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THE HERD - Hour 1 - What they are saying about Fernando Mendoza, the Lakers have problems
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Good to see you warming up in Chicago. I almost wore cargo pants to work today. So Clint Kubiak is the new coach of the Las Vegas Raiders I like to hire. He was quoted yesterday saying, hey, I gotta watch a lot of tape to determine who's gonna be the number one pick. Clint, I've seen the tape draft Fernando Mendoza. What is happening over the last 48 hours on people I am talking to in the NFL is crazy. I'm getting real pushback on Fernando Mendoza as an a quarterback prospect. The last time I got this much pushback on a quarterback I loved and a lot of people in the league were a little cool on him. Maybe you've heard of him. Sam Darnold Usually I agree with people. I always call on people. But the majority opinion I am hearing in the league is he is a good prospect. But Indiana football is about Kurt Zignetti. What a crock that is. And I like Kurt Signetti. Indiana loses three games this year minimum without Fernando Mendoza. Miami, Ohio State and Penn State not winning those games. And I would argue maybe five losses. They trailed Iowa in the fourth and were tied with Oregon at Austin in the fourth. Maybe they win those, maybe they don't. But you could have had five losses without Mendoza and a lot of Indiana fans. And by the way, Indiana football Fan, you've mattered for 20 minutes. Lose the arrogance. You're not Oklahoma. You're not Ohio State. You're not Notre Dame. You're Indiana. You're a basketball school with a couple rich boosters. I didn't buy you last year. I called you a fraud because you were. Because you had the number two scoring offense in the country and you built it up against a bunch of, you know, Panera Breads in the out of conference last year. They hung. This is Pre Mendoza. Indiana hung 77 on Western Illinois, 52 on something called Charlotte, and 66 on Perdon. You average 53 1/2 points in your out of conference games, so you thought that was a real flex. And then you played Ohio state and had 150 yards offense, and you played Notre Dame and you trailed 20 to three in the fourth before some garbage stats. And you played a bad Michigan team and you had 40 yards rushing. You don't matter yet. A great season and a great team. The year before, I stand by everything I said. Fool's gold. You paint. You played a bad Michigan team. They pushed you around. You couldn't move, you couldn't run the ball. And then Fernando Mendoza arrives and you dropped, you know, 38 on Bama and 66 on a very, very good Illinois team and 50 plus on Oregon in the. In the playoff or whatever it was. That's a legitimate team. 16 and oh is a legitimate team. So I don't want to hear about all the whiny Indiana football fans. And we got a lot of them in the Fox building. Oh, whiners. Oh, A year ago you said. I said the truth. You crushed Western Illinois. I don't even. I mean, I live in Illinois. I thought western Illinois was Indiana. Is it a school that's on an island in Lake Michigan? What is Western Illinois? Charlotte. Well, what is that this year? You go to Penn State, you go to Austin, you're crushing Alabama, you're rolling people, you're beating Ohio State. You were totally legitimate. That's not Signetti alone. If quarterback doesn't matter and it's all about Signetti, then Kurt Signetti is the only coach in the history of football, AFL, NFL college football, Division 1 through Division 13, where quarterback really doesn't have that much of an impact. Yeah, I'm gonna say it does. And I thought last year a lot of that stuff last year with Indiana was cotton candy scheduling. When they faced the big boys, it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That Notre Dame game, they're punting in their own territory. They're Punting it like the. What are they punting, like the Notre Dame 45 or something? You're like, yeah, give me a break. I mean, give me a. You guys have. I mean, everybody's got amnesia. This year's Indiana. Yikes. They were legit. But like any team, they were very reliant on a great quarterback. And I am getting so much pushback on Fernando Mendoza, and I don't get it. Big accurate moves, humble gratitude. I don't get it. I watched them at Penn State. I marched them against Ohio State. I watched them against Miami's defense. He's unbelievable. And nobody loves him. Everybody likes him. My guy, Todd McShay, said this yesterday on the show. Talent is talent, right? And. And I. I really like Fernando Mendoza. He's tall. He's 6, 5, 2, 20. He's got mobility for his size. He's got a lot of energy on the ball, and he's smart, but he's not. If we're talking physically, he's not some of the guys we've seen in the last few drafts. He's not Caleb, he's not Jaden, he's not Drake. He's not even Cam Ward. So there's that to unpack. I like Cam Ward. Fernando Mendoza is not a better prospect than Cam Ward, I'm telling you. I don't understand. What's the Will Ferrell line? You people are taking crazy pills. I'm not saying he's Andrew Locke. I'm not saying he's John Elway. I'm. I'm not. I'm not saying he has the horsepower of Caleb. I'm not saying as a prospect, he's Josh Allen, who Mel Kiper called a top 10 prospect there. I'm not saying that, but I. Kurt Signetti's great. Kurt Signetti had a BB gun offense the year before Mendoza arrived. It was a water pistol. I mean, they were dominating, you know, directional schools this year. They were kicking Alabama's butt. Okay, yeah, the nil got them a few more good players, no question. Couple edge rushers. One was hurt, though. Got hurt. But I. It's. Folks, every. Go look at Belichick without Brady. Every coach in the history of football, go look at Bruce Arians when he had Brady and when he had Carson Palmer. And then look at Bruce Arians when he didn't. And Bruce Arian's a great coach. Every coach is driven by their quarterback play. And he. Reed's unbelievable. He's way better with Mahomes. Okay, so that. That just throws me for A loop. I get off the phone the last two days and I'm like, man, I like this guy way more than everybody else. There's so much I like about him. Okay, you get me worked up on this stuff. The draft isn't even until April and I'm having. You know, I'm going nuts over here. Maybe it's the coffee. Okay, so last night, spurs played the Lakers. Two nights ago, it was OKC Lakers. So two truths were on display. Number one is NBA fix your product. Luka LeBron and Austin Reeves were not available. What a crappy product. You're a kid. You go to a game. You live in Palmdale. You go to one, one game a year, and you don't get LeBron, Luka. And by the way, the warriors play tonight. No staff, no Jimmy Butler. Butler's injured, but give me a break. Bad product. Here's everything in the NBA is a. Yeah, but. Oh, we got to go watch the team tonight. Yeah, but so and so is not playing. I mean, in the NFL, you always get the stars, right? And that sport, they tackle each other. Here's the other truth. Those new wealthy Laker owners. This is going to hurt for J. Mac. They have watched the last two nights OKC come into town and the spurs come into town, and those two rosters compared to the Lakers. Depth, length, defenders, multiple scores, Guys that aren't old and sleepy and can't play back to back. Those rosters are the best two rosters in the NBA. And those new Laker owners are watching those two teams Walt in the crypto arena. And the Lakers look a mile away. A mile away. And you could say, well, the Lakers got injuries. The new Laker owners own the Dodgers. The last two years, the 2025 Dodgers top the record set by the 2024 Dodgers in pitchers used for a World Series winning team. The Dodgers have been beat up for two years. They're not interested in the excuses. Lucas, 27, supposed to be in his prime. Why is his game gotten more cerebral than athletic? Why is he hurt so much? Because Wimby's not in his prime. Five years younger. And he is a mile better than Luca right now because he actually plays defense. Rim protector, runs the floor, does everything well. So those new Laker owners walked into this organization in the last two nights, they have seen the league's truth, the gap. Wemby had 37 at half. Could have scored 70. He could have done whatever. I mean, they scored. What do they score? How many points they have at halftime? 74 points at halftime. Or something like that. I mean, spurs were just doing whatever they wanted to. And everybody tells me about Luka, and I like luka, but he's 27. The game's not as vertical. I'm sorry. He doesn't, once again, look to be in the best shape. So people say, well, the Lakers have cap space. It is not a transactional league like that anymore. It's a draft and develop league. Look at the Pistons, look at the spurs. Look at okc. Three best teams in the league. It is a draft and developed league. The sharp, young GMs are crushing. So I gotta tell you, the last two nights. And crypto is a perfect sponsor for the Lakers facility. Bloated valuation. Fool's Gold buying into gold and purple. You know, in crypto, they call it a rug pull. They call it a rug pull when the price craters. Lakers need a rug pull. Their GM rug. Pelinka, he may need to get pulled. Lakers against winning teams. 11 and 13 against winning teams. They're not good. Oh, they're unbelievable against the Wizards. So I said it yesterday. J.J. redick, love him. Luca. Like him a lot. Everybody else, Wrecking Ball. Those new. Those new Laker owners, those cats, they're moving off Cody Bellinger, Manny Machado, Scott Seger, Trey Turner. Those are great players. That was like hall of Fame. I mean, Manny Machado's gonna make the hall of Fame and move it off. Those guys. I mean, you watch the spurs and the okc, they all. They both have more draft capital. They have more good players, great benches, unbelievable twitchy defenders and length. And they have, like, each five or six ascending players. Who's ascending on the Lakers? It's not Luka. I'll argue all day long. It's not Luka. Luka's great. He's not ascending. His game has gotten more. A little bit more cerebral, which is great, but it's not quite as athletic as three years ago, which would worry me because he's 27. Yeah, okay, my bad. Spurs had 84 points at halftime. I mean, well, Colin, this guy didn't play and this guy didn't play and this guy didn't play. Those Dodgers owners. I mean, those guys have been winning World series titles using 40 pitchers. I mean, they're just basically trying to figure out who's available for the eighth inning, you know, in your divisional round playoff series. They're running out of guys. Here's Wemby on his performance last night. This kind of games, you gotta have, you know, the greed in every game. You have to have this greed, you know, to walk more every time because you know, at all times, it doesn't matter who's on the court, is somebody who's going to want to stop you from doing what you do, okay? So you gotta be greedy. Greg Cosell in 45 minutes. J. Mack. There's no reason to go into play by play on OKC in San Antonio, but when you look at those two rosters, you look at the, I mean, the spurs just come in and Castle got hurt in top of the second quarter. But when you look at those rosters, you're just like, wow. Young ascent. And those teams have draft capital galore. Yeah. So I was at the game last night and you know, we walk into the arena, we know who's out for the Lakers, and we look at the first half line and it was only spurs minus seven and a half. Now that was what I wish I had loaded up on. It was like they were up 30 at halftime. It was a bloodbath. The Lakers, not competitive. The guy who's probably a little nervous right now, Colin, we talked about this yesterday. Probably Rob Pelinka. I mean, I, listen, I like the Lakers. I think they're going to be fine this season and do well in the postseason. But Rob, that roster looked really exposed last night compared to the spurs, whose bench players were miles better. I mean, Carter Bryant, the rookie from Arizona. Oh yeah, he was awesome. I mean, you should have seen him in the dunk line before the game. I was like, wow, who's this guy? Spurs are loaded. They're going to be my pick. They're officially my pick to win the NBA title. Yeah, I think so too. I, I, I mean, they, they just, you know, these NBA champs, starting five, they have their three to four man rotation. The spurs walk into town and if Wemby's playing, it's the same starting five, it's the same four guys in the rotation, they're well, they've been well run forever. Yeah. But when you watch Wemby's upside and again you can say, well, the Lakers are missing. Bang, bang, bang. Well, that's because LeBron can't play back to back. That's because Luka over the last three years is always dinged up. Austin Reeves, not 100%. And you know, so it's like, you know, it's funny, the spurs are healthy, okay? Cesa was healthy. If it wasn't for flu the last two nights, you'd have had everybody else. When you have young players in their prime who are in great shape all the time they don't get hurt as much. It's great. Anthony Davis can't stay healthy. Why would that be? In his entire career? And I love Anthony Davis, one of the best defensive players of my lifetime. AD Is in his prime, is one of the great defensive players I've ever seen. I said it two years ago or last year. Should have been defensive player of the year. Unbelievable talent. Never healthy. What was a knock on him? Not in great shape. I mean, I. You know, now, I'm not saying you have to be in D. Wade and LeBron shape, but the guys that get dinged up a lot, it's. It's not just coincidence. I don't buy that. All right, you get me worked up on this stuff, J. Mac, I love how fired up you are. That Lakers rant was epic. I mean, listen, they're going to be fine, but your rant was a plus. Good stuff. Oh, I really appreciate that. Was it a neuro gum kind of morning? Are you back on that stuff? You know, I flew cross country last night. Yes, I'm aware. And strangest thing happened. So I'm on the flight next to a guy. He's a big guy. You know, I don't talk much on flights. I get in, I sit down, I put in the pods, I stream whatever you know, go on. Starlink or whatever, United Airlines. I don't talk a lot. And all of a sudden, about an hour into the flight, the guy gets up. I'm thinking, going to the bathroom. He disappears. And it's a full flight. I'm like, where'd he go? And so I kept looking for about 10 minutes, the bathroom. And I got up to stretch, but I looked in the back. I'm like, not on the plane. And I'm like, we got a DB Cooper situation here. Somebody jumped out the back of the plane. And then about five minutes before we land, he walks up and sits next to me. And I said I was a little concerned. Where'd you go? He's got. I had a buddy. I was texting the back of the plane, and I'm like, yeah, I'm telling you right now. I was like, who had a parachute? Who? I tried to identify everybody in first class. I got. We got a DB Cooper thing. And I'm looking around it. I want to ID people to make sure, you know, I got my act together here. It was a wild night, flying home. I didn't even, you know, I wasn't popping cocktails. I was ginger aling it all the way home. I got DB Cooper, next to me. It was crazy. FBI has issued a warning letter. A warning letting everyone know that scammers have developed a sophisticated method for impersonating your bank. Cyber criminals. You know they're manipulating AI to populate online search results. Fake contact info. 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Qualify unlocked device credit service ported 90 plus days with device in eligible carrier and timely redemption required. No CA access and card expires in six months. Card issued by Sunrise Banks NA Member fdic. All right, welcome back. I saw this story this morning. This got me worked up too. I want to defend Caleb William, Bears quarterback because I saw the story. Bears quarterback Caleb William Caleb Williams is the betting favorite to win MVP next year and I can hear everybody already saying, I mean give me a break. You media people. First of all, he's got two big advantages. He's got a great offensive coach and his game is fun. Matt Stafford won mvp. You think of Stafford, you're like big time arm. No look, passes. Mahomes wins mvp, right? What? Left handed passes. This is not voted on by an algorithm. People vote on MVP and Caleb Williams, even when you compare him to like really talented Sam Darnold, Caleb's just different. Caleb does stuff nobody else does except Josh Allen. So. And the difference is, I think Caleb Williams, in my opinion, has a better coach than Josh Allen did. And I think Sean McDermott is very, very good. I think Ben Johnson, we may have a great one here. We may have another McVeigh. So the Bears went from 32nd offense, total offense to sixth. You know what that feels like to me? Very much like Mike McDonald in Seattle who took over for Pete Carroll. They went like 30th to 11th to number one in the Super Bowl. So I think Ben Johnson in Chicago and Mike McDonald in Seattle, we could be looking at. And I believe this to be true. We got a couple more McVeighs, guys that are just different. They're just better than everybody else. So. And there are. And here's my thing about Caleb Williams. There are these players in NFL history. Lawrence Taylor is one. I mean, there's so many funny things on the Internet TikTok about Bill Parcells talking about Lawrence Taylor where like, he just would do his own thing. He freelanced his way to being the best pass rusher in league history. I mean, even Bill Parcells at some point, like, yeah, whatever, do your thing. Bill Parcells. So Deion Sanders didn't like the tackle or defend the run. He was so good at guarding everybody in the league, including mostly Jerry Rice. You just kind of let him do his own thing. So, I mean, when people get worked up on the completion percentage for Caleb Williams, my take is, okay, here are people that also struggled in year two with their completion percentage. Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, Peyton Manning and Josh Allen. You know, when you're really. I mean, Peyton Manning was so good upstairs. Josh Allen has so much power. Stafford had such a good arm. I don't get too caught up on completion percentage. I think it needs to get a little better. A little better. But if he gets the 61 and a half or 62 and a half, I'm kind of okay with it. I mean, Lawrence Taylor kind of. Deion Sanders kind of freelance their way a lot. If Caleb freelances six times a game, I'm comfortable with it. I mean, if you told me who should win the MVP next year, who I would put my, my crypto on, I'd go Caleb one and Josh Allen two. Because I think Caleb has the better head coach here. Brian Erlacher, the very popular, former great Chicago Bear, was talking about Caleb last week to USA Today. Caleb was really Good. Last year as a rookie, he didn't turn the football over, which is a big deal. But I did not see him making the jump he made this year, or their whole team, for that matter. Defensively, I just think the belief that they were going to win every game starts with him. It's crazy. The clutch throws. He makes cannon arm. When things break down, that's when he's really good. I feel like, yeah, he gets at his best. Yeah. So I. To me, Caleb Williams, number one. Preseason mvp. Josh Allen, too. And a lot of it is because. Nothing against Joe Brady, but he's not Ben Johnson. He may succeed. He's not Ben Johnson. He's not Ben Johnson. For two years, maybe three, before he got the job in Chicago, you and I were spending. You'd go out and talk to fans, and it's like, man, who's that guy in Detroit? I mean, the Lions were, like, creative and clever and progressive and smart and fun, and Joe Brady may work. I have my doubts. Not Ben Johnson. So I think Caleb should be the favorite. He just. Some guys are more fun to watch and easier to vote for. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Heard on the news. This is the Herd line news. All right, let's Revisit Super Bowl 60. Colin. Fun little nugget here from Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach. So he went on the Jimmy Kimmel show this week, and I had not heard this anywhere. He said in the stadium, it was overwhelmingly Seahawks fans. Yeah, take a listen. It was incredible. I mean, it's must have been 75, 25. It felt like we. You know, if you're like, when you come play on a road game, it's hard to do, like, a verbal cadence for the quarterback to snap the ball because he can't hear. Right. So you have to have some sort of, like, silent. You know, we call it silent cadence, where you lift the leg or whatever. But their offense is on silent cadence the whole game, which gives us an advantage on defense. Our offense was able to use a verbal cadence where Sam could, you know, give all the commands to the center. So it was like playing a home game, you know, J. Mac. I was sitting with two people, Josh and Ryan producers, watching the game, and we were talking about it right before the game. We're like, this is kind of a home game for Seattle. Not just because of the crowd, because they played in that stadium multiple times. And the lighting and the angles for a late afternoon, you know, it was a late afternoon on the West Coast. It did feel like watching that game is I've seen Seattle play here. I've seen Darnold play here. I've seen the Seahawks the last couple of years. McDonald, it felt like. And then you started. They pan the crowd and you're like, oh, this, this is like one of those bowl games in the south where it's like 70% like, you know, it's like 65% Georgia fans and then 35%, you know, whoever the other team is, fans, Oregon or whatever. So it, I thought that played. I thought Seattle looked much more comfortable and they were better and they had a better game plan and a better quarterback. But I, I did think it was an advantage. Seahawks defense, obviously. Six sacks, three turnovers. They were nasty. Let's go to the second story, and that's the Clint Kubiak presser yesterday. I know you were fired up about his comments about Fernando Mendoza, the number one pick. However. However, he was also asked about Max Crosby, the defensive end who made waves last week, with some comments. Here's what Kubiak said about the future of Crosby in Vegas. Love talking ball with him and, you know, look forward to continuing those conversations. He was, I think he was the first one in here this morning working out, so I fired me up. We want him to be a part of our, of our success going forward. You know, there's no doubt about that. And you know, he's, he's one of the best players in the NFL, so that's a no brainer. To get to work with Max and to see him continue to have success with this organization, that'd be big. I don't know. I know you're plugged in with Crosby. He's your guy. He don't like me. Well, you just throw shots at people indiscriminately and, you know, I didn't think he was a top five defensive end in the league. Sorry. I mean, he's really. Garrett, he's probably number two. He's very, very good. I, I'm not running to go that far. But more importantly, he's the only guy the Raiders have. Look at these Sack numbers. Since 2019, it's basically Max Crosby and random guys who don't do much or aren't sticking around long. Colin, they need Crosby badly. Listen, they got some draft capital. Part of me wants Max Crosby to play in a Super Bowl. So I've come to the conclusion that if Max gets traded, I think it's really cool, especially if he went to like, I mean, just to put him on, you know, Buffalo, for instance, could use a consistent edge Rusher. I would love to see Max Crosby in Buffalo. It's nothing against the Raiders, but I do when I have somebody I like, like Sam Darnold, I like. I wanted Sam to have Kevin o'. Connell. I wanted Sam to go to Seattle. I want Sam to flourish. Max Crosby is one of my guys. So I, I think if he stays in the Raiders and they pay him, I'm happy because he's going to get more money soon. But my other take is if he goes to somebody like let's say Jacksonville or with Liam Cohen and that team that's like a player away or he goes to Buffalo. I'm also happy for him. I'm Buffalo. You don't have a single Pro Bowler on defense. How can you make your corners and your safeties better? A great pass rush. I think you got to give up a lot to get him though, huh? You got to give up a lot to get him to Buffalo. Okay, Josh Allen, four more years, prime. I don't need first round picks. You've got your left tackle. You're running back. You need an edge rusher. I get. What's the timeline? We were talking about this during the prep this morning. Luke is 27. You think Luka's got six more years of prime? His game is already less athletic today than it was four years ago. Okay, so like, what's Luka's window? To me, Luka's window is the next four years. Rob Polinka, Nick. Right. And I talked about this yesterday. You got to speed it up here because Luka is aging faster. Carmelo aged very fast, didn't he? Why? He wasn't in LeBron shape. How did they come out at the same time? And LeBron still playing. And Mello is a broadcaster because so to me, Josh Allen, the way he runs around and gets popped, you probably have four years of AAA plus and then like Big Ben or Cam, big guys who, you know, run around, get hit, it starts, you can see. So to me, your window in Buffalo is today. Now. I'm sorry, I can't rock. You just are like, you don't need first round picks. We just saw Seattle draft Eminwari and he's a huge factor. He was a second round, even better second round pick. You need your picks, Colin, you can pick yourself up. Rams have had one first round pick in nine years. Second best franchise in the league. The only team that can move the ball on the Seahawks is the team that's had one first round pick in nine years. I mean, if you draft well, second Third, fourth, fifth round and you have a team friendly quarterback deal. You can be an excellent. The team friendly quarterback screws it up. But I honestly I don't know that I'm trading for Crosby if I'm. If Buffalo you're going to cost you two ones. Let me ask for this guy. What are you going to get in the first round? How'd that Keon Coleman thing work as a big. Well that was a very poor job by Mr. Remember you're giving up two first round picks in Buffalo. They're bottom of the first round. What are you getting? The third best corner at Georgia. Let me know. The Eagles. Eagles sure did draft some really good players. Whiffed on a late first round pick, a receiver. If you recall at a TCU those late first round picks. Rager. Yeah. The best GMs in the league. Jason Light in, in Tampa, great GM. He took Kyle Trask, Florida. That is an impossible place to draft. Even Seattle's John Snyder now he's drafting at the bottom of the first. Dude, those are second round players by the 20th pick. That's a hard place for GMC. So what's your guess on Crosby? Is he playing for the Raiders next season or traded? All I know, if I'm Buffalo, I give up two first in a heartbeat to get him because the one thing they need are explosive defensive players. Now if you, if you want to move up and get Bane or like out of Miami, the hurricane kid or if you want to move up, you can do it but you're going to have to give up. Maybe you don't give up two firsts, maybe you give up a second and a third. I. That's not a bad move by Buffalo. Listen, Rams found Jared Verse late first round and he's crushing it already an elite player at his position. Game changer like I don't know man. I think you're who that's a good topic for the off season though. Would you give up two first round picks for Max Crosby? Well, it depends on the downside is you're paying Josh Allen so much. For instance, I'll give you a team that should look at Max Crosby. The Chicago Bears quarterbacks on a rookie deal. Yes, that makes sense. I'll give you another team. New England Patriots quarterbacks on a rookie deal. Both those teams, Chicago's got a decent defense. They do not have a consistent edge. I would have no problem Ryan Poles giving up first to get Max Crosby. What is the window to win a Super bowl with Caleb Williams? Now you could say it's 10 years but we just watched the Super bowl with two team friendly quarterback deals. By the way, if Bo Nix is healthy he's probably in the super bowl he has a team friendly deal. Crosby is is works if you've got an inexpensive quarterback that I can ride with Jaden Daniels in Washington Drake May Sam Darnold or not Sam Darnold Caleb Williams bone well they don't, they don't need more pass rushers in Denver. Yeah Final story is to the NBA Jalen Brunson went off last night 40 piece but the Knicks lost to the oh boy. 14 win Pacers. Pacers are not a great team this year. Obviously a lot of injuries they trade for Zubots he ain't playing now the Knicks did not have OG anunoby1 of their best defenders and look at that The Pacers drop 137 points. Colin, you remember the immortal Phil Jackson Great coach had a bunch of Phil Jackson isms. He had a 4020 theory. It states that if a team suffers 20 losses before they win 40 they ain't winning the championship. This loss last night was the Knicks 20th. Not great news and especially when you look at the other contenders who apply to 4020 Detroit Pistons, OKC Thunder, San Antonio Spurs. Those are clearly the three best teams and I think the Knicks would be in probably the next tier. I agree totally. But they're in the east though. You know that. Yeah. By the way, Keon Coleman was a second round pick. My bad wasn't a first. Oh, Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think, I think the Knicks if, if Halliburton was healthy and Jason Tatum was healthy, I don't think the Knicks are a, a title team or even a finals team. I still, I'm going to take Detroit over the Knicks. I think it's close but, but I, I, that's. So Phil Jackson's theory was if you lose 20 before you win 40, you're not a title team. Yeah. So the Celtics are at 34 19. They technically could pull it off and the rockets are 33 and 19 so they're right there. Rockets have been leaking oil for a little while now. The injuries, Danvle Adams catching up. But man, I, I'm not selling my Knicks stock. If anything I'm going to add to it. Cullen. I still think they're the cream of the crop in these. All right, that's. What's your favorite team by the way, in the east as a kid? Nicks. Yeah. And I know the Pistons smashed them recently by 40. Pistons are motivated after the Knicks beat them last year. Okay, they are. You just wait till the series comes. If the Knicks are healthy. Knicks in six. All right. Well, I love your optimism. It's almost childlike. It's a very youthful enthusiasm. Well said. I appreciate that. It's like, it's like the kind of enthusiasm you had when you had dual earrings. You just were very optimistic. You woke up and every day was your oyster. Yes, I was. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. Yeah, I think Bears, Patriots 1 and 2 go get Max Crosby. There's nobody in the first round for the next two years, maybe next three, that's going to be as good as Max Crosby. There's not a guy in this draft outside of Fernando Mendoza, potentially, because he's taken 70 snaps a game, especially if the Raiders are trailing. He's throwing a lot. That, that's influence. But none of these other picks are going to have the immediate impact of Max Crosby. Fernando Mendoza. Next year we got a bunch of quarterbacks that could. But if you take out Fernando Mendoza, what player in this draft for the first two years is going to post Max Crosby numbers? Bagel zero. Now, that doesn't mean that guy isn't inexpensive. It doesn't become great. But Max Crosby is a. You're talking about one of the top. I mean, I love when they mike players and you. And they keep the, they keep the, you know, NFL films, they watch them for the entire game. Dude, he is one of those guys that does not take plays off. He is just. He is. I mean, again, he's a 12 year old on a two bags of Skittles. He never stops. It's like relentless energy that is hard to play at that level. And remember the Raiders. Just think how good Max Crosby would be if his team was good. But he's facing teams in the fourth quarter that are running the ball because they lead the Raiders by two touchdowns. Can you imagine if he played on Chicago and you lead late or New England and you lead late and the other team has to pass and Max Crosby can pin his ears back. So Max Crosby usually eight minutes to go, his team trails. They're trying to kill the clock. Now I get 15 late game snacks with snaps with Max Crosby pinning his ears back because the Patriots, the bears lead by 8 or 10. I mean, to me, I don't care about the number that guy I want on my team. 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They pulled nine NFL coaches and executives on the best coaching hires in this cycle. So there were nine first place votes. Best coaching in this cycle, best coaching hires. So let's go look at the results. John Harbaugh, Giants. That was my take as the best hire got six of the nine first place votes. Kevin Stefanski got a vote. Jesse Minter and I guess Joe Brady got a vote. Okay, there you go. But what's interesting, if you add up all the votes, Joe Brady was only the 8th best hire of 10. That is way down that list. People liked Harbos Stefanski, Jesse Minner, Mike McCarthy, Jeff Halfley, Clint Kubiak, Robert Sala. I mean nobody, no votes for Todd Monkin. So way to go Cleveland. But the one I look at is Joe Brady. Joe Brady is way down that list. So think about what's happening in Buffalo. They're already banging on. The fans are already banging on. The fans in the media are banging on Brandon being the GM because of his drafting record. So they've lost a lot of patience in Buffalo with Josh Allen not being surrounded by elite players like a Matt Stafford is or a Sam Darnold is, or Mahomes and his titles were, or Jalen Hurts is or now Caleb Williams is. So here's what's really fascinating about the Joe Brady hire. So again, we all knew Sean McDermott was a very good coach. He may have struggled in January. He was a very good coach. Have you seen Buffalo's schedule this year, folks? They faced the AFC west, the NFC north, plus the Rams and the Houston Texans. These are Joe Brady's coaching opponents this year. Andy Reid, Mike Frable twice, Jim Harbaugh, Ben Johnson, Sean Payton, Sean McVeigh, Matt LaFleur, Demico Ryan's and Dan Campbell. Now he does get Aaron Glenn twice. That helps. Sorry J. Mac, but look at this. That's like those, that's hall of Fame stuff as a rookie head coach without a Pro Bowler defensively. So I don't know, I don't know how I've said before, sometimes I just have to watch stuff. I think Clint Kubiak's a good hire. I gotta see it. I think Fernando Mendoza gonna be A good quarterback, I gotta see it. You ever go to a prize fight, a boxing match, and you think, you know, I went to a couple Pacquiao fights in my life and I'm like, I don't know, middle of second round, I'm like, oh, Pacquiao's gonna win this fight. So, like, I have to see Joe Brady in Buffalo. I have no idea. I thought Sirianni was over his skis completely and he's got a trophy. Here's Joe Brady on becoming the Bills coach. I know it's. I might be in the head coaching role, but I've, to me, I've, I've woke up with the same mindset, same approach every day that I've been coaching. The only difference is I'm going to a different office, right? I know the guys aren't here and, and it's a little different. I'm, you know, I might be on my phone a lot more that I'm usually never on my phone. And I've been on my phone more than I ever have in my life the last week. But my approach, my work ethic, the, the time I'm waking up, nothing's changed. It's kind of who I am. I always root for coaches. It's really hard. You don't see your family. I don't root against coaches. I mean, it's pretty obvious on certain coaches very quickly that's not going to work. I'm not rooting against them. It's just not going to work. Joe Brady may work, but when you look at the coaches he's going to face and he doesn't have a Pro Bowler on defense, that's a lot of good coaches and a lot of good quarterbacks. Speaking of that, this is like, what a nightmare. Honest to God. Andy Reid, Vrabel twice, all these are road games. I mean, he got, he got the short end of the stick on year one coaches. You have to face with high expectations with a GM who's getting all sorts of heat because of his drafting record. His drafting record on offense has been pretty good. Keon Coleman, second round receiver pick, hasn't worked. I liked him in college. I thought it was a good pick. 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