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Colin Cowherd
the Volume Podcast Network. Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast. Oh my favorite time of the year outside of the football season is NFL Free Agency and NFL Draft and we got a. We got a trade today, just came down 10 minutes ago. Live in Chicago, it's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be watching or listening, whatever the platform is, appreciate it. Mark Few Gonzaga basketball coach stopping by today. A couple of weeks away from March Madness. So we had a huge trade one minute before yesterday's show between the Rams and the Chiefs. We've got another one just came down. Bears and the Buffalo Bills. So everybody has been throwing shade at Brandon being the GM of the Bills. I like the move. He just got D.J. moore wide receiver, a number one wide receiver who never misses starts. The dude hasn't missed a start in like five years. DJ Moore worked with Joe Brady, the head coach, the new head coach of the Bills in Carolina and he had his best year. So DJ Moore is absolutely a number one. The Bills drafted Luther Burden and Roman Dunz and they've got Colston Loveland and two back. So Chicago doesn't need. They gotta, they gotta start getting ready. They may have to make another move here. Max Crosby maybe need some cap space. But now Buffalo, Buffalo's got their quarterback, their running back, their left tackle, slot receiver, excellent tight ends. Now they've got their number one. So if Keon Coleman, you know, who knows, maybe he works, maybe he doesn't. Takes wide receivers a while to work themselves into, you know, high end luxury play. If he works, great. If he doesn't, fine. But look at Buffalo's offense and they're going to give up mid round pick, probably give up like a four. But this is a move I like. Then it also creates clarity. Buffalo can now use all their picks on the defensive side because they've got slot perimeter, young receiver, quarterback that doesn't get hurt much, left tackle, running back, tight ends, they're set. Nice move. And the Bears little cap relief here. Maybe big game hunting. And I want to talk about that because the Rams yesterday gave up another first round pick. Now they still have one left, but they have traded nine of their last ten first round picks. Yet they're super bowl favorites. Yet they have the second most playoff wins outside of Kansas City in the last eight years, only one losing season. How do they do it? How is it possible? Deepest roster next to Seattle in the league, maybe Philadelphia. How do they do it? In that same time period the jets have had 12 first round picks, the Raiders have had 11 and they both stink. It's not that the Rams undervalue picks, but is it possible the rest of the league mostly overvalues picks. We've talked about this with the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys fall in love with their picks. They don't spend much money in free agency. The Cowboys draft somebody, then they pay him, and they often pay them two or three times. I don't like that. There are just many ways to be great in this league. The Seahawks do it through the draft and then go small game hunting. The Rams get a lot of picks in the mid rounds like Puka and Kyron Williams. And then they go big game hunting. The Bon Day, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, Trent McDuffie yesterday. It's not like the Rams are giving away the first round picks for nothing. They got golf, Jalen Ramsey, McDuffie, Matt Stafford. So they're getting something for it. But success and excellence in the NFL once again is not just one framework. You know, it cracks me up when you go on TikTok. It's like, here's how to solve your liver, here's how to absolutely invest. This will guarantee a longer life. It's a bunch of grifters. There's a lot of different ways. Some people have good genetics, some people have bad genetics, some people eat like crap and look great at 60. There's no one way to do anything. Hell, Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan both made a Batman movie. They both worked okay and they were very different. So, you know, the Rams do it one way. They're trading a first rounder. The Buffalo Bills just went out and took a big swing. I would say this with the Chicago Bears. I think part of moving DJ Moore is open up space for Max Crosby. Max Crosby is so much better than anybody you're going to draft at the end of the first round. What the Chicago Bears are doing. So I'm not against or for trading first round picks, but if I get Max Crosby, Jalen Ramsey in his prime. Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, Trent McDuffie. Absolutely. Okay, so it's funny about this, and we've said this before, is that, you know, everybody likes their president that they vote for, right? Everybody hates Senators, except sometimes their own. You know, we're all that way. So people loved Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan spent a lot of time at the free throw line. He wants to average 12 free throws a game. Nobody complained. Three times. Kobe Bryant averaged 10 free throws a game. Nobody complained about it. KD crickets. He. He averaged early in his career over 10 free throws a game. Crickets. His game is fluid. It's clean catch and shoot fits everywhere. But people are really up in arms because SGA shoots a lot of free throws, but he's shooting last night. Two in the fourth quarter. That was it. Two. And I've never heard a guy get more flack for shooting two in the fourth quarter. Here's Knicks coach in a loss. Very good game on sga.
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SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander)
One of the areas obviously is the free throw line. You know, SGA is a tough cover and he does a great job of convincing the referees, probably better than anybody in the league that, you know, he's getting hit.
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Colin Cowherd
So what people in the NBA are trying to convince me of is that either the league's rigging it for a skinny kid who's not very verbal from a tiny market. Okc. That's what Adam Silver wants. Let's have our powerhouse be in our smallest market. Or you're trying to convince me that the refs on a nightly basis all get fooled. And I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go there. If you don't have shaq's power or LeBron's body or ants vertical and you're six' six and a buck 94, you have to manipulate and you have to find your game. He's a wiry six, six, a buck 95. So for the record, six, six and a buck. I weigh a buck 95 and I'm six one and a half. He's thin in a pro athlete league, he does get bumped a lot, so. And also I think when you don't have certain athletic gifts and he doesn't have big hops, you know, you're not doing tomahawk slams. Tom Brady. Why was he so good pre snap? Same with Drew Brees and Peyton Manning. Because they had to be. Why was Philip Rivers good pre snap? Because he had to be. So I think the truth about this with SGA is you don't like his game. You loved Michael's game. You love Kobe's game, and they lived at the free throw line. You just don't like his game. It's not flashy. It's not fun to watch. Right. And it's not. But I mean, Kevin Durant, Michael Kobe, games people love lived at the free throw line. You know what I look at sga, you know what I see? I see a football player. I say, I see jsn, the wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Neither are truly gifted athletically. SGA or jsn, Both, though, can manipulate coverage. Both ascending statistically. Every year they get better. So they clearly work on their craft. Work ethic, manipulation, IQ, EQ. That's what I see. JSN's always open, and SGA often Gets to the free throw line. How? How do they do it? Because they're smart guys and they use their body and they manipulate other. When you don't have major hops, you don't worry about getting in the air. You worry about getting other people in the air. So SGA does a great job to compromise defenders. So. And for the record, SGA's game is very unique. It fooled the Clippers front office. They gave him away. He was only the number 11 draft pick. So this guy's been fooling the league and tricking the league and making defensive players, putting them in compromising spots. Let's give him credit. It's not about the refs. It's not about the whistle. The Clippers good front office didn't see it. First 10 picks in the draft did not see it. It's like jsn, he's arguably the best player out of that draft, but he wasn't a burner. He doesn't run past people. So. And I, I, we, you know, we love to do that. For the record, I just, I want to show. I mean, I'm not saying SGA doesn't have style here. He was after the game.
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SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander)
Yeah, late game, they were like sending a lot of doubles and I just felt like I hadn't got a shot in a long time and I wanted to like, kind of have my imprint on the game, especially late. So I try to just like a screen came, so I tried to reject it to get space, and then OG was like chasing to cut me off. So I. I knew I had to step back, stepped into it and knock him out.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, why does some things look so good on some people and so bad on other people? That jacket just would not work with me at all. But SGA pulls it off just like he pulls off getting to the free throw line about seven, eight, nine times a game or two times in the fourth quarter last night. Let's give him credit and JSN credit for getting open. It's not about the refs deciding. We want this kind of quiet guy, skinny guy, that's not vertical in tiny Oklahoma City to dominate the league. That's not it. So, J. Mack, the Buffalo Bills, everybody crapped on their gm Brandon Bean. We also have to be fair. If you look at Buffalo this morning, you can look at Baltimore and have questions about Lamar's deal. You can look at Kansas City and ask, are they the third best team in the division? You look at Buffalo's offense, new stadium weather's going to be a little better. Not as windy now they had a number one wide receiver. I'd feel pretty good if I was a Bills fan.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Yeah, for sure. I think this is a big move, especially when you combine it with the Patriots losing Stefan Diggs. Yeah, I mean, you look at the Patriots wide receiver room now and they need a guy, AJ Brown out there on the market. But I think DJ Moore, really good get for the Bills. I think the Bears don't lose much when you consider Luther Burton Roma dun the tight end situation. So I, I think this is actually one of those rare good deals for both teams.
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SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander)
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The way forward is electric. Learn more at lectric for all dot org. You're now entering the no Bull zone sponsored by Credible Great Rates. None of the bull. So the Buffalo Bills have already made a move today. Kansas City made a move yesterday, the Rams did to get Trent McDuffie and they got all sorts of draft picks. Kansas City got a first round pick, a fifth, a sixth, a third round picks. Kansas City now has two first round picks and they've got a couple of needs but everybody is Barry in Kansas City and my take is people did to this with the Rams but they had Stafford and they had Sean McVeigh and they win a Super bowl, they go 5 and 12, everybody's beat up and then all of a sudden next three years playoffs in a great division and now they're favored to win the super bowl next year. Don't bury Kansas City. It's like real estate. If you got an ocean view and a good school district, I don't care what the economy is doing nationally, yours is not going to go through the floor. You're okay. Kansas City with two first round picks and I believe now Kansas City is on a short list of teams that will move up in this draft. Potentially move up. Most people want to move down because it's considered an okay draft. Kansas City at 9 now they've got a couple of fives. Okay, now Kansas City's got two ones. Would not be shocked if Kansas City moved up three or four spots and got Jeremiah Love the running back out of Notre Dame. Problem solved in the backfield. Next pick, get a tackle. Next pick after that get a corner to replace Trent McDuffie. I think you'll be good. So it's just funny to watch everybody bury and I said this when you have the head coach and the quarterback right you can heal. The skin heals very quickly. I mean a great example of that Vrabel ends up with Drake May awful to Super Bowl Chicago train wreck to a play from the NFC championship. So you give me Andy Reid and you give Me, Patrick Mahomes. If they nail their first two picks, by the way, moving off McDuffie, they may be able to afford Walker, the running back out of Seattle. I think they're going to be fine. Here's Albert Breer yesterday on why Kansas City traded McDuffie. A great corner they've drafted and developed
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Mark Few
pretty well the last few years. And you know, so that's meant negotiating new contracts with these guys and some of them get done and some of you, Some of them you don't. So this sort of sets up like the Tyree Kill deal did, right? Like where the Tyree Kill deal gave him an opportunity to reset a bunch of things in their roster.
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Colin Cowherd
So they've got two first, a second, a third, a four, three fives and a six. Watch them play around with their three fives and a six to move up. Get the tackle, get the running back, get the corner. I'm not burying Kansas City J. Mac with the news.
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SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander)
No, no, no. Turn on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd line news.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
All right, Colin, let's start with this DJ Moore trade. It's weird. Like they announced, you know, these reporters are tripping over themselves to announce we got a trade. We don't even know what the compensation was. They're calling it mid round comp could be a third, fourth, fifth. I guess we gotta wait to find out. Obviously it's a good move for Buffalo adding a top tier receiver.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
You called him a one.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, I mean, I don't know.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
I don't. I don't know that it mattered. Low end one, high two. I don't. I don't know. I'm talking about a guy who had 600 yards last year.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but he. Touchdowns also. A lot of that's because the Bears quarterback runs two good backs, two tight ends, other good receivers. That's not because they don't like him. It's because they're fairly stacked on offense. I like this move by Ryan Poles. The Bears gm they got. They want to clear up some space. They got to fix their defensive line. They need more edge, pressure. They need probably a safety and a corner. They got to get faster at linebackers, so their issues are defensive. So if they get it, let's say they get a fourth round pick and a six. You know what, it's a numbers game. More picks, better chance you hit a few of them. So I like it a lot for Buffalo and I like it a lot for Chicago. I really do. Yeah.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Now the only thing with Buffalo. Let's remember that game against Denver in the playoffs. They couldn't get any stops. That's the reason they lost that game. Like Josh Allen, can you manufacture offense? So I like it. I'm just curious what the Bears are going to end up doing in the draft. Colin. So we like their receivers, right? Burden and A dunze, two young, good, cheap receivers. Do they need like a veteran? Do they need one other guy? Because you said yesterday the Rams have Devonte and Puka and they need another receiver. Do the Bears, do they fall into that same situation?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, now the Bears need an edge rusher and a center. I mean, I, I mean Roma Dunz, Luther Burden, I mean they've shown an ability to find skill people. You know, they'll probably again, if they get a mid round fourth, go get another wide receiver. But I think their offense is fine. I, they do have to get a center. But the good news, they have Joe Tunney and Jonah Jackson on the both sides, so they're fine. But Drew Dahlman was a Pro Bowler so they got to get that fixed. But you know, I think Chicago and Buffalo have to feel pretty good today.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Certainly. All right, let's move on to the next story. Sticky in the AFC East. I alluded to this earlier. The Patriots have dumped Stefan Diggs, the troubled wide receiver. He's. I didn't realize this. He's 32 years old. This guy's getting up there in age and we know off the field he's an absolute disaster.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, let's. I, you know, he was, he. Was he a problem this year for
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
New England on the field? No, he was good. He delivered on the field. He was a solid receiver.
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Colin Cowherd
What did he do the field?
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Well, he got in trouble with the law and he's got, you know, a court situation. He's got the girlfriends. Like this guy's been on three teams in three years. Colin, he's gone. It's over for him in New England. I don't know what kind of market there is for him. I think the bigger question is what do the Patriots do to fill that void? And everybody's going to say A.J. brown. I think that's almost too obvious at this point.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
I wonder if some people are speculating. Maybe they throw a Hail Mary. They've got a lot of cap room given the quarterback on the rookie deal. Do they go after Pierce, the stretch, the field receiver from Indy?
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Colin Cowherd
I like Pierce a lot. I think that's a good call. Listen, they got to get their offensive line right. They need an edge Rusher Pierce would be a good fit for me. I like him.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
So the problem is the numbers that are being thrown around are a little goofy. They're like, oh yeah, he could get 30 million a year.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm like, whoa, hold on. What?
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Like, listen, he's a good stretch the field guy. He was fantastic with Daniel Jones throwing the deep ball. Drake May throws a great deep ball. It feels like a natural fit.
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Colin Cowherd
But 30 mil, I think if. I honestly think the young receivers for New England, probably well coached, get better. My take is if you get the offensive line right in New England, you won't have to worry as much about wide receiver. They got to a Super bowl with a very average O line and J. Mack, that is hard to do. Cincinnati did that with Burrow and New England did it. It's hard to get playoff W's with an average O line. So my take, if they significantly upgrade their offensive front, New England's going to be fine at wide receiver.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
I totally forgot this. Last year the Patriots were rumored to have made a play at Chris Godwin. Well, his teammate Mike Evans is on the market. Mike Evans, now, he's a great red zone target.
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Colin Cowherd
Would be awesome.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Yeah, we know he's a very talented player.
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Colin Cowherd
Older, good red zone guy.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Interesting. So Patriots got options and they got the quarterback on the rookie deal. Final story. Colin is baseball team usa.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Oh my gosh, they're just hammering teams. Beat the Giants 15 to 1. Scored 14 on the Rockies in exhibition play. They took on Brazil. Tomorrow at 8 Eastern on Fox. It should be a very good game and we've already had two good games in pool play. South Korea beat. Check, check 11 4. And Australia shut out Chinese Taipei, 3 0. Obviously, everybody's fired up to see Ohtani. Tomorrow morning, 5:00am Eastern on FSB.
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Colin Cowherd
I think this was a smart buy by us. I'll be honest with you. I don't want to suck up the bosses, but I. There's one or two things if I ran a sports network that are under the radar that I would spend money on. This is actually especially coming in an Olympic year. This is a winter Olympic year. People are into the patriotism. I think people will enjoy that. I bet you this does better than people think. I think it's going to do well.
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Mark Few
Yeah.
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Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
I mean, listen, you got the big names, right? Judge Ohtani, you got Bryce Harper. Bryce Harper, Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. It's interesting. We had Rick Patino on yesterday and he was great. And by Gonzaga Standards, even though they've won, I think 22 or 23, they're 28 and three. They're kind of under the radar for Gonzaga standards. And Mark Few, who has a pretty high standard himself, two time national coach of the year. You know, I had Patino on yesterday. He's a pretty good coach. I'm not sure you heard of him. He's a pretty good coach. And I asked him, I said, you know, a lot of these guys get older and they get out of this business. And I'm like, you're still firing away. And he's like, listen, you got to adapt. He goes, I've got guys from Ghana and Europe. He's got five continents and you still have amazing energy. And I think knowing you a little bit, I think one of the things you're good is adaptability.
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Colin Cowherd
And Pitino kind of laughed at it. He was like, I got so many European players. Give me. If I said to you over the last three years, Mark, you've had to make, you've had to adapt with something with the nil and transfer point, what is the one thing you've had to totally adapt to?
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Mark Few
Well, first of all, great job kissing up to the bosses and name dropping in the last, you know, 45 seconds. Mission accomplished. Well, awesome question. Hard to maybe say the one thing, you know, I would say kind of the, you know, as, you know, following us all these years, we redshirt guys and we have them in our program 3, 4, 5.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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Mark Few
Years. And that was the standard. Right. And now kind of looking around, I got a bunch of one year guys that are either freshmen or transfers and maybe a two year guy here and there. But yeah, just the general continuity in college basketball and that can be, you know, also due to guys leaving early for the NBA and all that. But that's been the hardest thing, I think is just always fighting for your culture. Even though, like you're looking around and like, you got to explain it to these guys.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Mark Few
You know, and they haven't experienced it yet.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know, your front court scoring is big this year. Not as much in the back court. And when I think of Gonzaga, I kind of always think of balance from the bench on. But it feels like to me, a lot of your scoring this year is front court instead of back court. Does that, you know, everybody talks about guard play in the tournament. Does that concern you at all?
- [30:22]
Mark Few
Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah, it does. And our, our backcourt play has been spectacular at times and then not so spectacular at times. And so it does. But you know, I think back to your point about adaptability. I think, you know, over the years we've been front court dominated. We've been back court dominated. We've been great balance dominated. If you think of that 21 team and you know, this year we got a fantastic interior player and Graham Ike, we had two of them with Braden Huff and Graham. I think that that's probably Colin been the biggest story to us this year. We've never faced the, the level of adversity via injuries that we have this year. I mean, Braden Huff's a national caliber award guy and for him to be out this long and then we've lost Jalen Worley and we even lost EK for a while.
- [31:13]
Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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Mark Few
So it's been really strange.
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Colin Cowherd
Patino was saying yesterday with the NIL bringing kids from Europe over that he doesn't remember college basketball being this deep and strong. I watched Mich last Friday play Illinois. It's like an NBA. They're huge. So you got, you guys played them and got kind of rolled. I mean, I, I don't sure how you prepare for them. What did you make of Michigan, the odds on favorite?
- [31:42]
Mark Few
Well, they were terrific the night we played them. They. The one thing they did that night that I think is they're just their slightest little hiccup in their, you know, team and it's not really even a hiccup, but they shot the ball extremely well. They shot the COVID off it against us and Dusty even said so afterwards. But their size, you're so right, is, I mean, it's NBA level size, quite frankly, with the bodies and everything. They're playing, you know, Luxembourg at the three, you know, and he's probably 692-50- or something. And great size around the rim. Great plan. Move the ball really well. They were spectacular in transition back then. And again, you know, in that game, you're three games in three days. You don't really have a whole lot of time to prepare for them. The teams in their league have started to kind of game plan for them a little bit. They're good, Tommy. My old assistant Tommy Lloyd's having a great year at Arizona. They're very, very good. There's some really, really nice teams out there. When we get totally healthy, I think we can compete with any of them, you know. But in the meantime, I give this group a lot of credit. Man. We've just been hanging in there, winning games even though we've been down some pretty key personnel.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, I was thinking about you the other day. Because Krzyzewski put you in. Bayheim, you know, you guys were the Olympic coaches. You guys have always. You and Bayheim are close, and Bayheim got a lot of crap. But I'll say this for Bayheim, he leaves Syracuse. Well, what happened to Syracuse? There are. And I asked you once about John Calipari, and you're like, you guys, he's a great coach. It's funny that people get certain labels in coaching. And now all you college guys, I think college feels a little more pro with all the international stuff. Has it changed you as a coach? Dealing? Sometimes there's language barriers a lot of the European guys aren't used to. They're not as good defensively. Pitino said, some of these guys couldn't guard me. Has it changed you as a coach?
- [33:44]
Mark Few
No. I mean, I think I hate to just, you know, as, you know, just throw out stereotypes and generalize. You know, Sabonis was a fierce, fierce, tough as they come. Runowski was, you know, was made as big impact on the defensive end as anybody. Might even been defensive player of the year. And that year he should have been. So, you know, it's individual to individual. I would say, having done and have all the great experiences with USA Basketball, this high turnover rate to what you said, the adaptability, boy, you sure learn from those guys, you know, how to adapt with just, you know, their rosters are always changing at the NBA level, and guys are out and load managing and. And doing all this. Oh, that's really helped, I think, and just maybe, maybe a little more patience and maybe understanding that, hey, you know, we're not going to click, like maybe our 21 team did or our 19 team or whatever. But, you know, there's some things we do really, really well that are a little different maybe, than some of those teams. We're a really, really good defensive team this year. It's a little bit underrated.
- [34:56]
Colin Cowherd
The nil. Has it made some players harder to coach?
- [35:02]
Mark Few
You know, I was really leery of that and watching it really closely, and I. In my experience. No, you know, I mean, it's just. Now, listen, man, it is a royal pain in the rear here when we hit the off season like you wouldn't believe, because literally we have no rules. I mean, you could sign with me tomorrow and then, you know, sign with somebody else a week from now. And. And so there's. We literally have no rules right now. I think that's the hardest thing, this roster building. But you know what? Once, like, practice, once you get into your mode, you have your team in the fall and you start practicing. I haven't noticed any difference along those lines. You know, there is. Colin, though. This. There is the difference of, you know, I mean, you just, you're not maybe quite as hard on guys as you used to be back in the past, challenging them and stuff.
- [35:59]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Because they can bail. But, you know, you, I mean, you don't recruit. I mean, you don't recruit a lot of high maintenance guys. I mean. Yeah, you don't, you don't have. That's not really your. I mean, if you go to Gonzaga, you got to leave your ego at the door. I mean, I, I, you know. Right.
- [36:15]
Mark Few
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, and listen, I. Now to go into shameless self promotion or something here, but we had, we have this wonderful documentary that just was done on Gonzaga basketball and they premiered it the other night and I watched it and it brought home so many of these points of what our program's all about, you know, and one of it was that was, you know, we don't deal with high maintenance and, you know, you're here to, you know, there's a culture here and there's a family atmosphere here. There's a work ethic here that's just innate and everybody just kind of buys into it and, and it was great to have our current guys sit through that thing and watch it. So many of them, you know, you think they know it, but they don't. And I don't want to bore you, but the best story I got out of that, we have a transfer, Ty, on Grant Foster. And I said, ty, what was the biggest thing you took out of that? And he's like, coach, man, I couldn't believe Adam Morrison was at the thing last night, you know, And I was like, ty, you know, he's our radio guy and is at half our meals on the road and walking around here and he's around the gym. He's like, I didn't even recognize him. He remembered him with long hair and a mustache and he had no idea. I don't know. So sometimes it's good to be just reminded of what this place has been all about, what it stands for and why we've kind of had the run we've had.
- [37:40]
Colin Cowherd
I don't even know how old you are. You're in great shape and you're like, you work out and you bike everywhere. How long are you going to do this?
- [37:48]
Mark Few
Oh, man, as long as it's, it's still, you know, something. I'd say something that you enjoy and how can you not enjoy, you know, being around athletics like you. You know, like, you, too. You know, we're. You get to talk about it. You're around it all the time. You know, I would say when. As long when I quit feeling like maybe I'm having as big impact on them and not, you know, helping them grow as much as. As you can, I'd say that would be.
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SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander)
That.
- [38:14]
Mark Few
That's going to be the big kind of flexion point for me.
- [38:18]
Colin Cowherd
Who's the best player you played this year in the sport? Single best player you faced?
- [38:23]
Mark Few
Oh, man, Luxembourg was terrific against us. He had the first jump shot right in front of me and, and was just physically, I thought he was. He was the best. We haven't, you know, teed it up against any of these freshmen. They're having some great years, but, you know, there's some veterans out there that are having some great years that I think are getting a little overlooked with all this freshman hype.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, do you. I'm not into this tournament expansion. I don't like it. I don't even like the first four nonsense. Start on Thursday. 64 teams. I'm good. Don't confuse my small brain. I don't want it. What do you make of. What do you make of expansion?
- [39:02]
Mark Few
I'm. I'm with you on it. I don't think it needs to be watered down anymore. And, you know, I don't want to dilute the regular season. You know, I want this last month where people are. Are really sweating it and scratching to. To get into this thing and make it something that's really, really prestigious to just to get into. To have your name called on Selection Sunday. That's still a big thing to me, to see Gonzaga pop up there on Selection Sunday. And I think, you know, adding more is just going to water it down.
- [39:37]
Colin Cowherd
His winning percentage is 83%.
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- [39:42]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, you see, Kevin Durant said he plans to play in the Olympics in Los Angeles. You know, KD pretty well. What was he like to coach?
- [39:50]
Mark Few
Awesome. Just awesome. Awesome guy. Just a wonderful player and just a great teammate. He was so great as a teammate, and the synergy between him and Anthony Edwards was just priceless. Anthony Edwards, you know, grew up idolizing kd and they were kind of on the floor together a lot with our. One of our groups, and it was fun to watch even Ant kind of defer to him a little bit and get such great joy when he saw KD hit a jumper and just, you know, Steph's threes and, you know, Lou Alcindor, Skyhook, Kevin Durant's pull up man has to go down as one of the most legendary, you know, iconic shots in all of basketball history. I think it's as about as automatic as you can get.
- [40:43]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I said if you take out centers and you had an all time one on one tournament, I would take KD to even beat MJ because I don't think MJ could stop him. And I don't think, I don't think LeBron could shoot with him. I think KD individually is as good an offensive player. I'm not talking about, you know, I don't want Shaq in my one on one tournament or Kareem. But if you took all the other players, I've never seen a guy score. Maybe you have because you coach pros and it looks so easy. You can give him the ball in the last second and a half of the shot clock. He gets an effortless jumper, he can
- [41:16]
Mark Few
get it off on anybody anytime he wants. You know, you can get that shot off no matter what defense you're in. But, but let's pause for a second. Let's not discount, you know, LeBron and one on one, he's still got that heart, he's still got that brain, he's still got that toughness. I wouldn't count him out on any sport where you're keeping score.
- [41:36]
Colin Cowherd
Mark Few, Gonzaga coach, as always. You know, it's okay to suck up to your bosses once in a while. You're a powerful coach. You don't have to suck up to your ad. I'm still just trying to get by here and get a check. All right? We're in different worlds.
- [41:48]
Mark Few
Yeah, right. Killing it in the ratings thing, demanding a move to Chicag. Like I say, you're doing okay for yourself. Congratulations, dude. Hey, I'm going to the state tournament today in Washington. You remember those days?
- [42:03]
Colin Cowherd
Where is it at St. Mary's UPS.
- [42:05]
Mark Few
Tacoma Dome. Tacoma Dome. So, yeah, I figured you'd remember those days back in the old stomping grounds.
- [42:12]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah. Boy, I'd get on a heater, you couldn't stop me, that's for sure. A little crossover pull up couldn't stop me.
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Colin Cowherd
like, all right. That's right. Good seeing you, Mark.
- [42:23]
Mark Few
Yeah, you too, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I remember. Yeah, the Tacoma Dome, that when I was really young, there was no Tacoma Dome, it was the Kingdome. Then they built the Tacoma Dome and they put all the high school state championships in there. Okay, it is a Done deal. The Bills deal's a done deal.
- [42:42]
Mark Few
Woo wee.
- [42:46]
Colin Cowherd
Bears got a second and a fifth. Bears got a second round pick off D.J. moore. Wow. A second and a fifth. So the Bears now hold on, hold on. Oh,
- [43:07]
Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Dj moore. And if. Yeah, dj moore.
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Colin Cowherd
The bills are sending a 20, 26 second round pick to the bears. Okay, so basically Chicago's going to have a first and two seconds and a third. That's the key. The four top picks for the Bears.
- [43:26]
Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
I mean, Colin, this is a horrible deal for the Bills. What, what happened to mid round compensation? A second round pick for DJ Moore. What does that mean? AJ Brown's worth. Stunned. I'm stunned. Holy cow, that's a lot for D.J.
- [43:40]
Colin Cowherd
moore. So the Bills got D.J. moore in a fifth round pick. Yeah.
- [43:44]
Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
And the Bears got a second round pick for D.J. moore who had 600 yards and six touchdowns. Well, he's a good receiver, but a second round pick, that seems really rich, Colin.
- [43:54]
Colin Cowherd
Holy cow.
- [43:57]
Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
I don't know. A second round pick, that's huge value. You could get receivers down.
- [44:03]
Colin Cowherd
If I said deliver those numbers. Had 850 yards. Remember he had his best year under Brady down in Carolina. If I said DJ Moore had 850 yards and six touchdowns, you'd be like, okay, second round pick who hit about 57% of the time, 60% of the time, that's. I don't know, I mean, listen, I like, I like proven stars who don't miss Games Fair. That's D.J. moore. He hasn't missed a start in forever.
- [44:30]
Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Does this speak to a desperation level that the Bears would give up a second round pick for D.J. morris? Sorry, the Bills, we give up a second round pick for D,J.
- [44:38]
Colin Cowherd
Moore. I wouldn't say desperation. It's a need.
- [44:41]
Fox Sports Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)
Well, they clearly didn't have the ammo for A.J. brown, so they're like, all right, well we'll go for DJ Moore.
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