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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 1 - Packers Look Dominant, Caleb Williams' Timeline, Trouble In Miami?
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We had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill cuz she gonna keep it a century in America. What sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the Hood Politics with Prop podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Here we go. It is a fry day and we are loaded, Blazing five off a winning week one. The Green Bay packers once again, little sloppy, but put on a show last night. J. Mac I had them number one in the herd hierarchy. I said it was the best team I saw in week one and they have now totally shut down last season's number one and number two most efficient offenses. So, I mean, they. It jumps off a tv, does it not? Yeah, this team is good. Essentially. The first two games they did, they gave up nothing. The first three quarters, nothing. The defense is that good. Micah Parsons is unfreaking believable. Yeah. And he's only playing 68% of the snap, so that'll go up to 78 and 88. So I. This I am absolutely sure of as I start my show on a Friday. Green Bay is the fastest team in the NFL. Their tight ends run, their defensive ends run well. They're wide receivers, their quarterback can run and the spacing and speed is on display. Last night was the youngest team in the league against the oldest and it looked like it. I have not seen a defense in Green Bay this aggressive. And there is not another wide receiver, tight end group in the NFL that has this much speed and this much talent and they're not paying any of it. Terry McLaurin of Washington alone alone makes 10 million more than the entire wide receiver and tight end group for the Packers. And this is also the power of patience that Green Bay is allowed to have. They can draft Jordan Love and sit him for three years because they don't have an owner, an impulsive guy at the top pulling strings. They don't have a harsh and relentless local media and they have loyal fans and reasonable fans. So when they dip their toe in free agency like Micah, they. It's worth it. The other thing I thought last night is, you know, people freak out. Green Bay gave up two first round picks. You tell me, what do they need? They got the quarterback, they got their skill. I mean, they've got their tackles, they've got their pass rusher, I got their linebackers. That's when you can give up first round picks. What do they need? I mean, it's. And for the record, Matthew golden, the kid out of Texas again, it's going to take him until week 6, 7, 8, 9. He's going to be another track star. And here's the thing. Not only did they blow out Detroit, and I mean, I came last Night. I couldn't believe it was a one score game in the fourth quarter. They were totally dominating it. The packers rolled and they were sloppy. I mean, they got to clean a lot of stuff up. They had 10 penalties. They were starting two backups on the offensive line. Micah Parsons only took 68 snaps. And they have rolled two very good rosters. And last year we like Green Bay a lot, but they struggled against the best teams. They were.06 against Philadelphia, Detroit and Minnesota. Yeah, that's over. So the only time that Detroit and Washington felt like they could compete was in the fourth quarter. And it's garbage time. So, I mean, this is. They have four different wide receivers. Green Bay does that. According to next gen stats run 19 mph or faster. Washington has one Debo. Look twitchy and they'll get their offense in Washington. You know, McLaurin showed up late, but I mean, sometimes you just have to watch and just be honest about it. No team in the league. How often did Green Bay players pull away from Washington players? It could be reverses, bubble screens. I mean, it's a track team that tackles well. So Jordan Love has had nine straight games, regular season games. Think about this. And Jordan Love is a risk taker. He is more far than Aaron Rodgers. He's got a, he's got a big arm and he'll throw it and he'll throw it on the move. He's an aggressive quarterback and Matt LaFleur is a pretty aggressive coach. And yet Jordan Love has got nine straight regular season games without a turnover. And you know why he's doing that? Because he figured it out. Just get the ball to this speed group and they'll do the rest. So, I mean, this is, to me, this is hands down the most impressive team I've seen in the NFL. And they're not paying anybody outside of Jordan Love. You know, they're paying Micah, they're paying Jordan Love. They're not paying a lot of people. So the future is incredibly bright. A lot of teams have to buy free agents. You know, players are getting old and brittle. Young players get hurt, but they return to action sooner. So this team has so much depth at so many spots. And, and again, young players, young athletes recover quicker. I, I don't see any liability here holding this team back from getting to a Super Bowl. To me, I don't see a flaw. Just they, they got to clean some stuff up that are sloppy starters don't play in the preseason. It's week two that, you know, I don't take anything from the mistakes, they're all easy to clean up. And here's Jordan Love on the skill and speed that surrounds him. It's one of those things where, you know, we. We had a goal coming to the season to start the season off fast and build on the things we've done last year. And obviously, I think we got a really good offense and we've been talking about, you know, the sky's the limit. We got so many playmakers. We're really deep on offense and just got to find ways to go out there and, you know, execute against good defenses like. Like them. So I think it's ironic that the Miami Dolphins, previously the previous three years the fastest team in the NFL, had a players only meeting yesterday. And this is really the difference between Green Bay. When I think of Green Bay, I think of stability and patience. When I think of the Miami Dolphins, I think of shortcuts. Flash. And I've said this for years, I do think teams tend to embody the culture of the city. Like, when I was a young Kid in the 70s, Pittsburgh was known as, like, that's where you made steel. And the Steelers were tough. Of course they were tough. Pittsburghers were tough. People in Pittsburgh were tough. They made steel. For the rest of the country, Miami's always been a flashy town. And Dan Marino, big arm, it been flashy. Miami's flashy. You know, the last time they won a playoff game, Dave Wanstadt was a coach. Great defense, great run game. May want to get back to that. But it's interesting watching and juxtaposing Green Bay, the fastest team in the league, where it jumps off the television, how fast they are, and it did for Miami for three years, but they did it through a trade and had to pay a fortune for it. Green Bay is not paying any of their fast guys. So this is the difference between, you know, structure and stability and shortcuts. And they always say, there's an old saying, speed kills, you know, you know what really kills? Bad GMing, bad coaching, lack of culture. It makes even the fastest guys slower. And the fact they had a players only meeting after the first week is a danger sign. Football, the basic ethos of football. And it will always be true. Again, the last playoff win in Miami with a defensive coach, a run game and a defense, and time of possession. That football is built on details and drafting and development and physicality. And Miami's just not good at that. Now, if you can put elite speed on top of that, that's Green Bay. But, you know, I'm watching The packers last night. And I'm thinking as I'm watching the game last night, this is what Miami thought it would look like. We're just gonna, we're just gonna get the ball to the distributors and run around. Yeah, but you didn't have the coaching and the culture and the patience. You know, I, it, that's the difference. And I'm not picking on Miami because when they got Tyreek Hill and Jaden Waddle, you're like, oh, this is going to be crazy. But it should be noted, not only is Wonstadt a defensive guy who loved the run game, the last guy to win a playoff game there, when I think of the Miami Heat in that flashy city, you know what I think of? D. Wade's defense, Haslam's defense, LeBron's defense, Jimmy Butler's defense, Pat Riley defense, Eric Spoelstra defense. When they were winning like, you know, back to back Eastern Conference championship series, when they're getting into those games, they had a top three or four defense in the league. So Miami may live in that crazy flashy speedboat town, but the core of Miami has always been long practices, tough and physicality, and then Tyler Herro can go hit a three. But I, you know, I just, I just looked at Green Bay and I thought, this is what Miami thought they would be. And they don't have the stability and they don't have the patience and, and they're having a players only meeting after week one. Yikes. Here's two on the meeting. A lot of it has to do with communication. What, what you want out of the guys, what the guys should expect from you coming into a game like this week, prior to the game that happened, from the performance that I put out there, obviously it starts with me, but with those guys, you know, just communicating to them what, what our expectation is going into this week and being able to move forward from that, you know, 17. We got 17 games that, that were, you know, guaranteed. That was one of them. It's a long season ahead. That it certainly is. So Tom Brady was on the show yesterday and Tom Brady had a lot to say and a very brutally honest takedown of some bad coaching and bad quarterback play in the NFL. And we will talk about that coming up next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me, three time Pro Bowler LeVar Arrington. And I couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called up on Game. 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And so is it fair, I asked Tom Brady, is it fair by Thanksgiving of this year, Thanksgiving of year two, that you can make a definitive statement if Caleb Williams isn't good enough to just move on? There's a lot of people who have no idea what they're doing when they're tasked with coaching a quarterback or calling an offense. So are you saying, I mean, just like we'd rank quarterbacks 1 to 32, do you rank offensive coordinators 1 to 32? What if you're a quarterback and you go to a system and they teach you coverage? They don't teach you cover one, they don't teach you cover two. They don't teach you cover four. They don't have personnel meetings. They give you an offensive game plan, and they go, all right, bud, here you go. Figure it out. And after Thanksgiving, your second year, they're going, man, this guy just can't play anymore. Well, and this is a point Brady has made on my show multiple times in two years. There's a lot of people, even some of the good coaches, like Mike Tomlin, and they're not great with quarterback play. Like, they just don't have a feel for it. So. And I, and we were. I was sitting down this morning and I said, if you gave me a circle of trust of teams in this league that I'm absolutely sure would get the most out of any quarterback they would draft or sign, I came up with seven teams. Now, that. That doesn't mean Buffalo doesn't have good coaches, but Josh Allen would have succeeded anywhere. It doesn't mean Baltimore doesn't have good coaches, but Lamar Jackson, such a unique, special talent, I think he would have had success anywhere. But I would say Chargers with Harbaugh, Andy Reid and the Chiefs. Sean Payton in Denver, Green Bay, San Francisco with Shanahan, McVeigh and Kevin O'. Connell. That's kind of my quarterback development circle of trust again. That doesn't mean Baltimore isn't a great organization. I've argued it may be the best top to bottom, but I think John Harbaugh comes more of a defense, special teams background. And I think Lamar was such a unique talent. It just. He was going to gain yards. It just didn't matter who got him. He was going to have some success. That's one fifth of the league like those McVeigh, Shanahan, Kevin O', Connell, you say, well, what about Joe Burrow? You don't think Joe Burrow would be better in San Francisco or LA really had better ownership, better all lines. I mean, Baker Mayfield has had 10 offensive coordinators already in the NFL. It's there just a lot of bounce around coaches in this league and Baker's flourished now. So credit to Darnold and Geno and Baker, who've had multiple coaches, multiple teams, multiple quarterbacks, and they're still flourishing. They deserve a ton of credit. But the circle of trust in this league. And then you could say, well, what did the Niners do with the Trey Lance? Well, Trey Lance isn't viewed as a franchise quarterback by anybody in the league. There are some players you're not going to take to a next level because they're just not that guy. I don't think Mac Jones is a franchise quarterback. He'll be okay with Kyle Shanahan because he's okay. But there are not many places in this league to Tom's point where you can put a quarterback and you're like, yeah, they'll get the most out of him. I mean, go back to what Sean McVay did with one practice. Remember that? With Baker Mayfield, one practice, and I think it was a Monday night game. I could be wrong, but he brought him in with one practice. And if I recall, Baker had like a game winning drive late. Remember what Kevin o' Connell did in Minnesota? He brought in a very smart kid. The kid's very smart. Josh Dobbs. No practices. And Josh Dobbs had a great game with no practices. There are just a. There, there are, I mean, there are just very few teams in this league that I think, yeah, they'll, they'll get the quarterback, they'll get the most out of it. And that's why I think with Caleb Williams, I thought last year was the worst situation any young quarterback could go into. Chicago defensive coach on the hot seat and a loud media that was going to get really ugly if things went sideway fast. At least now with Ben Johnson, I feel like Caleb with a rebuilt O line and Ben Johnson, Caleb, if he doesn't succeed, it's not in the organization. They've given him a fair chance to succeed. With Ben in the rebuild offensive line, they got nice weapons. Roma, Dunze, DJ Moore, Cole, Comet Loveland from Michigan. I mean, they got swift. They got real, real players now and real offensive coaches. But Brady's been on this for two years and not everybody knows what they're doing with quarterbacks. And it's weird because it is the most, by a mile, not even close, the most important position in the entire sport. And about A seventh of the league. I trust with it. A fifth of the league maybe. I trust with the position. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd line news. All right, Colin, let's start with a great matchup in Pittsburgh this weekend. Seattle travels to Pittsburgh to face Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. A big narrative around, hey, Rogers had four touchdowns. He's back. I don't know. OC Arthur Smith is playing, pushing back on some narratives that are negative against Rogers. There's a lot of misconceptions at times, but he's one of the best leaders I've been around. He's authentic. Aaron Rodgers, one win and now everybody, it's Kumbaya with Arthur. Well, let's be fair. Four touchdowns. It is interesting though that you can look sometimes at a quarterback's numbers. I told you, I thought Brock Purdy. That was the most I ever had been impressed with Brock Purdy and he threw two picks. You got to be careful about the data. PFF ranked Aaron Rodgers fourth. I saw the number here. Hold on. Well, listen, he had a couple. He had some good numbers. No, but it was interesting what PFF had him graded as, I think. Pff. Yeah, it was. Aaron was the fifth lowest graded quarterback in week one according to pff. Yeah. So this idea that it's all they scored a bunch of Pittsburgh was a mirage in week one. First of all, their defense will be much better against Seattle. They got all these new pieces. So Pittsburgh's defense is not that bad. It's going to be much better against the Seahawks. And Aaron is not going to go four touchdowns and no picks and have that time to throw. He's not like he did last week against the Jets. That Seahawks defense is. Got the same coaching staff from last year. It is young, it is fast. Aaron just stats and scoreboard can be way overvalued. I totally agree, Colin. And I actually think that we're wrong on the scoreboard. I don't again, five years ago, Aaron Rodgers mattered. I personally don't think people are interested in Aaron Rodgers in 2025. He's just not that interesting anymore. And like, we could take sample size. Oh, look online. People are talking about him, people. He's not like a top 10 more interesting quarterback in the league. And that's because, well, we're in the golden age of quarterbacks in my lifetime. You watched Jordan Love last night. We don't even put Jordan. When we talk top 10 quarterbacks, we don't naturally put Jordan Love in it. Oh, he's definitely ahead of Aaron Rodgers. That's not even, that's not even debatable. But my point is we have so many good quarterbacks now that we don't put Dak or Jordan Love in the top 10 and go watch what they've looked like through three starts between those two. They've been incredible. The quality of quarterback play right now is insane in the NFL. I'm actually more interested to see how Sam Darnold does in this spot. Pittsburgh's a little beat up on the defense coming off that jets game. I think it's going to be a close 2017 football game. I think it's going to look a lot like San Francisco and Seattle. It's going to look a lot like that. So. But my thing about Darnold, I know he's your guy, obviously the USC ties, he was great last year for Kevin o' Connell and had Justin Jefferson. Now you downshift in Seattle and you don't have that. And I just wonder, Colin, if he doesn't show well here this weekend. Are you off? Remember you had Seattle, I think winning the division or second going to the playoffs. Does this give you pause if they lose back to back games to start the season? No, I have him as a wild card team. I think he went from Kevin o', Connell, which is offensive creative coach and all sorts of offensive skill to Seattle, which has their best players on defense, does not have a true number one and has a defensive coach. So I think Seattle is kind of the opposite of Minnesota in terms of like culture and offense and how they view the world. Seattle ran 52% of their plays last week and I thought that was lower. I thought they'd be almost a 55% run team. Seattle wants to gobble up the line, run the ball, speed the game up and be attacking on defense. So I, I think what you're going to see, the Steelers defense is going to come to play. They're going to play much better. They're at home, they can't play worse. And Seattle is going to just try to pound it out. Run game, put Darnold in very few positions to fail. I think it's a very close, very low scoring game. Totally agree. Let's go to Monday Night Football. Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh, you know, they have a long rivalry. Apparently they're six and six head to head and they, you know, they used to meet in the PAC12 way back in the day. Monday, the Raiders host the Chargers and the rivalry will be renewed. Here are the coaches Talking about matching up once again. I remember Jim. No, I don't. I have no fond memories. I'm not gonna go there. They're good. That's great games. They've been great games. That's all. That's pretty well documented. And he was a great coach, you know, one of the, one of the best. It's a lot of respect. You know, I always think that had I ever played, you know, for him, you know, one of his teams because he was coaching when I was playing and or was on his staff, once I got into coaching, I bet we would have been like really good friends. Yeah. I remember when Harbaugh took a stanford team into USC as a 40 point dog. I remember that. That's. It was probably the upset of the decade at the time before. Didn't App State beat Michigan after that at some point? But they did beat Michigan. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean I remember that game and it was the Stanford stuff. Stanford was a mess when he took it over and they became a. An incredibly tough, physical team with Andrew Luck. But I mean these guys are different personalities. But you know what, they both aged well. Harbaugh's chilled out. I mean he's kind of chilled now. He's much more intense. He's. He's more laid back and chill now. And Pete has aged incredibly well because he has the most insane energy I've ever seen by anyone. Yeah, I mean he, Pete is just working that gum like he's 32 years old. So I mean, you know, oh, they happened a month apart. Is that true? The staff says App State, Michigan, USC sounds about right. But I mean I just, I think both these guys are a testament to aging well. They're obsessed with football and it shows. Yeah. In regard to the matchup, Patriots slot receivers destroyed the Raiders. Their cornerback was one of the worst opening weeks lad McConkey is going to eat on Monday night. I like, I like the Chargers big in that one by the way. Michigan State. Michigan lost to App State September 2007, October, Stanford, USC. So they were literally those are the two that year you had two of the biggest upsets. I can never remember in college football. That. Can't believe that was 18 years ago and you remembered it. Yeah, no, I remember and I remember the, the, the App State Michigan game. I think there was a field goal that played a part late in the game as a long time ago. But yeah, crazy year. Yeah. I don't remember what I had for dinner Tuesday night. All right, let's go. Final story is the New York Giants obviously were terrible in week one. Could get no offense started with Russell Wilson under center. Sunday on Fox. They faced the Cowboys, and there's a lot of chatter about Jackson Dart, but Russell Wilson is not phased. Here's his confidence level entering week two. I think that you. You embrace challenge. You know, I don't think I run from challenges. I don't think I run from, you know, anything. I know how confident I am in myself. Confident I am the guys that we have. I think for me personally, you know, my confidence never blinks. You know, I just. I've been through everything. You know, I've been through all the biggest highs there could be. I've been through a few lows. But at the same time, I also know that my confidence never wavers. Yeah, I don't think he loses confidence. I think what he's lost is elusiven. I think that was the secret sauce. I mean, listen, Nolan Ryan could throw a curve, but if his fastball got down to 92, he's not Nolan Ryan. Like, you know, it didn't. But that. That's the reality of what he is. Russell made a living on being elusive, and when he lost that ability to do that, he was never an elite pocket guy. He was good at running around and good over the top on those rainbow throws. But, I mean, you and I have talked about this. I. In my lifetime, I do not remember a quarterback going from Pro bowl to what I viewed the last four years. It's not like he doesn't work hard, but it's. His game was so uniquely elusive. He wasn't a burner. He just had this ability, like a kid running through a mall around people. Like, he had this ability to make people miss, and then all of a sudden, now they don't miss. And there's not a lot there because he's not a great pocket quarterback. All right, two quick ones. A. Is Russell Wilson a Hall of Famer? No. No. Fine. If Marshawn lynch, he actually carries a football and scores a touchdown, he has two Super Bowls. Is he a Hall of Famer then? You're asking me if he's a Hall of Famer? I didn't say he wouldn't get votes. No, no. Would you vote in it? That's. No, No. I know, but I think. But I think you can put him on a ballot. I mean, but I don't think it is. I don't think. Okay. Yeah. And then the second one. Will Jackson dart take a snap this week against Dallas, yes or no? No, because I think it'll be a close game and it's a division game and I think you have to, you have to play that. You got to give. I think if they trail like 14 nothing at half and aren't moving the ball. Yeah, I think you think about it walking to the locker room. But I, and, and I, I said before, I, I think you got to play Jackson Dart very soon. But I think, I don't think Brian Dable wants to bail after six quarters. You know, I. So I think they'll give him eight quarters to start. See where you're at. And you may not have a choice. Colin Dable's on the hot seat. How, how long you want to wait before you. Hey, we got to give this guy a shot. I'm cooked if Russ keeps this up. I like the Cowboys in Survivor this week. I know you're not a huge Survivor player, but I think the Cowboys are winning this game. I don't see them losing it. They're in all my teasers. Is there any world where the Giants win this? Colin? That's funny. So my, my most assured pick in week one almost backfired. Philadelphia, I thought would be Dallas. That was a lock. So I can't use Philadelphia in week two. Who would I use in that survey? I'm going to tell you something. Even by week two, it gets tricky. It depends. Baltimore Ravens are favored by like 12. I would say Arizona. I'd use my Arizona. Arizona at home against Carolina. If I was in a survival pool, that would probably be my pick. Well, I'm in multiple and sometimes multiple entries. So, yes, that's another pick of mine. All right, J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. So I was saying this with the Packers. Just trust your eyes. That is the fastest team in the league. The Kansas City Chiefs. Trust your eyes. They're not a very good offensive football team. The run game, below average offensive line, well below average. If Xavier Worthy doesn't play, they don't have a number one receiver. And if he does, he's still not a number one receiver. He's more of a gadget guy in a two. So the Chiefs offense since 2023, this is hard to get your brain around because it was so good early. The first five or six years was so dynamic. But they're like middle of the pack, 23rd in rushing, 27th in big plays, 18 in red zone percentage. And that's with Mahomes and Andy Reid. So if Mahomes and Andy Reid can't do better than 18th in red zone efficiency. I mean, these are guys that dialed up sky more in the super bowl to be wide open for touchdowns. So, I mean, last year they were 31st in the NFL in big plays and they had the fewest rushes of over 10 yards. So it's one of those things. I was joking this morning that I remember there a show came out called True Detective and it had eight episodes and there was 12 Emmy nominations and it was just unbelievable. It became my favorite show. Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and so I could not wait for year two. And I was just like, every episode's been unbelievable. And by the middle of the second episode of year two, I was like, yeah, it's not very good. I'm gonna trust my instincts on TV viewing. It's not very good. And I feel like with Kansas City, they had so many big years that you just sort of like, yeah, I mean, wow. They don't have any wow. There's. There's not a lot of wow there. They don't run the ball. The old line's getting rebuilt again. And yeah, and again, this is with Reed Mahomes and a great gm. So they have, they have hit on a lot of defensive draft picks. But it may have the same name. But True Detective year two wasn't the same show. And it may be the Chiefs, Mahomes and Reed is not the same show. Here's Brady yesterday on Mahomes trying to carry the load. Right now in KC when you control both sides of the line of scrimmage, you have a huge opportunity for success. And it takes someone like Patrick Mahomes to kind of have that Mahomes magic and pull the rabbit out of his hat in order to keep his team in the game. With the rookie Simmons, with Sumatai, who's in there as a second round pick from last year, Creed Humphrey there and Trey Smith at right guard. Their they're set up to have a pretty good offensive line as they gel and grow together. So that will be great for Patrick to feel like he has some confidence to stand back there. But right now, when you watch them, trust your eyes. He does not remember last year. We talked about this last year, Greg Cosell came on our show and I asked Greg Cosell, I said, what is wrong with Kansas City's offense? And do you remember what Greg Cosell, he said it last year, early in the season, week four or five, he said, patrick does not trust his own line. He doesn't trust it. You can watch his feet he doesn't trust it. So am I supposed to believe after getting blown out by the Eagles in the super bowl and getting beat by the Chargers and facing pressure, he trusts it now. Now that to Tom's point. He may trust it in six weeks, but right now, trust what you're seeing. There's no wow for an offense. That was the definition of wow. The first five years. Six years of Mahomes blazing five, Top of the hour. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. The best B2B marketing gets wasted on the wrong people. So when you want to reach the right professionals, use LinkedIn ads. LinkedIn has grown to a network of over 1 billion professionals, and that's where it stands apart from other ad buys. You can target your buyers by job title, industry role, company seniority, skills, company revenue, all the professionals you need to reach in one place. Stop wasting budget on the wrong audience. Start targeting the right professionals only on LinkedIn ads. 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I don't think Jaden Daniel is going to be a sophomore slump guy because I think he has elements to his personality and his makeup that are, that transcend slumps. Iq, maturity, EQ poise. Those are slump proof power hitters in baseball. They have slumps. Tony Gwynn hit 415 against Greg Maddox. Contact hitters like Tony Gwynn at not really slumpy. Steph Curry, 16 years in the league, 39% to 44%. He doesn't have slump years. He may have a bad half. So I, I think Washington last night ran into a green and white buzzsaw. It was a short week. They were on the road. Green Bay's the best team in the league. Green Bay is the fastest team in the league and Washington isn't. They have one receiver that runs over 19 miles an hour. Next gen stats. Green Bay's got four and I think one of Green Bay's most talented skilled players, Kraft. As a kid he'll only get better and he's great now and golden out of Texas again. It's his second NFL game. So they were short week on the road. Old team against the young team. I, I don't worry about Jaden Daniels at all. I think he's magnificent and here he is after we got 10 games, I mean 10 days to our next game. So there's nothing to dwell about it. You know, it's early in the season. I wouldn't expect anybody in this locker room to hit a panic button. We placed, we faced a really good team and we came up short. They've got a new left tackle, Debo's a new chess piece. McLaurin got into camp late so, and I think just watching Green Bay, I mean Detroit was a bulldozing run game and last week against the packers they couldn't move the ball. So you see this sometimes where like you just see a team. I mean wait till Micah's playing 90% of the snaps. I mean Micah played 48% last week. He played 68% last night. I mean you watch these highlights we're showing you on television. Green Bay's closing speed is everywhere and they're, and you know, the faster you are, the more aggressive you are. And the packers are super aggressive. And I just don't think Washington knew what they were in for. So I saw this 15 years ago. I was doing this show on radio and I made a pivot. So I was at the other place and I was about four or five years into my career at the other place and I was in the gym. And after my workout, I ran into a senior manager at the other place. And we were talking about, we both like business and kind of the architecture of radio and tv. And we were talking about behind the scenes boring stuff, but it wasn't boring to us. And that person said at espn, I would never say this out loud, but baseball's a regional and local sport. And he said, it's hard to do as a national network because people in New York really necessarily care about the A's of the Mariners, and people in Seattle don't care about the Texas Rangers or the Rays. But a Seahawk. Seahawk fan would watch the Buccaneers, and a Charger fan would absolutely watch the Vikings. But would a Padre fan care about the Twins? It's a local, regional sport. And so at that time, I made a pivot that I was going to talk about pro football about 70% of my show, which seems crazy, but I always argued that if I was in London doing a show, 75% of my show would be the English Premier League. If I was in Canada, I'd have to leave because 75% of my show would have to be hockey. So I would, I would, I would move somewhere. No disrespect, I go to Canada every other summer. So I just saw the numbers for the NFL right now. And the reality is NFL Week 1 viewership is off to a massive start. And I think what's happening as the platforms have increased in America, there's just more places, more streaming outlets, more TikTok as it's gotten wider. There is only one thing in this country that transcends all of it and can get people away from their phones. It's politics and presidential election years every four years that'll get people off their phones. And it's the NFL, not even sports. The NFL Top Hundred shows. Last year, I think 94 were football. So I, I, I, you know, I just. It's funny, I hear all these discussions. This cracks me up. Hey, let's do a red zone in baseball. We could do a red zone in college football, do a red zone in hockey. You do get what makes the red zone great. It's not the name Red Zone, and I love Scott Hansen, but it's not the host. It's the National Football League. It works because of the NFL. Regardless of the host, and he's terrific. And regardless of the name, the red zone works because of the NFL. It's not going to work for any other sport, so you can try it, but there's an urgency to it. And it was funny this week, Adam Silver, who I think is really good at what he does, Adam Silver admitted he said, we're kind of a highlight league. People watch us in highlights. And David Stern, before his death, privately would tell people, listen, People watch this in the playoffs, but mostly they watch our highlights because NBA players are such great athletes. The highlights are so much fun to watch. But the only sport, according to every piece of data that we really sit down, get off our phones and watch, is Sunday in the NFL. That's it. And this weekend, Eagles, Chiefs. From what I'm hearing on Fox, we think it's going to set an NFL potential NFL playoff record if it's close. I do think it's close. I think the night the Chiefs got so humiliated in the super bowl that I think there's going to be so much pride and so much resilience. The Chiefs have too many smart people in the building and they have a very good defense. I think it's going to be a pretty low scoring game and I think Kansas City is going to keep it close. But you know, Philadelphia is so good on third down and so good on fourth down. You're going to have those circumstantial situational plays in the game that I think just Philadelphia is so good at. They're going to get the fourth down, they're going to pick up the red zone first down and Kansas City struggling with that. But I do think it's a close game. But week one of the NFL viewership, unbelievable. I have blazing five at the top of the hour. J Max got his picks is there. I want to put up the schedule because I always ask you this, J Mac, we have an upset in every week now. Last week Tennessee almost upset Denver and last week Dallas, if not for the cd Lamb dropped almost upset Philadelphia. So last week it was a lot of favorites. There were close games, but it wasn't the massive upset. Is there anything in this schedule? So Green Bay was a favorite last night and they housed Washington. I think you and I believe. I think both of us believe. With Brock Purdy out, the Saints have a chance at home to beat San Francisco. Is that fair? You don't think so? I'm on Niners there. I basically bet three games pretty heavily this week. Texans Monday Night Football, Detroit Lions against your Bears and then the one underdog we both like Tennessee Titans getting six and five and a half based on the Rams injury report. The Titans defense, which I like a lot and I think we agree Cam Ward showed much better than the final Stat line. I think his receivers had four or five drops and I think there could be a letdown for the Rams. They have, I believe it's the Eagles on deck next week or they have a tough opponent next week. I like the Titans as a dog. That could win outright. By the way, what do you make of Raiders? Chargers. Raiders at home. Chargers from Brazil. Chargers still, you know, they'll have some questions on that O line. I'm going to rock with the Chargers on the road. My brother will be at that game, invited me, but I was like, listen, I got this little show to do called the Herd, you know, Jeffrey. So I can't quite make it, but he'll be in Vegas for that one. Should be a good game. I mean, I like Chargers. Yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah, there's. There's. You know what's interesting? The Raiders and the Jags pulled off wins in Week one. And so do you trust the Raiders? Do you trust the Jags? It's, you know, like, I think, like, certain things that we saw in Week one will not be true. Like the Steelers defense is not that bad. They got new pieces here. Older players, by the way, they brought in, don't play in the preseason. The Steelers defense is not going to look like that going forward. I am a. I don't think Justin Fields is going to look like that going forward. Like, certain things I think are true that I think you can take certain things. Like Green Bay, they're really fast. They're really aggressive. They have a ton of speed. That is a fact. Detroit, their coaching's not as good as last year. That is a fact. Pittsburgh's defense will not look like that this week. Or going for it won't look that pathetic. How about the Colts and Stichen and Daniel Jones? Will they look that good against Denver? I've been looking at that game a lot. Colin, Here's a blazing five. Oh, yeah, it's in my blazing five. I mean, let's be honest. Miami and I don't know if you can quit, but defensively, Miami felt like they quit. Not offensively, but you're going to go from the most disorganized defense in the league. In Week one, Daniel Jones and the Colts faced to, I think, easily the best pass rush in the league. And by the way, as Sean Payton always said, the best time to coach a team is when you play like crap and win. He goes, you can ride your players that next week. Denver played poorly and won. Yeah. So watch. Watch Denver come out on fire. And I'm telling you, that pass rush, it is a sea of orange. We like a lot of the same games this week, I think Blazing five. Next. The her. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. 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