THE HERD - Hour 1 - Niners win ugly, Brock Purdy is not that guy, Browns are sticking with Shedeur Sanders, Lane Kiffin has always been this way

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: THE HERD - Hour 1 - Niners win ugly, Brock Purdy is not that guy, Browns are sticking with Shedeur Sanders, Lane Kiffin has always been this way
Air Date: November 25, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd (with Jason McIntyre)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into some of the NFL's most debated storylines from the week, with a focus on the San Francisco 49ers' ugly win and Brock Purdy's underwhelming performance, the Cleveland Browns’ decision to stick with rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, and Lane Kiffin’s reputation and future in college football. Colin and Jason also touch on the Philadelphia Eagles’ offensive struggles, the state of Lamar Jackson and the Ravens, and end with talk about coach job security and college football's biggest rivalry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

49ers’ Ugly Win & Brock Purdy Under Scrutiny

Timestamps: 03:03 – 13:55, 14:57 – 16:13, 30:00 – 30:59, 49:13 – 53:12

• Colin’s Take on Purdy:
  • Purdy struggled with turnovers and weak throws, especially on Monday Night Football. Colin argues Purdy lacks the elite traits needed for a franchise quarterback.
  • “You’re trying to convince me he’s elite. If you’d stop doing that, I’d stop talking about it.” (06:35)
• Comparison Stats:
  • Matt Stafford (last 20 starts): 43 TDs, 5 INTs.
  • Bryce Young has a 2:1 TD-INT ratio, despite poor roster.
  • Brock Purdy (last 20 starts): 30 TDs, 19 INTs.
• Monday Night Football Stats:
  • "On Monday Night Football... five touchdowns, 11 picks, 75 passer rating." (08:53)
• Concerns Over Purdy’s Arm:
  • Colin notes a lack of zip, alluding to a possible toe injury, though Purdy denied it: “Every one of his interceptions was behind the guy and they kind of hung in the air.” (03:50)
• First Down Interceptions:
  • “Since he entered the NFL, he leads the NFL in interceptions on first down... Easiest, most favorable down to pass on.” (08:13)
• Is Purdy Elite or Overpaid?:
  • “If you make $53 million, you can never ask that question [about benching].” (10:55)
• Kyle Shanahan’s Postgame Comments:
  • Paraphrases Shanahan: “He was seeing it right. They were all really good decisions. Just missed the throw.” (11:25)
• Jason McIntyre Adds:
  • "I think in an island game he was pressing a little bit." (15:39)

Shedeur Sanders as Browns’ Starter

Timestamps: 13:55 – 14:57

• Energy and Confidence:
  • Colin praises Sanders’ confidence, boldness, and positive effect on team energy:
    • "One guy plays it safe and one guy throws it down the field and takes swings. And pro football locker rooms are 55 alphas... Shador Sanders, I don't care about the stats."
    • RG3’s observation: The Browns played with “more energy, more purpose and more excitement than they have all season long because of his ability to make the extended play.”
• Comparison to Dylan Gabriel:
  • Gabriel plays safe (“last in the NFL in yards per attempt”) vs. Sanders' league-leading aggression.
• Locker Room Impact:
  • “I think he has the pulse of the team, the pulse of the city. He is self aware. He believes he is going to be successful.” (13:25)
• Colin’s Preference:
  • Finds Sanders “a little goofy,” preferring focused, intense QBs, but admits Sanders changes the team’s energy: “A little goofy for my taste but he does add something, as RG3 talked about...” (13:55)

Lane Kiffin and the Ole Miss Situation

Timestamps: 16:13 – 26:51

• Colin on Lane Kiffin’s Reputation:
  • Argues Kiffin’s job-hopping and focus on offense is misunderstood:
    • “Lane Kiffin’s reputation is offensive wizard. That’s it... Ole Miss wasn't naive.” (21:30)
• Nature of College Football:
  • “College football, folks, is bitcoin. It’s unregulated. It's the wild, wild west with a lack of corporate structure. Every man for himself.” (21:40)
• On Media's Criticism:
  • “This idea, well, it's going to ruin his reputation... Only time anyone's disappointed with Lane Kiffin is when they don't score 35 points.”
• Traits of Great Coaches:
  • “It's not warm and fuzzy. It's not loyal. It's aggressive, intense, and hyper competitive... Saban, Urban, Dabo, Harbaugh, Lane, Kirby Smart all have the same traits.” (23:17)
• Why Lane Kiffin’s Future Is Always Uncertain:
  • “When Lane wants to give you one [an answer], go ahead, fire him. See if you get somebody that good.” (25:38)

Philadelphia Eagles' Collapse and Offensive Concerns

Timestamps: 26:51 – 29:15

• Blown Lead Against Dallas:
  • Up 21-0, lose the game. Saquon Barkley: “Dallas wanted it more.” (26:51)
• Sirianni’s Response:
  • “...as you look at the tape… effort was really, really high in that game.” (27:12)
• Offensive Predictability:
  • Jason: “The play sequencing is just awful. It’s very predictable. Cowboys defense... stopped everything.” (27:45)
• Colin’s Big Picture View:
  • Defense is now the team's strength; they won’t win by running the ball in the postseason.
  • “They're not going to run the football in the playoffs... They've seen multiple halves with six, three and outs.” (28:07)

Ravens’ Offense and Lamar Jackson's Health

Timestamps: 29:18 – 30:59

• Offensive Struggles:
  • Lamar’s stats fading; career lows in rushing, high sack rate.
• Colin’s Diagnosis:
  • “No, he does not have the juice. He's not 100%.” (30:00)
  • “If you watch Lamar Jackson, he didn't get slow in the last two months. He's not at 100%... Even Tom Brady’s like, nobody's totally healthy late November.” (30:16)
• Comparison to Packers’ Earlier Funk:
  • “I feel like Baltimore's broken offensively and has to reboot.” (30:44)

Steelers and the “No Losing Seasons” Streak

Timestamps: 32:51 – 37:57

• Colin’s Critique:
  • “Is the hot seat heating up?... He hasn't won a playoff game in eight years.” (32:00)
  • Devalues the “no losing seasons” streak:
    • “60 NFL teams with winning records missed the playoffs... It doesn't guarantee anything.” (32:27)
    • Longest current NBA streak? Clippers, a punchline in their own city.
  • Advocates for the Steelers to “bottom out” and get a top QB rather than clinging to arbitrary streaks.

Michigan vs. Ohio State Rivalry Preview

Timestamps: 42:44 – 49:13

• Harbaugh’s Legacy and Talent Gap:
  • “Jim Harbaugh is one of the great coaches in the history of the sport... But make no mistake, Ohio State's the better football program than Michigan.” (42:44)
  • “Ohio State wins with everybody... Michigan is very head coach reliant.”
  • “Columbus is the most northern southern city in America. It’s just different.”
  • “That national championship, if you look at talent composite rankings, Michigan’s was 14th… That was a Harbaugh national championship.”
• Prediction:
  • “As long as Ohio State's wide receivers, one of their two superstars, are healthy, they're going to win the game...” (46:00)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Brock Purdy’s Standalone Game Nerves:
  • “On Monday Night Football... he puts pressure on himself. Not showing off, but he puts pressure on himself. He gets a little more reckless.” (51:03)
• On Lane Kiffin:
  • “Ole Miss don’t marry the rock star and find out he’s cheating on the road. That’s the reality of this sport.” (22:48)
• On Shedeur Sanders:
  • “If you’re Cleveland, you’re not going to get rich in life investing in 401ks; you can get comfortable... Dylan Gabriel’s not even a 401k, he's that savings bond grandma gave you when you were nine. Like there's just no upside.” (13:08)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamps | |-----------------------------------------------|----------------| | Brock Purdy/Niners criticism | 03:03–13:55, 49:13–53:12 | | Shedeur Sanders/Browns | 13:55–14:57 | | Lane Kiffin/College football chaos | 16:13–26:51 | | Eagles collapse / Coaching scrutiny | 26:51–29:15 | | Ravens' offense and Lamar Jackson's health | 29:18–30:59 | | Steelers' “no losing seasons” streak | 32:51–37:57 | | Michigan/Ohio State Rivalry | 42:44–49:13 |

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Tone & Style

Colin Cowherd’s tone throughout is opinionated, conversational, and energetic, blending stats, anecdotes, and direct audience challenges (“Ask yourself this after the game...”). He oscillates between witty analogies (“College football is bitcoin with a whistle”) and big-picture sports culture critiques.

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Summary Takeaways

• Brock Purdy, despite moments of promise, is not showing the elite traits required for long-term franchise QB status, particularly struggling under the brighter lights and pressure.
• The Browns’ commitment to Shedeur Sanders reflects a shift toward valuing risk-taking and attitude over "safe" quarterback play.
• In college football, Lane Kiffin is who Ole Miss signed up for—dynamic, opportunistic, and always on the lookout for the next big challenge.
• Teams clinging to “no losing season” streaks may be shortsighted; sometimes bottoming out is necessary for long-term competitiveness.
• The Michigan-Ohio State rivalry continues to expose the dependence of certain Blue Bloods on coaching genius versus sheer program machine.

This episode provides a candid, numbers-backed, and highly entertaining take on the current state of NFL quarterbacks, coaching politics, and the ever-shifting landscape of college football powerhouses.

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The Herd hierarchy. What are we going to do with those Chicago Bears? Will they make their first appearance in the Herd hierarchy? Great to have you in today. You know, it was so fun because Brock Purdy was obviously awful last night and in the first half I thought, well, he had a toe injury. And I thought, all right. I said it on my podcast at the Volume last night. I said, he's obviously can't drive the ball. Every one of his interceptions was behind the guy and they kind of hung in the air. There was no zip on the ball and Purdy came out after the game and said it had nothing to do with my toe. Oh, so you were just awful against Carolina that has no pass rush. Listen, we watched Matt Stafford on Sunday Night Football. That's a Hall of Famer, mastery of the position, big arm, pre snap looks left, fires right. Last night you saw two average quarterbacks. One's making a fortune and one wants to make a fortune. Five picks total, multiple bad throws to open receivers. And remember the NFL is not baseball where we care about history. It's not the NBA where style matters. The NFL, when you're a quarterback, it's about your last 20 starts. It's about now last 20 starts. Matt Stafford, Brock Purdy and Bryce Young. Matt Stafford's 43 and five. That is an elite franchise quarterback. 43 touchdowns, five picks. Bryce Young at least has a two to one touchdown to interception ratio with a bunch of kids at wide receiver. Brock Purdy, 30 touchdowns, 19 picks. And by the way, on Monday Night Football he presses because he wants to show everybody in a standalone game, hey, I belong Monday Night Football. In his career, five touchdowns, 11 picks, 75 passer rating. So I said in, I said in August, Rams are going to win the division. Best roster, Seattle's close. San Francisco third. In fact, the only two things with the Niners this year that have blown me away. Robert Sala deserves a head coaching job. What he is doing without Warner, without Bosa, without Hufongo, is now with Denver. I don't know they're doing it. It's just kids and I mean he, Bryce Young was great a week ago. He was atrocious last night, so. And Christian McCaffrey is. I mean honestly, he should get paid overtime. I mean he is the offense. But everybody keeps trying to convince Colin you're tough on Brock Purdy. No, no, no. You're trying to convince me he's elite. If you'd stop doing that, I'd stop talking about it. Well, he's smart. So is Aristotle. I need elite quarterback traits. Arm size, mobility. Like Bryce Young. It's not a franchise quarterback, he's a bridge quarterback. He's not a backup, he's a bridge. But nobody's trying to convince me he's an all timer, so. So you guys keep trying to convince me. This is what, this is what it looks like when he had a stacked roster and people didn't have a lot of film on him. He was at Iowa State and he was, he was healthy. It was kind of fun. And he moves pretty well. Said it last week after the Arizona game. He moves pretty well. But do you know, since he entered the NFL, he leads the NFL in interceptions on first down. Leads the NFL. That is the easiest, most favorable down to pass on. So last night, his three picks, they were all behind the receivers. None of them had any velocity behind him. So he may say the toe is fine. It's not. You can tell he's not at 100%. But on, on throws down the field last night he was 1 for 8 with three picks. But this year on throws just 10 yards down the field, he's the NFL's worst quarterback. One touchdown, seven picks. So? Well, Colin, once you make 53 million a year, that's more than Mahomes and it's more than Matt Stafford. If you made 12 million a year or you had Bryce Young's contract, I wouldn't care. Or if you weren't trying to convince me. My eyes don't lie. Yours don't either. Those three picks, those are not $53 million a year throws. In fact, ask yourself this after the game. Listen to what the reporters ask Kyle Shanahan. Listen to this. I mean, you got to think about all of it and why it's happening. You know, it makes me a lot more hesitant if they're all bad decisions and stuff, but he was seeing it right. They were all really good decisions. Just missed the throw on him. So, you know, I think it is a lot worse when you feel like he's not making the right decisions. Yeah, he was asked to that answer. He was asked if he considered benching Brock Purdy. Has anybody ever asked if Joe Burrow, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar, Justin Herbert should be benched? Again, if you make 53 million, you can never ask that question. I think you should maybe consider Mac Jones. What you're paying him 53 million. I'm not anti Brock Purdy. He's fine. But he's really inconsistent. Not good throwing downfield. That's all I'm saying. If you stop trying to convince me he's in that upper crust, then I'll stop talking about it. Okay, so I don't think Shador Sanders is up for crust, but I want to talk about this. He's going to be the starter for the Cleveland Browns, I would imagine the rest of the way. I think we've seen enough. Dylan Gabriel. So over the course of my life, and you've probably noticed this too, there are certain people that walk into a room and they take the oxygen out of it. They're negative, they're risk averse, they're rigid. They like just suck all the energy and oxygen and vibe out of the room. And then there are people that come into a room and they're optimistic, optimistic. And they've got a little juice and they've got a lot of confidence and they want to take a big swing in life. That Shador Sanders, I don't care about the stats. Watching him and then watching Dylan Gabriel. One guy plays it safe and one guy throws it down. The field and takes swings. And pro football locker rooms are 55 alphas. It's guys who take swings. It's aggressive men. And Robert Griffin III RG3 on the show yesterday said he noticed that when you watch the game, the Browns played with more energy, more purpose and more excitement than they have all season long because of his ability to make the extended play. And with that comes mistakes. He threw a bad interception, but he bounced back really well off of it. I think he has the pulse of the team, the pulse of the city. He is self aware that he believes he is going to be successful. So he speaks confidently, he walks around confidently and that is why he's not afraid. Yeah, I mean when I watched him against the Raiders and it's the Raiders, but it's an NFL team, it looked like Colorado. Chador throws the ball down the field and he's accurate. Dylan Gabriel plays it safe, right? And bosses love employees who play it safe and never get the boss in trouble. He runs all the plays Shador doesn't. He plays with more confidence. He takes more risks. Dylan Gabriel, do you realize this, led the NFL? He was last in the NFL in yards per attempt this year. Dylan Gabriel, Shador Sanders led the entire league this Sunday in yards per attempt. They're the opposite. They're literally the opposite kind of quarterback. So in my take, if you're Cleveland is you're not going to get rich in life investing in 401ks, you can get comfortable or content. Dylan Gabriel's not even a 401k. He's that savings bond grandma gave you when you were nine. Like there's just no upside. It's safe. He's not taking any risks. But I think in pro football locker rooms that kind of pulls the energy and the juice out of the room. You got 55 NFL bodies. I mean, Miles Garrett's reaction to Shador Sanders is, oh, this is fun. We got a guy. So now I think Shador is a little goofy. I like my quarterbacks to be serious and intense. I really like Peyton Manning. I, I, I really like the intensity of Lamar Jackson who gets mad at himself. I like serious, intense, totally focused quarterbacks. And Shador is a little goofy. He's a little casual. I, you know, I think sometimes he's a little juvenile. He feels like a kid. But I don't think you can deny that there's a different feeling when he's the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. It just looks and feels differently. And that's why I should start little goofy for my taste but he does add something, as RG3 talked about. And by the way, I have no problem with joyful, funny professional athletes. Somebody told me this years ago, if you're in a serious profession, like accounting or tech, have a sense of humor, lighten up. And if you're in a funny or a. Or an entertainment field, music, sports, comedy, take it seriously. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld take comedy seriously. So did Letterman and Leno. They take comedy seriously. It's a real career. Ricky Gervais. It's a real career. I like my quarterbacks in entertainment. My musicians, my singers. You know, it's Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, Bono. They take it seriously. Jon Bon Jovi, still touring, making money. Take it seriously. When you get into sports, I like, really focused because there's goofballs everywhere in entertainment, music and the movies and comedy. There's goofballs everywhere in those kind of careers. I think you got to be a little bit more serious to me. Chadoor's a little goofy for me, but he's a joyful kid, and I think he should start. All right, J. Mac, listen, I know it's a. It's a rough day. You love Brock Purdy. But I. I think America, after the first half, we all summarily agreed that was awful. Football, not just quarterback play. Know what I couldn't figure out? This Rico Dowdle is one of these NFL running backs. You're like, can you just give him the ball? Why didn't Dave Canales get Rico Dowdle? Six attempts? He's your Christian McAffrey. I mean, say what you want about Kyle Shanahan. The entire offense drives through Christian McAffrey. You have your Christian McAffrey. Is he as good? I don't know. But Rico Dowdle is a really, really fun player. He got the ball six times out of the backfield. Like, what are you doing?

[Jason McIntyre]

It was a wacky game, was it not? It just fell all around like the Purdy interceptions. And listen, I'm going to. I'm going to pull a. You last week, you know, remember, Sam Darnold threw four picks against the Rams, and you're like, I don't really care about interceptions. You're trying things. Brock Purdy was trying things last night.

[Colin Cowherd]

None of them worked.

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Okay?

[Jason McIntyre]

He had a bad half. It was bad. You flush it. You move on. I am worried, however, about this Browns game because, oh, defense at home is nasty.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, let me just tell you right now, I have revised what I said yesterday. Cleveland plus six and a half points at home with cruddy weather is the bed of the weekend against the Niners on a short week. Yeah, the weekend.

[Jason McIntyre]

Remember a couple years ago he went to Cleveland and had a loss. They were missing a couple weapons.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

But this is going to be a difficult game for him. And I'll be honest, if you ask me. J back what the hell was wrong with Purdy? I think in an island game he was pressing a little bit.

[Colin Cowherd]

Absolutely.

[Jason McIntyre]

Knowing that Mac Jones had a good run and he's coming off the injury and it was in his head, you know, like it happens.

[Colin Cowherd]

Listen, Brock Purdy has been bad on Monday Night Football. Five touchdowns, 11 picks. I think it's a showcase. He feels a little bit of pressure. He wants to show he belongs when in the one o' clock window or when he's playing Arizona. He's magic. But I think he was pressing totally last night.

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I got some thoughts on Lane Kiffin. You know, it just cracks me up how everybody's after Lane Kiffin. It just. I just don't get it. And I got thoughts on Michigan, Ohio State and Michigan fans aren't going to like it. We got herd hierarchy. Nick Wright Good show today. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

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Savor responsibly. So I watching this Lane Kiffin circus just cracks me up. I mean, Ole Miss knew what they were getting when they were hiring Lane Kiffin, who will make a decision Friday or Saturday where he's going to coach. They knew what they were getting. When I hear this, even from people at Fox, well, it's going to ruin his reputation. Lane Kiffin's reputation is offensive wizard. That's it. That's why USC hired him. The Raiders hired him, Tennessee hired him, a school in Florida hired him. And Ole Miss hired him and hired him because he was relatable. He's a nice guy. He was loyal. I know Lane. I like him. I've had a cocktail or two when he used to do that. He's interesting. He knows his stuff. And Ole Miss wasn't naive. College football, folks, is bitcoin. It's unregulated. It's the wild, wild west with a lack of corporate structure. Every man for himself. And college football allows you to steal another program's coach. Don't be mad at Lane. Be mad at LSU in Florida. I mean, you guys are supposed to all kind of be in a conference. You've defended each other for years when you were all cheating and recruiting pre Nils. There was always a rule. Don't Rat on the sec, Right? Like, everybody kind of knew until Hugh Freeze was so ridiculous at Ole Miss doing it, they had to call him on it. So. But this idea. Well, this is, you know, the only time anybody's disappointed with Lane Kiffin. When Ole miss doesn't score 35 points. That's when he's disappointing. Because since he arrived at Ole Miss, they're the number one offense in the country by a mile. And that's why he gets jobs. This idea, listen, Ole Miss don't marry the rock star and find out he's cheating on the road. That's the reality of this sport. Whenever I hear the media get precious about college football, it is bitcoin with a whistle. It's totally wild, Wild West. They can't even get the schedules right. And I love the sport. USC hired a guy named Clay Helton. Wonderful guy. Family, faith, and football. You know where he's at? Georgia Southern. There are certain traits the great coaches have. Saban, Urban, Dabo, Harbaugh, Lane, Kirby Smart. They all have the same traits. It's not warm and fuzzy. It's not loyal. It's aggressive, intense, and hyper competitive. And I've met all of them, and I like all of them. I love Urban and Lane and Jim and Davo and Sable. I met all of them. Haven't met Kirby Smart, but he kind of feels like it's the same thing. So this idea, you know, everybody's like. And the media cracks me up. It's like, well, when are we going to get an answer? When Lane wants to give you one, go ahead, fire him. See if he gets somebody that good. Well, you know him. You're defending him. No, I know college football, and I'm defending him. In the NFL, you can't go poach Andy Reid in the middle of a season. College football allows it. I said this yesterday. Wall Street, Silicon Valley or sports. If you allow aggressive men in the prime of their career to just jump from that job to that job, they're gonna. They're gonna. That's. That's their nature. That's who they are. Lane is an aggressive, dynamic wizard offensively looking for the next great challenge and wanting to be able to compete annually for national titles. Here was yesterday. I mean, the old media is freaking out, and Lane is just kind of rolling his eyes. Lane, Keith released a statement on Friday saying that you, him and Chancellor Boyce had had a meeting about your future. Are you able to elaborate on the nature of that meeting at all?

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[Colin Cowherd]

When you think about how the last two weeks has kind of played out, is there anything, if you could, you would change?

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[Colin Cowherd]

Distraction and how could the team focus when Key says expects a decision on Saturday? Is that a decision that's been made or is that still in consideration? Like we would. They were just curious about that.

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[Colin Cowherd]

So, I mean, you can just keep going.

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[Colin Cowherd]

He's going to have to wait. Sorry, beat reporters. You're just going to have to wait on that. But Ole Miss couldn't possibly be naive. When they hired Lane Kiffin, they knew they were getting an A recruiter and an A offensive guy who has a history of like a lot of coaches in college football in their prime wanting to land at a job where you can compete for a national title every single year that often recruits itself. Georgia, lsu, Ohio State, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma has a handful of those. Ole Miss is not one of those good program, fun program. It's not one of those. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.

[Jason McIntyre]

Let's get started with this Philadelphia Eagles debacle. Up 21 nothing. Colin against the Cowboys and they choke it away and lose. Saquon Barkley said after the game he felt that Dallas, quote, wanted it more. Okay, let that sink in and then listen to Nick Sirianni who vehemently disagreed with him.

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Obviously they went and they got the win. So there's always things that factor into it, as far as, you know, our determination, our effort. I saw that it was, you know, it was high. And I think, like I said, we were. Obviously Saquon felt something last night and you know, he's got a great pulse for everything. But, you know, if you, as you watch the tape, you know, as you look at the tape, which, you know, obviously after the game, we don't have the luxury of looking at the tape before we, we go in and talk to you guys. But I felt like the effort was really, really high in that game.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, offensively, I still, I don't understand how the offensive coordinator isn't falling under more scrutiny. Colin, a lot of people are cutting up clips from these three and outs and the play sequencing is just awful. It's very predictable. And the Cowboys defense, which got run early in this game, was able to stop everything.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't know what the concern level is for you with the Eagles, but.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I. It's a really good roster and they tend to figure things out. But we're just going to have to acknowledge Saquon's not going to be great this year and the defense is better than the offense. Now. I still think they're going to win multiple playoff games and it's one game, but it that we've seen multiple halves where they're literally six, three and outs or five, three and out. So it's a reality of what they are. Defense is going to win playoff games for this team. I mean, a couple downfield throws. Jalen is very good downfield ball, like Russell Wilson, Devonte, A.J. brown. But they're not going to run the football in the playoffs. They haven't run it all year. They're not going to. So they can't rely on it.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. You wonder.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

14 point blown lead against the Broncos in the fourth. 14 point blown lead. If that doesn't happen, if the offense can do anything, we're looking at by far the best team in the NFL, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes, absolutely.

[Jason McIntyre]

And yet we're all panicking about them. I don't. Very strange times, by the way. Bears. Your Bears getting seven now. I know you're a big Black Friday guy, battling people at malls trying to pick up stuff.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. You're gonna.

[Jason McIntyre]

You're not gonna miss Bears Eagles, right?

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[Colin Cowherd]

No, I'm not. All right, let's move on to the.

[Jason McIntyre]

Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson. So I don't want to say they got exposed a little against the jets, but the jets had traded Sauce Gardner, Conan Williams and really bottled up this offense. And a lot of the focus now is coming on Lamar Jackson. He's averaging career lows in rushing attempts, yards and touchdowns. Obviously had the injury. He's been sacked on 11% of his drop backs, by far the highest of his career. You don't want to say he's getting old because this guy's still in his mid-20s. But, you know, is he not healthy at this point? Like, what do we know? And again, if I'm in that media scrum with Harbaugh today, I'm like, you know, it's Lamar 100%. Because it doesn't appear to anybody that he's.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, he does not have the juice. He's not 100%. I'll say it again. Brock Purdy wouldn't come out and make an excuse. Brock Purdy is not at 100%. His ball last night. All of his picks were behind the receiver. Why? He didn't have any velocity. Okay. I mean, so brock Purdy's at 100%. If you watch Lamar Jackson, he didn't get slow in the last two months. He's not at 100%. I've talked to players in the NFL about this. Even Tom Brady's like, nobody's totally healthy. Late November, everybody's dinged up. It doesn't matter if you're doing Pilates, yoga. Everybody's dinged up. It's cold. It hurts more when you get hit. I watched Cincinnati. I watched Baltimore this past weekend. That offense for Baltimore is. You think Philadelphia is out of rhythm? They are just making it up. There's no. Sequence it to me, when I watch them, they're broken like the packers were a few weeks ago. I feel like Baltimore's broken offensively and has to reboot.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, it does not look good. And Kyle Hamilton, did you see he went down against the Jets? He is like a huge chess piece for them. Listen, I don't like anything about the Bengals. The defense is a joke. The coach is not good at all. I'm considering taking the seven points here against the Ravens in the divisional matchup. Yeah, no, T. Higgins, by the way, he's been ruled out with a concussion. Final story. Colin. This is an ugly one. College football. So Brian Kelly is really getting in a legal back and forth with LSU over his firing. Colin, this is ugly. I mean, this is going to get expensive.

[Colin Cowherd]

This.

[Jason McIntyre]

Hopefully we get this sorted out quickly, but essentially, Kelly and his lawyers are alleging that LSU is holding him back from getting another head coaching job. LSU is saying, hey, man, we don't owe you 54 million because we fired you with cause. And they're like, what's the cause? And LSU has nothing. They have shown nothing. And they're like, well, we didn't actually fire you. It was a dismissal. And it's like, Colin, again, I know you think this looks.

[Colin Cowherd]

It looks shady. LSU looks really shady to me.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, if you're Lane Kiffin and Jimmy Sexton. I know he watches the show. Are you advising Lane? You want to go into that?

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I don't. I mean, listen, again, I would stay at Ole Miss or go pro, go to the Tennessee Titans. That's what I would do if I was Lane. I would. I think Florida is a better job than LSU for me. Lifestyle, quality of life. Gainesville, not that far, you know, from the Atlantic Ocean. I think Florida is a great job. Top five or six job in the country. But my guess is lsu, more desperate, will pay more money.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, you've talked about this all the time with jobs, management matters. Oh, and like I know lsu, oh my gosh, they won national championships. Ed Augeron, Joe Burrow look at currently right now, what's going on there? And you really want to go into that?

[Colin Cowherd]

I wouldn't.

[Jason McIntyre]

You feel you could trust those guys?

[Colin Cowherd]

No, no, no. That's the answer. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. So I saw this a headline this morning. I'm going to throw something at you that I think it's an arbitrary number, that everybody in sports sees it as a number having value. And I see it as an arbitrary number that doesn't really mean anything. So Mike Tomlin and the Steelers have not had a losing season in 21 seasons. But there's a story this morning. Is the hot seat heating up? Well, he hasn't won a playoff game in eight years. He would be fired if he was the Eagles coach or the Cowboys coach. He would be fired if he was. I mean, the New England coach, the San Francisco coach, the Green Bay coach. Green Bay, you got to win playoff games. He'd be fired if he was the Ravens coach. But in Pittsburgh, it's old school and they take pride in stuff like we have not had a losing season in 21 years. I want you to think about that. I went and looked this up this morning in that same stretch, 21 seasons to show you how little that means we haven't had a losing season. In that same stretch, 21 seasons, 60 NFL teams with winning records missed the playoffs. Winning record doesn't mean anything. It doesn't guarantee anything. In 21 seasons, four times they were 500. Another four, they were a game over. What does it mean? It's just an arbitrary number. So let me give you five, four or five teams that in 21 seasons have had losing seasons. The Chiefs, Philadelphia, Ramsay, Tampa Bay, the Patriots. They bought them out. They have losing seasons. So you know this whole thing about Mike Tomlin not having a losing season. Let me throw this at you. You know who has the longest streak in the NBA of not having a losing season? I want you to think about this. Give it, give it 10 seconds. What NBA franchise has the longest streak of non losing seasons? The Clippers. 14 in their own city. The Lakers make fun of the Clippers. Jeannie Buss, the former owner, used to make fun of the Clippers privately and publicly. They were laughing stock. Didn't matter if Steve Ballmer had 10 times the net worth. The Clippers are like the eye roll of Los Angeles and they got good people in the building. And Tyler's, you're the Clippers. I mean, you got a bunch of banners, but it's just, to me, it's just, I mean, Pittsburgh is, it's a small city, you know, I get it. It's old school, you know, I mean, you go to a party in Pittsburgh, you talk about, it's like St. Louis, where'd you go to high school? That's like not a conversation. In New York, Chicago, Philly, Boston, San Francisco, Louisiana, St. Louis and Pittsburgh. Hey, where'd you go to high school? I don't know. I'm 44. Who cares? But that, you know, I get it. But this whole arbitrary number, I would rather have the Steelers bottom out this year and if Dante Moore is available, go grab him. I mean that to me, go get a legitimate franchise quarterback for 15 years, 12 of it in his prime. So. But I. This whole Tomlin thing, Belichick and Andy Reid got let go. It's nothing against Mike, but this arbitrary 21 years without a losing record, it means Nothing. Winning record. 60 teams in 21 years have had a winning record or we're not sub 500 did not have a losing season and they make the playoffs. I don't know what everybody's getting worked up about in Pittsburgh, but yeah, I mean, I've been saying this for four years. They're tone deaf offense, they don't take quarterback seriously. All right, Herd hierarchy, top of the hour. I saw this. So Michigan, Ohio State is Saturday and I, I strongly believe that Ohio State, as long as at least one of their two star receivers, at least one plays, like Carnell Tate, Jeremiah Smith. If both play, they're going to win easily. If one plays, they're going to win. If neither plays, it kind of changes the calculus. Like, like you don't have to play defense the same way. And I do think Michigan, between the quarterback Underwood, who is a baller, and Marsh, one of the better receiving talents they've had in a decade. Those guys are playmakers and they're playing at home. But let's just be honest about Ohio State and Michigan, the football programs and the history here. I'll try to be as honest as I can. Next, be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

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[Jason McIntyre]

FOX College football Friday is under the lights in prime time. This week we got the duel in the desert as Noah Fafida leads Arizona against Arizona state. Friday night, 9:00pm Eastern, 6:00pm Pacific on Fox.

[Colin Cowherd]

Underrated rivalry. So Michigan hosts Ohio State this weekend. And I've said I like Ohio State comfortable. So I'm a huge Jim Harbaugh fan. I think he's there's an argument he's if you count college and pro, the NBA Basketball hall of Fame counts. College counts, pro counts everything. You know, our Pro Football hall of Fame, it's just pros. If you had a hall of fame in football, like basketball, there's an argument. Jim Harbaugh is one of the great coaches in the history of the sport. For nine years I defended him against what I consider to be short sighted critics and reactive critics. I think he's a great football coach. But make no mistake, Ohio State's the better football program than Michigan. Michigan's the superior university. The law school's better. The business school's better. The medical school. Michigan is a top three public university in America. Try to get my daughter to go there. Dad, it's too cold. Okay, whatever. Good school. But you say Buckeyes, you think college football, they have an SEC commitment and SEC tribal passion, an obsessed nature to them that Michigan doesn't quite have. And they're proud of it, like SEC schools. So on Saturdays, Columbus is the most northern southern city in America. It's just different. So. And I always said this Harbaugh is the reason they won the Natty. If you go look at all those Michigan stars that dominated Ohio State the last couple years, none of them have hit in the NFL. Blake Corum, invisible JJ McCarthy, Mason Graham, Roman Wilson, Kenneth Grant. Yeah, go look around the league at Ohio State, guys. They're the top of every roster they're on. So in fact, that national championship in Michigan, if you go and look at what they call talent composite rankings, Michigan's was 14th, the lowest since the College Football Playoff has existed for a national champion. That was a hardball national championship. They won games without throwing a pass in halves. So Ohio State football is a machine. Michigan is very head coach reliant. Ohio State take away interim coaches. Ohio State wins with everybody. And don't forget, from 2001 to 2019, Ohio State was 17 and 2. Okay, go look at Urban Myers, you know, record in the matchup. So as long as Ohio State's wide receivers, one of their two superstars, are healthy, they're going to win the game. But I said this before, college football is very much a coach's sport. The NFL is a quarterback sport. And I don't think you can replace Jim Harbaugh, who, who you know. And people say, well, it took him a while. Again, Michigan is Notre Dame. Not everybody can get in. It is rigorous academically. Michigan graduates. I know they love football, but business first. Ohio State people. I know it's football first. It's not a criticism, it's a reality. So, you know, on the show from time to time, we'll talk odds. So people ask me a lot. I ran into somebody yesterday in Chicago, what do you think about the Bears? And I said, you know, I don't know, but I know Vegas doesn't like him. So the Bears are in first place eight and three. And they are a seven point dog to a team that can't run the football and very frequently can't score. Philadelphia. Now think about that cruddy Carolina against the defense in San Francisco with no pass rush. Cruddy Carolina was a seven point dog last night. Last week three and seven. Cincinnati three and seven at the time without Joe Burrow or Jamar Chase was a seven and a half point dog to number one seed New England. So Vegas is telling you you're basically Cincinnati with no Joe Burrow against the Patriots. You're cruddy Carolina against Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala. So Vegas does not buy the Chicago Bears, who it should be noted are the second best rushing team in the NFL. What is rushing do? Helps you on the road. The number one rushing team in the league is Seattle. I think Seattle's won 10 of their last 11 road games. Why is Seattle so good on the road? Because Seattle runs it and plays defense. That's what wins on the road. Vertical passing games. Miami Dolphins, when they had Waddle and Tyree killed, does not win on the road late in the season. So Chicago to me is actually, if they had a better defense, the run game should help them on the road, take the crowd out of it. Long drives. But it's kind of remarkable to me that Chicago has this great record and Vegas looks at them and goes, yeah, you're kind of Carolina going to face the Niners. You're kind of Cincinnati host in New England. Seven point spread in the NFL is a fat number. Here's Ben Johnson this week on this group of guys and the closeness they have, I think we got the right type of guys and that's, you know, Ryan's really done a great job with constructing the roster that way, but the veteran leadership is outstanding. Kevin Byard, Joe Tuney, Grady, probably have 10 or 12 guys that I really lean into on a weekly basis just to get a pulse of the team. And they do a really good job of keeping the main thing. The main thing and the. The locker room. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can go six and one in close games. Kansas City last year was great. In close games, you got to have a good locker room. It's not just the coach and the quarterback. You got to have a good. Got to have a good room. You know, I mean, when you get, when you get in close games and you trail late and you watch Kansas City against the Colts, this weekend. I think Chicago's got a really good locker room and I also think their secondary is a little bit better than people think. They take the ball away. They got their dbs cats like wide receivers. But I will tell you, Matt Hasselbeck has yet to buy in and his opinion is one. I hear a lot privately around the NFL on Caleb Williams, I guess where I'm not like putting him in the hall of Fame and fitting him for a gold jacket like you want to do.

[Jason McIntyre]

I just don't think this Bears team.

[Colin Cowherd]

Has played anybody quite yet. Now we will get to know who this Bears team is because the, you know, five of the next six games or whatever are against teams that are way better than the teams that they beat. They haven't beat great teams. I think this has. Ben Johnson is proven he is a great coach and he is the guy. If someone can take him to that next level, I think Ben Johnson would be the guy. I want to go back. And again, I think Philadelphia, awful loss. Nothing pulls a locker room together like blowing a three touchdown lead in the game and losing to arrival. So it's going to be an angry, intense week of practice in Philadelphia. And the last time we saw the Bears really go east of Baltimore, they lost to Tyler Huntley. So I think the Bears are a good team. Are they a herd hierarchy team? We'll see. They're not a great team and they have beaten bad teams in close games. That's okay. Winning is winning. Denver's winning a lot of close games, some over bad teams. Winning is winning. So I want to go back to something I said at the top of the show is I really think Brock Purdy's fine. But if you make more than Mahomes and Stafford, I'm going to hold you to a different level. Cam Ward is not winning games. I thought he played great this weekend. Nobody's trying to convince me Cam Ward is great, Bryce Young is mid. But nobody's trying to convince me he's not. J. Mac isn't the only person that keeps telling me and this guy is special. And I do think there's something to be said. He's not been good necessarily. I think he puts pressure on himself. And I'll give you an example. In the early Sunday window, Brock Purdy is Tom Brady. Now, obviously in the early Sunday window, you play a lot of Carolinas, you play a lot of Atlanta's, you play a lot of Arizona, you know, you play average teams. In the early window, by and large, the NFL puts the better teams late Fox window Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday, they want some marquee quarterbacks. In the early Sunday window. In his career, Brock Purdy has 11 touchdowns, two picks, and a 110 passer rating. He is elite. Those are elite numbers on Monday Night Football when the league's watching. And I think he wants to put on a little bit of a show. He puts pressure on himself. Not showing off, but he puts pressure on himself. He gets a little more reckless. Five touchdowns, 11 picks, 75 passer rating. And generally you play better teams. Last night was an exception. Carolina is not in standalone games very much. Even in Charlotte. Okay. They just, just. They're just not so. You know, again, I think he's got a bad toe and he's just not gonna. He does. He's just not the kind of kid. He's a good kid, good family. He's not gonna go out and say, make excuses and play a victim. He's not gonna do that. I, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious if you watched him last night, he's not getting velocity in his ball. And he doesn't have a bad arm. He didn't have a great arm, but his arm is good enough. And he's a very aggressive player, which I like. That's the thing I like about him. He's a smart kid. He's a good kid and he's aggressive like, he'll throw the ball down the field. He'll throw picks. But if you watch the interceptions last night, that is not Brock Purdy, though. Those interceptions were. The ball hung. It was behind. It was the same interception three times. It was literally the same interception three times. And it was a velocity issue. Wasn't necessarily accuracy. It was just a velocity in you. The ball hung. So I think he's too good of a kid to say my toes terrible. He's not going to do that. But you can't tell me it's like Lamar Jackson's the same way. Lamar is never going to play a victim. Lamar's never going to say I'm not healthy. It's just not who Lamar is. He's too competitive. And Brock's super competitive. Lamar Jackson, watch him. He is not 100%. Brock Purdy is not 100%. But he wants to play. Kyle wants him to play. And if your substitutes playing his arse off, you want to get out there and take the job back. Herd hierarchy, Nick. Right next.

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[Jay Shetty]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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