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THE HERD - Hour 1 - Jerry Jones has become Al Davis, Bill Belichick's legacy has taken a hit, thoughts on Charles Barkley's comments
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Hang on, still scrolling. No, the address is here somewhere. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone who cares about truth when the lie is more entertaining. Welcome home. I'm Angela Rye, co host of the Native Lamp Pod with Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross, and we want y' all to survive and thrive in this political moment. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country, terrified that in our rest we're going to miss the moment. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action. Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. open is here and on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure, and of course, the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very wonderfully experience sporting event. To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain and iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, here we go. Ready to roll. It is a Wednesday. Joel Klatt, Mark Sanchez, we're live in our snazzy new studio. We're in Los Angeles. It is great to have you in today. We got all sorts of stuff. You know, Jerry Jones is on Good morning America this he is defending that trade of Micah Parsons on every network that'll have him on J Mac and we got a lot of stuff to talk about. One of my favorite things came out in the athletic. They've done it two years in a row. I texted the producer this morning at 4:40. Oh it's called the NFL hope o meter. So they go and they do a survey. Second year for the athletic. They do a survey with fans. How optimistic are you with your team? So this is pre Micah trade. So Micah was still a cowboy when they did this. So the teams at the top, they're loving life in Denver. You know, it's Philadelphia Ravens, Lions, Bills, Rams, Chiefs. You would understand that the shocker is look at the bottom, the least optimistic teams, Colts, Saints, Browns, Cowboys. Again, this is pre Micah Parsons trade. Second straight year Dallas, third from the bottom. They have a franchise quarterback that it's at least B2B plus, no state tax, free agents, decent weather, great facilities, big time weapons. Third from the bottom. That is a 100% complete indictment of Jerry Jones. That is an anti Jerry Jones vote. I started talking about this three years ago. It maybe sounds cruel, a little mean, but we got to keep it 100. This has become old Al Davis with the Raiders. Jerry's become old Al Davis with the Raiders. He keeps trying to sell the fans something and they're not buying. And what's amazing about this hopo meter pole in the athletic, number one Denver. And that's shocking. 2022, they got a new owner. They were awful fans. Sean Payton, everybody. Now they're number one. They're above the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Rams. Also see where the commanders are. They flushed out awful Dan Snyder. They're a top 10 optimism team. If you don't think owners matter, you're not paying attention. Dallas is in the same group as Cleveland, the Saints, the jets, the Colts. These are teams that have chaos at quarterback. So and I'll tell you the one thing because I watched this documentary on Netflix with Jerry. He had a big ego then, he's got a big ego now. He was a savvy businessman then. He's a savvy businessman. Now the difference is when he took that job, he got the best coach available on the market, Jimmy Johnson. Over the course of time, as coaching has become more crucial than ever, more important than ever, and there's more great young coaching. Jerry does not respect the profession. This is a quarterback coach league, and he doesn't respect the position. Brian Schottenheimer was on nobody's radar. I think the last time he interviewed for a head coaching job was 14 years ago. He was considered an old school offensive guy. Nobody was lined up for him. Forget head coach, head coordinator. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he crushes it. But they could have had Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel, Pete Carroll. They didn't even interview, not even interested. So. Because I think Jerry looks at it and thinks, I want to play with my toy. And there's a. There's several things that have happened that the Cowboys love. The Cowboys, they, over the last decade, have more starts from the players they've drafted than any other team. They, they don't want outside influence. They want friends of the family. I mean, you notice it. They don't. It's very insular. This is what happened to the Lakers until they got the new owner. And that will change. But. And Jerry is going on any network that will listen. And I defended him on the mica trade, but here he is on Good Morning America defending the mica deal. We have two kinds of capital or currency in the NFL. One of them is draft picks. The other is the financial because every team is limited to the same amount of resources to spend. And having said that, Micah enabled us to have four, possibly as many as six players for the future. That's a good trade when you need numbers. I'll take the numbers every time. Now I'll defend him on that. I would have done it a year ago, but not right before the season. But the Cowboy job should be like that line at Chick Fil A or In n out Burger. People should be lined up around the block. If Ohio State or Penn State, Georgia have a job opening, here come the resumes. The Yankees of the Dodgers have an opening. Here come the resumes. Kansas basketball, Duke, Carolina, UConn, Dallas Cowboys. Look at who's applying for that thing. I mean, it is that vote. The Cowboys are in the class of the Browns. That is a 100% anti Jerry vote. So, you know, we, we were saying this yesterday. It's not that Bill Belichick lost to tcu, it's how they lost. I turned it off mid third quarter. They were humiliated. They Were bad at everything. After that first opening drive, I think they went the next six drives, didn't complete a pass. It was really bad. So you, you know, you think Bill's got his guys? Mike Vrabel's one of his guys, right? Here's Vrabel on WEI radio talking about Bill's opener with the Tar Heels. You know, I mean, you coached in college. It takes a while, don't you think, to get a program going in there like that? I don't know. Urban Meyer won 12 of the first 12 games at Ohio State, so it didn't take him long. I'm just that. That's my experience in college football. Ouch. For the record, Lincoln Riley, first year at Oklahoma, 12 wins. First year at USC, 11 wins. And you guys don't like Lincoln Riley. Urban Meyer, remember, he took over for Ron Zook. It was a Mess. First year, nine wins in the SEC at Ohio State, 12 wins. Jim Harbaugh, Michigan took over. Brady Hoke, a disaster. They didn't have. I mean, they weren't getting guys drafted in the first couple of rounds. 10 wins. I was there for the opener. Kurt Signetti at Indiana basketball School Year 1, 11 wins. Sonny Dykes, TCU, first year, 13 wins. It's not like Carolina. I mean, they went to a bowl game last year. So, as I said yesterday, I'm absolutely convinced. The number one problem with Belichick, when it's coaching staffs or players, he just is seeking comfort. He just wants to coach and work with people that he's comfortable with. But the other thing I think is interesting is like, if you're a great actor, you're Tom Cruise, you're Marlon Brando, you're Samuel L. Jackson, Anthony Hopkins, whoever you are. If you have two or three duds in your career, I do not hold it against you. You're still a great artist. You're still a great actor, right? If you're. You're a great athlete. Michael Jordan, and it ends ugly with the Wizards or your Shaq, and you bounce around the league, or you're Patrick Ewing, and it ends with a lot of turbulence and a lot of losses, I don't hold it against you. It just disappears into the ethereum. But I no longer can look at Belichick the same, because without Brady in Cleveland, without Brady in college, without Brady in New England, he won 44% of his games. He averages 19 points a game. It would be as if Phil Jackson left Michael Jordan and could never win again. But Phil proved in Albany of the cea. Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson. If you gave him the pieces, he would dominate the league. Wasn't a great gm. He was older, whatever. The next James Dolan, whatever. But it is different. Like when I. It does. In my opinion, it does affect how I view Belichick. I can't. I can't help it. I watch that. Nothing works. Nothing worked early in New England. Nothing worked late. I'm not, I'm not saying Belichick didn't help with Dante Scarnica. It didn't help Brady early. But by the end, I felt like Belichick was getting in the way of Brady. He got in the way in that super bowl against the Philadelphia Eagles. Wouldn't play. Darius Butler got in the way, won that. Did New England even punt in that game? He got in the way with personnel. He could not draft receivers or tight ends or Pro Bowlers. Offensively, I think he carried Tom in the first couple Super Bowls, last eight, 10 years. I'll make the argument just as often. Felt like he got in the way. And you can be an actor, you can be an athlete, you can be an artist, you can deliver clunkers. But there is something about what I'm watching. It's got a Bobby Knight feel, the late Bobby Knight, that so many people told Bill how brilliant he was. He bought the sauce. And what I watched the other night, Mike Frable. That's an ouch. Yeah. Urban Meyer went 12 and oh, first year taking over for a 6 and 7 team. That is a big ouch. That's. That's keeping it 100J. Mac. There are all sorts of funny things in this hop o meter poll. Should I ask where the jets were or not even worth it? I mean, honestly, my jets hope right now like 11. Like, I don't think there's. I will say, big injury this morning. Oh, what was that? Vera Tucker, Significant army. He gets hurt a lot all the time. Yeah, he's. He has been a really good interior alignment, but he has struggled with health. We're not going to be good this year. We. By the way, I don't know. I. You know, you've been very critical of Charles Barkley through the years. Yeah. I mean, you. You've been very critical of him this morning. I'll take a shot. Because I, I don't. I don't buy what he's selling me. I don't buy what. Charles Barkley on a podcast is something. I love Charles. You don't. I love him, but I'm not buying what he's selling me. And I'll Talk about that next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. Would mean a lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking what in God's name is the fifth Hour? I'll tell you. It's a spin off of the Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights on fsr. Why should you listen? Picture, if you will, a world where we chat with captains of industry in media, sports and more every week. Explore some amazing facts about human nature and more. Listen to the fifth hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. You probably think of Michelin as a tire company. And I mean it is, but it's really an innovation company and that's why their tires are as good as they are. It started in the 1800s making brake pads for horse drawn carriages. Seriously. Later, Michelin basically invented the modern tire with the first steel belted design. That innovation has never slowed. In fact, it's only accelerated. These days though, it's Michelin in motion vision. The company is expanding into healthcare, energy and even aerospace. Seriously. For instance, they're developing an airless wheel for lunar exploration. It's gotta deal with vast temperature swings, radiation and rough terrain on the moon and maybe one day on Mars. I mean, this is more than just some sort of vanity project. It showcases Michelin's broader shift from tire manufacturing to high tech durable mobility solutions. It's about the exact same thing that led to those horse drawn carriage brake pads well over 100 years ago. It's about innovation. Learn more at michelinman.com y Michelinnovation Michelin Motion for Life not all group chats are the same, just like not all Adams are the same. Adam Brody, for instance, uses WhatsApp to pin messages, send events and settle debates using polls with his friends all in one group chat. Makes our guys night easier. But Adam Scott group messages with an app that isn't WhatsApp. Which means he still can't find that text from his friends about where to meet. Hang on, still scrolling. No, the address is here somewhere. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone who cares about truth when the lie is more entertaining. Hey everybody, I'm Angela Wright, co host of Native Lampod with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves. That's the truth. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country. Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it. We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime in. What would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South. Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on. What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action. Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yes, welcome home, y'. All. The US Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner? And the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know, plus the stories and events off the court. And of course, the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams, recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka? Getting back to form to hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain and iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. So back when I fell in love with the NBA in the 70s, I collected basketball cards, not baseball cards like all my other friends. There were no dominant teams. The Sixers, the Warriors, the Blazers, the Sonics, Washington with Elvin Hayes and Wes Onsell, everybody won like a championship. Knicks were good, early 70s. And, and that's what we have now in the NBA. Seven years, seven different champions. Now, dynasties tend to ignite ratings and drive interest, but they also tick off owners, and there's a sense that nobody can compete. So Adam Silver's NBA is much like the 1970s NBA. David Stern didn't have a problem with dynasties, but he also inherited a league that was in big trouble. The NBA is not in trouble. They just signed an 11 year, $76 billion deal. But there are those that say, you know, with all these aprons now, it's hard to trade. Players can't play together. And Charles Barkley is defending Adams over the commissioner. All these guys want to play together and not compete. How many great players do you need on one team? See, this is what bothers me. My generation. LeBron got all his guys together. KD want to go play with the Warriors. Wait, y' all don't, like. Don't want to win the championship and just compete against each other? Don't get mad at Adam Silver because y' all all want to play together and dominate the league because y' all don't want to compete. A timeout. Sports isn't venture capitalism. You're not seeking dysfunction so you can get a big greater return. The best high school basketball players, funny, they don't. They don't choose, you know, the Iowa states, they choose, like, Purdue and Carolina and Duke in Kansas, the best high school football players, they choose Ohio State and Alabama and Georgia and Texas. Isn't that interesting? And lsu. They. They. They don't choose, you know, Purdue. Well, why is that? Because they want to play with better players. The number one piece of advice I give all young broadcasters anytime I speak is don't chase money. Chase great teammates, chase great management, chase great brands. There's a sea of money. There's not a. There's not a sea of great people to work with or great management. There's not a sea of that. There's a lot of money. If you're good, you'll get your money in any profession. So, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio is not choosing the weakest scripts. In fact, the best actors, you can go find your Bradley Coopers and the Tom Cruise. You go find your top actors. They often find a director, and they work with them. They have, like, a show unit, and that's who they want to work with. The very best. The best studios, the best directors, the best writers. Since when LeBron James wanted to play, he left Cleveland the first time because of a dysfunctional organization that after seven years couldn't get him an all Star. By the way, shaq also joined D Wade as LeBron did. So I don't buy this. That choosing better teammates, better brands, and better coaches. I mean, Micah Parsons may have preferred to be a cowboy, but Green Bay is a great place to play. It beats Carolina and Jacksonville over the last 30 years. So I don't buy this. I don't buy this. You know, people are changing history. Barkley got traded to the Rockets in 1997. He joined Akeem Olajuwon and Drexler. And when he was quoted here, he said, it was my first priority. He was joining two hall of Famers. Why in the world. I mean, even at the high school level, these people in Cleveland that were bothered, you know, LeBron left Ohio twice. Well, guess what? People leave Delaware and New Jersey and Washington State and Wyoming and to play at Ohio State. Always choose better teammates, always choose better bosses, always choose better environments. Even the great ones can't overcome dysfunction, and there's as much dysfunction as great in sports. So I don't buy that for a second. Kevin Durant and LeBron have wanted better situations. Exactly. Team LeBron, Team KD on that one. It'd be great if everybody got drafted, like Derek Jeter to the Yankees and surrounded by great teammates. It would be great if you were Kobe with a late, great Dr. Jerry Buss as your owner. It would be wonderful. That's not the percentages. The percentages is are you gotta move your first team, your first gm, your first coach, your first teammate. They're not up to your standard if you're a lottery pick. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news. Keep moving, brother. Love it. Love it that you're coming around on Sir Charles. Yeah. You left the big league clueless, Sir Charles. You kicked digital to the curb. Yeah. By the way, you remember he forced his way out of Philly, forced his way out of Phoenix. LeBron's just smarter. I'm just going to leave as a free agent. All right, let's get to NFL. Eagles kick off their super bowl title defense tomorrow night when they host the Cowboys. Typically, the defending champ raises their banner, and Philly's no different. But listen to what Nick Sirianni said about the banner raising yesterday. How do you feel about the fact that. That even though it is banner night for you guys, the fans will still have the standard of performing and winning at a high level? Yeah, I don't. I didn't know it was banner night. We won't be out for that. Yeah. All business. Taking their cues from Jalen Hurts the professional quarterback. Yeah. I have a feeling if you had to predict one blowout this weekend because I think. I think Denver, Tennessee, I think Denver's going to win, but I think there could be a backdoor cover there. Yeah, there's. Sean Payton hasn't been great in openers in Denver, but nevertheless. But does this not feel like 30 to 13? I mean pre Micah, the defense was a mess. Trayvon Diggs may not play. I feel. I think Philadelphia is going to completely control the line of scrimmage. I think they're going to do whatever they want. I. This has blowout written all over it. I mean maybe there's a world where Dak has had some big plays to Pickens and Lamb, but that'll be fun to watch, a fun game to watch if you're. I know you do a lot of fantasy football. Dak Prescott can put up like 4,4500 yards this season because they're going to be trailing a lot. He's going to be throwing a lot. But I like the Eagles as well. All right, let's move on to quarterbacks against the spread. We got some interesting numbers here. Yahoo Sports put together a list of the top quarterbacks against the spread. Against the spread. And wouldn't you know it, Josh Allen comes out as the number one QB ats. What is he worth, about seven and a half points a game? Yeah, I would say more than that. I followed by Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. You bet on these guys to cover all the time. These guys are all. I would. I would imagine all these guys are worth at the top are worth a touchdown. Touchdown. And Jalen Hurts. Oh, by the way, against the spread. Yeah. Vegas is the most honest place in the country. But they know this. That's why you're paying the Chiefs tax. They call it. Justin Herbert, number six. Yeah. Who was four. I can't see him credit. Yeah. There is no Brock Purdy didn't make the list. Pretty obvious. But Jalen Hurts is four. And that, that, that. And I do think in terms of spread, his ability to pick up first downs and keep your offense off the field. I think, I think one of the great virtues of Jalen Hurts, he is the strongest player in the league. Pound for pound, obviously the strongest quarterback in the league. His ability if he plays Burrow Mahomes Alan Lamar keeps him off the field. He picks up first downs. Listen, I said last week that I think Hurts is the best dual threat quarterback in the league. And all these Josh Allen fans hated me and I just. My Counter is easy, Colin. There's one unstoppable play in this league and that's the brotherly shove. Yeah, Josh Allen tried it against the Chiefs over three in a huge spot. No, Jalen hurts delivers that all the time. And I will say this is where I have undervalued Jalen hurts. When you play other great quarterbacks, the key is trying to get them out of rhythm or off the field. Brady was the master at fourth and one. Brady was unbelievable on third down. So when Brady played the occasional Mahomes or Manning, he took away. He. He won the field position battle. If Peyton or Burrow got the ball or Mahomes, they didn't have great field position. That's Jalen hurts strength. Now the O line's also great. He rarely loses the field position battle in a game and is the one weather gets lousy by late October. That's a big part of football, is having the wind at your back, having field position, picking up first downs, keeping their star quarterback off. Off the field. You don't want to do it all the time, but if it's a big game and a big spot, Third and four, Jaylen, brotherly shove for two or three. Jaylen gets the first down like it's automatic. If they remove that play from the playbook, I'll pull back on my Jalen hurts. But as long as it's out there, Colin, I'm sorry, I gotta. I gotta rock with him. Final stories to college football. Obviously, Arch Manning, you know, he took his lumps in the opener, but this is interesting. Do you remember A.J. mcCarron? Yeah, the Alabama quarterback. I believe he was a backup in Cincinnati for many years. Yeah. He is now questioning whether or not Arch Manning can live up to the hype. I feel bad for Arch. The. The hype is just set at such a high level to where I don't know if the kid can ever live up to it. And with the day and age we live in and social media, they already had the memes coming out hell at halftime against him and talking about he was adopted and all kind of crazy stuff. I just hate it for the kid because the media has built his hype up so high. I just don't know how you can be successful with it. Let's be honest here. He was the number one high school quarterback in the country. Well, we also built up Quinn Ewers hype. We also built up Caleb Williams. We're not building up Arch. Yes, the Manning name is substantial, but if you look at number one quarterback, Caleb Williams, Coming into the NFL, and this is what we do. Kyler Murray, when he went to Arizona, was called the best high school player in the history of the state of Texas. So it's not this idea. The media was unfair with Arch Manning. All of us said the same thing. Wait, this is a go either way game. But also, by the way, it's not just the media. Vegas had him as the Heisman favorite. Yes. So it's not just the media. And I will say the spin about, hey, man, Joe Burrow struggled in his first year as a starter at lsu. Then he set the world on fire with, you know, every record imaginable. Maybe that's architecture. We're bending over backwards trying to make Argentine well because the Mannings are so respected and so decent. You know, I'm thinking as I lead with it too, I don't want to bury the kid, but it was jarring to look at. It wasn't close. It was layups, missed and skipping balls and arm slot mechanics. So, yeah, I mean, I don't buy into this. If you can't handle being under, over criticized or overhyped, get out of the. The quarterback position. Like, I don't want to hear from dads. You guys are rough. The part of the growth of being a star athlete, specifically a quarterback, is media criticism and how you handle it. Baker Mayfield handles it well now. He did not handle it well for the first two years. Three years in Cleveland, he would admit. Now Johnny Manziel still gets defensive about it. Cam got defensive. I wish social media were around when Peyton Manning was flopping in every playoff game early in his career. Do you remember how bad it was? He couldn't. He couldn't win. He couldn't win a playoff game for like the first five years of his career. We'd be killing him now. Yeah, J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. So I got to go back to this Hopo meter, the athletic second year. They take fans and they poll fans on how much hope do you have? So I led the show with this. Denver's number one. And you know new owners, Sean Payton, Bo Nix. I get it. It's interesting. The Steelers are 26 out of 32 teams. Isn't that crazy? So they haven't had a losing season in 22 years. They get DK Metcalf, Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Rodgers. They're tied with the Patriots for the most Super Bowls ever was six. And the Steeler fans are only slightly more confident than Panthers, Titans, Falcons and Jets fans. So, and they are not wrong. And I think the thing that I've, I've always sort of pushed back on this stuff with Pittsburgh, what you brag about in life says a lot about you. If you're bragging about mediocrity in the NFL, if you're bragging about we don't have losing seasons, basically now you're bragging about nine wins. The standard is, is low. And I, and I, we were talking about this as a staff this morning. I view the Steelers is much closer to the Bengals than the Ravens. I think the Ravens is separated from the Steelers. I think they have better ownership. I think they consistently are more aggressive in their front office in the off season. I think they evaluate quarterbacks better. I think this, I think the Ravens now are what The Steelers were 25 years ago. And the standard for Baltimore is urgency at quarterback, urgency and free agency. So I, I, and I think John Harbaugh is a top five coach. I do not think that with Mike Tomlin. So I, we were talking about this this morning. Pittsburgh's never exactly been hip, but they've become Zubaz pants here pretty quick. They had no urgency the last several years. Post Big Bennett quarterback, no urgency. Maybe we'll get Aaron, maybe we won't. They spend the most money in the league for the fourth or fifth straight year on defense. So it's, it is something else. But I always find this funny. Pittsburgh fans get incredibly defensive when you're critical. But the truth is, if you look at this fan poll, Falcons fans, Panthers fans, Raiders fans, Giants fans, this year, Jaguar fans are significantly more optimistic than, than Pittsburgh Steeler fans. I mean, think about that. Those people have nothing to be optimistic about and they're more optimistic. So Joel Clapp's going to be joining us at the top of the hour. You know, there was a moment in the Micah Parsons trade. His agent was talking yesterday and talked about how Micah actually wanted to stay in Dallas and play for the Cowboys. And I think there's a life lesson we can learn here. And we'll talk about that next. We're live in la. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. You probably think of Michelin as a tire company. And I mean it is, but it's really an innovation company and that's why their tires are as good as they are. It started in the 1800s making brake pads for horse drawn carriages. Seriously. Later, Michelin basically invented the modern tire with the first steel belted design. That innovation has never slowed. In fact, it's only accelerated. These days though, it's Michelin in Motion vision. The company is expanding into healthcare, energy and even aerospace. Seriously. For instance, they're developing an airless wheel for lunar exploration. It's gotta deal with vast temperature swings, radiation and rough terrain on the moon and maybe one day on Mars. I mean, this is more than just some sort of vanity project. It showcases Michelin's broader shift from tire manufacturing to high tech durable mobility solutions. It's about the exact same thing that led to those horse drawn carriage brake pads well over a hundred years ago. It's about innovation. Learn more@michelinman.com y michelinnovation Michelin Motion for Life not all group chats are the same, just like not all atoms are the same. Adam Brody, for instance, uses WhatsApp to pin messages, send events and settle debates using polls with his friends all in one group chat. Makes our guys night easier. But Adam Scott grouped messages with an app that isn't WhatsApp. Which means he still can't find that text from his friends about where to meet. Hang on, still scrolling. No, the address is here somewhere. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone who cares about truth when the lie is more entertaining. Hey everybody, I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lampod with you, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillum through the lens of politics and culture. We talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves. That's the truth. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country. Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it. We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime in. What would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South? Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on. What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine, you want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action. Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Podcast. Welcome, welcome. How are y'? All? The US Open is here and on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. 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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iheartra Women's sports Saturday, the Cy Hawk series takes center stage. It all starts at 10am Eastern with the best pregame show in college football. Live from the campus of Iowa State. Then Rocco Becht leads the Cyclones in a showdown against arch rival Iowa on Big Noon Saturday only on Fox. Michigan playing Oklahoma, I think is it this weekend? Yes, sir. I like Oklahoma in that one. You are very anti Michigan. I saw some troubling signs like the quarterback a lot. I need to do some more homework on that one. Did you see USC scored 73 points and got fewer votes? No, but I think you love mentioning that situation going to their game this weekend. What do you have a Kawhi Leonard type deal with Lincoln Riley or something? No, no, no. I'm kind of interesting. See what I did there? Yeah, yeah, real journalism. So you got to be careful about holding those childhood dreams too tightly. Like, you grow up, you want to be something. There's a big world out there. Move out of your area code. So Micah Parsons agent was saying that actually Micah wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy. It's nothing against the Packers. And here's Micah talking about his new team and Dallas to Cowboy Nation. Really just thank you. Like I don't think people realize, you know, I'm a very simple man. Is it's all about principle with me. And it's all about, you know, the love and authentic authenticity. You know, I wish, you know, you know, things didn't have to be like this. You know, but, you know, I'm happy for this opportunity. I'm happy to be here. And, you know, I'm ready to win some games. Okay? Green Bay is going to win 11 or 12 games this year. Dallas could win four. And I'm not joking. He got a better GM, a better roster, a better organization, better momentum, better quarterback overall, a better operation, and no vanity plagued owner. This is a great situation. Is there a lot to do in Green Bay? No, not really. It's chilly in the winter. There's not a ton to do. But this is a great example of don't hold on to your childhood dreams too tightly. Seek excellence. Okay. At 4, we all love chicken nuggets. At 14, you like chick fil A. At 24, 25, try some lobster. This is a great spot for him. And remember, Dallas hasn't bottomed out yet. Dallas has not bottomed out yet. Now, I don't know how good Jordan Love is. He's super talented, but, but he's a better thrower, he moves better. He's younger and less expensive than Dak Prescott. So if you put a room of GMs up and you had Dak or Jordan Love, the majority would take Jordan Love. And if it's Matt LaFleur against Brian Schottenheimer, everybody in this league is taking Matt LaFleur. So this is a great opportunity for him. And you just got to be careful about, you know, this is what I always wanted to be his agents. Like, he was always a cowboy. He always dreamed about being a cowboy. He always wanted to be live in Dallas and be a Cowboy. This is not the time to be a Dallas Cowboy. It is not the time. So when Deion Sanders took the job at Colorado, I, I, we were joking this morning that actually Deion Sanders has been the number one nil transfer in college football the last three years. He is the name, image and likeness of Colorado football. Lot of sizzle, not a ton of steak. About 500 since he arrived. Can't beat good teams. Lost seven straight to ranked teams. But I will say this about Deion Sanders. I thought it was a weird fit. I remember when it broke, like on a Thursday or Friday, I thought, that's not gonna work. And then I remember coming back on Monday and thinking, you know, Colorado's not Georgia. They just want to be relevant. So this weekend, Deion Sanders, this past week, they lost a football game. Listen, the media and fans crush coaches for clock management. People understand. Andy Reid's the best coach in the world coaching football. You ever notice that everybody Used to talk about clock management with Andy Reid in Philadelphia, and they never do in Kansas City. A lot of that clock management, frankly, is in the quarterback's hands. They're on the field. So I'm going to defend Deion Sanders. I watched the end of this game. I didn't love the clock management. But don't nitpick. I mean, Colorado was the second best team on the field. Here is Dion kind of defending how he used the clock on that final drive. First down, we throw a lateral pass, right? We lose for four or five yards. Do you call time out there? No, you're right there. You don't call timeout. So the next play, what you gain? I guess 14 yards, whatever. Now you got second, third and one, right? Do you call time out there? Third and one, you get the first down, clock stops. Scramble play. He ran out of bounds. The clock stopped, right? Now we throw the ball at end zone. Clock stop, right? So when was the time to call time out? I'm gonna defend Dion. I watched it. Andy Reid, I mean, you never heard Belichick get beaten up for clock management or Sean Payton, because they had Brady and they had Breeze. And Andy Reid never gets crushed for it. He's got Mahomes and Sean McDermott. He doesn't get. He get. He didn't get knocked for it much either. He's got Josh Allen, so. But I think what's interesting about Deion Sanders at Colorado, he got them as much as color Colorado will ever attain in 20, 25. He got eyeballs sold, tickets got him on TV, brought relevance, and they're a 500 team, and that's it. And they're not going to beat ranked teams very often. And he got him some nil money. He sold the stadium. They're in the green. They're no longer in the. You know, they're not in the red anymore. They're in the black. They're doing fine. They're making money, right? They're making money. They're selling tickets. They're selling merch. That's the ceiling for Colorado football. This is not Georgia or Alabama. And what he sought is what he got, which is control. He is not Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State. He's not that good a coach. He's not Lance Leopold at Kansas. He's not that good a coach. Kansas was a worse football program. Lance Leopold, first year, second year, beating good teams. You know, he's not Kyle Whittingham at Utah or Matt Campbell at Iowa State. That's not what he is. He's a former player. He got what he sought, which was control, relevance, juice and energy. Eyes on his product. And that's as good as Colorado is going to do. Colorado won a natty years ago. The world's changed in nil. Colorado can't stack up. I don't know what Colorado gets annually for football unless they have a rich booster. I'd be shocked if they have over $7 million. My guess is they're around five, six, seven. I mean, good programs like Washington have about seven to $8 million a year. Nil, so. And the big dogs like Oregon, you know, it's 15, 20 for the Texas, Ohio State's, Notre Dame's or whatever. I don't know if Notre Dame's at that high. USC is now. So I, I, I, I always think Dion was always, when he was a, when he was a player, when he was a commentator and as a coach, he likes attention. He likes control. Right. Remember when he dumped the, the water on the late Tim McCarver, the broadcaster, McCarver. He lost control. He wasn't controlling the narrative, he wasn't controlling the commentary. Dion didn't like that. Dion leaves the NFL Network when they won't, they won't pay him what he wants. He wants control. I'm not against it. He wanted control. They wanted relevance. It's actually become a perfect marriage. But he's 13 and 13 and can't beat ranked teams. And he's not an elite coach. And he, he is a, he is what he was billed. You want to be relevant, hire Deion Sanders. And that's what they are. You know, J. Mac, I want to circle back to something we talked about earlier. Well, in fact, I'll get to it next hour. So I want to go to the week one schedule. And we do this as the football season starts. We do this on a fairly regular basis. Yeah, we throw up the week one schedule. Now, we don't need to talk about odds and who is betting, but there are some things that are noteworthy. For instance, on Friday, Andy Reid is the best September coach in the league over the last decade. But Jim Harbaugh in the NFL, I believe, is five. And, oh, and openers. So against the spread. Against the spread. So Harbaugh is getting a field goal. It's a home road game. It's a Chargers. So far, you know, it's 50, 50 split. Just your feelings. This game's in Brazil. Oh, it's in Brazil. Well, then that's a nightmare for both teams. Yeah. So we both like Philadelphia over Dallas yes, it's locked that up. Okay, if I just said to you Kansas City Chargers, these are two very good season opening offensive coaches, where would you lean? Listen, that's a game you don't pick. You don't need to pick that game. I mean, listen, I'm rooting. Chargers. No Rasheed Rice for Kansas City. Lot of noise around Kelsey in the engagement. Well, Kelsey at the. Remember last year Travis Kelsey arrived later but Noah Gray was picking up some slack. So you have no number one receiver in Rasheed Rice. You're starting a rookie at left tackle against. Well, actually it won't be Cleo. No, no Cl. I think he's on the other side. Maybe they move him starting a left tackle rookie. No. Rasheed Rice. Travis Kelsey, you and I know he'll be there in the big games. He could very well going to Brazil not be at his best. I tend to think Kansas City games are always close. You put in a rival. Harbaugh, Herbert. I would take the points. Yeah, I'll take the point. If you're giving me three and a half, definitely charge. Go, go Chargers. Okay, so Sunday early window. I think one of the better bets on the board is the Giants getting six to six and a half points. You locked that in earlier this week because it's coming down. I'm seeing six, it might seem five and a half. Did you lock that in? Because remember last year we let you do the lock in. I have not locked it in, but there's, there's things here. I think the New York Giants defensive front will keep the Giants offense, albeit a limited offense. I think the Giants defensive front, when it's healthy, which it is now, will keep them in games. And if you care about against the spread, Dan Quinn, the worst head coach against the spread. 1 in 6 ATS in openers. That goes back to his. Atlanta defensive coaches generally aren't as good in September. Belichick's weakest month was always September. What did Terry McLaurin join the Washington commanders? He'll be fine. Yeah, I mean, honestly, is he up to speed? Like I. I'm with you. I like the Giants are in an upset now. I do like the Falcons. I don't think you can rock with me there. You have some funny Falcon stakes as always. But I will say another game, one o' clock window. That's great. Cleveland at home. Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor have been slow starters. So Cleveland at home getting points. Cleveland's not going to be good over the course of a season, but bad teams tend to think they're better than they are in September. I think the Browns at home keep it close. Let's just be okay. I've been on the show with you for now. I think three years. One of your best things is hey, just take the better quarterback. You just told me. Going against Patrick Mahomes, Jaden Daniels and now Joe Burrow. Colin, what's going on here? Come on. Are seriously, what's next? Are you going to go against Josh Allen? Come on. No, I'm, I'm mostly taking the best quarterbacks but I, but I do think there are things I worry about teams that do not have established offensive lines. Kansas City's playing a left tackle that's a rookie. Offensive lines over the course of 17 weeks. If you have new starters or young starters, you don't play those guys a lot of snaps. O line is the number one unit that is hardest to create cohesion and chemistry. So Kansas City's O line, Joe Tooney gone. Rookie left tackle. I get Khalil Mack. I, I, I think Kansas City could be chopped. Also you're asking them to travel to Brazil. It's gonna be a great game. You should be close. Chargers always seem to play them close. How good home. I'm telling you, the NFL listen to these games late Sundays. Listen to these. Some of these babies. Detroit at Green Bay. That's great. Baltimore at Buffalo Monday night. Minnesota at Chicago. I like Minnesota there. Well, you skipped over San Fran at Seattle. We're on opposing sides in that one. I've already bet the Niners here. Now I am worried about the depth chart. Ricky Pierce, all Juwan Jennings Seattle secondary is incredible. Witherspoon was a great find. It's, it's very good. It's gonna be a good game. I just don't know that I like the under. Yeah, that sounds about right. I mean Seattle is pivoting to a run game first. The Niners are a MASH unit on the perimeter and Seattle secondary is one of the better secondaries in the league. So I think that's got 2017 written all over it. Plus Robert Sala doesn't have a ton to work with. Not as much when he was there previously. Sal is a great defensive coordinator for the Niners. I ran into a buddy at the gym and he's a Steelers fan. I went and made a with him for fun. I got jets, he's got Steelers. Do you have any read on that game whatsoever? The Aaron Rodgers revenge spot? Probably Lean Jets. Yeah. Don't feel great about it. Don't feel good about it. Our two who cares about truth when the lies More entertaining. Welcome home. I'm Angela R. Co host of the Native Lampod with Andrew Gillam and Tiffany Cross, and we want y' all to survive and thrive in this political moment. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country. I am terrified that in our rest, we're going to miss the moment. You want me to stop resting? 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