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The Bears are upset because they're not being fawned over by a national announcer. And the Dodgers remain the best run organization in North America. I don't care what league. I don't care if it's college. There is no organization. From research and development drafting scout. The Dodgers are unbelievable. It's an impeccable organization that's gotten to the playoffs, what, 12 out of 13 years. J. Mac, you looked at Milwaukee all year, and they swept the Dodgers, right? They beat him six times. And so I thought, oh, and the Dodgers bullpen. Oh, liability. Yeah. This is a mismatch. Let's talk about it. Yoshi. Last night, Yamamoto. Unbelievable. You know the brewers are in trouble when they throw their ace, Freddy Peralta, who was virtually unbeatable at home. Untouchable at home. They also get a leadoff home run in the first inning. Bottom of the first, and they get blown out. And this thing should have been worse. The Dodgers were 2 for 11 with runners in scoring position. They stranded 10 batters. How many times do they load the bases? It's all about pitching. Yoshi Yamamoto, Blake Snell in game one. And by the way, Ohtani and Glass now are coming up. We worried about the Dodgers bullpen against the Phillies. It would be their undoing. Okay, the Brewers. It'll be their undoing. We knew Cincinnati was overmatched. It's not. Ohtani's not even playing well. Ohtani swinging at terrible pitches. So Milwaukee feels outclassed. And the Dodgers have so many bats. I know you all want to say it's about money. Steve Cohen, Isn't he, like, the richest. The Mets owner, The richest guy in baseball. The Yankees have plenty of money. They don't spend it wisely. The Dodgers do a great job. I mean, their. Their. Their menu is so deep. Doesn't matter if the milk make milkshake machine in back is broken. They got somebody else stepping up so Ohtani can't hit in the series. Here's Tay. Oscar Hernandez. Or. Or Max Muncie. And I think the Dodgers were very wobbly this year. They blew all those games. Blue 26 save opportunities. But it's like the Chiefs dynasty. It's like the Brady Belichick dynasty, it's like the warriors dynasty. It is hard to stay self motivated. Baseball is so long. It is hard from day one of spring training to now to stay motivated. And you know, you're the best team and the deepest team. And so the Dodgers treat the regular season like a lot of us treated college. You know, it's. You do the bare minimum for most of the school year and then on the finals it's an all nighter. And the, and the Dodgers now are buttoned up outside of Ohtani, who is just in an all time slump right now. Two for his last 25 start of the Philly series. And Ohtani swinging at bad pitches like he is out of sorts. Ohtani is lost. He'll pick it up in the mound when they go back to Los Angeles. But the, the bullpen liability, it doesn't matter. I mean Blake Snell was so dominant in Game 1. It was Koufax level dominance that Yoshi last night was really, really good. But it didn't really compare. It's just the starting pitching is just covering up all the warts. The Ohtani slump, the runners in scoring position, left on base. And here is Dave Roberts afterwards. I think if you look at the construction of our roster currently, you know, the strength is starting pitching and you know when you can have your most talented pitchers get the most outs, then you're in a good spot. And right now, you know, all four of those guys are in a really good headspace. Physically, they're sound and you know, you feel good about those guys starting a game and pushing them and they're prepared for this. It is interesting though is that Dave Roberts regular on the show, he pulled Blake Snell who was even more dominant. And then last night with Yamamoto who was dominant but not quite as dominant, he just let him go. And I think it's kind of fascinating. I would have argued you let Snell go because he was so dominant and it was the first game of a series and I wouldn't trust my bullpen if I could steal one in Milwaukee. But once I had the win in Milwaukee and I had a bigger cushion, a four run lead, you could have argued you could go to the bullpen last night, you got a series lead, you got a four run cushion. So I, I understood if he pulled Yoshi last night, he, he didn't complete game. But the Snell was so dominant in game one. Just get that in the books. Don't worry about tomorrow, get the win first game of a series. But you know Dave Roberts has said these are 50, 50 decisions. You can go either way. But the Dodgers starting pitching is covering up all these runners left on runners in scoring position can't drive them home. Otani is completely lost. The starting pitching is that good. So you know, when I got into this business as a kid and I'm talking about when I was like 7, 8, 9, 10 years old, the sportscasters that I was always attracted to as a kid were the ones that were like, honest. I'm not. I even at 8, 9, 10 years old, if my team played bad, it was okay for the local sports announcer to say my team played bad. So I almost always defend people in my business that are critical of teams even if they win because a lot of, you know, a lot of local, you know, they're there, there's some pom pom waving and everything's sunny and rosy. So Troy Aikman, apparently what did not, did not hand out flowers after the Bears and Caleb Williams just beat Washington. So here's what Ben Johnson said about a former Fox broadcaster's comments.
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It sounded like from that game the other night, a few people weren't particularly pleased with, with how we were winning right now.
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So I heard some of the commentary. But listen, in this league, any way you can find a way to win is a big deal. Of course it is. But the Bears are three and two and they're a blocked kick and a fumble from being one and four. And Caleb Williams, who, you know, I, I loved out of college is a work in progress right now. He remains dead last in the NFL in expected completion percentage. What is that? That's when the game's over. People look at tape translation. He should be completing 72% of his throws. He's at 61 and a half. They're leaving a lot of completions on the floor. So coming out of college, the concerns on Caleb Williams were consistent. Accuracy still a problem in the NFL. And could he play with Instructure now he's getting better at that, but he's still last in the NFL getting the ball out of his hands. He holds the ball too long and and he's not consistently accurate. So year two in the NFL with a great offensive young coach still problems. Remember that video that came out in camp when Caleb Williams, you all told me to downplay it. Media's going overboard. When he had that moment. He's thrown into a net and he Got so upset at himself because he badly missed a throw from eight feet away. It's a real thing. This was the concern out of college. He's still missing too many throws. This is not subjective. It's objective. It's happening in front of you. All the data tells you this. So if an announcer is willing to say unpopular things, I'm here for it. So, you know, it just. It's just very interesting to me that a team that's three and two and for the record, you were watching it. Washington is driving for the win in the COVID and they fumbled it. Bad handoff. So. And even on the Bears winning drive on Monday, Caleb had one completion. It was DeAndre Swift's game. We talked about this on Tuesday morning. It was about DeAndre Swift and the offensive line creating massive holes. So if you watch Jalen, Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams play on Monday, Jaden was the more accurate quarterback. He's operationally. Accuracy at this point, he's a little more refined. You kind of know what you're getting with Jaden Daniels if he's healthy. You don't quite know what you're getting with Caleb Williams. Yes, I agree. You're 3 and 2. Celebrated. I said it on. On Tuesday after the win. I'm like, it's the Bears. They won on the road. They won a close game. You can see the coaching. There's a touchdown difference. Caleb last year, Caleb this year, 18 to 25 points a game. But this idea that everybody's supposed to fall in line. Caleb is still struggling with accuracy. He is missing guys within 12 yards. He's holding the ball too long. And these were the concerns out of college. Consistent accuracy, playing within structure. Now, I do think the structure element, he's getting better at. I do think he could run more often than he's running. So I, I just. I think Caleb deserves credit for that. When you're as gifted as him, it's very easy to take off. Lamar Jackson had to get hit a few times by year four, Lamar didn't run as much. Caleb has or. And Caleb could run for a lot of yards. Caleb's doing a better job to plan structure. I will defend him all day on that. But the accuracy thing, they're leaving some completions out. They're. They're there a lot. Little swing passes. So here's Ben on, on Ben Johnson about what he told Caleb on training camp and how he was going to coach him this year. Standard has been set. The bar has been set high. He has said that he wants to Be not just one of the best top five quarterbacks in this league, but he wants to have a legacy that lasts for a long time. And so we're coaching him that way. We're approaching it that way. That's not going to change. Is he going to be a finished product here year two now? Yeah, he's not a finished product. And that's why a national broadcaster should say nice win, but there's a lot of work here. Like I know when I feel an announcer is being overly negative, I've heard that before. But my take on all these national broadcasters, they'd rather be optimistic and they'd rather be positive. I think it's refreshing when any of them can go that's not good enough yet. They won, but they're leaving a lot on the floor, lot on the table. I appreciate that. I don't need you to blow smoke. I'm not looking for rainbows and pots of gold. Just give me honesty, right? Like I'm a grown up. I remember again when I was a kid, When I was 8, 9, 10 years old, I liked Howard Cosell. I like the local sportscasters that I thought were telling me the truth, not blowing smoke, which I didn't even know what blowing smoke meant then maybe my sister smoking behind the house. So just, just be honest. I'm good with it. I don't need rainbows. J. Mac James Franklin Penn State coach out Marcus Freeman Notre Dame coach is being, is being wooed by the Nittany Lions.
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No shot whatsoever. That's a downgrade from Notre Dame to Penn State. No disrespect to the folks in Happy Valley, but come on, that's a Marcus dream is not doing. His next stop will be the NFL calling.
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Well, there's nothing like a little distraction during usc. Oh, I like that. So you know, it's. This is one of the things that's cool about October. It's my favorite month by far. The weather turns, it's nice and cool. You can wear the jackets. But the other thing now is in these baseball series, it is, it is the time unless you're a die hard, a steam head. It is the time where us casuals who don't break down the games during the regular season that you really dive deep. I said this on Monday. I had the, I had the baseball game on the big screen and, and I'm watching on, you know, I'm watching on the smaller screens. I'm watching. Football is one of the things that is remarkable about the Dodgers. It's really remarkable. Is anytime there's a dynasty. And right now the Dodgers look, I mean, good luck to the Mariners. But the Mariners are a little bit like the Brewers. They're really solid, don't have a lot of holes, but don't have a ton of star power. When Freddie Peralta goes last night and the Dodgers are getting runners on the base, Milwaukee's doing everything they can. They're outclassed. Their manager knows it. But there's something about the Dodgers that people do not talk about. And I want to talk about that next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, this is Jay. I'm the producer of the Paulie and Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen to this show. The hosts are two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to this show so it can get canceled. What the hell are you doing in our studio? Get them, Paulie. Ignore that fool. Listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. He's still moving Weighted vests are everywhere right now, and it's not just a fad. 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First, you can message privately with everybody in a group, even if you're using totally different phones. Sent a message too fast and instantly regretted it. No problem. Just edit it and when the chat goes a little too intense, you can switch to a group video call and actually talk it out. Photos and videos come through clear and messages get delivered without gaps or delays. Plus WhatsApp has many great features like polls and pinned messages and even event invites with RSVP is cool so planning stuff doesn't turn into a mess. It just makes a lot of sense. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone. Pro teams, right? And so I was like Cincinnati Red in the Kansas City Royal and a Pittsburgh Pirate and a Philadelphia Philly fan and my, my, my first sports memory is going to watch Reggie Jackson the Yankee bus pull up at the Kingdome. That's one of my first big sports memories. I projected most of my love for sports because the Pacific Northwest, Seattle didn't have pro teams until like 76, 77, didn't have the Mariners until then, didn't have the Seahawks until then. I was more of a college fan and so like I, I, I've always looked at the whole menu of sports in this country. I don't really think I'm a fan of a particular region. People called me a Patriots homer when I used to work at the other place because I lived in Connecticut. But the minute the Patriots were bad, I stopped talking about them. I think I was more of a Brady fan. So I like greatness, I like efficiency, I like well run businesses. So having lived in Southern California, I think the Dodgers, I, I bang on the Lakers all the time. I don't think the Lakers have been well. I don't think the Lakers have been well run. I don't always think USC has been well run. I think the Rams are well run and I think the Dodgers are the best run team I've ever seen. Yes, money matters. But Ohtani last year didn't pitch as the Dodgers won the World Series and didn't have a very good postseason. This year he can't hit it all. So they have not been winning in the postseason because of Ohtani. He's been a great regular season player, but I mean, I don't like. Listen, the Browns and the jets are playing in week 10. All pass, you knock yourself out. I'm not watching. So it's not about money. It's payroll creativity, it's scouting, it's getting the right money on the right people. Yankees have a ton of money. They're over indexed on home runs. Mets have a ton of money. They're the Mets. So they'll give you an example. Tommy Edmond was in St. Louis. The Cardinals had him. He was a good defensive player who hit about.265. The Dodgers bring him in, pay him a little more. Last year he's the NLCS MVP and he's hitting.318 in the playoffs. Tommy Edmonds was available for everybody. Anybody could have had Tommy Edmond. Toronto and Seattle both had TE Oscar Hernandez. Seattle let him go after a year. He's a monster for the Dodgers. Is anybody more consistent in big games? Freddie Freeman and TE Oscar Hernandez, they're great. And he decided last year, I'll stay with the Dodgers and take less money. Max Muncie was so bad with the A's, who are essentially a triple A baseball team. He was with him two years. The A's let him go. The A's let Max Muncie go. Last night he had another home run. So like Max Muncie, Tommy Edmond, Teosca, Hernandez, the whole sport could have him. Well, well, Ohtani. I'm not saying money doesn't matter, but Ohtani has not been the reason they're winning last year's World Series and they'll. They're favored to win this year's. He not the reason he can't hit. He is lost at the plate right now. I mean, he is swinging at bad stuff. And baseball does this like golf. A lot of downtime stuff gets into your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they outbid people for Freddie Freeman, hall of Famer, absolutely. But they were ahead of everybody on Roki Sazaki and Yamamoto. They were looking at those guys for years before they brought him over. I said on the air multiple times, I think three years before Ohtani, he was with the Angels three years earlier and the Dodgers were moving the chess pieces and making the contacts to get him legally. So it's not just about the money. The Mets have it, the Astros have it. Astros are a really well run organization. They just had a ton of injuries this year. But when I watch the Dodgers, I appreciate there's, there's all these guys on this roster. Like the Yankees have money. They're totally uneven. They don't run the bases particularly well. They strike out too much over indexed on home runs. Now they had a Garrett Cole injury and that set him back. Clearly if Max Freed and Garrett Cole are going into a series, they can beat anybody. But when you watch the Dodgers and the Yankees play last year when Cole wasn't pitching, Yankees look like an American League Central team. They look like a mid payroll team. They don't spend their money wisely enough. The Dodgmans go. Max Munzee was let go. He was awful with the A's. The Dodgers found something and it works. So it's easy. It's funny, Yankee fans loved it when they would dominate the Hot Stove League, when they would just. Nobody else could afford CC Sabathia. Remember, initially cece was like, I don't know if I want to go pitch there. And they're just like, all right, we're going to overpay or pay above the market. Right? Like, and now Cece is a, is a great all time Yankee and he loved being a Yankee. But it's not Just about that. They do so many things well. I mean, they had a major bullpen issue this year. Major. Typical Dodgers, they figure it out once they get to September and October. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. 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All right, Colin, let's start with Thursday night football. Bengals, Steelers, they're calling it the Icy Hot Bowl. Yes, that's a thing. Two quarterbacks over 40 years old, couple fossils back there in the pocket who can't move around. We heard Mike Tomlin take a couple jabs at the trade of Flacco. Well, now Joe Flacco has responded saying, Mike Tomlin, he's just doing gamesmanship out there.
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Yeah, I appreciate old guys. And you know what I like? I mean, Aaron Rodgers and Flacco have very different personalities. Both work, but Flacco loves life. You know, Flacco is just so appreciative and grateful for the opportunity to still play. And there is value when you can bring a guy in. Josh Dobbs had this that they're so smart. Flacco and Josh, you can bring him in. Here's two practices and they've got it figured out, which is really a skill in this league. There's a lot of guys that. That can't see the field. A lot of guys that takes ramping and ramping and ramping up. I root for Flacco and I. For the record, Joe Flacco has earned every. Every penny he's made in this league. You know what, man, he's been around. That's a lot of practices. That's a lot of getting banged on. And he's incredibly joyful guy. I just like Joe Flacco.
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I know a lot of people didn't watch Packers, Bengals. It was ugly early, right? 10 nothing at the half. Bengals had like 20 yards at one point in the first half. Packers had like 240. Colin adjustments at halftime. Flacco looked good. Said, I'm just going to get the ball to Jason Higgins. They covered the spread. They. They had a chance to get the ball back down. I think it was six late in the game or maybe eight, but I'm just. I like Flacco in the Bengals here on Thursday night to cover five and a half. It's not just Steelers hating. I think this game's a lot more interesting than people think it's going to be. All right, all right, let's move on. Colin to Bijon Robinson emerging is probably the best running back in the NFL. I think he surpassed McCaffrey, James Cook I mean, what a year he's having. Monday night he was incredible. He's on track to break the NFL record for yards from scrimmage. Colin, we got the. We got the numbers here. Obviously, Marshall Falk has had it. Had one of the great seasons ever. You see Chris Johnson, Christian McCaffrey. Bijan is on pace for 2795 yards, which top this list by over 200.
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I remember a couple years ago, nobody's paying running backs. Running backs are disappearing now. Most of your first round running backs. Backs really become stars. Saquon Barkley, Zeke Bijan Robinson, who didn't have a very good first year with. I think it was Arthur Smith, they just, they didn't use him a lot. I remember when he got drafted. I've said this on the air multiple times. I had a general manager tell me he reminded him of Ladanian Tomlinson. Not stylistically, but character, quality guy. He said Bijan is the safest player in this draft. He said nobody will pick him. Number one, he is the safest player in this draft. He goes catch it, block run, character, doesn't fumble. Great locker room guy. He is just a. This idea that running backs were going to dry up. Running backs have huge value. And one of the things we talk about all the time in this league, a real skill is having a lead eating the clock up and not giving it back to a Mahomes or a Baker Mayfield or. Right. So how do you beat Tampa? Because Baker's great if he gets the last drive. The way to beat Tampa, because you'll stay close to Tampa if you're. Atlanta is giving Bijan Robinson the ball six times on that final drive and Baker sits on the bench and never gets the ball back. So when. When it's a big quarterback league, the value in the running back is great. Quarterbacks usually have a lead with eight minutes to seven minutes to go in a football game. That's why they're great quarterbacks. How do you close it out? You don't lean on the quarterback. You lean on the star running back. So Bijan, really good teams. I mean, Josh Allen's numbers got better, his efficiency got better. When he got James Cook. He didn't have to be Superman to close out games.
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Yeah, I will just say, Colin, you remember I bet on the Falcons against the Panthers. Where was B. John Robinson against the Carolina Panthers. He vanishes too much sometimes in these outdoor games. This week, Atlanta, they're at San Francisco outdoor game. I know San Fran's beat up. I mean, no Warner, they should attack the linebackers in coverage should be a big game for Bijan, but I need him to be a little more consistent. Colony. I don't want to say too boom or bust, but, you know, he has this 81 yard play and then it's just a lot of. He didn't do much otherwise. So I need consistency from Bijan. You like the Falcons this week or no?
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No, I don't. I like the Niners. Oh, I do. I think there's going to be some points in this. I think it's. I think it's a high scoring game. I. I like the Niners in a high scoring game to beat Atlanta. You get Atlanta, a dome team out west and then you get San Francisco, who now, no Warner, no Bosa Sala, can only play, you know, so much smoke and mirrors. I think this is going to be one of those games we talk about. It's wildly entertaining. Remember when Pittsburgh and the jets played early in the year, the 1 o' clock window, 34, 30. Yeah. Thriller. What a wild game. I think it's got a chance to be one of those like 30, 27 games back and forth. Seattle, Tampa, was that. But you have two great quarterbacks.
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My problem with Atlanta, remember the last time they beat the Vikings on Sunday Night Football? I was like 22, 6, dominant. Vik. Here we go. Falcons, we're good. Then next week they get smashed by Carolina. Like out of. Some of these young teams don't know how to handle success. Final story, Dallas Cowboys. Colin and you know this George Pickens guy, he's playing pretty damn good. Jerry Jones, very excited about how he's filled the void when CD Lamb went down. Here's Jerry talking about how George Pickett has been an inspiration to the Cowboys.
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I won't speak for the players, but he is a great teammate in my mind. And of course, when we got him, there was some issue with. Well, there might be something with the way he. His personality. I can't tell you how proud I am personally, but for George, because he is absolutely as exciting as he's been on the field for us. He's been that kind of teammate and he's inspirational.
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Inspirational.
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He's been great. He was a little bit of a, I would say highly emotional young player in Pittsburgh. Little bit of drama. He's been a great Cowboy. You got to give credit third round pick for this guy. I thought he was a one and doner because of, you know. But he's had emotional restraint. He's gotten better. It feels like every couple of weeks. Dak clearly likes him. Now the question is when CD Lam comes back, he's not going to get all the attention. He's not going to get all the glow because CD is a better CD creates separation that Pickens doesn't. Pickens just has a big catching radius. So when CD comes back and George Pickens doesn't get the looks, that's we'll see the maturity and how he handles it. Because Ceedee is a true classic dominant top six receiver in the league. You got to target him 12 times a game. You have to.
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I will add that that's all accurate. Colin. Remember, in a contract year at Fox, you pull me aside, you're like J. Mac, tighten it up. No more idiotic behavior, no more hot takes. Settle down. This is a contract year for Pickens. He's out there trying to get a huge money offer to be a number one somewhere. He's going to fall in line and yes, be inspirational.
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J. Maclean News. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. So Joel Klatt, a lot of college football talk for 10, 15 minutes, top of next hour. I saw this story. They were talking about in this story about how James Franklin had a $45 million buyout at Penn State and and then I saw another story where Penn State is reportedly going to pursue Notre Dame's Marcus Freeman. Freeman's a great coach. That's the smart move. Kurt Signetti, I don't know. Freeman feels like he got 20 years. But here's what's funny about it. Notre Dame just spend the money, double Marcus Freeman's contract. Because if I was Penn State, I would pay $15 million a year to get Marcus Freeman. Penn State football last year made 240 million. Is the coach worth $15 million? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Notre Dame step up and pay it. I remember when the nil few years ago, nil transfer portal. It's going to ruin the sport. And I said if you want to compete, you'll have to spend money. All you schools have money. Penn State right now is doing a 700 million dollar Beaver Stadium upgrade. They paid 45 million dollars to get rid of James Franklin and they would pay a hundred million dollars to get Marcus Freeman. It's just like in life, folks. Wall Street, Silicon Valley and the oligarchs. They'll spend $4 trillion on AI development over the next decade. But yet our healthcare system often doesn't take care of the very poorest, sickest and weakest countries. Universities, institutions, governments always have the money they Always have the money. I grew up in Seattle. Seattle is a top 10 GDP city in the country. Starbucks, big money. Microsoft, the Huskies football program, nil average, average. Not as good as Texas Tech, which I'm not even sure that area has a Panera Bread. Honestly. Seattle has decided. We're, we're a, we're a NFL city and a Mariner city. And we, we like soccer and Husky football. They're, they're, they're, it's, it's, they're given some money. Oregon gives a lot more. In little tiny Eugene, Phil Knight's totally committed. So when I see this story about Marcus Freeman in Penn State, it's a real story by real reporters. And if I'm Notre Dame today, I call Marcus Freeman's agent. I don't talk to Marcus. Marcus is preparing for usc. I just pay whatever I gotta pay. If I have to rip his contract up and give him a new contract. That dude's got the look, the vibe, the recruiting, the touch, the feel, the toughness. That is what a college football coach is. And, and Penn State should go after him. I mean, Penn State took Ohio State's best coordinator. I'd go after Marcus Freeman, too. You don't have to pay Signetti at Indiana. What? You're going to have to pay Marcus Freeman. So by all means, Penn State go after him. Notre Dame, don't let him go. I, you know, listen, Los Angeles, USC and UCLA are both in Los Angeles. They both have billionaires all over their alumni. One of them, usc, is committed to football. Ucla, you could argue. I think I read a story. Ucla, USC had the most. Maybe it was USC had the most people worth 30 million plus net worth in the country. And a lot of them, they like football. So the James Franklin firing, I wouldn't have done it yet, because if the interim guy wins five games and a cruddy bowl game and all of a sudden the players revolt. If you don't hire the interim guy, I always worry about the substitute teacher. Everybody loves a rule. Here was Bruce Feldman earlier this week on the Franklin firing. Coming off the loss at home to Oregon, you had a, just an, an.
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Northwestern program that's not that good either.
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It didn't matter what it costs. Penn State had the money and Notre Dame has the money and CUCLA has a 9.7 billion dollar billion dollar endowment. If you want to win in football, call Nick Saban. Want to come out? Warm weather? Yeah, we'll pay for it. Everybody's got the money and we can solve a lot of healthcare issues. We got the money. Super bowl bubbles around the corner. Sean McDermott acknowledging on the bye week we may need to tear it up and start over. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Weighted vests are everywhere right now, and it's not just a fad. The science is clear. Carrying extra weight boosts calorie burn, ramps up natural human growth hormone and testosterone in the body, and builds real world strength. Not all vests though are built the same and low quality gear is getting guys hurt. That's why I'm all for Wolf Tacticals True Fit Weighted Vest go to wolftactical USA.com take your training and physique to the next level. The code is HERD15 for 15% off your order. That's H E R D15 at checkout. Only at Wolftactical USA.com are you trading S&P 500 or NASDAQ 100 ETFs. Instead, you can trade futures from CME Group on the equity indices you already know and love. Take advantage of the benefits to futures such as controlling larger portions with less capital thanks to lower margin requirements. You typically only need to put down 5 to 10% of the notional value to get started trading. In addition, take advantage of market moving events as they happen with the ability to trade both night and day. Futures offer deep 24 hour liquidity while the ETF market slows down overnight. Find the appropriate contract for your budget. Choose from the larger E, Mini or smaller micro sized contracts to tailor your position. Explore S&P 500 and NASDAQ 100 futures@cmegroup.com EquityFutures Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service. You know that feeling when you come home late from work and the puppy dog eyes just pierce right through your soul? Or when you're packing for a road trip, you put the suitcase out and your dog, your cat, refuses to leave the suitcase? Yeah, we've all been there, right? Pet parent guilt is real. And you know what? It's completely normal. That's exactly why Hill's Pet Nutrition exists. They understand that being a Pet parent means being human. With all of our imperfections and daily juggling acts, Hill Science led Nutrition helps you give more love than humanly possible. Whether it's those long work days or trying to balance attention between, you know, multiple pets, Hill's pet Nutrition gets it. They have created science based nutrition support your pet's lifelong health. You can feel confident even when life gets hectic. And it does for all of us because, hey, you're only human. There's Hills Science does more. If you're ready to let go of the guilt, find the right food@health hillspet.com iheart hillspet.com iheart I'm going to assume that everybody messages their friends. And I'm also going to assume that people run into issues when messaging, especially during group chats. It's really important any of my digital messaging is clear. No mistakes. It's also important when I send messages, they send quickly and I get responses quickly. WhatsApp can help with all of that. First, you can message privately with everybody in a group, even if you're using totally different phones, sent a message too fast and instantly regretted it. No problem. Just edit it. And when the chat goes a little too intense, you can switch to a group video call and actually talk it out. Photos and videos come through clear and messages get delivered without gaps or delays. Plus, WhatsApp has many great features like polls and pinned messages and even event invites with RSVP is cool, so planning stuff doesn't turn into a mess. It just makes a lot of sense. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with.
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Apparently brooms are moving at Costco. A lot of brooms being purchased in the Pacific Northwest. Target Costco. We're running out of brooms. Okay, so the other thing I was talking about, the Dodgers and fans. Oh, they got all this money. Nobody's disputing that money matters. Nobody. You know, you'd rather have a lot of money than no money, right? Doesn't mean there's a lot of happiness over a certain threshold. But you can waste a lot of money, too. Here's another thing about the Dodgers. They stole Mookie Betts from the Red Sox. Mookie Betts was available. He was expensive, but before Ohtani. I mean, there's an argument. Mookie is the most complete player in baseball when you watch him play shortstop. But you would never know he could also play outfield. He didn't have a very good year Until September, and then he caught fire. But Mookie Betts was available. He was available to a lot of people. And the Dodgers essentially gave the Red Sox picks or players, and none of the players did much. So the minor league guys didn't do anything. You can keep. Say again, Max Muncie. A's released him. A's were like, yeah, it's. It's not gonna. It's no good. He can't play. He was hitting like, less than.200. He goes to the Dodgers, and here's Max Muncie, who's just. I mean, he's been hitting bombs for years in Los Angeles. And Te. Oscar Hernandez was available to the market, and then when he got to La, Teoscar's like, yeah, I'm going to play for less. So Tommy Edmond, St. Louis had him, didn't want to pay him. He was a.265 hitter. He's a good defensive player. Dodgers, NLCS, MVP. So when you're watching this thing, man, they. They are really. Andrew Friedman was the GM in Tampa years and years ago when Tampa got to a World Series and Tampa was really good. And you're like, how? They have no money. How did Andrew Friedman build up those Tampa teams? He didn't have the Dodgers payroll. He won in a division with the Yankees and the Red Sox. In Toronto, you know, big money. Boston, Toronto, which I think is probably the richest city in Canada. Yankees, all that money. Andrew Friedman was making the playoffs. So you took his brain power, you put him with a big bankroll, and they just don't miss a lot. They could have had Manny Machado. They passed on him. They could have paid for him. Zach Grinke, years and years ago, they're like, no, no, no. I think he went to Arizona. They've had opportunities to buy other players. They buy the right dudes. Freddie Freeman got the right dude. Great. In the locker room, Mookie Betts, Shohei Ohtani. And again, Ohtani is not hit the last two postseasons. They're not winning because of Ohtani. He has been a monster in the regular season. He can't hit right now. He is just lost. Okay, So I do this about every three or four weeks, and it's difficult. I think there's one great team in the NFL, and then I think there's another team that's really, really good. But it's time for my super bowl bubble. And, like, a couple of these teams right now have got to get better at things, but I always put about six or seven teams, and I do Think Philadelphia will right the ship at least with a running game. And I do think Bo Nicks as the season progresses will get more consistent. But right now, my super bowl bubble. The teams I think could end up in a Super Bowl, I don't know if they can win it. I think they can end up there. Kansas City, Tampa, Philadelphia, Detroit, Seattle, Green Bay and Denver. I'm not saying Bo Nix is going to hoist a trophy. I think those teams either have the coach, the roster, the defensive front, the O line and then I would put the Colts, the Rams, San Francisco and the Bills. Now in three to four weeks when Hampton's back and Joe Alter back for the Chargers, that's not their reality. Now. Right now Chargers are missing both tackles and I have a third string running back. The Rams would maybe be in it, but they lost Puka Nakua and they are very reliant on Puka Nukua in big downs. So San Francisco, I think they're going to get healthier offensively. They get Piersol back and IU back and Kittle, I think San Francisco, I don't know if they can hoist a trophy, but Brock Purdy's coming back, so I'm going to put them on the edges. I didn't put Pittsburgh yet. Listen, Pittsburgh's beating bad quarterbacks, the one really good team they played, they got routed, they got routed by Seattle at home. So Pittsburgh needs to win a couple more games. But in terms of Kansas City, I don't know what everybody else is watching. I mean the eye test. They are fast defensively and they have the best head coach, quarterback, defensive coordinator, combo in the sport. Here's Matt Hasselbeck earlier this week on the Chiefs. If you're starting quarterbacks, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game ever.
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Play caller, designer in our era and Andy Reid. Like, literally how are you going to.
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Room and as a defense.
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Like you got Mahomes over here running.
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Like speed, option, like, like he's Vince Young or something. Like you got to defend it all. You can tell that this is a team.
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The sky's not falling.
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You know, they're like, hey, we're going to, we're going to go one and O this week. You know, probably like a game out. We're good. I will say Tampa is an interesting team because they're 5 and 1 but needed a last second field goal to beat the Jets. And four of their five wins have come with a, you know, within a field goal or less. Now they're banged up so they're going to get Chris Godwin back, Mike Evans back, Bucky Irving back. So I think you're not seeing the best of Tampa's personnel and I still have them in the bubble. I think there's tremendous value on winning close games and also something to remember. Teams ebb and flow. The Chargers look great. Then they fell apart physically. Now they're not that good. I didn't put them in my top 10. Joe Alt returns at left tackle, Hampton returns. I think they're a top 10 team. San Francisco, I listen, I, I, I have Seattle in the super bowl bubble. That has been now you say what about New England? I like what New England's doing, but they got, they got whacked by Pittsburgh and I don't have Pittsburgh here. So I think New England's one of those teams. I need, I need more, I need more from New England, I need more from Pittsburgh. But if you're wondering where New England is, I think Patriot fans know this is a really cool spot to be in, but let's, let's put about four or five more wins down. You know, Drake may still young, developing and with Pittsburgh again, they got absolutely routed special teams mistakes at home against Seattle. So I know a lot of people are pointing to Denver and Bo Nix. I don't know, I think Bo Nix may not be a great deep ball thrower, but the Denver Broncos lead the NFL. They protect their quarterback better than anybody and get after years better than anybody. That is, that's something that wins in January, that wins in cold weather, great O line play, great pass rush, wins in January. I never bought into the Dolphins. When they get off of these hot starts and throw it over the top, that's not January football. So there's two lead, there's two seasons pre Thanksgiving and post Thanksgiving and the football changes. Remember we talked about this a couple weeks ago. Why, why were there 15 quarterbacks with 100 plus passer rating? And I said, look at the weather. It was 80 degrees in Buffalo. Chicago had good weather. Chicago, Buffalo, Baltimore. Weather's getting real chilly now. So things are going to change. J Mac, anybody in or out of the super bowl bubble? New England, Pittsburgh didn't make it for me. I had your Niners.
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So you know what I like to do instantly? Look at the gambling odds you can see on the screen there, Buffalo, who you have on the outside, has the same odds to win the super bowl as Kansas City. I think you're a little low on Buffalo. I know they just lost and didn't look great to Atlanta. But the other team is. You mentioned Pittsburgh and I was kind of scoffing like, oh come on, they're junk. Pittsburgh and Seattle have the same super bowl odds, Colin, which I thought was surprising. I don't think Pittsburgh's great. The one team you don't have in the top 12 are the Washington Commanders, who at plus 2500 have the same odds as San Francisco. Washington gets Terry McClure back. Literally. He's practicing right now with it with the team.
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Date: October 15, 2025
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Episode Theme: Prime-Time Excellence – Dodgers Dominance, Caleb Williams’ Growing Pains, and Sorting the NFL Super Bowl Contenders
This episode of The Herd is a tour through the current top stories in American sports, led by Colin Cowherd’s signature mix of insightful analysis, candid opinions, and a few pointed critiques. Colin opens with passionate praise for the Los Angeles Dodgers’ operational excellence, addresses Caleb Williams’ developmental hurdles in Chicago, and delivers a tiered breakdown of NFL teams residing on the ever-shifting “Super Bowl Bubble.” Along the way, Colin attributes success (or lack thereof) to organizational management, accountability in sports commentary, and the importance of resourcefulness over simply having resources.
(Starts ~00:47)
“It’s like the Chiefs dynasty. It’s like the Brady-Belichick dynasty, it’s like the Warriors dynasty. It is hard to stay self-motivated... And the Dodgers treat the regular season like a lot of us treated college — you do the bare minimum, and then on the finals it’s an all-nighter.”
(Colin, 04:45)
“The strength is starting pitching… all four of those guys are in a really good headspace. Physically, they're sound... and they're prepared for this.”
(Starts ~09:16)
“If an announcer is willing to say unpopular things, I’m here for it. I appreciate that. I don’t need you to blow smoke. I’m not looking for rainbows and pots of gold. Just give me honesty, right? Like I’m a grown up.”
(Colin, 12:52)
(Starts ~14:35)
“If I was Penn State, I’d pay $15 million a year to get Marcus Freeman. Penn State football last year made $240 million. Is the coach worth $15 million? Yeah, absolutely. Notre Dame, step up and pay it.”
(Colin, 34:40)
(Starts ~17:30 and again ~41:18)
“Yankees have a ton of money. They’re totally uneven. They don’t run the bases particularly well... The Dodgers... figure it out once they get to September and October.”
(Colin, 23:55)
(Starts ~44:50)
“There are two seasons: pre-Thanksgiving and post-Thanksgiving. The football changes... so things are going to change.”
(Colin, 48:29)
(Starts ~25:04)
On the Dodgers’ Deep Roster:
“Their menu is so deep, doesn’t matter if the milkshake machine in back is broken. They got somebody else stepping up.”
(Colin, 02:41)
On Honest Broadcasting:
“Just give me honesty, right? Like I’m a grownup. I remember again when I was a kid... I liked Howard Cosell, I liked the local sportscasters that I thought were telling me the truth.”
(Colin, 12:52)
On College Football Money:
“All you schools have money. Penn State right now is doing a $700 million Beaver Stadium upgrade... If you want to win, you’ll have to spend money.”
(Colin, 34:19)
On January Football:
“There are two lead seasons — pre-Thanksgiving and post-Thanksgiving — and the football changes.”
(Colin, 48:29)
Colin’s tone is confident, candid, and at times slightly irreverent, balancing sharp critiques with moments of elemental sports nostalgia. J. Mac complements with energetic analysis, quick stats, and betting angles.
End of Hour 1 Summary