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Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FS. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Thursday. Welcome in. It's the Herd. You gotta play hurt man. You're not always at 100%. Nobody cares. No tear shed. We're live. We're in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be watching or listening, thanks for making us part of your day. So you were at the Spurs Lakers game last night. Lakers win. Close. Late years and years ago. This was probably 20 years ago, I was talking to an NBA exec. I was court side of a game and I got there early. Did you get there early last night? Not. Not early enough. All right. So you get there really early, an hour and a half before and like people come by and he said something to me and, and it's what. How I want to start my show. Stars in the NBA, in basketball, it's not like baseball. They don't have slumps. They can have a bad quarter. But guys like Luka are always going to get theirs. The late Kobe, Wilt, Jerry wet. It doesn't matter. Stars get theirs. Great coaching is taking a B minus player and making him a B plus player. Taking a C plus player and making him a B Player, you're not going to turn brody James into LeBron James. You're not going to jump a grade and a half. But that's what JJ Redick did and he's doing this year. Rui Hachimura is a good B player. He's playing like an A player. He's shooting 60% from the field. He's shooting 47% from three. That's an A player career high in scoring. Now it's early in the NBA season where even the Chicago Bulls are winning, right? Like nobody's playing defense now. But the two biggest plays in last night's game could have been Rui took a big charge, hit a big three. That is what JJ Redick is doing. So last night you didn't have LeBron, you didn't have Austin Reaves. Couple nights ago you didn't have Luka. So it's mix and match. But he's doing a great job, especially on offense to squeeze the juice out of his mid level players like for instance deandre Ayton, who they're, they got for free, basically Portland, Spanish salary. Deandre Ayton's hot and cold. He's played very well. The best he's played. The lakers lead the NBA and field goal percentage, they're 5 and oh in close games. Yet Luka's one of the top two to three players in the world. And skinny jeans. Luka is unstoppable. Rebounds, assists, points, put backs. He's going to get his. Kobe always got his. But can you take those B guys? Go back to Phil Jackson, what he got out of a Rick Fox or a Derek Fisherman, that's the key to this stuff. What do you get out of your number four starter? I mean just last week Austin Reaves looked like Luca and I think that's what I watch with JJ Redick, that in basketball the top 10 global stars are just going to always get theirs. Can you squeeze stuff out of the B minus guys? And this year, if you look at the last two seasons because now the culture's been built by J.J. redick, all without LeBron James. This year, six points a game more. And the new pieces, old Marcus Smart, veteran deandre Ayton, the young kid Jake Laravia, they're all playing the best they've played right now they're all playing excellent basketball. And the Lakers are not a good defensive team. They don't have a great defensive rim protector. They're not super athletic on the wing. But Wemby fouled out last night. Wemby shoots 35% from the floor. They impose their will on Wemby and it was a very impressive effort. He's not going to have many games as ugly and inartistic as last night. So what I see right now, I see coaching. I see JJ Redick taking his C plus and B minus guys and moving them up half a grade. That was always, always Phil Jackson. Kobe would have been great, Michael would have been great with or without Phil Jackson. But it was Phil's ability to build Steve Kerr into a trustable component alongside Michael Jordan to get the most out of marginally talented bigs. That's always been Phil Jackson's greatest asset. That's what J.J. ruddock does and they're doing it without LeBron and it's what championship teams do. It's what Dave Roberts did with Miguel Rojas for the Dodgers. Ohtani is eventually going to get his. Eventually. Freddie Freeman's going to get his. Can you take the B guys and make them B plus guys? And JJ Red talks about the win and his current culture. Sometimes the things you emphasize and the things that make that you make a daily priority becomes your team. And that doesn't always happen. But that was a priority for us coming into this season. We're just constantly encouraging and empowering our guys to get connected. I believe that if you're connected off the floor, you're connected on the floor. I gotta tell you, the city of Los Angeles has really good coaches. McVeigh and Harbaugh, JJ Redick, Dave Roberts, I mean it's pretty remarkable. There's some, even our college coaches out here. If you look at the Lakers right now, and again, it's early. Nobody plays defense in October and November in the NBA, they really don't. A lot of teams are out of their mind shooting really high percentages. But in a very crowded west, remember long stretches, LeBron hasn't played. Austin Reeves is out now, Lucas missed games. It's what he's doing with Ayton, it's what he's doing with Smart, it's what he's doing with these kind of B minus, C plus. Rui right now is playing the best basketball of his career. Rui's a nice player. He's not this nice. But give JJ Redick a lot of credit for that. Okay, I was here on Tuesday, sick yesterday and Tuesday was the trade deadline show. And, and, and, and I'll say this, I've been very critical of the Dallas Cowboys for a long time, but I am in total disagreement. I watched a little of shows yesterday. I'M in total disagreement with virtually every other media member on what the Cowboys did with Micah and these moves to get Quinn and Williams. So one of the things I liked about the Mica move, it created liquidation and flexibility and diversification. They were going to be too top heavy and Jerry Jones is a deal maker and if they signed Luca between cd, Lamb and Dak, they just have no flexibility, no diversification. They'd be top heavy. So I think one of the things that's being overlooked that the Cowboys did in this deal to get Quinn and Williams, they retained, they kept both number one picks in this coming draft in April. That's a big deal. They gave up a first, the draft after because this draft has two things that benefit the Cowboys. Tons of good edge rushers. Now with Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams, interior linemen that are way above average. One of them's a star. They'll go get an edge rusher to add to that. The second thing they have is a quarterback in a quarterback rich draft where eight teams are desperate for one. So those picks they give up to the jets, they can get those back with the flexibility and diversification of two first round picks and what you can do with it. And so the draft has an edge rusher replace Micah and quarterbacks don't need move down that pick. So that's what I love. The second thing is Dallas is saying, and I totally agree with him by acquiring Quinn and Williams and Kenny Clark, what they're telling you is they view interior defensive linemen as more valuable than edge rushers. And I'm here to tell you I totally agree. The New England Patriots this year spent money on interior defensive line number one rush defense in the NFL. You know who else has a really good interior defensive line? Spends money on it? The Colts top five run defense. Here are the teams that have excellent interior defensive linemen. Tampa, Seattle, Denver, Colts, Patriots, Rams, Eagles. That's a different body type. Edge rushers are like wide receivers. You can find tall guys, great athletes, six, four and a half, six five and a half that can catch the football or rush a passer. It is incredibly rare to find somebody who's 6, 2, 3, 20 with good feet. That's what Quinn and Williams has. Okay, so Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams give you like, I mean what's the strength of Philadelphia this year? Why can't the Rams beat Philadelphia? Because they can't block Davis and the kid out of Georgia. They can't block those two interior Carter. They can't block them. That's why they Lost this year against Philly. It's why they lost in the playoffs last year. They're struggling to block those guys. So Dallas has said, we love Micah, but we'll take flexibility and interior D line over an expensive edge rusher. Julian Edelman was on my show on Tuesday and he talked about this during the Patriots dynasty. Brady gets credit, Gronk gets credit. Belichick gets credit. He said, it's the interior D line. We wouldn't have been the New England Patriots if it wasn't for Seymour or Will Fork like we had. And there's. And there's a bunch of other guys, Branch and. And there's a bunch of guys. But the interior part, if you got a guy that can take away two gaps, that's tough on the run game. And once you start to make a team one dimensional and they can't run the football, then you can dial up better, you know, coverage for your secondary and you can get more creative. Yeah. And I. Everybody's like, oh, Dallas is making bad moves. What they did is they said, we don't want to be top heavy with salaries. We want more flexibility. Go ask any great business person what they want. It's not just assets. It's the ability to acquire them or move off them. They want flexibility. Dallas couldn't afford a running back, Derrick Henry for $8 million two years ago. Jerry's an entrepreneur. Jerry's a businessman. His hands were tied. He didn't. He wanted flexibility, the ability to diversify. And then they moved their importance on defense from the edge inside. Every executive I talked to, they always talk about rare skills, rare body types. Seattle, The GM John Snyder just went and got a deep threat receiver for Sam Darnold. Why? How many people on the planet run a 42840, a 43240? Not many. So Quinn and Williams is a unique body type. Chris Jones. I'm not saying Miles Garrett isn't a great edge rusher, but you can move Chris Jones all over the defensive line. And I'm not saying Max Crosby's not amazing, but when you can get that great left tackle that, that receiver that runs a four two nine, that interior defensive lineman with good feet, it's just more valuable than an edge rusher. So I like what Dallas has done. LeBron James still not playing. Apparently he's getting closer to playing. Ramping up to 5 on 5. Should be back by Thanksgiving. It's going to be interesting to see how he meshes. Colin, the Lakers vibes are amazing right now. Everybody understands Luca is The fulcrum of the team. Yes. Reeves is secondary and we all operate around him and I think the Delta Delta between LeBron and Luca will grow like it the last couple years like last year. Overweight, still healing. Luke and LeBron just depended on the night. Some nights it was LeBron, some nights it was Luca. This is Lucas team by a significant stretch. Does it feel like a guy who was the man in high school goes off to college, a new guy takes over the high school team and the guy comes back from college and is like, oh, things have changed here. It feels like everybody's catering to Luka, which I don't have a problem with it. Just how does LeBron fit in to that offense? It could be clunky or he's a professional and says hey, I got LeBron's always been better on ball than off because he still remains a streaky shooter. Yeah. And so Luka can do both but he is the best on ball player they have. So I want Luka. I said this before in the off season. I said the gap between Lebron and Luka is going to be noticeable this year. I think Luka has a chance to an mvp. If Wemby doesn't, I think Luke is going to jump over the sgas the Giannis is this year it's going to be a Jokic Wemby Luca season in the NBA. I still don't think they're good enough defensively and you can't take too much from November NBA basketball. Nobody's locked in defensively yet. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from 7 to 10pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. That's right, you can now watch the Odd couple live on YouTube every day. All you got to do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube again. YouTube just search Odd Couple FSR. 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I think LeBron's smart enough to know the torch has been passed in la, and this has always been. The Lakers have always been a pass the torch organization, right? Like Kareem to Magic to Shaq to Kobe to LeBron. And it's clearly been passed not only in ownership, from the Bus family to the Dodgers owners, but now it's Lucas team. And the lakers don't need LeBron to sell tickets, just like they didn't need Kareem to sell tickets, just like eventually they found out they didn't need Shaq to sell tickets. There's always somebody in LA making a debut and they're in Los Angeles. The stars are almost all young and ascending. Your Ohtani's and your Yoshis and your Justin Herbert's and your Puka Nakuas and your Lucas, they're all young and ascending with very few exceptions. I also feel like the league has a little bit of LeBron fatigue. I also feel like LeBron was never in Los Angeles nearly as popular as Magic. I think he's like, he's in the Kareem popularity more than the Kobe or the Magic. So, you know my takeaway in all this? LeBron's got to fall in line or leave. This is not Cleveland and it's not even Miami. So it's a patch that pass the torch city. And when I look at LeBron right now, are his feelings getting hurt a little bit? Does he feel like he should have been offered a contract extension because LA welcomed LeBron? They didn't worship him. Sorry. In my, in my lifetime, Magic's the most popular Laker of all time. Kobe's the second most popular Laker of all time. There's an argument. Jerry west was the third most popular Laker of all time. LeBron's not. And you got to remember for rich, Paul and LeBron. And again, maybe they, maybe they aren't in their fields. But LeBron, do you realize the Lakers in his entire career, this is the longest he's ever been in one team for a concurrent stretch the Lakers. So he's been an interloper and signed one year deals for most of his career. So nobody's going to lose any sleep if they're a little less loyal to LeBron than LeBron wants. He may understand all of this, he may get absolutely all of this. But my take is on this is you can feel it. LeBron is going to have to play off ball. It is Luca's team. It is JJ Redick's vision for most of LeBron's career. I always said this. Kevin Durant could play anywhere. You can get him the ball late in the shot clock. He can hit shots. Steph Curry and LeBron become your offensive ecosystem. Golden State has discovered young guys don't work with Steph Curry. It's just too hard. It's just too quick, too smart, too fast. That's why Steph works with older players really, really well. Immediately with kd, always with Draymond, quickly with Andrew Bogut, young guys he struggles with. And LeBron, he has been the centerpiece. He's very opposite of KD. He, he becomes your offensive ecosystem and it's over it. That is done. You cannot coach this organization going forward with LeBron being a centerpiece. He's just an asset. And there are nights that Austin Reeves needs the ball and has a mismatch advantage. Charles Barkley was on Jim Rome show and just talked about older LeBron. Father Time always going to win. There's nothing you can do about it. You know, I joked on the show a couple of weeks ago, they had, they said sciatica. They could have just wrote old. It's the exact same thing. All old people back hurt. You know, he's got to accept. I hope he leaves sooner than later. Obviously LeBron's a better player than me, but I don't want to see great players just hanging on. That's right. Charles Barkley nailed it. You don't want to see old guys just hanging on. I don't have a problem with LeBron being here, but an extension, these new owners, I don't know, I, in fact, I would argue I would take an Austin Reeves extension. And you know how I feel about that over a LeBron extension. Say what you want about Austin Reeves, but if you can keep him around. Luke is your one, Austin's your three, and then you go find a two. That feels like a championship level team. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd line news. This is me biting my tongue. All right, let's get started with the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin, come on. They are coming off a buy and have a huge game against the Packers Monday night. Packers not in the Herd hierarchy yet favored over the number one Eagles. Everybody likes Green Bay in this spot, right? Everybody does, including me. Let's talk about Jalen Hurts, though. He was interestingly tied for first in the NFL with six completions of 40 yards and second M homes with 11 completions of 30 plus air yards. Here's OC Kevin Patulo talking about hurts. Beautiful deep ball accuracy. He's unbelievable at it. Like, he does a tremendous job of understanding where to place the ball, seeing the coverage, knowing how to put it in a spot to where it's, you know, our guy or nobody. And he really works at it. You know, if you watch, I know you guys aren't down there the whole time when you watch practice. I mean, he works at it in between periods during the period, like constantly. He's talking to the guys, here's where it's going to be, here's what I'm going to do. So I think it's those little extra things. Yeah, packers and Eagles is really interesting. Top, top three game of the weekend. Niners, Rams is phenomenal. But to Jalen hurts deep ball accuracy. So, you know, because he wasn't a first round pick, because he's not 65 and strapping because he had to transfer in college, he doesn't get the respect I think that he deserves. And all he does every year is check off another box of hey, you say I can't do this. Okay, here we go. Colin, he's one of the best deep ball throwers in the league this season, period. Yeah, I know he may not throw the best ball, but the numbers say, man, he's hell out of here. He adds things. There are things throwing over the middle he's not great at. But he adds, there are certain virtues he has with his strength, his mobility, his toughness, his maturity. I've said this before. Philadelphia is a loud sports city and there is value in having an adult be your quarterback, right? You've got to be able to deal with talk radio and the anger. And they got their security guy in Sirianni's. I've said this about. He reminds me of Philadelphia's version of Dak is that you have to deal with Jerry and an aggressive Dallas media and you're the centerpiece of the league. The things that Jalen doesn't do have not hurt him much so far in his career. I don't think he throws the ball over the middle like Matt Stafford does or Mahomes does, but his strength, his kind of dexterity as an athlete, his maturity are the intangibles that I think make him sort of dak. I mean, if I say if you're building like a perfect quarterback and you're taking parts from all these quarterbacks, I don't see why just Jalen hurts wouldn't be like almost ideally the perfect quarterback. He's got the strong legs, but. But think he has thrown for under 200 yards four times this year. They've won all four games. So it's not a criticism to say he is not Josh Allen. He doesn't have that size or skill set. What he does, though, he is a great fit on a physical, power running team. When he throws under 200. If I told you Yamaha throws for under 200, you're like, oh, Kansas City's in trouble. If I told you Philadelphia hurts, did you be like, perfect? That's how they should play. So that's telling you what the talent disparity. He does have one thing over Josh Allen. He has a victory over the Chiefs in the postseason. Allen has not been able to pull that off. Obviously, the super bowl win. All right, let's move on. Detroit Lions. Colin, I'm still smarting from that loss to the Vikings. One of the bigger surprises in recent weeks. They play a beat up commander's team, but I don't know if you've seen the injury report. Lions themselves walking wounded. Here's Jared Goff saying Detroit will have a little extra motivation after last season's divisional round loss to Washington. That's definitely part of it. Absolutely. I think, you know, more than that. We want to, you know, get off of a losing streak here and get a W. And certainly you're. You're thinking about that, but I think, you know, it's how many games ago? Nine games ago now. So, yeah, we're trying to get a win this year and maybe use that as a little added motivation if we need it. So three starters on the offensive line did not practice yesterday. Their tackles are both banged up. That was Wednesday. It's Wednesday. It's early. We'll see what happens. But the line has come down. This was eight and a half and now seven and a half. Colin. Yeah, I know. Washington stinks. Dan Campbell, 12 and oh, against the spread after a loss. I cannot take Washington Here, can you. No. The Lions are one of my favorite plays. I hope the line keeps coming down. So I also think the Lions lost a home game where they rarely lose. So you're going to get a great week of practice. Meanwhile, Washington and all the trade deadline rumors, I think it's a. Is there a whiff of quit here? I don't know if it's quit, but not all locker rooms are the same by November. Like there's a lot, I mean like right now, the jets, you know that, that, that's hard to motivate a team when the ownership and the front office doesn't appear to care about this season. So I think, you know, the Jaden Daniels thing, Marcus Mariota can have stretches, but it feels like Detroit's the play here. Yeah, I'm kind of with you outdoors. I need to check the weather, make sure it's not sloppy. But then again, Washington can't stop the run anyway. They're just not good. Final story, let's go to your Chicago Bears. Coming off that win over the Bengals and now hosting the Giants today, creep it up a little bit. Caleb Williams had a solid game against the Bengals. I mean hell, everyone does. Caleb threw for 280 and three touchdowns. Here's Ben Johnson gassing up his quarterback. Some weeks are better than others which, which we knew but he's a lot better place now with his process than he was to start the season. You know, that whole the week isn't necessarily smooth sailing all always but I think that's to be expected with year one in a new system. So he's learning and he spent a lot of time at it. So I'm very pleased with his approach and I think we've got the right group of guys around him to help support him. And so I think we're continue to see him take off here second half of the season. What I am hearing off the air when I text people around the league, everybody loves Ben Johnson. Yeah, everybody thinks the Bears got the next great young coach. There's still a lot of doubt. Despite leading the NFL in big plays offensively, there are still a lot of doubts with Caleb. People, old school NFL guys, older executives just don't think it looks as tight as it should look. And my take, I talked about Cam Newton. I think he's a. There's a lot of Cam Newton. Cam Newton's mechanics would drive you crazy. Cam playing in structure would drive you crazy. Cam's inconsistency, he never had back to back winning seasons. But you couldn't Deny Cam's talent. You can't deny Caleb's talent. And I actually think that win Sunday, that throw, you know, he had a couple of plays that I just don't think. I think 90% of the league doesn't make. So I don't know. I. It's not going to look like a lot of other guys look but I also think there's a confidence with his teammates. I really like Chicago's coaching their personnel and I think not that Caleb's along for a ride but he's not going to play like a lot of guys playing. You just have to come to terms with it. It is only eight games with Ben Johnson I was just looking up. So Cam Newton had basically the same head coach Ron Rivera for like almost his entire tenure in Carolina. Yeah, Caleb, year two, new coach, new system, new everything. I mean so I'm giving him some time. I'm with you. I don't think he's looked amazing but who cares? They're winning and it has a lot to do with the run game. You know I got to say his name eventually. Kyle Manangai. He's a little banged up. Deandre swift, banged up. D.J. moore missed practice. Adunze missed practice. So I'm a little concerned again it's only today Thursday but I think I like the Bears here. Agree J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd line news. I will say this. During the trade deadline, you know the jets was a flea market. They were selling everything. Dallas comes in, the Colts come in. Buffalo didn't do anything and their GM Brandon Bean said, you know, I went home as mad as everybody else. Pump the brakes on criticizing Buffalo. If you look at the AFC playoff standings just, just take a look at the teams they could possibly play. They could play the Indianapolis Colts whose quarterback nobody really believes in. The number two seed is New England where Drake May has not played two complete seasons. The number three seed is Denver who appears to only play one way, dominating the fourth quarter. Number four is Aaron Rodgers, a 41 year old quarterback. Number six is Justin Herbert, missing both offensive tackles the rest of the way. Number seven is the Jags nobody trusts. So there's a real, there's a real first of all, the AFC championship over the last six, seven years has been played at Arrowhead. That's not happening. So this is easily at this point in a season the most favorable route for Josh Allen. I think their bigger issue is that Keon Coleman, the wide receiver, shocker and other wide Receivers really immature. He's shown up late, he's not been dependable. So, you know, it's year two for him. You hope he matures. But you know, their tight end group is excellent. Best running back. Josh has had O lines better than average. Josh is in his prime. I don't think it's the end of the world that they didn't make a big move. Just go look at the AFC right now. It's average quarterbacks. It's quarterbacks you don't trust. It's a lot of guys. So I, you know, a lot of times the barrier to a championship isn't you, it's your rival. I mean, Phil Mickelson wasn't Phil Mickelson's worst enemy. He had to go through Tiger in his prime. Right. That, that was always Utah Jazz were good enough to be a championship team. It was Jordan and Pippen. So I look at Buffalo. Buffalo has lost close games to the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead in the postseason. They may lose again. It's not going to be at Arrowhead. I, I mean, there's no burrow this year. Lamar right now is not a playoff quarterback. So if you were a Bills fan and everybody's freaking out, they didn't make a trade at the trade deadline. Well, don't, don't throw around bad money. It's right now. If you looked at who's in the playoffs, I would take the Bills to win. And I didn't say that last year. Well, maybe I said it last year. I didn't say it the year before. Look at who they're playing. You trust the Colts, the young Patriots, Bo Nixon, Denver old Aaron Herbert with no tackles who trust the Jaguars ever. So I think they're fine. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age. Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo. His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so. Does that sound like a radical idea? Is that too far left for you? Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown. Not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party. To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues. 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It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in. Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey y', all, it's me, your man, MG Marcus Grant and I'm Michael F. Florio. And I'm Laquan Jones. If you're looking to win your fantasy football league, you need to tune in to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's right there in the name. Every week, Florio, LQ and I bring you the latest news from around the league. We break down every matchup, give you our analysis and advice so you know who to start, sit, drop and trade to bring that championship trophy home. I just want to remind everyone how good Rasheed Rice was last season. In these three healthy games he was the wide receiver. Two in fantasy I think Rasheed Rice just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip pass to Rice near side Touchdown. Ramondre Stevens is my sleeper this week. This is a matchup where I think I can stop slide in Stevenson in my flex position and he could deliver double digit points this week. Drake takes the snap, hands it off for moderate running it right and running into the end zone. Touchdown. It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Greg Rosenthal, host of NFL Daily. No matter the day, NFL Daily has fresh content in your feedback. Last week's games, we recapped them. The unexpected happened in so many of these games and and I love it. This week was like the defensive line stepping in, getting a stop on 4th and goal. Get the the old mo back on your side. It was a lot of good defensive stops, including in the game of the day, this week's games we previewed him. He is the best quarterback in the league this year. He reminds me a little bit of Tom Brady in his later years and this is a compliment. He's no longer hanging in quite as much to take those big hits because he's playing the long game. They're not going to get pressure on him. I news flash, it's not going to happen. I think they smoke him and so much more. For all you football sickos, listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Fox College Football Friday is under the lights in primetime. Tomorrow, jaden Mava leads 19th ranked US and one of the nation's best offenses against Northwestern tomorrow night at 9pm Eastern, 6pm Pacific on Fox. Trojans about ready to go on a roll. We talked with Clyde about that yesterday. You know they got a, they got a shot at the playoff. Well, they're going to beat Northwestern and Iowa, but Then they have to go to Eugene. So good luck Indiana won there. Why can't usc? Well, in USC is not as good as Indiana, that's why. So you see this sometimes where a great actor has a role. You know, Tom Hanks does the terminal. He makes a bad choice. You see great regress. Marlon Brando had bombs. You see a Zagat Michelin star restaurant, a chef leaves. It's good, but it's not special. You see great slowly sometimes kind of regress into good. You very rarely see Hot dog on a Stick become Zagat rated. You don't see, you know, atrocious, become exceptional. Like, it just doesn't happen, especially in sports. So Sam Darnold was so bad in New York, I was like, I don't know what happened. I thought he was going to be sort of a little bit of Andrew Luck his last two years. He is now with all analytics, the best quarterback in the NFL. No, I mean, and they just added Rashid Shahid, a deep threat. So now he's got a deep threat. Jsn, that rookie from Colorado State, the O lines better. He's literally gone from unplayable to best guy in the league. And I was saying, if you just count quarterbacks that have played, you know, every game this year, you can't, you can't count Lamar Jackson in this. What is the quarterback pyramid based just on this year alone for quarterback play? What does it look like? And this is what it looks like. Sorry for the radio audience. We have a little Collins quarterback performance, period. Darnold's number one. Allen and Stafford right below him. Drake May, Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Mahomes, Jones, Prescott and Goff. Now that's not necessarily that far from reality. Now if you're, you're talking careers, Mahomes would be at the top. But if you're talking today, this second, Sam Darnold is the best quarterback in the NFL. It is unbelievable. You just don't see that ever. You could say, well, what about Baker? Baker and Cleveland won a playoff game. And the year he did, his quarterback rating was, I think it was 96 or 98. I think it was 96. Sam's passer rating in New York was not even good for a backup. He had more turnovers and touchdowns. Like, forget the winning. Wasn't productive. It was awful. And we know now that everybody's awful with the jets, but what he is doing is incredibly rare. So Bill Belichick was on a podcast yesterday, and I've said this multiple times on the show, the hottest quarterback in the league Outside of Sam Darnold is probably Matt Stafford. And I've said before, where you land in the NFL matters a lot. If Stafford would have landed in Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers, who can be moody, would have landed in Detroit, we would look at Stafford differently. Stafford was better than Aaron Rodgers in high school, in college, and he's better now by a long shot. And he was better in the first three or four years in the NFL than Rodgers. But Aaron had that 10, 11 year run in green Bay because he had a really good organization. And it's going to be fascinating to see what if Matt Stafford wins this year's Super Bowl. And right now I think they're the best team or second best team in the league, right? What happens. Bill Belichick was on a recent podcast talking about this Matt Stafford. I don't want to put him in a class with Tom, but I mean it's reminiscent of Brady where it just keeps getting better and better and better. I remember when we practiced against him and played him several years ago, gotten smarter, he understands more. He knows how to use weapons just a split second quicker. He's a little harder to fool and something you might have got him with a couple years ago, you're not going to get him with now. What's really cruel about quarterback is by the time you master it, you're usually like 33, 34, 35. That's when Brady started saying things to like Jay Glazer, like, I've seen everything. You can't fool me. Brady talked about a Super bowl against Patrick Mahomes. He's like, I knew what the Chiefs defense was going to do better than the Chiefs defense knew what they were going to do. And so, but Brady had a great advantage. He had the best offensive line coach probably ever, Dante Scarnecchia. So Brady just didn't get hit for most of his career. So Brady at 44 had a 34 year old body. That's not the case with Stafford, who got the you know what beat out of him for 12 years in Detroit. So he's 37 and he looks 37 with a really bad back. But I've asked the question before if he wins a Super bowl this year. I mean he's already all time completions, 8th yards, 9th passing touchdowns, 9th game winning, drives 5th and wins. He's moving up fast. So there's just not many quarterbacks in the history of the league that have two Super Bowls and an mvp. It's Mahomes, Brady, Manning, Elway, Montana Bradshaw and Bart Starr. So there's only one quarterback in this league that can go from really, really great to historic. This is it. Quarterbacks with two super bowl wins and an MVP at least one. It's all the legends. Mahomes, Peyton, Tom Elway, Montana Bradshaw, Bart Starr. Stafford can get into that group. And so his last five games, 16 touchdowns, no picks. He is just on an absolute heater. The question, and he's done this. What's amazing is no training camp. He learned on the fly with Devonte Adams. So what's really impressive, you know, an undrafted left tackle learned on the fly with Devonte Adams, did not participate to any extent in preseason. And proving once again what Sean McVeigh always felt is the exhibition season is a lot of nonsense. It doesn't really matter. But I, I, I, I, you and I J Mac, you've actually been on this forever. Where you land in the NFL is about 75% of your success as a quarterback. I mean, a great example is Caleb Williams with that outfit. Last year, everybody bailed on him. This year, the bears lead the NFL in big plays. So the gap in coaching, obviously McVeigh is better than anybody Detroit had. But here, here was Max Crosby of the Raiders recently talking about Stafford as a potential MVP for some reason, just because they their team wasn't the best. Like, he didn't get that love until he went to the Rams. Now people are like, see, I'm like, bro, he's been doing that for 10 years in Detroit. It would be dope to see Stafford when mvp, because people are like, well, is he a Hall of Famer? I'm like, he's been top five for 15 years. I don't give a what anyone says. Can we have this conversation? I don't give a what anyone says. Oh, that's absolutely true. I mean, think about this. Think how much trust that Sean McVay had to have to not only trade away a Super bowl quarterback in golf, but be willing to pay for Stafford and Goff simultaneously. So Sean McVeigh knows more football than you or me. Sean McVeigh's like, yeah, I'm going to move off golf. Who, by the way, has been a top 12 quarterback for most of his career. Say, I'll move off him. I'll take an old staffer that's never won a playoff game and I'll pay for both. That is having. There are certain people in baseballs like this a lot, where you go ask baseball players who's really good, who's a bit of a fraud, and they'll Be like, oh, no, this guy's actually great. Everybody understands it. You go ask pro football players about Matt Stafford. They're all like, Matt Crosby. They're like, bro, that guy's been a top five quarterback for 15 years. He just got crappy Detroit. So it's, it's, it's. And the great thing about him, he is a film room junkie. His wife makes more news than he does. He's never in the news. He's kind of a regular guy. You know, you'll see him golfing occasionally in town at one of the country clubs, but he really is low key, very chill. But he's the only quarterback in the league that can can join a very go from great to historic this year. Yeah, I mean, I would say he's certainly in the MVP discussion now. Getting Devonte Adams clearly helps. Oh, no question. A major upgrade. I mean, they Cooper cup was like one of their core guys. He was beloved down here. They moved off him pretty easily. Yeah. What has he done in Seattle, Colin? Like next to nothing. And they upgraded. Well, he's our four now in Seattle. Yeah. Yeah. They had young receivers. Snyder said, we'll bring an old veteran possession guy in, but I'll say if Cooper Cups you're four, that's not a bad receiving. But McVeigh's. McVeigh's done a great job with Snead and company. Just constantly retooling the team. Yeah. All right. Greg Cosell. It is a Thursday. It's my favorite 15 minutes of the week. One down here comes hour two. It is Thursday. It's the herd. Today's episode brought to you by a scent that's made a legendary comeback. Degree Original. Cool Rush. The OG Is back and better than ever. Cool Rush isn't just a scent. It's a movement kind of fragrance. Guys remember, ask for by name and rave about online. It's bold. 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You get Desi Arnaz on the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama. I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life, how he redefined American television and what destroyed that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like ours on screen. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer valderrama on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Rejorn. And this week on our podcast Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus the Miami Chief stops by. If you're not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me. Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster. No way. Bring back the ostrichon. Listen to Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City or just the Internet stand. 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Air Date: November 6, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Podcast by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
In this episode, Colin Cowherd focuses on three central topics: the Los Angeles Lakers’ early NBA season success under JJ Redick, an in-depth discussion of the Dallas Cowboys’ NFL roster management, and observations about the evolving roles of superstars in team dynamics, especially regarding LeBron James and the passing of the torch. The hour is filled with Cowherd’s signature blend of opinions, anecdotes, and analysis, touching on coaching philosophy, sports business, and player development.
[03:00–13:35]
Redick’s Impact on Role Players:
Cowherd highlights how first-year head coach JJ Redick is elevating the games of the Lakers’ midtier players, especially in the absence of stars like LeBron James and Austin Reaves. Examples include Rui Hachimura, now shooting 60% from the field and 47% from three.
Squeezing Value from the Roster:
The Lakers currently lead the NBA in field goal percentage and are undefeated in close games (5–0), feats Colin attributes largely to Redick’s ability to “squeeze the juice out of his mid-level players.”
Team Culture & Connection:
Redick is quoted explaining his emphasis on off-court connection translating into on-court performance.
Assessment of Defensive Shortcomings:
Colin points out the Lakers are not a strong defensive team but still control games through coaching, citing the way they limited Wembanyama (“Wemby”) to just 35% shooting.
[38:00–44:00]
Passing the Torch to Luka:
The conversation shifts to LeBron James’s return to play and how the Lakers’ team leadership is clearly moving toward Luka (Doncic), with LeBron no longer the focal point.
The Reality of Superstars Aging:
Colin addresses speculation about LeBron’s feelings and contract situation. He contends that the Lakers—and the city of LA—have never truly “worshipped” LeBron the way they did Magic or Kobe.
Charles Barkley's Perspective:
Referencing Charles Barkley, Colin underscores the importance of recognizing when legendary players are no longer centerpiece material.
[14:20–28:35]
Contrarian Support of Dallas’ Moves:
Amid media criticism, Cowherd strongly defends Jerry Jones’ handling of Micah Parsons and acquisition of Quinnen Williams and Kenny Clark, praising the resultant “flexibility and diversification” on the Cowboys’ roster.
Valuing Interior Defensive Linemen:
Noting a NFL trend (citing Patriots, Colts, Eagles, Rams), Colin argues dominant interior linemen are rarer and, at this stage, more valuable than edge rushers.
Julian Edelman’s Insight:
Edelman is quoted reinforcing the immense value of top-tier defensive tackles in championship teams.
Dallas’ Path Forward:
Colin lauds the Cowboys for protecting two 1st-round picks in a draft deep with edge rushers and QBs, maintaining options for future team-building.
[44:30–54:20]
Philadelphia Eagles’ Jalen Hurts:
Discussion of Hurts’ deep ball accuracy, maturity, and the intangibles that make him a great fit for loud, high-pressure sports cities.
Detroit Lions Motivation & Injuries:
Jared Goff talks about using a previous playoff loss for motivation.
Chicago Bears & Caleb Williams:
Cowherd compares Caleb Williams to Cam Newton—brilliant, unorthodox, but potentially inconsistent; he praises coach Ben Johnson as a rising star.
[60:00–67:55]
Stafford’s Career Arc:
Colin explores Matthew Stafford’s rise from “unplayable to the best quarterback in the NFL” this season, aided by better context and coaching under Sean McVay.
Landing Spot Matters:
Colin and J. Mac discuss how organizational quality significantly impacts a quarterback’s legacy, using Stafford vs. Rodgers as a primary example.
Praise from Bill Belichick & Maxx Crosby:
On JJ Redick’s Coaching:
“Can you take those B guys? ... that's the key to this stuff.” — Colin [06:10]
On LeBron’s Evolving Place in LA Sports:
“Sorry. In my lifetime, Magic's the most popular Laker of all time. Kobe's the second. There's an argument Jerry West was third ... LeBron's not." — Colin [40:45]
On Roster-Building & Value:
“Go ask any great business person what they want. It's not JUST assets. It's the ability to acquire them or move off them. They want flexibility.” — Colin [27:10]
On Caleb Williams:
“I actually think that win Sunday, that throw ... 90% of the league doesn't make.” — Colin [51:55]
On Stafford’s Legacy:
“He's the only quarterback in the league that can go from really, really great to historic this year ... He's been top five for 15 years, I don't give a what anyone says.” — Maxx Crosby [67:40]
Colin Cowherd’s tone is conversational, direct, and opinionated, blending statistical analysis with big-picture thinking and a touch of wry humor. The discussion is quick-moving but rooted in clear, real-world sports references and practical analogies. The listener gets both data points and memorable narratives.