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Jonas Knox
You know, there's a lot of things that people complain about in the world of sports, but one thing, as it turns out is going to be coming a little bit more valuable as the season goes on. We'll get into that for you coming up here in just a couple of moments from now. Jonas Knox in for Colin here on the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. You can find this show on the iHeartRadio app. You can also find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country as we take you all the way up until 3pm Eastern Time, noon Pacific. And I was thinking about this as we are still in the midst of the college football Labor Day weekend extravaganza where you've got like 700 games over a four day span or whatever to five day span. And that's not to be disrespectful to Week Zero. All right, a lot of respect for Week Zero. That still counts. I don't know why it's called Week zero. It's kind of odd. But we've got this giant college football weekend and I was thinking about this. Thank God for the expanded College Football Playoff because man, there's a lot of teams out there that are like, you know what? We don't get a preseason kind of ran into a little bit of a difficult situation. At least we're going to have some time to sort through these things. And you're looking back at last year and you go, man, Ohio State won a national championship. If you would have told them on the field as Michigan is celebrating at the Horseshoe in Columbus that hey guys, don't worry about it, you're going to win a national championship. People probably wouldn't have believed you. They probably wouldn't have cared. But the expanded College Football Playoff has given teams an opportunity to maybe not be so punished for a loss. And God forbid a loss, when you go into a difficult situation like some of these teams went into this weekend, whether it's Texas going to the Horseshoe and taking on the defending national champions, whether it's Notre Dame going to Miami and taking on the Hurricanes, mean Brian Kelly credit to lsu, but do you really think looking at that game now, do you think Clemson, when it's all said and done, is going to be a forgotten team in the College Football Playoff? Who knows? Maybe they melt down. Maybe Kate club Nick suffers an unfortunate injury. Like, who knows? But the point is you've now got the opportunity to make up for your. Oh. That you lose. If you have the balls to take on somebody early in the season, that would be a difficult matchup. This used to happen in boxing all the time. Fighters would protect their O because it was looked at as like this ne. Oh, man, listen, if you are undefeated, it me. And then all of a sudden the UFC came around and we're like, yeah, whatever, things happen. Got caught in a choke, got clipped, got hit behind the ear. Yeah, what happened? You know, listen this, that's the way this stuff goes. And you now start looking back and going, who are the greatest fighters of all time? George St. Pierre's in the conversation. Losses. Everybody loved Conor McGregor, lot of losses, Daniel Cormier, losses. Jon Jones has got one by technical. But it's like you look at it and you go, yeah, a loss isn't the end of the world. It's not the end of the road. It's not the end of your career. It's why people loved Manny Pacquiao, maybe over Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather, undefeated, great career. Manny Pacquiao had balls, took chances, took fights he probably didn't need to take. Took dangerous fights, fought in a dangerous style because he wasn't so fixated on keeping his perfect record. And college football has now given teams an opportunity to do that. He got some people that were looking at it going, yeah, but if you expand the College Football Playoff, then you know it's going to diminish some of the impact of some of these games. No, it's not. No, it's not. So I gotta take away from the entertainment value. Did you watch this weekend? It was awesome. It was great to have college football back. And I got news for you. The quality of games weren't even that great. Ohio State, Texas Wasn't that great of a game? You want to know how good of a game Ohio State, Texas was? There were people trying to figure out whether or not Ryan Day had a nipple piercing. That's how. That's. That's the kind of. Kind of quality game we were talking about here. But it didn't matter. It was the atmosphere. It was finally back. People were starved for it, and in a lot of ways, it delivered. You did see sloppy games, but the atmosphere was there. And more than that, you saw teams take chances. Teams look at this as an opportunity to make a statement. But even if you come up short, you're not going to be punished unfairly to where it would have happened in years past. And as I mentioned, open up. Look, these guys don't get preseason games. That's why it looks like this. That's why the first game of the year in Dublin was awful. In the first half, turnovers, rain, great. It's like sloppy, sloppy. It's going to happen. So when you look at college football and you look at the landscape of college football, I know there may be some people who don't like the expanded playoff. They don't like the fact that we've got so many teams. Dude, it's going to save seasons and give teams an opportunity to make up for, God forbid, suffering a loss. It's no longer boxing. You're not going to be punished or judged differently. If you suffer a loss, especially early in the season, you're going to have an opportunity. And the expanded playoffs is giving these teams an opportunity they would have never have had in years past. At the Jonas Knox on X is where you can find us. By the way, you can follow along on Instagram as well, too. At Jonas Knox. Show on Instagram is where you can find us. All right, so now, speaking of the college football weekend. All right, let's go back to Columbus and no, we're not talking about Ryan Day's nipple piercing. We're not. We're not getting into that. Some people have said that's a fake photo. It looked like a bar. It didn't even look like a hoop. It looked like a bar. Which, look, you know, guys getting after it a little bit. Maybe he polishes his beard, maybe he doesn't. You know, the great Petros Papadakis was the first to point that out. I'm not here to judge. I've got. I've made awful decisions. I've had piercings. I got dumb tattoos. I'm not here to judge. Ryan Day wants to go get his nipple. Pierce. Go get his nipple. Pierce. But maybe it was a fake photo, maybe it wasn't. The other story to come out of that game, outside of whether or not Ryan Day hit up a piercing shop in Columbus and got his breast stabbed by a guy with 35,000 tattoos, the arch Manning reaction. Now, to be fair, let's give the man an opportunity to talk. Let's listen to Arch Manning. Here he was following the difficult performance and difficult game and difficult setting he was in in Columbus. Yeah, it didn't start fast enough. Took a whole half for us to kind of even the ball down the field. So that starts with me. Get back to square one and get back Monday and go prepare for San Jose State. Yeah, Ultimately not good enough. Obviously, you don't want to start off the season 01. They're a good team, but I thought we beat ourselves a lot. And that starts with me, and I got to play better for us to win. Can't wait till the second half to kind of get things going. All right, that was Arch Manning. I don't know who did this. I don't know who's responsible for this. And look, I'm not trying to blame other people in the industry or in media, all right? I'm just pointing out the fact that I was not one of these people. I felt like I had a more rational understanding of what the expectation should be. My expectations were a little different, but I don't know what people thought they were going to get from a guy who has two starts in his career, who's going on the road against the defending national champions at their house in front of a hundred plus thousand people in his third start in week one, when, as I mentioned, things are going to be a little sloppy, not just for Arch Manning, but for a lot of teams in college football, because, as I mentioned, you don't get a preseason. And I'm seeing, like this referendum on Archman and. Oh, my God. The. The Heisman odds have dipped. The. The Heisman odds have dipped. Okay, do you want to talk about some of the other things that you could gamble on throughout the course of time? All right, anybody else want to talk about. You want to talk about the fact that people were betting on where was the next place a sex toy was going to be thrown on the court at a WNBA game? Okay, like. And that got more action than a futures bet on who was gonna win the WNBA championship? You can bet on a lot of things. All right, so let's take that with a grain of salt. And that's not to insult my friends in the gambling industry. I'm a degenerate. Proud of it. Okay. But let's not look at it. Go. Oh my God. The. The Heisman odds. Who, who set the odds? Who perpetuated this story? Who's the one that was pushing Arch Manning out there to be the next big thing on two starts? And I got news for you. Maybe he turns things around, maybe against San Jose State or some of these other schools, he's going to find his rhythm. He looked a little better in the second half, but yeah, he's going to struggle. My guess would be a lot of quarterbacks would struggle in that environment against that team. And credit to Matt Patricia, the defensive coordinator for Ohio State. But this idea that all, like, all. Yep. The book is written on Arch Manning. Really? Who wrote the first one? We got two pages in and everybody was like, oh, this is the greatest novel I've ever seen. You're two pages in. He started two games. Who pushed that out there? I didn't. Cuz it doesn't make sense. We've seen this when it comes to college football in the past. Nobody was talking about Johnny Manziel. Nobody was talking about Johnny Manziel. I can remember the one guy, there was one guy who was trying to tell people about Johnny Manziel and he kept calling him Johnny Football. I'm like, dude, John Fricky, former Fox Sports radio host, I remember working with Fricky and I remember him saying, johnny Football. Gotta watch out for Johnny Football. Nobody else was talking about Johnny Manziel. You couldn't even get an interview with the guy. I tried Texas A and M said, no, he's a freshman. We don't let freshmen do interviews. The point is RG3 being a Heisman. Nobody had RG3 winning the Heisman. And then he lit everything up. The first week of the season, everyone's like, oh, that guy might be a contender, but this idea that going into the season off two starts, oh, he's the Heisman favorite. He's this, he's that. He's first off. I'm not going to say it's unfair to him. His last name is Manning. We know that comes with the territory. But who pushed this notion out there? It was unrealistic, the entire idea that Arch Manning was going to be out there and he was going to light up Ohio State. And they got, they got problem, dude, it's the first week, it's his third start and that's Ohio State. This doesn't mean that all of a sudden he's a bust. It doesn't mean that you know, Arch Manning. No, it's gonna take some time. And maybe he wasn't as good as everybody built him up to be yet. But whose fault is that? Arch Manning, it's not his fault. His granddad's talking about, well, he wants to stay in school. He wants to stay in this. People are talking about, well, you know, the Saints are trying to take form or tank form. And Arch Manning's like, I, like, I don't know where anybody's getting this from. Like, I haven't made any decisions like what is happening here. So for everybody out there who all of a sudden is, has decided on what their opinion of Arch Manning is after one game, maybe we should revisit your opinion before that game, after he started two games to get a better understanding as to how realistic the idea of what you thought was going to happen really was. Jonas Knox in for calling here on the Herd on Fox Sports Radio, by the way, brought to you by Rocket Mortgage, the home you've worked so hard for is ready to work hard for you with a home equity loan from Rocket Mortgage. To learn how you can turn your home's equity into cash, visit RocketMortgage.com today. Rocket Mortgage, LLC, licensed in 50 states, nmlsconsumeraccess.org, number 3030. All right, so we are going to have some fun here on the Herd as we again take you all the way up until noon Pacific Time, 3 Eastern Time. We will have the Herdline news. All sorts of shenanigans. College football's back. We got a big debut coming up later on tonight. All of that is yours here on this three hour extravaganza. Up next, though, the shade has already started. Somebody already throwing shade and they didn't even need to like outsource anybody for this idea. They just stayed local in the world of sports. Find out who that is next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. Would mean a lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name is the fifth hour? I'll tell you, it's a spin off of the Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights on fsr. Why should you listen? Picture, if you will, a world where we chat with captains of industry in media, sports and more every week. Explore some amazing facts about human nature and more. Listen to the fifth hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. It's a herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox in for Colin, by the way. Coming up in, we'll call it about 10 minutes from now on the first installment of the Herdline News. Somebody catching a lot of heat via social media and in the world of sports. I think they should be celebrated. Okay? I think they should be celebrated. And we will explain why that is coming up here in about 10 minutes from now. So you knew that this was gonna happen. All right? Now, I, I do appreciate, you know, people that, like, very successful people that are always trying to learn. Like that's important. Like you're always trying to learn, like, hey, what's somebody else doing? Maybe I could take something from them. Maybe their idea is a little better than mine. I don't want to be so set in my ways, okay? I don't want to be so set in my ways. And I got to give credit where credit's due. I don't know who's pushing the PR for the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know who's doing it. All right? I'm not sure, but whoever had the thought of, you know what, why don't we just hit up the Mavs and see how they handle the Luca trade, right? Remember that? Remember when the Mavs trade Luca, you know, they trade Luca to the Lakers and nobody could figure it out. And then all these reports come out afterwards where they're basically fat shaming Luca, you know, like they, they. The Dallas Mavericks made a concerted effort to make it seem like Luka Doncic was lard ass from Stand By Me like, like he wasn't practicing his jump shot. He was in a pie eating contest. Like that. That, if you want to believe the Mavs, that's basically what the Dallas Mavericks are doing. And so the Dallas Cowboys and I, again, I don't know who's doing this, all right? But this according to the great Albert Brear, all right, Who's a. A frequent contributor on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with myself and Lavar Arrington and Brady Quinn, who are both enjoying the day off today. But Albert Breer said this quote, Zach Martin, CD Lamb and Dak Prescott are and were very popular in the locker room. That's not the case with Parsons, who has rankled teammates in different ways, seen by some as egotistical and self centered. His podcast has Created issues, too. That goes all the way up to quarterback Dak Prescott. All right, now, maybe all that's true. Maybe Micah Parsons is a bit of a pain in the. All right, we've heard that that's not the first time Albert Breer has reported that. All right, he's been on that before. Anybody that, you know, listen, things maybe were a little different. Different and difficult behind the scenes dealing with Micah Parsons. You had Jerry Jones kind of make mention of this when he had that, you know, awful press conference a couple of days ago where he said, well, you know, we wanted Micah to take on, you know, be more of a. Take on, more of a leadership role. That was the expectation. Like, there's been some rumblings about that. Right. But the idea that Micah Parsons ego is what led to the potential split between the Cowboys and Micah Parsons is comical. Now, Dak Prescott did speak about the decision to move on from Micah Parsons, and it sounded like this. I definitely didn't think he was going to get traded, I'll say that. But just with the way that their negotiations went down, obviously, to some extent, I mean, hell, y' all were asking me questions. It seemed like it got personal on their ends. So, like, that's why I wasn't surprised. So that's Dak Prescott. And Dak Prescott may be one of those guys who thought Micah Parsons was a pain in the ass. Dak Prescott may have been one of those guys who was like, yeah, this guy's a little bit of a headache, et cetera, et cetera. But this notion that that was what the real issue was between Micah Parsons and the Cowboys is laughable, considering this is the same organization that was willing to overlook the egos and maybe odd behavior of guys like, I don't know, Greg Hardy. Ever heard of him? You know, stuff in the past that was okay. I mean, I don't know anybody ever, you know, looked into, you know, behavior in the locker room from Charles Haley. All right, Anybody ever look into that? You know, I'll put it this way. Cause I want to keep it clean. Right. If this was. This was another time slot, maybe I could go a little bit more in depth. But Charles Haley thought it was the perfect opportunity to have his own batting practice. We'll just put it that way. You can look that story up. Odd behavior, creepy behavior, weird behavior, all of that. Acceptable. Apparently Deion Sanders had an ego. Apparently. Wasn't too much to where they were. Like, ah, now we can't. No, the problem is trying to make sense of absolute nonsense. And it's a waste of time. It's a terrible move and a terrible trade. It's terrible. And anybody trying to find the reasoning why you just can't. Sometimes you can't. I've said this before. You can't argue with or fix crazy from time to time. You just can't do it. Who listening here right now has ever dated somebody who was crazy? Just crazy, Right? Lee, I'm not even. I'm not even going there, okay? But the point is, at first, you defend him. Like, your buddy pulls you aside and goes, hey, man, she's a little. Little crazy, okay? There's. There's something going on there. No, no, you just don't. Like, you don't know, man. You know, it's like behind the scenes and. No, no, no, you don't. Yeah, you don't get it. You don't. You don't see what it's like. She just had a couple of drinks. That's all. It's not that big of a deal. She just, you know, she was a little uncom. Will be not. And then, like, it happens. It happens. It happens. And then, you know, a couple months later, a couple years later, who knows, 30 years after you last appeared in a conference championship game, somebody pulls you aside and you look at them and go, yeah, yeah. It's just nuts. Just. Just crazy. Yeah, there's. Yeah, you're right. You're right. And you were right the whole time. That's where we're at with Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. It doesn't make sense. None of it makes sense. You can't make sense of the nonsense. It's crazy. It was a crazy decision to trade Micah Parsons. It was a crazy decision to not get a deal done sooner. All of it was crazy. And so whatever story that's coming out where Micah had an ego and Micah. Dude, who cares? It's the NFL. If somebody can play, you're willing to overlook whatever issues they have off the field to a certain extent. Look at Deshaun Watson, okay? The what, 60, a hundred different accusations from massage therapists. And Jimmy has them. And the Browns are like, yeah, I don't care. He could play quarterback. They thought. So let's. Let's make a move and get it done. Yeah, we'll deal with the suspension. We'll deal with all that. So this idea that Micah Parsons ego was. Was part of the reason that they didn't get a deal done, or Micah, man, there's been a lot of guys that have blown through Dallas. No pun intended. All right? We're not bringing up the White House and all the other stories from the past, but there's been a lot of guys who have played for the Cowboys who had at best, at worst, something far beyond that, and they were willing to overlook that. You can't make sense of any of this. There's a reason why nobody cares about the packers side of this trade. You wanna know why? Because there's nothing to discuss. There's nothing to debate. Oh, yeah, he's a great player. Maybe the best player at his position. They paid him a lot. They brought him in. Cool. They're chasing Super Bowls. No. Like, nobody's talking about the packers side. You notice that? Nobody's having a discussion about it because everybody knows that the Green Bay packers did exactly what they should have done. They wanted to get better. They identified a. An opportunity to get better at a position of need. They got aggressive and they called up the loony. The NFC eased and said, hey, are you. Are you serious about this? You really want to trade them? Cool. Like, yeah. Yep. Okay. Yeah, we'll take him. Sure. 47 million a year, whatever the guarantees are. Whatever, Whatever. That's fine. Send them to Green Bay. Yeah, listen, there's not as much to do there as in Dallas, but you know what? Maybe he'll be playing for a Super bowl, which he was never going to do with the Cowboys. So I don't care about. And this is, you know, not a knock on Albert Brier. He's been fantastic through this entire. As far as reporting that side of it. But if that really is part of the explanation, then that ought to tell you, you can't explain it because you can't explain away crazy. Despite what people are trying to do with the Micah Parsons trade in Dallas at the Jonas Knox NX at Jonas Knox show on Instagram is where you can find us here on the Herd on Fox Sports Radio. And right now, it is time for lead to laugh with the Herdline news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the her. What up, Lee?
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Lee
Not much. Jonas, how you doing, buddy?
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Jonas Knox
We're just hanging out, man. Just hanging out. Just. You and I are just working. That's working.
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Lee
Happy Labor Day, man. I like. I like to work on Labor Day.
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Jonas Knox
Just people that work, you know?
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Lee
That's what I always thought is you should work on Labor Day.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, that's what I thought, too.
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Lee
Jonas, in case you missed this, public enemy number one from the weekend Polish CEO Pierrick has made an apology. Do you know who that is? Peter Piotr Charik.
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Jonas Knox
That'S the. The guy who had the fast hands. That's right.
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Lee
Yeah, from the US Open. In case you missed it, he. He snatched a hat from a Polish tennis player who had. Was making the autographs after his big win. He made a big upset and he was doing autographs for the kids and fans in the stands. He was handing out a hat and kid was about to grab it, but instead Polish CEO Peter Czar snagged it in front of him. And he's become public enemy number one. People calling him a jerk and plenty of other names online. Well, he has made his apology saying he has made a grave mistake. I was convinced that the tennis player was passing the cap to me for my sons who had previously asked for autographs. I sincerely apologize to the boy who was harmed, his family as well as all the fans and player himself.
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Jonas Knox
So the kid's slow on the draw and this guy gets all the heat for it.
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Lee
That's right.
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Jonas Knox
What are we talking about here?
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Lee
The kid was. Did get a hat after all. The tennis player, of course he did find him and gave him a bunch of gifts, including a new hat.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, I got news for you. That was my son who had a hat taken from him. And he looks at me and says, but can I still get a hat? I'd be like, no. And in fact, you're grounded for three weeks. Be faster, okay? Guys handing out valuable items, you got to know every. This is in demand. This is. This a big story for Poland. Guys handing out hats, stuff that's going to be valuable one day. You got to be faster, okay? You can't stand around and expect things are going to be given to you. So I'm with this guy. He shouldn't have apologized.
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Lee
Yeah, a bunch of people agree with you. Some fake lawyers took. Were fast on the draw, too. Taken to the Internet claiming to be his lawyer, saying if you were faster, you'd have it. This was a learning lesson.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, that's right. This is a valuable lesson here. It's also a valuable lesson that, like, the. The whole idea of asking for assigned items is. Is just odd to me. Like, I took my wife and I took my son. Loves. He loves baseball. He loves baseball. He loves the Cubs. And so we took him to the Cubs Angels game the Friday before, this past Friday. And she was like, you know, did you bring a pen? Pen for what? She goes, you know, maybe we could get somebody to sign something. It's like, no, gotta have that Sharpie ready. No, no, we're not. We're not Doing that. I'm not running around in the heat to try and get Dansby Swanson's autograph on a baseball that my son's just going to scribble off anyways. What are we talking about?
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Lee
Come on, man, you got to get it for the kids. The kids is great, but he is a big funder of the Polish Tennis Federation, so I'm sure he wants a little something for his money, you know?
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Jonas Knox
I mean, look, it's a lesson. It's a learning lesson, all right? And it's that old. That old quote, there is no losing. You win or you learn. And hopefully that kid learned. What else we got? Lee Jonas.
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Lee
It's been reported that the 49ers will wear their white jerseys for the early season games, home games, to combat the possible heat factor at Levi's Stadium. That will wear their white throwbacks in week three versus the Cardinals and their primary white uniforms versus the Jaguars in week four.
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Jonas Knox
I didn't realize that that was such a big deal. And then I think it was it Rex Ryan who made the point I think it was Rex Ryan who made the point that he was like, listen, man, like, a lot of people don't talk about the humidity. Like, there's people that talk about, you know, the. The cold being a factor, but the humidity in Florida, the heat early in the year, like, it does have an impact, especially when you haven't played a real game in a long time. So, yeah, I mean, I. It makes sense. I didn't know the heat was that much of an issue at Levi's Stadium. Like, if you watch a Giants game, if you watch a San Francisco Giants game, people are in turtlenecks, people are bundled up. But I didn't realize that Levi's Stadium had that much of a heat issue.
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Lee
I've heard it's a huge, huge issue at Levi's Stadium that it's almost unbearable on one side of the stadium that you really. That I assume that the ticket prices are much different for the shady side versus the. Versus the heated side.
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Jonas Knox
Yet that is a. That is a good move. Like, if you're going to buy tickets to anywhere you got it, you got to check the shade.
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Lee
Oh, we're going through a heat wave here. And then we're doing the same thing for Dodgers games. We're always looking to get the shade. Shady side.
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Jonas Knox
Let's go live to our weatherman, Chris. Perfect for the latest. Chris, I think I had a friend one time go down to, like, Lions, Chargers, when they were still playing in Qualcomm. It's like week one, and he sat on the shaded side. And meanwhile on the field, like, guys, their cleats, the. You know, the artificial turf, the rubber down there was, like, melting into the cleats. It was that hot. Yeah, it's. And by the way, what a dump. Qualcomm Stadium. Oh, my God. Whoa. No wonder Barrett Robbins took off to Tijuana. I wouldn't want to play in that game either. Play sucks.
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Lee
That was my first NFL stadium, so I didn't know any different, any better. So, yeah, this place is cool.
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Jonas Knox
And then you went to another one, you're like, oh, God. Yeah. Look, it's like moving up from a high school stadium to, like, I don't.
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Lee
Know, like, Notre Dame.
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Jonas Knox
It was. That was. That place was rough, man. That play. And. And they had a Super Bowl. They had a lot going on there. That place was rough.
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Lee
I thought it was cool because you could just take the train right to the stadium, which is always a good factor for stadiums.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah. I mean, at that point, just take the train and keep on going, like, as far as it takes you. If you end up in Jalisco like that, that's fin. Just take it where you can. What else we got?
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Lee
Lee Shiloh Sanders. The NFL has decided to fine him $5,000 after he was ejected from that game versus the Bills in the preseason and subsequently cut from the team from the Buccaneers. Well, he says if he doesn't land on another team, he's ready to move on and find new ventures in music, acting, and modeling. His dad, Dion, Mr. Prime, says, you guys don't know how versatile and talented my son is.
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Jonas Knox
Okay, so he may not play in the NFL again, and they're still going to come after him for five grand? Yeah, like the NFL doesn't have enough money. You got to come after Shiloh Sanders for five grand? Like what? I mean, come on.
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Lee
Would it have been more if he had made the team and this was a regular season game?
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, I don't know, because I think it's a. A percentage of what you make, like, whatever your salary is. I think it's a percentage of that that you could find. But listen, he threw a punch. It was a dumb move. He's already been punished. All right? They. They. They released him. You know, he wasn't picked up on the practice squad. I don't think now he's going to try and figure things out somewhere else. But, I mean, five, like, they. The NFL needs five grand so much that they're going to come after him. For him.
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Lee
I'm sure it goes to a charity.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, Roger Goodell's charity. I don't, by the way, I don't know if that's, if that's confirmed. I don't want to get in trouble here as we are in for calling on the herd here. I don't know if that's, that's actually true. But, yeah, it just seems like the NFL going after some. It's like when the NFL punishes guys because their socks weren't pulled up. Which, by the way, Caleb Williams had his socks down, I think, the entire preseason. Did he get punished for that? Could you grok that? Could you look up whether or not Caleb Williams got punished for having his socks pulled down? Like, for some reason he just decided, you know what? I'm gonna go back to painting my nails and not pull my socks up. Cause last I checked, that's a, a punishable offense if you, if you do that during a, during an NFL game, you got the wardrobe police who come around to try and find guys.
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Lee
I see criticism, but no official.
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Jonas Knox
Fine.
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Lee
I'll dive deeper for you.
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Jonas Knox
That's unfortunate. All right, there it is. Lee Dalap with the Herdline News. Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. It's Jonas Knox in for calling here on Fox Sports Radio. And if you ever wondered whether or not certain people in the world of sports weren't carrying their weight, we've got proof and it's yours. Next, be sure to catch live editions of the herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. It's a herd here on FOX Sports Radio. Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up top of the next hour. About 15 minutes from now, we are going to tell you about somebody that is, they're feeling the heat. They're feeling the heat. And it doesn't feel like this is going to end very well for somebody in the world of football. We'll get into that for you again coming up here 50, 15 minutes from now. By the way, shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up. So if you've missed any of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. Just search herd or two pros wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to also follow, rate and review the pod. Again, just search herd or two pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll see today's show posted right after we get off the air. You can follow me on X at the Jonas Knox. That's at the Jonas Knox. And you can follow along on Instagram at Jonas Knox show, if you choose to do so. All right. The ratings came out recently for the NFL's preseason via Austin Karp of Sports Business Journal, who reports that the NFL enjoyed its most watched preseason since 2018. Games average 2.2 million viewers across NFL Network, Fox, ESPN, NBC, and CBS. That's up 17% from last year. Now, as the season is now we're. It is game week, all right? We're getting ready for. For the real regular season to take place. All right? I've always stood on the side of, hey, man, watch the preseason, watch these games. It's fun. Me. There's heartwarming stories and whatever's going on with, you know, Hard Knocks, which, by the way, I did not watch one single second of Hard Knocks this year, and I was okay. But you watch the preseason, and sometimes the fields aren't painted. Sometimes guys are in there and they're wearing, you know, different uniform numbers, and they're gonna wear when the regular season starts because guys are getting cut left and right, et cetera, et cetera. But those numbers tell you that the gap is widening. The gap between the NFL and everybody else is widening because there's an opportunity and there's a lane for potentially other leagues, other people, other sports to pop up, and nobody's able to do it. And the lead the NFL has over everybody else is getting longer and longer and longer, and they're going to continue to figure out ways to take over everything. And you could go back to Covid, which I think taught the NFL that, hey, man, you can play games on different days of the week. You can do this. You can adjust. If need be, you can. And the NFL realized, oh, you know, we could just go ahead and take Christmas. We could take all these all. We'll just. We'll take it all. And there's a lot of people that wonder, all right, when is. When are we going to reach a point to where it's just too much, where they've got NFL fatigue? Because starting this week, they've got it covered through mid February. So just think about that. They've got it covered through mid February, and people can't even wait for the regular season to get their fix and to scratch the itch. And whether it's fantasy football, whether it's gambling, which is a form of. Or fantasy football, which is a form of gambling, whatever it is, the fact that the NFL in a preseason is seeing its numbers go up when other leagues and other sports are seeing their numbers go down or they're seeing dips and they're. That just shows you that they've adjusted, that they've recognized. Yeah, you know what? And if you want to talk about, you know, pushing storylines, if you want to say, oh, what was Shador Sanders, Fine. What? Call Shador Sanders. But he started one preseason game, he didn't play in another, and he played late in the third. This isn't just a Shador Sanders thing. And the thing about the NFL is it's not. It's not so much about the stars. With the NBA, you need, you know, star power. You need, you know, it's all about the names. It's LeBron, it's all these names that come along with it. In the NFL, you got your fan bases, you've got your teams. Great quarterbacks, great stars, help. All that's. I mean, all that's fine and dandy, but ultimately, people love their teams. People are fired up to watch their team. People have hope for their team. And then kickoff starts and you look and you realize, oh, God, they're awful. Like, yeah, this is a problem. And so I don't see a bubble bursting. I don't, like, think about. Think about the discussions that we have about teams that aren't even good in the NFL. The Cowboys, they're not even good. And they take over majority of the discussion. You can argue the Cowboys are talked about more than any other professional team in sports, and they're not even good. How many times have you heard a discussion about the Oklahoma City Thunder? Who are good? You don't. You just don't. But you do with the Cowboys, you do with the jets, you do with other mediocre teams around the NFL, because the NFL has proven its king. We're not even at the regular season, and you're seeing the numbers increase, which tells me the numbers are probably going to go up when the regular season starts, because people are starved for football because whatever other sport that they're presented, whatever sport they're watching, when it's not football, it doesn't compare. I love baseball. I'm. I'm a big baseball fan. Not even in the same stratosphere. Not even close. I think it's gotten better. I think it's improved. I think there's better storylines. I think the product is better. It. It's gotten more entertaining, but not even in the same stratosphere. I like the NBA. The fact that the NBA unopposed can't touch the NFL, even when you did have good games and good story, even when you had good finishes and all that, and the fact that we're, they can't even touch the NFL when there's no NFL on that. People would rather hear discussions about the draft and the fallout from the draft than they would teams fighting for a playoff spot or the playing games. College basketball is a three week sport now. It just is. It's all about the NCAA tournament. The NFL has figured it out. And whether you want to credit Roger Goodell or you want to credit whoever it is, the NFL had the foresight to be like, you know what, we could really take this thing over. We could take this thing over. In fact, we could take it over to a point to where we would be doing better ratings in our preseason than other sports are doing in their regular season. And that's what's happening. They're not dependent on stars. Everybody was worried years ago, man, when Brady retires and, and Peyton Manning retires and all these, all these guys retire, what's going to happen? What do you mean? There are spoke on the wheel, next person up. It's a revolving door. And whoever it is, we will present them, we'll present their team, we'll present the product. The fans will get around it and the numbers will go up. So the fact that you see these numbers from the preseason go up the way they did, whoever you want to credit, figure that out on your own. I'm just telling you the gap is widening. The NFL's got a big lead over everybody else and it's not changing anytime soon. Up next here on the Herd, we're going to tell you about somebody who is feeling the heat in the world of football right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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