The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 1 (September 3, 2025)
Episode Theme:
Colin Cowherd analyzes the state of several high-profile sports franchises, the evolving legacies of legendary figures in the NFL and NBA, and pushes back on generational sports narratives—offering candid opinions about Jerry Jones’ stewardship of the Cowboys, Bill Belichick’s diminished coaching reputation, and Charles Barkley’s critiques of modern athletes.
Main Discussion Points
1. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys: From Powerhouse to the 'New Al Davis'
(Starts ~06:00)
- Fan Optimism at an All-Time Low:
Colin discusses The Athletic’s “NFL hope-o-meter,” a fan survey ranking team optimism. Notably, Cowboys fans are third-least optimistic despite assets like a franchise quarterback, tax advantages, and excellent facilities.- “That is a 100% complete indictment of Jerry Jones. That is an anti-Jerry Jones vote.” – Colin (08:30)
- Parallel with Al Davis’ Decline:
Colin argues Jerry Jones is mirroring the late-career decline of Raiders’ Al Davis—clinging to control, ignoring outside perspectives, and becoming out of touch with the modern game.- “Jerry’s become old Al Davis with the Raiders. He keeps trying to sell the fans something and they're not buying.” – Colin (09:15)
- Failure to Attract Top Coaches:
The Cowboys refuse to pursue top-tier coaching talent, instead opting for internal hires or “friends of the family" like Brian Schottenheimer.- “Brian Schottenheimer was on nobody's radar...They could have had Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel, Pete Carroll…” – Colin (11:20)
- Cowboys’ Loss of Prestige:
The head coach job, once a dream gig, now draws less interest than illustrious college programs or MLB franchises.- “People should be lined up around the block...Look at who's applying for that thing.” – Colin (13:45)
- Jerry Defends Micah Parsons Trade:
Colin plays and defends Jones defending the controversial trade, emphasizing long-term team building.- Jerry Jones: “Micah enabled us to have four, possibly as many as six players for the future. That's a good trade when you need numbers. I'll take the numbers every time.” (12:55)
- Colin’s take: “I would have done it a year ago, but not right before the season.” (13:30)
Notable Moment:
“The Cowboys are in the class of the Browns. That is a 100% anti-Jerry vote.” – Colin (14:45)
2. Bill Belichick’s Coaching Legacy Takes a Hit
(Begins ~15:00)
- Belichick’s College Struggles as a Red Flag:
After a disastrous debut at North Carolina, counterparts like Vrabel chime in with harsh perspective.- Mike Vrabel: “Urban Meyer won 12 of the first 12 games at Ohio State, so it didn't take him long.” (17:30)
- Colin: “Ouch… That's my experience in college football.” (17:40)
- Other Coaches’ Success in Year One:
Lists rapid first-year turnarounds by Urban Meyer, Lincoln Riley, Jim Harbaugh, and more as a contrast to Belichick’s struggles. - Comfort Zone Critique:
Suggests Belichick now chooses only staff he feels “comfortable with,” inhibiting evolution and success.- “He just wants to coach and work with people that he's comfortable with.” – Colin (18:22)
- Legacy Contextualized by Brady’s Influence:
Without Brady, Belichick’s career record falls to earth.- “Without Brady…he won 44% of his games. He averages 19 points a game.” (19:40)
- “It would be as if Phil Jackson left Michael Jordan and could never win again.” (20:10)
- Difference Between Sports and Art/Acting:
Colin notes that, unlike actors or athletes whose late-career struggles don’t tarnish their greatness, failures without Brady have permanently impacted Belichick’s status. - Belichick ‘Bought the Sauce’:
Compared to Bobby Knight's decline—praised past his prime until he stopped adjusting.- “It does affect how I view Belichick. I can’t help it.” (21:10)
Notable Moment:
“There is something about what I'm watching. It's got a Bobby Knight feel, the late Bobby Knight, that so many people told Bill how brilliant he was, he bought the sauce.” – Colin (21:40)
3. Charles Barkley’s Critique of Today’s NBA Players & Colin’s Rebuttal
(Starts ~25:30, expanded at 30:45)
- Barkley's Complaint:
Charles Barkley criticizes modern stars for wanting to team up instead of “competing.”- Barkley: “How many great players do you need on one team? My generation—LeBron got all his guys together. KD wanted to go play with the Warriors...Y'all don't want to win championships and just compete against each other?” (33:00)
- Colin’s Counter-Argument:
- Sports is not ‘venture capitalism’—players don’t join the weakest teams by design.
- Best athletes want to work with the best teammates, comparable to high school and college recruitment, and even Hollywood actors picking great directors.
- "Always choose better teammates, always choose better bosses, always choose better environments. Even the great ones can't overcome dysfunction." – Colin (34:25)
- Points out Barkley himself asked to be traded to join two Hall of Famers in Houston in 1997.
- Modern Movement as the Norm:
LeBron and KD are simply maximizing their careers; dysfunction drives talent away from weaker organizations. - J Mac Agrees & Adds Barkley’s Own History:
J Mac: “You left the big league clueless, Sir Charles. You kicked digital to the curb...He forced his way out of Philly, forced his way out of Phoenix. LeBron's just smarter. I'm just going to leave as a free agent.” (35:50)
Memorable Quote:
“The number one piece of advice I give all young broadcasters…don’t chase money. Chase great teammates, chase great management, chase great brands. There’s a sea of money. Not a sea of great people to work with.” – Colin (33:59)
4. Additional Key Segments
NFL Hope-o-Meter and Team Culture
(Begins ~41:50)
- Denver now ranks #1 in hope after a dreadful season and new ownership—a sign that “owners matter.”
- Washington Commanders skyrocket in optimism after Dan Snyder’s exit.
- Steelers fans, despite decades of competitiveness, fall toward the bottom—Colin argues they now “brag about mediocrity.”
Odds and Week 1 NFL Matchups
(Begins ~51:00)
- Colin and J Mac preview Week 1, focusing on coaching trends, injury updates, and betting angles (e.g., rookie O-lines, home underdogs).
- Touts Eagles dominance against Dallas due to line play and defensive issues in Dallas.
Quick Hits:
- Quarterbacks Against the Spread Leaders: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts lead the way. Hurts gets special accolades for reliably converting the “brotherly shove.” (47:40)
- Arch Manning’s Hype and Criticism: A.J. McCarron reflects on unreachable expectations for Arch due to his surname and modern social media scrutiny, but Colin counters that hype comes with the territory.
- “If you can't handle being under or overhyped, get out of the quarterback position...part of the growth is media criticism and how you handle it.” (49:15)
Life Lessons from the Micah Parsons Trade
(01:07:50)
- Micah Parsons, despite wanting to remain a Cowboy, lands in a better football environment with the Packers — better management, quarterback, and culture.
- Colin closes the thought with:
“Don’t hold on to your childhood dreams too tightly. Seek excellence…This is a great spot for him.” (01:09:00)
Deion Sanders as Colorado’s “Perfect Fit”
(01:13:10)
- Dion is great for Colorado’s visibility, sales, and “juice,” but Colin notes that “he’s not an elite coach” and the team is simply average.
- “What he sought is what he got: control, relevance, juice and energy. And that's as good as Colorado is going to do.” (01:16:19)
Timestamps for Key Segments
| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Jerry Jones: Cowboys Hope & Decline | 06:00-16:00 | | Bill Belichick Legacy in Question | 16:00-23:00 | | Charles Barkley’s Take on NBA & Colin’s Rebuttal | 25:30-38:00 | | NFL Hope-o-Meter / Steelers & Ownership | 41:50-48:30 | | Week 1 NFL Betting Breakdown | 51:00-60:00 | | QBs Against the Spread / Jalen Hurts Praise | 47:40-49:00 | | Arch Manning Hype & Criticism | 49:00-50:30 | | Micah Parsons Life Lesson | 01:07:50-01:09:30 | | Deion Sanders at Colorado | 01:13:10-01:16:30 |
Most Memorable Quotes
- “Jerry’s become old Al Davis with the Raiders. He keeps trying to sell the fans something and they're not buying.” – Colin (09:15)
- “Without Brady…he won 44% of his games. He averages 19 points a game.” – Colin (19:40)
- “There is something about what I'm watching. It's got a Bobby Knight feel, the late Bobby Knight, that so many people told Bill how brilliant he was, he bought the sauce.” – Colin (21:40)
- “Always choose better teammates, always choose better bosses, always choose better environments. Even the great ones can't overcome dysfunction.” – Colin (34:25)
- “If you can't handle being under or overhyped, get out of the quarterback position...Part of the growth is media criticism and how you handle it.” – Colin (49:15)
- “Don’t hold on to your childhood dreams too tightly. Seek excellence.” – Colin (01:09:00)
Tone and Style
Colin’s analysis is direct, opinionated, and rooted in sports history, with a wry sense of humor and frequent analogies. He challenges conventional wisdom, calls out poor ownership, and is unafraid to critique icons while also crediting achievement and offering personal/professional advice relevant beyond sports.
Useful For:
Anyone interested in the intersection of sports performance, franchise leadership, and sports media narratives—especially those seeking sharp, critical, but accessible commentary for sports debate and watercooler talking points.
