THE HERD - Hour 1 - NCAA Hit Michigan Where It Hurts, TJ Houshmandzadeh talks Shedeur Sanders

Summary

Below is a detailed summary of the episode “THE HERD – Hour 1 – NCAA Hit Michigan Where It Hurts, TJ Houshmandzadeh talks Shedeur Sanders” from The Herd with Colin Cowherd, released on August 15, 2025.

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1. Episode Overview
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   • This episode weaves together a variety of sports topics, with the major focus on college football NCAA infractions hitting the University of Michigan hard—both financially and in its postseason potential—as well as discussions about emerging NFL quarterback talent and the evolving role of media and confidence in young athletes.
   • In addition to the core discussion on Michigan’s sign-stealing penalties and their implications, the episode is interspersed with snippets from several iHeart-promoted podcasts (for example, “Hoax,” “no Such Thing,” and “Fut around and find out”) that set the stage for the multi-layered audio experience typical of this programming block.

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2. Promotional & Introductory Segments (00:00 – 02:34 and later interludes)
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• The show opens with a montage of promos and teasers from various iHeart podcasts:
  – A brief teaser for “Hoax” recounts the 1920 fairy photo hoax penned by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle ([00:00] – [00:27]).
  – Multiple short spots introduce shows like “no Such Thing,” “Native Lamp Pod,” “America’s Crime Lab,” and “Fut around and find out,” each highlighting their unique blend of humor, expertise, and cultural commentary.
• These segments create an energetic atmosphere and remind listeners to check out iHeartRadio content across a broad range of topics—from historical hoaxes to sports “behind the scenes” stories.

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3. Main Discussion – NCAA Infractions and Michigan’s Punishment (Approximately 02:36 – 22:09)
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• Host Doug Gottlieb (filling in for Colin Cowherd) dives into a lengthy analysis discussing a recent NCAA investigation into the University of Michigan’s football program.
  ◦ Gottlieb opens by comparing the NCAA’s regulatory structure to a “conglomerate of schools” rather than a monolithic organization, noting that every collegiate program uses similar practices.
  ◦ He explains that sign stealing has long been part of the game—even if teams try to mask its methods—citing how even Bill Belichick’s controversial filming practices are not entirely without precedent.
• Key Points on the Michigan Incident:
  ◦ Michigan is being penalized for sophisticated “sign-stealing” tactics, resulting in severe financial penalties:
   – A four-year probation period
   – A fine of $50,000 plus 10% of the football program’s budget
   – Loss of anticipated postseason revenue sharing for 2025 and 2026
   – Reductions in official football visits and scholarship allotments
   – Show cause penalties for key figures (with one coach reportedly receiving an eight-year show cause penalty, and another facing a three-year penalty)
  ◦ Gottlieb emphasizes that while many teams practice advanced scouting and signal recognition, Michigan’s punishment is “hitting where it hurts—in the wallet.”
  ◦ Notable Quote [06:42]: “What they did is they got caught doing it at a higher level—when you’re winning, you’re in people’s heads. And then it all comes tumbling down in fines and lost revenue.”
• Gottlieb discusses the broader implications for the college sports landscape, including how financial penalties (taking 10% of scholarships and budget) will hurt not only the football program but also ancillary sports dependent on that funding.
• He also suggests that Michigan may appeal or even sue given the financial stakes, comparing the NCAA’s new “lawsuit-proof” rules on roster limitations to previous scholarship restrictions.

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4. Analysis on Quarterback Play and the Modern Athlete (Approximately 22:09 – 36:56)
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• Transitioning from NCAA controversies, the conversation shifts to quarterback performance in the modern NFL and the challenges for emerging players in the era of social media and influence.
  ◦ Discussion centers on a new quarterback’s impressive showing in his first NFL preseason game—a rarity especially for fifth-round picks.
  ◦ Guest TJ Hushmanzada (a former Pro Bowl wide receiver and known as “the wide receiver whisperer”) breaks down the quarterback’s on-field poise, his ability to read defenses, and the potential to transition from backup status despite injury concerns.
• Key Discussion Points:
  ◦ The value of supreme confidence in young athletes vs. perceived arrogance.
  ◦ The impact of an entourage—often consisting of family or close confidants—on a player’s performance and media presence.
  ◦ How evolving social media habits (recording every moment) fit into the mix of modern athlete branding and performance.
• Notable Quote [31:04]: “I promise you, if you don't have belief, you might as well give it up.”
  – This emphasizes the belief that confidence is a critical asset for success, even if it sometimes tips into cockiness.
• The two hosts touch on the balancing act between embracing modern cultural norms (like maintaining a social media presence) and the traditional responsibilities of a quarterback. They note that while a backup can have a presence, it becomes challenging to sustain if the player does not earn starter minutes.

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5. Additional Sports News and Listener Banter (Approximately 36:56 – 45:20)
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• The conversation then pivots to further NFL news and updates, including:
  ◦ Concerns over veteran quarterback Matt Stafford’s practice habits—specifically, that his absence from practice might be a red flag for his health.
  ◦ Comparisons between NFL coaching philosophies and how offensive coordinators like Ben Johnson have resurrected careers in the past.
• The panel also discusses the expectations placed on quarterbacks like Caleb Williams. Questions are raised whether a flashy media presence might distract from on-field focus, especially if the player is not a full-time starter.
• In a lighter segment, host banter touches on humorous topics like how a coach might handle the “hat backwards” debate or playful jabs about former players’ reputations.
• Toward the end of this block, additional news segments from the Herd coverage intersperse sound bites and comments about upcoming games, team standings (e.g., the Dodgers’ situation in MLB, the Commanders’ playoff hopes), and other elements of sports culture.

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6. Concluding Promo and Wrap-up (Approximately 45:20 – 53:48)
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• The show closes by revisiting the core theme via additional promos for the “Hoax” podcast—drawing parallels between historical hoaxes (like the Ern Malley affair) and the modern challenges of distinguishing truth from spectacle—and tying it back to the overarching cultural questions that permeate sports and society.
• Final transitions incorporate yet another round of ad spots and calls to action, encouraging listeners to stream related podcasts on the iHeartRadio app or Apple Podcasts.

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7. Notable Moments and Quotes
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• [00:00 – 00:27] Opening promo highlighting Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s “fairy” photo hoax, setting the tone for questioning why smart people can be fooled.
• [06:42] “What they did is they got caught doing it… hitting where it hurts—in the wallet.” – Doug Gottlieb summarizing Michigan’s punishment.
• [31:04] “I promise you, if you don't have belief, you might as well give it up.” – Emphasizing the importance of confidence in modern athletes, as explained by guest TJ Hushmanzada.
• [35:37] Discussion on Matt Stafford’s absence in practice, noting that “if he didn’t practice, something is bothering him” and that “it is a red flag in a coach’s eyes.”

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8. Overall Tone and Takeaways
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• The episode maintains the Herd’s signature blend of humorous irreverence, detailed sports analysis, and cross-topic commentary that spans from NCAA infractions to NFL quarterback controversies.
• Listeners come away with a greater understanding of how financial penalties and regulatory decisions can ripple through college sports, affecting not only high-profile programs like Michigan’s but also other athletic departments dependent on shared funding.
• Additionally, the discussion on young quarterbacks and modern media habits underlines a critical takeaway: today’s sports figures must balance on-field performance with off-field image—and while confidence can transform a perceived overreach into leadership, it must be managed carefully.

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Final Note
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This densely packed episode of The Herd reconciles hard-hitting sports analysis with the lighter, sometimes absurd intersections of sports, media, and modern athlete culture. Whether discussing the financial sting of NCAA penalties or the evolving landscape of the NFL, the conversation remains engaging and full of personality, inviting listeners to re-examine how we view rules, confidence, and the blurred lines between truth and spectacle in sports.

Be sure to catch future episodes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Enjoy the ride!

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up? Welcome in this is the Herd, wherever you may be and however you May be making this part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for your boy Colin Cowherd. And for the next couple of hours, I want to talk sports with you. This is with weird, right? So Colin moved to the Midwest following me, right? Let's just be honest. I followed him to Fox to where I grew up in Southern California. Then he follows me to the Midwest, but now I'm in California and he's in parts unknown, right? Hey, this is just a thing. I have to state this because it's true. Obviously. Colin and I for years have gone back and forth about the hat backwards thing that he has, right? But here, here's my thing. I'm going to state this because I know it to be true. A lot of you saw our boy Colin Cowherd at Liv Golf last weekend, right? Okay, can we get together and form some sort of petition or have some sort of on air teaching Colin how to wear a hat? Because if you're going to criticize others for wearing their hat backwards and how it looks, that's fine. Then I'm going to criticize you for not understanding the basics of how to wear a ball cap, which is you don't put it on top of your hair so that your hair is still showing. That's not ball cap wearing 101. Everybody knows it. And when you wear it that way, much like he believes you have your hat backwards, you wear it that way, it gives off the perception of you. You're trying to be a younger bro. It's not actually, I disagree. But again, he's talking about perception. I'm telling you, the perception is that guy's never played a sport in his life, definitely never played baseball if he doesn't know how to wear a ball cap. Is that fair? Okay, so I just, I wanted. I was waiting for this day. Maybe the last day I fill in for Cohen. It's very possible, okay? I love my boy, but I saw him last week and I was like, can Middlekoff. Middle cough doesn't have this. Cause he has no hair, right? He, he, he, he fired it before it quit on him. I got it. Colin has great hair. That's real hair he's got there. There's no implants, no nothing. That's a real, real mop. And he's been living on this hat backwards thing. He got the Cowboys coach turning his hat around. That really happened this year. Great. Mission accomplished, Colin Cowherd. But, dude, what are you doing? All right, let's get to the story of the day, Michigan was levied fines and suspensions. And look, I don't know if this comes to be. And the reason I say that is I'm actually a coach for Wisconsin Green Bay, which is Division one program. We are under, you know, NCAA rules and regulations just like anybody else. And what I have come to learn, first, observing as a basketball analyst and a radio show host and a TV yacker and now I know, is the general thought in college athletics of the ncaa. And the NCAA is not some darkonian organization made it out to be. It's just the conglomerate of schools. And, you know, it's like being mad at Congress when there's actually, you know, every state has the right to vote their rights. Okay. Vote their opinions for their constituents. And you just say, I don't like Congress. Well, yeah, well, there's 50 states. So you don't like the individual representatives. These are the individual schools. But there is the Board of Infractions, right? The general thought for most people is no matter what rules the NCAA comes up with, if you sue, they'll lose. Now, here's where the NCAA has gotten smart over the past couple years. The new rules and regulations in terms of roster limitations and this opt in that our program is a part of and most college athletic programs outside of the Ivy League are a part of. All of these rules supposedly are lawsuit proof, right? There's a reason that they're put in place. They feel like they're lawsuit proof and they'll stabilize things for the next couple of years, dream scenario, maybe even 10 years of some form of stabilization. So I say that because when I read to you what Michigan's been punished, just understand that very likely that Michigan appeals and sues and tries to get out of it. Right? Okay. So I don't need to go through what they were doing with the sign. Stealing. I can only tell you that, in my opinion, without seeing how much Jim Harbaugh knew. It's one of those, hey, I don't care, you're doing advanced scouting. Give me the calls, get them for me. Give me the calls. And when you're running a program as big as Michigan, in my program, you know, my email right now, I have to. It's. I have to do every. I'm a CEO. I have to worry about every little different department. And, oh, yeah, by the way, much like Doge, what can we cut, what can we keep? How little can we spend to get the most out? Because we have to compensate the student athlete now. But I'm going to commend the ncaa. Look, do I think this was a dog and pony show? I do. Do I think this was. That this was. Do I think there's another Connor Stallions out there? I'm not sure. I don't know. I do know that every college program, basketball or football, tries to figure out what the signs are for the other. For the other team. And that's what you do. What you do, you're not allowed, unless you're playing in a tournament, basketball, to scout in person. So you watch on video. And if they pull on their ear, if they tug on their jersey, if they tap their head, you try and figure out what exactly the set is, what exactly they're doing. So you know what's coming. And if you can't pick it up on video, or even if you can, you call somebody who's played them, because every coach has an assistant or a manager that's sitting on their bench. And when you say, hey, that's earpool, it's ear pull. Write that down. Earpool. What is it? Hey. Then you go in at halftime and you make sure that you. You have it listed. So if they pull in their ear in the second half, this is what they're doing. And usually you know beforehand because you've talked to coaches that have coached against them, because they keep a running tab of what they're calling and how it coincides with what they're doing on the floor. Make sense? Okay, so my point is, I'm not excusing the behavior of Michigan. I'm just telling you that everybody, on some form or fashion does it feels like they overdid it and they got caught and then they won. But once they started winning, they probably. They didn't have this program in place and they were in people's heads. And oh, yeah, by the way, if you didn't know sign stealing took place, why do you have three different people putting the signs out? Because two are fake signs. Right. You know, they're looking. So let's not act like you're surprised that there's somebody in the stands or some video camera trying to get it. That was Bill Belichick's entire argument. Right? We filmed the game. They're. They're running in signs at the game. Why can't we just film the sideline and then what it coincides with on. On the field? The big question for Belichick was, were they filming practice? That, of course, is a no, no. And most coaches are incredibly paranoid if they say a video camera running when they're in an empty gym or an empty stadium, okay? They'll freak out. They'll have somebody go put a towel over it or whatever they do. I mean, heck, if you played youth football and I did, you know this, right before the game, you'll be running through plays. What do you do with the players who aren't involved? You line them up so the other coach can't look down and see what you're doing. Right. And every high school football coach, college football coach, has been paranoid for years at practice and at covering up what you're doing. You know, high school coaches especially making sure there's empty stadiums when they're running through their game plan for the next day. So let's not act like we're surprised that this happens or that Michigan's the only one doing it. They got caught doing it at a higher level and then ultimately succeeding while doing it. Here's the punishment. Four years of probation, financial penalties, a $50,000 fine plus 10% of the budget of the football program and equivalent to the anticipated loss of all postseason competition revenue sharing associated with the 2025, 2026 football seasons. A fine equivalent to the cost of 10% of scholarships awarded to Michigan's football programs in the 2526 academic year. A 25% reduction. Official official football visits in 2526, a 14 week probation. Recruiting, communications and the football program during the probation period. And then Connor stallions eight year show cause. Harbaugh, you knew he had a ten year show cause. Denard Robinson wasn't he Shoelaces wasn't his nickname when he when he played or Shoestrings when he played there as quarterback. Three year show cause restricted from all athletically related activities. That's actually a big one. That means he can't really coach in college football. Whereas the show cause means you have to show cause for hiring somebody. It doesn't mean you can't coach, you can't get the job. You have to just go through a infractions committee and say you're sorry and say you've improved. It's much like the probation department, you know, when you're trying. Remember the start of Shawshank Redemption where you have to say that you're a changed man type deal. And then Sharon Moore got a two year show cause but he's still the head coach, so that doesn't matter. And he suspended a total of three games. Michigan imposed a two game suspension for this year. The panel says he's got to be suspended one additional game. Do you want to know why? It's an awesome punishment because it hits them in the wallet. Hey, they're not taking down a banner that we know they earned and that you can't do. You guys remember Men in Black, right? Remember the little silver thing that Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones would hold up and press it and everybody's memory would be erased. Your short term memories is zapped. Don't you wish that occurred in life? Wouldn't that be so cool? You're like in an argument with your girlfriend, your wife, and you're just like, like. What were you even arguing about? I don't know. Babe, how you doing? Right? Reset. Well, the. It's called a neuralyzer. Don't ask me how I know, okay? Men in Black called it a neuralyzer. There is no neuralzer where we can hit the button. And Louisville's 2013 NCAA championship is erased from our memory banks. Right? We all saw it. Okay? We, we, we saw Trey Burke cleanly block Peyton Siva. It didn't get called as a clean block. It changed the momentum of that game. And Rick Patino's Louisville Cardinal. Hey. Luke Hancock and the boys. And end up winning a national championship. That's a real thing. Banner. No banner. Nobody's giving back their rings. Nobody's saying I'm not an NCAA champion. That's just dumb. How do you really punish a university? And the answer is you take their money. Right? And who does this ultimately hurt? That's a lot of money. 10% of the budget of the football program at the University of Michigan. Okay. We calculating coaches salaries in the budget? Yep. We calculating recruiting budget? Yep. Are we calculating rev share in that budget? I don't know that it's going to be a lot of money. Now I'm guessing Michigan will appeal and they'll probably sue because it's a lot of money. And as much as lawyer fees are a lot of money, I just. 10% of scholarships award to Michigan football program. Okay, so what is it? $80,000 scholarship a year? 10% is 8 grand. 8 grand times what do you have? 105. Now in college football, you do the math. That's a lot of money. But that's just the 800 or so grand. Plus you got to take what you were going to get. And you're like, well, what if they didn't make the postseason? No, what they're talking about is everyone in your league gets a portion of the postseason revenue. You get, I believe, two shares if you play. And then if you win, you get additional shares of It. So that's a lot of money. Now they didn't. And I apparently can't take the TV revenue. They can't take the in stadium revenue. Right where you're making probably, I don't know, Michigan, 100,000 people. I can only estimate between 100 and $150 million per year from in stadium revenue. So they'll be fine. Don't get me wrong, but taking away the money is the only way to truly, truly punish college sports programs. Because it is all about the money. Now, you want to know what hurts the most? I would not want to be the coach of Michigan softball. Michigan baseball, swim and diving. Right. I feel terrible for Michigan hockey, women's basketball, because Dusty May, they raised a bunch of money. I got a squad. I know they want to play us. We don't want to play us. And we're like, I don't really want to get 40 piece by Michigan. No, thanks. Not. Not into that. Hey, they got a squad there. I don't know what their budget is. Probably $10 million, right? Maybe, maybe more. 15. I don't know. They have a top 10 program. They're awesome. And they already have the contracts for their roster of football players, right? Those, those contracts are done. They have to pay those players. And I'm guessing it's somewhere in the 20, $25 million range overall with salaries. Right. Because Ohio State was. They won the national championship. Everybody said they were kind of top of the top of the heap in the low 20s. 20 million. So you gotta calculate one, every Michigan's gonna try and get to that level. And then two, there's some sort of inflation. Can we say 25 million? Great. Then you gotta factor in the coaching staff. You're talking about, I don't know, somewhere in the $50 million variety. They have to be. You have to be competitive in football, you have to be competitive in basketball because that's where you make your money. So what I love is that they hit him where it hurts. Again, I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it. I don't know all the facts in the case and I don't have the time to kind of delineate how big a deal this actually is. I do think that this is kind of classic ncaa and it's like anything else. Like, you know, supposedly this is Ohio State fans finding this out, turning them in. We saw what likely Texas fans did to John Mattier this week. It's like you allowing fans to matter is a mistake in litigating something like this in my Opinion, allowing them to be whistleblowers and oh my gosh. Gotcha. Hey. Because what that does is now Michigan fans are going to have their cell phones on and try and find Ohio State guys. And you know, there's all this, you know, all this back and forth. But whatever they did a lengthy investigation. This is what they found out. And for years it was scholarship reductions. Right. And taking down banners. Well, you can't take away scholarships now because if you take away a player's scholarship, you say, hey, instead of, I think it's 105. I'm sorry, we don't have a football program. I don't care about those numbers. They used to be 85. And what they've done is they've done instead of scholarship limitations, it's roster limitations. It's roster limitations. And again, we were told that the reason they did roster limitations, says scholarship limitations is they're lawsuit proof that this is what, this is how sports can survive lawsuits where you're not cutting scholarships, you're simply cutting roster spots. That's all you can have. You can do every, every spot can be a scholarship or half of them can be scholarships or none of them can be spot. You can do whatever you want within your own domain if you opted in. And Michigan, of course, opted in. I'm Doug Gottlieb, in for calling. This is the Hurt fox Sports Radio iHeartradio app. What you need to know is. What you need to know is Michigan got hit with. It hurts. Right? Got hit where it hurts. In the wallet. In the wallet. And if you ask any Michigan coach or administrator, okay. For years they felt like, despite the fact that were Michigan. Huh. That the hardest part for them was raising the money and getting up to the level of Ohio State. Because Ohio State has never cared about anything other than how can we put the best team on the field. Michigan like to have the academic repute. Ohio State just want to win championships. Ohio State's run fast and loose with rules for a lifetime, especially in the football side. Okay. I'm guessing probably Michigan did too. Only they, like Notre Dame, like to feel like they're academically above it. They finally got to the level, a full investment from the university on the football program. And now they're losing what, 10% of their budget and all of their post. What would have been post season revenue. And my guess is what that hurts most is all the Olympic sports. The ones that you don't hear about Olympic sports are pick the one you don't. Soccer, hockey, track and field, lacrosse, any of those ones their budgets chopped. And what you do is then you move it over cleverly to Michigan football. Well, you can't. We cut the budget. There's always ways. Always ways. What do I know? I just work for an NCAA institution. This is the Herd on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app. Coming up next, could Shador Standers be a starter in the NFL? We'll get TJ Hushmanzada's opinion that coming next. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, this is Jay. I'm the producer of the Paulie and Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos, they ask you to listen to the show. I'm here to ask you, please don't. Don't listen to this show. The hosts are two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to this show so it can get canceled. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell are you doing in our studio? Get him, Paulie.

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In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more extraordinary than the magazine articles claim was the identity of the man who wrote the article. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. The man who wrote Sherlock Holmes. Yes. The man who invented literature's most brilliant detective was fooled by two girls into thinking fairies were real. How did they do it? And why does it seem like so many smart people keep falling for outlandish tricks? These are the questions we explore in Hoax, a new podcast from me, Dana Schwartz, the host of Noble Blood, and me, Lizzie Logan.

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[E]

What up with you, Doug Gottlieb and for cowellin, this is the Herd, fox sports radio iHeartradio app. So by now, by now you've seen your NFL team and most NFL teams play. You haven't necessarily seen all your starters play in a preseason game. TJ Oshman's auto will join us. We'll talk some Shador. We'll also talk a couple other quarterbacks of note upcoming. We do have a brand new YouTube channel. For my afternoon show every day on Fox Sports Radio, just go to YouTube.com@doug Gottlieb show. If you're already on YouTube, just search Doug Gottlieb Show. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. You'll have instant access to the very best videos from the show. Go check out our brand new channel again, just search Doug Gottlieb show on YouTube and subscribe. Subscribe. That's a, that's a big thing. All right, let's welcome in the former Pro bowl wide receiver, longtime guest of my show, other shows, of course, he's who Josh Penzada. He joins us now in the Herd on Fox Sports Radio. Who Shador Sanders. So the, the good is after the first couple series, it looked good. You know, look confident, deliver the ball with accuracy, move well in the pocket. Like, I'm not going to sit here and tell you I know the quarterback position like you do or like, like coaches do. But look, it wasn't like he didn't look like he belonged out there. He looked really good. But that's the first preseason game. It's not with the ones, it's not against the ones. And there's a lot of quarterbacks that have looked good, that are young, that are inexperienced and that are not starters. What's your assessment of Shador at this point in time and how he looks?

[F]

I thought he looked great, to be honest with you. And you're right, he wasn't going against the ones. But very rarely do we see a quarterback drafted in the fifth round play this way in his first NFL game ever. We haven't seen that. I don't know if we can recall a quarterback that wasn't drafted in the first round playing like this his first game. Now, obviously we would like to see how he would perform going against starters, but when you Watch that game, the touch, the anticipation he played on time, that translates now. Maybe that first touchdown throwing a back corner against the ones I. When he threw that ball, I was like, oh, that's a pick. Oh, great throw. Maybe that's an incompletion, but he just trusts himself so much. And when you play with confidence, yeah, like it sucks that he's not going to be able to play this weekend because of his oblique injury because I would have liked to seen how he would have looked tomorrow. But that was a first step in the right direction. He should be proud of himself. But we know this playing sports, it's not what you did yesterday, it's what can you do today and tomorrow and every day moving forward.

[E]

Okay, so let's get into it for a second. I actually, you know, it's interesting. I love the path that he had playing college football from this perspective and is he went to a level that was honestly well below his level of competency coming out of high school. Right. He was like a three, four star, whatever. And you know, he's recruited like Southern Miss level, so instead goes to Jackson State, obviously plays for his dad, but he gets to start for two years, then they jump up and he gets to start for two years at Colorado. And because he's. I mean, this is. Honestly, who should. Maybe this is a little bit too much in the Beltway, you know, behind the curtain. But in recruiting at my level and really kind of at any level, but at my level, we don't necessarily want a Power 5 kid transferring down because in order for a Power 5 kid to transfer down to our level, he likely didn't play. So he doesn't have the confidence because he hasn't actually done it before. And because he was at a higher level, he thinks that he's better than he actually is because our level is actually pretty darn good, right? So he did the reverse, which is what we try and do in recruiting, which is, hey, start at this level, kill it and then go to the next level, get paid. But also play against better competition, but you have confidence. And we've recruited two D2 kids that have supreme self confidence because they were dominant Division 2, one Division 3 player. Anyway, point is he's confident, he's well rounded, he's seen lots of different football because he's actually played it. But what everyone said was missing was really two things, right? It was the. In the lack of engagement in those meetings and really it comes down to the feeling of entitlement and then to it from a football Perspective, it's, does he have a big time arm and is he a big time athlete? Let's start with the entitlement piece. Does it as a pro, as a vet, shows up, got the entourage, got a guy carrying his bag, somebody filming him. That's part of who he is. Does that affect the locker room at all?

[F]

No. We gotta understand too, Doug, is this, It's a new day and age, man. These young kids, young men, they've grown up in a influencer era. Everything that they do, they want to record it.

[E]

They.

[F]

They want to have memories that they, they want to have everything on video. That's just what this generation is. And we got to get used to that. Like that. The arrogance, like, oh, he's cocky, he's arrogant. She, he may have been. But I promise you, you want somebody with supreme confidence over somebody that has no confidence.

[E]

There's a middle. There's a middle ground there, right? I mean, look, what they tried to do. What they tried to do is they tried to dictate where he was going. And so that was a lesson learned, right?

[F]

That was a lesson learned from them. If that's what they tried to. That's a lesson learned. But I promise you, I would rather you be cocky, no question. Then you have no confidence because the cockiness that many perceived him to have, he was somewhat humble because of what happened. I, I believe he's going to be a really good player because he has that. I can't be as cocky as I was if I'm trying to control what I go and I go in the fifth round. But I'm gonna be me. And me is uber confident, super belief in myself. And that goes so far. And I think people forget that, man, if you don't have belief, you might as well give it up.

[E]

You could not be more right. TJ Hushman's not a former Pro bowl wide receiver. Joining us, the wide receiver whisperer himself kind of spent some time here with us in the herd that said, hey, can you be. I know it's a new era. I would. We could go back and forth on whether or not it's a new era for quarterbacks with that. But that's. I know, it's new era. Can you be that guy with a media, social media entourage following and be a backup quarterback in the NFL?

[F]

No. Now you, if you're a young guy, if you're a backup, a year or two, possibly, but you, you can be a career backup and have that. No, I don't believe so. Now, the entourage is his Older brother. If so is it really. I mean, that's a family member that's doing the recording is Dion Jr. And so it's tough to have an entourage and people record you in this camera, that camera when you aren't a starter. That, that is going to be tough. But once you become a starter, you're going to have to, you're gonna have to manage it. You, you can't. It can't be over the top all the time. You are going to have to manage it because now other players are gonna feel they can do certain things that they've seen you do and they're not you. And so it's a fine line that they gonna have to walk, but it's so far away. I, I don't mind the video. Everybody is recording themselves. Whether they're gonna record themselves, they're gonna go on live, they're gonna go on ticks, whatever it is, or they gonna have somebody do it and it's done the right way and he's just doing it the right way instead of doing it himself.

[E]

Yeah, he's the only quarterback to be doing it. That's, that's, that's there. The positional part of it is going to be the interesting aspect.

[F]

We've never seen a quarterback do these things, but hey.

[E]

Yeah, but a. Do we lose him?

[F]

No, no, no, no. I'm just sitting here like when these. The quarterback has always been the God that. It's kind of quiet. He's going to lead, but he isn't doing these things. But he's. Look, his father may be the flashiest football player to ever play ever. Chains video and so he's been bred this way. No, I.

[E]

Listen, I got it. I just. I. It's like you said, you can't do it if you're a backup. And now he's hurt, gives other guys an opportunity. Maybe they, maybe they fall in their face. Like, I, I think he's more talent than Dylan Gabriel. I think most people think that, but Dylan Gabriel, personality wise, is a great backup. But did you draft a guy in the third round to be a backup? I don't know. We'll. We'll find out. Let me ask you about Matt Stafford. So Shammy Vay comes out and says he's going to do some throwing next week. He was supposed to do some throwing this week. It's, it's. What's the old Yogi Bear expression? It's getting late, early. If you're.

[F]

If.

[E]

Should the Rams be freaking out over Matt Stafford?

[F]

I'd be concerned if you haven't. Yeah, you're Matt Stafford. I met Matthew Stafford when he was going into his sophomore year at Georgia. So it's long ago. He was a great throw out of football then. He's still a great throw at the football now. One thing he's going to be able to do is throw the football with great accuracy and great velocity. He. It will concern me that he hasn't practiced in training camp. That, that, that is concerning. Especially when you say, okay, last Saturday he threw 60 passes. We'll see how he feels on Sunday, the next day. So if he felt good on Sunday, you at least would have practiced on Tuesday. And so to still not practice shows me he didn't feel good the next morning because if he felt good, he would have practiced. And so it has to be concerning. And like, they can spin it any way you want to spin it. If Matthew Stafford isn't practicing, something is bothering him. And so if I'm around concerning because the Rams are Super bowl contenders, but they aren't super bowl contenders. If Matthew Stafford isn't under center Caleb.

[E]

Williams, can he play?

[F]

Doug, I'll say this, and I've told people this. If Caleb Williams does not have success, this won't go to the coaching staff. We can't blame Matt. Uber flu s and the offensive coordinator Ben Johnson is proven. Ben Johnson resurrected Jared Goff. Ben Johnson had the number one offense in the league. Every year he was in Detroit, they were top three, four or five moving the ball up and like we know Ben Johnson can get it done. If they don't have this is all going to be on Caleb Williams. Can he play? I'm gonna say yes, but I don't know why you didn't play the first game. Like it's a new system. Very interesting, but I must say, yes, Caleb Williams can play. They have the weapons at the skill position. They reinforce that offensive line through free agency. But I am slightly concerned, I'll say.

[E]

That who share the best man, we gotta catch up in person. I appreciate you joining us. Thanks for being our guest in the Herd, Doug.

[F]

I appreciate you, man. Take care.

[E]

That's my guy. TJ Hushpinsada, former Pro bowl wide receiver. The wide receiver for Whisperer. Whisperer joining us in the Herd. Let's get to Greg Tuohy with the news.

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No, no, no. Turn on the news.

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This is the Herd line news.

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Hello, Duggar.

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Hello, Gregory.

[H]

By the way, do people call you Coach now or do they call you Doug?

[E]

Everybody calls me coach because everybody I.

[H]

Know who's a coach. I call him coach.

[E]

Yes. Everybody in Green Bay, it's all right.

[H]

Now I'm gonna start calling you coach.

[E]

It's the weirdest thing. Well, you got to do the Green Bay thing. You gotta go, hey, coach. Hey, coach. Hey, coach. Hey, pickers. Lean. Yeah, that's a little. That was a.

[H]

That's pretty close, though.

[E]

No, no, not too far. Have you been to Green Bay?

[H]

I have been to Green Bay.

[E]

Yeah.

[H]

I've been to a wisdom game. Football game.

[E]

Oh, you went to Wisconsin? They played many years ago.

[H]

We did a remote there.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah. Next year they play Notre Dame at Atlamo.

[H]

Yeah, it was great. Madison's awesome.

[E]

Madison, Green Bay.

[H]

I'm sorry. Yeah, Green Bay.

[E]

Yeah, but Madison is Wisconsin. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not Green Bay. Yes.

[H]

Dugger. We got a coach, Coach. We got a big series. I know we have a big series in LA this weekend. In baseball, the Dodgers and Padres facing off three game series at Chavez Ravine. But now it's the Dodgers looking up in the NL west as they trail the Padres by a game. Mid August. Dog days. Here was Dave Roberts this week on la falling out of first place after being swept by the Angels.

[F]

We're where we're at. We put ourselves in this spot. But no, I wouldn't have expected us to be in second place right now.

[H]

The Dodgers were being billed by many as being maybe the best team in baseball history.

[E]

Stop it.

[H]

There was a lot of that talk.

[E]

We do that all the time, Donald. Stay in the biking. There was. There was a lot of baseball history.

[H]

You know, when they lost their first game, people were like, oh, they're not going to go 162. Zero. How could they?

[E]

Who are these people who thought they were the best team ever? There are a lot randos on social media out there. Don't pay attention to randos. Social media.

[H]

All right, whatever. Injuries, inconsistency have killed them this year. But how worried are you about the Dodgers?

[E]

Not.

[H]

Are they still a lock to make the World Series in the nl.

[E]

I never thought they were a lock, but I mean, you still have to put them as a favorite, assuming they get healthy. There's a lot of people that didn't think they did enough at the trade deadline. And you look at what's happened to them before and since the trade deadline and there's some legitimacy to that. But if we, if we dial back to last year and the playoffs. Padres were up two games to one. Everybody thought they had them dead to rights. Talking a bunch of ish and the Dodgers bounce back and win the Series and then go on and win the World Series. So I. I do think that, what, they got six against the Padres out of the next nine and the Rockies in the middle. Yep, yep. Look, I would. If you. If you're anywhere below.500 in these next six against the Padres, and, oh, yeah, by the way, you need to at least win two out of three against the Rockies. So if you're a couple over.500 after this next week and a half, then I think you take a breath. If not, like, if it's an abject disaster and they got swept by the Angels, which part of it is. One of the good stories in baseball is that the Angels are not terrible. And I understand we don't cover sports where, like, hey, they're mediocre. But if you're an angel fan, like I am, you're like, they're mediocre. They're kind of awesome.

[H]

And they're getting closer, too.

[E]

You can see it. They're getting a lot closer. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, point is, I think you gotta feel like they gotta win at least five or six out of the next nine, and then you can take a breath. If you go like two and seven, you got problems.

[H]

You start sweating a little bit. All right, we'll wrap it up with this, Clint. Terry McLaurin continues to be a hold in a commander's camp as he waits for a new deal this week. Cliff's Kingsbury, their oc he's starting to voice his frustrations with how the offense is still a worker in progress as we move closer and closer to the regular season.

[F]

Yeah, I think that's a work in progress. There's no doubt. I don't think until we get some of these other pieces back, we're going to know exactly what we are. We've had some good opportunities to see other guys get work in these positions, but when you don't have your kind of projected top two outside receivers, you know, one of your projected or both your projected inside pieces at guard, it's not going to really give you the chance to gel or really build that relationship until you get everybody else on the grass. So that's something we have to get to over the next three weeks.

[H]

I mean, I think it seems more likely than not that Jaden Daniels is going to take some kind of a step back this year. A lot of people don't think so, but not having Terry McClaurin in camp isn't helping matters. Daniels made people forget how great CJ Stroud was his rookie year based on how good you know, Jaden was last year. But with every NFC team, NFC east team, game planning to slow him down, is it crazy to think that he won't be as good as he was last year?

[E]

No. I mean, again, there's, there's a, there's a chance there to, you know, a sophomore slump, if you will. First, we all know Terry McLaren is going to be there, right? Sure, yeah. He's going to get this done last minute. Keeps him out of, keeps him out of camp. But I wouldn't be concerned. Concerned. They start the year, Giants at home, a game that they should win. Right. Game they should win. Everybody's healthy. They should be better and further along than the Giants. And you know, Jane Daniels at this point in his career has a much greater trajectory than Russell Wilson at this point in his career. Then they come to take on the packers and that's a quick turnaround. It's a Thursday night game. Yep. Right now the packers will play the Lions and then they play the Commanders. So they go Giants at home, packers on the road, Raiders at home. If you start two and one, like you're good. So much of it's how you start and you start with momentum. Two home games against two very likely non playoff teams. You got to feel good about yourself. If you're the Commanders. Considering the year that you came off, is it possible? Yeah, I mean the reason that that division, what was how it was, was who they crossed over against and this year who they cross over against, it's going to be a little bit more difficult. They do have the Broncos, albeit at home. They do have the Dolphins, albeit at home. And it's in November, so you got to feel like cold weather that, that helps you out. You do have to go to the Chiefs, you have to go to the Chargers, gotta go to the Falcons, gotta go to the packers, gotta go to the Vikings. There's some tough games. I, I think what you're talking about is very honest, very real. Right. Remember, Commanders played a last place schedule and now they don't. So I do think there'll be some leveling of it if there, if he doesn't level off, then this guy's a superstar.

[H]

Yeah, he'll be amazing. Yep, that's the news.

[E]

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news and oh yeah, by the way, part of the whole why Jaden Daniels was successful initially was he had years and years of reps, Arizona State into Florida State where he had an unbelievable or excuse into lsu. Sorry, lsu. Where he won the Heisman Trophy. Right. That's a guy that played a lot of college football. Is it time to sound the alarm with the Rams in the Matt Stafford issue? We'll discuss next in the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

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Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as a people's princess. But now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and Find Out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all, from my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out. Listen to fut around and find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Doug, Ally Bin4 Colin, this the Herd, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. When's the proper time to freak out, right? And I'll tell you, it's because it's like, I have a lot of friends who are. Have their kids going off to college, right? Send their kids off to college and they're gonna be homesick. I remember when I went to Notre Dame, like, the first two weeks were like a dream, right? Like, there's no parents around, and when you first get there, it's like freshman orientation, you know, it's just meeting chicks and getting numbers, right? That's. That's all that's all it is. And you start, come. You start, like, all right, like, possible. It's not possible as you start recruiting. Whatever. It was unbelievable. Now, I had traveled a lot as a kid playing basketball, so the traveling. And my parents didn't, like, take me there and drop me off and. And set up my room and kiss me goodbye. They, like, put me on a plane. I flew to Chicago. My dad had a guy who played for him who's a big stock trader. He actually took me on the floor of the exchange in Chicago and then like two days later, drove me to South Bend. And that was. It was bye bye. And I had a bag and that was it. And then my parents came in. I don't know, a couple weekends in, took me to Best Buy, bought a couple things, and that was that. You know, got the room, fridge. I got a tv, VCR combo. But it was white and open. Open box, right? But that thing was money. That lasted post college anyway. Nowadays, you know, especially with young women, you take him to school and there's crying, and then they're rushing for sororities. And, like, if you don't get picked for the sorority you want, like, these women think, like, their life is going to end. It's like, okay, the point is, I put two in college last year. Two girls are twins, okay? And the adjustment for both was different. At what point do you freak out and go, like, well, maybe this is the wrong school for the kid, right? And when you're from Southern California, they all want to come home. Why? Because it's. It's the old, why is Southern California so expensive? You know what the answer is? Because it's worth it, right? It is. I love where I live. I love what I do. But I mean, again, if I was a rich person and I could live in Southern California and just chill and have the lives that high school kids have. Because that's what they think. They think. They go back in their high school life, right? Where they don't have a lot of. They just. That's not the reality anyway. When do you freak out? When is that moment? Is it week three? Is it week four? Hey, get through the first semester. Because the truth is that it's the start of your second year. If you go back to your sophomore year and you're like, yeah, this is still not my place. That's probably really the time. First year is really weird, murky for Matt Stafford. When's the moment that we freak out about the back? I don't think it's that big a thing that he couldn't after throwing. Like, that's what old men do, right? If you go out and play basketball and you haven't played basketball in a month, you're going to be sore the next couple of days. And so you don't keep playing basketball, keep getting more sore, that's when you get hurt. Feels like we're a week away from freaking out at Matt Stafford. No freak out yet. No freak out yet. Wait to hear what one college football coach said. Next in the herd.

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In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more incredible, that article was written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the man who invented Sherlock Holmes. How did he fall for that? Hoax is a new podcast from me, Dana Schwartz, the host of Noble Blood.

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