The Herd - HOUR 1 - Sam Darnold is underappreciated, West Coast cool comes to the B1G, Russ plays himself out of greatness

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Hour 1 — September 26, 2025

Main Themes:

• The underappreciation of Sam Darnold and the importance of fit in NFL quarterback success
• The arrival of "West Coast cool" in the Big Ten: the impact of Pac-12 teams joining
• Russell Wilson's fall from grace and debate over his Hall of Fame candidacy

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Sam Darnold: The NFL’s Most Underappreciated Winner

Timestamps: 02:00–13:15

Discussion Highlights

• Host Colin Cowherd reflects on Sam Darnold’s career arc, emphasizing how much organizational context matters for quarterback success.

  • Darnold’s journey: USC → Jets → Panthers (asked to save franchises) → Vikings (success) → Seattle (proving elite).
  • “There’s no greater example of where you land matters than Sam Darnold.” (03:39, Colin)
  • Darnold leads the NFL in big plays and is tied for most wins and game-winning drives over the past two years, sharing stats with Mahomes.

• Contrasting environments.

  • Darnold’s improvement: surrounded by better players and coaches, he excels. Jets and Panthers remain mediocre post-Darnold.
  • “Sometimes winners in life can’t elevate every loser … Nobody can help the Jets and the Panthers.” (04:35, Colin)

• Comparing Darnold to Dak Prescott:

  • Darnold: Dak’s intangibles plus better athletic traits—“Dak with better tangibles… Darnold’s got the bigger arm.” (06:12, Colin)
  • Their shared traits: toughness, leadership, teammate respect.

• Seattle’s young offensive roster means Darnold’s wins are even more impressive:

  • “This is a young team … He just plopped into Seattle and it’s already working. That is a much harder win than you think.” (08:19, Colin)

• Seattle Head Coach Mike Macdonald on Darnold:

  • “Sam’s playing out of his mind right now. … He’s just so determined for us to be a great team and a great offense.” (09:10, Macdonald audio)

Notable Quote

• “Four straight seasons with better coaching… his completion percentage keeps going up. When you’ve surrounded him with winners and quality people and quality teammates, Sam wins a lot.” (06:57, Colin)

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Kyler Murray: Talent Without Unity

Timestamps: 09:40–15:50

Discussion Highlights

• Colin’s evolving skepticism of Kyler Murray, despite defending his talent.

  • Murray’s lack of leadership/relatability: “He’s not terribly verbal. I feel like sometimes he feels detached. I don’t feel like he’s obsessed with football…” (10:29, Colin)
  • Points to Murray’s poor record in close games: “Why is Kyler Murray… so bad in close games? 19-32-1 in one-score games.” (11:42, Colin)

• The ‘unifier’ trait:

  • Citing examples like Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, and Dak as players who bring teammates with them in crunch time.
  • “When fit hits the shan in life, people aren’t looking for talent. They’re looking for guidance.” (12:22, Colin)

• Kyler’s regression as a runner:

  • J. Mac: “Why isn’t Kyler Murray running anymore?... basically had five carries, but one of them was 29 yards.” (13:46, J. Mac)

• Body language & mindset matter:

  • Colin relays a conversation with an NFL player: “He doesn’t like to get hit. He’s a small guy and he doesn’t like to get hit…” (14:00, Colin)
  • Murray’s postgame comments reinforce lack of urgency and leadership:
    • “It wasn’t clicking… pretty much getting physically dominated the whole first half. … We gotta show up, be ready to go…” (12:53, Kyler)

• Comparison to Baker Mayfield:

  • Baker fights through adversity, while Kyler “just shuts it down.”
  • “There’s something about the ability to unify and lead the way that I always feel like he lacks.” (12:56, Colin)

Notable Quotes

• “Kyler’s got more talent than Baker…I really do. But Baker is fighting to the last play. Kyler’s 8–36–1 when he gets behind.” (12:47, Colin)

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News Roundup with J. Mac

Timestamps: 25:28–32:42

Eagles vs. Buccaneers Preview

• A.J. Brown wants Philly’s offense to be more aggressive:
  • “Let’s not continue to keep trying to get our head on the wall… Let’s mix it up and do what we need to do.” (25:50, A.J. Brown audio)
• Colin’s analysis: Philly a tough matchup due to elite interior defense.
• Tampa’s defense scheming specifically to stop the Eagles’ signature “tush push” play (big D-lineman activation noted).

49ers QB Situation & Matchup Notes

• Injury questions for both Brock Purdy and Mac Jones leave Niners’ prospects in flux.
• Colin: “I never know who’s playing [for San Francisco]. I like to go into bets with answers, not questions.” (29:13, Colin)

Cowboys vs. Packers, and WR Comparisons

• Dak versus Micah Parsons narrative fun, but Dak emphasizes the team:
  • “He’s got five guys up front plus tight ends and running backs that he’s got to get through. So then we’ll worry about if he can get to me.” (30:34, Dak)
• J. Mac and Colin debate CeeDee Lamb vs. George Pickens:
  • “When you put him on the field with CeeDee Lamb, he’s not close to CeeDee Lamb. Like, that tells you. CeeDee, on every pass play, separates from good corners. Pickens doesn’t.” (31:43, Colin)

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West Coast Teams Bring “Cool” and Change to the Big Ten

Timestamps: 21:35–25:28

Discussion Highlights

• The arrival of Oregon, USC, Washington, and UCLA in the Big Ten shakes up the conference narrative.

  • Old stereotype: “PAC-12 teams are soft…can’t handle the Big Ten’s physicality.”
  • This weekend seen as a regional, territorial “statement” with significant games (Oregon at Penn State, USC’s stretch, Ohio State at Washington).
  • “I think the Big Ten was top heavy and at times plodding…West coast teams are more creative, more inventive.” (22:35, Colin)

• Impact on West Coast programs:

  • Big Ten forces teams like USC, Oregon to bulk up front, improve physicality.
  • “In a weird way, joining the Big Ten has made USC a better program. They’re now a run-first program.” (23:45, Colin)
  • Washington’s coach Jed Fish highlights national recruiting advantages and exposure:
    • “So many different areas that we’ll be able to attack … We were in the national championship game two years ago, so people know who Washington is…” (24:59, Jed Fish audio)

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Mahomes, the Super Bowl Bubble, and KC’s Offensive Struggles

Timestamps: 32:47–37:58

Discussion Highlights

• Colin warns Mahomes and KC are hitting their ceiling considering depleted offensive weapons.

  • “We have found officially the limit on how much even a superstar, legendary quarterback can do.” (32:47, Colin)
  • Mahomes’ passer rating in last 22 games now lower than recently benched Russell Wilson.
  • Causes: Missed draft picks, aging Travis Kelce, cap squeeze after QB contract, weird injuries/suspensions.

• Changing landscape due to QB contracts.

  • AFC: Paid QBs = worse rosters, more holes (KC, Buffalo, Baltimore, etc).
  • NFC: Better teams with young or cheaper QBs (Baker Mayfield, Darnold, Jalen Hurts).

Notable Quote

• “When you pay the quarterback … you just get more good players [elsewhere with team-friendly deals].” (36:33, Colin)

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The Russell Wilson Hall of Fame Debate

Timestamps: 43:04–53:23

Discussion Highlights

• Wilson now benched—once universally praised, now heavily criticized.

  • Recent week: Tony Gonzalez and Richard Sherman questioned his legacy—“If there’s ever been a guy who’s played himself out of the Hall of Fame … it’s Russell Wilson.” (45:13, Tony Gonzalez via Colin)
  • Colin explores why Russ became disliked: his perceived inauthenticity, desire for superstar status, lack of close relationships with teammates (e.g., no players at his wedding).

• Seattle’s success was a collective, not individual, effort:

  • “That great Seattle team was a collective … Marshawn Lynch, Pete Carroll, the Legion of Boom, the 12th Man … Russell was a star, but his teammates felt like he wanted superstar treatment.” (47:22, Colin)

• Hall of Fame criteria:

  • “If you have a career that ends poorly … you had to be unbelievable in the meat of it.” (50:00, Colin)
  • Comparison: Aaron Rodgers carried Green Bay through lean years; Russell never had to carry a team in his prime—he always had an All-Star roster around him.

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Other Noteworthy Quotes & Moments

• “Aaron [Rodgers] is a little bit more of a bailer than a baller. … He’s not a foxhole guy.” (15:51, Colin on QBs who struggle from behind)
• On Darnold: “My comp for him when he came out was … Andrew Luck. … Look at the numbers, it’s Andrew Luck these last two years.” (15:02, Colin)

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Tone & Style

• Colin’s tone is conversational, confident, occasionally self-deprecating—directly addressing both his long-time listeners and critics.
• Frequent use of “I don’t know” and “I really do think…” to present strong opinions with room for nuance.
• Banter with co-host J. Mac stays sharp, energetic, and focused on evidence (“stats matter”, “body language counts”).

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Key Segment Timestamps

• [02:00] – Sam Darnold’s underappreciated career and talent
• [09:40] – Kyler Murray’s close game struggles and leadership questions
• [21:35] – West Coast teams transform the Big Ten
• [25:28] – NFL News Roundup (Eagles/Bucs, Niners, Cowboys/Packers)
• [32:47] – Mahomes/KC’s offensive plateau and “Super Bowl bubble”
• [43:04] – Russell Wilson's Hall of Fame debate and legacy

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Summary Takeaways

• Fit and environment outweigh raw talent in NFL QB success—Sam Darnold’s emergence as a reliable winner illustrates the crucial role of coaching, roster, and organizational stability.
• Quarterbacks must unify and lead, not just excel athletically—Kyler Murray’s limitations as a “detached” leader contrast with resilient, unifying QBs like Baker Mayfield and Mahomes.
• Big Ten’s “West Coast infusion” is transforming conference football—teams like USC, Oregon forced to grow more physical, while Big Ten benefits from creativity and national reach.
• Russell Wilson illustrates how perception and context can shape a legacy—his run in Seattle not just about his talent, but a sum of rare circumstances. Hall of Fame debates hinge on whether stars “carry” teams.
• Mahomes and elite paid QBs expose NFL roster building trade-offs—the more resources spent on an MVP, the less margin there is elsewhere, making previously “invincible” teams look mortal.

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You’ll walk away with a sharper understanding of how context shapes NFL stars, why leadership style matters more than stat lines, and how college realignment is shaking up the conference hierarchy. The hour is packed with strong opinions, stats, and behind-the-scenes color that will get you ready for the weekend’s biggest games.

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After that performance last night, making your super bowl bubble pick look kind of sharp, huh?

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Kind of did so. I mean, there's no greater example of where you land matters than Sam Darnold. Usc, Jets, Carolina, especially Jets. In Carolina, they asked him at a very young age, carry the franchise the last two stops. Good coaches, good roster. Suddenly he's elite. And oh yeah, he's elite. Last two years, he's tied for the most wins in the league by a quarterback. He's tied for the most game winning drives with Patrick Mahome. And he leads the NFL in big plays. And this is the second youngest offensive roster. So he's doing it with kids. Rookie tight end, jsn, the rookie from Colorado State, Walker, still young, he's doing it with kids. So people say, well, at the end of last season, he got blown out. I've seen Mahomes get blown out in two Super Bowls. I love Lamar Jackson. I've seen him freeze in the headlights multiple games in the playoffs. If you look at what have the jets and the Panthers done since Sam Darnold left, they remain pathetic. Sometimes winners in life can't elevate every loser. High school, he was a winner. Usc, Rose bowl, he was a winner. Vikings, he's a winner. Seattle, he's a winner. Nobody can help the jets and the Panthers. So like, not everybody can elevate. Elevate everything. Four straight seasons with better coaching. Oh, his completion percentage keeps going up. Leads the NFL in big plays. When he went to New York, he was ridiculously young. He was 21 years old and he wasn't ready for New York. In New York, the Jets aren't ready for any quarterback. So I look at Sam and I look at this young roster and I think it's amazing. We know Green Bay is a really young roster, but Jordan Love's been in the building for so long, he's grown with these guys. So Jordan loves young. They the roster's young, but like he's been in the mix for years. Darnold keeps bouncing around the teams. Everywhere he goes. It works. Minnesota, with a veteran left tackle and a veteran star receiver. It worked. Now he goes to Seattle. The opposite. Their kids second youngest offense in the league, the Green Bay, and it clicks. JSN Arroyo. It shows you the work. It shows you the leadership. You know, I was thinking about this last night, watching him. I actually think Darnold has great intangibles. And I've always said this about Dak Prescott. I don't love the arm of Dak. I don't think he throws the prettiest ball. I think Sam Darnold is Dak with better tangibles. Both have great intangibles. They're loved by teammates. One of the guys, alpha without the ego. They're both the kind of the same guy. Dak and Darnold. Darnold's got the bigger arm. Darnold's the better athlete. Both tough. So I don't know. I just look at Sam Darnold and high school, USC and Rose Bowls, Seattle, Minnesota. When you've surrounded him with winners and quality people and quality teammates. Sam wins a lot. Tied for the league lead in wins. And I think it's impressive that he's doing it with Seattle because, you know, Minnesota had some older star players. You could go to a safety, a left tackle, a star receiver. There was older star players are running back. This is a young team. He just plopped into Seattle and it's already working. That is a much harder win than you think. Division rival, short week, young team on the road. Arizona's always fight. Arizona's got a lot of good offensive players. So here was Mike McDonald, the young head coach on Sam Darnold, the win last night. Sam's playing out of his mind right now. And you see him, he's just like, just like such a cool customer, but he's a guy on a mission. He's just so determined for us to be a great team and a great offense. And he's doing a great job leading us. He certainly is. And I, and I said yesterday, I put the Seahawks in the super bowl bubble. The Athletic came out with this survey this week judging the best front offices in the NFL. And it was all the teams that draft and develop. Well, you can argue that John Snyder is as good a personnel guy as the NFL has the gm. I mean, all I see with Seattle is they just don't miss. They don't miss on a lot of Draft picks. And now they've. They've got this young defensive coach, kind of their version of Jesse Minter. And Darnold's a playmaker when you put them around players and smart coaches. Sam Darnolds, he's elite. So I was watching Kyler Murray last night. Now, I have defended Kyler Murray from his first day in the league. I defended him when the owner called him out for lack of study habits. I think he's an insane talent. But I do think privately watching last night, if you ask the owner and the GM and the head coach and they could wiggle out of the contract and move on, I think they would. He's not terribly verbal. I feel like sometimes he feels detached. I don't feel like he's obsessed with football, but I don't know him well enough to have strong opinions. I will defend his talent forever, but I. When I see Mahomes barking at his teammates on the sideline, or Lamar Jackson is the soul of the offense, or Stafford and McVeigh, they're totally in sync. And I always watch Kyler Murray and I'm like, he's the fifth longest tenured quarterback in the league. Fifth. Who's he close to? Who's he connected to? So I'm watching last night and again, I've defended him the entire time and he has a market. But there is something that I think matters, and this is where I think being one of the guys, a lot of times I'll watch politicians and I'll think to myself, oh, I'd like to have a beer with that guy. And I always think that's the best kind of politician. They're smart, they're passionate, they have some courage, some fortitude, but there's like a relatability thing. Baker Mayfield is great in close games. Brady, even though he was older in New England, great in close games. Darnold starting to win these close games. Dax actually through the years, been pretty good in close games. Why is Kyler Murray as great as he is? Why is he so bad in close games? 1932 and one in one score games. Every stat in the fourth quarter goes down. And I just don't know if he's a unifier. He always feels detached. He's not. He's not a lead us over the hill. When games get close, when fit hits the shan in life, people aren't looking for talent. They're looking for guidance. And I think, I think the body language, the head shaking again, I will defend him and have defended him. Talent, no question. He's the best slider in the league. He's got a beautiful ball. He. The baseball background has helped him in football, but Baker is so great this year in close games because Baker's like, guys get on my back, I'm leading the way. You can see it with his body language. And then I watch Kyler Murray, it's just like he's just really talented. I don't know. I don't feel like that. He's like a unifier in this league. I mean, that game last night, they all, didn't it feel like they all end like this. This. How many games this year have like ended on the final drive? Seattle dominates the game, punishing them and has to need to walk off to win. That's the league. It's about unity and connectability and how close you are and who's going to lead us over the hill and that's that. Darnold walks into a brand new club with a bunch of kids and he feels totally connected to JSN and Arroyo and Walker and the coaching staff. And Kyler's just really talented. I mean, his career record when trailing by 10 points is 8 and 36 and 1. Like, like if he's not playing well, I feel like he just shuts it down. I never feel that with Baker. Baker's a great come from behind quarterback. I think Kyler's got more talent than Baker, I really do. But Baker is fighting to the last play. Kyler's 8, 36 and 1 when he gets behind. And I just. There's something about the ability to unify and lead the way that I always feel like he lacks. And here he was after the loss. It wasn't clicking. Was not clicking, you know, pretty much getting physically dominated whole first half. We just gotta make more plays. We gotta show up, be ready to go, you know what I mean? It's like we're just loading, you know what I mean? And it's taking too long. You know, obviously the resilience of the team is you love to see it and you feel like give yourself a chance to win the game at the end, but it's just too late. You know, is there a team in the NFL that always has good players, is in a ton of close games and just doesn't win a lot of them more than Arizona? And I think sometimes you got to say, well, who's the quarterback? Who's the guy taking the snaps late? It's not a lack of talent. So J. Mac, you have been bailing on Kyler Murray for A long time. And there's been a lot of reports that he's not obsessed about football. And whatever I do, I think he is. I don't know. He's certainly good. But it was. That was one of those games where. I don't know, it just. The body language, the mannerism. Sometimes I just kind of feel like when he trails, he bails. And I think he can't do that as a quarterback. That's not a great moniker to slap.

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On him, but that sounds accurate. Another part of the handicap yesterday. Remember, I really like Seattle.

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I know.

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Is that Kyler just can't do anything against Seattle. I think he's lost like six or seven in a row. Some ridiculous number. He just can't generate offense now. It's obviously not all on him. The offensive line was bad. I think he got sacked six times. But I just need to ask you, Colin. When Josh Allen runs Buffalo, super dangerous. When Lamar Jackson runs, man, Baltimore's tough. Why isn't Kyler Murray running anymore? He basically had five carries, but one of them was 29 yards. So the rest of the time it's like scrambles. I don't get it.

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I remember I had somebody on our show his rookie year because I've been a fan since day one. I think he's a huge talent.

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Obviously.

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Yeah. And it was that defensive lineman in the NFL that had sacked him, and it was at the end of his first year. And he goes, he said, man, he didn't say it on the air. He said it off. There's a good player still in the league. He said he doesn't like to get hit. He's a small guy and he doesn't like to get hit. He goes, I've. I've hit a lot of quarterbacks. He doesn't like it. He does not like to get. And I think some of it is self preservation. He's a smaller athlete. I mean, it's just, listen, Josh Allen and Cam Newton and Big Ben and Philip Rivers. Bigger, thicker guys can take hits. Smaller guys, tua can't take the beating. By the way, Sam Darnold, my comp for him when he came out was, actually, I got a lot of crap for this was Andrew Locke. I said, I don't think he's as good as Andrew Locke. But I said, I think there's some Andrew Lock last two years. Look at the numbers. It's Andrew Luck. So my comp for him. But Andrew Luck, I thought was a greater transformational talent who could overcome and maybe more than any quarterback in 15 years, Andrew Luck could overcome bad stuff. Sam came into the league at 21. He wasn't as good on the whiteboard. It took him a while to develop, but he is becoming. I thought he was, you know, I hate to say a poor man's Andrew Luck, but I thought there was a lot of qualities where he could be reckless. He was tough. He was physical. He never took blame or he always took blame. He never pointed fingers. But I think Sam's got the Dak Prescott intangibles, but he's a really, really good athlete with a big arm.

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Yes. Sam scrambling is effective for Seattle.

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Right.

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He's great with his legs. And I get it.

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Kyler doesn't want to run.

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You said he's one of the best sliders in the league. Kylan, listen, I want to do whatever's best for my team to help us win. That should be the vibe. I don't see him as like a big energy rah rah guy, which is fine. Not everybody is. But when you, Patrick Mahomes is screwing up, he's on the sideline firing everybody up. I don't see that.

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Yeah, I know. I can see how much Lamar cares. Lamar gets so mad at himself and he's so hard on himself, and I can see my homes, how much they care and I get. I just don't feel that and whatever that is and how much that matters. I mean, I do look at stats a lot. Why is Kyler so bad when trailing by 10? I always said this about Aaron Rodgers in the body language. Why does Aaron Rodgers have so few come from behind wins? It's, like, shocking. Why? I always said Aaron is a little bit more of a Baylor than a baller. He's not a foxhole guy. I feel. No, I. Oh. And I've always felt that with Kyler. He's not a foxhole guy. He's just really gifted. Aaron's really gifted. There are guys, and I think Baker Mayfield's a great example. That dude plays hard. Baker plays with a chip on his shoulder. Down 27 with a minute 30 left, he gives up no plays. And you get in his body language, he gets mad at himself. I think that stuff does matter. Blazing five and 45 minutes. I like it. 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Bring the Boom X Boom all right, this is going to be an insane college football weekend and I'm reading the headlines this morning. Oregon going to Penn State. Can they win? Stand the whiteout against The Nittany Lions, USC's next three games. The key for Lincoln, Riley and their playoff hopes, Ohio State Washington gonna Huskies slow down the Buckeyes. All you heard when PAC 12 teams 4 joined the Big 10 was they are soft. They will not be able to handle the physicality of the Big Ten. The weather out here is different. Oh, Oregon, first year in the conference, won the conference. So this weekend it's not just a good game, it's a regional statement. It's a territory battle. The Ryder cup is not the only geographical Tay Tate this weekend, and I think it's great. I think the Big Ten needed some flash. West coast teams are more creative, they have better quarterbacks, they're more inventive, they're generally a little more finesse. But I think the Big Ten was top heavy and at times plodding. I do think the Pac12 Oregon needed to get bigger up front. USC's felt like a finesse team for too many years. So I think, and you know, Washington, whenever they have a good coach, is a really good team. So I think Buckeye fans will have their first vanilla cold brew this weekend in Seattle. And I think it's perfect. And I think USC fans are going to say, where's the champagne? No, you don't have any. That's the name of the town and it's all good. I like the mesh here. I always thought the Big Ten was top heavy and then it got slow, plodding and needed some speed, some creativity. And I think the big, the Big Ten needed these teams. It feels broader, it feels more clever, more creative. And I think, frankly, USC last year decided we got to get bigger up front and they did need that. And now they are. So in a weird way, joining the Big Ten has made USC a better program. They're now a run first program. They're not a pass first team. And Jed Fish, the Huskies coach, they host the Buckeye, said this weekend joining the Big Ten has been really good for west coast teams. We could sell that. We're going to be playing on the east coast, we're going to be playing in the west coast, we're going to be playing in the Midwest. You know, there's so many different areas that we'll be able to attack that people can watch them on tv. We can nationally recruit. We were in the national championship game two years ago, so people know who Washington is. They played Michigan on the big stage. We got to find a way to get back there to continue to re emphasize the type of program that we are. And they're really, they were different sensibilities. I mean, Oregon's got 316 uniforms, nine helmets, and Penn State's got exactly one. But it's not like the west coast didn't have, you know, tradition. USC's uniforms, forget altering those. When it was suggested drop the Notre Dame game, everybody freaked out. So. But the. But the Big Ten, let's be honest about it, it's not the most creative. The quarterback play is kind of average for years. It's very top heavy. It needed an infusion of creative. It needed some west coast cool. And I think it's helped the conference. And I think when you play in the Big Ten, you got to be bigger up front. And it is forced Oregon and USC to just recruit bigger players who wear well in November. So I think it's really been an amazing mesh, in my opinion. Here's J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.

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This is the Herd line news. All right, Colin, let's go to The Philadelphia Eagles 3 0, big, big showdown with the 30 Tampa Bay Bucks in Tampa Sunday at 1 on Fox. Outstanding game. Colin A.J. brown talked about that comeback in the second half and wants to keep the Eagles aggressive heading into Tampa.

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The goal is to win the game and obviously we want to do that first. But like I was just saying, like, I think it just kind of took too long for us as an offense to adjust and be more of a. Be more aggressive, you know, when one thing's not working. I was just saying, like, let's not continue to keep trying to get our head on the wall and see if it's going to work. Let's. Let's mix it up and do what we need to do. I pulled this game out of my blazing five. This, this was a. I do think Philadelphia is the. But I will say go down to steamy Tampa Baker. I don't know. I think Philadelphia is the better team. But Todd Bowles against Jalen Hurts has been interesting. I pulled. This was the last pick that I pulled out and I inserted another pick.

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In there. Cowherd, huh? Bailing on the Eagles. Okay, so a couple notes. It's, you know, remember how one of my big takes is. I like what the patriots did for 20 years. It constantly revolving. Colin, as a team, right? They would be tight end heavy. They would go slot receiver, running back, defense. They won a lot of different ways. So this Eagles offense, everybody thinks of it as, oh, it's just tush push and Saquon. They just showed you against the Rams. Hey, we can throw the ball if we need to.

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Yeah.

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But what's underreported is this defense, Colin. It's unbelievable. They can win now with defense. The run game hurts. And Brown, Devonta Smith, they've got a great tight end. And Goddard where's the weakness on this team? Honestly, I'm just straight up, what is the Eagles?

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What's interesting is there Philadelphia is just a bad matchup for a lot of teams because they're so good defensively. On the defensive line, interior between Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter. Rams, as we discovered, aren't great there. Rams are really good. They need a tall, physical corner and they need better interior linemen. They were going to address both in the draft and they didn't. There are teams that match up with Philadelphia. I think Detroit, very good offensive line. I think Detroit matches up well with them. But I think Philadelphia and Tampa, I think Tampa, actually, I think they match up better. I think they have a bigger corner. I think their interior line is better than, you know, than the Rams. I think this game, I just. It's a stay away for me. Yeah, Tampa at home. Home. Baker, the way he's playing, it's stay away.

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So. Did you see that Tampa, by the way, has signed or brought him up from the practice squad. A guy who's like 475 pounds in an effort to put him next to Vita Vea and stop the Tush push. They're calling him the Tush push stopper. This dude. This is a real thing. Tampa's like strategizing, so I respect that. And like you said, Bowles has bottled up hurts. If you look at their matchups, his schemes have given him problems. I like Philly. All right, let's go to the next story and my Niners. Remember you made me pivot from the jets to the Niners a couple of years ago. They're three and. Oh, Colin. Interesting situation developing at quarterback. Brock Purdy, quote, should return according to Kyle Shanahan. But is that because Mac Jones seemingly cannot go. He's limited at practice right now. A toe and shoulder for Mac Jones. He got beat up in that Cardinals game. I. I want to be on the Niners here. I'm a little nervous, though, about this Jacksonville team because I. For some reason, I like Jacksonville this season. I know I. I can't justify it yet.

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I always feel the Niners. I don't bet the Niners very often. If you really look, I don't. And one of the reasons I don't is I never know who's playing. I don't like to. I like to go into bets with answers, not questions. I know they have a great coach, but I don't know who the quarterback's going to be. You know, I just. When you have old, more brittle players that you can lose like without Bosa, it's not the same defense. It's just not. So I, I think with the Niners I'm always like game time decision, who's playing. When I turn the game on, I'm like, okay, he's playing. Kittle's back. I, I can't go into a game where I don't know who the starting quarterback is. If Brock Purdy had played in practice all week, I think San Francisco wins.

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Final one on the Niners. Before we move to the Cowboys, I wonder if the Niners are so worried about offense that they had Robert Sala go out and say, hey, you know, the Jags steal signals on the sideline, which is like a little brush fire to take it away the attention away from the Niners injuries and put it on the Jags. Interesting subplot. That's a great game. I'm very excited for that one in the afternoon on Fox. Final story. Colin is Micah Parsons and the return to Dallas. Obviously people are excited that he gets to go against a beat up offensive line in Dallas and he's going to be chasing around Dak Prescott. Here's Dak talking about how the story of the game should not be about the two friends.

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It'll definitely be fun. Yeah. As one, me and my fiance were just talking about the other day and just, just all the, the reps of practice going against Micah, you know, in times when he couldn't hit me, whether him getting back there, just the, the trash talk back and forth. Just excited to, to go and have that matchup. But he's got five guys up front plus tight ends and running backs that he's got to get through. So then we'll worry about if he can get to me. It is, it's a testament to Dak Prescott that as bad as Dallas's defense with CD Lamb hurt, they're only a touchdown underdog.

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Well at home that's a big number. Rose to cover a touchdown.

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Green Bay's offense, I don't they scored.

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10 against the Browns.

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I, I, I mean Browns may have the first, second or third best defense in the league.

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They played well early. Final note. Wouldn't you appreciate it if Dak went to the podium be like, bro, what do you expect me to do against Micah? I don't have CD Lamb. Like he was just brutally honest. Hey, Jake. Ferguson's nice. Pickens is nice. We're going up against the machine here, guys.

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We're in trouble. What if he just said that, you.

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Know, it's you should be Honest.

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We. We. I always thought Pickens, you know, Pickens is a huge talent.

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He's good.

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Yeah. But when you put him on the field with CD Lamb, he's not close to CD Lamb. Like that tells you. Like CD Lam separates. Yeah. On every pass play like CD Lam separates from good corners. Pickens doesn't separate. He's just long and really strong and physical, but he doesn't separate.

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Lamb can run every route in the route tree. Okay. Pickens is basically, his move is to go around. Remember last year Russell Wilson would basically just throw him jump balls. That was the offense for them.

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Deep.

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I. I like Packers a lot here. Colin did tell me you included this game.

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I did not. I don't take this. You, you love the big TV games.

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No, I don'. Those are the ones you don't want to.

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I don't. You, you. I think this is. I go into the weeds on stuff. Yeah.

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But remind me what happened in that playoff game? Do you remember that Packers Cowboys playoff game?

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Yeah, it was a blowout.

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I mean it was from the like 28. Nothing. I would not be shocked if this was early Packers. Holy smokes.

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All right, J. Mac with the news.

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Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.

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So I mean the game everybody's talking about, I don't think it will be the best game, but it is, it feels big is Baltimore and Kansas City. So I think we have found officially the limit on how much even a superstar legendary quarterback can do. Mahomes may be one in three after the weekend. They just don't have any juice offensively. And Lamar, maybe one in three after the weekend, they don't do anything right now. Well defensively although they are a little banged up. So we all know that if you give like average quarterbacks, really good weapons, good coach, they can feel like a different quarterback. But even all time greats have limits. And in Mahomes, think about this. In Mahomes last 22 starts, we looked this up. He has a lower passer rating, lower than Russell Wilson. So nothing lasts forever. Andy Reid and Belichick were fired in this league. Brady and Belichick and their dynasty went in the middle of it. Went three years without winning a playoff game. So I, I mean, and a lot of what has happened to Kansas City is not their fault. They've had weird injuries. Xavier Worthy runs into Travis Kelce. I mean they've had suspensions by players who get into hit and runs and do really bad things. And you know, they've missed On a couple of wide receivers like Skymore, everybody does. But I think a lot of times we talk about this, the eye test and yesterday I put up the super bowl bubble of, you know, the five or six teams that I feel can win the super bowl. And the one thing they all have in common, and you saw it with Seattle last night, you can see the energy. There is something that's special. And when I watch Kansas City, they look a little tired, they look fatigue. I don't see a lot of dynamic performers. Chris Jones in the trenches is good, but trust your eyes. I just, I mean my team's in the super bowl bubble and even the two or three surrounding them, there is something that is exceptional. I don't see exceptional. I think Andy and Mahomes are all time great, but offensively, not a lot of juice. They come out slow and I gotta see. You gotta feel like a baseball pitcher who's throwing one on one and you're throwing it past people. And I feel like they're a guy throwing sliders in the low 90s and they're painting the corners and you, you know, Greg Maddox maybe won that way. Most don't. So I, I just, I think the offense, it's between missed draft picks. They couldn't afford Joe Tooney, Travis Kelsey getting old, weird injury, ridiculous suspension. Not that the suspension was ridiculous, that Rasheed Rice's behavior was. I think it just all adds up to mid or worse than mid. Last 22 games, Mahomes lower passer rating. The Russell Wilson who just got benched. Here's Mahomes on the evolving offense. I understand that these guys can, can protect and they can give me time to make these throws and I'll continue to get better and better at that and try to make some of these throws more accurate down the field. And instead of hitting 1 to 2 a game, making that 3 to 4 and 5 to 6 and then defense was back up and it'll help us out with other stuff within the offense. You got to be able to execute and show that, showcase that you can hit those throws and if you do that, they'll adjust and then we have to adjust as well. And so that's what's beautiful about the NFL is you have to be able to adjust on the fly and make things happen again. I think Mahomes is carrying a very average unit and we talked about it this week. When you pay the quarterback, one of the reasons Tampa and Seattle are so good, they've got really good quarterbacks playing at real team friendly deals. When you pay Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, you have holes, you're just, you're going to have to give up special players. If Joe Tuney was still on this team, maybe the offensive line would look different. But he's not and it doesn't. So you know, it's. I said this the other day, J. Mac. For about three to four years, it felt like the afc, the best, were way better than the nfc. Then you had to pay Lamar, then you had to pay Josh, then you had to pay Mahomes, you had to pay Trevor Lawrence, you had to pay all the quarterbacks, Joe Burrow. Now those teams had to make sacrifices on personnel. So now the NFC has got really good quarterbacks on much more team friendly deals like Baker, like Darnold. Yeah. So like Jaden Daniels, who's a rookie. So what you're seeing now is. And Jalen hurts deals pretty team friendly. So what you're seeing now is the better quarterbacks, maybe in the afc, the better roster teams, yes, the better teams and rosters are on the network called Fox. The deeper rosters, Detroit's roster, Rams rosters, Phillies roster, they. When you get a, you know, either a young quarterback, a rookie quarterback deal or more favorable deal, you just get more good players.

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Yeah, that was my favorite take of yours this week. I want to add there's a couple cross conference matchups this week to watch.

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Colts.

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Rams. Are the Colts for real? Are they frauds? We don't know. Well, we'll kind of find out. Rams are good, right? You got Browns, Lions. You seem to think the Browns defense is good.

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I do.

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We'll see. And then there was one other one. I'm spacing on it now, but it seems like, you know, there are only six teams in the AFC with winning records. That could be down to like four after this weekend. Honestly, if the two in one teams go down, it's like, yeah, I'm betting.

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On an AFC team this weekend to win convincingly that I, I think they're one of the only teams left that is really good and hasn't shown it. And if they don't show it this weekend, then they're not good. You can't, you can't go a month and not be good.

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Oh, I know who you're.

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Start your Saturday strong with Big Noon Saturday. Number 21, USC is looking for a Big Ten statement win as they take on the 23rd ranked Fighting Illini. It all goes down live from Champagne starting with big noon kickoff at 10am Eastern. Then it's USC Illinois only on Fox.

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You know it's so funny. Lincoln Riley has the, this, you know, this reputation. Well, you kind of finesse and they pass a lot. USC is running the ball at a 55% clip. They're a run team, they've got good receivers. But USC is a run team. Illinois is a man to man defense, heavy blitz team. It'll be very interesting. The alliance back end is all beat up. They lost a player for the year. So I'm not, I think USC may go to the air in this one because generally if you look at what Illinois does defensively, they put people in the box, they bring heat. But it's funny to watch that. Lincoln Riley's got this reputation. When I used to watch Oklahoma, everybody thought I was throwing the ball around. I thought it was the power run game at Oklahoma and the complimentary pass game. I think Caleb Williams made you think that USC and Lincoln Riley, it made, you know, it made Caleb Williams individually made you think. Lincoln Riley loved to pass. He actually likes to run the ball. If you watch USC play this year, they are a run first team. They've got excellent running back that probably the deepest part of this team is they can go four deep at running back. That's what they're great at. They've got two really good receivers and then they have to play a freshman. They're not terribly deep at wide receiver. They want to run the football. They and, and because they blew leads last year. They blew leads last year because their offensive line wasn't very good. This year it's much better. It's still super young. So Illinois is going to blitz the hell out of them and say, let's see if your freshmen and redshirt sophomores can block. That's what, that's what Illinois is going to do. They're going to bring a ton of pressure. And usc, they want to crowd the box, make USC throw, make Jaden Mayava make mistakes. But I do think it's funny the, the, this whole idea of like Lincoln Riley's throw the ball guy. This team is a run first team at Oklahoma, they ran the ball. That's not who he is. So I thought it was interesting last night on the Amazon broadcast. Generally speaking, this is the way it works. Most former pro athletes, Peyton Manning is a great example. Don't like to criticize current pro athletes. Tom Brady doesn't like to criticize pro athletes. He'll criticize a coach, an organization. But you know, most of these guys, there's a brotherhood and you just, you don't like to bring the hammer on players. You kind of soft pedal it or maneuver around the harshness. Except Russell Wilson. So Tony Gonzalez last night, and Tony's a nice guy and not super opinionated. He's like, if there's ever been a guy who's played himself out of the hall of Fame, Tony Gonzalez said, it's Russell Wilson. And I mean, Richard Sherman backed him up. He said, without that legendary defense in Seattle, look at the truth. I think what happened with Russell Wilson is weird. He went from eight years, Pro Bowls, maybe the most talked about quarterback in the league not named Brady. I mean, Seahawks were like the story four years in the league. But he didn't get along with Sean Payton. His college coach at North Carolina State benched him. Pete Carroll got tired of him. Pittsburgh was one and done. And now his coaches benching him at 03. And I, and I, by the way, I've never seen a quarterback get criticized more often publicly than Russell Wilson. And my takeaway is there's a cringy, corny, kind of inauthentic feel that players just don't like. Almost like, you know, I don't know how to put it. Like, he acts the way a quarterback should act, but it doesn't feel terribly authentic. I mean, didn't have a lot of players at his wedding. He's not that close with a lot of players. Whatever. It just doesn't work. But I think, you know, if he hands the ball off to Marshawn lynch In Super Bowl 49, he's probably a Hall of Famer. That was a big discussion this week. Now I don't think he is. But I think. I think the biggest. The big issue came down to this is that in Seattle, the Seahawks were great for about six, seven years, but they were great for a lot of reasons. It was a collective. Marshawn Lynch, Pete Carroll's energy, the legion of boom, the 12th man in the fans, John Snyder's drafting, you know, Marshawn lynch and Russell Wilson, there was a lot of reasons. They were great. Russell Wilson was getting star treatment. I think it felt like to his teammates he wanted superstar treatment and he was a star of the team. But Marshawn lynch is every bit as good at his position. And that defense is legendarily historically great. And the only thing I've ever been able to put my finger on with the dynamic in Seattle is that that great Seattle team was a collective of coaching and GMing and Marshawn lynch and the defense and the outstanding corners. And Russell was a star, but his teammates felt like he wanted superstar treatment. And it just. It never felt right. That's the only way I can describe it. Maybe a little bit of a lack of self awareness. You know, I just. It's just a weird career from way up here to suddenly nobody wants to coach him long term without a big injury. It's weird. It's one of the strangest things I've ever. Three years ago, I just couldn't figure it out at all. Now I think I've wrapped my brain around it at some point. It's, you know, like that self awareness and your own office, which I defended initially. And Sean Payton's like, no. And it's just a disconnect. I mean, he still has a great deal of confidence about his ability. I think for me personally, you know, as well as I'm not done. I got so much belief in myself and know what I'm capable of. I believe I was able to show it, especially, you know, on the road in Dallas and everything else I know that can help this football team, you know, if that comes up. He went from kind of underrated, undervalued, to instantly in Denver. Overrated, overvalued with no major injury. It generally, if you play in this league for 10 years, fans have a beat on you. Media's got a beat on you. I'm from the Pacific Northwest. I watched every one of his games. I thought I had a beat on him and then I didn't. Ba fast, like it just turned. Now it's gone downhill. His last eight starts, he's 0 and 8. So that's including the playoffs, he's 0 and 8. Giants and Steelers, I don't think they're great fits. I think their organization, one is tone deaf to offense, Pittsburgh. And the other one doesn't have a lot going for at the Giants. But it is, it has been an incredible career. But there was a big debate this week when he got benched. Is he a Hall of Famer? And I tend to think when you have a career that ends poorly, you had to be unbelievable in the meat of it. And Aaron Rodgers, it may not end well, but for like 11 years, there was a sense he was the best quarterback in the league and he was putting up those kind of numbers. There was about eight years with Russell. He was really good, but Aaron didn't have that kind of run game. Aaron didn't have that kind of defense. You could argue Aaron didn't have that kind of coaching. Aaron didn't have that kind of 12th man like Seattle. That roster, that roster in Seattle for about five years was like a notch above the second best roster in the league. Aaron's never had that. So Aaron's, you know, in Green Bay, where you don't have a lot of free agents, the coach, Mike McCarthy wasn't beloved. He never had great run games. With the exception of the one year he won a Super Bowl. Aaron didn't have a lot of great defenses. Russ had all of it. And so when it comes to hall of Fame, I have to think about that. In your prime, what were you surrounded by? Russ had an all star team. It's a little bit like Jalen Hurts. Like Jalen hurts in his prime is surrounded with a completely stacked roster. And if we look at 8, 10, 9, 11 years with Jalen Hurts and we consider the, you know, the totality of his career as he hall of Famer, what was he surrounded by in his prime? We all know Aaron Rodgers is a Hall of Famer. The best argument for Aaron's greatness is did he ever have a great coach? Did he ever have a great deal defense, did he ever have a great run game? And until he got Matt LaFleur. I could argue. No, he kind of carried Green Bay for years. The hall of Fame thing is, Russell was never really asked to carry a team. Brady had to carry some pretty lean defenses at the year. Brady, outside of the Randy Moss years, had to carry a lot of average receiving course. I mean, let's be honest, it didn't. He didn't have a lot to work with outside of the, you know, Gronk in his prime, Randy Moss, Edelman, late. Tom carried a lot of average offensive personnel. Mahomes has won Super Bowls in the last three years. Very offensively limited. You know, Russ had an All Star team in his prime and Denver's not an all star team, Pittsburgh's not, the Giants aren't. And here's what it looks like. I think you have to consider all that stuff. All right, Blazing five I like favorites this weekend. Some big, some small, but favorites doing pretty well. Weird weekend. I don't think it's as weird. I think college and pro, a lot of favorites Posting W's the Toyota Certified Used Vehicle Sales Event is here. It is packed with great surprises. Choose from a wide selection of low mileage vehicles all backed by Toyota, with warranties that begin on the date of purchase. Because when it comes to quality, the best new cars make the best used cars. So don't miss your chance. Find your certified Toyota today, but hurry. These Great offers end November 3rd. Toyota Certified used Vehicle Sales event where every surprise is a great one. Inventory may vary by dealer, participating dealers only. Comprehensive and powertrain are limited warranties. 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