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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 1 - Lions bounce back, Cowboys have a problem with George Pickens, why you don't want athletes trending
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Here we go. Capping off the week with a Friday before a huge college football weekend. The weirdest blazing five in the history of blazing fives. In one hour from now.
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Detroit delivered. I mean it was a wild shootout. 37:30 With 2 minutes 30 seconds left, the track meet by the Detroit Lions. So let's talk about that. I like Dallas last night, but it was pretty clear by the middle of the second quarter that Detroit found their rhythm. This felt like the Ben Johnson, offensive coordinator for The Lions. Lions 7.2 yards of play. They have crazy offensive talent. They have two running backs. I like two wide receivers that are stars. They always get an offensive line push and it's a well constructed roster. David Montgomery the bruiser, Jameer Gibbs the home run hitter. Omaron St. Brown, the volume receiver. Jameson Williams, acceleration guy, speed guy. They can be physical or finesse. They can score slowly and eat up the clock or they can score quickly. They had a three play drive, 53 yard touchdown that took up 90 seconds. They had a 10 play drive for a field goal that took up six minutes. For about three years they were the most talked about offense. They look like the best constructed offense. Even before Jameer Gibbs it was Pro Bowlers and should be Pro Bowlers. That's never been the issue. We didn't even really question Dan Campbell. We didn't. We always thought Dan was a great culture guy. Since he's taken over the play calling though, he's a little better scheme guy than we give him credit for. They're averaging 6.8 yards of play and last night their last seven drives they had no punt. So I would say we've never criticized their front office. We love it. We think Dan Campbell has established himself as a franchise culture builder. Kind of like a variable big guy physically culture builder. We also like Jared Goff. Don't listen to anybody, he's really good. But we kind of this last night looked like the team with Ben Johnson and by the way, we've seen glimpses of it this year. I went and looked up this morning. They've scored 38 against Baltimore. They scored 52 way back when against the Bears, 44 against Washington, 44 last night against Dallas. So we know it's there. But they also gave us pause because they scored nine against Philly and 17 against the Chiefs. It's not about talent with Detroit and we've seen this. The Niners defense is more depleted than last year, but it's better because they got the right coordinator, Robert Sala. And we've said when you lose Ben Johnson an all time offensive coordinator, even if you replace him with a solid guy, a pretty good guy, it doesn't look quite as unique and quite as clever. So Dan Campbell stepped in and said, listen, our defense still isn't great. We're going to mostly win by track meets and since Dan Campbell's taking it over, you're getting, you're seeing this. But remember this is a team that also lost the JJ McCarthy. But I thought it was a beautiful thing to watch by about the mid second quarter and you were looking at the Ben Johnson Lions. So ideally a coach does not want to take over play calling duties offensively or defensively from a coordinator. But I also feel like it's time right now. Last night was a must win for them. They've signed a lot of their guys to big contracts in Detroit, a lot of them and a couple of them have injuries. As players get older, they get banged up. And so these windows, we all know this windows close very quickly in the NFL. So I'm watching it last night by the mid second quarter and I'm like, oh okay, these Lions, I've seen these Lions for about two, three years with Ben Johnson it felt like every Sunday this year it's like every third Sunday and it was last night on Thursday. It was a beautiful thing to watch. The roster construction's outstanding. You look at their schedule now at LA, Steelers, at Minnesota, at Bears, they're an 8 and 5 team. They're going to control most of their destiny. Here is Dan Campbell.
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Guest Analyst
After these guys do a great job of. They, they take it for what it is, man. They don't get, get panicked. They don't get panicked. They don't make something out of it that it's not. I think by doing that and keeping it that way, our guys are able to always answer back, you know, they, they do. I think where you get in trouble is if you start just that you start panicking and you start, you know, I got, I mentioned this last week. You got to start doing more than you need to do. Just do your job.
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Colin Cowherd
The more often we get that Detroit and that offense and that explosion and speed, that, that feels like a playoff team because their ceiling is very high. Okay, let's talk Cowboys. They lost the shootout. Two things are obvious and two things jumped out to us. One we kind of knew was the truth. One we were hoping would never be the truth again. Let's start with the first. We told you we like Dallas's O line, but they're a much better run blocking O line than a pass blocking O line. And last night they got exposed. Tyler Guyton, their left tackle was out. Yeah, that was bad because the right tackle is not good. So Dak Prescott was getting whacked. He got hit, sacked, knocked down 11 times. Do you realize this year Dak Prescott is the third most pressured quarterback in the league. First is Herbert, seconds Cam Ward, third is Dak. So Aiden Hutchinson had 10 pressures, seven in the fourth quarter. So when Dallas absolutely had to throw and time was running out, it got ugly. So Dallas has two first round picks. It's a good offensive tackle draft, it's a good edge rusher draft. They need both. That's, they can solve one massive concern. And getting an edge just gives their pass rush even more push. But last night it was very obvious Jared Goff was the much more comfortable quarterback. This is not on deck. I've defended Justin Herbert all year. I've defended Cam Ward. I'll defend Dak. When you're facing that kind of pass rush and have to speed it up, you make more mistakes. I don't care if you're a typist, a pianist or a quarterback. When you're, when you're playing faster than you're supposed to, it gets ugly. So Dak in Dax, six wins, he's been sacked six times. Seven times in Dak. Six losses, he's sacked 14 times. So there's, there's the answer to the test. The second thing, and I didn't think this was going to be a thing again. George Pickens became the Steelers. George Pickens uninterested, uninspired, immature. He still had five catches. But every cowboy fan you saw, we saw, we all saw. Now, CD Lam is so great and they've got enough other receivers like Turpin, you know, where you don't have to keep George Pickens. But George Pickens has been so good this year. When Dak in the first 11 games was throwing the Pickens, he had 135 passer ratings. In the last two games, Dak thrown to George Pickens has a 29 passer rating. And that's not on Dak. So remember, Dallas moved off DEZ Bryant. Dallas moved off Micah Parsons. Jerry Jones. If you are committed, you're an adult and you're productive. Jerry, he'll overpay you. But if you're not, remember, Jerry got tired of Zeke. He moved off Des. Micah had his world famous podcast. Jerry wants you committed. Jerry wants you grinding. Okay? Jerry has been all in on Dak. Dax mature. Dax committed. Dax missed games. Dax been hurt. But he knows Dak is a hundred percent about the team. George Pickens, this is what we all feared.
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Pickens pouts on prime is not the headline anybody wanted this morning. And Richard Sherman, good for him, called it out after.
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Guest Analyst
The big story. Here is George Pickens. George Pickens, throughout the game, especially late in the game, just looked uninterested, uninterested in playing football, you know, and that's what you can't have if you're going to be a superstar. If you want to be the best receiver in the National Football League, you can never be disengaged. You can't just disappear in these games or else you're not going to have impact. You're the guy. You're the guy. CD Lamb is not in this game. He's out. It's unacceptable. And if you're the Dallas Cowboys and you're looking at him and you're looking to pay him big time receiver money, $40 million. You got to look at this tape and say, hey, is this a guy we can trust paying $40 million to show up regardless of circumstance? I don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
Good for Richard Sherman. Regardless of circumstance.
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Regardless of circumstance. George Pickens when the going's good. But now, and I'm just going to guess here, his agents called Jerry looking for a big contract, and they've said, let's wait till the season's over. Agent tells Pickens. Pickens starts pouting. Remember those words from Richard Sherman, regardless of circumstance, because regardless of circumstance, Dak Prescott always delivers. Winning, losing, hurt. Dak is a leader on the worst of Sundays and the best of Thursdays. Okay? Just because the workplace environment is an ideal, don't, don't do a Des. Because Jerry moved off Des and it distracted in his mind and a replaceable Micah, he got tired of Zeke. So I. Richard Sherman. Circumstance superstars. Circumstance superstars. They're not going to get the bag in Dallas. And I know everybody's going to go. He's been so great last couple games. You're getting the Pittsburgh guy.
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Hey, Des Bryant to the end in Dallas. Got into the end zone a lot. I talked to Jason Garrett off the air once about that. He's like, I love Des. He got into the end zone. It's hard to get in the end zone. So that, that's not a good look. And again, Dak was getting hammered. Pickens starts pouting. That is not on Dak last night. And I'll say this about the Dallas defense. It's better, but I've seen Detroit do that this year to all sorts of teams, including the Ravens, who have a very good defense. It was banged up, but I, I. It's just one of those nights where standalone games kind of feels like you quit late in the game when CD Lamb left. And that's the thing. CD Was out. You've taken off the field. Now it's your time to shine. And it looked like you just quit. On a football.
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You don't get the bag, you get the boot. In Dallas, if you're a circumstances superstar, boot over the bag. So, J. Mac, we have a blazing five today. It's reminiscent of one of yours because I'm doing something that I am not prone to do, which is bet games I don't want to watch. It's a lot of bad teams, including one you're close to that I really, really like this weekend.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
And wait, did I talk you into the Falcons yesterday?
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Colin Cowherd
I'm not even going to get into it. I'm going to tease it for the audience, but as I was making my picks, the staff was like, did you steal J. Max picks? Because these are the games. Once you start going to AFC South, NFC south games, you know, I, I'm, I'M not on a heater I'm looking for. Wow.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
Listen, you got to bounce back. By the way, I did wear black for the people who aren't watching on tv. This is a funeral day for the Cowboy season. It's over. The picking stuff. You nailed it. Absolutely. You know, I'm sure Jerry said, hey, well, franchise tag them.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
And Pickens don't want to hear that. You know, we, you know how this goes. It's not. I'm just telling you, that was a massive swing game not only for this year for the Cowboys, Colin, but I think for next year. Because they probably looked at that defensive front. Hey, we got three defensive tackles. They couldn't stop the run. What are we doing? I think, I think they got a lot of changes coming to Dallas next year.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from 7 to 10pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. That's right, you can now watch the Odd couple live on YouTube every day. All you got to do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube again. YouTube. Just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out on YouTube and subscribe.
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Colin Cowherd
Foreign.
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Lakers beat Toronto in Toronto last night. It was how they did it. LeBron James by a mile had the longest streak of games, scoring in double figures. Second was Michael Jordan. Third was Kareem. But LeBron's at 1,297 consecutive games going into last night. And one of the things I've always defended about LeBron James and I I mean from his second, third year into the league until today, he always makes the right basketball play. For years he was bizarrely ripped by Kobe and Michael Jordan fanboys for not being aggressive Enough not being more selfish. Taking. He needs to take the bad shot. He's the man. Force it.
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Colin Cowherd
LeBron's always been more magic than Michael anyway. That's, that's his game. And everybody plays better with LeBron. He's the brilliant basketball quarterback, He's a marvelous passer, very clever. He's fourth all time in assists. So last night broke that 19 year stretch because coming down the stretch, he found Rui in the corner. And Rui hits the 3. But LeBron has always been more than just basketball is a get a bucket. Carmelo Anthony, was that Carmelo Anthony in his career, played in only three playoff series. LeBron's played in 41. They came out same draft. One is the Swiss army knife. The tent and the canteen. That's LeBron James, who I have said both ends of the floor is the greatest all around player I've ever seen play. Michael's the most aggressive score and some would argue the greatest player. But this was classic LeBron James. And the other thing about LeBron, my favorite LeBron stat ever is not an NBA stat. And we know he didn't go to college to play basketball. It's a high school stat. LeBron averaged 28 a game, 28 points a game as a junior in high school. He must average 60 his senior year, right?
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Podcast Announcer
No.
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Colin Cowherd
LeBron averaged one point more as a senior. From 28 a game as a junior to 29 as a senior. Why? Because LeBron's always been about the team and leadership and making the right play and involving everybody. I'm not saying he's always the easiest to coach. He and Spoelstra had battles. I'm not, I'm not saying that. But All Stars are difficult. Magic Johnson got rid of a coach too, right? Lu Alcindor Kareem, one of the all time greats. Not easy to coach. Could be stoic and moody. But LeBron in high school established who he was from 28 to 29 a game. You don't think LeBron could average 70 the next year in the NBA? If he wanted to, he could have averaged 30 points. He's always been around about the right basketball play. He and I've never been into the get a bucket. Guys like LeBron's smarter than that. He's beyond that. Everybody that plays with LeBron tends to have the best years of their career. And what's interesting about LeBron this year is the Lakers. When he plays, it's not his scoring. They get more threes and hit more threes. LeBron in his last year ultimate compliment is realizing he's not going to be a consistent big time scorer. That's Lucas role and often Austin Reeves role. LeBron has been really about playmaking, about giving other guys great shots. And if you look at the numbers, the Lakers are shooting a much better 3 point percentage with LeBron on the floor in games LeBron has played and here he was last night snapping his own all time record for consecutive double digit scoring games.
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Now that the streak has ended for.
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Guest Analyst
You, what feelings did you have?
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Colin Cowherd
None of that. We won.
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And he's been about that from day one. I'm not saying he didn't like being the all time leading scorer. Of course, I get it, we'd all do that. But that was classic LeBron that if you do 10 pieces of video, the 10 pieces of video to describe LeBron James career, most will be in his prime. That should be one that's on the reel. That should be on the tape that he broke his own streak to win a game.
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In maybe his final year as a pro. Maybe, maybe not. But it, I think that defined him. When I think of Lebron, I don't think, you know, he's the all time leading scorer. I think of him as the great Swiss army knife. Plus the tent, plus the canteen. J Mack with the news.
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Guest Analyst
No, no, no, no.
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Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
This is the herd line news. All right, we're start of your favorites. Colin. Bo Nix and The Denver Broncos 10 and 2 record this season. 8 and 2 and 1 score games. Enjoy it while it lasts. Here's Bo Nix talking about handling the team's success.
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Colin Cowherd
The worst thing you can do is.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
Let other people tear down a 102 record. Whether saying you don't play anybody or you know, you're just relying on defense.
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Colin Cowherd
Or whatever negative, somebody's going to put on a positive.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
It's always going to happen and we don't really worry about it.
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Colin Cowherd
Winner, I see a winner.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
This is, it's not negative or tearing down, it's providing context. You know, that's what smart people, smart shows do. They provide context to the Broncos gaudy 102 record. I mean again, imagine if we didn't tell the audience last year, hey, the Chiefs, I know they were 15 and 2 and they went like 110 in one score game. But they, the numbers don't say they were great and then this year they stink. So we're trying to help you guys out. Bo, I'm not coming after the Broncos.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
Just providing context, right? Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And also last year when the Chiefs went 11 and oh, it was disturbing because Mahomes was a veteran. Bo Nix is still young. You give him a little bit of a pass, but I don't think there's any. And I like him. I'm, you know, I'm a devoted Sean Payton. Yes. Believer.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
Yes.
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Colin Cowherd
And I love Bo Nixon, but he's been really, really uneven. It's a lot. I said this yesterday and I think this is fair. He and Caleb are talented and they're very good late, but you don't quite know in the first three quarters what you're getting. Whereas Drake may. I feel like first snap on, I get the same guy. So I think the criticisms for Bo Nix, I think he's gotten better over the last couple weeks, but I think all the criticisms are totally, absolutely, inarguably fair. And I think Sean Payton and he have probably conversations and they're acknowledging he's uneven right now.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
He said consistent. I mean the reality is Colin, he's a second year quarterback. If I told you when they drafted Bo Nix in year two, they'll be 10 and two through 12 games and the number one seed, you would take that In a heartbeat.
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Colin Cowherd
In a heartbeat.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
Enjoy it. It's great. Live in the moment. Throwback jerseys.
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Colin Cowherd
I will say if they go to the playoffs and I'm just throwing a team out and they played Houston with that pass rush and you said there's going to be an upset in round one, right. You'd be like, oh, I don't feel good about this because there, what's going to happen in the AFC is Denver could end up facing one of these teams that have the ability to be scary. Like I, the team that I would not want to play in the afc. I've said I wouldn't want to play the Seahawks in the NFC because they're going to, you know, they're not favored like the Rams or the Packers. Seattle is going to come in, they play great. East coast, west coast, Houston, I mean Kansas City this weekend. O line injuries facing Houston. I mean if, if Kansas City scored 10 points, would you be shocked? So I think Denver is one of those teams because they're uneven that, that, that a lot of people will pick them to lose in the first round as a big dog, as a big favorite. But, but they, they have, you could see them struggling in the postseason 100%.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
Let's move on. Now this. I love Colin P. You've been blasting Penn State all week. Well, how about this report that emerged yesterday? Oh my goodness. Penn State is talking to Matt Campbell, the fantastic coach from Iowa State, and it looks like he's now the clubhouse leader for the job. Colin, I cannot believe this would be a massive home run for Penn State. Campbell is awesome.
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Colin Cowherd
I. When I saw that story this morning, I'm like, oh, this guy should have been in the running six weeks ago. Like, he's a great, great. Still very, very young coach, good recruiter, and he's been, you know, he's been viable in a program that's the second best program in Iowa. So I think he'd be a great, great selection.
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Podcast Announcer
Yeah.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
By the way, the jets interviewed him years ago. The Lions interviewed him years. Like, the NFL sees this guy. The Patriots tried to hire him when he was a young coach. So there is a lot to like about Campbell. He's a Midwest guy, right? Went to high school in Ohio. He's still in his 40s. He's young. This will be a slam dunk. Penn State needs to close this. By the way, I looked this up. Last five seasons, Iowa State has two top 20 finishes.
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Colin Cowherd
That's great.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
The 40 years before that, they had one top 25 finish. Campbell has taken this program and done awesome things, put Brock Purdy in the NFL. By the way, Penn State needs to lock this down asap. This will be a huge, huge hire, huge hit. Final story. Colin. We got to go to the Eagles. They play Monday night against the Chargers. Interesting line movement here. Look at that. No longer three. Obviously, Eagles have some injury issues, but a lot of this problems surrounding the team have to do with A.J. brown and Saquon. But what about Jalen Hurts not running the ball like he used to. Through 12 games this season, Hertz has carried the ball 84 times for 329 yards and eight touchdowns. You know, that's pretty good, but these are his lowest rushing totals since he became the permanent starter with the Eagles. So we said hurts isn't running the ball well. Saquon's not running the ball well. Is this an offensive line issue? Is this an OC issue?
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Colin Cowherd
Take it away.
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Yeah, I think it's a bowline injury. I think it's a reality with Jalen Hurts when you're not getting a running game and have to throw on third and seven. Jalen hurts throwing on third and one or going for a tush push on third and two. But Jalen hurts when everybody in the ballpark knows because you have no run game you have to throw is not. That's. That's not his strength. Josh Allen's fine, can do that. Joe Burrow can do that. That's. That's not Jalen Hurt. Jalen Hurts is very good throwing when you're not sure he's throwing. And that J. Mac describes half the quarterbacks in this league that we like. Baker's better than Sam. Darnold's better when he can throw on third and two, not third and eight. So I, I think it's a reality is the run game is essential to Jalen Hurts success. And I. It's sputtered.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
Yeah. Now there's some cutups going around on social media of Jalen Hurts simply not making the right read right. To players who are open. Now, last night we saw weirdness, right. With Dak Prescott. He seemed to be holding the ball in the pocket longer than normal.
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Sophie Cunningham
And.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
And it was like, is he confused? I don't. Maybe Jalen Hurts is confused not seeing the feel. Well, again, they went to the super bowl last year, so they got the targets on their backs. Maybe defenses are trying some exotic stuff and Hertz is not processing. I don't know. But I had liked the Eagles in the nfc. Colin, I don't think they're the best team in the nfc.
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Colin Cowherd
No, they're not. Right now, Green Bay in LA both feel superior. No question. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.
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Co-host or Analyst (possibly J. Max or Rob Parker)
And thanks for stopping by the herd line news.
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Colin Cowherd
So I saw this story this morning, and it's just kind of instructive. Google's number one trending athlete last year. Was it Shohei Otani? Was it Josh Allen? No. Google's number one trending athlete was Shadour Sanders. Proving that trending is the dumbest trend of my life. Sometimes Patrick Mahomes trends, you know, when he's winning Super Bowls or his brother Jackson is being, you know, a little goofy. For the record, the LA Dodgers were not a top 10 trending major league Baseball team. Trending and attention is not quality. This morning, George Pickens is trending. Not for a great catch he made last night. So Shador Sanders is interesting, and I'm in the interesting business. He will never be great because he doesn't have any great traits. His arm is not great. His athletic ability is not great. His athleticism, you know, it's not great. In the summer when we're dying for topics, there were days and weeks he was the most interesting. And I'll be honest, let's be totally upfront about this. I'm in the media. We don't report on.
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Safe landings. We report on airplanes that crash. That's what we report on. All trending means is stop and look. That's what trending is and it's the auto accident of sports. And I do think Shedeur can be interesting. But the fact that he's the number one trending athlete, and this is instructive is why he dropped to the fifth round.
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He just started starting and he trends more than Ohtani. Ohtani had a scandal at the beginning of this year. Look at all the great athletes. This is exactly and precisely why he dropped to the fifth round. Nobody wanted this auto accident on the i5. Stopping, preening, looking, slowing down. GMs don't want that. I've always said if you're going to be a backup quarterback in the NFL, what GMs want is a guy that can put a baseball hat on in a mall, walk through it and nobody notices him. That's what you want. That's why I said Belichick got rid of Cam Newton the minute he was going to start Mac Jones Tebow as a starter. I didn't buy it. It doesn't work as a backup. Shador is a backup. It's just too much noise. So I mean I, I want my quarterback to have followers 52 in a locker room or another 10 in a huddle. I don't care about your IG or your ex account. I don't care. And so at this stage Shedeur is more of an interesting trend than he is a franchise quarterback. And he seems like a nice kid but you know, going viral used to mean you witnessed two rainbows in the sky. Like, like now it means you know, you hooked up with a co worker at a Coldplay concert. Like that's not what I'm looking for. And by the way, Sophie Cunningham should trend too. She's amazing. And people trend for different reasons. Beauty, funny, pile up on the freeway. So, but, but when he dropped in the fifth round and I contacted people in the league, this was kind of it. They don't want quarterbacks trending unless it's like winning playoff games. And, and that's just the reality of the position.
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Again, George Pickens is trending this morning and it, it's not because they made a great one handed cat. Right? Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Colin we got the super six. Which quarterback will have the most passing yards this week? Josh Allen vs. The Bengals, Jordan Love vs. The Bears, Caleb vs. The packers or Joe Burrow who just got T. Higgins back versus The Bills?
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Colin Cowherd
Joe Burrow against the Bills, baby. All right.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. This weekend for the first time in a long time, the Bears are going to face the packers. And I like both the offenses. This is the most one sided great rivalry in sports. Think about this. The last 20 times Duke and Carolina have met in basketball it's 1010. The last 10 times the Buckeyes and the Wolverines have met in football it's 6 4. Ohio State. The last 10 times Texas Oklahoma play in football it's 6 to 4. Sooners. The last 30 times the Bears and Packers have played, it's 26 to 4. Green Bay if this was a fight, they'd have called it like two decades ago. Why? My belief isn't just that Green Bay drafts good quarterbacks. The reason they do draft good quarterbacks and they draft ahead. Green Bay gets out of dysfunction very quickly and Everybody in the NFL has dysfunction and injuries. Everybody. Green Bay, McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers started getting prickly moved off it. Favre started getting prickly moved off it. Even this year Green Bay's offense got it was broken a month ago and they fixed it so they stay ahead of dysfunction and Chicago doesn't. And so much of life and so much of sports is not turning a bad day into a bad week. It's not turning one bad loss into a four game losing streak. I saw a story this week where Matt Stafford came out and he said I'm really good at getting over bad games. And I was thinking about Tom Brady when he went to Tampa. He had back to back games before the buy where his passer rating was in the 70s and they were lost as a franchise and then they had a buy and Tom Brady I think went 80 and won a Super bowl from that point forward. Don't let a bad day become a bad week or month as a human being. And so it in fact in golf they call it Bounce back. What do you do after a bogey? On the tour, the best guy is Scotty scheffler. Scotty Scheffler 36% of the time after a bogey, next hole has a birdie. You gotta forget losses, bad series, bad plays, bad days at work. Get over it. Just move on. You gotta be resilient. The Bears, until this season, we're still clinging to 1985. We're tough, we're physical. We're about defense. I like defense, too, and I love physicality. But Ben Johnson said, yeah, we can be physical. It's called a run game. And that's what the Bears, that's really where they figured it out. Chicago loves physicality. Pittsburgh, Chicago, they love defense. They love violent football. Chicago is in their run game. It's a great run game. So the Bears, now that were looking in the rear view mirror since 85, you know, feel very progressive. They've got a McVeigh feel. Everybody thinks McVeigh loves to throw. McVeigh loves to run. Kyle Shannon loves to run. Matt LaFleur loves to run. We've discovered Ben Johnson loves to run the football. Physicality is not just on defense. And so, I mean, if you look at the Bears offensive improvement from last year to this year, they're averaging eight more a game, almost 100 yards more. The sacks are down by two and a half a game, and they're running for over 52 more yards a game. That's. That's the biggest improvement in the NFL. So I feel like the Bears have just discovered Venmo this year. They'd been paying people off in brown paper sacks since 1985, and they'd like. They figured it out now. What makes it tough for the Bears is Green Bay's at home. And when Ben Johnson got hired, he probably regrets it now, but he kind of fired a shot at Matt LaFleur and the Bears rival. Remember this. I've got tremendous amount of respect for the coaches and the players in this league, having competed against them for the last six years.
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Guest Analyst
And to be quite frank with you.
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Colin Cowherd
I kind of enjoyed beating Matt lafor twice a year. Okay, I wouldn't have said that. But you know what happens? It's an opening press conference. Dan Campbell had a bad opening press conference. So did Nick Ceriani. It's okay, but it's. It's. I feel like the Bears have transitioned from taxis to Uber, from paying people off in brown paper sacks to Venmo. And it's. It's cool. It took them a while but it's cool. Dave Wonstadt, former Bear coach, going to be joining us. Top of the hour along with the Blaze and five picks. So last night Detroit beats Dallas. And because of that, Detroit has a much greater shot to go to the playoffs. And the Cowboys are kind of toast. The AFC equivalent to that. The other conference is the Texans facing the Chiefs. If the Texans win and beat him this weekend, and I think it's a last second field goal game, I don't get three and a half as a line at all.
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Houston, 85% chance of making the playoffs. If the Chiefs lose this weekend and go 6 and 7 like Dallas last night, they're in big trouble. They're done. But I, can I just say this.
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And I'm not saying this because Tom Brady works for Fox. I've always believed this. But let's just say Kansas City loses and Mahomes doesn't make the playoffs. When you look at the Brady Mahomes and I don't know if it's a rivalry but I mean until Tom went to Tampa, everybody was saying, there were a lot of people saying, well, you know, it's just, it's, it's Belichick system quarterback and he went to Tampa, won a Super Bowl. You're like, yeah, that's nonsense. And Belichick's Patriots circled the drain. But never forget in the whole Brady Mahomes rivalry. And they're both all time greats and I love both. Brady never got thoroughly blown out in a Super Bowl. Mahomes is already at two and counting. Brady beat Mahomes twice, once with Tampa in a Super bowl blowout and then once in the AFC championship at Arrowhead. That's in the books forever. Can't be argued. And number three, Brady and his peak never missed the playoffs. You can give me 20 excuses. Two of those you can't turn around the super bowl blowouts. Brady didn't have them.
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And Brady beat him twice. Super bowl and AFC championships. This would be the third thing you can't argue about because Tom in his prime.
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Didn'T miss the playoffs. Now again, I'm celebrating both. It's like Jordan and LeBron. Two best basketball players along with magic I ever saw in pry Cream. But and this is with Andy Reid and with Travis Kelsey. I do think.
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Some of the problems, and this is a well run organization in Kansas City are out of Patrick's control. They're not right now dependable at offensive tackle. And the two times they got whacked in the super bowl, they weren't very good on the old line, specifically tackle. So. And they also haven't run the ball particularly well. Listen, they had to move off Joe Tuney, Joe Tunis, the best guard arguably in the sport. Their tackle situation's not good. So it's just, it's really hard to win a Super bowl even to get to one. When you're online, you don't trust them. Here's Mahomes on the must win game against the gnarly defense in Houston this weekend.
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I don't know if we've been in this situation this early in in the season and so I think just learning from it together, building together and then using what we can use from prior seasons to hopefully make a run at this thing and try to get ourselves in the playoffs and see where we can go from there. So if you look at the playoff picture today in the AFC and the nfc.
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In the afc New England, Denver, Jacksonville, Baltimore leading their division Wild card Chargers, Colts, Buffalo I.
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I'd be very wary of the Colts right now. In the hunt Houston, Pittsburgh and Kansas City. When you take those in the hunt teams, Houston, Pittsburgh and Kansas City, what's the best unit of all three teams? It's the Texans defense. My take is the Texans are going to be probably find themselves as a wild card team. If you look at the NFC playoff picture right now, it is very much established. San Francisco is the seventh seed, so Chicago's in Rams, Philadelphia, Tampa, Seattle's dangerous Green Bay, San Francisco. Keep your eye on Detroit. I think Carolina's defense will eventually be their issue. Dallas played themselves out of it last night. I think Detroit's got more good players than San Francisco does in terms of overall talent.
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I don't know if it's even that close. Most of Detroit's best players offensively are just entering their prime or in their prime. A lot of the great players for the Niners are old Kittle, Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams, hall of Famers but old so I the Texans Kansas City is is not as good as Green Bay Chicago in terms of game of the week and I I it's hard to bet against Kansas City in these spots. I think it's a field goal game a go either way game. But that's where we are. My blazing five picks are at the top of next hour. I just took one out. It has been reported that Jaden Daniels will play for Washington and I had Minnesota at home in that game as one of my blazing five picks. I have removed that because I am not betting against Jaden Daniels. Whoever the quarterback is for the Minnesota Vikings. So I just took that one out. I put the Chargers Eagles in.
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- [51:22]
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Guest Analyst
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Colin Cowherd
You're a good boy.
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Guest Analyst
You're a good boy.
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Colin Cowherd
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