like he claims to have sources. I don't know. He's. Well, this isn't that. Let's see what. Let's wait for Schefter, Rapaport and the guys who are plugged in. Let's see what they say. I just find it very hard to believe that people are seeing this product and saying, we've got to move off. Jalen Hurts. He's the problem.
Colin Cowherd
I would have A hard time. People watching this offensive product and saying, yeah, we're better when we throw less. Yeah, that's what the team said last year. Let's throw less. Nobody says that with Josh Allen. I mean, Mahomes doesn't. Mahomes like, top three in the league in passing attempts. He was at one point. He has no offensive line. He's getting crushed.
J. Mac
I mean, you're comparing him to two MVPs. Interesting. Josh Allen would love to. He would kill. He would maim to get to a Super Bowl. Okay. Like, he would do whatever it takes. Like they ran less or they ran more because saquon Barkley had 2,000 yards last year. I mean, you know, this is just staggering. Like the ineptitude in Philadelphia. To think Jalen hurts is the problem. Colin, how many offensive coordinators has he had in Philly? Well, he needs different one every year.
Colin Cowherd
What are we doing?
J. Mac
I. I'm just flabbergasted. All right, let's move on to a story maybe you'll like a little more, and that's Aaron Rodgers. He is also a little perturbed, shall we say, that reports leaked out quickly that he's got a wrist injury. We still don't know what's going on. That's weird. MRI should have been. We should have the results by now. Apparently, Rogers will not need surgery, and he is pushing to play against the Bears. That's not good for my Bears -3 bet. Chances of him playing right now are 50 50. But, you know, it's Tuesday morning. Long way to go. Mason Rudolph would be the starter here. How's this one from Adam Schefter? The Steelers tighten the circle because Rogers did not like the leak.
Colin Cowherd
Well, you could. You could see the strain on his face when he got hit. I mean, Aaron's constantly on camera, so I don't think it was. I mean, it's hard to keep in game out of game. It's hard to keep things under wraps. You got 20 reporters minimum in the locker room, so I don't. I don't think there's a leak on the team. It's. There's. Sometimes it's hard to keep every bit of information in the White House under wraps. I mean, it's just a reality of an NFL locker room after a game. You're walking off the field, there's reporters everywhere. People are asking. He's grimacing, and the trainer comes over to him. I don't know. I don't feel. I don't feel like the Steelers have a leak. I just Think Aaron's a high profile guy that's on camera and after games. That's your number one job as a reporter in Pittsburgh to find out how healthy Aaron is after he wins during the game. That's your job. Yeah.
J. Mac
We'll find out how much he matters when the line, when we find out who's starting and what the line does.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Now it's minus three Bears at home, minus three against Pittsburgh.
J. Mac
I'm assuming that's no Rodgers, right? You got a broken left wrist. How you, how are you taking snaps? Gripping the ball like. I don't think you can play with a broken. Do you? I mean, I know you played a lot of football back in the day.
Colin Cowherd
Al Bundy, I think, I think he, I think he has a broken bone in his wrist. I don't think he has a broken wrist.
J. Mac
Well, broken bone in the wrist, same deal, you know, Broken bone in the wrist. Can you play football?
Colin Cowherd
Yes. Yes, you can play football.
J. Mac
I mean he's, he's old like, you might as well give it a shot, right? It's not like he's playing for the future. Final story Con. Let's go to a. Let's go back to a good quarterback and that's Brock Purdy. My guy returned from a six game absence. 200 yards, throwing three tutties. 49ers offense was super crisp. After the game, Purdy spoke to Albert Breer and told him the offense getting healthy. Colin, the Niners are in the right spot to make a playoff run. Here it is. No, we don't have the sound.
Colin Cowherd
Sorry.
J. Mac
Bottom line is very excited to have Brock Purdy back. He thinks they can make a playoff run. How confident are you?
Colin Cowherd
Well, I think the Rams are better and I think Seattle's better, but I think, I think it's a really good division. So I think it's close. You know, they had a pretty easy schedule to start the season, but unfortunately they fell apart. So I think they'll make a run. I think their coaching staff's been unbelievable. I think they're a top 10 team. I have them in the hurt hierarchy. I think their staff's been unbelievable and I think the Chiefs, we'll see. It's around there. They're close. J Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd line news. A very interesting story. Very rarely does a college football coach crush at a school and the school says, make up your mind what you're doing. That's what Ole Miss is doing with Lane Kiffin. I think Lane Kiffin should go to the pros. I think he's tapped out at Ole Miss. I don't think he's going to win a natty there, but I think he's going to win a bunch of games if he stays there. And so LSU flies a plane in, flies his family down to Baton Rouge to check it out. So Lane Kiffin, they've given him a deadline at Ole Miss. The Mississippi State game, the minute it ends, tell us what you're doing. So I've always had a theory in life, don't try to get happier than happy. And I think Lane's happy. When did Lane Kiffin implode in life? Al Davis, NFL dysfunction. The Raiders were dysfunctional. And massive pressure at usc. When did he crush Florida Atlantic? No pressure. Ole Miss, not that much pressure. And the offensive coordinator under Nick Saban, where, you know, Nick's taking the arrows. So Lane, it's a little like Icarus. Be careful how close you fly to the sun. Don't try to get happier than happy. I think the LSU job is crazy town. The governor's talking about it. They're legally going to try to keep money from Brian Kelly. Bad look. LSU, by the way, Brian Kelly won 10 games year one, 10 games year two, and entered year three. Hottest seat in college football. That's all you need to know. And now the governor of the state's involved in the Brian Kelly mess. So I, I to me, stay at Ole Miss or go to the NFL, but because I think Lane's personality feels like if he gets into one of these massively pressurized, high expectation situations, he can be a little snarky, he can be on social media a little too much. And I had a source I called yesterday on Ole Miss football. Apparently they've got a lot of nil money. They've got a. They've got nil money. It's not a money issue at Ole Miss. So. And the other thing is at Ole Miss, the entire fan base, the boosters in the university, they trust the process and they trust Lane. LSU doesn't trust any coach since Saban. They don't trust any of them. They didn't trust Les Miles. They didn't like Les Miles, Ed Orgeron, Brian Kelly, It's a very cynical football operation where. And it's kind of delusional. I mean, Georgia's a better job, Bama's a better job. I would say Texas is a better job. And it's, LSU's, you know, got a lot of players, but it's up There with, like Oklahoma, it's a, It's a really, really good job. But sometimes the donors and the boosters and the administration and now the governor gets a little uncomfortable. I mean, this, this is. The governor of the state of Louisiana actually went after the administration of LSU. Right now we got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again. And you know what I believe? I believe that we're going to find a great coach and maybe we'll let President Trump pick it. He loves winners. You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach, but I can promise you we're going to pick a coach and we're going to make sure that that coach is successful and we're going to make sure that he's compensated properly, and we're going to put metrics on it. Because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers on the foot, you know, to foot the bill. No, Brian Kelly won 10 games in 10 games and he was on the hot seat. He didn't fail. You had expectations in the SEC that has added Oklahoma and Texas. That's unrealistic. I mean, look at the coaching in the sec. Sark and Brett Venables and Kirby Smart and Lane Kiffin and Kaylin DeBoer. And I got news for you. Nobody's winning 12 games in that conference much anymore. And now Vandy's good. So it's not that Brian Kelly failed. Brian Kelly was a weird fit. Brian Kelly didn't grind in recruiting. He wasn't a failure. 10 wins. 10 wins. Enter a third year, you're on the hot seat. That's delusion. That's not bad coaching. So I, if, if I was Lane Kiffin, I would either stay at ole Ms. Or GoPro. That and reportedly Ole Miss. The money's not the issue. So we have herd hierarchy at the top of the hour. Plus, Nick Wright. I, I've never had Nick Wright on when the Kansas City Chiefs weren't good. So this will be interesting today because right now they're five and five. 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So you know once the NFL weekend is done, everybody's got their narratives and their big storylines and one of them is you Know Sam Darnold. There he goes again. So when Sam Darnold came out and I took a lot of crap for this, I said he's about 80% of Andrew Luck. That's his comp is that Andrew Luck's more naturally talented, has a better quicker release. But that's Andrew Luck that, that both played in the Pac12, both playmakers, both can be reckless. Do you all remember how many picks that Andrew Luck threw in six years, five double digit years? Andrew Luck averaged an interception per game in his career. Sam Darnold has averaged one pick a game in his career. And Andrew Luck never played for the Jets. He got Bruce Arians in a weak division. Sam Darnold got Belichick. All right, so if you look at their numbers for our radio audience, Andrew Luck and Sam Darnold, Darnold's more accurate TD interception ratio, very close passer rating, slight edge. Luck both had nine games in their career with three or more interceptions and both had at least five seasons with 10 plus interceptions. And again, Andrew Luck got Bruce Arans. That's a pretty good first gig, right? Sam didn't. In fact, if you take the jets out and just count Carolina, Minnesota and Seattle, Sam looks like an A quarterback. So for the record, what was the worst game Andrew Luck ever had? Four interceptions against Belichick in the playoffs. What are the two worst games Sam Darnold's ever had? Both against the Rams? 1 and 1 last year in Minnesota versus the Rams in the playoffs and this weekend. So they've got his number and they've also got a great young defense. But just never forget this Andrew Luck, nine career games with three or more picks. That's Darnold. So when I see, well, Sam's got a ceiling. Did Andrew Luck have a ceiling? I thought Andrew Luck was going to win Super Bowls. Now I do think Andrew is more talented than Sam, but I think it's his comp. I told executives, I talked before the draft, I loved him. Not everybody loved him. They said he's too reckless. And I said, well, isn't Andrew Luck reckless? Andrew Luck's just a bit more talented. But if you look at the numbers. And again, Andrew Luck didn't have to go to the Jets. You watched Quinn and Williams last night. He's back to being a great player. He's back to being dominant. Here's the Seahawks coach Mike McDonald on Darnold's mistakes. I think the majority of them came late in downs where we just need to get to the next play. And Sam's Played in time and in rhythm a lot this year and he's made a lot of plays for us doing that. And he's also made a lot of plays off schedule. So again, you don't want to take the playmaker out of, out of him.
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But you also understand, you know, when we, when we need, when we need to be able to get the next play versus, you know, putting the ball in jeopardy down the field. Yeah, the Rams, Bill Belichick and the Rams have given Sam Darnold a lot of trouble. Outside of that, he's pretty good. And Colin. But you love Darnold. Well, I also loved Andrew Luck because I like quarterbacks who take risks like this. This past weekend, Josh Allen has six touchdowns, couple of picks. I can live with that. I'm not somebody, I'm not a passer rating guy. Aaron Rodgers, great passer rating. So what give. I, I want wins and playoff wins. I, I don't care about the passer rating thing. I. Completion percentage matters. But right now, if you look at Bo Nix and Caleb Williams and their completion percentage, they're winning games, they're good in the fourth. I'm not going to keep track of the second quarter much. You know, Seattle dominated the second and third quarters, Rams dominated the first, didn't make any mistakes in the last. That's why they win the game. So the other story is, let's be totally frank about the Chiefs. And this is a weird thing to say, but part of Kansas City's problem is Patrick Mahomes. In the last two seasons, he has not been in Josh Allen's galaxy. Josh has been more accurate. Josh gets to the end zone more. Josh uses his legs to a greater degree, and he's just a better runner right now. Mahomes is not Josh Allen last two years. And Patrick's become kind of a bad road quarterback this year. This year he's 4 and 1 at home on the road, he barely completes 60% of his throws. His passer rating in the low 80s, 81. So you could say, well, he doesn't have the weapons that he needs. Josh Allen does, actually. He's got better weapons than the 2022 season in which he was MVP. Go look up their receiving core that year. So I do think part of the Chief's underachievement this year is on Mahomes. He's been less consistent, less accurate. Some of it's the right tackle position, But Bo Nix is 5.0this year when trailing in the fourth. Mahomes is 0 and 5 this year, trailing in the fourth. That can't be all. Just a zany coincidence. Bo Nix has been the better late game quarterback. So I, I in my opinion, Kansas City needs a reboot. They have to rip the band aid off with Travis Kelsey. You can't have your star weapon be good five times a year. It's time to rip the band aid off. Final year, he'll be good if they get to the playoffs. And then one more year, a guaranteed salary with Chris Jones. To me, it's time to rip that band aid off after next season. So I think Kansas City has to reinvent itself. And I went and looked this morning some of the and I've said this for years, when Nick Saban was crushing in the sec, the good schools like Tennessee, Georgia and LSU did not have a good coach. You go look at when Mahomes and Andy Reid, but Mahomes was crushing in this division. Denver had Nat Hackett and Vic Fangio as a head coach. The Chargers had Brandon Staley and Anthony Lynn. And the Raiders had Josh McDaniels and Antonio Pierce. Yeah, that whole Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton thing, that feels different. It lands different. So one of the themes on this show has been if you go look at LeBron James dominating in the east, yes, LeBron was great. The east was terrible. Philadelphia underachieved. The Knicks weren't any good. I mean, Boston was good briefly. Then, you know, disbanded the roster. LeBron dominate. LeBron doesn't dominate in the west because the west has better coaches, better rosters, better size, better guards, better GMs, better stars. Now LeBron's out of his prime. But even in his prime, I don't think he would have dominated the west like he dominates the East. Nick Saban dominant. So usually to create a dynasty, everybody else has to underachieve a little bit or there has to be dysfunction. Go look at Brady. When they moved Peyton Manning and the Colts out of his division early Bills were dysfunctional. Miami jets were mostly dysfunctional. But Rex Ryan actually gave Bill trouble for a couple years with kind of BC level quarterback play. So I think it's been an up and down season. I don't think Mahomes has been great the last two years. His accuracy dips home in a way is a different quarterback. And here's Mahomes on it. I think we're really talented. We got a lot of great players. It's just about being more consistent. And I think it starts with me. I mean, there's times where I'm firing and I'm throwing the ball and we're moving the ball down the field at ease. But at the same time there's times where we go into spurts where I miss like throw like I did or a protection call or whatever that is. And so it's about being more consistent that that's what this league is and we haven't been consistent enough to win football games. But it starts at with me. We have the NFL schedule coming up this week. I'm actually surprised the Chiefs are a three point favorite against the Colts. The Colts off a buy are healthy. Kansas City's coming off a very physical, intense rivalry game. The Colts getting a field goal at Kansas City. I like Indianapolis I and I again off a buy. Kansas City struggled to move the ball. Now the Colts defense is not Denver's. I like the over in this game. I think there's going to be some points but I, I, some of this is just Mahomes hasn't been great. You know I'm not, I'm not saying he's distracted. I'm not. But you know Lamar Jackson doesn't quite have the juice that he had like a year ago. J. Mac talked about that yesterday. Lamar doesn't quite feel as elusive and Mahomes is really good but he has, he's got some real up and downs. You don't quite feel the lightning and the, the juice he had like three years ago. I don't personally it doesn't mean he's not great and won't win another super bowl or three. I look at the schedule this weekend. I always look for a line that surprises me. I think Indian Kansas City is a lot of scoring. There's a lot of ugly. It's a weird weekend. You could end up having really good like Tampa. Rams could end up being a great game. Philadelphia at Dallas. I think Dallas is going to keep it close now. They're healthy defensively and no Lane Johnson. It is not a good looking schedule from when you pull back but we'll end up having five or six like Seattle at Tennessee. One of those games. Giants at Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay. One of them is going to be close in the early window.
J. Mac
I would just be careful with Tampa the last two weeks. Their defense is just hemorrhaging. Big plays galore. I mean Patriots had multiple touchdowns of over 30 yards. Bills last week and the Rams. What are they calling big play offense with McVeigh. Interesting. You mentioned Seattle going to Tennessee. Seattle's a 13 point favorite.
Colin Cowherd
That's a college line. College line.
J. Mac
Would you, would you lay it No.
Colin Cowherd
I. I already made my picks this morning. I sent him into the guys.
J. Mac
Wait, you're on Tennessee.
Colin Cowherd
I didn't. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not. I don't like those. No, I don't. I think Green Bay at home bounces back. I think there's enough film on JJ McCarthy to know what he can't do. And what he can. And what he can is not much. So I think Green Bay bounces back and I like Green Bay as a six and a half point favorite but there's. To me, there's. I don't want to touch the Baltimore jets line, the Seahawk Tennessee line. The numbers are wacky.
J. Mac
I will just point out next week is Thanksgiving week. There are three games on Thanksgiving. One of them is Lions, packers, which could be for the division. I know your Bears are there temporarily. So I like the Lions against the Giants. Big number. But you got to be careful. It's a look ahead spot for the Lions. You know, next week's game is massive. And also the Chiefs play the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Both the Chiefs and Cowboys have huge games this week. But you know, the Thanksgiving game gets the biggest audience member. People are planning their families. What are they going to do? They're flying in and out. There's a lot of logistics. This week is a dangerous week. Colin, I will say be a little bit cautious just because the holidays approaching.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean one of the, one of the better lines is San Francisco only has to give up seven and now against Carolina and San Francisco offensively finally got the band back together. Yeah, they got their guy. So I think, I think the Niners on Monday nights. One of the better plays. I thought the Cowboys you like that last night.
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Episode: Cowboys Are Better Than People Think, Believe in Caleb Williams and the Bears, Defending Sam Darnold
Date: November 18, 2025
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts & The Volume)
In this hour of The Herd, Colin Cowherd unpacks why the Dallas Cowboys are in a stronger position than critics claim, defends optimistic takes on Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears, and draws fascinating parallels between Sam Darnold and Andrew Luck. Additional segments cover Jalen Hurts’ status in Philadelphia, Aaron Rodgers' injury news, Brock Purdy's return, and the evolving landscape of elite NFL quarterbacks. The tone is energetic, opinionated, and full of signature Cowherd wit, offering in-depth football analysis while blending in engaging sports culture discussion.
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On Dallas’ potential:
“Dallas has a top 10 to 12 quarterback... they are an ascending offense and remember I've been on this, they don't need a quarterback.” – Colin Cowherd [03:46]
On the Bears’ identity:
“They are going to run the ball a lot and they're going to run it well. So that's an identity. The Bears, you know, it's a little like a Quentin Tarantino movie. Strong plot, excellent character development. Seems a little out of order.” – Colin Cowherd [10:45]
On Bo Nix and coaching:
“There are no quarterbacks that are elite that had a string of bad coaches.” – Colin Cowherd [18:54]
“Bo Nix leads the whole freaking league in pass attempts, so he can drive me crazy… but that's trust.” – Colin Cowherd [25:13]
On Jalen Hurts criticism:
“To think Jalen Hurts is the problem... I'm just flabbergasted.” – J. Mac [28:37]
On Sam Darnold’s comp:
“So when Sam Darnold came out... I said he's about 80% of Andrew Luck. That's his comp... Andrew Luck never played for the Jets.” – Colin Cowherd [42:14]
On Mahomes & Chiefs:
“Some of the Chief's underachievement this year is on Mahomes. He's been less consistent, less accurate...” – Colin Cowherd [45:27]
This episode features Colin Cowherd at his analytical, contrarian best: challenging groupthink on Dallas, standing firm on the promise of Caleb Williams and the Bears, and offering stats-laden defenses of embattled quarterbacks like Sam Darnold. Listeners are treated to a fast-paced, deep-dive journey through the week’s NFL narratives—always with Cowherd’s blend of data, storytelling, and opinion.
Whether you root for the Cowboys, Bears, Eagles, or crave straightforward quarterback talk, Colin’s nuanced breakdowns and sharp takes provide clarity and context for NFL fans looking to see past the headlines.