Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: THE HERD - Hour 1 - Major concerns about Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy looked great when it mattered most
Date: September 9, 2025
Episode Overview
In this episode, Colin Cowherd and Jason McIntyre break down the first week's major NFL storylines, focusing on the contrasting performances of rookie quarterbacks Caleb Williams (Chicago Bears) and J.J. McCarthy (Minnesota Vikings). They discuss concerns about Williams’ performance, McCarthy’s dramatic turnaround, the significance of coaching and game planning, and rapid-fire reactions to other NFL storylines. The conversation is lively, analytical, and candid, with emphasis on the importance of “believing in oneself,” coaching adjustments, and how teams react to adversity and early season trends.
Main Discussion Points
1. Quarterback Controversy: Caleb Williams vs. J.J. McCarthy
- Caleb Williams (Bears): Major concerns about his off-script play, mental composure, and accuracy, especially as the game progresses and pressure mounts.
- J.J. McCarthy (Vikings): Erratic and hesitant for most of the game, but transformed in the fourth quarter into a decisive, accurate, and energetic leader who helped secure a comeback win.
Key Insights:
- Williams looks fantastic when everything goes as planned ("on-script") but unravels under pressure.
- McCarthy, meanwhile, demonstrated rare resilience, delivering when it counted despite earlier struggles, drawing comparisons to Baker Mayfield in terms of emotional, momentum-driven play.
2. Coaching and Execution
- Ben Johnson (Bears OC) faced visible frustration with Williams’ inconsistency and team penalties, emphasizing that talent alone isn’t enough for success in the NFL ([06:18]).
- Brian Flores (Vikings DC) was credited as "the best defensive coordinator in football" and instrumental in rattling Williams and forcing errors ([06:38]).
- Kevin O’Connell (Vikings HC) received praise for instilling confidence in McCarthy, reflected by the quarterback’s body language and performance reboot late in the game.
3. Game Analysis & Turning Points
- Williams’ Performance:
- Opened strong (first drive: 6/6, 102 passer rating) but faltered when forced to improvise.
- Bears committed 12 penalties (8 on offense), repeatedly setting themselves back.
- McCarthy’s Turnaround:
- Poor through three quarters (34 passer rating), but after a “pick six” and a crucial fourth-quarter completion to Justin Jefferson, he became “a different quarterback” ([09:18]).
- Final passer rating: 98; Vikings overcame six fewer first downs and poor third-down stats.
4. Broader NFL Context
- Week 1 Surprises: The hosts discuss surprise performances (e.g., Lions’ offensive woes, Ravens’ blown leads, Miami’s collapse against the Colts), urging caution not to overreact to Week 1 results.
- Importance of Coordinators: A recurring theme—great coordinators are game-changers and elevate talent beyond its raw potential.
- Division Picture: Early takes on NFC North hierarchy, with Green Bay and Minnesota favored over Chicago and Detroit ([15:01]).
5. Quarterback Development & NFL Realities
- The panel recognizes the volatility of rookie/QB performances and the impact of coaching. Young QBs like Williams, McCarthy, Bo Nix, and Drake May are contrasted with established, consistent starters.
- Notable Analytic: Williams’ expected completion percentage was -13% (should have completed far more passes based on open looks), underscoring a worrying inconsistency ([22:20]).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Caleb Williams:
"The further the Bears’ Caleb Williams got off script, the worse it got…off script, hero ball, panicking, lack of accuracy—all the things scouts said they were concerned about."
— Jason McIntyre ([05:03])"He does too many things that losing quarterbacks do—the false starts, panicking with pressure, off-script accuracy dipping."
— Colin Cowherd ([06:55]) -
On J.J. McCarthy:
"There was a moment for JJ McCarthy in the fourth where he just hit Justin Jefferson with a seed, and this play right here unleashed something…the next three drives, it was a different J.J. McCarthy."
— Colin Cowherd ([09:18])"For him to make some of the plays he did, I told him at halftime, you are going to bring us back to win this game…that doesn’t get done without him in the second half."
— Kevin O’Connell, via Cowherd ([11:37]) -
On Coaching & Development:
"Nobody is going to believe in you in life until you believe in yourself. You watched [McCarthy’s] body language change."
— Colin Cowherd ([10:44]) -
On NFL Realities:
"There’s a million talented lounge singers working at bad saloons. They’re not coachable. They aren’t consistent. The NFL is so much more than just arm talent."
— Colin Cowherd ([06:24])
Timestamps of Key Segments
- [04:17] Praise for McCarthy’s fourth quarter; context on his struggles and turnaround
- [05:03] Detailed breakdown of Williams’ and McCarthy’s stat lines and what they reveal
- [06:18] Critique of Caleb Williams’ development and comparison to Cam Newton, Jay Cutler, and Justin Fields
- [09:18] Turning point for McCarthy; "unleashed" after key completion to Jefferson
- [11:37] Kevin O’Connell’s belief in McCarthy and the team’s reaction
- [14:07] Additional context: injuries, McCarthy’s youth, and adversity faced by Vikings
- [15:01] NFC North hierarchy and importance of defensive coordinators
- [22:20] Deep dive on Williams’ expected completion percentage and concern for Bears fans
- [41:32] Silver lining for Bears fans — toughest defensive opponent now behind them
- [47:27] Discussion of 49ers injury situation and analysis of team depth
Additional Highlights
- The crew debates how one week should not define a season, but acknowledges that major patterns and coaching impact are “real and meaningful.”
- A consistent thread is the impact of head coaches and coordinators—losing key staff (like Detroit’s Ben Johnson) has visible, immediate consequences.
- Ongoing theme: what separates promising quarterbacks from sustained NFL success is more about consistency, coachability, and avoiding mistakes than raw talent.
Final Takeaways & Tone
Cowherd and McIntyre deliver sharp, opinion-driven analysis, peppered with analogies (lounge singers, emotional momentum, etc.), and challenge fans not to accept shallow optimism. While bearing down on weaknesses, they share optimism about strong organizations, smart coaching hires, and the developmental path for young passers. The episode is delivered with frankness, wit, and a sense of urgency befitting NFL Week 1 overreactions—yet always with an eye on bigger trends.
For listeners who missed the episode:
This hour provided a deep, nuanced look at young QBs, the outsized impact of coaching, and how week-to-week NFL results should inform but not wholly define expectations. The McCarthy comeback and Williams struggles stand out as the microcosm of QB growth, while broader league storylines reinforce that consistency, leadership, and organization matter most.
