THE HERD - Hour 1 - The Dallas Cowboys are Must-See TV on Thanksgiving

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: The Dallas Cowboys are Must-See TV on Thanksgiving
Date: November 26, 2025

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Overview

In this Thanksgiving Eve episode, Colin Cowherd dives into why the Dallas Cowboys–Kansas City Chiefs game is must-see television, examining the Cowboys' transformation from a perennial tabloid team to a legitimate on-field juggernaut. Colin also explores NFL quarterback trends, evaluates controversial college football rankings, and debates coaching philosophies and aging in the NFL. Jason McIntyre joins for sharp banter and lively predictions, while NBA and Thanksgiving football storylines round out the hour.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dallas Cowboys: From Clickbait to Contender (04:00–10:45)

• Cowboys No Longer Just a Headline Team

  • Colin argues that, for the first time in years, the Cowboys deserve recognition for their impressive on-field performance:
    • Best offense in the NFL
    • Rising young offensive line; fourth fewest sacks given up
    • Two star receivers; top 10 run game
    • “They’re scoring on almost half of their drives... The best 2-minute offense in the league.” (Colin, 06:15)
    • Best field-goal kicker; Brandon Aubrey’s range changes their scoring threat calculus

• Defensive Transformation

  • Aggressive midseason trades (mentioning Kenny Clark, Quinnen Williams) have taken Dallas’s defense from “second worst” to “seventh best” over two weeks.
  • “Go ask Philadelphia, you can’t run on them now.” (Colin, 07:21)

• Quarterback Excellence

  • Dak Prescott: Pro Football Focus No. 2 QB, league’s best against the blitz
    • “It’s not Matt Stafford, it’s not Mahomes... it’s Dak Prescott.” (Colin, 07:58)
  • Dak’s own words on facing the Chiefs: “We’ve got the guys, we’ve got the plan, we’ve got the process intact... must-win games.” (Dak, via clip, 10:40)

• Prediction & Perspective

  • Colin, a self-admitted former Cowboys skeptic, says “You can’t hammer them now,” and notes the matchup with Kansas City finally feels evenly matched–especially since Dallas’s offense is better than KC’s “and it’s not particularly close.” (Colin, 10:45)

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2. Changing NFL Quarterback Evaluation: Mobility Versus Completion Percentage (10:50–12:55)

• Caleb Williams, Critiques, and Changing Metrics

  • Colin addresses criticism of college phenom Caleb Williams’ sub-60% completion rate, arguing:
    • Mobility is now “a requirement,” not a luxury, as offenses favor motion and improvisation
    • Recent league leaders in completion rate have zero playoff wins: “The days of Drew Brees–no, throw it downfield, lot of motion, get out of the pocket...” (Colin, 11:45)
    • C.J. Stroud as an example: Lower completion percentage but effective playoff performance

• Quoting RG3: Risks and Rewards

  • “Accuracy is a myth... it’s always dependent upon where the defense is and what you’re trying to get the receiver to do.” (RG3, quoted by Colin, 12:10)
  • Colin: “I’d like Caleb to get a little better, like 61%, but I’d be good there. I don’t need 65%.” (12:35)

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3. College Football Playoff Rankings & Evolving Traditions (16:50–23:40)

• Notre Dame vs. Miami Ranking Controversy

  • Miami is outraged at being ranked behind Notre Dame, who they beat, but Colin explains the playoff committee’s reasoning:
    • College football now “40% NFL”: players move in the portal, get NIL money, and ugly losses (like Miami’s to Louisville and SMU) are “highly punitive.”
    • “Ugly losses, highly punitive in college football rankings. They leave a stain.” (Colin, 18:42)
    • September (early games) matter far less in the new landscape: “September in college football, it matters a little more, but it doesn’t matter as much as it used to.” (Colin, 22:46)
    • Urban Meyer clip: “Since their two losses, I think [Notre Dame’s] certainly a better team. I’ve watched them a bunch... They didn’t look very good at the beginning. They look great now.” (Urban Meyer, 21:14)

• Call for Tradition Reset

  • Colin points out the traditionalist streak in college football fans, comparing their resistance to change to MLB purists on the pitch clock or defensive shifts.

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4. Thanksgiving NFL Slate & Key Matchups (23:40–32:10)

• Thanksgiving as Must-See TV

  • Jason McIntyre previews Thursday’s Bengals-Ravens game; strong focus on Joe Burrow’s competitiveness (“Burrow said sitting is not really an option.”).
    • “You grow up... you go and sit on the couch, and typically there’s not a lot on except football...” (Burrow, via clip, 24:07)

• Seattle/Minnesota, Darnold Revenge?

  • Discussion of Sam Darnold’s “revenge game” versus Minnesota; expectation that Seattle will dominate, especially with a rookie at QB for the Vikings.

• Quarterback Movement & Team Building Lessons

  • Colin’s takeaway on team-building after possible Sam Darnold blowout:
    • “The lesson is... if you have a quarterback who is in the MVP race, don’t let him leave the building. If he’s in his athletic prime...” (Colin, 27:19)

• Buffalo Bills WR Issues

  • With no WR on pace for 1,000 yards: “Josh Allen, at some point, can go in and be like, guys, you gotta get me dudes.” (Jason, 30:31)

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5. NFL Coaching Trends: The New Age Divide (32:10–37:55)

• Defensive vs. Offensive Coaches and Aging
  • Colin rails against the idea of hiring aging, defensive-minded head coaches (e.g., Belichick, Pete Carroll, Ron Rivera, Lovie Smith), arguing offensive coaches innovate and age better:
    • “Offensive coaches are creators and innovators. They’re more curious. Go look at any study: Curious people age better.” (Colin, 33:31)
    • “Those people [authoritarian, defensive types] don’t age as well in any industry. They don’t.” (Colin, 34:45)
    • If hiring defense, “go young, go current.”
    • On why Brady left New England: “There was a certain rigidity and he was just worn out from him.” (Colin, 36:23)

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6. NBA Quick Hits: Lakers, Clippers, and LA Stars (41:47–44:52)

• Kawhi Leonard & LA: A Personality Mismatch
  • Colin’s take: The Kawhi Leonard experiment is a disaster, particularly in an LA sports scene “all about personality.”
    • “If you want to be a quiet superstar, go play in San Antonio... Kauai in LA feels like wearing a cowboy hat in Manhattan.” (Colin, 42:17)
  • The Lakers, despite roster flaws, are entertaining: “The Lakers are fun, but this team has to make a move at the trade deadline.” (Colin, 43:10)

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7. Packers and Lions: A Thanksgiving Tradition Reconsidered (44:52–52:23)

• Green Bay’s Identity Shift

  • The Packers are winning differently; defense-led, bold moves:
    • “It’s just a different version of the Packers for the last 30 years.” (Colin, 47:02)
    • Jordan Love is playing “more like Favre than [Aaron] Rodgers.”
    • Pointing to defensive stats—best in a generation—and a rare first-round WR pick
  • Dan Campbell on Micah Parsons: “He’s a dynamic rusher. This guy plays hard, quick first step, powerful, quick. You have to stop this guy and he’ll just keep coming.” (Campbell, quoted, 48:45)

• Packers-Lions Game Preview

  • The Lions are favored, but Jason wonders if the Packers’ defense can shut down Detroit’s run game (“They ain’t sniffing [that yardage] against this Packers defense”). (Jason, 51:24)
  • Colin urges caution: The Lions may have been “looking ahead” and remain a top-10 defense at home (Colin, 51:25–52:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Cowboys' Emergence
  “For years I was a Cowboy critic... but you can’t hammer them now.” (Colin, 07:36)

• On Changing QB Requirements
  “Mobility is no longer a luxury, it’s a requirement.” (Colin, 11:12)

• RG3 on Accuracy
  “Accuracy is a myth. It's always dependent on where the defense is and what you're trying to get the receiver to do.” (RG3, quoted, 12:10)

• On College Football Modernization
  “College football is now about 40% NFL. It's a little like Ozempic... originally for diabetes, now it's a weight loss drug.” (Colin, 17:35)

• On Coaching & Aging
  “Curious, innovative people age better. That's why the old offensive coaches are having great success.” (Colin, 33:41)

• On LA Sports Personality
  “LA is a personality town... Kauai in LA feels like wearing a cowboy hat in Manhattan.” (Colin, 42:17)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:00–10:45 — Cowboys’ transformation; why Dallas-KC is a real game this year
• 10:50–12:55 — Caleb Williams, changing QB standards, and the myth of accuracy (RG3 quote)
• 16:50–23:40 — College football playoff controversy, Miami vs. Notre Dame, and modern realities
• 23:40–32:10 — Thanksgiving NFL matchups, QB movement, team-building philosophy
• 32:10–37:55 — Coaching trends: why aging defensive coaches falter and offensive minds thrive
• 41:47–44:52 — NBA: Lakers, Clippers, and why personality matters in LA sports
• 44:52–52:23 — Packers-Lions: New Green Bay identity, matchup preview, and defensive stats

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Tone & Style

Colin brings his signature blend of analytical depth, strong opinions, and cultural analogies (“It’s like wearing a cowboy hat in Manhattan”), while Jason McIntyre provides sharp, informed banter. The episode is fast-paced, engaging, and heavy on recent stats, league trends, and personality-driven insights—a digestible yet nuanced listen for sports fans.

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Transcript

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Kansas City and Dallas make it 45 million viewers. That's at 4:30 Eastern. And I was thinking about this this morning actually. It's the first time in a long time that I'd rather talk about the Cowboys on field product it's actually underrated. In previous years we talked about Mike McCarthy's job security. Micah Parsons Podcast Dax Contract no Cowboys offense number one in the NFL. The on field product it's good. Devonte Williams top 10 running back Dak PFF number two quarterback, two star receivers, one of the top third down offenses. The offensive line is young, getting better. Has surrendered the fourth fewest sacks, one of the better three and out teams, fifth fewest in the league. Think about that. And with the new kickoff rule and the field goal range of Brandon Aubrey, they're like two 12 yard plays from points. They're scoring on almost half of their drives. Add this, they're the best 2 minute offense in the league. Add this. You know the best quarterback in the league against the blitz. It's not Matt Stafford, it's not Josh Allen, it's not Patrick Mahomes, it's not Jared Goff, it's not Lamar Jackson. It's Dak Prescott. Great against the blitz, top three in pressures, running the ball, two star receivers, best field goal kicker in the sport. Made aggressive trades to solve their defense. Their defense was the second worst in the league. Then they made those Kenny Clark, Quinn and Williams deals. You know the last two weeks it's the seventh best defense and go ask Philadelphia. You can't run on them. For years I was a Cowboy critic and there's a lot of people in my business that you know they'll hammer Dallas because they know it gets clicks. I hammered Dallas because I thought they Were poorly run but you can't hammer them now and they may not beat Kansas city tomorrow. But two first round picks, aggressive trades, number one offense in the NFL best two minute drill, best against the blitz, top 10 run game. Offensive line not great in pass protection but emerging as a much better run. Offensive line. I know I didn't think shot number is going to work. I thought it was a week week higher. It's the best I've seen Dak in a long time. So Kansas City probably the better team. Home teams do very well on Thanksgiving. Either way I think Dallas against Kansas City tomorrow, it's a real game and I would not have said that a year ago. Right. Last five years, how many times Kansas City, Dallas. And you think you know Dallas could win this thing? Well, Dallas's offense right now is a lot better than Kansas City's and it's not particularly close. Here's Dak on facing the Chiefs. We got to win every game at this point and the Philly game doesn't mean anything right now. Nothing that's happened up to this point really means anything other than put us in the position to be must win games. We've got the guys, we've got the plan, we've got the process intact and we're going to give it our best and feel very confident in us. So speaking of quarterback, the Bears toughest game of the year at Philadelphia Eagles off a loss will be in a surly mood. This is something I've given a lot of thought and I talked about it for about a minute, 90 seconds yesterday at the end of the show. There's a lot of criticism from people on the Internet that don't like the fact that like Caleb Williams is completing like 59 and a half percent of his throws. And I've always said like the line is 62 and a half minimum. So this year you can look at some of these stats on a passer rating. Its completion percentage is very low. Here's some other numbers. Four no in November, eight touchdowns, no picks. And the Bears are the only team in the NFL to average 30 points a game and 400 total yards in November. I like those numbers. But here's the thing, what's happening and this is why I give this so much thought and this is my favorite part about sports, the constant changes. I talked about this the other day, that college basketball was unwatchable for 20 years and then about three years ago the nil and a lot of players staying for one more year. That would be second round picks and all that nil. Money buying Europe's some of their best 20 players. College basketball the last two years, excellent. The draft this year, the top three or four players are all stars. All of them. So, and here's the thing. What's happening with the NFL is that mobility is no longer a luxury, it's a requirement. Because right now the young offensive coaches are using motion double what they did 10 years ago. There's just more smart, clever offensive coaches. And I'm not saying you can run your way to a Super bowl at quarterback. Lamar Jackson's just struggled to win games in the playoffs. But it's like how I view college. I would recommend sending your kids to college, but the only thing in 2025 guaranteed about sending your kids to college, they'll come out of it with massive college debt. AI the phone, Google. There is so much information out there now that you don't have to sit through a college lecture and pay $74,000 a year to attain. I still think it's the place to go, but it's not the be all, end all. And that's how I look. About Caleb's completion percentage. Yeah, I'd like him right now. He's like 59 and a half. I'd like him to get up to 61 and a half. But do you know the last three quarterbacks to lead the NFL in completion percentage? Last three years, zero playoff wins, the days of Drew Brees? No. Throw it downfield. Lot of motion. Get out of the pocket. C.J. stroud, below average completion percentage. Last two years, he's won playoff games. So I know it matters. I understand that it matters to some degree. But we were talking about this this morning as a staff, is that I remember when I was younger, high school and college memorization was a really cool thing. I'd memorize the back of baseball cards. I'd memorize sports stats. And then Google happened. Sorry, It'd take me 30 seconds. I'll find the answer. So John Elway, he was ahead of the Curve. He won two Super Bowls. In both playoff runs, he completed 55% of his throws. So RG3 talked about this the other day. I would like Caleb to get a little better, like 61%, but I'd be good there. I don't need 65%. Here's RG3. Accuracy is a myth. All right. Accuracy to me is always dependent upon where the defense is and what you're trying to get the receiver to do. So where I think his 61% complete completion percentage comes from is More so the fact that he is willing to take more chances to have big plays occur, which drives down his completion percentage. Do you want a guy that's going to be a check down? Charlie, do you want a guy that is not going to take those risks deep down the field because he's afraid to make mistakes? I don't think that's who Caleb Williams is. Yeah, I, I, I don't think he is. Listen, it's great that Drake may can run and complete 71% of his throws at this point. Drake mates better than Caleb Williams and nobody's disag with that. But again, mobility is not a, it's not a luxury. It, it is a requirement. I mean, Jared Goff, that is, that is old school now and he's still in the prime of his career. That's old school. He doesn't move. I mean, Stafford's really old school. All right, JMac, we got a lot of stuff today. College football playoffs out. BYU's not happy. Miami's really mad. Bella, check rumors. They're interesting. Belichick rumor. I do not, but I do not buy the Belichick stuff at all. At all. And I'll explain why. But you went to the Lakers Clippers last night. How was Luka?

[Jason McIntyre]

Luka was phenomenal. You know, I think he had 24 points in the first quarter. He really hates the Clippers. Yeah, does not like them dating back to his days in Dallas. Was talking trash to them a lot. I noticed Kawhi Leonard. I don't know if anybody caught this. He like didn't play the final like six minutes, you know, weird close game afterward. He's talking about, well, we need more talent. We got to get the right rotations in. Clippers seem to be falling apart at the seams. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys. The Clippers. Now I do know some guys on the coaching staff. I don't want them to lose their jobs, but yeah, Kawhi James Harden feels like it's over.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jason McIntyre]

Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

College football is, you know, mostly still college football, but not entirely. Yes, head to head matters in the NFL. It's a tiebreaker. Nobody's saying it doesn't matter, but it's not that big of a deal and you don't need it very often. And yes, Miami's 9 and 2 and Notre Dame's 9 and 2, and Miami beat them in August, which, by the way, in August, Arch Manning was the number one player in college football in August. James Franklin's Penn State Nittany Lions were, weren't they first or second in August. J.J. mcCarthy was still good. August in Miami comes down to the end. CJ Carr's first start and Miami at home. And home matters a lot more in college than pro. They narrowly win, but Miami's also got two really ugly losses. One of them to unrank Louisville. Louisville. And you know this, and I know this. Ugly losses, highly punitive in college football rankings. They leave a stain. Everybody loses to good teams. Notre Dame lost to a couple good teams that nobody holds it against you if you're Notre Dame losing to like, you know, A and M or Miami. In fact, people will say, I appreciate them scheduling those games, right? The A and M, Notre Dame game. You get credit for scheduling Ohio State out of conference or Texas A and M. But where you get dinged is you lost unranked Louisville. You lost to smu. So again, I think it's close. I think Miami should worry about beating Pitt. I think Pete's got a. Pitt's got a chance to beat him. I think Notre Dame today is better. But I mean, I. My take on all this stuff is college football has the oldest audience. I think it now is as old as baseball's audience. And there's a lot of traditionalists. People are outraged when I suggest UFC and Notre Dame. What if they play every other year, every third year? That's outrageous. Not really. It's like baseball. People get all fired up with a pitch clock and defensive shift and get rid of this. And pitchers don't hit. It's not outrageous. It doesn't rise to that. I think Notre Dame's better than Miami. I think it's really close. I think Miami won in August at home in the first start for Notre Dame's quarterback. But I just think what we have to realize is head to head doesn't. It's not the be all, end all two ugly losses. I mean, think about last year. Alabama was really good at the end of the year, didn't get into the playoff. Why that ugly loss to Vandy? You were watching it. I was watching it. You're like, alabama's losing badly to Vandy. You couldn't unsee it. It's one thing to lose to Oklahoma, which they did. It's another to lose to Vandy. Regardless of how good you think the Vandy coach is, here's Urban Meyer on Notre Dame. Since their two losses, I think they're certainly a better team. I've watched them a bunch. I love their coach. I watch them for a lot of reasons. Chris Ash worked for me on defense. They didn't look very good at the beginning. They look great. So does competition. Yeah, they played and we called that. I mean, the members of our big noon and I think you might have called it after week two, said they're going to be in the playoffs. And when the rest of. When you looked at their schedule, they're better than everybody. They played. So for the Miami fans who say, hey, we beat them in August, here was college football's AP top rankings after week one. In September, Penn State was number two. They fired their coach. LSU was number three. They fired their coach. Miami was number five. They've lost a Louisville and smu. So just like the NFL, nobody gets too worked up about Labor Day. First three weeks of the year. Belichick was never a great September coach. Sean Payton's a.500 coach in September. College football going forward, we're just not going to take September that seriously. With the nil and all the transfer portal. These teams are brand new. You got nine different starters on offense and defense. I just can't take. I don't. I mean, Texas, Ohio State. I said as long as it's close. And it was. I don't really care who wins and loses. It doesn't matter. Ohio State last year lost to Oregon early in Michigan late and they won the national championship. So September in the NFL is fun. It doesn't really matter. September in college football, it matters a little more, but it doesn't matter as much as it used to. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news.

[Jason McIntyre]

This is the Herd line news. All right, Colin, the Thanksgiving slate is exciting and Joe Burrow is back of the nightcap Bengals at the Ravens. Very fired up for it. Bengals released some goofy video on social media getting all hyped. Burrow said sitting is not really an option. If he, if he's healthy, he wants to play and here he is talking about how big a game it is to play on Thanksgiving day.

[Colin Cowherd]

You grow up going through Thanksgiving, you have your meals with your family and.

[Riley (Producer)]

Then you go and sit on the.

[Colin Cowherd]

Couch and typically there's not a lot on except football. Back in the day it was Lions and somebody.

[Riley (Producer)]

You go watch Matthew Stafford throw for 300, 400 some yards with Calvin Johnson and probably lose the game.

[Jason McIntyre]

What is Joe Burrow that young? Wow. You see the, the Ravens are seven point favorites at home in this one. I don't know, man. I know I got some crazy numbers on big favorites on Thanksgiving. They dominate. I don't think the Ravens dominate here. I don't know if they can dominate. I mean, there's some numbers saying this is Lamar Jackson's worst three game stretch of his career since his, since that first year that he took over a starter. So I don't know. I'm excited to see Burrow. He does not have T. Higgins out with a concussion, but he has Jamar Chase and Chase historically has owned the Ravens. So this should be a good one, Colin.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right.

[Jason McIntyre]

Okay, let's move on to Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold was very, very bad a couple of weeks ago. Four interceptions, right? Well, how about this one? He's now facing the Vikings.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh boy.

[Jason McIntyre]

This is a huge revenge spot for Darnold. 11 1/2 point favorites and Vikings DC Brian Flores knows Darnold well and you know, he has some plans on how to defend him.

[Colin Cowherd]

He did a lot of great things.

[Riley (Producer)]

He's here and clearly those things are continuing to show up for him out there in Seattle.

[Colin Cowherd]

He's doing a great job.

[Riley (Producer)]

I'm happy for him. But we will blitz him this week, that's for sure.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, the, the line is moved. I thought it was one of the. I, I thought it was the best line on the board when it was nine and a half, ten. I still think at eleven and a half, Seattle's the side. I, I think Seattle right now, they're going to start maybe a rookie for Minnesota. It's, it's going to be ugly. Seattle, by the way, you know they're going to play well because they had that game against Jacksonville. They dominate the first half and then the defense doesn't really show up in the second half. So it's. Sean Payton always says the best weeks of practice are when you win ugly because you can really coach your team hard. So I like Seattle comfortably in this one.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. So you mentioned they're starting the rookie. His name is Max Brosmer. If you look up a picture of this guy, he's got the facial hair of like a mid century French artist. He can't grow like a real goatee. It could be like a Bond villain. I, I don't think he has any chance going into Seattle. I know Kevin OConnell, we like him a lot. But there is a second layer to the story. Colin. Let's say Darnold says, I want revenge on the, on the Vikings for not.

[Colin Cowherd]

They're not taking the foot off the gas.

[Jason McIntyre]

Exactly. What if this is a 48 to 10 bloodbath? Darnold throws for 305 touchdowns. Listen, I, I'm a Kevin O' Connell defender, but at some point is there finger pointing in the organization? How did we screw this up this badly? JJ McCarthy's concussed, he's injured and he stinks. And Sam Darnold, maybe in the Super Bowl.

[Colin Cowherd]

What is the lesson learned from what they did? So we can point fingers and rip people, but in the end, in any industry, you have to go, okay, what did we learn? What you learn is if you have a quarterback who is in the MVP race, don't let him leave the building. If he's in his athletic prime. I mean that, that's the moral to the story is you say, well, the, the Rams did with Jared Goff. No, they brought Matt Stafford in. But if you have a Pro bowl level quarterback who is in his prime and Sam was, and you could have gotten a deal that was below market rate, you don't let him leave. I mean this is a quarterback league more now than. Well, it's easy to say no to. It's very easy. You do not let an athletic quarterback in his prime out of the building. If you do not know, remember they didn't give up six ones for McCarthy. They give up a four and a five. They gave up nothing. They gave him two average picks.

[Jason McIntyre]

So if this were a court case, you would be, you would be booted off the jury because you're too close to the story. Like you like Darnold a lot. I get it. But Colin, he was good last year and then at the end of the season he face planted and everybody knows, what have you done for me lately? They looked at Darnold. Have we hit our ceiling? We're not going to win 14 games. It was a little lucky and I kind of understand moving on. They loved McCarthy.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, no, no. They, they didn't love McCarthy. My source told me they had concerns with McCarthy the minute he arrived.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, but that's after drafting him, like.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right, right. But that you still had time. I mean, he's been in the building two years. They, they, they knew what they had with J.J. mcCarthy. They knew there were confidence issues, physical issues. There was throws, nothing but a fastball issue. It's not like J.J. mcCarthy got drafted just an hour ago. J.J. mcCarthy's been around. He just had. He has potentially 28, 29 starts. He started like six, seven games.

[Jason McIntyre]

But taking him top 12, they saw something they liked, clearly. Right. I mean, to replace a guy who led you to a 14.3mark, like, they had to have some confidence in it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, they, I reportedly, I was told they tried to move up for somebody else, but it got too rich. And that's the problem. It was, you know, as you know, moving up for any player is dangerous. You, I mean, I, we both like Drake May a lot. I didn't think he'd be this good this fast. You don't know a lot of this stuff.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, it's risky. Final story, Colin, is the Buffalo Bills, they're on pace to have no receiver reach 1,000 yards for the second straight season. Guess what? They went out and added Brandon Cooks to the wide receiver room. Colin, I mean, we. How much do we talk about this in the off season? They did not get better on the outside. They could have done in free agency, they could have done it in the draft. Then they had a third chance at the deadline this year. They did nothing. And the GMs all combative about it. Well, guess what? They have now added Brandon Cooks. They're grasping at Gabe Davis. I mean, come on, give me a break. This is embarrassing. Remember, Dalton, first aid continues to be hurt. They're great tight end, like, I don't know what they're going to do. Josh Allen at some point can go in there and be like, guys, you got to get me dudes.

[Colin Cowherd]

So this does not make my blazing five and a half hour. It was the last game I dropped, okay? Now, last week I dropped the Dallas plus three and a half. That was a way better pick than the ones I went with. But I had Pittsburgh covering here. I think it's tough. Pittsburgh played very poorly, did not play good defense. They're going to play really well. It's going to be cold weather and I think Buffalo has shown its hand more than once. This Buffalo team is good. They're not very good. They're not great. They're. They're good.

[Jason McIntyre]

Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson just went up and down the field on the Steelers.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why?

[Jason McIntyre]

Why won't The Buffalo Bills do that with Josh Allen and James Cook because.

[Colin Cowherd]

The Chicago Bears have a better offensive line and a better run game and a better quarterback. Wait, wait, wait.

[Jason McIntyre]

Take that back. Come on. They do not have a better quarterback than the Buffalo Bills.

[Colin Cowherd]

Please don't say no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying that the Bears went up and down the field. The Bears are better than the Steelers.

[Jason McIntyre]

Oh, yeah, that's clear.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. But what I'm, what I'm saying is Pittsburgh, and we said this a month ago, it's the hardest team to figure out in the league. Week to week, you get a totally different team. I mean, honestly, great, terrible, bad. Beat the Colts, hammer the Seahawks, and then they can be awful. So when they play poorly or lose, they almost always, especially at home as an underdog, play really, really well. Pittsburgh may lose. I take the hook all day long.

[Jason McIntyre]

Interesting.

[Colin Cowherd]

J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.

[Jason McIntyre]

And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.

[Colin Cowherd]

So there is a head Carolina story that NFL teams are eyeing Bill Belichick. Okay, I would not hire Belichick. Go look at his Carolina staff, friends and family. Go look at his last New England staff retreads. I would not hire Belichick. But there's a bigger thing at play here. Pete Carroll, defensive coach, gets hired at 74. Raiders biggest mess in the league. Belichick's Patriots when He got to 70 years old. Embarrassing. Worst staff in the league. Older. Ron Rivera, Washington, nearly 60, hired by Washington mess. Lovey Smith, defensive coach hired in his 60s, lasted one year in Houston. But yet old offensive coaches. Sean Payton, 61, Andy Reid 67. Bruce Arians won a Super bowl at 68. Harbaugh's in his 60s. Why is that? Why do old defensive coaches, Pete Carroll and Belichick and Ron Rivera and Levy Smith. It's awful. And yet the league right now is being run by offensive coaches. Some young. But even the old offensive coaches are having great success. Why would that be? Because offensive coaches are creators and they're innovators. They're more curious. Go look at any study. Curious people age better. Offensive coaches spend an off season innovating, creating. Andy Reid will send me plays on the phone, won't tell me when he's used them. Who against? But that's what offensive coaches do. That's why so many of them are not all, but so many are good in September. Or offensive coaches are exceptional off a buy new tricks to show off. Offensive coaches age better. Curious, innovative people age better. So if you're going to hire a defensive coach. Chris Shula, Rams. Jesse Minner, Chargers. D', Amico, Ryan's, Mike McDonald, Jeff Halfley, the Green Bay guy. Go young. You see it time and time again. Older defensive coaches because what do defensive coaches teach? Brute force and aggression. Offensive coaches, creativity, ingenuity, innovation. That not only ages people better, it ages coaches better. Carolina, their offense last in the acc. By all means, let's bring them to pro football. So Mike Tomlin has not won a playoff game in his 50s. A lot of these defensive guys, it's about brute force and aggression and rigidity. They're authoritarian. Those people don't age as well in any industry. They don't. The offensive guys are creators and innovators and they're curious. Andy Reed, aging well. Bill Walsh, good later in life. Sean Payton, still money. Bruce Arians at 68. Like I I apparently the Giants do not have any interest in Belichick because they don't want Jordan Hudson and Belichick on the back page of the New York tabloids. Eric Mangini talked about that last week. If Bill Belichick had sat out a year, another year, and, and been available, I think this would have been a really interesting story and it could have gone full circle. And, and I that's not a great fit either because of his age and some of the personnel issues he's had. Yeah, I, I have been on this for a long time that I would hire offensive coaches over defensive coaches for a lot of reasons. One of them is the rules now. All lean offense. And the truth is quarterback has become more valuable in the league. So get the guys that have better relationships with quarterbacks. Right. The reason Brady left New England was because of Belichick. He couldn't draft players. He couldn't get offensive guys for him. And, you know, there was a certain rigidity and he was just worn out from him. Remember his wife in the documentary? He doesn't get respect, just at least give him respect. But hiring an old defensive coach in the NFL, Lovey Smith and Pete Carroll and old Bill Belichick and Ron Rivera, it's always the same. If you're going to go D, go young, go current blazing five, top of next hour. Actually, I, I don't do blazing fives usually on Thanksgiving because it's a weird, wonky week. But there's a lot of good numbers. I like the numbers. Live in Chicago, it's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific PCs powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors are made to go the distance with blazing fast performance, next level efficiency and multi day battery life. Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it all from highlight reel editing to intense player research so you can be at the top of your game wherever the day takes you. Learn [e-mail] laptops Snapdragon the heart of your PC. Battery life varies significantly based on device settings, usage and other factors.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jason McIntyre]

The greatest rivalry in sports is here. Top ranked defending national champion Ohio State heads to the Big House looking to snap Michigan's five game win streak. In the game, it all starts at 9am with a special three hour big noon kickoff live from Ann Arbor. Then it's Michigan, Ohio State at noon, only on five.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, so early NBA basketball. We addressed this yesterday. The pace of play in the NBA, the game is so much better, so much more athletic, so much more skilled, so much faster than years ago. So NBA stars and NBA players don't play any defense. Early last night, The Lakers shot 58%. The Clippers shot 52%. It was a defensive atrocity, but there were two takeaways and two takeaways. Laker Clippers number one. The Kawhi Leonard experiment has been a disaster. I mean, forget the fact that LA loves stars and personality and Riz, he's got none. I mean he's, I mean, Ohtani McVeigh, Freddie Freeman, LeBron and Luca. Look at the stars in LA. And then there's Kawhi Leonard. If you want to be a quiet superstar, go play in San Antonio. You and Tim Duncan were perfect. He's just, he has not sold tickets or merchants. I mean, Kauai in la, is it honest to God, it feels like wearing a cowboy hat in Manhattan, you can do it. I think there's a guy in Times Square in his underwear that wears a cowboy hat in Manhattan, but it feels weird. That just doesn't work. The second thing, and this isn't a criticism, it's a reality. The Lakers are dead last in the NBA in three point shooting and bench scoring and can't protect the rim. But they're really fun to watch because JJ Redick's an excellent offensive coach. Luke is the best offensive player in the world. Last night, Austin and Luka and LeBron. Now, it should be noted the Clippers and Jazz are terrible defensive teams. But just remember, happiness is linked to expectations. This has no bench, not shooting threes, below average defense, and atrocious defending the rim. This team has to make a move at the trade deadline, and I'm not sure what that move will be, but the people who now own the organization are really, really smart. But the Lakers are fun. But I want you to listen. I mean, my takeaway in this whole Kawhi thing is LA is a personality town. They like their, they like their teams to have personality. The Lakers are Showtime. Lakers, the Celtics on the other side of the country were tough and feisty. Big east basketball was tough and physical. And Pat Riley's Knicks were tough and physical. And the Detroit Pistons were the bad boys. La, Showtime. The fabulous Forum, Staples Center, Crypto arena, and here's who the Clippers, here's who the Clippers have as their centerpiece. What do you think's the difference with this group where it's been such a struggle to kind of sustain some of the blows you guys have taken early? Just gotta get the right lineups on the court, I guess. You know, get some more talent, play, play with better talent and see what happens. You say get, like, get more talent. Is that like internally, externally? I'm saying like playing better.

[Jason McIntyre]

Like we all just gotta play better.

[Colin Cowherd]

Make shots, move the ball a little bit more, trust one another and just get better 2. I mean, honestly, I mean, you got the hoodie on. Just put some dark shades on. I mean, it just, it just doesn't work. I'm sorry. It's, you know, if you live in Los Angeles, I mean, I guess the Clipper tickets are cheaper, but I mean, there's one team right now that's fun to watch and appears to have fun and they like each other and It's Luca, it's LeBron, it's Austin Reeves, it's Rui, even Deandre Ayton, who's Moody. He's. He's happy these days. All right, so a really interesting game. Green Bay is going to play the Detroit Lions. It's Fox tomorrow. It's the early game. So one of the things that's happened with Green Bay, last year at this time, Green Bay was 8 and 3 and felt very good about himself. This year, it's 7, 3 and 1, and nobody likes the Packers. The cheese heads are freaking out and a lot of the people freaking out with Green Bay. The reason they're freaking out is Green Bay is doing the opposite of the Steelers. They've pivoted. Number one, their defense is much better than their offense. That hasn't been the case in forever. Number two is they took a huge swing with a Micah Parsons deal. Packers don't do that. Number three, they haven't done this in 20 years. They took a wide receiver, a flashy player, in the first round. So they're doing things that Green Bay doesn't do. But they were 8 and 3 at this time last year. They're 7, 3 and 1 and nobody likes them. And I'm like, they even hired a college football head coach to run their defense. That's been a big hit. The MICA deal works. The wide receiver they drafted is good. Their defense is better than their offense. It's just a different version of the packers for the last 30 years. There's one team in professional football on the planet that always gets quarterback right. Little Green Bay, and they still got a good quarterback. I always think love plays more like far than he does. Aaron Rodgers, more of a let it rip. Sometimes you wince, sometimes it's a little cringe. But he's talented. But I think the. Everybody's getting worked up over Green Bay this year, and it's just a different Green Bay and they've pivoted. And, you know, I think it's vital in any business, even for us personally, to be current, stay ahead of stuff, know some tech, get rid of the rigidity, open up, be smart, try to see around corners. Green Bay is just different. And they're doing stuff they don't normally do and nobody knows how to react. Now, I like Detroit tomorrow, but it's not because I don't like Green Bay. It's because the Lions are excellent at home. Here's Dan Campbell on facing Micah Parsons. He's a dynamic player. He's a dynamic rusher. This Guy plays hard, he's got a quick first step. He's powerful, he's quick. You have to stop this guy and he, he'll just keep coming. So just to give you an example of how different this Green Bay team is from the last 25, 30 years, points per game allowed is 18, 18 in the NFL or excuse me, points per game allowed by the Packers, 18 points a game, that's their best in 15 years. Yards per game allowed, it's the best in 29 years. Yards and plays allowed best since 96. So usually green Bay's top numbers are all offensive. In fact, Aaron Rodgers had one really good defense and he won a Super Bowl. Right. So I, I, I think Green Bay is fine. It's a different version of Green Bay. Every data point tells you Jordan Love is good. They don't run the football nearly as well as they'd like to, but they pass it fine. I think the Tucker Craft injury is substantial. He is a looks like a 10 year Pro bowl type tight end to me. But they've still got Musgrave. They're still fine. Wide receiving group is very good. Here's the schedule for the weekend. We are doing a blazing five at the top. I actually think it's a decent weekend for lines and I do think the public is smarter than it's ever been. So it's hard to get good lines. The Seahawk line initially better than it is now. J. Mac, I always ask you. There's an upset every weekend. Give me look at your upset. Upset being four, four and a half points. I see one. I want to see if you pick.

[Jason McIntyre]

I know you're going to go with the Browns. That's fine.

[Colin Cowherd]

I am, I am.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. Not a huge shocker. Listen, it's not a bad bet. It better not be the Raiders. That's all I know. I'm heavy on the Chargers. You know, this is interesting. This Bengals Ravens game is kind of sort of fascinating and we'll do it in headlines later. There's a lot of stuff here that show that the Bengals are going to be able to play with them. And I know favorites, big favorites. By the way, unbelievable number for you, Colin, on Thanksgiving. Favorites of seven or more.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

25 and one straight up. Like they are dominant.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

However, against the spread it gets a little more condensed. This is a rivalry game. Is it up? Can I take the packers as my upset or no?

[Colin Cowherd]

I think that's, I think that's one of them. I like Detroit in that game because of the history of favorites. I mean Detroit had bad teams and often played really well on Thanksgiving.

[Jason McIntyre]

So Detroit, last week, remember, they played an overtime game well on Sunday against the Giants.

[Colin Cowherd]

How many snaps did they.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, Jameer Gibbs, I have that number for you. The New York Giants ran 77 plays, so their defense was on the field all afternoon. And they gave up 6.7 yards per play to Jameis Winston, Wondale Robinson and whoever is that else. Is that Motley Crue on the Giants? I don't love what I'm seeing from the Lions defense. They got some guys in the secondary banged up. Joseph's not 100%. Arnold is injured. That interior offensive line. Listen, the packers defense. Colin, I want to save some of this for headlines, but they're right there with the Texans defense and the Broncos. Statistically, like yards per play, rushing yards, defense. They're very, very good, but they don't get the acclaim. I don't think the Lions are going to be able to run the football like Gibbs went for 214 or whatever. He ain't sniffing that against his packers defense. You remember that season opener, the packers body bagged them.

[Colin Cowherd]

I would.

[Jason McIntyre]

Not even close.

[Colin Cowherd]

I would be very careful drawing a lot out of the New York Giants Lions game because I think Detroit was looking ahead to Green Bay. Great point. I think you're looking at Jameis Winston. It's hard to get the troops. I mean, last week Detroit was so bad defensively, yet this year they're top 10 defensively at home. They just were looking way ahead to Thanksgiving in Green Bay because that is a big. That, that is one of the bigger games of the year. The loser in that game has got to look themselves in the mirror. So you. I think you're taking more out of the Giants performance against the Lions defense than I am. I do believe you see this a lot. There are look ahead games in college football and occasionally in the NFL. I think Detroit's a much better defense than what we saw.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, they just haven't had a quality win since that Ravens win on Monday Night Football. Remember? Unless you count Tampa, which is a flaming dumpster fire right now.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, Blazing five is coming up. Plus Joel Klatt, Greg Cosell, J. Max got his picks Thanksgiving tomorrow. Hi to everybody watching at an airport somewhere in North America. It's the herd. PCs powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors are made to go the distance with blazing fast performance, next level efficiency and multi day battery life. Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it all from highlight reel editing to intense player research. So you can Be at the top of your game wherever the day takes you. Learn [e-mail] laptops Snapdragon the heart of your PC. Battery life varies significantly based on device settings, usage and other factors.

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[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Riley (Producer)]

So what are we doing today, Riley?

[Colin Cowherd]

Today we're playing a little game. Oh, I love games.

[Jason McIntyre]

Says the man.

[Colin Cowherd]

I bought special. Good for you guys from ebay. Each one picked with one of you in mind. Yeah, Dakota, if you want to guess. All right.

[Riley (Producer)]

There is a gift at my feet.

[Colin Cowherd]

Open that thing.

[Jason McIntyre]

And now it is in my hands.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, I feel like it's got to be our resident gamer kiosk.

[Jason McIntyre]

This is the rectangle of childhood. It's a portable game console. I used to have this as a kid. This game console. I used to play all the time. And you know when your mom came.

[Colin Cowherd]

Into the room when you're a kid.

[Jason McIntyre]

And, like, you're, like, pretending to sleep. Yeah, yeah. But, Riley, what a thoughtful gift.

[Riley (Producer)]

Yeah, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

Thank you so much, Riley. You're crushing it. But we have one more gift. Yeah, let's open it. Boom. Oh, camera. Yeah, an old timey camera.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Classic. This is awesome. Yeah, because you know how I love to take pictures of my travels. Yeah, you're always somewhere, whether it's in Kyrgyzstan with some nomads or just New York, you know, with a nice little piece of trash or a rat.

[Jason McIntyre]

Little nice old picture. I'm taking pictures with the birds, so.

[Riley (Producer)]

Right.

[Colin Cowherd]

You got all of this from ebay, dude, ebay.

[Jason McIntyre]

It was really fun finding it with you guys.

[Colin Cowherd]

I had very specific things for each one of you.

[Jason McIntyre]

It was all there.

[Colin Cowherd]

Thanks, Riley. And thank you. Ebay. And guys shop ebay for millions of finds, each with a story. EBay. Things people love.

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