THE HERD – HOUR 1 – Pulisic’s World Cup Dud, 76ers + LeBron Would Be STACKED

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Hour 1 Summary

Episode Theme:
A lively exploration of sports accountability, star expectations, and legacy management, with deep dives into U.S. soccer’s rising scrutiny, the value of Christian Pulisic, LeBron James’ “sunset stage” and hypothetical Sixers superteam, plus quick-hitters on NFL wide receiver drama, college football’s best coaches, and the World Cup elite.
Date: July 9, 2026

1. U.S. Soccer’s “Arrival”—The Critique of Christian Pulisic

Section Start: [03:43]

Key Points:

• Christian Pulisic faces post-World Cup backlash:

  • After the U.S. men’s team’s disappointing World Cup, Pulisic and his camp release details about a bone bruise/microfracture.
  • Colin argues this reinforces America’s arrival as a soccer nation: criticizing stars for underperformance is part of the global soccer culture.

• Echoes global standards:

  • “This is what happens in England when you don’t get it done at the World Cup. It’s what happens in Brazil and Argentina. We’ve arrived.” – Colin ([03:56])

• Landon Donovan and other U.S. soccer legends speak out:

  • Landon Donovan, Carli Lloyd, Stu Holden, Alexi Lalas criticize Pulisic’s management and lack of captaincy.
  • “People are fed up with the way things are handled around him... he needs to man up and have a conversation with them.” – Donovan (paraphrased by Colin, [05:15])

• Media culture and athlete “handlers”:

  • U.S. soccer media seen as too soft, like NBA media.
  • Pulisic’s layers of agents and PR create resentment, even among legitimate stakeholders.

• Comparison to other stars:

  • Noted how star systems (like Tom Brady’s TB12) create necessary boundaries but sometimes breed organizational friction.

• Why hasn’t Pulisic been captain?

  • Raises the issue that other world stars—Messi, Mbappe, Kane—are captains; Pulisic is not, which is significant.

Notable Quotes:

• “Before the injury, there was disappointment. Do I think if Christian Pulisic scored seven goals at the World Cup this would come out? No, I don’t.” – Colin ([04:15])
• “There’s always resentment for stars, unless you’re winning.” – Colin ([09:38])

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2. LeBron James and the 76ers — “The Best Starting Five He’s Ever Had”?

Section Start: [11:12]

Key Points:

• LeBron’s “sunset stage” and hypothetical move to Philadelphia:

  • Colin argues it makes sense for aging greats to pick an easier path: “The Sunset Stage. Take the easy way out. Give yourself a bonus.”
  • The potential 76ers starting five: Tyrese Maxey, VJ Edgecombe, Jaylen Brown, Joel Embiid, LeBron James.

• Stacking up against the Miami “Heatles”:

  • Colin and Jason McIntyre debate whether this would be LeBron’s greatest supporting cast.
  • “I don’t want to hear about the Heatles… Tyrese Maxey is All-NBA. Edgecombe, ascending rocket ship. Joel Embiid, Hall of Famer, MVP. Jaylen Brown, All-NBA.” – Colin ([11:38])
  • “Damn straight it is [the easy way out]. The Sunset stage is all about the easy way out.” – Colin ([12:32])

• Winning as a source of happiness:

  • “You know what makes people happy? Winning.” – Colin ([14:05])

• Skepticism about logistics:

  • Some discuss if the money can work; others raise concerns about chemistry and roles.

• Leadership question:

  • McIntyre presses on who would actually lead—LeBron, Embiid, or Brown? Colin thinks LeBron leads, but others can shoot in key moments ([18:00]).

Notable Quotes:

• “Every industry, work smarter. You could play 24 minutes. You could take a night off... Winning is fun and happiness is not having to carry a team.” – Colin ([17:14])
• “Are you kidding me? There’s a shot all five of those guys are Hall of Famers.” – Colin ([14:20])

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3. Global Soccer Standards & U.S. Reality Check

Section Start: [22:18]

Key Points:

• Talent depth in England vs. U.S.:

  • English star Morgan Rogers, a double-digit Premier League scorer, can’t make England’s starting lineup.
  • Pulisic’s market value is only 1/5th that of Spain’s top player.

• U.S. soccer progress is real, but perspective is key:

  • “Look at the names in the quarterfinals: Spain, England, Belgium, Argentina, France. Those are the kids that win the spelling bee. They have a hundred year advantage over us on infrastructure.” – Colin ([24:46])

• Long-term planning (Japan’s 100-year plan):

  • “Japan, in 1992, released a 100-year plan to win the World Cup… Incremental, okay?” ([25:18])

• Bruce Arena’s assessment:

  • “Christian’s a good player, but he’s not in the class of these elite players in the world right now.” – Colin quoting Bruce Arena ([27:16])

• Geography and soccer overachievement:

  • Morocco’s proximity to Spain/Portugal gives it a developmental edge.

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4. NFL Wide Receivers: The “Real Housewives” of Football

Section Start: [29:06]

Key Points:

• Tom Brady’s take on WR drama:

  • Brady compares the position to a soap opera, owing to the high emotions and turnover.
  • “It’s like Real Housewives of the NFL.” – Colin ([29:32])

• Teams pre-emptively moving on from stars:

  • Loyalty to QBs and left tackles, but WRs—even great ones—see shorter tenures.

• “No drama” stars (JSN, Fitzgerald):

  • Colin and company praise Jaxon Smith-Njigba's low-maintenance style as a modern rarity.

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5. Debate: College Football’s Best Coaches

Section Start: [32:03]

Key Points:

• ESPN’s controversial list:

  • Kurt Signetti ranks #1 after a title season at Indiana, over established names (Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, Marcus Freeman).

• Colin’s perspective:

  • Signetti is “exceptional” but owes a lot to superstar QB Fernando Mendoza, likening it to the Belichick/Brady split.

• Quarterback impact:

  • “If you have a star quarterback, they take you to another level. …I think it’s much closer to 50/50” (coach/QB split). ([34:12])

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6. World Cup Quarterfinals & Underdogs

Section Start: [35:14]

Key Points:

• Preview of France vs. Morocco:

  • Morocco’s athleticism is second only to France’s; key Moroccan attacker is out.

• Favorites vs. underdogs:

  • Colin unapologetically prefers the “blue blood” matchups—no March Madness-style Cinderellas needed.
  • “I do not want Virginia Commonwealth in my Final Four.” – Colin ([36:47])

• Superstars matter:

  • Norway’s Erling Haaland called “a LeBron” for his singular ability to raise a team’s ceiling.
  • “Erling Haaland has led the world’s best league in scoring three of the last four years. He is the dominant player in the best league.” – Colin ([37:12])

• Mbappé vs. Haaland debate:

  • Friendly back-and-forth on who deserves to be called the world's best.

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7. NBA Chemistry & The 76ers' Gambit

Section Start: [44:09]

Key Points:

• Chris Broussard’s skepticism:

  • Still doubts Joel Embiid’s durability; healthy Embiid makes Sixers formidable but calls him a “giant question mark.”
  • Embiid’s in-and-out presence creates two teams within one, disrupting chemistry.
  • Maxey, Edgecombe, and Brown all want to be “the man,” so adding LeBron raises major role questions.

• On Boston’s future without Jaylen Brown:

  • Brad Stevens remains top-tier; analytics undervalue Brown, but Boston still projects as a 50-win team.

• 76ers as an “entertaining circus:”

  • Concerns about “one basketball” for so many alpha scorers, but history (Warriors, KD/Steph/Klay) shows talent can trump fit.

Notable Quotes:

• Chris Broussard: “If Embiid was guaranteed … healthy, I would say LeBron should go there, but he’s not. And those other three [Maxey, Edgecombe, Brown] are going to have personal agendas.” ([46:18])

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• "There's always resentment for stars, unless you're winning." — Colin ([09:38])
• "The Sunset Stage. Take the easy way out. Give yourself a bonus. Play the white tees." — Colin, on veteran stars ([12:32])
• “Japan, in 1992, released a 100 year plan to win the World Cup… Incremental, okay?” — Colin ([25:18])
• “It’s like Real Housewives of the NFL.” — Colin ([29:32])
• “That looks fantastic… except I put a giant question mark… over Joel Embiid. I cannot trust Joel Embiid.” — Chris Broussard ([44:57])
• “I do not want Virginia Commonwealth in my final four.” — Colin, on upsets ([36:47])
• “Are you kidding me? There’s a shot all five of those guys are Hall of Famers.” — Colin, on Sixers superteam ([14:20])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pulisic post-World Cup criticism & “star culture”: [03:43] – [11:12]
• LeBron to Sixers discussion: [11:12] – [21:00]
• U.S. soccer vs. global standards, Pulisic’s value: [22:18] – [28:43]
• NFL WR drama: [29:06] – [31:58]
• College football coaching ranking debate: [32:03] – [35:14]
• World Cup quarterfinals preview, “favorites” vs. upsets: [35:14] – [39:03]
• NBA, Embiid/LeBron/76ers, Celtics’ outlook: [44:09] – [49:03]

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of The Herd captures how American sports are evolving to match the world’s highest standards of candor and expectation—starting with U.S. soccer’s handling of Christian Pulisic, then moving through the lens of NBA superstar legacy management and the relentless pressure cooker of modern football. In each case, Colin and his guests insist that greatness invites not just praise, but critique, and sometimes, a little healthy chaos is a necessary cost of chasing the ultimate prize.

Transcript

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Colin Cowherd]

or call 1-800-444-BOTOX thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Welcome in. It is a Thursday. We are live. It is the Herd. United States State American soccer star Christian Pulisic. The knives are out. Pulisic making sure everybody hears that he's injured. It is just fantastic. This is what happens in England when you don't get it done at the World Cup. It's what happens in Brazil and Argentina. I'll tell you, we've arrived. We're beating up on Christian Pulithic. I'll be the first one to say it. It's healthy. We crush Caleb Williams. We crush Patrick Mahomes. We crush Joe Burrow. Oh, Christian Pulisic's getting criticized. Pulisic's people made sure this got out. Today. Pulisic suffered a bone bruise micro fracture of the tibia. Nobody's denying he's hurt, but before the injury there was disappointment. Do I think if Christian Pulisic scored seven goals in the World cup this would come out? No, I don't. But Pulisic has been our best soccer player arguably in the country for six, seven years, four time player of the year and like maybe Our best ever. So this is part and parcel to what happens if you go to a World cup and you're on no show. Remember, before the injury, we were greatly disappointed. And because our soccer media is a little soft and precious and too often panders like our NBA media too often does, it's taken actual soccer players to lower the boom. Here's Landon Donovan again. The media in soccer won't do it. So Landon Donovan delivers. I speak to people who are at U.S. soccer. I speak to his sponsors, I speak to his teammates. I speak to the staff and the coaches. People are fed up with the way things are handled around him. I actually don't think it's from him. I think it's from the people around him and they need to stop and he needs to man up and have a conversation with them and say, look, guys, this is not helping me. Ask yourself. At the World Cup, Messi's a captain for his team. Mbappe is a captain for his team. Harry Kane's a captain for his team. Last two World Cups. Pulisic isn't. Burhalter? Nope. Pochettino? Nope. I'll give it to the old guy. Burhalter went with a young guy. Why isn't he the captain? This is not out of bounds. Why isn't he the captain? I do think when you become Tom Cruise or LeBron James or Messi or a big deal in Silicon Valley, you have handlers, you have layers of people to kind of stop the wannabes from hanging around. And it creates resentment because it also keeps some legitimate people at bay. Tom Cru did TB12. Belichick hated it. He tolerated it. Belichick hated it. Brady was saying, my guy's better than the team people, so I'm going to have my guy work on me, not the team people. Brady was right. I agree with Brady. Patriots didn't like it. They didn't like it at all. And the truth is, as our greatest soccer player, Pulisic probably has some handlers, an agent, a PR person to keep the wannabes and the hanger ons and the sponsors at bay. I don't blame him at all. Now that does create resentment because we're. There are some legitimate people in the soccer federation that are also kept at bay. I've seen it in Hollywood, in tech, in sports, my entire life. So I thought. I think if he scored seven or eight goals in the World cup, you wouldn't hear about it. But the problem, when you are a star and you have these layered. Michael Jordan talked about it. It Gets very lonely on the road. You don't go out, you're in your hotel room. There's pictures, there's documentaries. You become sort of insulated you to keep away the hangar honors. But in that process, it creates resentment from, like, legitimate people who are also too often kept at bay and don't have the control they want as managers and bosses. And I think there's a lot of that. You're hearing it from Landon Donovan, you heard it from Stu Holden. It's taken players, Carli Lloyd, Alexi Lawless. It's taken American players, men and women, to come out. They've all been talking about this for years. This is not a new thing. Why wasn't he captain last World Cup? Why isn't he captain this World Cup? Messi is. Mbappe is. Harry Kane is what's going on now. I also think this is true because as our best, arguably best American soccer player ever, he's played 11 years of his career overseas. Well, folks, when you stay at a Ritz Carlton, a Marriott won't do. When you stay at a Four Seasons, the Hilton doesn't feel like the same. So I think 11 years overseas, very sophisticated. He's seen the best. He played against the best. The best leagues, the biggest crowd, the toughest media. Sometimes he feels a little indifferent to, like a regional tournament that we really care and Pochettino really cares and Berhalter really cares and yeah, I mean, Pulisic kind of cares, kind of, but I'm over there at the really nice hotel and I think that's part of it. I'm not beating up on him, but I'm saying our soccer media tends to be a little precious. Let's defend him. This is unfair. It's not his fault he got a bad World Cup. He hasn't been named captain. If we're going to bang on NFL quarterback, look at how we treat our number one sport. Our media treats football guys like Argentina treats soccer guys. And until we are tough and demanding, it's okay. It's not over the line. Now, I think when it comes to injuries, I'm not going to guess how serious it was before the injury. We were all disappointed. But this is also part of the growth of soccer being really harsh when we disappoint. We got out of the group stage, we won a knockout stage game, but it wasn't good enough. It was an embarrassing loss. This is part of the growth. I'm not supporting Pulisic, but I'm saying the fact that you have people in the building Go ahead, yell at me. You don't know what you're talking about. Landon Donovan does Stu Holden does. Cody Lloyd does Alexi Lawless. They know what they're talking about. They know American soccer. And this is what happens when you are a star and you create the layer, which I'm not saying you can't do that. You could be a great. You could be a top podcaster. You got PR people and got people in front of you, and you got booking agents and you got an agent and you got handlers, and you don't want to do this and that and that, that's fine. But it does create resentment, so you better deliver, or the knives come out, you age out, you stink, you have a bad series, you're a little vulnerable. There's always resentment for stars, unless you're winning. There's always resentment for stars in every industry. Okay, so I'm gonna say something. You're gonna think I'm crazy. I'm not gonna tell LeBron James where to go. He in Savannah, it's the sunset stage. Like, there's multiple stages for a player. The show off stage, the championship stage, the mogul stage. LeBron's now moved into the Sunset stage. Where do you want to watch the sunset in your last year or two? And I truly believe this. If LeBron joined the Philadelphia 76ers, this is the best starting five he's ever had.

[Jason McIntyre]

Easily.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't want to hear about the Heatles. I don't want to hear about the Heatles. The Heatles had Mario Chalmers at point. Tyrese Maxey is all NBA. The Heatles had Joel Anthony at center. I'd say Joel Embiid, slightly better. The Heat didn't have any young ascending star like BJ Edgecombe.

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They were old.

[Colin Cowherd]

Ray Allen, baddie A. Mike Miller, Adonis Haslam. Adonis Haslam. Guys I love. They didn't have anybody like Edgecomb, who is a. An ascending star. Like, not good. Like, all star eight times. Jaylen Brown and D. Wade are very similar Playbowl fans. Very, very athletic. Both going to end up in the hall of fame. LeBron's obviously not good as. As good as the Miami LeBron, but if you're talking quality lineup, Tyrese Maxey, all NBA. Edgecomb, ascending rocket ship. Joel Embiid, hall of famer, MVP. Jaylen Brown, all NBA. And I've been hearing this. Well, if he chooses Philadelphia, it's the easy way out. Damn straight it is. The Sunset stage is all about the easy way out. You don't need to play the black tees anymore. Move up to the blues or the whites. And by the way, get a cart and grab a Bud Light. I don't need you. I know. You've proven you're great for all of you. I don't care what career you're in. You could be a landscaper or a lawyer. The Sunset Stage. Take the easy way out. Give yourself a bonus. Play the white tees. Grab a cart, couple of cigars, have somebody else pay for it. If I'm LeBron James and he shouldn't listen to me or anybody else, he should listen to Savannah, you know, his wife. He can make the decision. I'm just telling you that. Philadelphia, starting five. Oh, my God. I don't know if it would work, but LeBron said he wants to be happy and have fun. You know what's fun? Winning. You know what makes people happy? Winning. Edgecomb, Embiid. Jalen brown. Tyrese Maxey. LeBron James. Come on. When the Miami Heat were winning titles, they didn't have any size. They were a lousy rebounding team. They had a bunch of old guys. At the end of their career, they had no point guard. LeBron. Mario Chalmers drove him nuts. Maxie Edgecomb, Jalen, LeBron, Embiid. Are you kidding me? There's a shot all five of those guys are hall of Famers. So when Tom Brady chose Tampa Bay at the end, where did Tom bray? He could have gone to two or three play. He chose Tampa Bay. Offensive coach, great wide receiver, tight end, talent, easy division again. Play the white tees, play the blue tees. This is not like going to the warriors with Kevin Durant. Right? The Sixers have one title in 40 years. They can't win a second playoff series. So LeBron's not taking, you know, a dynasty in motion. That would be like going to the Knicks. As you age, work smarter, not harder. Philadelphia is stacked if LeBron goes there. I mean, Jeff Bezos always says this. When you're a public figure, the biggest waste of time is worrying what people think about you. Who cares if people say it's the easy way out? You've earned it. You've earned it. I mean, Cleveland. What about Cleveland? James Harden, Come on. Is he a winning playoff guy? What about Miami? They got no shooters. You have a good front court. You got nobody on the bench. Bob Myers, 76ers exec making his push for Philly.

[Chris Broussard]

If he was here, I'd say, I

[Colin Cowherd]

honestly believe this is your best chance to win.

[Chris Broussard]

You have to decide all the other things.

[Colin Cowherd]

That are equally important because it's his life. Right.

[Chris Broussard]

I don't. He gets.

[Colin Cowherd]

He has to play.

[Chris Broussard]

What I would just say is if

[Colin Cowherd]

it's about winning and that, let's talk

[Chris Broussard]

about this team, because you can win here.

[Colin Cowherd]

Like I get Cleveland. It's sentimental. It wraps it in a nice bow. But never forget Godfather 3 was awful. Never forget that. Godfather 1, the best. Godfather 2, consumable. Godfather 3, ridiculous. I mean, even Caddyshack 2, unwatchable sometimes. They always say you can't go home again. Well, you know what they really say? You can't go home again twice. I'm looking at that Philadelphia roster, that starting five. I don't know if you could make the money work. Here's all I'm saying. I'm not sure I need a bench, honestly. McIntyre, suit up. Show him the guns. Go out there and hit some threes. Like, I'm not even sure you need a bench. Oh, my goodness.

[Jason McIntyre]

Coming in hot today, huh? Sixers? Really? You. You think this is in play or is this his guy? Rich Paul just jitting up interest. So AD can go to the warriors, and then LeBron can go to the Warriors.

[Colin Cowherd]

Bob. Bob Myers just went on a podcast and said, no. I mean, it's. That is five hall of Fame. And by the way, Maxine is prime. Edgecomb going into it. Jalen in his prime. LeBron and Embiid are out of it, but they can still be for games, halves and moments, dominating players.

[Jason McIntyre]

So you'd make them the favorites in the east if LeBron goes to the Sixers.

[Colin Cowherd]

Absolutely.

[Jason McIntyre]

There's not a whiff of Carl Malone and Gary Payton to the Lakers with

[Colin Cowherd]

Kobe and Shaq, this is. I mean, if the spurs are going to dominate the league, it's going to take something like this to beat him.

[Jason McIntyre]

Wow.

[Colin Cowherd]

But I will say this when I start hearing this stuff. Well, LeBron would take the easy way out. He should. When you get older, don't work harder. You've worked hard your whole life. In any industry, work smarter. You could play 24 minutes. You could take a night off. You know, it may be on certain nights. It may be good for chemistry. I'm going to take the night off. Let the other guy shoot. Do you worry about if LeBron went to the Sixers? You worry about Edgecomb? Is that kid going to get looks? LeBron's always been good about sharing the ball. LeBron's always done the basketball play. But I'm saying if LeBron wants fun and happiness, and that's the quote from Rich Paul Winning is fun and happiness is not having to carry a team, but still being respected.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, who's the leader in the huddle of that team, by the way? Fourth quarter, you're down two against the Thunder. Game four of the finals. Who? Who's speaking up in the huddle? Is it Embiid? Because you know Embiid's gonna speak up. Is it Jalen Brown thinks he's the

[Colin Cowherd]

man who's got the trophies. LeBron will talk. Doesn't mean LeBron will take the final shot. LeBron will lead the way. It's very exciting. Sorry.

[Jason McIntyre]

Good to have you back, man. I see you fired up.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jason McIntyre]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Colin Cowherd]

They invented the sport and they have the best league. They have won by the way. England is getting ready to play Erling Holland. I'm going to let you hear from one of the English players. He doesn't start. He doesn't start. He played one minute for England against Mexico as a double digit scorer in the English Premier League. He played for an elite team in the English Premier League. He was a double digit scorer. He played one minute for England against Mexico. By the way, the player who led Christian Pulisic's AC Milan team in scoring, he plays for Portugal. He doesn't start for Portugal. That's going to go a long way in explaining we're better than we've ever been. Guys who are double digit scorers lead their team in scoring. Don't start for Spain or England. Like I've always said, Germany, Serbia, they got dudes in basketball. But against our dream team, you're like, yeah brother, they got one great player. You know you're looking at Dennis Schroeder. You're hoping is your one or Your two, he doesn't make our team. Okay, so here is the English player again. Double digit score for a top team. Talking about Erling Holland. Has anyone ever stopped hurling Haaland? I'm not sure they have, but we're gonna try. You're gonna have to try. I think he's such an unbelievable player. The things he does, the numbers he puts up. You're just in awe of how good he is. And the level is that we're gonna have to maybe try and stop how they play and work on, work on those things and stop how the balls go into him and how he gets his chances because he's so deadly in

[Jason McIntyre]

front of the goal.

[Colin Cowherd]

Morgan Rogers would be our first or second best player. He played one minute for England against Mexico. So every four years I hear about this discussion. It's the youth. Our best athletes don't play. England invented the sport, has the best league. They haven't won one in 60 years. Now we dominate our region, we're well funded. This is the most talented group we've ever had. But you know what this reminds me a little bit of? You know, we're used to American exceptionalism. If we want to dominate AI tech medicine, we do. But you ever seen those kids that win the spelling bee, like those 16 year old kids that win the national spelling bee. Not your local spelling bee, not at the high school, the national spelling bee. You do realize they come from really smart parents. They have been, their parents have been testing them on spelling since they were 4. And now at 17 years old, you watch them on the stage and you're like, you can't start working on the spelling bee at 14 and think by 16 you're beating that kid. Look at the names of the team that are in the quarterfinals. Spain, England, Belgium, Argentina, France. Those are the kids that win the spelling bee. They have a hundred year advantage over us on infrastructure. That kid that wins the spelling bee couple years ago didn't be like, you know, I never liked school much, but I am going to my parents, got some money. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna start memorizing words, bruh. You are a mile behind. Okay, Japan in 1992. Japan's got a lot of smart people. Japan in 1992 released a 100 year plan to win the World Cup. We're ticked off because, you know, we keep getting to the knockout stage. We may win a game, but we're not beating Belgium and Spain. Guys, incremental, okay? Look at who's in the World Cup. Well, what about Norway? They have the best score arguably in the world. What about Morocco? The best African nation by a long shot in African nations overachieved in the World Cup. Also, it should be noted Morocco is in the perfect place in the world to be good at soccer, right next to Spain and Portugal. I mean, literally, you couldn't put a team in a better spot. The weather's perfect. It's like you got a feeder system in Europe. I mean, come on. So yes, we have our best talent. This stuff is so hard. I was looking at the the United States. They were talking about a story below by Lev Acabas. Christian Pulisic's market value is 1/5 of Spain's best player, meaning if he was on the market, it's half to a third of most of your elite players. Doesn't mean Christian Pulisic's not our best player. We just have to be realistic about Christian Pulisic. Here was Bruce arena earlier this week. Christian's a good player, but he's not in the class of these elite players in the world right now. Like we've seen with the, the play of Messi and Haaland and, and Kane and others. And for whatever reason, he's dealt with a couple of injuries this season with his club team. He suffered an injury in preparation for the World Cups and it's been difficult and he had to leave the game early. But you know, it's not about one player. Japan had a 100 year plan to win the World cup in 2092. That's a realistic, incremental way to look at it. Yeah, Morgan Rogers, his value is $130 million on the open market. He played one minute versus Mexico. That's how good England is. That's, I mean, England is just stacked. J. Mack with the news.

[Chris Broussard]

No, no, no, turn on the news.

[Jason McIntyre]

This is the Herdline news. All right, we're going to get started with the NFL and our teammate here at Fox, Tom Brady. He was on the New Heights podcast and had a really, really funny line. It's almost like he's watching this show and maybe biting off some of our material. Here he is talking about how wide receivers are so drama filled.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's a hard thing. Like they're working hard to get the ball and they don't get it. So they get frustrated so easy. And I almost think like when I see these NFL off seasons, I think, I swear to God, I think now like this. And when I came into the league, you know, this guy goes, gets, you know, this Guy gets in trouble, he's arrested, this guy gets cut, this guy gets traded, this guy's unhappy receiver, you

[Jason McIntyre]

know what I mean?

[Chris Broussard]

It's like, it's, it's.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's like Real Housewives of the NFL. No, it is, you know, for a variety of reasons, the NFL wide receiver, often the team's best athlete. You get this drama, you know, if you go, really look like Randy Moss is an all time great player. But like, Edelman lasted, it seemed like forever in New England, Gronk lasted forever. They got, you know, Moss was their best talent ever. He lasted about two and a half years. And suddenly Monday night game against the Dolphins, they kind of froze him out of the game plan. And it was like he was gone. And it's like it just even, you know, and Randy is great, but it, you can. It's hard to find. That's what we always say about JSN for the Seahawks. He reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald, where Larry Fitzgerald was great. You got no drama lasted forever. JSN has that. JSN got paid a year early. Why? A lot of it was, you get no drama with JSN In Seattle. He's like, he's got a linebacker mentality, he's got an offensive lineman mentality. Show up, do the work, get paid, overachieve. And it's. And I think it's a real thing. I mean, as great as Tyreek Hill was, Kansas City knew something. They let him go. He kind of had some personal stuff happen to him in Miami, some of that stuff. They probably kind of guessed there was a little bit of ego. Kansas City was smart. They got out of it before it went sideways. But in Tyreek Hill, there was a moment in the NFL, J. Mack, like, he was unguardable, like he was changing defense around the NFL. Kansas City's like, we'll let you go. We won't even get a player back. Just a bunch of draft picks. And it was like, like it's Seattle moves off DK Metcalf, you're like, DK Metcalf is exceptional. Like, even teams that have star receivers like Philadelphia, A.J. brown, like, before it gets too bad, you just. It's a situation where if you have a great left tackle, you never let him go. If you have a great quarterback, you don't let him go. If you have, like, Kelsey Kelsey's playing forever. But there is something about the wide receiver position that a lot of teams are like, listen, we squeezed a lot of the juice, right? Like, we're not going to squeeze every last Ounce of juice. Let's move on. It's a reality of the possession, and I don't. I don't know why.

[Chris Broussard]

So.

[Jason McIntyre]

So this offseason, we had Puka Nukua rehab. Rasheed Rice spent how many days, 30 days in jail. A.J. brown traded. I don't even know what the latest is with Stefan Diggs.

[Colin Cowherd]

Every year off season, this is what you see at that position for whatever the reason.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, let's move to college football. Colin. All right, so you and I love a good list, and we're going to have some fun with this, but I do need to be upfront. This list is insane. Okay, the ESPN put out the list of the greatest college football coaches entering this season. Number one is Kurt Signetti. Number one. He had a great season, but, Colin, it's one season, okay? He got bounced in the playoff the year before in round one. How is he the best college football coach? That's insane to me. Kirby Smarts, 2, Ryan Day, 3, Marcus Freeman, 4. Dan Lanning, 5. Dan Lanning, 5. I don't know. I'm losing my mind here early in the show. First of all, totally disagree.

[Colin Cowherd]

There's a lot of good guys that aren't on this list. Like, I think Kurt Signetti is really good, and the fact that he won a natty at Indiana is amazing. The fact they went 16 and oh and won all their close games. Here's where I would push back, but

[Jason McIntyre]

would you put him first?

[Colin Cowherd]

Hold on. No, I don't think I would, but I. But I put Marcus Freeman, I think, is the best coach right now in college football.

[Jason McIntyre]

Agreed.

[Colin Cowherd]

Marcus Freeman's number one. And then I think Kaylin DeBoer, by the way, is exceptional. I just don't think Alabama has the money right now that Indiana and Ohio State do. Again, I think Dabo Swinney's good. He just won't put his arms around, you know, the transfer portal. Here's where I just ran into an Indiana person the other day, and I said, like, I think Signetti is great, but I'm like, you do realize you guys trailed in the fourth quarter multiple times. You won like five games, including Iowa, late because you had the best quarterback in the country, the number one pick. It's really remarkable to me how the media in college football has given Signetti all the flowers. Guys, do you understand how good Fernando Mendoza was as a college quarterback? Go to the Miami tape. The kid was incredible on third and fourth down. Go to the Penn State. I watched the entire second half of the Penn State Game. The Hoosiers defense was a sieve to a backup quarterback for the Nittany Lions. Mendoza was unbelievable on the road. You don't see college quarterbacks do that on the road. So I'm not saying Signetti is not an A coach. He's exceptional. I am not denying that. But I think it's almost like the Brady Belichick thing for years. Well, Tom's a system quarterback. In Belichick we trust. I don't care what level of football you're talking about. You know, I don't care what level it is. If you have a star quarterback, they take you to another level. Andy Reid's been great forever. Mahomes gets him trophies. So I just think that it's the dynamic you'd think Signetti is 80% of it. Mendoza's 20. I think it's much closer to 50. 50.

[Jason McIntyre]

And again, I'm not taking anything away from Signetti. He'd be top five on the list. I just think he's probably closer to five than one. I mean, Dan Lanning has accomplished a lot more over the last five years than Signetti. Signetti's had an unbelievable rise and he went undefeated. They're not going undefeated this year. We know that. I think Sark is a little undervalued. I mean Mario Cristobal, what he's done at multiple stops. This list is pretty stacked with college football coaches.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, there's a lot of good coaches out there.

[Jason McIntyre]

Ryan Day is excellent. Almost undervalued at 3. Anyways, let's wrap up Colin with a World cup game today. Quarterfinal. Number one, France versus Morocco. There is some drama swirling around this match. Fans are outraged that all of the referees, the entire crew is Argentinians. And obviously everybody thinks, oh, everybody, they're rooting for Argentina when France has been a machine. Now these two teams, France and Morocco. Colin. They met in the 2022 World cup semifinal and it was a really good match. France won two. Nothing without second goal was late.

[Colin Cowherd]

Morocco's really good. Morocco's just, I would argue athletically Morocco's the second best team I've seen to France just in terms of sports speed. Twitchy. I think Morocco is really good.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, their, their best like attacking forward has been ruled out. Saari, I think he had three goals in the tournament. I mean they, they were fine without him against Canada. This is just a tall order for France to, to have to face the Morocco's defense after facing Paraguay's defense. I'm only under two and a half.

[Colin Cowherd]

If you care Yeah, I think France is the best team, but it's. I mean, I just think it's. You know, everybody always talks about the underdog. I, I was thinking about this this morning. If, if, if the favorites win, here's going to be the final.

[Jason McIntyre]

Gosh, that's ridiculous.

[Colin Cowherd]

Hold on. No, hold on. If the favorites win, it will be England against Argentina and France against Spain.

[Chris Broussard]

That's.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, that's about Duke against Arizona and Carolina against Yukon. Like, I, I know you guys all want underdogs. I do not want Virginia Commonwealth in my final four.

[Jason McIntyre]

So that, that's the one question. Do you know the one underdog here would be Norway? Would you want them to break through?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. What Norway's. Again, Norway has maybe the best score in the world. If we had Norway, we would be a different team. That he is a. Literally Holland.

[Chris Broussard]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Erling Holland is just different. I saw a story, it was yesterday or the day before when Brady was talking about not having Gronk for a brief time. He's like, you didn't understand how great Gronk was. He goes, we just. I had Gronk for, you know, a decade. We won every third down. He was always open. And then you don't have Gronk and you're like, man, third down's hard. Like Erling Holland. Like, you, when you do a corner kick, you can spot him. You can just look up and go there. When we do corner kicks. I've said this, Think about this. Erling Holland, in of the last four years, has led the world's best league in scoring three of the last four years. He is the LeBron. He is the dominant player in the best league. So I mean that. I don't Norway, as long as he play, you know, we can go watch whatever we want. In terms, like, we compare this to March Madness a little bit. If you have the best player easily. I can remember covering college basketball when UNLV had Tark and there was a big national TV game and one of the highest ranked teams was Navy. Why would Navy have a good basketball team? They had David Robinson and it was a massive CBS game. I was there, Pat o' Brien was there. And I remember looking up and thinking, Navy. Navy is the biggest college basketball game. Norway has Erling Haaland. It changes everything, changes the calculus of the country soccer program.

[Jason McIntyre]

I think Mbappe is taking note of all your love for Holland and being like, guys, guys, it's me, Mbappe. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna show you what I got because remember, he's not chopped liver. He is, I would say, Mbappe slightly over Holland right now as the best

[Colin Cowherd]

player in the world.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's just me though.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, Jim. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. An NFL owner doesn't have to necessarily do what the fans say he should do, but he should listen, right? They are consumers. They pack your stadium, they tailgate, they buy your merch. Really interesting survey came out in Pittsburgh that's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9:00am Pacific. All right, you know what deserves more attention? The assists. Everybody talks about the goal.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Colin Cowherd]

before us, which we greatly appreciate and they've been so much fun to watch. They're all in on the World Cup. You guys have done a great job. By the way, the show is funny, you know. You know what I always say about the World Cup. It's not necessarily family. It doesn't live with you like the NFL, NBA every day. It's like the cousins you you meet at the lake for a month every four years. It is absolutely a blast. You don't see them very often, but when they're there, you water ski every day, you barbecue every day and the memories are fantastic. So you guys have done a great job. I want to talk.

[Chris Broussard]

Thank you.

[Colin Cowherd]

I made this argument about 40 minutes ago. I want to put the starting five up if LeBron would go to Philadelphia. And I said, when you age, Chris, you don't have to play from the black tees. You can play from the blue tees. You can use a cart. You don't have to walk the course. That's five hall of Famers potentially. Maxey. If you go to the Miami Heat team, Chris, Mario Chalmers or Tyrese Maxey. Joel Anthony at center, Joel Embiid. That team didn't have in Miami a VJ Edgecomb who's going to end up being an all NBA player in my opinion, over the next five or six years. Brown and D. Wade are both going to be hall of Famers. LeBron's not as good as he was. That is the best starting lineup LeBron's ever played for, potentially. Am I out of my mind if he chose Philadelphia?

[Chris Broussard]

Well, you said the right word, potentially. And look, that looks fantastic. I'm totally with you on that. Except I put a giant question mark or maybe even an X over Joel Embiid. I cannot trust Joel Embiid. I'm sorry. Like, he's great. I would love him to stay healthy and win a championship. He's one of the most talented centers we've ever seen, but there's no way I'm counting on him being healthy. I don't know how many 30 some odd games he's gonna play next year playoffs. He'll be here for a game, out for a game. And it's hard, Colin, when you have a great player in and out of the lineup. If he was just a role player, it'd be fine. But when you have a great player in and out of the lineup, you play differently. So if he's there, we're playing totally different. If he's not, we're playing totally different. So I think you can win to a certain degree like that, but I don't think you can win the championship when you're kind of this, you know, you have these two types of teams at the same time playing because one guy's in and out. I'll also say this. These four perimeter players take out Embiid, Maxey. It's his team, right? He's great. He's a young guy. He's a budding superstar.

[Colin Cowherd]

Love him.

[Chris Broussard]

Edge. Combat. Young kid on a rookie scale. Edge. Coleman is trying to prove he's a superstar like he wants to. He's in that young guy that wants to show you how good he is. So he gets a max contract when time is up. Jaylen Brown, huge Chip on his shoulder. He doesn't want to go to Philly and be a role player. He wants to go there and be awesome and prove Boston and everybody else wrong. And LeBron showed last year in LA that he could play whatever role you need him to, but he is not going to be a fourth option or whatever. I just think all four of those guys, particularly the first three without LeBron, they have agendas that now you throw a LeBron in there, a fourth great perimeter player and like, who's going to average. Who going to be happy, average of 15 there, you know. So I just think that it is a great team on paper. And if Embiid was guaranteed to be healthier, you know, a healthy player, I would say LeBron should go there, but he's not going to be healthy, unfortunately. And then those other four, the other three going to have personal agendas.

[Colin Cowherd]

There are people that have said this for several years that Brad Stevens is among the smartest people in the league. I don't suddenly think he became an idiot. Is there a chance that with the draft picks and Paul George and another lever or move, I still contend Boston's going to be really good? Or am I on an island here that Brad made a massive mistake and they're going to circle the drain?

[Chris Broussard]

They're going to be good. They will win 50 ish games again next year.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's what I think.

[Chris Broussard]

Yeah. Because remember, just let's say Paul George doesn't play a game. All you're doing is sticking in Jason Tatum where Jaylen Brown used to be. And then you added Mitchell Robinson. So they're going to be a fine regular season team. And if George can play, then he just adds to that. He's a very good role player at this point. But I don't think they could win the East. You know, barring major injuries, I don't think they beat New York. I don't think. I think they got worse by getting rid of Jaylen Brown. And look, Brad Stevens, like a lot of teams now, he's analytics. And that front office is analytics. The analytics have never loved Jaylen Brown. And that's where I think analytics are just wrong. I think he's a great player. I'd love to have him, but I think that's what this decision was about. The analytics tell us he's not that good, not as good as his accolades are. So we'll be fine without him. And we'll see.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, Chris Broussard, good seeing you, buddy. As always. Have a great, great Thursday.

[Chris Broussard]

All Right, Kyler.

[Colin Cowherd]

See, they've done a great job on that show. Chris and Nick and Kevin, really fun to watch their World cup coverage. Yeah, I mean, it's the Philadelphia roster could be a circus. I heard from somebody who is friends with the Sixers general manager, somebody I've known for a long time, certain knows his basketball, he's in the basketball industry. And he said, you know, they know it's going to be a wild ride. But Philadelphia kind of felt like, listen, if we can get off, the Embiid contract's not great, the Paul George contract's not great, the Jaylen Brown contract, analytically is not great, but at least he's healthy. We're going to make the move. But they know in Philadelphia, there's one basketball. There's a lot of guys that want to shoot. There's a lot of guys that want to shoot. So. But I think it's going to be a wildly entertaining circus. And I think sometimes you go to the grocery store and you're like, yeah, that's just too good to pass up. I think Philadelphia went, we don't know if we have enough basketballs for this team with Edgecomb and Embiid and Max, he's an amazing player and Jalen Brown's great. And now they want, now they want LeBron James. It's like, I don't know how it's going to work. But you know what? Kd, Steph, Clay, it worked. I mean, I mean, Steph and Clay were the Splash brothers. They brought in another guy that needs 15, 18 shots. It worked great. They dominated the league. So, I mean, a lot of times in the NBA we can talk analytics. I got more talent than you do. I got more dudes than you do. The official language of football is trash talk, late night group chats, memes and unbelievable highlight clips. That's why Boost Mobile brings you our new global connection action plan. The first plan ever made for WhatsApp.

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