THE HERD - Hour 1 – Miami (FL) is Bad for College Football, the War on the NFL, Time to Dump Goff

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Hour 1 – Miami (FL) is Bad for College Football, the War on the NFL, Time to Dump Goff

Date: January 1, 2026
Hosts: Rob Parker (Guest Host), Kerry Rhodes (Guest Co-Host)
Special Guest: Yogi Roth (Big Ten Network)

Episode Overview

On this New Year's Day episode, Rob Parker and Kerry Rhodes cover the seismic shock of Miami upsetting Ohio State in the College Football Playoff, debate whether the current format is hurting the sport, tackle Dan Lanning's fiery comments about the NFL's "takeover" of college football weekends, and close with a spirited discussion about whether the Detroit Lions should move on from quarterback Jared Goff. Special guest Yogi Roth joins to break down the college football landscape and playoff structure.

The episode is rich in heated debate, memorable sports analogies, and behind-the-scenes insight, capturing both the controversy and excitement swirling in the heart of college football and NFL discourse.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Miami’s Upset of Ohio State and What It Means for College Football

[02:59-16:29]

Miami's Shock Win Over Ohio State

• Kerry Rhodes wasn’t surprised, predicting Miami’s strong defensive presence would disrupt Ohio State.

  • “I thought Miami had enough defense, enough pass rush to affect Ohio State... more than capable of winning and they showed that last night.” (04:49)

• Rob Parker calls out the impact of the new playoff format—especially how the long layoff (25 days) for top seeds with byes can leave them flat.

  • “Ohio State hadn’t played football… in 25 days. You can’t tell me that doesn’t affect you.” (06:23)

• The hosts delve into how dominant Miami was from the start, with Ohio State’s QB appearing rattled against a relentless pass rush.

  • “Ohio State was lucky to be down 14 [at halftime]… Miami dominated.” (05:27)

Is the Format Good for College Football?

• Kerry: Upsets are good for belief—but acknowledges brands matter.

  • “You want people to believe that team has a chance to win. It helps.” (07:17)

• Rob: Networks and the sport need the big brands for ratings—referencing college basketball’s ratings struggles in years with too many “Cinderella” Final Four teams.

  • “Cinderella is great… for the first round.” (08:22)
  • “If Ohio State is your top brand… you want them to go out in the first round of this? This is not… what they really wanted.” (08:49)

• The expanded playoff has led to lower seeds (like Miami, mis-seeded as a 10 seed) knocking out top brands, which may be great once in a while but risks damaging broad fan interest.

Scheduling & Layoff Problem

• Multiple references to other sports (MLB playoffs, NFL) where teams with byes come out slow, suggesting college football needs to rethink the calendar.
  • “Teams that get byes... haven’t won a game yet.” (06:14)
• Long pauses between end of season and playoffs make teams rusty; intensifies debate about the regular season’s value vs. the playoff spectacle.

Notable Quote

• Rob Parker: “Vegas doesn’t give you nine and a half points… that’s a major upset.” (11:30)

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2. College Football as the NFL’s “Feeder System” and the Scheduling “War”

[24:11–32:13]

Dan Lanning Calls Out the NFL

• Oregon coach Dan Lanning’s comments spark a discussion on NFL’s “invasion” of college football’s traditional Saturday slot.

  • “We’re the minor league… but there’s no money paid from the NFL to take care of college football. We’ve given up some of our days right to the NFL.” – Dan Lanning (25:10, via paraphrase)

• Rob Parker sides with Lanning, sharply criticizing the NFL for encroaching on college football’s territory, referencing the broadcast rules originally meant to keep high school (Friday), college (Saturday), and the NFL (Sunday) separate.

  • “The NFL, they’re bullies… they have infringed on Saturdays.” (25:52)
  • Argues for a “real war” if college football wants to win back Saturdays: "If you guys don't want to work with us, we might have to cut off access that we give you to our athletes." (27:41)

• Kerry Rhodes points out college football itself is playing on non-traditional days (e.g., Friday night games), so it’s hard to complain about NFL's expansion.

  • “They’ve started to spread their wings… if they’re saying the NFL does that, high school can say they’re a farm league for college.” (29:32)

• Debate underscores the power dynamic: NFL’s reach and ratings swamp other sports (e.g., NFL “took” Christmas from NBA).

Notable Moment

• Rob explains how fantasy football made the NFL a national obsession and changed sports viewing habits:
  • “Fantasy football made me care about games that had nothing to do with my team… That’s how you take something from regional to a national interest.” (32:13)

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3. Yogi Roth Joins: Playoff Format, Conference Perceptions & What’s Next for Miami

[33:58–43:17]

Playoff Format: Is the Layoff Hurting Top Seeds?

• Yogi Roth (Big Ten Network) agrees the layoff is an issue: “We should be playing the title game right now… The top seeds still get byes [in the NFL], but they’re only off for a week.” (35:59)
• Suggests upcoming years will force college football to reconsider its schedule and postseason format.

Miami’s Long-term Potential

• Points out how rare Miami’s success has been since their 2002 title, but credits Cristobal’s program building, likening it to the glory days.
  • “There’s something… when the U is back, when the Trojans are rolling… it’s fun to have those blue bloods back.” (38:13)

Big Ten vs. SEC and the “Power 2”

• Yogi: “Head and shoulders above? No, but are they separating? I think so. …The care factor? Through the roof.” (42:56)
• Notes rising quarterback talent and intense regional fandom set those conferences apart.

Notable Quote

• Yogi Roth: “If you asked me last year, my biggest takeaway of the Big Ten: quarterback play wasn’t as good as I wanted. This year—it’s the best in the history of the league.” (40:56)

Fun Moment

• Rob asks about Yogi’s name, leading to a heartfelt explanation of its Hindu and Hebrew roots.
  • “Yogi is like if you practice yoga, trying to bring some union to the world in this chaotic world.” (43:57)

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4. NFL Talk – The Jared Goff Debate: Time to Move On?

[49:36-53:30]

• Rob Parker contends Detroit QB Jared Goff isn’t the answer for a Super Bowl contender, citing his turnover-heavy playoff games and struggles in must-win scenarios.

  • “He had more turnovers than a bakery.” (50:44)
  • “There's a common denominator. I'm convinced you can't get there. I've seen enough of Jared Goff.” (53:03)

• Kerry Rhodes pushes back, saying Goff is the best option for the Lions right now, given what he’s brought to the franchise.

  • “You’re not getting anybody better than Jared Goff right now.” (53:14)

Notable Quote

• Rob Parker: “Let’s stop acting like just winning nine games is great and we’re all happy schmappy and all that. The idea is to get to the Super Bowl.” (51:33)

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• Kerry Rhodes: “Miami had enough defense, enough pass rush to affect Ohio State… more than capable of winning, and they showed that last night.” (04:49)

• Rob Parker: “Cinderella is great… people love Cinderella in the first round. [But the] ratings were horrible and people didn’t watch [when all blue bloods were out].” (08:22)

• Rob Parker: “Vegas doesn’t give you nine and a half points… that’s a major upset.” (11:30)

• Rob Parker: “25 days is a long time… even just for a bowl game. They wait until the holidays to put those games on and it’s like a month.” (15:53)

• Dan Lanning (via Rob Parker): “We're the minor league in a lot of ways, but there’s no money paid from the NFL to take care of college football. We've given up some of our days right to the NFL.” (25:10)

• Rob Parker: “If you guys don't want to work with us, we might have to cut off the access that we give you to our athletes, to our intel… They have a free minor league system.” (27:41)

• Yogi Roth: “We should be playing the title game right now… The top seeds still get byes [in the NFL], but they’re only off for a week.” (35:59)

• Rob Parker: “He had more turnovers than a bakery.” (50:44)

• Rob Parker: “Let’s stop acting like just winning nine games is great and we’re all happy schmappy and all that. The idea is to get to the Super Bowl.” (51:33)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:59] – Show open, happy New Year, start of college football talk
• [04:49] – Kerry Rhodes analysis: Why Miami's upset wasn't shocking
• [06:23] – Impact of layoff/byes for top seeds
• [08:22] – Brands vs. upsets debate: Are Cinderellas hurting the sport?
• [11:30] – How Miami dominated, Ohio State’s struggles, Vegas odds
• [15:53] – Problems with layoff and scheduling in college football
• [24:11] – Dan Lanning’s comments on the NFL “taking over” college football’s Saturday
• [25:52] – Rob Parker: NFL as bully, the history of sports scheduling
• [32:13] – How fantasy football and gambling changed TV ratings
• [33:58] – Yogi Roth joins: dissecting the playoff format and Miami’s potential
• [40:56] – Big Ten, SEC, and the “Power 2” debate
• [43:57] – Yogi explains the origin of his name
• [49:36] – Jared Goff, Dan Campbell’s comments, and the Lions’ Super Bowl hopes
• [51:33] – Rob’s strong stance: It’s about Super Bowls, not just wins

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Tone & Style

• Upbeat, humorous banter with sharp, opinionated debate
• Frequent sports analogies and references to recent and classic games
• “Hot take” energy: hosts aren’t afraid to disagree or critique
• Real talk from behind the mic: “Let’s pull the curtain back” moments

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the evolving dynamics of college football’s playoff format, the ongoing struggle between college and NFL scheduling, and the high expectations placed on NFL quarterbacks. The interplay between Rob Parker’s direct and sometimes provocative takes and Kerry Rhodes’ player’s perspective provides both entertainment and depth, with Yogi Roth offering a measured, inside look at the college football landscape.

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[Kerry Rhodes]

Now, let's get this party started.

[Rob Parker]

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yo. Happy New Year. My goodness gracious, it is the Herd. Collins off. Of course, it's New Year's Day. Happy New Year to everybody. Rob Parker from the Odd Couple. You hear us 7 to 10 Eastern, Monday through Friday here on Fox Sports Radio. And let me bring in, of course, the former all Pro safety, Kerry Rhodes.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

What's up, my man?

[Kerry Rhodes]

They did a better job already. Carrie Rhodes and not Kerry Washington.

[Rob Parker]

No. I was a little shook the other night when we were doing the show. You know, I know who you are. Yeah, I know. And yes. Big show the next three hours on the Herd here. I got a lot of stuff to get involved in. We also want to hear from you. It's a New Year's Day, a lot going on. We will throw out Rob G. You. Rob G. Is our producer. He, of course, produces the Odd Couple. Usc. Chris is our engineer today. So we got the crew working on a holiday. And Rob G. And Chris, what's happening? Happy New Year to you guys. Happy New Year. It is wonderful to be in the year of horse. Is that what it is? Year of the horse? Yes, the horse. Yeah. So Mr. Ed has made a comeback. Is that what we're talking about?

[Kerry Rhodes]

He next. He's. He's going to come in later in the year. He's not coming right in the middle. He's going to. Don't kind of ease into it. Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Don't spoil our hour. Three special guests. Okay.

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[Rob Parker]

I just wanted to make sure. All right, Kerry, obviously, College football playoff, the big game last night.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yep.

[Rob Parker]

Ohio State. Miami.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah. What you got?

[Rob Parker]

How shocked were you?

[Kerry Rhodes]

I was not shocked at all, Rob. I actually told my host on Sundays from 9, from 2 to 5pm Pacific Standard Time, Dan Byer, he's an Ohio State fan, obviously, and I told him to watch out for this game. I thought Miami had enough defense, enough pass rush to affect Ohio State. And I mean, they have something to prove. Right? They were one of the last teams and I think they were the last that large be a team and possibly. And you know, they've been. They were at One point in the year, considered the best team in football. So, you know, you have a bump, you lose a game here in the regular season and you think that team can't win. That team was more than capable of winning and they showed that last night.

[Rob Parker]

But. But is. Is that what we have, or is this what college football has made happen, which is putting all these teams in, teams taking buys? I mean, let's just be honest, and I'm not making any excuses because Miami dominates. Yes. Okay. They. The first half, Ohio State was lucky to be down 14, am I right? They fumbled in the red zone early. I think their first possession, they should have been up by three or four. Score three scores at least.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Easy.

[Rob Parker]

Okay.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

And. And when Miami scored in the second half, the game right away becomes a ball game. Right. 14, seven, whatever. But my point is this is teams that get buys in the first round.

[Kerry Rhodes]

This new format haven't won a game yet.

[Rob Parker]

Excuse me. I'm not used to being up so early this morning. I got my hot tea. We'll get it together. But. Oh, and five.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Oh, and Ohio State hadn't played football. Carrie, you're the former football player. Yep. In 25 days.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

You can't tell me that doesn't affect you. And I'm not making excuses because last year Ohio State was the number eight seed and they blew out the number one seed. Blew him out by. Right. 20. Some point. 20 points.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

Tell me, like playing. We saw this in baseball a couple years ago too, when they gave the number one seeds in baseball off. They all lost. Atlanta lost, the Dodgers.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Oh, that's right.

[Rob Parker]

Everybody lost. And they said, well, you're used to playing and now you're getting a break and the other team is continuing to play. What do you make of what has happened here for college football? I mean, that Ohio State is out.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah, I mean, the fact that Ohio State is out, I don't think that's. I don't think. I think what we got yesterday is what they want. They want people to believe that teams that are lower seeds have a chance to win.

[Rob Parker]

Oh, I don't believe.

[Kerry Rhodes]

No, no, Rob, listen, I want to.

[Rob Parker]

Hear this because I think that they're not happy that Ohio State is.

[Kerry Rhodes]

No, it's not about. Yes, I understand Ohio State as the brand being out. That's a problem. I hear you. But they also want to give the kid, the guys and the young men that are the double digit seeds belief that they can win. Right. Like a lot of people think, when these teams get in and they're low. They may not be as celebrated as an Ohio State or whatever. We' talking about Miami. They are. So I'm not saying them, but in general, you want people to believe that that team has a chance to win. So I think it's good from that perspective. Now, as far as the brand in college football and, you know, having a repeat champion for the first time in a long time or whatever, like, that's another storyline. But I don't think it hurts the sport. I think it actually helps them.

[Rob Parker]

See, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna disagree. And I'll go to, I'll go to college basketball.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Okay.

[Rob Parker]

Yes. We want the Cinderellas.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Okay, okay.

[Rob Parker]

We want, we want the Cinderella.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Cinderella.

[Rob Parker]

No, no, no, no. But I'm just saying in general with the brands, the big brands getting knocked out.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes. Okay.

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[Rob Parker]

Oh, Cinderella is great. People love Cinderella in the first round.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Sure.

[Rob Parker]

Okay.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

A couple years ago, and I don't remember the exact year, three of the four in the final four were like Cinderella. The lowest rated people. The, the, the blue bloods were Florida Atlantic.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Do you remember? Yes. Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

And, and, and all the blue bloods weren't involved or whatever and the ratings were horrible and people didn't watch.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Sure.

[Rob Parker]

So there is a degree of that.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

So I don't think that if Ohio State is your top brand and your top school defending champ, you want them to go out in the first round of this. This is not, I don't think what they really wanted.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Well, I think the problem with that or the solution to that would just be the way they're seating it. Miami's not a 12 seed or 10, you know, like they shouldn't be.

[Rob Parker]

Right.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Teams that won their conferences got the go ahead before they did. So I think when you talk about the problems of what that playoff looks like, it's not about my 10 seed. Miami beaten the number two seed, Ohio State. It's about the reseeding of it. Miami's not a 10 seed. They're a really good football team and had a couple slip ups during the regular season which drop them to the spot you're talking about.

[Rob Parker]

Right. But, but the slip ups are, that's why you play the regular season. Right. So that, so that you ensure that the team, the best teams, you want the best teams involved. Don't. Don't get me wrong. And I'm not saying Cinderella stories or a team coming out of nowhere. That's great every once in a while. And I just think for Ohio State, and then again we could start talking about the college football and, and, and what matters, having a, a cupcake schedule, playing people. And then you get into this tournament and now you're playing all good schools. So, so that's another thing. Do we hear at USC the dummy and down of the schedule so that we could pile up wins, get into the tournament. Right. And then, and then what happens when you play the big dogs?

[Kerry Rhodes]

You gonna get, you gonna get a rude awakening.

[Rob Parker]

That kind people kind of like questioned Ohio State schedule, right. A little bit like, like who did they really play?

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

And then it came to Roos in Miami and they really, they dominated that game like, like from the start. And even at one point just watching, I just felt like Ohio State's QB was shook. He was throwing hospital passes.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Am I right?

[Rob Parker]

Like, like just flinging like guys open in front of him. Throw the ball up, but it's got to get crushed.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

By defensive players. There was another player, I remember where he was open like in the flat and just threw it out of bat like, like he just had become.

[Kerry Rhodes]

He could have just ran and got a first down, right? It was third and two. They were trying to drive down.

[Rob Parker]

That's what I'm right.

[Kerry Rhodes]

3Rd and 2. They were driving down to try to at least get points before the half, get a field goal. And just like his internal clocks messed up. He didn't know how much time's on the clock. He could have ran, got the first down in college, the clock stopped, so that would have been fine, but he was rattled. That pass rush from Ruben Bane and those guys from Miami was just relentless all night.

[Rob Parker]

So, so they were this, it's a huge upset. I mean, and I talk about this only from the standpoint of while you have respect for Miami, of course, yeah, we're talking about. Vegas doesn't give you nine and a half points. Do you know what I mean? That's a major. Yeah, no, that's a major upset. It is where people thought Ohio State is going to waltz into a back to back situation. People at Michigan were probably had their panties in a bunch. Oh my God. It's bad enough that Ohio one last year. Now they're going to, you know what I mean, roll off a couple of wins here. And the way college football has evolved, I think it was kind of shocking. I mean, I'm just talking about from that standpoint.

[Kerry Rhodes]

From that standpoint. Yes. They started out, I think Rob, I think they were double digit favorites going into that game. But around game time, if you looked at it, that line had dropped to just a touchdown. It had dropped down to like six and a half, seven. So the consensus, I think once you really settled into what Miami has and what Ohio State has and then actually the factors of that game, both teams come into that game with top notch defenses. Right. Ohio State. You just said it though. Who did they play?

[Rob Parker]

No, and so to get tested, that's the knock on them.

[Kerry Rhodes]

So who. So to get tested in a real way against a team that has something to prove. I mean, this, for me, it was the recipe for a win by Miami.

[Rob Parker]

But, but for college football. And the way that these top teams have been getting knocked out is that really what do they have to relook at the way they set up the playoff format? Because I don't, I don't know if that's really how you want the playoff to go. And I'm not saying you're trying to rig it or fix it so that the better teams or better brands, you know, can kind of move forward, but we've seen this now for a couple years.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Well, they've done everything they could rob to make sure the teams they want in it, get in it. That's not. Let's, no, no, no, let's not gloss over that.

[Rob Parker]

Like, trust me, I already know how they operate. And this is, it's a business. Like you can sit there and you could talk about anything you want. It's just like the deal that they have with Notre Dame.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

That, that they all have to be at the top, the top 12. And they're going to get into the College Football Playoff regardless, no matter what. If they're in the top 12 and they were able to broker that deal because they have leverage. They have the NBC deal, they have their own money. No one's forced them. You could easily, if you really wanted to punish Notre Dame.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Right.

[Rob Parker]

You could. They got too big of a fan base, they got too much money behind them that you can't ignore them. They went in with that leverage to be able to tell the college football, this is the deal. You gonna take it or not? You know what I mean?

[Kerry Rhodes]

Like, yeah, no, it's, it's insane. Like, we know what they want. It's. It's about money, it's about tv, it's about the ratings, about, it's about all of that. But I think so.

[Rob Parker]

So, so is Indiana the champ? Is Indiana. Now, do you look at Indiana has the pathway to be the national champs. Is that going to happen or could they be upset?

[Kerry Rhodes]

Oh, they can be upset. Today they play Alabama, Obviously Alabama's not Nick Saban. Alabama, but they're Alabama. They can win a game and we just.

[Rob Parker]

Where are you from?

[Kerry Rhodes]

I'm from Alabama.

[Rob Parker]

I just want to check you on that, that's all. I'm always, you know me, I'm gonna always pull a curtain back. I'm not mad at you for being from Alabama, but I always.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Roll tie, baby.

[Rob Parker]

See, I know, I'm just saying.

[Kerry Rhodes]

But what I'm saying is you picked him every year.

[Rob Parker]

Are you.

[Kerry Rhodes]

I don't. I'm not a fan now.

[Rob Parker]

I mean, are you. Are you. Kelvin Washington picked everything. Detroit, every time.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Absolutely not.

[Yogi Roth]

Okay.

[Rob Parker]

All right.

[Kerry Rhodes]

I actually, I actually pick against them in big games just to mess with my family.

[Yogi Roth]

Exactly.

[Rob Parker]

They all like.

[Kerry Rhodes]

What do you mean exactly?

[Rob Parker]

Don't you know this is your birth state? What are you doing exactly?

[Kerry Rhodes]

No, they have a chance to win. I'm not saying they are. And I, I think Indiana will. I mean, they have a really good chance to win today. We just talked about it, though. Teams that have the double BY A what?05, Rob.

[Rob Parker]

Right.

[Kerry Rhodes]

And so we're going to see like taking all that time off.

[Rob Parker]

But would you change that? Like, seriously now, now you got a big enough sample size? It's not okay. Last year, okay, just a freak, a fluke or whatever. Ohio State goods knocked out, looks rusty from the start. And I'm going to get Miami played well. So I'm not trying to poo poo them, but Ohio State didn't seem like.

[Kerry Rhodes]

They, they started slow, right?

[Rob Parker]

Slow. Really, really slow.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah, you cannot, you cannot dip your toe in the water when it comes to playoff football. Playoff anything. You got to come ready to go. And they weren't ready to go to start.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, that's what I always think about college football. Just the layoff between the end of the regular season, even just for a bowl game. Right. And they, oh, no, we gotta wait until the playoffs. I mean, until the holidays to put those games on. And then there's like a month, like 25 days, a long time.

[Kerry Rhodes]

And we don't like it. We're practicing without a game. So think about that process. So even just from the player standpoint, you get tired of going against each other.

[Rob Parker]

Right?

[Kerry Rhodes]

And we've seen that even in training camp. That's why training camp is hard. It's not because you're doing all these reps and you're out in the like. No, you're practicing every day with not a. There's a goal, but not a goal. That's right. In front of your face that you can see.

[Rob Parker]

That's what I always thought. This is just me. Why football wouldn't be fun. And I'm just. Yeah. Is that. You practice more than you play.

[Kerry Rhodes]

You do.

[Rob Parker]

Like, for me, as a baseball guy who played baseball.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Baseball, yeah.

[Rob Parker]

You play all. You play all the. Am I right? Like there's such a difference. Like, just practice, practice. And then you just get that one game. You know what I mean? And I get it. It's a crescendo. Crescendo. You know, like. Right. Build up. But baseball's like, you don't have time to worry about. I was over 4 yesterday. I got another game today.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Another game, you're over four, and then you're two. Two before the next game.

[Rob Parker]

Exactly.

[Kerry Rhodes]

You're a Hall of Famer.

[Rob Parker]

You know what I mean? Like 100%.

[Kerry Rhodes]

But in football, you get one opportunity at the end of the week, and if you screw that up, you got a whole nother week to. To think about it.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, it is something. And it sent shockwaves, no doubt, through college football. Was Miami's upset last night a bad thing for college football? Kerry says no. I say, yes, it is bad. I don't care what you say. 877-484-3437. That's 8-7-7 for the herd. I need more tea. My God, I'm really, really struggling. All right, we'll continue that conversation next with you. It is the Herd. Yes, you heard it right. It is Rob Parker, Kerry Rhodes sitting in for Colin Cowherd right here on Fox Sports Radio. And you know what you need to do? Stick and stay in the year of the Horse in the usa. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Katie Couric]

Head into 2026, it's safe to say that 2025 was a year like no other. So much news, so much disruption, and yes, so much division. That's why we're wrapping up this season of Next Question with a look back at everything that's happened. Things are coming at us with such a velocity, we thought it was important to take a moment, connect the dots and explore what it all means. We're summing up the first year of Trump's second term with David Graham on Project 2025 and how many of the goals have been implemented. Richard Haass on foreign policy and the changing world order. Jessica Valenti on reproductive rights and the terrifying consequences of abortion bans. Tina Brown on the year scandals here and across the po. The President has upended everything from pardons to the press, so we're covering it all. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Hi, I'm Radhi Devlukia and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the Crappy Childhood Fairy, a creator, teacher and guide, helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds, wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story. What helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend and they broke my jaw and my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed and I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait, they could kill me. And I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this. And I did listen to a really good cry on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rob Parker]

Happy New Year. It is New Year's Day here on the Herd. Rob Parker with former all pro safety Kerry Rhodes sitting in for Colin. And I want you to know, to get more of us, be sure to check out the brand new Odd Couple YouTube channel. Just search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube. Again, that's Odd Couple FSR, so be sure to hit that subscribe button. Don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. Just search Odd Couple FSR and subscribe. Yogi Roth from the Big Ten Network will be joining us here on the Herd. Coming up in about 15, 10 minutes, I should say. Coming up soon. And we'll talk about a lot of other stuff, including some NFL stuff, of course. Kerry played in the NFL with the jets and the Arizona Cardinals. What other team did I miss?

[Kerry Rhodes]

That was it. That was it.

[Rob Parker]

That's what I thought. Just the two teams. So we'll do that and much more. We are taking phone calls here on the Herd and we'd love to hear from you. Our number is 877-484-3437. That's 8, 7, 7 for the herd. And David. Oh, did we lo. We lost him. What happened? David in Memphis called back. Sorry about that. We just was going to go to David. Rob, do you hit the button? We just lost him. Oh, he just. He didn't do anything. All right, Rob G. We also. Can you jump on? We also talked about Lanning, who had some statements about college football and the NFL.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Okay, what happened? What's going on with that?

[Rob Parker]

We got Rob G. Rob, you on. Okay, his button is not working. We go. Turned it on for. Okay, there we go.

[Kerry Rhodes]

There we go.

[Rob Parker]

What's up? Happy New Year.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Rob, when you're working out of the. The attic here at Fox Sports Radio, yes.

[Rob Parker]

This is a little different for us. We're not in our usual studio.

[Kerry Rhodes]

No, we're used to the high end, everything hd.

[Rob Parker]

Sorry about that.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Large televisions. And now I got a. Speakers that don't work, a button that doesn't light up and all that stuff. ROB D. You're spoiled, man. I know. Slumming it right now, but yeah, we're.

[Rob Parker]

Back in the wood paneling back here.

[Kerry Rhodes]

One game we're keeping an eye on, of course is the Oregon Texas Tech bowl game, quarterfinals for the playoffs. And leading up to the game, a lot of the conversation was not so much on the game itself, which obviously is a huge game. It was more so on Dan Lannington's comments about the state of college football, the calendar, and more specifically how the NFL has infringed upon our freedom. Take a listen.

[Rob Parker]

I've got a ton of respect for the NFL, but we're a prep league for the NFL. We do a lot of favors for the NFL. Right. We're the, we're the minor league in a lot of ways. But there's no money paid from the NFL to take care of college football. Right.

[Kerry Rhodes]

And in that sense, we've given up.

[Rob Parker]

Some of our days. Right. To the NFL. We said, oh, this is. You guys get to have this day. You get to have this day. You get to have this day. Saturday should be sacred for college football. Right. And every Saturday through the month of December should belong to Saturday, you know, to college football, in my opinion. And, and I saw Kerry reacted like, what is he saying? But I'm with Dan Lanning. You're with Dan? Yes. Because the NFL, they're bullies. And Kerry, I know you're an NFL vet, all that. And I respect, you know, being able to make it to the league.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes, yes.

[Rob Parker]

But they have infringed on Saturdays with college football. How? They've got. There's a law. ROB G. We talked about the law. It's a television agreement that said you can't. ROB G. What was that broadcast law that said high school football on Friday, college football on Saturday, and the NFL on Sunday. So that they wouldn't, the NFL couldn't, you know, overshadow and overshadow like high school football and local level and college football or whatever.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

And how they've gotten away with it is because they, on Saturday they do the streaming and they did Friday, Black Friday games on streaming, not on broadcast television.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

And, and his only point is. And you, and you, you know, people look at the NBA. They took over Christmas from the NBA. So this is the NBA. I get it. They're the big guy in the room. They're the bully.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

But I do understand. And, and if you're going to be Dan Lanning and, and the college football, then you have to make it clear to the NFL like, hey, let us have Saturday. Like, like let us have Saturday. Cause what was the, what was the game? There was a game against the NFL like right. Two Saturdays ago or whatever. Like, you know, a college football game or. What was that? I don't know. Was that like, you know, they're playing on the same day, but you have to wage a real war. And what I mean by that, if you're college football is if you guys don't want to work with us, we might have to cut off the access that we give you to our athletes, to our intel, you know what I mean? Because they have a free minor league system. And he talked about it.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Rob, Cutting off the access to the university or to their players isn't going to help anybody though.

[Rob Parker]

No, but I'm just saying. Yeah, I get for the players, but remember, everybody doesn't make it to the NFL. So it's a handful. I mean, it sounds good. The two or three guys. There's a whole other group of guys. And all I'm saying is you gotta have some sort of working relationship. We foot the bill for a lot. When I say we. College football, The Dodgers have 10 minor league teams that they have to pay. Coaches, fields.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

That comes out of their money. NFL doesn't have any of that. They don't have to. They just do their business and they got this free feeder system that they don't have to do anything with. And that's all I'm saying is like the last thing we want. We're not even asking for money.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Right.

[Rob Parker]

Can we have Saturdays, high school football, Fridays, college football, Saturdays and then NFL, which you've already seen between Monday, Thursday night and now they got the Black Friday game. They play games on Saturday. Yeah, that's all. I don't think he's. What he's saying is ridiculous.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah, but I would say just check, check the temperature of the room as well. All right. The stuff you're saying is 100% right. And I can understand him saying that from that perspective, but then you look at college football and what days do college football play on? Is it just solely Saturday? Well, but I'm just saying like, so, like they've taken steps to, you know, find extra days to play on and have moments to stand alone. On Fridays they have Friday night games. So they have, they've started to spread their Hawaii. And so if they're saying the NFL does that, the high school can say they're a farm league for college and they're taking their day. So like everybody has.

[Rob Parker]

But the difference is those high school games aren't on national television.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Some of them are.

[Rob Parker]

Well, but the majority. And they know because they see the ratings being heard in college football. College football ratings are down. You know what I mean? Despite these teams and, and all the money that's involved and all that other stuff, it ain't as easy as it has been. Yeah, Rob G. Do we have this call here or is that, is that the. No, no, no, I just. Oh, it dropped it. So we got, we got problems here on the phone. This all, it's all good. I just thought that was the same guy. I was trying to get in here on the odd couple. Yeah, so, but, but the only way, talking about it ain't gonna get nothing done. That's all I'm saying. It'd have to be a real, a real like all out war in order to get them to understand like how important this is. And I'm just saying you have to mark your material, your territory. The NBA just rolled over. They did, you know, and now they find themselves where Christmas Day, which is crazy. And the NBA rolled out these ratings for those games and the NFL just said, well, look at our ratings. They doubled or tripled what you guys.

[Kerry Rhodes]

For games that didn't even matter. But I think it comes to this, Rob, like, what's the real contingency plan, right? Like we can have these gripes. People can say certain things out loud and can be one offs and stand on your own. But like somebody like a Dan Lannan who's been a really great coach and, and coaches one of the best teams in college football in Oregon, like, why not have this conversation with the powers to be in college and NFL and not, not the fans, you know what I mean? Like, that doesn't matter, right?

[Rob Parker]

There's no, there's no doubt that, that, that's a conversation that you have to have. But we are where we are. And what I mean is everything is public. All these press conferences, all that stuff. It wasn't always like that, you know, where you heard all these things. So it wasn't like he was standing on top of the Empire State Building yelling.

[Kerry Rhodes]

You know what I mean?

[Rob Parker]

He's in a press conference, they ask him about something and then boom. Guys get on their soapbox a little bit. And that's usually where that kind of stuff comes from. But it is interesting just as the NFL continues to just monopolize. And I've said it all the time. The NFL people don't remember it when they. When they came off of cbs, CBS didn't want to pay the rights fees. And the NFL people don't remember when the NFL was taken off of network television. Monday Night Football people don't. Because the ratings weren't good on Monday Night Football. Monday Night Football. That's why they came off of abc.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Okay, people.

[Rob Parker]

Because Monday Night Raw had better ratings than Monday Night Football. Did you know that?

[Kerry Rhodes]

I didn't know that.

[Rob Parker]

People should look at it. What year Taglabu was the commissioner. So I got to go back to that. I don't know the exact year.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Like 90s.

[Rob Parker]

And supposedly he went to Vince McMahon and tried to get them to move Monday Night Raw because they were affecting people were. And then this thing called the. What's the football? Fantasy football came along and changed that. Changed everything. Because I used to be. If you were a fan of a particular team, like your team, the Jets. I grew up and I was a Jets fan. Fantasy football made me care about games that had nothing to do with my team. Cause I had a player on the Jacksonville Jaguars. So now I'm watching and I'm interested in that game where before I was never interested in any. And that's how you take something from regional to a national interest. And then you add the element of gambling on top of it. And that's. But. But those were the two things. Fantasy football. People winning money and being. And caring about games. A meaningless Jacksonville game against the Panthers. All of a sudden people are watching on a Monday night because they're on his team. They don't care who wins or loses. So. So it was of that ilk. It was. It was amazing. And so that has. What happened. All right, now let's welcome in Yogi Roth from the Big Ten Network. Of course, analysts and the host of the Y Option podcast. And Yogi, Happy New Year. Say hello to Kerry Rhodes. Here on the Herd. What's happening?

[Yogi Roth]

A lot's happening. Happy New Year to you two as well. Thanks for having me on. Big fan of all the work that y' all do. And it is a. It's a beautiful morning. I'll be it a little rainy. We just finished our pregame show, as you reference, on the Big Ten Network out here at the Rose bowl and just kind of getting going here with the Oregon game. So it is going to be a fun New Year's Day.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yogi, how many why options can you still run right now? You still can run a couple of those.

[Yogi Roth]

You know, I can. I'll sit down, get past the sticks, and I'll get down. That's all I got, but I'm in.

[Rob Parker]

All right, Yogi, let's go to last night's game. And you know, Miami dominated. Should have been probably leading by three scores in the first half. They're up by two. They dominated that game. And here's Ohio State. Hadn't played in 25 days, the number one seed. All that out the window. And we look at it, and now teams with the buys are now.05 in this new format. Is this a problem in college football or not?

[Yogi Roth]

Yeah, it's a cool question. I still don't think we have all the data. I mean, talk to me at the end of the night, you know, maybe it's a different answer. I think that we do have in college football, number one. I think we ought to give Miami a ton of credit.

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[Rob Parker]

No doubt. They dominated. They earned that win. I'm not even trying to poo poo.

[Yogi Roth]

Yeah, no, I know that. And you've always been that way. I think what stood out to me in that game for Ohio State first was their last two games, they've had moments. Their margin for error has just. The surprising part has been so small, Right? Indiana, they had two or three runs that almost broke. They would have won the game. If they make one of those plays, they don't throw that pick six. Who knows what happens in the second half, But I'm with you. That was surprising for me. I thought Ohio State would go and have a chance to repeat. They don't. To your point on the layoff, we just got done talking about, Indiana is now 26 days. Texas Tech, they're down early. 26 days.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Oh, wow.

[Yogi Roth]

And I think it speaks more to the calendar of we should be playing the title game right now. Like, you know, I started thinking about it last night of the NFL. Like, the top seeds still get buys but they're only off for a week.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yep.

[Yogi Roth]

You know, they're not offer three. Almost a month.

[Rob Parker]

Right.

[Yogi Roth]

So I think that they're going to look at this. I think the calendar is getting just too much momentum from coaches. I mean, look at the game you're watching now in Oregon. Tosh Lupo, Will Stein just get their dream jobs to be head coaches and they're coordinating a team and all their focus is there. Brian Hartline last night for Ohio State. You could put your focus there, but you also have to put it elsewhere. And I just think it doesn't make a lot of sense. And what's going to happen if we play this thing out in my eyes in five years? It's college football just doesn't become entertaining anymore outside of the games. And the NFL is entertaining outside of the games. We love free agency. We love the draft. We love the portal, if you will. I think college football can learn a thing or two from that, and I hope they do make those necessary changes.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah, Yogi, that's a great point. I mean, we kind of glossed over the Brian the Heart line not being able to call plays last night because of his new job affiliation and, you know, Day going back to play calling. Do you think that had any effect on the slow start or do you just attribute it to the 25 days off?

[Yogi Roth]

I think it all contributes to it. I mean, Ryan Day is so accomplished as a play caller, it's hard to criticize him based on just his pedigree and what he's always done. But it's been two years, so I think it's a fair thing to bring up. When you add in the 25 days off, the injuries on the offensive line they dealt with, they had a different starting offensive line group and then they had to change again at the half due to an injury. So I think you combine all those things, plus Miami strength as their front seven.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes, yes.

[Yogi Roth]

I mean, them in Indiana and Oregon. I mean, you kind of talk a lot of these CFP teams, but it's an explosive, violent group. I mean, that is their strength defensively. And two weeks in a row, or two games in a row, rather, Ohio State got exposed up front and that was the thing that I was most looking forward to in the game because you guys know this. When a coach finds a flaw within themselves, like Ohio State. Did they give up five sacks against Indiana? I think they had six all season heading into the Big Ten title game. And they gave up a bunch more again last night. I thought they would have found Ways to shore that up. They tried to with tempo and getting the ball out, but ultimately it just wasn't enough.

[Rob Parker]

How about Miami? Where, where are they now? Can they really upset the Apple card or was this a one off?

[Yogi Roth]

I'll tell you what, my favorite graphic thus far in the CFP that we saw on TV last night was since that game in 2002, 2003, the national title game between those two teams. Yeah, I think Miami's only had four 10 win seasons and Ohio State had something like 18.

[Rob Parker]

Wow.

[Yogi Roth]

And that like I wrote it down somewhere that it's clearly not in front of me now. I apologize. But it was easy to see that. And you know, I've known Coach Cristobal as you guys have for a long time and I think there, there is something that's cliche but accurate in college football when the U is back, when the Trojans are rolling. Like there is something to the, to the blue bloods being really blue because it's so easy to take shots at them when they're down. It's also amazing to watch Indiana and Texas Tech have this crazy elevation that they've never seen in their historic programs respectively. But overall, yeah, I think it's real. Watching Mario rebuild Oregon within the trenches and then pass it off to Dan Lanning who's taken it to another level. And then when he left to take over his alma mater, just a program that we all remember. My kids have no idea what Miami was like back in the day. I don't know if wild, wild Yogi either. I remember playing against Otra Roll and Sean Taylor and Jonathan Vilma like that. What, Ken Dorsey, we played those. Jeremy Shockey, it was awesome that back in the old Big East. So yeah, I think, I think they're real and we'll see how this thing shakes out. But can you imagine Oregon, Miami, like, how much fun would that be with Mario Cristobal and Dan Lanning just for the drama of college football in the national title game, it would be awes.

[Rob Parker]

Our guest is Yogi Roth from the Big Ten Network, of course, an analyst and host of the Y Option podcast. Joining us here on the Herd, Rob Parker. Kerry Rhodes in for Colin on this New Year's Day.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yogi, you cover the Big Ten a lot. And obviously when we look at the Big Ten in football, we think about Ohio State, Michigan. Obviously Indiana has kind of jumped in, in that party, in that mix.

[Rob Parker]

I'm rooting against Indiana. We're going to talk about that coming up. They're not the Little Engine that could. They're not.

[Kerry Rhodes]

No, no, no. But Indiana joins the party with those two. But we always talk about the Big Ten and the SEC being the pillars of college football and I just, I think we put too much credence in that. And I think individually some of these teams deserve a little bit more credit. Like, do you really think that the Big Ten in the SEC is head and shoulders above when it, when we talk about the full body of work of these, of these conferences.

[Yogi Roth]

Head and shoulders I think is aggressive. And I come at it from the lens of I used to work for the PAC 12. So I know what it was like to be the only of the very few people. You're kind of fighting for a league, trying to talk about the strength. And when I look at the Big 12, I see the old Pac 12 of a bunch of really good teams that, you know, beat each other in one score, high scoring game.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Exactly.

[Yogi Roth]

When I look at the acc, I'm a pit alum. You know, it's still weird for me to think of Pitt in the ACC and it's been almost damn near 20 years for them being in that league. I think here's the truth that I've learned in the last two seasons, calling all Big Ten games and really embedding myself within that league. And I'd say the same for the SEC to go in nine conference games for the Big Ten SEC thankfully, thank the Lord, will go there next year and get out of that Week 11 game that majority of them have. It's brutal. It's just hard. I mean Minnesota is a tough out, SC a tough out, Washington a tough out. Like that's the challenge, I think as the years go on. And if you asked me last year, your biggest takeaway of the Big Ten, I would have said, man, I didn't think the quarterback play was as good as I wanted it to be. Yeah, this season it's been the best in the history of the Big Ten. And I've checked that with Jerry DiNardo who's been a Big Ten Network analyst for nearly 20 years and he co sign on that and you look up and down the league, look at whether it's Damon Williams or Dante Moore or Myava Dylan Rayola at the time when he was at Nebraska. Look at Mark Gronowski and what he just did against Tennessee and Iowa. Like you start looking at it. Drake Lindsey at Minnesota will not get a lot of play, but he'll be drafted in two years. He's a big time pocket passer. I started looking at that and then when I talk to guys in the portal, Fernando Mendoza being one of them, they want to come play in this league, in the Big Ten or the sec. So it's becoming the power too. And I'll finish with this. What is surprising most in my sidebar conversations with coaches and athletic departments is there's a desire to get as they've called to the power to. And I never thought I'd hear that, but that whether that's resources, whether that's exposure, whether that's media, whatever it is. But to me, the Big Ten is that it is different. And I'll surprise you. And then I guess the last part was the fan bases, like the. The care factor through the roof. I mean, it's crazy, man. I'm calling Rutgers, Purdue, winless Big Ten teams in late September, and it's sold out.

[Rob Parker]

Wow.

[Yogi Roth]

West Lafayette, like, that is a really cool element. So I do think the diversity of players scheme, the quarterbacks are now finding their way. Coaches want to this league. The money, resources have a part to do with that. And then the tradition, of course, carries it. So head and shoulders. No. But are they separating? I think so. I feel that being embedded in it.

[Rob Parker]

All right. And Yogi, I would be remiss without asking you who you're named after.

[Yogi Roth]

Oh, Yogi, thanks for asking. Yeah, often people think it's Yogi Berra.

[Rob Parker]

Well, there's only two yogis, Yogi Bear and Yogi Berra.

[Josh Whalen]

Right?

[Rob Parker]

There's only two.

[Yogi Roth]

Well, I'll add a third.

[Kerry Rhodes]

No, it's three.

[Yogi Roth]

So my family, my parents studied Eastern philosophy forever. So every kid got a Hindu name as their. As one of their either first or middle name. And then the other one was Hebrew because my mom was born and raised in the Middle east and Israel. So Yogi is like if you practice yoga, right. If you trying to bring some union to the world in this chaotic world, we're all arguing.

[Rob Parker]

Yes.

[Yogi Roth]

Right. You go to yoga class, you get centered. They decided to give me that name and tried to shake it early on because of course you found when you're a kid and an athlete.

[Rob Parker]

Right.

[Yogi Roth]

Really proud of it now. And hopefully I can do that and you know, every part of my life.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Well, thank your parents for me.

[Rob Parker]

Yes, thank you. Well, that's awesome. And I always, when I hear names that, you know, you don't hear that often, I always want to ask, you know what I mean, where. Where they came from. But. Yogi Roth, man, we appreciate you. Thanks for joining us here on the Herd.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Thank you, Yogi.

[Yogi Roth]

Heck, yeah. Happy New Year. Enjoy and keep killing it. It's enjoy watching you guys.

[Rob Parker]

Thank you, buddy.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Happy New Year.

[Rob Parker]

All right. Dan Campbell really put his foot in his mouth this week. Yes, he did. We'll get into that next. It is the Herd. You heard that, Rob Parker, Kerry Rhodes sitting in for Colin right here on Fox Sports Radio. Stick and stay driving usa. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9:00am Pacific. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason Mac. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at the Sportsbook, and all the best guests. Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Rob Parker]

This is Lavar Arrington from 2 pros and a Cup of Joe. Pizza Hut threw down a challenge and it's genius. Quarterbacks say Hut constantly. It's like they're asking for Pizza Hut by name. Pizza Hut is challenging any quarterback. Put pizza before they say Hut. During the televised game, Pizza Hut will throw an actual pizza party in the city for the first QB that does it during a televised game, fans get the win.

[Kerry Rhodes]

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[Rob Parker]

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[Katie Couric]

Learn [e-mail] as we head into 2026, it's safe to say that 2025 was a year like no other. So much news, so much disruption, and yes, so much division. That's why we're wrapping up this season of Next Question with a look back at everything that's happened. Things are coming at us with such a velocity, we thought it was important to take a moment, connect the dots and explore what it all means. We're summing up the first year of Trump's second term with David Graham on Project 2025 and how many of the goals have been implemented. Richard Haass on foreign policy and the changing world order. Jessica Valenti on reproductive rights and the terrifying consequences of abortion bans. Tina Brown on the year scandals here and across the pond. The president has upended everything from pardons to the press, so we're covering it all. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Radhi Devlukia]

Hi, I'm Radhi devlukia and I am the host of a really Good Cry podcast. This week I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the Crappy Childhood Fairy, a creator, teacher and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story. What helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend and they broke my jaw and my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait, they could kill me And I'm not gonna let that happen. I'm not gonna let that happen. I'm gonna get through this. And I did listen to a really good cry on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rob Parker]

It is the Herd on New Year's Day. Rob Parker, former All Pro safety, Kerry Rhodes sitting in for Colin and the crew here on the Herd, right here on Fox Sports Radio. I think my voice carries. All right. I've been drinking hot tea, trying to get myself together on this New Year's Day, it will be a double dip dip for yours truly. I'll be on the Odd Couple Tonight starting at 7pm Eastern, right here on Fox Sports Radio. Martin Weiss and I, I will have.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Some fun putting in that work.

[Rob Parker]

That's right. But you're the official Odd Couple side piece. Just not today, because you're doing this show. No, nobody's side piece. Look at that.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Nobody side piece.

[Rob Parker]

Rob G. One of my favorite coaches, Dan Gamble. I mean, Dan Campbell from the Detroit Lions.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Oh, my God.

[Rob Parker]

He was waxing poetically about his quarterback, Jared Goff.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah, Jared Goff, you mentioned in the commercial break, had one of the worst first closing to a season is possible last year against the Commanders in the playoffs, had four turnovers this year and a must win. Got to have a game against the Minnesota Vikings, has five.

[Rob Parker]

So you know what that means, right? Rob G. And Carrie, what that means. He had more turnovers than a bakery. Than a bakery. There we go. Yes.

[Kerry Rhodes]

And so afterwards, Rob Parker came on Fox Sports Radio and said, you got to get rid of Jared Goff. And I think that they heard that in Detroit because Dan Campbell was asked about it, and he said, quote, jared's an absolute stud. He's a pro.

[Rob Parker]

He's going nowhere. Yeah, you're right. He's not going to the Super Bowl. Neither are the Lions. And Jared Goff, Here we go. He puts up numbers. I get it.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Carrie, they didn't like, like, there's different levels to everything. It's great to win regular season games. The Lions with the young nucleus and the players that they've signed and where they were.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

The idea is to get to the Super Bowl.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

Like, so. So let's not. Let's stop acting like, like, just winning nine games is great and we're all happy schmappy and all that.

[Kerry Rhodes]

It is Detroit, though. Okay.

[Rob Parker]

But three years ago, they were in the NFC Championship game, blowing out the 49ers in San Francisco in the first half.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Okay.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

That was a Fail. Yeah. Then they get the top seed in the NFC home field throughout the playoffs. 15 2, franchise record.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Whatever.

[Rob Parker]

Rookie quarterback Jane Daniels shows up.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rob Parker]

And. And as much as he played well, the reason they lost was Jared Goff. They were nine and a half point favorites because people say, well, the defense was banged up. No, no, no. Vegas gave you nine. It was nine and a half. Even with the defense. Those hurt. Those players were already hurt before that game. Yeah. They knew the Lions could outscore the commanders. Right. That's why ten and a nine and a half points.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Jared Goff has the four turnover. Just a terrible game.

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[Rob Parker]

Here we go to this year. They need to stay alive. They. They need to win both games. Your last two games, they playing Minnesota with a third string quarterback who had net three net yards for the game. He threw for 51 yards. I think 41 yards in sacks, right? Yeah. Lost yards. He had three. That was pl. It was. He had three passing yards total. And Jared Goff has five turnovers in that game.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

There's a common denominator. I'm convinced you can't get there. I just. I've seen enough of Jared Goff. Good quarterback. I don't think you could get there. That's why the Rams gave up on him.

[Kerry Rhodes]

Yeah, I understand why the Rams gave up on him. But for the Lions and what he's brought to that team, he is their guy. There's no guy you're going to bring in that's going to be better than him right now. And yes, all that stuff you said is true. Those years were failures. But. But you're not getting anybody better than Jared Goff right now.

[Rob Parker]

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