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Hey, Denver Broncos. Your guy, Bonix.
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Yep. So in football and in life, drip, drip, drip. Like people don't wake up and just decide, let's get a divorce. There were signs. Companies don't go from great quarterly earnings to we're bankrupt. There are signs, warning signs, red flags, arguments. Philadelphia has been a leaky faucet. For five weeks. We've been talking about this Saquon Barkley, his production's been cut in half. The Lions have two running backs that are more productive than Saquon Barkley. They labor to get the ball to AJ Brown, an elite wide receiver. The offensive line used to be the best in the sport. Middle of the pack doesn't even look close to Detroit's now. So. And I've been preaching this for three years, Nick Ceriani is not a scheme guy. Okay? So he is very offensive coordinator dependent. All right, so when he has a great coordinator, he gets the Super Bowls. He hired Brian Johnson, didn't work circle the drain he missed on a coordinator, hired somebody in the building that had never called plays before, could be a good coach. But right now, at this moment in that coach's life, probably not the right fit with this veteran offense. And it just, it took a half. But Bo Nix, who's still a kid. Bo Nix has played, what, 22 starts in the NFL. He, he's going to have bad halves, he's going to have bad throws. But in that second half, Sean Payton, and this is what he does, maybe as good as any coach in this league. That second half, Sean Payton extracted every yard out of that offense. Two point conversions on the road, noisy crowd, everybody involved. Multiple receivers running the ball. Another very good Denver draft. All these guys can play. And Bo Nicks, that dude is athletic and he is fast. He used to hold the ball a little long last year. Bo Nix is, is seeing it and let it rip. So the better team the better coach and yes, the better quarterback by the second half of that game were on display. And this is nothing against Nick Sirianni, but he's got a stacked roster and don't even try to convince me. 45 yards rushing. The big plays are gone. They were a good big play team. They're done. They're. They're. They're 17th in the NFL in big plays with A.J. brown, Devonte Smith, Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts. They're seven. They're middle of the pack on big plays. Yards per play has tanked. Saquon Barkley's getting touched a yard into the carry, not two and a half. So this is not on the players. The players were great last year. What did they do, all eat Twinkies in the off season? Give me a break. It's a coordinator higher and that's okay. A lot of coaches in this league are not. Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan Thursday night goes out with backups everywhere and out coaches. Sean McVay, he's a scheme guy. Coordinators much less relevant to Kyle Shanahan. And it's not a knock on Sirianni, but that's not what he is. And so if he makes the wrong OC hire, this is not the same team. It's not the players, it's not the effort, it's not the toughness. Coaching matters. We've seen this more and more coordinating matters in this league. Second half of that game, Sean Payton put on a clinic. Bo Nix with 22 starts against Vic Fangio, one of the best defensive coordinators in the sport. Clinic up and down those last two drives. And here Sirianni after. I think that the guys have worked extremely hard in preparation. I see the same hunger that is. That was there prior to us winning the Super Bowl. So I don't think it's. It's anything like that. Again, just the name of this game is always going to come down to, you know, detail. And, you know, as far as us as coaches and players, we weren't detailed enough today, and they were a little more detailed than us. Okay, usually my second story on a Monday isn't about a blowout, but when Dak Prescott broke into this league, Zeke was a great running back. The O line, Tyron Smith, Zach Martin. It was the best online in a decade in the NFL. Dak got a lot of credit and didn't have to do a lot of heavy lifting. He had to babysit DEZ Bryant. That was about it. But he was a little overrated. Now, Dak, this Dak is not getting enough credit. They don't have a number one receiver currently. The offensive line is still in a rebuild mode. Running game, okay. Staff, fine. Defense last in the league. Okay. Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. It's like they've hit the 10,000 hour rule. Like they're just, I mean, they're all smart guys, but they have reached another level of football iq. And Dax, gone from a little overrated to now underappreciated. If I had an MVP vote today, I would vote probably Baker Mayfield 1 and Dak 2. I would give Baker it because he's won more games and he's won them late. But also, Baker Mayfield has the better general manager, the better rookie receiver. I think the overall roster in Tampa is much better than the Cowboys roster. But this, this Dak, right now, what you're seeing Dak Prescott do, this is the best stack I've ever seen. First of all, I think he's lost weight and gained strength. They're missing three offensive linemen. CD Lamb's a top five receiver. Doesn't have him. Running backs, kind of by committee, okay? Not special. And listen, Brian Schottenheimer deserves a lot of credit. We don't think he's Andy Reid or Sean Payton. So again, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm looking at MVP right now. And here's the other thing to remember about Dak, where he deserves a lot of credit. Everybody said when DEZ Bryant left, he was in trouble. Nope. When Zeke left, he's in trouble. Tyron Smith left. Micah left. The great Zach Martin. All these great players have left. And every time, as long as Dak Prescott is upright, the Cowboys win double digit games. I mean, let's be honest, sometimes it takes a long time. You got to read to the end of the book. Yeah. You ever read a mystery or a murder mystery, and you kind of figure it out by the fourth or fifth chapter and then the really great books. Like, all of a sudden you're like in chapter 1012, Dak, you got to peel this onion. You got to peel this. There was the a little overhyped Dak with a great O line and a great run game. And Jerry Jones at the time felt, you know, not quite as meddling. And then all of a sudden, it's Mike McCarthy and Dax actually putting up better numbers. And now McCarthy leaves Brian Schottenheimer, who nobody loved. CD Lamb is hurt. Mike is gone. It is a lot of C+ players, and they're still rebuilding this offensive line and Dak looks unbelievable. He was getting MVP chants in New York and he was asked about it after. I mean, my ears work. So I heard it, but I didn't hear it to your answer. It's week five. I don't care. I don't care if it was week 17. I've told y' all what I want to win the team goals right now. The success and the continued success is going to happen is just a beneficiary of all the guys in that locker room. Again, always says the right thing. He is a dropped pass against Philadelphia from being 31 and 1. Don't pay attention to the 22 and 1. He is playing next level. Remember, they tied Green Bay and I mean the way Green Bay was running the clock late in that game could have won it. They had Philadelphia beat CD Lamb at his worst game as a pro. 3 drops 1. I mean right in the breadbasket. So you can't. Sometimes the record doesn't belie the truth. Dax playing out of his mind. So is Baker. So is Darnold. It's these old guys. They got the 10,000 hours. But I think I would vote Baker Mayfield MVP of the league today. I think I would. I would have right now. Dak, runner up from, you know, a little overhyped to. Is everybody paying attention? What's happening here? Coaching staff, ownership, O line. I mean, find me a guy in the league that's working with a bunch of mid that's putting up those numbers. Well, it's the Jets. Well, the jets look pretty good against the Steelers. The jets didn't look that bad last week. Whatever's happening, Dak goes on the road. It's one of my favorite picks of the week. I mean, that thing was. What was that thing? 23 at 3 at half, 30 to 3 at one point and DAX putting on a clinic. That is amazing. So J. Mac, who did you went five on one in your picks. I had a winning week as well. So we know taking over a less talented team and rebuilding it, it's hard. Yeah, okay. Aaron Glenn's great example, but it's not that hard. Just like anything in life, taking over a. Building a business. I mean, you know, for a therapist, fixing a rocky marriage, it's hard, but it's not that hard. Competent people can do it. How about New England? How about what Mike Vrabel's doing and Drake May is doing.
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Drake May looks amazing.
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Incredible. Fourth quarter last year. New York jets had more high end players when Aaron Glenn took him over than New England had. I don't and a more experienced quarterback in Justin Fields. So again, same division. I'm not saying it isn't hard, but you're seeing a gap between Mike Vrabel and Aaron Glenn in a month. That's not even close. So we'll talk about that. It's easy to beat up on Buffalo. I don't think last night was about the Buffalo Bills at all. I think everybody in this sport has a stinker. They fumbled it. It was ball security was a mess. We'll talk about what's happening in New England, as well as Baker and Sam, who put on an absolute clinic yesterday in the Pacific Northwest. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartradio. He's Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byard. We have a fantasy football podcast called I Want yout Flexed. That's right, Dan. Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup. Sits starts fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate the competition. Listen to I Want yout Flex with Mike Harmon and me, Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and wherever you get your podcasts, imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle. It's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more@electric for all.org this is one of the best times of the year to be a sports fan. It seems like every week we are seeing great games and even better matchups between the best teams in football. Speaking of great matchups, Green River Whiskeys, Green River Gold Rush Cocktail. This is out of this world. Okay, shake up some Green River Kentucky Straight bourbon, lemon juice and honey. I had one of these last night. Strain it over ice. It is out of this world. Doesn't get simpler, doesn't get better. Green river offers a great lineup featuring their Kentucky Straight, weeded, foolproof and rye. Fall is also the perfect time to get yourself out to Kentucky and check out Green river in person. Incredible distillery in Owensboro, Kentucky. They have tastings, VIP experiences and more. Check out Green River's tasting room in Louisville, located right on historic Whiskey Row. So head over to greenriverwhisky.com learn more today. Try it for yourself. A product of Green River Distilling Company, Owensboro, Kentucky. Alcohol by volume varies by product. Greenriverwhiskey.com, please drink responsibly.
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Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Well, Stefan Diggs had a great homecoming. He was a very valuable receiver for the Buffalo Bills when he was there. Then he came back and he comes back as a New England Patriot. So I, I'm not going to beat up too much on the Bills. They don't lose at home much. It was just one of those games. They couldn't hold on to the football. They didn't play particularly well and Buffalo's fine. Is Buffalo great? I don't know, but Buffalo just didn't play well. And you have games like this. The Chiefs in their dynasty, the Patriots in their dynasty had games like this. This game was about the culture that Mike Vrabel has built and about Drake May now with a legitimate head coach quickly becoming a franchise star. This one we called, I said basically Vrabel and I picked him to make the playoffs despite being bad last year. Vrabel is the opposite of Mike McDaniel in Miami. He is all function and no flash. His brand, his scheme is toughness. He's a 260 pound pair of work boots. And that is what Vrabel's all about. He's your classic CEO, brand creator, culture, builder. All about resilience, all about toughness, NFL coaching and a lot of business is masonry, laying bricks every day. And that's what Vrabel does. He still gives Brady and Belichick crap. He does not. You know, he doesn't. He honors many. He worships none. He's a one of the smartest coaches in the league. And I mean I. And by the way, Belichick, you're seeing it in college. Belichick doesn't know college personnel. He can't recruit it in college. He couldn't draft it in the NFL. He can't. And so Vrabel didn't get anything. The last five drafts before Vrabel got there were nonsense crap. So he had to get a GM and spend 300 million bucks to just get an NFL roster. But I look at it, he also hiring Josh McDaniel again, not everybody is built to be a head coach. Some guys are brilliant vice presidents. Josh McDaniel created Brady Brady in the early years. Charlie Weiss, Josh McDaniel. Brady was always willing to be coached. Same with Drake May. We said when Drake May came out of college, he's Justin Herbert, he just is not quite polished enough. So it was speed dating. Speed him up quickly because Gerard Mayo was not it. Again, a guy that's more coordinator but between Josh McDaniels, the culture variable, the intelligence. This team's a playoff team. They check all the boxes a playoff team does. Toughness, resilient, can win on the road, excellent young quarterback. They've spent their money in the right places. And if Stefan Diggs can stay healthy, you're not going to get a lot of over the top throws in the playoffs. In the afc you're not. The weather is going to be lousy. But for the record, The Titans are 4 and 18 since Mike Vrabel left. That's one of the things we always talk about. It's not just what you do when you arrive. What happens to the company you left with Harbaugh, they go into the tank with Vrabel. The Titans are a laughingstock despite yesterday's goofy win. They're a laughingstock. The worst team in the league. So I mean this is not a small win. This is a defining moment for Vrabel. I think they're actually, I don't know if Mike Vrabel looked at the schedule before the season and looked at this game and thought it was that winnable. I think they're getting better really fast. If you go look at Drake Mays second half stats the last three weeks, last four weeks, I mean they gave that game away against Pittsburgh and he's a young quarterback. I mean Drake made a terrible red zone pick against Pittsburgh. He's a young quarterback. He's a kid. He's got 20 starts. Bo Nick says like 22 starts. But it's not about the bad throws. It's about can you make the big boy throws. And Drake May last night made about four of them. And it's like oh okay we, we gotta. This is big boy football. At CJ Stroud that first year he wasn't great every Sunday, but he'd get protection. When he did, he'd make throws and you're like yeah, it's like six guys in the world that can make that throw. So what a win for New England. This is what a playoff team looks like now. I'm not sure if it's a high level playoff team but I mean burrows out. Ravens are nonsense. They just beat Buffalo. Maybe they are. Here's Vrabel after. Really proud of the whole team for being able to come into this road environment. We talk about a lot of other people that had cracks beating them here for 14 games, they had their opportunity. Opportunity. And we. And those players took advantage of that opportunity and. And beat a really good football team that hasn't lost here much. Yeah, that was impressive. And by the way, here's the other thing I love. You ever seen that thing Vrabel does after the game? He greets every single player. Vrabel is about the players. Belichick in the end was about Belichick. Right. Belichick became about Belichick. And Vrabel's always been about the guys. It's very rare when you get somebody that's great at their job and doesn't really have an ego. And I'm telling you, I thought they'd be a wild card playoff team. I think they're ahead of schedule. I did not expect them. I said this week, I took them to cover. I said I'd take them to cover. It's a division rivalry game. I didn't think I'd win that thing. Buffalo does not lose at home. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Heard on the news.
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This is the Herd line news. If you want to buy low stock Patriots, here's who they have next. Spencer Rattler versus Cam Ward versus Dylan Gabriel. Michael Penix. There's still jets and Giants on the schedule. This could be an 11 win team. Colin. Jake Browning is coming up. Look at this, look at this. They're going to win like eight or nine games before December.
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So do you realize this is going to be my fifth straight? Oh, gosh. What?
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Bring that up.
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Another hit for Cowherd. No, no, no. My favorite bet every year is the what team will double their win total Team. You take a crappy team. And again, my take was jets. And the Dolphins are not trending up. They're going to get four wins there. I didn't think they beat Buffalo, but if you start looking at that schedule, I mean, it just. I didn't think Tampa would be this good.
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Their toughest game in the next seven weeks is at Baker Mayfield.
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That's.
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That's it. These guys. That's a good call by you. All right, let's get to a not so good call. The Baltimore Ravens. Oh, my gosh, Colin, this team is bad. Down bad right now, as the kids like to say. They lose 44, 10 to the Texans at home. The Ravens defense is on pace to give up 602 points, which would be the worst of all time. There's a stat floating around. They've given up 177 points through five games that Ray Lewis, Ed Reid, defense from 2000 that historically great, gave up 165 for the season. Here's John Harbaugh talking about how bad things are right now.
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Just a complete disappointment. And we're going to find a way to. To turn it around, figure out who we are this next week and then into the bye. And after the bye, we're going to have more than half the season left, and we're going to have to find ourselves. So that's what our aim will be going forward.
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So they were down Roquan Smith, their middle linebacker, Marlon Humphrey, who's their best corner, but he's not even playing good. Kyle Hamilton, who's their chess piece on defense. They're not winning any games without those guys. The backups were like kind of undrafted dudes off the street getting cooked.
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That's what happens when you pay guys. When you're paying Kyle or Roquan Smith is. Your backups aren't as good. So there are very few rosters that have a ton of depth. There just aren't many in the NFL anymore. So. Because you. That's why you have to. And you and I have discussed this a lot. You have to really be careful in the NFL who you pay. You've got to be very careful because all you have to do is pay one guy too much and all of a sudden a linebacker and a corner go down and you have like, you have CFL players. But, I mean, they pay their stars. Ronnie Stanley, Lamar Jackson. They pay their stars. Well. All it takes is three injuries. I mean, go. Go look at the Chargers right now.
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Without their offensive tackles. It's just. It's not a functional offense.
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By the way, Ronnie Stanley also missed the game. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to get in this. Should they fire John Harbaugh? There's just too many injuries. It's not like this. Is that right. Here's the problem. They got the Rams on deck.
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Oh, they're going to lose. Yeah.
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Rams are off extra time. If some of these guys don't come back. Yeah, I don't think they win. Now, the good news is, if we could get the Ravens schedule on the screen after the buy, their schedule is a cakewalk.
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Well, and also they'll get healthier. They'll get healthy. My guess is they reel off six or seven wins post Thanksgiving and they. And they make it a 8 and 9 or a 9 and 8 season. I don't think it's a playoff team. I think. I think teams like Denver. Here comes Kansas City, here's Denver. The Colts are absolutely the real deal. If Jacksonville wins tonight, New England's the real deal. Listen, we're having a little changing of the guard here. Burrows hurt again. Ravens are a mess, and all of a sudden. Oh, New England looks good. Oh, wait a minute. The Colts are totally legit.
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Listen, if you want a decent bet, tell me if you'd be. Look at that schedule.
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So you get the Bears after the buy. They should beat the Bears with Lamar and everybody. They're going to beat the Dolphins. They should beat J.J. mcCarthy.
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They're going to win eight or nine games.
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Well, here's the thing. Can they still win the division? Do you trust Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh to get separation?
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I actually. The way Aaron's playing, I do. Listen, we thought this could be the best division in football. It's arguably the worst with Burrow out and with Lamar out.
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So it happens they still got the Steelers twice. That's interesting. Now let's start to go to another bad team, but the Raiders and Pete Carroll. Oh, my gosh. They get destroyed by the Colts yesterday, 40 to 6. It's bordering on embarrassing. Geno Smith is just at rock bottom right now.
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I think this is more about the Colts. Colts are good.
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Yeah, but 40 to 6. And some of these decisions by Gino, he looks lost in the pocket now. He didn't have Bowers, which hurts, and.
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He doesn't have his best left tackle, so it's not a functional offense. I think the Colts, Colts are good. I think they're absolutely for real. I think it's a top three offensive line. I like their weapons. They've been very lucky. Ballard in the first round has had great players fall to him. This roster has like. Yeah, I always said this. To be a Super bowl team, you got to have about seven elite players somewhere close to their prime. I almost think. I don't think the tight ends close to his prime yet.
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Oh, but Tyler Warren is everywhere, man. He's throwing passes.
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Yeah.
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He's running the football. I mean, he's.
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No, but when you watch the Colts, they gave that game away against the Rams. They gave that thing away. This Colts team's going to win this division because I think Kansas City beats Jacksonville tonight. This is not about the Raiders being awful. It's Pete's first year. This is about a GM who has built a really good roster. And they've been sitting there since the late Jim Irsay forced Wentz to leave. They've been bailing water at quarterback. Well, Daniel Jones may not be an A but with Steichen, he's pretty damn good.
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It is interesting. The Colts went and got Daniel Jones. Pete Carroll wanted Geno Smith. Here's Pete Carroll after the loss.
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I'm processing it poorly, I'll tell you the truth, because I did expect to win right out of the shoes. They out executed in the throwing and catching part of it and we weren't able to get off the field and that's why they sustained their drives.
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Yeah, I don't see a lot of upside with this team, Colin. And we're going to round out Herdline here with another negative story, and that's Bill Belichick and North Carolina football. I don't know if you watched this Saturday.
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It was crowded, sports day, first play of the game. Didn't Clemson go to the tricks? There it is. Yeah.
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I mean, and you know, look at North Carolina, five yards trailing here. It was bad. 38 to 10. Beat down was never close. I'm pretty sure this was 35, three for a while.
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Yeah.
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Meanwhile, Clemson's not even good. Bill Belichick, his team has scored a touchdown on four of 29 drives against Power 5 conferences. That's not good. Here's Belichick after the yell.
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We just got to do a better job of coaching, a better job of playing and just eliminate the mistakes that are. There are, they're fixable. I mean, there's honestly not that many things that we can't get right, but we got to do a better job of it and we can't give up plays like that defensively at the beginning of the game, obviously it just tilts the score. You know, it's too much. So get back to work here tomorrow. And you know, I think I expect the players to rebound like they did last week and have another good week here. You know, I, I watched some of this game and I just go back to the last six drafts in New England. Bill controlled it and could not draft. Yeah. And clearly doesn't have a great eye for college personnel because they just don't have any good players. It's just, I mean, defensively, Cade Klubnick had struggled all year. It was pitch and catch. I don't know what his numbers were. Was he like 24 of 26? I mean it was like practice. So I think college football to some degree is a young man's game. But if you are middle aged or older like Saban, you have to have great energy. Well, Mack Brown before him, very good personality, very good energy, very good recruiter. So is Saban. Bill's not an engaging personality. And he and Mike Lombardi, they're Sunday guys, they're not Saturday guys. So I don't think they have a feel for it yet. That doesn't mean they couldn't turn it around next year.
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Maybe. But if this feels like Arch Manning, hey, this was an exciting off season story. Everybody was pumped. And no, it's just a big rejection.
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The transfer portal seduces a lot of coaches. You think you can solve a lot of your problems. You can't bring 50 new guys to a football team and build a culture. That's what I worried about. Remember I said this about New England when Mike Bravel came in? I said they spent so much money to get the NFL roster, the Patriots, just up to, like, NFL standards. There were so many. Remember how bad they were in the first couple weeks? And I said, you got to give me a break. New England start playing too many new people. Well, then it took a week three, week four, week five, everybody was banging on New England. Well, think about this. You're doing that with college guys. So Belichick's got 50 new guys. You just can't do that. Lincoln Riley still can't get his defense right. When you live and breathe with a transfer portal in college, you can't build a culture. You can build an offense if you get a great quarterback or you can have some explosive plays, but they just don't have enough good players. And none of these guys have played together before. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. So it's. It's one of these things in life that's never fair. You know, they always say when men and women meet, men take eight seconds, women take eight minutes. But they decide first date. Yeah, I'm gonna hook up. This personal work and first impressions in pro sports are rough. Sam Darnold's 21. He goes to the completely dysfunctional New York jets. And then Baker Mayfield goes to completely functional Cleveland. Now, Baker was much better than Sam, but it does get embedded in your mind, and you kind of hold it against Sam. Well, he's having another decent year. Or you look at Baker and you're like, oh, it'll implode. He's cocky. If you'd never watched Darnold in New York and you'd never watch Baker in Cleveland, and you just watched that game yesterday, you would think you have Brady Manning. Those guys were unbelievable. Mayfield goes 29 of 33, 380 yards. Darnold goes 28 of 34. They both have a passer rating at 135. It's one of the best offensive quarterback games I've ever seen in my life. And Baker's missing Mike Evans. He's missing Bucky Irving. Seattle's defense was a little banged up. I mean, it's the NFL. You're not going to be healthy. Baker was unbelievable. I'd give him my MVP today. This is the best Baker's ever played. It is that. That Seattle defense is. It was banged out, but it's a good defense. That's a tough place to play. But again, Brady and manning played over 15 times. We went and looked it up this morning. They never had a matchup with this kind of offensive productivity. If you didn't get this game in your local market and you got stuck with the Cardinals and the Titans, the NFL owes you an apology. That is one of the best quarterback games I've ever seen in my life. The game had nine touchdowns and 10 incompletions. And Baker was amazing. Sam's a little more athletic. Baker probably better, just throwing strikes from the pocket. And I both. What I watched was two great quarterbacks, two great GM rosters, two very competent head coaches. And, I mean, and Baker was not playing with a fully healthy team, and Seattle wasn't playing with a fully healthy defense. But, you know, it's funny, both these guys obviously take the coaching because Sam Darnold's biggest issue was really reckless and accuracy issues, and he had a slow windup. Darnold gets rid of that ball fast, and he's really accurate. So four straight years, Darnold's accuracy has improved. The other thing is they both have a great young wide receiver that is growing with them. Them. So they didn't inherit, you know, a lot of egos. They went to good coaches, defensive coaches, who let them be their own personality. But here was Baker after a scintillating win. We're built different. That's just. It's the way the locker room's wired, the way they built this roster, and I love it. It's a. It's a group that plays with an edge. And we're. I always say we're always in the fight, but I love this team and I love the way they fight. And both Baker and Sam can have their reckless moments, but we looked it up. Manning and Brady played 17 times. They never had a single game where Both threw for over 300 or they neither ever played together. And both teams scored over 35 points. So that shootout was rare. But again, if you go back to your first impressions. Darnold's 21. He goes to New York. The jets are the Jets. They could make anybody look bad. Think about how many people in this league today are flourishing that are former Jets. 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Tomorrow it's a pair of game threes in the alds, starting with the Mariners taking on the Tigers. Coverage begins at 3pm Eastern. Then in prime time, the Blue Jays head to the Bronx to take on Judge and the Yankees at 8 Eastern.
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All on FS1 Mariners. Even the series. Keep your eye on the Mariners. So I have this theory that everything now because of TikTok and Instagram is performative. Nobody can just have lunch or a conversation with a friend and you can't go out or you've got to take pictures of your food and you've got to show where you're at. People can't just live. And I think this trend among young people, this need to constantly be performing and be cool. And I believe this is happening in the NFL because I've now seen it like three, four times and it's disturbing. Yesterday, Arizona running back Amare DiMarcado breaks free. Man, this is a bad trend. Trying to be cool. Drops the ball at the goal line. This would have sealed the win. They would have gone up 28 to 6. It would have sealed the win. Every yard counts in the NFL. Every play counts in the NFL. Do you know how hard your teammates work? How hard it is to be an offensive lineman to create that hole? How hard football practice is? I mean, this is. That's literally like showing up late to work the week your company's having layoffs. Hello, self awareness. By the way, last week, Indianapolis wide receiver, another showboater, A.D. mitchell, does the exact same thing. This could have sealed the game for the Colts. And this guy never scored a touchdown in the NFL. Still has it. What in God's name are you thinking? Stop showboating. Get into the end zone. By the way, this week he played six snapshots. Thankfully, I'd cut them. I'd have no problem cutting guys that do this. People are losing jobs in the NFL because of this. Coaches, coordinators, teammates. You know how hard it is to score on a long touchdown run in the NFL. There are very few of them. Philadelphia now can't run the football. They got Pro Bowlers everywhere. It's hard. It's so selfish and so disrespectful. The jets had a guy that did this last year, Malachi Corley. Shocking. He's never scored a touchdown. Most of the great players get it, but you have to be so self absorbed, lacking in total self awareness. I mean, the Arizona was missing two starters at running back. Bro, it's your moment. It is your moment. Remember this last year with the Jets, a guy that's never scored a touchdown. Performative, Trying to be cool. I mean, I. This is the NFL. Go look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this year. Every single play matters. I mean, to do that to your teammates. I mean, baseball practice as a kid was fun. Basketball practice is a good sweat. Soccer practice, football practice, it's often in bad weather. Pads, it's cold, it's hard, you're getting hit. Football practice is hard. You're going to be that selfish of a human being that's selfish of a teammate. To all your brothers who worked so hard. You know how rarely you get a 50 yard touchdown run in the NFL? This thing was going to be a 70 yard touchdown run. Those just don't happen. The good teams don't get those. The bad teams never get them. All that work and you're going performative. Don't tell me you couldn't see the line. Not that hard to figure out. Here was the coach after.
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As a coach, what do you say to him?
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There's never about one play. We have coaching points that I'm not going to tell you guys now. Is this the worst that you felt after a loss here? I don't know that. What do you think, Bob? We've had some bad ones. Yeah. On the sideline. That coach was furious. And I don't blame him. I mean that. That coach was absolutely. I'm surprised so many players were consoling him. That is an L. I mean it is, man. You got to be a selfish coworker. You really got to be selfish to do that A.D. mitchell, bro, you've never been in the end zone. The Colts were a good team. You're on the road, you're facing the Rams. Daniel Jones is playing his butt off your offensive lines giving great production and you're. You're trying to perform. I swear to God. I think this is TikTok and Instagram and nobody can just have lunch. Nobody can just have lunch without taking a picture of it. Can we just live a little bit? Not have to constantly show off? Speaking of show off, Bo Nix got to in the fourth quarter, fourth quarter against the Eagles on the road. Bo Nix was 9 of 10, 3 of 3 on scoring drives, 1 on 1 on 2 point conversion. A lot of you guys are rooting against Bo Nix. It's going to work. I mean, he's going against Vic Fangio's defense in that roster. He's really been able to speed up his delivery. He held onto the ball last year too long. He plays super fast right now. He is. And he's also really athletic. I'd make an argument you could run him more. He is really athletic. And here's the thing that you see, I say this all the time. Watch a game and watch the play calling a coach will tell you what they think about a player by the plays they call. Okay? There's no hand holding here right now. Bo Nix leads the NFL in pass attempts. Yep. More than any other quarterback. That is trust there. There's no hand holding going on in Denver, so. And the other thing, one of the great things about Brady is Brady didn't take sacks. Brady had no problem throwing it away, dirting it, getting rid of it. Bo Nix doesn't get sacked and they face some real defenses. He's been sacked five times all year. Now, you know how last year we said a lot of times Caleb Williams was getting sacked and it wasn't always the offensive lines fault. Matt Hasselbeck said that. A lot of people said that. Well, he's only sacked five times. That's not all the offensive line getting credit. He gets rid of it fast. And again, he's only played 22 games, so it's. He's going to have. Drake May had a horrible interception against the Steelers. Bad plays are going to happen. But when I watch him and his ability to get rid of the ball, get first downs with his legs, I mean intellectually, physically, that ball's out. Here's Sean Payton. After the road win and the decision to go for two, we felt situationally with time left on the clock, you know, we came here to win a game and I had two or three calls that I loved and the guys executed it was perfect. But we felt, I think there was seven, seven and a half minutes.
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Let's do that.
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Let's keep, let's keep being aggressive. And by the way, the play was designed perfectly. It's interesting about going for two because a lot of times I think coaches tend to be math professors before they need to, they start playing to the numbers. That was one of the rare instances I'm like, listen, Philly doesn't lose. They haven't lost since when? December, something last year. You're on the road on Philly. When you're on the road, you go for it. If you're on the road and you're an underdog, that's a go for it moment. If you're at home in a heavy favorite, you may just think, listen, we want to get to overtime. We got the better players. We're at home, our players are comfortable. Let's get to overtime. I got the better roster. But if you believe we're on the road, we're an underdog. We were getting shelled at half. We have all the momentum I like to call. And again, I think it's situational. I don't think that's an always do it. But again, you have momentum. Bonix is hot. The Eagles are a little backpedaling. It's. You're on the road, you're an underdog. By the way, Kansas City just beat. You got to think about all this stuff. Kansas City faces Jacksonville tonight. Kansas City just crushed Baltimore. Here comes Kansas City. My take is we're not going to play it safe against the Chiefs. We're not going to play it safe against the top teams in the NFL. Let's go for it. So that was the rare instance. Usually I'd be like, dude, just tie it up. Don't be a math professor. I don't know, J. Mack, how you feel, but that was one of those, like, dude, when you get Philadelphia a chance to step on the neck a little bit, I think you go for it.
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Yeah, I totally agree because Philly has this weird thing. They don't, you know, play to the whistle. Remember they had Tampa down 246 and just stopped playing?
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Yeah.
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Up 173 in the fourth. Kind of stop playing. Let me ask you on the Eagles, Colin. We know they're good. They were number one in her hierarchy. So because CD Lamb drops passes, they beat them. Travis Kelsey bobbles the Intercept.
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There is no great team in this league.
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That's the thing. I don't know how good he is.
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There are great units. There are teams that have great games. There are no great teams in this league. There are awful teams. Two of them may be in New York, but there are no great teams in the NFL. Colin, right? Colin, wrong Hour two. First one flew by. It's the herd. Imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle. It's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more atelectric for all.org what do.
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Date: October 6, 2025
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd | iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
In this episode, Colin Cowherd delivers thoughtful, fiery analysis on a big NFL weekend that finally saw the Philadelphia Eagles stumble, ignited fresh debate about Dak Prescott’s value to the Cowboys, and showcased the rapid rise of Patriots rookie QB Drake Maye. Cowherd emphasizes coaching, quarterback maturity, and the fleeting nature of NFL dominance while mixing sharp stats, personal theories, and memorable moments. The episode is packed with candid takes, and moves briskly through major storylines, individual player arcs, and broader league trends.
Key Quote:
“Philadelphia has been a leaky faucet. For five weeks we’ve been talking about this…Drip, drip, drip…there were signs, warning signs, red flags.” (03:15)
Notable Analysis:
Key Stat:
“They’re 17th in the NFL in big plays with A.J. Brown, Devonte Smith, Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts…Middle of the pack on big plays. Yards per play has tanked.” (05:14)
Player Focus:
Bo Nix: Showed athleticism, quick decision-making, poise against elite defense in the second half.
“Bo Nix is seeing it, and letting it rip.” (04:49)
[08:22] Sirianni’s post-game comments highlight focus on “detail” and not effort:
Key Quote:
“Dak’s gone from a little overrated, to now underappreciated…I would vote probably Baker Mayfield 1 and Dak 2 [for MVP].” (10:09)
Cowherd on Dak’s resilience:
Dak’s response to MVP chants (paraphrased):
[16:35] Focus shifts to how coaching and culture fast-tracked the Patriots’ transformation:
Drake Maye’s Rapid Ascent:
Notable Stat:
“If you go look at Drake Maye’s second half stats the last three weeks…He’s got 20 starts…Bo Nix like 22.” (21:01)
John Harbaugh:
“Just a complete disappointment…we’re going to have more than half the season left, and we're going to have to find ourselves.” (24:54)
Baker Mayfield postgame:
“We’re built different. That’s just…the way the locker room’s wired, the way they built this roster, and I love it. It’s a group that plays with an edge…” (35:42)
[41:12] Colin’s “TikTok theory”: Players’ need for performative celebrations is leading to self-inflicted disaster.
Cowherd rails against broader social media culture infecting the league and undermining hard-won team efforts.
Coach responds to DiMarcado’s blunder:
“There’s never about one play. We have coaching points that I’m not going to tell you guys now.” (44:43)
[45:52] More praise for Bo Nix:
Sean Payton’s postgame insight on going for two:
“We felt situationally…we came here to win a game…I had two or three calls that I loved and the guys executed, it was perfect.” (47:30)
Cowherd supports the decision, citing the “road underdog” scenario.
“If you’re on the road, you go for it…If you’re an underdog, that’s a go-for-it moment.” (48:26)
“This is not on the players… It’s a coordinator hire and that’s OK. A lot of coaches in this league are not Kyle Shanahan.” (05:25)
“You got to peel this onion. There was the a little overhyped Dak…and now…It is a lot of C+ players, and they’re still rebuilding this offensive line and Dak looks unbelievable.” (10:52)
“He still gives Brady and Belichick crap…He honors many, worships none. He’s a one of the smartest coaches in the league.” (17:14)
“I swear to God, I think this is TikTok and Instagram and nobody can just have lunch.” (43:31)
“There are no great teams in this league. There are awful teams. Two of them may be in New York, but there are no great teams in the NFL.” (50:07)
Summary prepared for those who missed the episode and want every major insight, stat, and moment in the host’s own lively, opinionated style.