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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 1 - Crazy free agency period, the Raiders are making smart moves, the Dolphins seem to be doing what's right
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Jonas Knox
thanks for listening to the herd podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday on fox sports radio and noon to three eastern nine am to noon pacific find your local station for the herd at foxsportsradio dot com or stream us live every day on the iheartradio app by searching fox sports radio or fsr now let's get this party started
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Levar Arrington
you're listening to fox sports radio
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Co-host/Analyst
and
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Levar Arrington
away we go on a monday it is the herd on fox sports radio no calling it is levar arrington and jonas knox in for the crew here we're going to take you all the way up until three o' clock eastern time noon pacific you can listen to this show as always on the iheartradio app you can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country live during that three hour duration if you're listening on the podcast we appreciate you doing so you can hear lavar and i weekday morning six am eastern time three o' clock pacific on a show called two pros and a cup of joe alongside brady quinn but it is sticks and i a little bit of black and dracula on this monday morning for some free agency frenzy and legal tampering yeah you look great i'll still
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Co-host/Analyst
never understand well i'm overweight but thank
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Levar Arrington
you no you look like relieved i
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Co-host/Analyst
feel relieved you might have lost some weight everybody out there listening you might not have known you were rooting for me but thank you for pulling for me and rooting for me i had a nice cup of coffee on my twenty first anniversary with with big trish what up trish and night it was a great coffee is very very very nice gourmet coffee gave it some time to stay at home you know had enough time to drink it and do what you know coffee does to you for you in the morning but nothing really happened you know i just had it enjoyed had a nice hug hey see you when i get back got into the car got to the gas station got the gas got up out of the gas station was heading up onto the the ramp to get onto the the traffic ridd to get me here and let's just say while there was a ton of gridlock and traffic on the highway that gridlock and that traffic opened up in my my belly oh yeah and and i had to go forty five fifty minutes of mind control to make it here this morning and and actually be able to deliver the kids to the pool void of or prematurely dropping them off you know you ever see somebody like jump off of a roof or something like being silly trying to get to the pool and they don't make it to the pool that's what i was trying to avoid this morning yeah there's been some
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Levar Arrington
that have tried it off this parking structure before a lot going on i
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Co-host/Analyst
could have been on that list today it was very close but i didn't make it everyone so we're gonna have a great show so here we go
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Levar Arrington
all right well i guess that is the perfect transition it is great transition
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Co-host/Analyst
i mean you know from one toilet to it's it is perfect
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Levar Arrington
to a tug of iloa and the miami dolphins are no more the miami dolphins have officially parted ways by releasing tua it is a ninety nine million dollars dead cap hit which is a record nfl record and apparently they're going to split it over the next two years because they're going to make him a post june first designation but he's going to make fifty four million dollars from the dolphins and that'll be that for the tug of iloa experience with the miami dolphins who i know i know a lot of people are are are taking the shots or the victory laps now because they look at it and they go oh well you know clearly he was the third best quarterback in that draft class when you consider he was next to joe burrow and he was next to justin herbert and all that and miami made a mistake i get all that look they they tried they wanted joe burrow they didn't get him and then they chose to over justin herbert clearly not the right choice not the right decision but i do think it also bears pointing out the concussions really changed everything completely changed everything for the trajectory of tua's career and so because of that and other things now tua finds himself away from miami gone from the dolphins and making fifty four million dollars this next year victory laps
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Co-host/Analyst
i mean if people want to take victory laps that's not a that wasn't a hard race to to run and win i mean i think a lot of people felt as though because of the cap situation that the miami dolphins were almost forced to try to figure out what to do with tua for another season at least bless you and and at the end of the the the the road in this scenario i think you you have to take a good look at it and say man like this is a record breaking record setting cap hit dig cap hit loss in the league and guess who set the record not too long ago you got it do you got it who's that you know who said it russell wilson oh well set that record so interestingly enough coincidentally enough russell wilson has not been the same quarterback is there any comparisons here let's see you got an undersized quarterback didn't have a legitimate running attack to to help him in the passing game passing game kind of took a dip and suffered sounds a little comparable in comparison jonas and i would say my biggest question here is if i'm to a tongue of aloa and i get to make fifty four million dollars guaranteed i think and that's before a structuring right i think it might be more it could be more i'm not certain i wish we had cue to be able to discuss the you know the details i don't of the contracts but but with that being said got him i'm just curious as to what do you do isn't that the biggest question if you're too what do you do if you make this amount of money and you got it as a parting gift take care of your head take care of your family i'm not one to tell you what to do but if i'm giving you advice on what i think would be the best thing for you to to do your game did take a a change for the dramatics of not being as good once you were making sure you were limiting the amount of times
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Levar Arrington
you were hit the reports are that the falcons are going to pursue tua and the reason why it would make sense for atlanta is because you've got michael pennix junior you got another lefty and two that you could bring in kevin stefanski is now the head coach there he's he's done things with quarterbacks before and operated and done a really good job with quarterbacks and maybe people thought he couldn't get a lot out of you know case in point joe flacco when he did it and brought him in and he won comeback player of the year which still by the way one of the most amazing things and feats i've ever seen in my life joe flacco won comeback player of the year for a partial season and he beat out a guy who almost died on the field that's one of the one of the great achievements in the history of the nfl so kevin stefanski there's some thought that he would bring into it and the reason also financially why it makes sense similar to kyler is that because of the money that they're making from their former team they can sign a a low rate deal for a little over a million dollars because they're still going to get their full fifty plus million from their from from his previous team so if you're atlanta and you want to create some competition if you're not sold on michael pennix junior and you want to bring in another lefty to the fold to a to atlanta would make some sense and you know you mentioned you know if you're to take care of your head take care of your health look we spent a long time talking about you know the samoans the tongans the hawaiians they don't operate that way brother it's not that's not the way
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Co-host/Analyst
they operate it's a warrior mentality warriors
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Levar Arrington
creed he's going to play and i think that that you know in part led to look he's not a big guy so yeah he should you know slide early do this but that's not that's just not the way he that's not the way he operates but i
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Co-host/Analyst
think he did avoid contact this past season and i think it did impact the way that his results were you know within the games he did not take hits and you didn't want to see him take any hits and the seasons passed where you saw those hits take place and he was on the ground and his fingers was doing the crip signs and throwing up you know gang signs out there on the field like that that that ain't it that's not it and sure i i i i would assume you're right in the fact that he will look at this and want to continue to play but if i'm a team in the nfl if i'm the atlanta falcons the first thing i'm looking at is his head injuries report if i'm any team in the nfl i'm looking at the head injury reports and i just i just don't feel compelled to take that chance i i think i could take that chance with a lot of other quarterbacks and while there may be the the opportunity or the the potential of what you could get out of tua coming to your team or even a safety valve considering to be maybe a safety net for someone like a michael pennix who's also injury prone i i think that i mentioned russell wilson earlier and i mentioned him not because of the injury i just mentioned that because of
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Levar Arrington
the fall off
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why take a chance on a player that you already saw the fall off taking place in miami i know you say coaches feel like they can save these guys and my system can develop them and we have seen guys that didn't have great starts to their careers actually come back to life in a different setting if that happens it's great but i think the one determining factor here with tua that make gives me tremendous pause is his head injuries like this isn't about if you can clean up and fix him playing the game get better results from him as a quarterback he's been a good quarterback he's been a good quarterback so it's not like he hasn't had success as a quarterback that's what led to him having this large contract to begin with the biggest concern and the biggest issue and the reason why sometimes you got to save somebody from themselves to it probably isn't going to go into retirement after this but he probably should and if i'm a team and i'm looking at this if i'm looking at a guy that because of head injuries probably should make the decision to walk away he's got a great payday to go you know live the rest of his life and be comfortable with him and his family you could do all the tongue and tease all you want where wherever you want playing some two et some some beach beach catch play some catch with your kids with your family you don't need to do it in the nfl i'm just saying for me hardline stance with that many head injuries and the way it looked playing out on national television for all to see over and over and over again multiple times maybe the best the best decision to make is to move
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Levar Arrington
on with your life he did take a shot this year i forget who it was but i think it was on it might have been a thursday night game i i forget like what there was a game i watched where he did take a shot like it was a legitimate shot to the head and he got right back up so i i do think there's been some time since got right back up but
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Co-host/Analyst
what was your thought when you saw
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Levar Arrington
it hit oh god like somebody call a medic okay yeah like so even
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if he got right back up do you not think that there was an impact on him and on his head even though he was able to get
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Levar Arrington
right back up it's it's the alex smith stuff when alex smith came back from that gruesome leg he suffered i remember the first game back he was playing against the rams and i was watching with my head kind of turned when he got tackled the first time it was aaron donald and i just thought to myself man bring him down and off his feet like don't let his leg get planted don't let so there's always that that sort of cautious
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Co-host/Analyst
and that's a leg that's a leg and so you can move through life like i know because my pops you can move through life with a limb not being what it needs to be like you can limp around you can you know you could use the other hand like but your head look i and i get it much different it's a much bigger conversation when your head
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Levar Arrington
is involved i also think that calls into question you know if all of that stuff was on the table why did the dolphins give him the deal they gave him after all that stuff
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Co-host/Analyst
was on the table it's a very good it's a good good point and
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Levar Arrington
i think i think the reason they did it is because they were sort of in this in between where he didn't show flashes of being the greatest quarterback in the league you're not going to find a mahomes or a josh allen and a tua but he did play and you mentioned this he did play good football it's not like there was a thought that you know the brian flores experiment happened and brian flores for anybody that wants to you know kiss kiss his and talk about oh wow he was right about to know he butchered that from the get go all right like he was pulling a rookie quarterback out of games early so that ryan fitzpatrick could finish it like that doesn't make any sense whatsoever go through the growing pains we talked about this for fernando mendoza and then all of a sudden mike mcdaniel gets there and he he finds something with tua he starts to play at a high level two was good the concussions derailed everything like he played at a high level he played really good football the concussions derailed that stuff got in the way and then this past year happened and you knew that his time was limited in miami based on the fact that he started calling out teammates his time was limited he started he started total time he started calling out teammates there was some and then he had to come back afterwards accidental it seemed
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Co-host/Analyst
good natured good hearted but the way it was perceived after you could hear it that was one of those ones once he heard it he probably wishes he could have it back and i
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Levar Arrington
just you know but it happened and then afterwards they're like what would you think about a change of scenery he goes you know that's probably a good idea like after the seat he just i think he just that change of
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Co-host/Analyst
scenery should be his crib i mean that's that scenery should be the vacating from the nfl altogether i i also
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Levar Arrington
think coach be a coach i also think that he was in an impossible situation because he was always going to be compared to joe burrow and justin herbert like that's that is always first
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Co-host/Analyst
of all he's made it to the playoffs just like those guys joe burrows made it to a to a super bowl i get that but i don't know what joe burrow is going to be moving forward he was like in this weird space this past season and justin herbert always has the bed when when he gets to the playoffs yeah no no he winning let me tell you something hey i said twenty one
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Levar Arrington
years today bro hey jessica alba and madison beer got news for you man
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Co-host/Analyst
i got news for you business as a quarterback is good business is real good at quarterback i'm just saying man hey if he's always going to be compared to them get on my level bro like he he got his money and and he still seemingly i don't know what what tua's you know vitals are on on his his activation and operation of of brain brain function but if you still like bro like save your brain man seriously and i'm not trying to like be on no joking type matter on this it's a very serious thing it's funny because we make it a point to focus in at least i've made it a point to focus in on the amount of concussions and and head injuries he's had but it happens to probably other other players more other positions more than the quarterback's position i just think that there's such a focal point on the position that when something like that happens it hits a little different you know like like when you're watching a movie or cartoon or tv show and in the tv show like the main character is just busting off on people bow shot that person bow shot that person like you could watch them take down at least ten fifteen people but let somebody cut them or let somebody like shoot them and they gotta go it's like oh it hits you different you're like desensitized to actually looking at the impact on others i always say you want to like have a cool show take one of the shows of where the hero is busting off on everybody to get to the mission and then the objective of the tv show and do a story on one of them people that he shot down he mowed down on his way to helping and save somebody's life anyway the point i'm making is is that but we look at tua and the the amount of importance you place on his mental and and head health is probably much higher because of the amount of attention and time that's been put on covering it and showing in it showing it it's almost like it's sensationalized to sit there and show the aftermath and the effects of when he's gotten hit and has sustained these
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Levar Arrington
concussions well you know we from from tua tatooine for some breaking news
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Co-host/Analyst
breaking
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Levar Arrington
news from fox sports guys you know
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Tongan Tuohy
it's you know what time it is
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Levar Arrington
right it's legal tampering time we got
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Tongan Tuohy
our first big signing guys all right well alec pierce from the colts is heading back to indy four years one hundred fourteen million dollars deal according to schefter rapoport ian rapoport a lot of people thought he could be going to new england or potentially washington vegas tennessee that's interesting you know what let's not think chris ballard had it in let's
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Levar Arrington
not bury the lead here that's a win for us to eh yeah we did it
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Co-host/Analyst
oh man everyone out there wondering what jonas knox is talking about alec pierce happens to be
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Levar Arrington
white that guy's see through what do you mean
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Co-host/Analyst
all right yeah clean cut all american looking dude from you know up top
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Levar Arrington
tui told you we could do it
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Co-host/Analyst
play that cincinnati he's a beer cat
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Levar Arrington
you know good for him man and by the way good player good size
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Co-host/Analyst
good height to him good speed very
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Levar Arrington
good deep threat so yeah going back to indy there you go one of the prizes of the off season love me some legal tamper who's going to
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Co-host/Analyst
throw him the ball is it going to be daniel jones you got to figure that one out oh i don't
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Levar Arrington
know tui was campaigning for jack trudeau earlier for some reason i don't know what that was about he's got something
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Tongan Tuohy
left in that arm i think i
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Levar Arrington
mean the colts have run through a lot of quarterbacks over the past several
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Co-host/Analyst
years so who knows so so ursay is making big moves in in indy to make sure she's building that damn right up the right way damn right she's got enough information in her notes that she looked at it when she was in the office and said you know what alec pierce he fits the mold he fits the criteria of somebody that we need to keep here and give a nice contract let's let's that's
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Levar Arrington
elite note taking there it is i understand why you have to just be
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Co-host/Analyst
on that sideline taking them notes bro
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Levar Arrington
by the way be sure to check out our brand new youtube channel for the show just search two pros fsr on youtube again that's two pros fsr be sure to hit the subscribe button don't stop there hit the thumbs up icon and comment away let us know who on the show you agree with who you think is wrong but check out our new channel on youtube again just search two pros fsr and subscribe lavar arrington jonas knox in for the herd today and this went way better than anybody expected over the weekend we'll tell you what it is next be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon eastern nine am pacific
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Co-host/Analyst
breaking news from
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Levar Arrington
fox sports all right great tuohy what
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Tongan Tuohy
do we got this is a big one guys kenneth walker is joining the kansas city chiefs all right big one big one this kind of seemed inevitable after the trent mcduffie trade right like they were gonna going after a big
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Levar Arrington
fish when's the last time they had a dependable running back that you could look at and go that's the guy man i mean priest holmes dang yeah
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Co-host/Analyst
larry johnson came after priest home what up i mean we are well hold on come on larry johnson was a beast but hold on now they had what
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Levar Arrington
charles i like pacheco yeah but
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Co-host/Analyst
just get hurt he gets hurt and
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Levar Arrington
look you had clyde edwards for a
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Co-host/Analyst
while who was hunt there was a two two headed monster hunting who who was that man there there was two backs i don't know they've had some pretty good backs though i just i
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Levar Arrington
look at but they haven't had a guy that you look at and go all right that's lead back right like
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Tongan Tuohy
that's the lead like a derek henry
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Levar Arrington
and you look at what kenneth walker did late in the season zach charbonnet goes down and he was massive for them and i was surprised they didn't they didn't put the franchise tag on him i was surprised they let him walk but i think that's also an indication that they feel like look it's a tough tough call tough decision appreciate everything he did you know he's got to walk at the height of his career just one super bowl mvp but we're just going to go take our chances and try and get cheaper at the running back position try and get cheaper we'll go get cheap like that's that's the way it looks like and we've talked about this before to think where the running back position was years ago when it next to quarterback was the face of the league and to where it is now to where a guy just won super bowl mvp and they're like see you buddy like we'll see you thank you we're not even giving you give you the tag go have fun legal tampering window opens and now patrick mahomes has got some help in the backfield and it's going to be kenneth walker going from seattle listen
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Co-host/Analyst
it is some help it certainly does help kenneth walker is is a fine football player and showed how fond of a player he was by being the best player in this year's super bowl that was going to be a defensive heavy game you were going to need your running game to be a part of it and seattle's run game delivered and kenneth walker delivered i guess i would ask the question it i guess if it improves your team then there's nothing wrong with it but i don't i don't feel as though bringing kenneth walker in alleviates the the pressure that you have mounting in terms of letting mcduffie go on the defensive side of the ball i'm i'm curious to see what they do to shore up their defense to to make sure that their defense is what it needs to be moving forward and and curious as to what do you do at the quarterback's position obviously you're going to try to figure out how to run the ball or get better at running the ball if you're kc because you don't know what the future holds for patrick mahomes right now and and upcoming upcoming weeks and months and and days of of his career so until you can get him back healthy fully in the mix and ready to go and confident in that leg and what he does i would assume that you have to one have a quarterback that can stand in there and help you be competitive until he gets back but two you want to have a running game that alleviates the stress and the pressure on on the guy that you're putting in there and to that point to do it for patrick mahomes when he gets back
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Levar Arrington
as well the chiefs haven't had a thousand yard rusher since twenty seventeen i
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Co-host/Analyst
just looked it up i was like man y' all are right it's just
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Levar Arrington
not been kareem hunt is probably the
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Co-host/Analyst
closest they got to like a guy that that was kind of pushing to be the the bell cow back for
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Levar Arrington
them and and it and you know clearly they've had plenty of success so it's not like well that that's going to really hold him back you know the super bowls the dynasty all that stuff but i do think this is also if you've got a quarterback like mahomes who' the injury and they're optimistic that he's going to be there and ready to go you know to start the year and all all that's fine but worst case scenario he's not there they got to start off the season putting him on the pup list okay or he comes back he is ready for the start of the season but it takes him some time to get used to the new normal which is a surgically repaired leg yeah you're going to need some help and if you've got a back there that you can depend on i look i thought they would have been one of the teams that would have taken a shot at jeremiah love in the draft with a with a top ten pick and go running back in the draft but the fact that they've made this move and we've seen andy reid offenses in philly when he's got a back that can catch the ball out of the backfield that's a love screen oh big time and so i look at that and i go that's where you a guy like kenneth walker can step in and can be of help at a position of need that they've needed for quite a while and then they look at it and they go on defense it's not ideal that we lost trent mcduffie but you know we've got to make they did the same thing with legerius need a couple of years ago and i think that's probably where they try and get better in the draft or who knows maybe you know we'll get a tui tampering update at some point on the show and the chiefs are going to attack the defensive side of
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Co-host/Analyst
the ball you know i think we built patrick mahomes up to be this larger than life figure because he's accomplished so much that would be deserving of the the things that are allotted his way the reverence towards him the the respect factor he's built up a lot of great will not just goodwill but great will and so we talk about patrick mahomes as if he's this invincible figure i think the first thing you got to take a look at is one he did go down to to a serious leg injury that's one for two this offense hasn't been what it's needed to be and need i say i mean i mean he's thrown for some some some good yards during the course of the season having a five thousand yard season not too long ago what twenty twenty two but when eric b enemy left and i'm not i'm not making this about eric b enemy but i'm saying in that moment in time when eric b enemy left the team that offense has seemed to not be the same since that departure took place whatever took whatever happened in that moment of time the offense hasn't seemed to get back on track i mean and obviously you had the the departure of you had the departure of the cheetah and tyreek hill i know what you're doing i i just again i don't i don't and it's interesting we're going to bring i believe we're going to bring tj on today i asked the fellas i asked them on on saturdays by the way nine am west west coast time i asked the fellas on saturday because i i didn't want to feel like i'm going crazy here because at times last week i did is this is this the end of the road like how should we be looking at this kansas city chiefs team right now is the window closing well
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Levar Arrington
you were you were i think you were trying to say and i don't want to put words in your mouth because i would never want to do that but i think you were trying to say that the chiefs should fire andy reid and make eric b enemy
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Co-host/Analyst
that coach yeah that's exactly what i'm not saying let's just run with that that's exactly what we certainly would get we would go viral should we fire that off i'm not trying to i'm not trying to go do shock shock value to get to get views and
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Levar Arrington
listen just see how long we can keep a straight face for but i
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Co-host/Analyst
am saying that that sometimes we may lose track of the fact that patrick mahomes is a person yeah he's not an alien he's not this mythical figure
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Levar Arrington
it's also if we're going to be honest man like you are correct the offense has not looked like this high powered you know houston oilers run and shoot from back for years where you could bring in cody carlson and he throw for five thousand yards like you're not like we're not talking about that the defense has been the more consistent side of the side of the ball
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Co-host/Analyst
and that's the thing like the conversations have always been about well as long as you got patrick mahomes well as long as you got patrick mahomes and the biggest moments of late of recent like oh well they made it to the super bowl their defenses up through the years the defense through the years has come up so big in the most pivotal moments and the most critical moments of their seasons it has been the defense that has delivered and so that's why i led off with back to the original point bringing in kenneth walker is a great move for them because i believe he is a hard nose lunch pail type of guy he's a normal type of guy no diva connected to him in any type of way he's a workhorse that's great for what they're trying to do if they're going to try to bang the ball run the ball establish the run and and be able to have that set up the pass with whatever their quarterback situation is going to be that's that's that's a good move for them but again we we mentioned chris jones getting aged he's he's aging carloftis dope dope player makes plays can this defense return to form and and actually i don't even want to say bail out they have won games for them they have won championships for this team is this defense this year good enough to lead the way and that's going to be the biggest question that has to be answered if if the offense comes back and they're able to be good i would be surprised i really would it it's going to be on the defense to make sure that they carry this team through the course of this upcoming season and is this a defense that can do it i'm a big believer in spags spagnola is a is a great great coach in terms of being able to game plan and find the weaknesses in an offense overload the line bring blitzes from different positions and different places on the field where you thought they were in coverage but they end up coming in on a blitz he overloads he does a really great job but can he bring that to the table this year and probably in my estimation one of the most pivotal years for this kansas city franchise you're just
- [42:12]
Levar Arrington
looking for improvements from year in and year out i think that's every team's goal or at least publicly that's what they say their goal is and so if you're the chiefs and you're coming off a six win season last year you just need to find five wins on the schedule because you already have two with the raiders so if you just find five other on a on the schedule oh watch your mouth everything's gonna be all right cause you do have that that bi week that resides you know right across the street from mandalay bay so there is that so it's not you know we'll keep you posted and again this is the the tui tracker the legal tampering window is open tongan tuohy is here to give us the updates throughout the course of
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this show it is lavarrington amazing job
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Levar Arrington
by the way great job levar arrington jo in for calling this is the herd here on fox sports radio and more good news for one team in the nfl we've got it for you right here on fsr be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon eastern nine am pacific all
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com it's a herd on fox sports radio levar arrington jonas knox in for colin coming up top of next hour we'll call it a little over fifteen minutes from now we're going to tell you how apparently one team is really trying hard to make you forget about a decision they made last off season in the nfl that'll be yours here again a little over fifteen minutes from now before we get to the herdline news want to let you know that if you've missed any of today's show you want to catch the podcast just search two pros wherever you get your podcast right after the show today spot will be posted be sure to follow it rated five stars you can even provide a review again just search two pros wherever get your podcast you'll find today's full show and a best of version posted right after we get off the air and before we get to the herd news we've got more from the tongan tuohy transaction wire the legal tampering window is open greg tuohy what's the latest breaking news from fox sports
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Tongan Tuohy
all right this just came down we we told you last hour that or earlier this hour that alec pierce was resigning in indy that's right well guess what happened now they're trading michael pittman to the steelers lavar steelers sounds like a late round pick swap i'm sitting
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Co-host/Analyst
here looking at a picture of carly ursay right here carly ursay gordon and i see her notes she's walking fine what are you talking about okay yeah so i'm glad that michael p junior is going to the steelers that is a tremendous addition to the team daddy
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Tongan Tuohy
are they trying to are they trying to appease an aaron rodgers return here giving him another weapon potentially feels like
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Co-host/Analyst
it it does feel like that would be a nice duo i i just couldn't understand why they let pickens go you bring in dk if you have dk and pickens if they could coexist that's nice that's a great duo it could be a best tandem developed in in the league instead you a lot of ego though that well i don't know that pittman junior has an ego in this scenario no no no i know what you're saying but what i'm saying is is can they coexist because one ego is more than enough when one ego gets in in the way it still can have an impact on egoless type of guys so i don't know it seems like a good signing though and could be a signal to aaron rodgers to come on back and and throw to these two guys so
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Levar Arrington
when you when we talked about the alec pierce signing there was a graphic that was posted on x from the nfl x account you know colts wide receiver alec pierce agrees to term on an extension with with the indianapolis colts michael pittman junior responds and goes deserved congrats ap and then fifteen minutes later gets traded to the steelers so it's a he probably already knew it cold hearted world out here breaking news fox
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Tongan Tuohy
sports we got quarterback news we got quarterback news packers free agent quarterback malik willis has agreed to a deal or will agree to a deal today with
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Levar Arrington
the miami dolphins that makes sorry makes
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Co-host/Analyst
sense the miami connection makes sense the miami connection liberty and you i mean you blew out tua like you now can ask answer the question why tua was blown out and they didn't wait
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Levar Arrington
so yeah you're right so the the
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Co-host/Analyst
blew him right on out of there
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Levar Arrington
and and also you know jeff halfley was in my is it john eric sullivan who's the gm for the for the miami dolphins now i believe it's john eric sullivan if i'm not mistaken yeah it's i mean but you know i've said it before it's it said like that's a serial killer name i don't care what anybody says it just it sounds like something you would see on a netflix documentary but he's now the gm of the miami dolphins so the connection there malik was in miami jeff halfley was in was malik willis was in green bay jeff halfley was there sullivan was there like the connection like i get it i just is
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Tongan Tuohy
that an upgrade though tua for malik willis is that really i think it's
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Co-host/Analyst
a big question mark i mean but it's the perfect it's the perfect market for a malik willis to go somewhere and if he does great it works out great if it doesn't work out at all it's like why'd you bring malik willis here you just keep moving
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Levar Arrington
forward and i also wonder what's the structure of the contract because we've seen this before teddy bridgewater you know signed a three year deal with carolina it turned out it was a one year they got out of it after the
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Tongan Tuohy
first year according to ian rapaport it will be a three year sixty seven and a half million dollar deal forty five million guaranteed yeah and i wonder
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Co-host/Analyst
if that's manageable that's a manageable that's not a blockbuster contract whatsoever does he
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Levar Arrington
have six starts in his career i think malik willis has got six starts in his career it's got to be
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Co-host/Analyst
under ten yeah there's just a lot of question marks going into this and i know it's been made out for him to be a very very high six starts potential potential acquisition for this off season but we made the conversation point again i'll continue to give pete prisco a lot of credit this has not been a very what what you will be considering a super high profile free agencies market so trades were going to have to come and now we're seeing in this this legal tampering period that the trades are flowing which means that there was probably illegal tampering because of how quickly these trades are firing up i mean i'm just saying you didn't just call me today when when the illegal tampering period just went into effect you just called me today and said let's get a trade done you got to assume that they were planning
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Levar Arrington
these things like breaking up and you're engaged forty eight hours later oh god just you know in that span of time i found the one i'm sure
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Co-host/Analyst
you did i don't even understand how you call it legal tampering like just say you can talk talk like why is it legal tampering that that just
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Levar Arrington
seems like yeah it is so malik willis the the brand new quarterback for the miami dolphins you know but is
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Co-host/Analyst
that the only move at the quarterback's position that doesn't scream starter that contract doesn't scream starter i was kind of
- [53:44]
Levar Arrington
hoping for quinn ewers just getting out there slinging it around a little bit and see what we got you know
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Co-host/Analyst
just you're not that far out in the water water with that yeah i mean you think that's a significant you're
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Tongan Tuohy
giving him forty five million guaranteed to not start that's a lot of money
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Co-host/Analyst
yeah but the market that's well below market value of a of a franchise
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Tongan Tuohy
maybe compete right yeah i'll give you this to compete but i don't think that's backup money i mean it is
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Levar Arrington
the dolphins we've seen their track record maybe they're giving them this contract so they can to you know cut him and then swallow more money for the next year hey man i'm just saying anything's on the table there in south
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Co-host/Analyst
beach i think you could get out of the way of it with that contract track she talking about willis i know just an opinion
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