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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 1 - Drake Maye is an elite QB, Jaxson Dart needs to be smarter, the importance of Dak Prescott
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It's the Herd. We're in Chicago. A little snow. Last night's football season. Officially, wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. So I mean I'm, I watched the game last night. I think Jackson Dart has a chance to be a fine franchise quarterback for the New York Giants. I mean, Eli Manning wasn't even the best Manning son and he won two Super Bowls in New York. I think Jackson Dart's gonna have a fine career. Drake May, it's a different discussion. He looks like he's going to be one of these guys about every four years that enters the league and is an all timer size, arm, iq. I mean, Drake May, he just doesn't miss. Even when he was missing in the end zone, they were smart misses. Nobody else could get him. Didn't have his left tackle, didn't have a left guard, doesn't have a number one wide receiver. They don't run the ball particularly well. He had 30 points in the first half. It was a show off flex game for New England that's been really good all season. But they don't get many standalone games. And you know one of the rules when somebody's going to be great, they don't necessarily make it look easy but they make it look easier than it looks for 90% of the quarterbacks in the league. Joe Burrow on third down, he doesn't have a huge arm. It's not a giant guy. He's not super mobile. It just always puts the ball in the right place. When he's healthy, you know, like it's just great. Looks a lot easier. I watched Michael Jordan for years. He wasn't the best ball handler, he wasn't the strongest player. He didn't have the, the best long range. It's just like 17ft away. He just couldn't stop him. And the first year he was a little reckless, got hit too often. Beginning of this year he wasn't quite there yet, but I watched in the last four or five weeks. I was sitting there waiting for his bubble to burst a little bit. You know, sophomore slump. No, he's getting better every Week. This is one of those guys that checks all the boxes. Jackson Dart to me feels like he is still to some degree kind of winging it and doesn't quite see the field as well as I'd like him to see the field. Drake May, you're watching it in real time. Stoic, not a lot of bad throws, not getting hit. I mean you only, it's only. Listen, you get a franchise quarterback every year. You get an all timer about every four or five years. I think we found one. He is on pace to be the greatest quarterback on first down in the history of the game for a single season. Number two is Aaron Rodgers. Number three is Drew Brees. And here's the thing. New England's offensive roster is still at least one draft class away. They got to upgrade the O line. Upgrade. They need more dynamic players at tight end and wide receiver. Their run game again, below average. So, and I, and I, and I watching them last night, I know anybody. I lived, you know, in New England territory for a decade. So I watched every Patriot game during Brady Belichick, Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels. It's a very reminiscent team. There's a lot of do your job efficiency. Just like Belichick Vrabel. Special teams are great and Josh McDaniel is designing the offense and play calling. Kraft still the owner. Vrabel's a more player friendly version of Belichick and Drake May is a more mobile version of Brady. Tall guy, smart guy, doesn't take a lot of hits, doesn't make a lot of bad throws. Super accurate. It's very reminiscent. It's almost like you ever have a car you absolutely love and you eventually turn it in. You still love it, but it's getting a little old. You turn it in and you get a newer version, same model. That's what New England is. Vrabel is. Belichick really cares about special teams. He's just more player friendly and more current. And Drake May has a lot of Brady accurate moves. Well, doesn't take shots, not a lot of picks. He's just a little more modal. I'm getting the new model of the car and I just, I'm not sure if I love the mustache. Everything else, we say it all the time. When you get the quarterback and the coach right, it just doesn't take that long. There's so much mediocrity in every business. Here's the other thing. They're ahead of schedule. Drake May is two and a half years younger than Bo Nix. He's a Year younger than Caleb Williams. He's two years younger than Michael Penck. He's a year and a half younger than Jaden Daniels. He's younger than Cam Ward, and he's easily the best of that group, the most accurate of that group, the most poised of that group. Well, talent. Talent is just part of the boxes. You have to check so there. I mean, I watch him, something I look for all the time. Even his misses are smart, like those throws in the back of the end zone. He had a deep ball. Only one guy was going to catch it, a Patriot. He didn't get it. Nobody did. Even his misses are in the right spot. He was a little. He got. Took too many shots last year, beginning of this year, he wasn't quite there yet. But Ms. Kidd is, I mean, two and a half years younger than Bo Nix. He's younger than Cam Ward, and yes, it helps that he got Mike Frable. Every great quarterback, however, has had generally. You know, Marino had Don Shula, Brady had Belichick, Montana had Bill Walsh. Here is the coach and the quarterback. After he's realizing what he can be and what the impact that he makes on this offense and being a conductor, he's hard on himself. I think that he challenges himself as well as his coaches. And I mean, he means a great deal to this football team. Trying to be the face, try to be the conductor, he calls it the conductor of the offense, you know, trying to be the face of the offense. Trying to. You want the. Want the. Want the pressure. You want to, you know, the ball in my hands. And I've tried to, you know, show that all year and, and throughout my career. So that's what, you know, I kind of feel like. And know they feed off of me and feed off my energy and, you know, when adversity hits, you know, I got to respond. And then from there I just got to be, you know, the same guy, you know, same guy every day. You know, don't try to change. You know, Drake May's first year, he didn't get the right coach. By the second coach, they got the right guy. His comp was Justin Herbert, who had to go through a couple of coaches and get the, you know, what beat out of him until he got Jim Harbaugh. Then their offensive line fell apart and he's still getting beat up. But a lot of this dynamic is. I watched the last night and I saw what you saw. It was very reminiscent of the old Patriots. Great special teams, excellent coach, very good on details. Big, tall quarterback, stoic, doesn't make a lot of mistakes. And Josh McDaniels designing and calling the plays. So Dallas plays Detroit on Thursday. I like Dallas in that game and they just beat Philly and they just beat Kansas City. Dallas will make the Herd hierarchy today. I'll tell you in Advance. They are 6, 5 and 1. I thought they'd win four games this year, tops five. Look at their schedule. They can win out. If they do, Dak will make the playoffs and will have made the playoffs with Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy and Brian Schottenheimer. Translation, the head coach just doesn't mean that much with Dak Prescott. When he first came into the league, I thought his success was circumstantial. He was a B quarterback, BB plus but he had the best O line easily in football. The best running back arguably in football. Rookie contract. They stacked the roster. He is currently guiding the number one offense in the NFL and he will do it with a third different head coach and most of us. I like Jason Garrett more than other people, but a lot of you didn't like Jason Garrett. Almost nobody liked Brian Schottenheimer. And Mike McCarthy's a coin flip depending on which room he enter and he and he keeps being number one. I talked about conversations changing Dak Prescott's all time rank. This is year 10. He's got five or six left. This is the best he's ever played. He's Got at least 5 years left. Top 10 in completion percentage, touchdown, interception, radio and passer rating. It is time. It is time we start having a different conversation. Listen, Samuel L. Jackson started acting in his 70s. He didn't become a big time star until he was nine in the 90s. It's not like Samuel L. Jackson just became a really good actor in the 90s. He finally got an opportunity. Quentin Tarantino, right? Like Amazon didn't make money for 21 years. Like sometimes it takes longer. The bake is longer to see greatness. But you know, people have said that Philip Rivers will get hall of Fame votes and I agree. And one of the reasons I agree because Philip Rivers made the playoffs with Marty Schottenheimer and Norv Turner and Anthony Lynn and Frank Reich and Mike McCoy. He made the playoffs with five different coaches. Not everybody gets Belichick out of Michigan and I love Brady, but sometimes Mahomes gets Andy Reid. You got a meddling owner, you got a lot of noise. And Dak Prescott is proving once again and this is what the great ones do. They rise above the environment. They are not held down and people will Say, well, he hadn't had great success in the playoffs. Dan Marina had Don Shula as a head coach, sub.500 in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson has John Harbaugh as a coach. Lamar Jackson struggled in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers, I think he's one game above.500. He's considered an absolute top 10 legend of all time. You can't hold playoffs against a guy. I mean, Eli Manning's regular season numbers will not be as good as Dax, but he won super bowl, so absolutely, a Super bowl would help Dak. Nobody's disputing that, but I think Dax very unique. I always say, by Thanksgiving of your second year, I feel very confident. I can, I can call you what you are, but, you know, Baker took a while, Darnold took a while. Dak Prescott, we gotta. He's hot. He's got the number one offense again. He's got a coach not everybody loves again. The pass protection with this offensive line is not ideal. They're making big trades in the middle of a season. Dak. Thursday, Lions get a W, 7, 5 and 1 playoffs again. Here's Dak had been on other teams where you started off hot, and you're at this time of the year trying to, you know, figure out what you've got to do to get back on the horse and to have the momentum we do right now, the confidence. And not just that, the right guys in the locker room who understand where we are, who understand that this is the most important time of the year. And showing that in just their daily prep and throughout the week is fun. Yep, he's put his head down. Listen, Seinfeld almost got canceled. Similarly, Dak has been very good in syndication. Every time I'm like, all right, he's Kirk Cousins with a star in his helmet, little better mobility. This is the best I've ever seen him. It's not everybody is a child actor or De Niro. In Taxi Driver. It takes a lot of actors a long time and a lot of writers to have their first great novel. Dak has been a slow bake, but if he wins Thursday, you can roll your eyes all you want. You start doing a deep dive on all his career numbers. He's playing better than he ever has in year 10. What he did. He didn't have four or five years left. He's going to end up top five, six in a lot of stats. He just needs a couple of pelts in the postseason. J. Mac, listen, I can acknowledge he. It took me a while to figure him out, but he's Good. He's. And we both like Dallas against the Lions Thursday.
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So you. You have one hall of Fame vote. Okay, you can only vote for one of these two guys. Russell Wilson or Dak Prescott.
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Dak. Oh, come on. Well, dad. No, no, wait. Russell had great success. One coach, one team. How many Super Bowl?
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How many Super Bowls?
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Well, again you're asking me, I didn't say it was a landslide. But I also think one of the things you have to consider when it's close is intangibles, leadership. There's a lot of things to consider. It's not just, you know, I mean, like, Russ has dived at the end of his career. Dax getting better.
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Can we get a conference championship game appearance before we, before we carve up the bust for the hall of Fame? Just a conference title game. That's all I'm asking.
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I'm getting very excited.
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I can tell you're fired up.
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No, no. I just. I mean, he's just guys playing out of his mind. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from 7 to 10pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. That's right. You can now watch the Odd couple live on YouTube every day. All you got to do, search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube again. YouTube. Just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out on YouTube and subscribe.
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Trying to get a first down to get to a Super Bowl. Bro, what are you doing? And after the game, oh, boy. Here's what he said. Is there anything you would have done different on that one? No. Look like I understand the question, but like, this is like, this is football. Like, I'm gonna get hit if I'm in the pocket or outside the pocket. I played this way my whole entire life. It shouldn't be like any shocker to anybody if you've followed along with my career. Okay? So when anybody says, it's just part of the game for linebackers, not for quarterbacks, the second thing is I don't like this quote when he says, like, I've played my entire career this way. This is not Corner Canyon High School in Utah. Okay? That's not what we're doing here. Smart people, including football players, evolve. Lots of things are cool at 19 beer bongs. They're not at 22. When you're the face of the New York Giants, it's like when I hear NBA players like John Morant, hey, man, this is just my game. And they rely on super athleticism. And John Morant like, never changes. John Wall had this component, hey, man, this is my game. Well, in this episode of let's Keep It Real, exit stage right. You have to evolve the game. You have to be able to shoot threes. You've got to improve elements of your game. I don't want to hear, hey, it's just football. No quarterback should ever take a hit like that. And again, if you're stretching for a first down at the marker to get to a Super bowl or win one, it's a different conversation. This is a first quarter game and you're not making the playoffs. And the New York Giants have not had a quarterback start and finish the season. Every start since Eli Manning. And this kid has lived in the blue tent. So I, to me, it just lacks a self awareness. And there's there again, Kevin Durant and Tyrese Halliburton got to the NBA finals and they. There was a risk, right? They said, I'm going to play because you're playing for a trophy. Even Bill Belichick had a legendary rule with the Patriots. Do not stretch the ball out for a first down unless it's the super bowl and we're going to win it. Like, there are exceptions to everything. You can't take that hit. So it just, it's just, again, there's a gigantic gap in this league. KD and Tyrese Halliburton risking their health to hoist a trophy. I gotcha. I get it. That I understand. Pacers may never get back there. KD may never get back there. But that's not smart. And I, I, I don't want to hear, this is my game. No, it's not. I mean, LeBron James, until about six years ago was adding elements to his game every year. I mean, if you've been in the NBA for 12 years, Kevin Durant, at this point, your game is your game. It's not your first four years in the NBA and it's not for a quarterback in year one. This is just, I mean, I like his confidence. He's a bit of a playmaker. His accuracy is good enough. You know, he, he's, he's a shador. Sanders and he both like to air it out downfield. They take big swings. There's a lot I like about him, but I, well, you know, it's football. That's right. It's not football. That's the one where you can flop. Overseas football. 6, 6, 258 pound defensive ends who can bench press Rhode island should never get a clean shot at you, ever. Any circumstances for the record, Drake, May 1st year, spent some time in the blue tent. Stay out of it. Stay away from the blue tent. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady made art out of avoiding the big hit. And I know bike helmets aren't cool. Wear one, please. This is a, it's a top five hit in the league this year. What are we doing? J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
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This is the herd line news.
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I like her.
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He lives in the blue tent. He's paying rent. He spends so much time in the blue tent. All right, let's go to Lane Kiffin. Colin. I mean, this story is just continues to be bonkers and, and college football fans are going crazy. So. He was introduced as LSU's coach on Monday. Obviously, everybody knows he tried to still coach Ole Miss while taking the LSU job. He was denied that. But he did get one thing interesting. Ole Miss, if they win in the playoff. They will. LSU will pay. Lane Kiffin what he would have earned for Ole Miss. Just crazy. Colin. Here's Kiffin at his press conference.
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Leaving Ole Miss was extremely difficult, extremely difficult decision. And in that, we tried every. Every single thing possible to continue to coach the team through the playoffs and to continue to choose the players. In the end, that was their decision, and we totally respect that. But LSU is the best job in football when you take the history, tradition, passion, and the great players in the state of Louisiana. No one can argue that when you're in Tiger Stadium on Saturday night, there is nothing like it. I'll tell you right now, he's gonna win a national championship at lsu.
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Okay, I said it went hard.
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Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Ed Oars are on one. And Addy there, Lane.
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The guy's never won anything. Can we settle down with Lane Kiffin? I know he's a good coach and he knows offense hasn't won anything ever. Can. Can we relax a little bit on that? Win a national championship.
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Won a lot of rivalry games. He's won a lot of big game. If you're in the sec and winning 11 games, you've won a lot of big games.
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He's a good coach. That's undeniable. But when a national. Give me a timetable on that. What are you talking. Seven years, by the way.
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By the way, before Jim Harbaugh, who's on the show today, won a Natty at Michigan. I heard a lot of this. Well, he's never won anything. Are you denying Jim Harbaugh is one of the top five coaches of our lifetime?
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Wait, no, no, no, no. Harbaugh won, like, division titles. He won an NFC Championship game. That stuff matters. I mean, Kiffin's never done any of that. I mean, can we. Let's just get the basic stuff out of the way. But I'm curious, do you think that, like, this is going to happen sooner than later? Because I'll tell you right now, LSU is not going to the playoff next year.
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Oh, yeah? No chance.
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Have you looked at the schedule?
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Yeah.
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No shot.
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Well, look at the Rams schedule. Niners twice, Seahawks twice. Philadelphia Eagles. So what if you're great, you win games. LSU is going to be great next season.
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Well, hey, Texas was great this year, nine and three. They're probably not going to make the playoff. SEC is really hard, man. That's why this whole LSU stuff.
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You know what the SEC is next year? Five new coaches. I'd rather have LSU new coach with their players, the whole conference. Kirby smarts there, but, I mean, Kalyn DeBoer now is in year three, got five new coaches in the conference, so it's wide open. I mean, I put it down right now. I may buy season tickets just so I can get there for the playoff game. LSU and Lane Kiffin are making the playoff.
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Well, I'll tell you, Texas is definitely making it next year. Arch is staying, Sark is staying. They're a lock. It sounds like Mattier is not going anywhere. He's a good quarterback and if he was healthy the full season, maybe. Oklahoma is close to undefeated. So Oklahoma is better than them. Alabama, we'll see what they do at quarterback. I just. I don't see it instantly from LSU. I think in like three years, could they be 11 wins?
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Sure, three years. Transfer portal, though, they're going to step up and buy. I mean, they're going to land like six five star guys. They're going to land four or five star guys in the portal. And by the way, Brian Kelly, it's not like he's taking over Ole Miss. They've got NFL bodies everywhere.
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Last LSU trip to the playoff was Joe Burrow. That was ages ago, bro.
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For the record, they won it.
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They did. Yeah. Many teams have been to the playoffs since then. I'm just not buying this LSU hype. And I think I'm gonna double down. You and I are gonna go head to head for the next few years. I don't. I just don't think this is gonna work out. But I'm probably in the minority. Next up, let's go to the Kansas City Chiefs. Colin, they. Listen, they're down bad right now.
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Okay.
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Line dropping against the Texans. They're two games back of a lot of teams in the wild card chase. But Andy Reid, oh boy, he refuses to hear any of that.
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If you're coming to me on this, Matt, I'm telling you, we're going to go after you every game. And you know, that's how we roll.
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We're going to try to tickle your tonsils on every.
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Every play, every game and. But that's. That's the attitude that, that we're coming in with and then you let the chips fall where they may.
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I'll say this, if I had to win one game with an offense that's been a little uneven, I would not want to face the Texans who have won four straight. The defense is good, mostly healthy. C.J. stroud now is back in this, this schedule.
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Well, the schedule, Colin, I. There's a world where they sweep all these. The Raiders and Titans, they're winning those two. So that's two wins, right? Then you've got the rematch with the Broncos at home. You've got the Chargers at home. Why aren't they when they're going to be favored in those games at home? This Texans won. They are favored five and O's in play.
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Those are all close. Three of those games are going to be close. How have they been in close games this year?
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Well, a lot of them have been on the road. Unfortunately for the Chiefs, a lot of these are at home.
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Home.
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I don't. Trust me. I don't want to see the Chiefs in the playoffs. By the way, are they in the herd hierarchy? If they are, we're going to have to have. Have a chat off.
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Off air.
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I mean, this is unaccept. They're definitely not a top 10 team in the league right now. Final story. Colin, let's go to the Pro Bowl. I know you love the Pro Bowl. How about this shocker? The Detroit Lions have 11 players, 11 in the top 10 of Pro bowl votes at their respective positions. Jameer Gibbs obviously is up there. The Lions have a lot of good players. Colin, this is a team that's probably going to miss the playoffs.
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Yeah, I know. I mean, this is why this all goes back to some. Remember that they were in the hall of Fame game and they were atrocious. Remember in the preseason and I said this is bad. Right, right, right. And. And because they made coaching changes and then they stabilized. But I've always said the longer a season goes, the truth comes out. Like, the longer the season goes. Drake man, Mike Frable. It's not a mirage. They're really good. The longer the season goes. Well, Denver keeps winning games. Bo Nix and Sean Payton, they work together. The longer the season goes, Dak Prescott and the offense keeps getting better. They got a lot of good players. Pickens was a steal. The longer the season goes for the Lions, the worse they get on third down. The worst they get on fourth down. It's not a player issue. It's not.
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So what are we doing here? Is Dan Campbell the problem?
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No, just like Dan Campbell, like Nick Ceriani is a bit more coordinator dependent. McVeigh's not. Shanahan's not. That's why Belichick, by the way, kept Josh McDaniels forever. He wasn't an offensive scheme guy. So they got to get the OOC right. Right now it's. It's just not tight enough. And Green Bay looks like a Super bowl team.
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Chicago's the number one seat, so they're lucky in Detroit that Minnesota is kind of playing with their food and can't figure it out because Green Bay and Chicago are Green Bay. After that win over Detroit, there's an argument they're as good as anybody in the league right now.
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By the way, can we call Cowboys Lions an elimination game? Because the Cowboys cannot lose it if they want to get in the playoffs. There's just too many good teams in the nfc and I do believe for the Lions, with their schedule, this is an elimination game. This has to be every trick in the book. And by the way, no LaPorta, no Amon Ross, St. Brown.
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I know. More pressure on Goff.
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Good luck keeping up with that Dallas offense.
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Yep. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news so I read a headline today. Shadour Sanders deserves more time. I agree. The rest of the Browns operation does not. So about 25 years ago, that was over 30 years ago, I had a very smart news director tell me something. His name was Mike Cutler. He said if I if I fire an anchor or a reporter and they don't get hired, I made the right move. If I fire an anchor and a reporter and they get a job immediately and a good job, I probably made a mistake. Kevin Stefanski would get a job and a good job very quickly. Folks, we are just two years removed. If you think about firing Kevin Stefanski, two years removed. I don't even think it's officially two years from the Browns being 11 and 6 and their quarterbacks were Deshaun Watson, Joe Flacco, P.J. walker, Jeff Driscoll and DTR. And they were in the AFC and they went 11 and 6 when the AFC at that point, probably the best conference. So Cleveland firing Stefanski would be a very Cleveland thing, where they can't even identify in the building who's good. So I mean, it's just think about this. Think about what Stefanski and Andrew Barry have to overcome this morning. DeSean Watson is a bigger cap hit this year than Jordan Love or Patrick Mahomes. Now think about that. You wake up in the morning. That's why what Sean Payton's done in Denver with Russell Wilson's cap hit is remarkable. And the owner, Jimmy Haslam, and he deserves credit for acknowledging it. But he's the one that made that move, the Deshaun Watson move. So if Mike Tomlin exits Pittsburgh, many are suggesting he should, and there are discussions now it's possible one of the top candidates for the Steelers job, I would Think would have to be Kevin Stefanski. He knows the division. So the market tells you when you make a mistake. Remember when the Tennessee Titans fired Mike Vrabel? The market told you the jets wanted him, the Patriots wanted him. Everybody wanted Mike Vrabel. Cowboy fans wanted it. The market told you Tennessee made a mistake. And I'm just telling you if Stefanski's on the market, he's going to get a job. And it may be really close to Cleveland. It could be in division. Zach Taylor's only got one year left. They're not getting, they're not giving Joe Burrow a stiff right? I mean Joe Burrow's not happy with the Bengals. Now they're going to hire somebody who is knows the division offensive guy. So here's Stefanski this week on Shadour. Coming off a loss, he wants to continue to get better and better and that's the right attitude to have and that's, that's why we'll continue to work. There are things that he wants back that we're coaching up right now that he can improve upon. But bottom line is we have to continue to put our players in position to succeed. So just looking forward to that constant improvement with Shador and for all of our young players. Just, just go back a couple years ago, 11 and 6 AFC Buffalo was better than now. Kansas City was better then than now. The Bengals were arguably better then than now. I mean go back a couple years ago. AFC was stacked 11 and 6 and go look at the quarterbacks that were playing. It was just a revolving door. It was a merry go round. So I'm going to defend Kevin Stefanski, Dylan Gabriel, stabilize the offense. Shador gives them more pop. I think he's a really good coach. I think it's a mistake to fire him. In Chicago. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Give me the absolute biggest games you played. So Indiana had a very soft schedule, but they did play Oregon at Otson, and they rolled. So it's like, okay. And Illinois is pretty good. They beat him by 53. So in the two games where they faced a really good, solid team, they were totally impressive, but they didn't have a great schedule. I guess they wanted Iowa. They didn't have a great schedule. So I don't want an ugly loss. With Indiana, they didn't have one. But Texas played Oklahoma, hammered him. Texas A and M dominated him. Vannie was top 10, thumped him, was thumping them in the fourth quarter. Well, he lost at Ohio State by a touchdown. Since that game, Ohio State wins by 31 a game. They're the only team in the country that gave Ohio State a good game. And they were introducing four new offensive linemen in Arch Manning. Biggest game, massive pressure. Nobody was talking about Julian saying before that game, the pressure was all on Arch Manning. It was in Columbus. So I. In their biggest games. Sorry. That's why I say about Alabama. Their biggest game this year was at Georgia. They were flawless. Yeah, they stumbled. Alabama lost to Florida State. Just become a hazmat spill of a program. But when they went to Georgia this year, they were perfect. And that. That counts as, like, three wins to me. Winning in Athens. So I hear Sark yesterday on being punished mostly for a loss in a game they scheduled in Columbus. Unequivocally, I think we should be in the playoffs. I'm actually kind of shocked. We're actually having a discussion about this, but. But again, there's two teams ranked in front of us that we just beat. I'm a little concerned about what the committee's looking at. And to your point, if we're just going to look at records. I got to reevaluate our future schedules because I have to do what's in the best interest of the University of Texas. If we're going to look at records, I, I got to make sure I'm putting us in position to have the best record possible at the end of the season as opposed to playing really good teams and then looking at the total body work. So Miami's complaining. Miami's going well. We beat Notre Dame head to head, and the voters are like, so what? So Miami's not getting credit for a win over their best opponent, and Texas is getting penalized for losing to the best team in the country. Close on the road. Another thing in Texas's favor, like last year, Notre Dame lost at home to Northern Illinois and then got to the Natty. These are young kids. They change. Texas right now is playing really good football. The best they've played all year. Arch Manning over the last five games, 16 touchdowns, two picks. So I've, I've always said even more so than the pros. We all know in the pros, Belichick's worst month, Sean Payton's worst month, easily September. Well, in college, the kids are even younger. You only get 17 hours of practice. So I am always willing if you schedule a tough game early. I said last year, when Ohio State lost at Austin, I said, they're going to play again. Ohio State's going to beat them. I said, after they lost to Michigan, I said, ohio State, I still think can win. The Natty. Everybody bailed on him because young kids, class, midterms, fall in love, bad game, high and low. Anybody got kids up and down, up into NFL teams, you kind of, by this time, get consistent efforts. New England's been good now for eight weeks. They're pretty good, right? So I, I would have Texas in, you know, Miami, Notre. Dame. Listen, head to head, first game in August isn't the be all end all. But if you start looking at common opponents, with Miami and Notre Dame, the four common opponents, Miami beat three of four more soundly. And it's not like the fourth opponent, Notre Dame, beat him by a thousand. Miami also crushed him, Syracuse. So here's Urban Meyer on Texas and what to do with them. I think Texas deserves to be in the playoff, and I would not penalize that loss against Ohio State. You can't do that. You can't. Or you're getting ready to see Old Dominions going to become a favorite of all these big teams playing our teams like that because they need no one cares. Indiana is no one's saying a word about Indiana's non conference schedule. No one yet Texas made a decision to get on a plane and go play the number one team in the country or two number two team in the country on the road and they got beat in a tough game and now there's a chance because of that they'll be because if they didn't play that game we wouldn't be having this conversation. So Indiana played a really really weak got on the phone and dialed up very weak out of conference teams but when they did face Illinois destroyed them and when they went to Oregon they won. If they lose to Illinois I don't feel the same about Indiana schedules weak. So I think a lot of times my perception of a team is who'd you play? Who did you get on the phone and dial up? Who are the best teams you play? How did you perform? I'm not looking for perfection. And the tougher your schedule and Texas had a gauntlet. I'll give you bad loss. Indiana doesn't get a bad loss and they didn't have one. Texas, I'll give you a bad loss. Oklahoma, Georgia, Vandy, Ohio State. I mean we said this before the season started. The Texas schedule was brutal, absolutely brutal. So I'll give you the Florida loss. For the record. Back to the NFL we and what's going to be really interesting with these college football discussions tonight they come out with the latest rankings. Notre Dame and Miami, they're done playing and so Miami just looked great. I am because Notre Dame was slightly ahead of him. I am fascinated. I I said I had Notre Dame above Miami too despite the head to head. But after that win all, you know, everything's been baked. Not playing again. I'm have a hard time putting Miami behind Notre Dame and I think Notre Dame would be favored if they play and I think Notre Dame right now because of their run game is better but I don't know that. So now that all the results are in it's going to be hard to not put Miami above Notre Dame. Very difficult. I don't think Notre Dame or Miami are national championship teams but that's not the argument here. The argument is who deserves to be in the playoff and it can't be who I think would win. I mean that you play the games for a reason. I can't wait for tonight. Speaking of NFL and the New England Patriots, here's what's really interesting. So for about a five year period the AFC kept hitting on all the quarterbacks, they hit on Burrow and Mahomes and Allen and Lamar and C.J. stroud and Herbert. They were all good in the AFC, felt much better than the NFC. That is not the case this year. So go look at the AFC playoff picture if you went to the playoffs today. If you're doubting New England, the number two seed is Denver, who scores mostly in the fourth quarter. Do you trust Jacksonville as a three seed? Baltimore is playing awful football, Herbert's got a hand surgery. They're the fifth seed. Colts regressing six and nobody knows what to do with Buffalo seven. So what's interesting right now in the afc, no Burrow, no Mahomes, Herbert's hurt, Jags, Colts. So for anybody doubting New England, look at this is one of these odd years where the best quarterbacks may not make the playoffs and the number two and three and four seeds aren't necessarily playing great. If you go to the NFC, it's a different ballgame. NFC is stacked. The NFC, you can go to the seventh seed, San Francisco, 9 and 4. I think San Francisco could play its way into the AFC championship. I don't know if they'd win, but I think, I think Stanford said, I mean Green Bay is a six seed now. I think Green Bay would win the afc. I think Seattle would win the afc a five seed and I know the Rams would. So I mean right now Dallas could run the table and actually miss the playoffs. So you, you could have an excellent team miss the playoffs in the nfc. Go look at again the AFC and what New England may get. And as a number one seed, they get a buy. So if they're dinged up, they're healthy. Yeah, I mean this was the year. Sometimes timing really plays in your favor. No Burrow today, no Mahomes. Lamar struggling. Josh Allen didn't have a defense. PCs powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors are made to go the distance with blazing fast performance, next level efficiency and multi day battery life. Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it all, from highlight reel editing to intense player research. So you can be at the top of your game wherever the day takes you. Learn more@snapdragon.com laptops Snapdragon the heart of your PC. Battery life varies significantly based on device settings, usage and other factors.
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