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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 1 - The Big 10 is doing well, thoughts on Luka Doncic this season, some players need tough coaching
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Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. It is a Friday. It was a wild night. Gonna be another one tonight. We're live. We're in Chicago. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be watching or listening, thanks for making us part of your day. So we have talked about this. A Big Ten, the Nil has done the Big Ten a lot of favors. So right now Purdue is in Iowa and Illinois. They're all in the Elite Eight. And Michigan and Michigan State play tonight. You could have a all Big Ten Final Four. I don't think you're going to. I think Arizona may be the best team in the country. They look like last night. Yeah, we told you. Arizona, Arkansas, it's all going to be a lot of points. But you know, we all talk about the NIL. Of the five biggest spenders in college basketball, NIL4 are gone. Duke is the only one left. Kentucky won a single game. Same with Louisville. And for the record, BYU is the second biggest spender in college basketball. One and done did not win a game. So it's just like life. You can make a huge salary, but what are your financial choices? Four cars. Sorry, you're a moron. Six boats. Jet skis. Moron. Moron. I mean, you. What are you buying? Are you buying depreciating assets or accelerating assets? Real estate equities over a long stretch. So it's just the same thing in the nil. Iowa. Of the Sweet 16 teams, Iowa and Iowa State spend the least. Iowa's in the Elite Eight. Illinois spent a fortune. They spent a fortune overseas. They went and bought size. They're big. Michigan's in the middle. Michigan State. By the way, all five of their starters started their career at Michigan State. Purdue does that. We talked about this yesterday. Purdue's like, we pay our guys. Four of Purdue's five starters. They started at Purdue. So there's a lot of different ways to do it. Iowa doesn't spend any money. Illinois spends a fortune. Purdue, Nebraska who got bounced last night? Nebraska didn't spend any money. So, you know, I'm not saying that money doesn't matter, but it's just like having a big salary. What's the state tax rate, you have multiple cars, you have depreciating assets. That's on you. You buy real estate equities, the dollar goes further, you'll have a nicer retirement. So I, you know, I'm just watching like Illinois hammer Houston and you know, there was a bite earlier this season. I'm not saying money doesn't matter because Illinois went and bought great young talent from Europe and Houston. Here's a bite from Calvin Sampson earlier. It does matter. Are you a school academically that graduates a lot of affluent boosters? Here's what Kelvin Sampson said earlier this year. We have a very poor athletic department. We're poor. You know, we were poor when I got here and we're still poor. We probably have the lowest budget of anybody in power four, you know, and, you know, the way our recruiting is going, we have to stop at some point because we don't have enough money to keep bringing in really good players. Teams that have the best recruiting classes usually have the most money. That's the way it is today. Absolutely right. But the biggest spender this year was Kentucky. $20 million won a game. BYU, Louisville, Iowa didn't spend anything relative to the other Sweet 16 teams. I also think something that helps the Big Ten immensely. I can say this. When I was a kid, I didn't watch SEC football. I watched the Big Ten, the Big Ten in the Rose Bowl. The Big Ten is perfectly situated in the middle of the country. And when they added all those PAC 12 schools, Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, everybody said, oh, it's bad, bad. Those schools look so smart. The Big Ten coffers are getting full. They have pulled away. They are the super conference in college sports. We could have an, all Big Ten Final Four and everybody, oh, that's not good for the sport. Well, the ratings are up. I think one of the reasons the ratings are up because the Big Ten is situated right in the middle of the country and is connected to Seattle, Los Angeles, Chicago, the New Jersey, New York market. I think one of the reasons the ratings are up, it's the right team winning. You know, I mean, I, as somebody that grew up on the West Coast, Pacific Northwest, I mean, I remember Frank Broyles and Keith Jackson doing some play by play, occasionally see a Southern game. Sorry to date myself, but I watched the Pac 12 in the Big Big Ten and so Iowa is in. Iowa didn't spend any money. Purdue only spends on their own guys. Illinois spent a lot. So did Kentucky. They're not here. Here's Iowa's coach after moving to the Elite Eight. Maybe they should have seated us better. No, I'm just kidding. They seated us right where we should. I mean, yeah, I mean, I guess there's Cinderella. You know, we were so close in a lot of games and I don't like to use that. And we were right there. We just. And then we lost some games. We probably shouldn't have. Cinderella, whatever they want to call us. I mean, we're in the Elite Eight. That's. That's what they need to call us. Okay, so, yep, there's five teams from the Big Ten left. Could be six. But remember, Iowa beat Nebraska, so they beat another Big Ten program. So I think it's the time zones, it's the brands, it's the affluence. And the other thing is they got really good coaches right now. The Big Ten's got the most, probably the most good coaches. So the Dodgers opened the season last night, they beat Arizona 8 to 2, fell behind, and then had a couple of big four run innings. Dodgers owner Mark Walter came out yesterday and addressed, you know, the disparity in income. And he said, yeah, we need more parody, but I want to talk about something about baseball that doesn't get discussed a lot. And this is why I feel much more comfortable with a baseball dynasty than I do in the NBA. Baseball has a randomness that football and basketball do not. Michael Jordan did not have a series where he just couldn't score. Yet Ohtani in the playoffs against the Phillies, the best player in baseball went 1 for 18. You also have pitching injuries over the course of a season. You don't have, you know, that many superstar injuries in the playoffs. Although last year, admittedly, Halliburton and Tatum got hurt. But a great example of the randomness in baseball is that the Toronto Blue Jays were awful last in the American League east. And then one year later, they not only got to the World series, they had 20 more hits in the World Series than the number one payroll dodgers. Paul Skeens, best pitcher in baseball, could not get out of the first inning last night. Aaron Judge, the best Yankee, was the only Yankee to not get on base in the first Yankee game. The best player by a mile. In fact, he had four strikeouts and five plate appearances. You don't see that in other sports. MJ didn't have a series where he couldn't Get a shot. You know, the KD warriors, didn't they go like 16 and one their first, you know, run through the playoffs? The Dodgers needed. And I went and looked this up this morning. The Dodgers last season had two elimination games against the Blue Jays. The year before, they had two elimination games against the Padres. They've been backed up against the wall in the World Series. The nlds, the Dodgers have gotten. They got breaks in the World Series. So in. In a basketball dynasty, there's not a ton of randomness. You gotta have. You gotta have a lot of wing defenders and two stars minimum, you know, and in football, if you don't have the right coach and quarterback, what are we talking about? You're not really a viable team. But in baseball, you can spend a lot of money like the Mets. They're not historically well run. And you can spend very little money like the Guardians and the brewers and make the playoffs. The lousy Angels last year. Think about this, the randomness of baseball. The lousy Angels last year went 60 against the Dodgers. Ohtani switches teams. Doesn't matter. Angels go 6 0. So you can talk all you want about the parody. Baseball's randomness to a large degree is their secret sauce. Is that you can. I mean, the Yankees still spend money. They still spend money. I don't think they always spend it wisely like Kentucky basketball, but they still spend money. Here was Dave Roberts yesterday as they go for three straight and trying to balance all the stars out in the locker room. We have a certain standard of excellence.
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And I think that even when you
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watch us, Colin, how we play the
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game, run the bases, play defense, it
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matters how we practice.
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I think the message as far as
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keep the blinders on, get the blinders on, look forward. I reference a greyhound. You know, when a greyhound's in a race, they're chasing the lure and they're
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not looking at who the competition is to the side.
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And I think that the lure is
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right there, that trophy. And we're chasing that trophy. And it doesn't matter who's beside us,
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who's behind us, who's chasing us.
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And I think it's just more of
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just keeping the focus on ourselves. So, J. Mac, you love your college basketball. I will tell you, I think the only team that feels like it can match up with Arizona right now does feel. I say Michigan, but Illinois has been blowing me away. I think Arizona is the best team left. Really close with Michigan. Now, Arizona does not take or make a lot of threes. Last night they didn't take many but they hit almost every time they shot. So Arizona is not a team necessarily that if you get ahead of them they can struggle to play catch up. Now they don't get behind very often but they don't shoot a lobby in their size and quickness. They're. I mean they're bench. They have bench guys that would start for other teams remaining like Arizona's depth of talent big. You know they spent some money a lot four different first round NBA guys. Do you think they're the over? I still think Michigan matches up with Arizona. My guess is I take still take. I have Michigan winning it. I would take Michigan over Arizona but you could talk me into Arizona pretty quickly.
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Yeah, we would love to get that game right. Big matchup of a bunch of studs. I do think the Arizona backcourt is just unbelievable. The senior defensive player of the year in the Big 12 and then the freshman Burries. Who's getting compared to SGA? I mean they're stacked, they looked amazing. But Colin, that Iowa game. How, how, how crazy is it that Nebraska was in the two best games of the tournament? Nebraska, Vanderbilt and Nebraska Iowa. I mean Iowa didn't leave. They trailed for 38 minutes and then unbelievably come through at the end. I don't think I've ever seen like a pivotal play where a team only had four guys on the court. That was crazy how there was just a breakdown out of the timeout for Nebraska. Iowa gets the dunk and it's game over. That, that game was unbelievable.
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Texas fans aren't happy because it looked like an over the back but Texas had more than their fair share of opportunity. Texas could not make stops. They could make free throws.
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12 of 21.
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I don't have a lot of sympathy. You got to hit your free throws. And again I thought the Texas offense in the first half it was looked was great. They just couldn't make any stops.
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So there we go. Tonight's going to be an all timer. You get Izzo against Hurley, Michigan State against Yukon.
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Who's who picking that one and Yukon.
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I don't. I don't have a strong vibe. I like Iowa State. I like Michigan. I think St. John's and the points is a really interesting bet. I think that's got upset potential. St. John's yeah.
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That's a good call by you.
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Get your financial portfolio game ready by downloading the Webull app today or visiting webull.com Webull Financial LLC member SIPC FINRA Investing involves risk for more information, visit webull.com disclosures so I'm reading an article this morning. Is hating Duke basketball falling out of style? No, they're no longer a threat or a perceived threat. The article says. Well, you know Coach K is not around anymore. He could be very irritating. I covered UNLV's teams when they played Duke in those back to back championship years. Nobody was nicer to Jerry Tarkanian than Mike Krzyzewski. Totally classy, very complimentary. I've never hated Duke because I like favorites over underdogs. I don't buy into that mythology of the underdog that everybody likes some TV rating show. They don't. People say a lot of things. I'm going to go to the gym, I'm going to work out this year and by March 15th you don't go. So I don't listen to what people say. I Watch what people do when Duke's on. The ratings are huge. And it's not because Duke has a lot of graduates. It's a small private school. It's a classy organization. Here's why people don't hate them. Because they have their longest tidal drought since the 90s and you're not threatened by them. You ever notice the polarizing teams are the ones that win it all? Find me the beloved dynasty. Everybody finds a reason to hate a dynasty for various reasons. They're cheaters, they're obnoxious. Find me the beloved dynasty. And don't tell me MJ's bulls because they didn't like him in Philly, Boston, Detroit, Los Angeles, Cleveland or Seattle. They didn't like him everywhere. We worshiped MJ because he was cool and had style and was the best player we'd ever seen. The only dynasty that I think most people were all in on was the Tiger woods dynasty. But he wasn't representing a city. He wasn't wearing a jersey, just a red polo shirt on Sundays. And team sports get very provincial, very regional and very tribal. So I don't get the Duke hate. It comes from jealousy. They don't have NCAA issues, they're above board. Well, they've got money. They're a small, rich, private school. You know, they, they, you know, the floor slapping, blah, blah, blah, everybody can. And yesterday we had Carlos Boozer on, who was an All American at Duke and he's got two kids playing on the team. And, you know, most of the time, you know, people ask me sometimes in this business or any business, like, why do you think this person's successful and that person's successful. And my take is, well, Belichick and Andy Reid and Sean McBay. And Sean McBay. Peyton are just smarter than most other coaches. Smart wins. And you know, classic example is Kentucky can run through coaches and Carolina can run through coaches. And I mean, let's be honest about Duke. This happens very infrequently where you lose an all time legend. I mean, Bobby Knight leaves Indiana. It's a football school. A lot of these programs, you lose a legend, football or basketball, collegiately, and it's over. You like, I mean, it took, it took UConn a while Calhoun to get the Dan Hurley right. So I asked Boozer, whose two kids are now for the, you know, Duke thoughts on John Shire? He's got the best recruiting class three out of the last four years, the best player in college basketball the last two years for sure. And he's been able to Implement and put his fingerprints on the program. Do it his way. Bring in his staff with his style. And I just think that it goes to some of his basketball genius on how good of a coach he is to have. But think about this. You lose your entire starting five to the NBA a year ago and you come back this year and you're arguably having maybe even a better season. Yeah, I think a lot of Duke is. They're smart. I mean, think about all the college basketball programs. Jim Boeheim leaves Syracuse. They are unwatchable. Duke loses. Maybe the best coach ever collegiately. Coach K. They're still great. Had some injuries to overcome. Still great. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
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This is the Herd line news. Love your college basketball takes. I'm loving that you like college basketball, Colin. And I know you were watching last night, Purdue against Texas. The big tip in by tkr Trakov and Ren. I know people want to shove and over the back. I didn't think it was egregious. It looked like the Texas player just got too low.
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And also. Are you going to call it there?
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Unlikely.
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You know, I just think that's one of those. We've talked about this before. Hail Marion football. They never call pass interference. Guys are grabbing and pushing on a play like that. Referees want to get out of the way there. It's sort of. I mean, in fact, if I was a coach, I would say, guys, you can bump a little bit on final shots. The referees do not want to call it. Be aggressive. And Purdue was aggressively attacking the rim and they win.
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Yeah, I know people are excited for the Purdue win. I got some Boilermakers buddies that they love. Braden Smith, Colin. This team had one guy go four for eight from three. The rest of the team on Purdue, zero for 12. Yeah, I mean, I think. I know this is going to be. I think they're just tired. Remember they had that Big Ten run. It was like, I think four games in four days.
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And they look drained. Braden Smith can't make shots now they're,
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you know, Texas didn't have their seven footer in.
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Now who's not a great rebounder? But that in the end, that was, you know, a little bit of a coaching negligence. You know, they got that again, you don't want to beat up coaches. Rick Pitino said it. You win as many as you lose in these last meet. St. John's won a buzzer beater against, you know, against Kansas. The winning basket was for a guy that hadn't I don't think he had scored.
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Yeah, yeah. So there's a. Again, there's a little bit on the final whistle, final play of the game. Be aggressive, attack the rim. Probably not going to call it. I just think situationally, no ref wants to call that.
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Yeah, it's just a tough spot. Now let me ask you, we watched Arizona later in the night, just a obliterate Arkansas. Arkansas has no defense.
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Arizona faces Purdue next. And I know some people want to make the case for Purdue. Some of the analytics models have this. Only Arizona by 4, but the line opened Arizona by 6. I don't think it's a great matchup. The guy who had the tip in for Purdue, he's. He's going to be like a 12 year player in Europe, make a lot of money. He's going up against an NBA frontline in Arizona.
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No, I think I liked Purdue in that game last night. By the way, I like Purdue. I liked Iowa. I was shocked how effective Illinois was. Illinois, I mean, because I watched them. I only watched Illinois twice this year and I was telling the staff this morning, they got beat both times by Michigan.
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I remember the Michigan game. They got so.
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And by the way, you knew Illinois was good when you watched them because they were big. They've got a really good coach. But it's like, you know, some of these teams, it's matchup based and I don't think Purdue is a good matchup for Arizona.
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Anyways, good, good win for Purdue. All right, let's move on to the Iowa Nebraska game. I was obsessed with this. We have Iowa, as you know, if you watch this play. Colin, Nebraska only had four players on the court. There's a minute left in a three point game and their coach, the other player like sprints off the bench. I don't know how that happens. I do love Fred Hoiberg. You know, he seems like a great guy. He's a legendary college basketball player. Colin, his argument about what happened here is pretty terrible. Take a listen.
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Were the officials supposed to hold the ball before the ball was a good question, Robin. I've never been in a situation like that. I know they always count to make sure there's not six. I don't know the rule on that with, with four. But yeah, I mean, again, it was a miscommunication and, you know, unfortunately happened. But, you know, as far as the rule, I've never been a part of anything like that. So.
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So, Colin, I mean, listen, Hoiberg's played more basketball, knows more about hoops than I ever will. But the referees should count how many players on the court. What? That's not their job. That's on the coach and the staff. This is just an egregious error. Have, have you ever seen anything like that?
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Well, not in that situation, no. You know, listen, I feel, you know, Nebraska wasn't going to win it. I feel bad for him. But you know, it's just this stuff is Hoiberg's a good coach. They've had an, I mean, they've had a great year. Nebraska. We've never talked about Nebraska basketball. They've done an incredible. And again, they're a school. I don't think they spent a lot of money. They were near the bottom with Iowa in spending. So, you know, you win a couple of games in the tournament and you're, you're one of the small spenders. You deserve credit.
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Yeah, major credit. Started the season 20 and oh, they spent money on girls women's volleyball at Nebraska. They're an unbelievable juggernaut. I know this because my, my daughter plays volleyball. Anyways, final story. Colin, let's go to the NFL. Now. This, this was kind of an under the radar story yesterday. So the Browns, they restructured Miles Garrett's trade and Brown's fans are looking into it and they're like, wait, what exactly is going on going on here with this contract? Miles Garrett's contract gets restructured and some of these capologists are like, wait a minute. Based on this, it almost feels like the Browns are going to be trading Miles Garrett. His contract now makes him tradable. There's a lot with the dead cap. I don't, I don't want to get too much into the minutia. We can if you want. But the big story here is all of a sudden Myles Garrett could be traded. Time out.
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Timeout. Why would you trade him when you're not paying Shadow or Sanders, your quarterback, anything. And you, if you draft another quarterback, you won't be paying him for four years. So you have a five year half decade run of not paying your quarterback and you have the best football player in the league at his position. Why? It's what I said about Max Crosby. The Raiders have no veteran like soul of the locker room guys. Why? They're going to get 10 draft picks. Keep Max Crosby Why would I get rid of the best player in his position? It'd be one thing if I was paying my quarterback. My quarterback was Caleb Williams in three years, and I'm paying him 65 million a year, then we can have a discussion. You're not. Who are they paying on this? They're not paying a star receiver. They're not paying a quarterback. They're their best. Didn't Njoku leave? So now they have that young tight end from Bowling Green. So they're not paying him. Who are they paying?
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Well, Colin, remember yesterday I mentioned teams tanking. Okay, people don't want to hear this. The Cleveland Browns know Miles Garrett requested a trade last year. He wants to go play for a contender just like Crosby. The Browns are going nowhere. If you're selling at the top of Myles Garrett, he just broke the sack record. What can you get for him?
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Jalen Waddle got a first, a third, a fifth. Myles Garrett is two first, and then I think Miles Garrett, you could get two firsts. And like a starting, you know, like a starting right tack. You're not getting a left tackle, but like a starting center. A starting right tackle, maybe.
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Yeah. So. And a lot of, you know, our producers, the staff, they're saying Miles Garrett has. Has said, like, nothing since the new coach hiring Todd Bunkton. Very quiet and, you know, behind the scenes to restructure this contract is, like, interesting. Colin, I think it makes a ton of sense to sell high on Myles Garrett just broke the sack record. You're not winning anything with him next year. Get him off the books, bring in multiple picks. Next year's quarterback class. We're starting to see stories pop up about how it's like eight or nine potentially deep. I'm just.
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I don't. I don't think you ever want to move off the best player in the world at a position now. Now the best player in the world at guard. The Chiefs moved off Joe Tierney. That's different. But I mean, even the best center. I would not have let Tyler Linderbaum go if I was the Ravens. Like, I wouldn't let Creed Humphrey go if I was the Chiefs. So I would. I'm just saying, if I was a GM and I wasn't paying my quarterback, I'll give you credit. I. I think this is. This sounds. If they move him, that is deliberately seeking the number one pick because you can't tank in football. You've got to. It's just physically you can just not.
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You can not make a quarterback a priority. And then you, you stink. But if you're Josh Allen and you see this news, are you instantly calling Bean and being like, bro, can we just fricking get Miles Garrett, please? Can you just go get him?
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Well, then Josh, I don't care about picks. The next few years, Josh would have to do. They'd have to restructure Josh's contract.
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Well, maybe he'll want. And you know, Jerry Jones sees that and the bat signal goes up. Oh, that's, that's my music, baby. Can I give up three picks like people go crazy.
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Yep. J. Macleanoos. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd. Now I'm, I'm going to tread lightly here because J. Mac is going to get into his feels. So Luka Dontich has had a great last couple of weeks. And I saw the headline today. Luka Doncic is on a scoring tear, the likes of which we've not seen since Michael Jordan. If you go look at this latest group of teams that he's rolled against, Pacers, Pistons, Magic, Heat, Rockets, twice. Is there anything they have in common? I think there is. If Luca doesn't have a star scoring guard that he would have to guard in a game and he can concentrate on offense, he's money. Houston doesn't amend. Thompson's not a skilled offensive player. Pacers don't. Miami Heat's best player is. Bam. A big. I think what you're going to see, and I've said this before, Luca is wonderful in the regular season, but if you look at the west, what are teams going to do to Luka Dontich? Minnesota last year, make him go guard Ant. Okay, so Luke is the number one usage rate player in the league. That means he's got the ball a lot. We've seen guys like that wear down in the playoffs. Remember this? The last guy who led the NBA in usage rate and won a championship, Michael Jordan, 28 years ago. It's really hard to do. And Jordan was. I mean, Jordan was playing 36 holes between games. Michael Jordan's physiology is just hard to explain. I mean, I remember when he went to minor league baseball, he'd go to the South. He's like in Birmingham, he's putting on one of those dark sweatsuits and batting practice for hours until there were blisters on his hands. And then he would go out and play. Jordan's ability, his relentless ability to just have energy. An entire season, I've never seen Anything like it. Charles Barkley's like, I'd play golf, Michael play 36 holes. And then there'd be a playoff game. So that's not Luca. Luka's not in Michael Jordan shape. So if you go look at the west, it's going to be fascinating because sga, Oklahoma City is going to go, okay, sga, hunt him. Minnesota is going to go ant hunt him. San Antonio, Stefan Castle or you know, Dylan Harper, hunt him. So the three and Denver, by the way, Jamal Murray, we're going to hunt Luca. So the four teams that give the Lakers trouble in the west all have a guard or an assignment, a wing player that Luca is going to have to defend at some point. And those teams are going to make sure Luka and his number one usage rate has to guard those players. And what does it mean between usage rate and having to play on the defensive end? You're not the same offensive player. Go look at a lot of Luca's biggest nights. And again, regular season, not postseason. But Detroit. Kate Cunningham's out. He doesn't have a big defensive assignment. Rockets. Well, Shen Goon, Kevin Durant, those aren't his guys. And Amen Thompson's not a great offensive player. The Miami Heat again, Bam. So that's, that's the advantage with Luca. These usage rate guys in the playoffs historically struggle, but in the west, and this is why I think the Lakers are so fascinating, the teams above them have star players, often the best player on a team that Luke is going to be asked at least to some degree to score. I mean, good God, folks, when they played the Pacers. The Indiana Pacers are the worst team in the league in their tanking players that Luca guarded in that game shot 70%. 13 of 19. So again, when Luca plays teams without elite scores, we talk about his offense. Mark my word, we get to mid May, that's when the Luca questions are going to happen. And it would be different if the Lakers had a great rim protector. But you beat Luca, it's a pathway to the basket because deandre Ayden can't guard the camera in this studio. So J. Mack, I know I'm going to go.
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That Pacer stat is crazy. You said 13 or 1913. It was the final game of a six game road trip. The Lakers played no defense, gave up like a buck 30, 130 points. I'll excuse that. I do think your point about hunting Luka is interesting. But if you noticed, Redick has done a lot of gimmicky zones. He's tinkered with a lot of zone in the second half of the season during this Lakers hot streak. Yeah, I don't know if the zone will be usable in the playoffs.
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Yeah, I don't think you can. I think there's too. I think the teams that you play make it very hard to do that. Yeah, I listen everybody knows the whole story on Luca usage rate. I mean if you go look at the history of Luke in the playoffs, teams go after him and force him to defend. And so if you don't have somebody that he really has to defend, he can cheat. He gets to save his energy for the offensive end. Houston Heat, Detroit. Without Cade Cunningham, the problem is SGA and Dylan Harper, de' Aaron Fox, Stefan Castle, Jamal Murray, they're going to make sure Luca has to be on the hip of those guys and that Luka Doncic has the highest career usage rate of all time. Yeah.
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Now he has gone to the conference finals with Dallas and then he went to the NBA finals with Dallas. This idea that they're going to attack him, I think he's ready for it now that it would be nice to have a rim protector. You know, deandre Ayton can't jump over a phone book or defend a light in your studio. So that's a problem.
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Yeah.
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But I do think ultimately, you know, Lakers cruise in round one. Round two is the tough one. I'd rather face the Thunder than the Spurs. I don't want to see the spurs one. Benyama. No, thank you.
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football, we got your fix. The United Football League returns with a new season of pro football in the spring. UFL Kickoff Weekend starts tonight at 8 Eastern and continues tomorrow at 4 on Fox. And Rick Neuheisel, the new head coach of the Dallas Renegades, will be joining the herd live in 20 minutes.
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One of the things that frustrates a lot of people, myself included, about the media is they bring up things that nobody really cares about. Watch out for this. This is a problem and nobody really thinks it's a problem. I think one of that, one of those examples would be like occasionally yelling at a player. I played in high school sports. Every coach, I think, in our conference was a screamer and they were fine. You know, what is coaching other than taking you to a place you can't get to by yourself? That's what coaching is. So Tom Izzo is loud. He uses volume. And he addressed it this week. I don't give a damn. I don't. But I tell you what, I don't have many players that leave. I don't have many players that don't come back. So somebody must enjoy something. Accountability is going to be big till I leave that bothersome people. God bless them. I love it. So I mean, to me, gentle parenting or negotiating with your kids, good luck with that. I don't think it works. I mean, they did a study in 2022, they did a study and they found that children raised with authoritative parenting styles achieve more academically. And similarly, on another study, they discovered that a lack of like, authoritative parenting, like sometimes parents say because I'm the parent, the parents that didn't parent like that, the children. The number one factor in low life satisfaction was not having a parent who directed traffic. That's I mean, I'm just going back to my life in college and high school. My favorite teachers occasionally barked. I needed to be barked at. I wasn't always this likable. Here's, here's Dan Hurley talking about tough coaching. Yeah, I just think that's, you know, society we've got soft in a lot of ways. I think with, you know, trying to develop young people. I think young people, the teachers and coaches that impact their lives the most or not the teachers and coaches that like, gave Them a grade they didn't deserve.
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I mean, you remember the teachers and
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coaches that pushed you to your maximum, you know, that pushed you beyond your comfort level, that got the most out of you, that English teacher that you know, made you do the work and the tests were hard and you had to study hard and just think the same thing applies to, to coaching. Yeah. And people say, well, what about Bob Knight? Yeah, he went over the line all the time that most coaches don't do that. And for the record, Jay Wright is not a yeller and screamer. Hurley yells at officials way more than his players. Krzyzewski yelled at both. Some guys Izzo get, you know, he, he barks at both. But I, I've never heard a player say he hates Tom Izzo. I really don't. And again, I had yellers and screamers and kids know they're not yelling and screaming to yell and scream. And a lot of these high volume coaches, they're the ones remaining. So remember, this is not the NBA playoffs. You don't have seven games. You've got basically a timeout, a 10 second moment with a kid or a brief halftime. You know, you don't have seven games to massage your message. You got to get stuff solved fast. And so this is one of those things that it's just sort of understood that Nick Saban barked, Clay Helton at USC did not. And that was one of the knocks is that the program kind of lacked an urgency. A lot of these guys who are nice guys, I mean, I was talking about this to somebody the other day about coaching and I said, you know, you need a little, you need about 10% of jerk sometimes, sometimes it's, you gotta say stuff that's hard on kids. They're fine, they're malleable, you know. So last night and we told you yesterday on the show, we said, arkansas versus Arizona. I like Arizona, but I said it's going to be wild and fun to watch. Darius, a cliff for Arkansas is going to be a big score in the NBA. You know, he's not a great defender. But you know how when I say to you, great NBA defender, can you name 10, take out Wemby, name 10. There's not 10 great NBA defenders. So it's an offensive league. 70, 30. Now I think Wemby is so good historically that that carries his off offensive nights and he would be my mvp. But I, Darius Acuff is phenomenal player. Catch and shoot, drive and shoot, excellent passer. He's got the, he's got everything. He's small. You know, listed at 6:3, he's probably closer to 6:1 and a half. But he's electric. He's got to be a really good NBA player. But last night, there's only so much you can do. Arizona is one of those teams, and that was the worst loss for John Calipari in the history of the tournament for him. And this Arkansas team's good. And Calipari's done a great job everywhere he's gone in increasing personnel and commitment. Arkansas is a good team, but I mean, Arizona, I mean, the only shortcoming is they don't shoot and make a lot of threes. But last night they shot like eight and they made like six. So that's a. Arizona is not maybe built to come from way behind, but they don't really fall way behind. And here's Calipari on what he watched. Arizona is really good. And if they shoot the ball that way and do the things they did today, wow. But that was a hard one, you know, and they got us from right the beginning, we kind of kept it a little close, but they're good. Really good team. So in, in, in tournament history, something happened. Arizona had six players with 14 or more points. That is, that never happened, ever. Six guys with 14 plus points. So Arizona's got guys off the bench who could start for Arkansas, and Arkansas is good. So I think Michigan, to me, Michigan and Arizona, from what I've seen. And now Michigan is also a team that can be not great on the wings, they're about Mara and Lindenberg. They're about size. Arizona is about size and depth. So, you know, and, and let's be honest, you're all saying, Tommy Lloyd, he's going to take that Carolina job. Arizona has been good since like 83. They were awful. Lou Dolson took over and they were good. The first year of Lou Dolson, like, the first year they were good. They have been good for. I shouldn't say they were awful. They, they took over and if I recall, they were okay, but with loot, they, they won day one. So I have no idea why you would leave Arizona. Usually the way it works in college sports, the athletic department picks a side like Georgia and Penn State football. Duke in Arizona basketball, we're going to spend money on hoops. Here's their coach, Tommy Lloyd, on the nil. There's lots of reasons I took the Arizona job and one of them was kind of forecasting these changes happening because right, right when I was getting the job, the nil deal was rumored and then it started in July and I just, I figured Arizona is a place that has a pretty strong, long basketball tradition and, and they're going to be excited to invest in basketball. And we have. Yeah, it's Arizona's a great job. And Tucson, I mean, you know, basketball, a lot of winter basketball starts in, you know, October, November, December, January. Tucson's a pretty good place to live. In the summer, you can head to the hills. Whether you want to maximize your performance or form healthier habits this year, knowing what your body needs can help put you on the right path. With Quest, you can buy your own lab tests online@questhealth.com no doctor visit required for purchase. 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With Crystal Renee, we got reality with the king with Carlos King. And yes, drink champs will be in the building. Okay. Plus, you know, we're gonna have a lot of guests, so you need to join us. And. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace, the picture podcast, and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours@blackffect.com podcast festival. Don't play yourself. Okay, pull up. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is. My friend is much more famous than I am.
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I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co host of the podcast the Away. In with my old friend Daniel.
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On our podcast the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.
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