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Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Friday. Let's cap the week with a strong one one hour from now. We have had a very, very strong year in the blazing five 58% guys in the desert. They'll be watching in one hour. J It's inevitable when a young quarterback flourishes. Everybody's like, well, is it the coach or is it the quarterback? We always got to give everybody credit. We got to figure out who gets the credit. So that's all I'm hearing this morning. Well, is it Mike Frable or is it Drake May? And this is an easy one, folks. All you have to do is look at the Washington Commanders. Why are they so bad this year? Because Jaden Daniels got hurt? Did Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury forget how to coach? No. Jaden Daniels is hurt. The team stinks in College Football at 70, 30, coach matters more than quarterback. He's head coach, GM and therapist in the NFL. Flip it. Look at Mike Tomlin when he had prime Big Ben, Super Bowls, old Big Ben, playoffs, but couldn't be good teams now. Yikes. So the Colt, Shane Steichen, was he a bum last year? No, they upgraded at quarterback to Daniel Jones. Andy Reid's entire career was eyes. Very good coach. Now he's a legend. Why he gets smarter Mahomes. If you're looking at last night, 80% of the NFL winning games comes down to your quarterback making five, six, seven throws or decisions. High level execution that wins games. Mike Frable's not winning that game last night with Justin Fields as his quarterback because it was a reasonably close game. But Drake May made six or seven decisions in throws that are incredibly high level. That kid is so good on first down, it's amazing. He had a jump pass, couple sideline throws. That's the difference. I mean, Mike Vrabel certainly elevates him. Mike Vrabel made Ryan Tannehill a number one seed. Remember that in Tennessee? Who did Vrabel get beat by that year in the playoffs at home as a favorite? Zach Taylor. That's not who beat him. Joe Burrow beat him with a much worse roster. And VRA knows that. I mean, and Vrabel, like Belichick, understands that. A lot of times just give it to the coordinator and the quarterback. It's a little harder to do when Drake May's young, but I mean, Belichick, largely Tom Brady and Josh McDaniels ran the offense. They were on the phone constantly. So Josh McDaniel is probably the best offensive coordinator in the league last decade. I guarantee you he and Drake May are running most of the offense. And that, that's not a knock. I mean, but, but I mean, you watch the jets offense, it looks like a service academy. They run on third and eight. That's, that's like Jurassic. That's awful. But I watched that game last night. There's another one of his throws right there. He just made about six or seven big plays in a reasonably close game. There's another one, you know, back of the linebacker, in front of the safety. That's what the kid does. And you know, again, I, I am not saying that Reed doesn't deserve credit for Mahomes in college. Mark Few is Gonzaga basketball. Nick Saban was Bama football. They recruit, they develop, they're the therapists, they're the gm. They work the cap, they do the international stuff. They make every decision. That's not the way it works. Vrabel doesn't want to make every decision. He's trying to build a culture. You see this thing he does when he's every. He's been doing this for years. That's culture building. He is a player's coach and he wants. You can't do everything. You can't do that. Coach the offense, the defense, do the cap. That's what Belichick tried to do. Old Belichick tried to do that. He took over personnel. He was terrible at it. He was a great culture builder and a great defensive coach. So Vrabel's absolutely a huge part of this. But in the NFL, it's always felt like to me, it's 65, 35, 70, 30. You got to have the guy that can execute at a high level intellectually, physically, emotionally, and that is a potential mvp. Drake May. Drake, how's it feel to get those MVP chants and just have people recognize the way you're playing right now? Yeah, was maybe in for Trayvon tonight. I mean, scored three touchdowns. So, you know, I think it's, you know, our fans have, you know, been great with, you know, me since I got here. So they got drafted and I think just appreciate them for, you know, embracing me, you know, trying to embrace this city and, you know, give these fans and this team and, you know, just myself. Just leave it all out there and give me everything I got. And here's the other thing about Drake May. He's unbelievable. On first down, he completes 78% of his throws on first down last night he was 9 for 11. That is the highest completion percentage on first down since they've tracked it and that they're always ahead of the chains. What did Belichick say about Brady? When they asked Belichick about Brady, his greatest thing, he didn't say his arm or, you know, what he said. He didn't go backwards. No pre snap penalties, didn't take a lot of sacks. We always had second and five, second and four, second and six. I mean, Justin Fields, you. You don't know what you get by second down With Drake May, you're ahead of the chains. That opens up the playbook for Josh McDaniels. It opens up the playbook, the culture for Mike Vrabel. So, so much of what Drake May does is what Brady does now. Now he's a more athletic version of Brady and he's not right now, pre snap as good as Brady. But Brady was so good on first down. You were never playing behind the sticks. That's exactly what Drake May does. It's a gift. He's great at it. You know, I said they were going to double their win total from last year. My bad. They're going to triple it. Okay, so Kansas City's at Denver. They are a favorite, but they're at Denver. And I made a bold proclamation before the year. I said, the dynasty's over. I did not say Kansas City would fail to make the playoffs. I said, they'll make the playoffs and they're going to win another Super Bowl. Andy Reid and Mahomes may win another super bowl, but this going to the AFC Championship every year, Going to the super bowl every year. That's done. And, and, and they'll be good. There'll be a playoff team, but you're not going to get four more trips to the super bowl in five years. And if they lose to Denver, they're five and five. Okay. And four games behind the Broncos. So only one team's ever started 5 and 5 and won a Super Bowl. The reason I made this proclamation was Mahomes is really expensive. Chris Jones and Kelsey are really old. It gets harder. Andy Reid, 67. But mostly I said, Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton in division, you're not going to win this thing going away. You're going to have to get in as a wild card team. One of the great advantages Brady had very early, I think, in his career. Peyton Manning was in the AFC east and they moved into the AFC South. You know, they realigned the divisions. So Tom just got buys and Tom got home. Playoff game. Tom struggled to the very end when he had to go to Denver and play in the snow. But Tom was in Foxborough. Tom was at home. Tom was comfortable. Tom got an extra week of prep. He got the buy. Those days are over for Kansas City. You're not getting that number one seed anymore. Not with Peyton in the building. Say what you want about Bo Nix, not with Harbaugh and Herbert in the building. You're not getting that number one seed. And so I've said this before. So much of Saban's run was the incompetency of the rest of the SEC. So much of LeBron's dominance in the NBA was the incompetence of the NBA's Eastern Conference. It's very, very hard. Once Kirby Smart Texas get into the SEC and Nick Saban's like, get me out of here. Urban Meyer dominated the sec, then Nick Saban arrived, right? It's hard to be a dominant golfer skier team when you got an all timer breathing down your neck and so Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh, arguably the second and third best coach in the league and Andy may be the first. It, it's just a natural progression. Mahomes is getting older and he's a little more expensive. And then you can't, you can't miss on his many draft picks and every good GM misses on draft picks. You can't miss on them now because you don't have the ability to go buy players when your quarterback costs what Josh Allen does or Herbert does or Mahomes does, you can't. So I think the, I think the game is, it is not in my blazing five, I said, you know, if it was only minus three, I think I would take Kansas City. It's three and a half, so it's a stay away for me. And here's, here's Patrick on facing the rival Broncos. I think you understand this game is important. I think that that's, that's the biggest thing. I mean it's divisional game and they're always important. But with them having the lead and us needing to go out there and win, to have a chance to win the division, I think guys understand that if you lose this game it's going to be with them having the tiebreaker and the, would that be like four games ahead of us? It'd be tough to go back and get that one. But all you can do is just handle this week and that's all you can really worry about. And we still play a lot of great football teams but like I said, I feel like if we play our best, we can beat anybody. So I said, when I said the dynasty's over. The reason I said that also is look at last year, they were 11 and oh in one possession games. That was impressive. But what wasn't they were in 111 possession games. Oh, that's because Jim Harbaugh arrived in the division and Sean Payton was in year two and, and had his quarterback in division. So I mean the Raiders are non competitive, they're a mess. But I, I, I said before, I'm not sure there's ever been a division in football that has had a J, a Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reed and a Sean Payton. That, that's as good as coaching gets. I mean the Rams, you think yeah, they should win their division every year. Well, Kyle Shanahan's in division and now Mike McDonald's in division. So it matters. It really does. I, I think it's going to be a great game. I like Kansas City, but I don't love them for the obvious reasons. Denver at home and Sean Payton in spots like this is really good. Really good. So J. Mac Blazing five one hour from now, the best game of the year probably, and sometimes it doesn't work out that way. But Seattle and LA to take on the Rams, that is one of my Blazing five picks. I like Seattle in that game. I got to tell you. There's what's fascinating about that game is is is there an argument that Mike McDonald is the defensive version of Sean McVeigh? I mean, that he's literally a culture changer? Six minutes in the building. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be a part of it. Pay attention. Just go to YouTube and search Fox Sports Radio. Hit that subscribe button and smash that notification bell and catch all all the videos from your favorite shows. Two pros and a cup of Joe, Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, Doug Gottlieb, Kavino and Rich the Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington, the Jason Smith show with Mike Harmon and the Ben Ma Show. Fox sports radio on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Breaking News not everything's terrible. We repeat, not everything is terrible. 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So remember that Washington coaching tree when they had LaFleur, McVay, Shanahan, Mike McDonald. Well, Mike McDonald, he. He did the Harbaugh tree. He was with the Ravens and John Harbaugh and then Jim Harbaugh needed a defensive coordinator, called his brother and he went to Michigan and he crushed in both. So and it's really McVeigh minute he walks in the door, he's got a presence. That's what I've said about Mike Kafka with the Giants. I hear he didn't have much of a presence. This guy walks into a room, big chest, handsome, fit, smart, intense, looks like an athlete. Players buy into him. And that. And that's the thing is McVeigh instantly the Rams offense with all the jet sweeps, it just looked different. Seattle the minute Mike McDonald walk in, three things became very clear. Number one, they were going to be a physical team running the football. Number two, hyper aggressive. It's why he loves Sam Darnold as a quarterback. Sam loves to let it fly down the field. It's why he just made the GM just made a Rashid Sahid deal from New Orleans. More deep balls. Jsn more deep balls. So in the third thing it's very obvious is special teams means a lot. Seattle special teams are excellent. So Pete and I always say this Pete Carroll, old school, left Seattle and he was a defensive guy. Literally, a month in, the defense was better with a new school guy, defensive head coach. So everybody wants the next McVeigh. They found it just on the defensive side. And you can see poor coaching jets and really smart coaching. McVeigh takes over the Rams. McDonald takes over Seattle. You can see it instantly, mostly by identity. What are you right now? New England, unbelievable on first down. Tough, better defense don't make a lot of mistakes. That's that Seattle. Greg Cosell talked about it yesterday. Their hyper, aggressive defense, how it stacks up with the Rams. You're dealing with the two defenses that stunt the most of any team in the league. They don't necessarily blitz a high percentage, but they're very aggressive with their multiple stunt concepts. And they've got a lot of defensive linemen up front who are very good at that, whether they're penetrators, whether they're loopers, and that's how they generate pressure and they're very aggressive. And I think an overlooked player is the rookie for Seattle, Nick Imanwari, who's being used by Mike McDonald kind of the way he used Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore. Yeah, it's back end of the front. Seattle is the real deal. They've been a bit less efficient, a little more reckless because they take a lot of shots down the field. You know, Puka doesn't go down the field deep that often. JSN does. So Seattle takes a few more shots down the field and they're. They. They're going to have a few more turnovers. But you can see it, man. You can see an identity. Minute he walked into Kirkland and Seahawk camp. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news. All right, Colin, let's get started with the Eagles in the A.J. brown saga. I think we're calling it a saga now. Well, we're advancing the story because Saquon Barkley has chimed in. He is backing his teammate, the embattled wide receiver. You're never going to play a perfect game. And we know that the way we played on Monday, more times than not, we play that game against a lot of teams. We're going to lose, but that's why you have to have complimentary football. And the defense came out played big for us, but we know we got improved, and that's the mindset. So whether it's we score 10 or whether we score 40, you know, AJ's not saying anything wrong. We always looking for room to Improve standalone game. Big standalone game. You better feed the ball to A.J. brown. Oh, stop it, Feet. What do you mean, feed him? Stick to your game plan. If he's going to be a petulant little child, like, let him. As long as you're winning, I don't want to hear the junk. Right. Wouldn't you agree with that? I agree. It was a joke. I. I think the worst thing you can do is appease and force the ball like they did at the end of the game against Green Bay. Do your thing. Players unhappy. Who says everybody in the locker room is going to love the coach? It's not the way to. There's always somebody unhappy in pro sport. And you look at the Detroit secondary. I know Branch is pretty good on the back end, but their corners are not great. This could be a nice A.J. brown game. It doesn't look like weather's going to be a factor in. In Philly. Colin, for this one. I like the Eagles here. Favorite by two and a half. Are you going Lions? No, I think Philly's the play. I. I think Green Bay's defense is pretty good, and I think it's hard to play Lambeau. You know that that was a tough night for both offenses. I think they'll get unleashed here. And also there are some key injuries to Detroit. Panay Sewell, Sam laporta. Did they practice? Will they play? So the offense may not have the same zip. And it's also cold weather. You look at the weather when it gets under 50 degrees, when it gets cold. Jared Goff, he's okay as a road quarterback. He's not a very good cold quarterback. Yeah. All right, let's move to the Buffalo Bills. They had a, you know, let's just say not a great effort against the Miami Dolphins. It happens sometimes, Colin. You know, the great teams don't show up. They scored just 13 points and did not have 100 yards rushing. So that prompted the media to ask Sean McDermott whether Buffalo is still finding its offensive identity. Silly question. Here's what he had to say. I think we're finding ourselves a little bit. Again, the mention of different wide receivers in there and this and that, and some guys out due to injuries, some not. And it's. It's. And that's. That's. It's not what you want, but it's okay. We just. We got to continue to find our best combinations, if that makes sense, Mike. Right. With who gives us the best chance to win and, you know, where can we find the rhythm in the passing game? Yeah, good luck. I like Buffalo. I think if there was one game that could start a bit of an inferno this weekend, it would be Tampa going up to Buffalo and winning. Well, our Monday lead would be Sean McDermott. Can he coach Buffalo? That's the one game on the board. I mean, if Detroit beat Philly, it's not the end of the world. If the Seahawks upset the Rams, if Kansas City beat Denver, I mean, most of this stuff. But Buffalo comes home. Now they went from 100 degrees in the humidity, now they're back their kind of weather and they play a warm weather team up north advantage, Buffalo. But if they lost, that's your lead on Monday at Buffalo. Can't get right on track. If the Chiefs lose, that might be a bigger story. But that being said, Colin, I gotta ask you, like, this does feel like a must win. The weather looks like it's going to be very bad, which should give Buffalo an edge. Tampa's beat up. Can I ask you about Dalton Kincaid? You know, in Buffalo, they're starting to call him Dalton first aid because he's always hurt. The guy can't stay healthy. And when he's off the field, the offense, it's not as dynamic because they don't have that middle of the field. He's there. He's their best tight end. He can, he can, he can block, he can catch. I mean, he's there. Frankly, I think he's a better weapon than any receiver they have. I take him over Keon Coleman as a factor. He was a first round tight end for a reason. He came out of Utah. He was a good blocker right out of college, which most tight ends aren't. Yeah. So the Bills, this is kind of a tell here. They signed me, Cole Hardman and Gabe Davis to the practice squad. Okay. That usually means something's going on with the wide receiver room. Don't love the vibes in Buffalo, but I am on them in this one final story. Colin, you know, we, we have to talk about Caleb Williams every day now. He's your guy, your new man in Chicago. Caleb Williams in Chicago, 6 and 3. Things are absolutely rolling. Hey, how about this? Caleb's sack numbers, which are ghastly a year ago, have dropped from 38 through 10 games last season to just 14. Here's Caleb addressing those lower sacks. Huge. Partly. You know, the part of it is, is the guys I got up front, they've been, they've been awesome for me and for us. And so, you know, kudos to them and love those guys up front. And then the other half of it is, you know, I think, I think coaches, emphasis on me getting the ball out. And then, you know, when it's, you know, when it's time to go make a play, make the play plays and, you know, it's time to throw it away. Throw it away. And so I think just doing a better job with that overall this year. And I got to keep getting better with that and try and lower the sacks. By the way, first thing Sean Payton did in Denver, fix the O line for, you know, McVeigh first move in LA, get Andrew Whitworth left tackle. What's the first thing Ben Johnson did? He went to Ryan Poles and said, get me an elite center and Joe Tuney and Jonah Jackson. First thing offensive coaches, head coaches do when they take over place, fix the O line. That. That's where all of it starts. Joe Tuney, Drew Dahlman, Jonah Jackson. That is an elite trio. Sean Payton did the same thing. He took Denver's messi O line to like 11th and to seventh this year. I think they're one or two. So they got the right coach and he puts the priority on the right stuff. And we said before the year, I didn't care about wins. You got to cut the sacks by 50%. That was number one. And they've done it by 70%. You know, again, I think we touched on this this week. This, this idea. When you got the quarterback on the rookie deal, you can spend anywhere they chose to spend on the offensive line, which was great because Ben Johnson's DNA is running the football. And Colin, it's working out great. I don't. I. I kind of want the Vikings here, huh? Are you the Bears getting three? Caleb, listen, you know, Flores is going to dial up some pressure, and he kind of flustered Lamar Jackson. Lamar was not great last week. We saw what he did a couple weeks ago to Jared Goff. I think they had something like 17 quarterbacks. The problem with Minnesota right now is Brian Flores can do everything he wants. When you're three and out, when you don't extend drives, you keep giving teams like Baltimore better field position, better field. But after about eight, nine drives, you cash in, at least get field goals. Chicago should win the field position game because they'll move the ball enough to win that battle. So Caleb's going to start on average with better field position over his 12 drives than JJ McCarthy. How about this? If JJ McCarthy goes 2 and O against Caleb Williams this week, we have to put a cap on Caleb Williams stories next week. Never J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. Well, whenever it's college or pro. And this is why I've always defended Lincoln Riley. I always say, with a new coach, does he at least get his side of the ball right? USC's offense since Lincoln arrived, top two or three in the country. Aaron Glenn got hired by the jets as a defensive guy. Dude, Robert Sala's last three years in New York, top five defenses all three years Aaron Glenn has destroyed. Has nuked the jets defense. It's now terrible. Forget the fact he can't handle press conferences. Basic press conference. It was fighting with me. Forget the fact the offense looks like a service academy. I mean, it's just. It's embarrassing. Their defense. Opposing quarterbacks against the jets this year have 18 touchdowns and no picks. They have one takeaway all season. Second worst in the league is six. I mean, it's like the guy took over McDonald's and he can't even get the French fries right. I didn't ask for new menu items. I didn't ask for the milkshake machine to work at McDonald's. It never does. Just. Just keep the fries. Great. We didn't ask him to do a lot. Just keep the defense good. The jets defense has no identity. It's bad. They don't take the ball away. The pressure's inconsistent. I'm not going to beat up on him for the media stuff, which is embarrassing, or the offense. That's not his side of the ball. But you got to get the defense right. You got to know what you're doing defensively. And so. And you can say what you want about Robert Sala. And I admit I think Salah should get another head coaching job. But Sala's defenses were really good. Well, they traded Sauce Gardner and Quinn and Williams recently. So, I mean, it just. I'm not asking for new items on the menu here. Just keep the stuff. That was good. Good. That's all I'm asking. So when people say, well, Kyle, and you said this year one with Dan Campbell in Detroit. No, I didn't. No, I did not. I said year one when they were losing six one possession games about Dan Campbell, I said, I hate his press conferences, but, God, this team plays hard. They were crazy aggressive. Crazy aggressive going forward. On fourth down, he created an identity. The Lions were playing their butt off. They just had a terrible defense. That was pre Aiden Hutchinson. You got to show me something. He can't do it defensively, so. And then he's got, you know, here. Remember before the season when. And I'm, you know, I. I know Aaron Rodgers can be a little difficult. I'm not denying that. But there was a moment, there was a tell. Aaron Rodgers got on his private jet, flew all the way cross country because he still wanted to play football and he wanted to be a New York jet. And do you remember what happened? I'll read you the story. He goes, it was really strange. I thought, we're gonna have this long conversation. I flew across the country. Twenty seconds in, Aaron leans in the edge of his seat and says, so you want to play football? And I'm like, yeah, I'm interested. And he was like, yeah, we're going in a different direction to quarterback. He goes, I was shocked. Not shocked because I didn't think it was a possibility. Shocked because I just flew across the country. He could have told me over the phone. And when I heard that, and I text a few executives in the league, they were like, yeah, that's not great. You don't want to treat players like that. Word's going to get out. Just. I mean, listen, you got to treat employees well. Professional football players, young or old, they're employees. You want to treat them well if you're the manager, if you're the coach, if you're the CEO. So I thought that was weird. And he can't deal with the media, but I'm not going to beat him up for that. Or the offense, which are inept, but the defense is horrible. It's got no identity. I was texting with an executive last night. I'm like, what am I watching? So if we can get rid of quarterbacks, if we can one and done quarterbacks, can you not do it with a coach? I mean, I remember Freddy Kitchens. I was like, baker doesn't respect him. The body language is weird. Freddie Kitchens is not an NFL head coach. Remember that in Cleveland. I'm like, yeah, it doesn't work. That's not going to work. Mike McDaniel at least showed signs offensively, and Mike McDaniels on the hot seat. But Mike McDaniels in the first couple years with all that motion, we were like, man, that's a sophisticated offense. He may not make it, but you saw things with Mike McDaniel. You're like, okay, that. That does work. That is smart. So I'm not. I. I don't like people going cross country, getting a new job. But opposing quarterbacks this year have 18 touchdowns, no picks, and have a passer rating at 104. And I remember years ago, and I've defended Kyler Murray to the end. I have been a Kyler Murray guy to the point where I get made fun of on this show. But there are these little tells during job interviews. My wife used to be in hr and she'd say, you know, people would say things in job interviews, and you're like, I can't believe somebody said that. In the job interview, you do see glimpses on dates. They say men need eight seconds, women need eight minutes to decide, yes, I'll get intimate with that person. Right? Like, stuff happens very quickly. I always said, it's American Idol. I don't know music. I can listen for 15 seconds and go, that's a hack. That's a star. That's a good lounge singer. It's not that difficult. And I always said I've been a Kyler Murray fan. But remember that interview before he played in the NFL with Dan Patrick? Remember that? I'll play it. I'll play a little bit. Remember this interview? Are you going to the combine? I don't know. Dad, is he going to the combine? Dad had no comment there. Wait, are you going to spring training? I don't know. Wait, you don't know, dad, is he going to spring training? Another no comment here. Okay, so that's weird. You're the most verbal position in sports. Quarterback. It's just odd. Well, from that to here, there have been questions about his commitment. Does he like baseball more? Does he put the time in? Doesn't mean he's a bad human being, but it was a tell. It's like that. It. That's weird that. That. That's a quarterback. I'm all for quirky. Not at quarterback. So the Aaron Glenn, the fighting stuff, the Aaron Rodgers stuff is like, I don't know. I don't know, man. But more than anything, okay, let's just go look at the defense. I'm not going to blame him for media. I'm not going to blame him for arguing with New York Post reporters. I'm not going to crush him on the offense. Let's just go look at his defense. It's awful. There's nothing to it. That's why I defend the Lincoln Rileys. USC's offense been unbelievable. Number one in the nation, like three times in four or five years. I don't know if he can build a culture, but he knows offense. I mean, the Mike McDonald for the Seahawks first year took the 28th defense to 11th. I'm like, yeah, that guy knows Defense, I don't know if he's going to be a head coach. Now in year two, you're like, yeah, the defense, even better. So I gotta judge you on your expertise because I know building culture is hard. I know the other side of the ball is hard. I know the media can be obnoxious in big cities. That defense, there's nothing to it. Well, Colin, it's hard to be a good defense when your offense can't move the football. I mean, 121 passing yards this week. I think they had 54 last week. There's so much pressure on the defense. But I'll say this, listen. Last year with the Patriots, Jerod Mayo was a dumpster fire. We both saw that. It was obvious, however, they had a man. Oh, we want Vaughel. We're going all into Vaughel. We got him. I understood that. If you want to go one and Glenn, one and done with Glenn, that's fine, Colin, but I need a name. I need a Mike McCarthy. 12 and 5. 12 and 5. 12 and five. Three years in a row in Dallas. I'm aware. I like him. You want to pair him with Mendoza? Fine, I'll get on board with that. But I don't know that McCarthy is going to want to go to the Jets. Remember, he left a 12 win Cowboys team because the owner was nutty. So is he going to want to get back in? What are they out of the frying pan into the. You're. You're a Jets fan? Yeah, I am. Isn't it legitimate that at least get the defense right? Well, it's a little harder, you know, it was a little harder last night. Would you trade away Quinn and Williams at Sauce Garden? But it was bad before that. It was bad before. They have solid against the Browns. They've had one takeaway all season. Yeah, I know. That's the whole season. The second fewest in the league is six. Yeah, they did do a good job against Drake. Not Drake, babe. Bo Nix, your guy. They bottled him up. And everybody, everybody's done a good job against Bo Nicks. Everybody. We got some players, but it's a work in progress. You know, it's a rebuild. I'm rooting for Glenn, but I would agree. A prime example. Cleveland has Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel has not thrown a pick in a couple of games and it's had multiple touchdowns in the last couple games. We don't think Dylan Gabriel's great, but clearly Stefanski has taken Dylan Gabriel and every week Dylan Gabriel looks better. He's limited I'm not saying Dylan Gabriel's Drake May, but you can see Dylan Gabriel today and Dylan Gabriel five weeks ago, four weeks ago. He's getting better. You got to make stuff better on your side of the ball. 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Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Start your Saturday strong as Michigan clashes with Northwestern at a special venue, historic Wrigley Field. It all starts with big noon kickoff at 10am Eastern. Live from the heart of Chicago, compl Marlin Coward is rumored to make an appearance. Then it's Michigan, Northwestern, Big noon Saturday only on Fox. So we talked about this yesterday and now it came out in the athletic today. Multiple executives saying, I don't like any of these quarterbacks in college. Now, the problem is, as far as I can count, there are nine teams that probably need to draft a quarterback. There's five where it's not arguable. Draft a quarterback with your first pick. You mostly know. You know those five teams that should draft a quarterback? Cleveland, the jets, the Raiders, the Saints, the Steelers. Draft a quarterback, first pick. There's four others that need to strongly consider drafting a quarterback. Maybe not their first pick, but somewhere close. Arizona, Miami, Louisiana and Minnesota. That's nine. Well, I'm reading this story this morning. Executives in the NFL saying, I don't love any of the quarterbacks right now. The other one said, nobody's playing the position well enough to take over my franchise. Now I do believe Mendoza, Fernando Mendoza, last weekend separated himself from all the other quarterbacks. I like Dante Moore, but he's 20. Most believe he's going to come back. I like Lenora Sellers, the kid at South Carolina raw again. He's 20, 21 years old. Not playing that great. He's been dinged up. Those are the other two guys I like Dante Moore and Lenora Sellers. I think Mendoza separated himself six, five, big arm. They say he's a great leader. Really, really driven to be great. I think when he went to Oregon and lit up the Ducks, you know, I, I think he separated the winner in this, though, the San Francisco 49ers. So when Brock Pretty gets hurt, that's bad news, right? But it did give them an opportunity to show the world that Mac Jones can play. Max been excellent this year without having Ricky Parasol or Brandon Auk, he's been excellent. So think about this. The NERs are old and they're expensive and they're brittle. They need to get young. Nine teams need to draft a quarterback. And Mendoza is not only separating Dante Moore and Sellers may not come out. So then you're looking at maybe Ty Simpson at Bama. Like don't love arms. Okay? Not hyper athletic. It's Bama. Their quarterbacks, you know, live a different life collegiately than a real life in pro football. So I, I think the Niners have massive leverage. They could hold out for a second or a third round pick. And you think it's nutty. But look, go look at those nine teams. You got coaches that don't want to lose their job. Mac Jones may not be the prospect Mendoza is, but I would take him for the next two years over the other guys. And I mean like the jets, the Browns, the Raiders, the Saints, the Steelers, they don't have a choice. They got to take a quarterback with their first or second pick. And I think the Rams, Vikings, Dolphins and Arizona should as well. Here's Albert Brewer on the upcoming quarterback class and decisions that will be made. There are some teams that are already looking at the idea of like, you know, what we do in the off season. And could there be another? Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones, Geno Smith, type of story out there to go and seize upon. Especially like you said, with the draft class maybe not looking like what people had hoped it would be coming into the year. You know, Nussmeier gets, gets benched in the middle of the Alabama game. Drew Aller is hurt. Right. Like Lenora Sellers, maybe going back to school. Fernando Mendoza looks like he's going to go high up, but he may be the only first rounder at this point. You know, we have to let those things play out. But right now it does look like there's going to be more teams needing quarterbacks than are going to be available. Yeah, and that's big, big leverage for San Francisco. And I mean you look at the current draft order, Tennessee doesn't need one. Somebody's going to move to that number one spot. Tennessee is going to be able to get a smorgasborg of picks because somebody's moving up to the number one spot. Saints at two, need one. Jets at three, need one. Giants four don't. Browns do. Raiders do. Dolphins have a offensive line needs, pass rusher needs. I could see the Dolphins drafting a quarterback with their second or third pick getting a Lenora Sellers if he came out in the second round I could get that. Commanders don't need one. Bengals, but they should probably draft one fourth, fifth, sixth round Burrows Health of concern. Rams don't need one immediately. They have two first round picks. My take on the Rams is they're going to get a either a corner or, or an offensive tackle with their first pick. They'll take a Sellers, you know, a raw kid that's not ready, quite ready to play late in the first round. But there's some no doubt about it team. I I don't remember the last year where it looks like seven of the 10 teams in the top 10 could all take a quarterback and it and looks like I like Dante Moore a lot but he is 20 and that was the Sam Darnold issue when he came out. Sam was 21. He was too young. 20 is really young to go into the pros. So we, we both like Mendoza. Right. We like what we've seen but I don't know that he's a generational gotta trade up to get him kind of quarterback. We'll see during the process but I don't know that that's the case Colin. So I don't who's offering the Titans a boatload of picks to go up for Fernanda Mundua? I don't think anyone is because guess what, especially if you're The Jets. You could either take a quarterback here, take one later in the draft, and you could take 1 in 27 because you have three picks. I think. You know who I think the team is is Cleveland. Because if you look at Cleveland's defense, they've drafted. Andrew Barry is drafted very well. They've got good players. In fact, I was thinking this morning, if Mac Jones went to Cleveland and they still have the desean Watson pay, so they'd rather get a rookie quarterback. If Mac Jones went to Cleveland, I think Cleveland would be a nine. They'd be my double win total team next year. I think the roster. Go look at Cleveland's roster. Do their defense in the NFL at home is significantly better than any other defense in the league, period. So you think Mac Jones could turn the Browns from like, say, 4 and 132 to a 9 team? Absolutely. Come on. Five wins for Mac Jones? Absolutely. Oh, my gosh. Well, based on what we've seen this year, I. Maybe. But remember, he also stunk it up in Jacksonville. Was atrocious filling in at the end. Okay, again, again. Stefanski is a legitimate coach, Max, not a superstar. Cleveland's roster is really good. It's the Colts. I said, I've been on the Colts the last two years. I'm like, the roster is great. They're terrible at quarterback. Well, the Colts are going to win their division going away. I said, you what? I said with New England, I'm like Vrabel and Drake May. They just spent $300 million on players. They're going to win games. I'm telling you, I've hit it four years in a row. If Mac Jones went to Cleveland or if they got Mendoza, because I think Mendoza is a day one starter, I would take Cleveland as my double win total team next year. Go look at Cleveland. Go online. Look at the. Look at the Browns depth chart. No, but the problem is you got to face Lamar twice and Joe Burrow twice. Yeah. Will they be available? You're bullish on the Browns, huh? Do you like them this weekend against the Ravens? I actually do. Is that Blaze in five? Yeah. All right. My goodness. Blaze in five. I think we've had six or seven winning weeks. Little bit of a smoke show. We want that smoke. We want that smoke. Next. This is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snored loudly or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability, and concentration issues. It may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at. Don't sleep on osa.com this information is provided by Lilly A. Medicine company. Jingle bells, jingle bells jingle all the way. Yo, yo, yo, yo. 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