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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - Caleb Williams' breakout with the Bears, Cowboys better off without Micah Parsons, Greg Cosell
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Greg Cosell
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Colin Cowherd
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Rob Parker
J. Mac loaded up on Bo Nicks and the Broncos. They're just waiting for them to screw up over under on Geno Smith getting benched tonight. Would you give it two quarters because Aiden o' Connell was back practicing with.
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Colin Cowherd
The team and he can't move. He's a pocket quarterback if he plays. Take Denver.
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Rob Parker
Geno Smith in prime time last year and this year.05 against the spread.1 and 4 straight up. The lights get bright and Geno Smith shrinks badly.
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Colin Cowherd
What is it with Pete Carroll and Geno Smith? You know Brady didn't want Darnold. There were reports that Brady didn't want Sam Darnold in sea in Vegas.
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Rob Parker
We can ask Tom next time he's in.
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Colin Cowherd
I was saying, it seems to me Sammy's pretty good. You know, I'll say this. The one thing where pro athletes their lives are like our lives is that workplace matters. And for Sas Garden, there's this general consensus that the Colts and the Cowboys, they just paid too much. They gave up too much to get Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams. And when I see Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams. I see excellent players who were in a bad work environment. And now these employees are going to go to very, you know, better situations. I mean, the Colts were missing a corner there. That's going to be a division winning team. Really talented guy in a bad workplace in New York to a better workplace in Indianapolis. And Quinn and Williams, from a bad workplace to a place he plays next to Kenny Clark. So I look at it and that's the one thing. Pro athletes and our lives are very similar. You can only do so much with a bad boss. Anybody that's ever had a bad boss or currently has one should sympathize with Quinn and Williams and Sauce Gardner. Nothing works in New York. It's just a bad place to work. You know, I was looking this morning. Quinn and Williams, six and a half years with the Jets. He got drafted by one gm, he got paid by another, and he got traded by another. Is that the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard? Well, the jets got a bunch of draft picks. So what? That's like giving your loser brother money. He doesn't have any financial ability. I mean, seriously, giving the jets draft picks is giving somebody with no financial literacy a bunch of money. So what? They don't know what to do with it. I mean, we all got that person in the family that, you know, you don't want to be executor of the will. Right. They're fun, they're party time. You know, their name's Doug. You know, they're always got the funny sweater on Christmas. You don't want to give them any money, you don't want to lend them any cash. So I don't care about draft picks. Who's the jets coach, the gm, the quarterback, who knows? Here's Quinn and Williams on becoming a Dallas Cowboy.
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Greg Cosell
I can't wait to get to work because I feel like action should be louder than words. And this organization taking a chance on me and trading for me, giving me the honor to come in and help this team win football games and do.
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Colin Cowherd
The best I can do to do my job. I mean, I don't mean to sound harsh, but you can give people with no financial literacy a bunch of money. They don't know what to do with it. You can give the jets draft picks. I was looking at all the teams that have had multiple first round draft picks the last several years. There's a lot of Raiders on that list. There's a lot of Carolina on that list. Cleveland jets, the Rams have two first round picks. Next year, my, my guess is they know what they're doing, they'll move down, you know, they'll end up getting a third and a fifth along with their two ones. You know, it sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Greg Cosell, 46 years, NFL Films, is joining us live. So, you know, it's interesting if you look at Patrick Mah career, his kryptonite, when they really, really look bad, it's not that the running game's not available. He's won Super Bowls with below average suboptimal receiving cores. Travis Kelsey's had bad games. He still won. He won Super Bowls with mediocre defenses. When he's getting hit and does not trust his protection, that offense does not look the same. So was this just about scheme by Buffalo's defense or was it Bosa and personnel? Why did they get Holmes for three and a half hours?
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Greg Cosell
I think it's a combination, Colin, because what Sean McDermott did, and just so I say right up front, I'm not a blueprint guy, I don't think Mahomes has had obviously great success in this league and he's a great player. So it's not as if, oh, just do what the Bills did and everybody's going to stop Patrick Mahomes. But in this particular game, what the Bills did was they ran a lot of what we call hybrid coverages where there were zone parts of it, there were man parts of it. And all you're trying to do is you're trying to slow down the processing for Patrick Mahomes and that's when the pressure becomes a factor. And he did not really get out of the pocket very much. They did a good job of maintaining him, keeping him in the pocket. So in this given game, I thought it was very schematic in what they did on the back end with their hybrid looks. And therefore he couldn't really get a sense of rhythm. And he's not purely a rhythm player, except when he's throwing the ball short. So it just slowed everything down for him. And then he took way too many hits. I mean, there was one in particular on the sideline. I don't think I've ever seen him hit it like that.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you know, Josh Allen came into this league with so much horsepower, and now he's become so incredibly efficient. And we always sort of had baked it in, Greg, that if you have a big arm, if you're Big Ben, if you're Cam Newton, we don't need you to be Kirk Cousins. You go do Your magic. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll give you a little on the efficiency scale yet with Allen, I get both. He can give me a 22 for a 25 and I get the horsepower. Why has he become so efficient?
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Greg Cosell
Well, I'm sure a lot of it has to do with him in the off season. We know, I'm sure you know, Jordan Palmer, he's worked with him for years and I think that he's, he's what they call a rotational thrower. So when you're a rotational thrower, I think you have to really work on that as opposed to being a linear thrower where everything is lined up exactly straight. When you're rotational, you can throw the ball from different angles, different ways ways. And I think you have to really become good at that. So now I think they also understood, and this is where I think Joe Brady did a very good job when he became the coordinator is. I think schematically they've tried to rein him in to a certain degree, to allow him to play with a much more defined sense of timing and rhythm rather than just, hey, you know, you hear so many people say things about certain quarterbacks. Well, let this guy be this guy. Let Josh be Josh. That's all well and good, but at some point you've got to play the game within structure. And you can argue that the Bills offensively, and they do score a lot of points, Colin, that offensively they're one of the most structured teams in the NFL with the combination of their run game and their pass game and their pass game at times, actually, sometimes I feel like there could be more to it. But if you're going to score 30 points a game, I guess that's a tough argument to make.
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Colin Cowherd
So Green Bay is the youngest team in the league. Seattle's offense, Seattle's second. So Donald, when he leaves Minnesota, there were a lot of people that thought, okay, it's going to come down, he's not going to look like that. Well, right now analytics tells you he's as good as any quarterback in the league. Are you surprised that how successful he's been in Seattle? We didn't even know if JSN was a number one receiver. Like, are you surprised by what you're seeing?
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Greg Cosell
Yes and no. But by the way, JSN, 80% of his routes this year of his snaps have been as an outside receiver. And if you recall, a lot of people said when they signed Cooper cup, what are they doing? They have two slot receivers. Well, they obviously knew JSN could line up outside, which he's done, as I said, on 80% of his snaps. But I'm not surprised with Darnold for this reason. He's really gifted, as you know. You know Darnold well, but he's a certain kind of player, you know, he's not necessarily a sit back in the pocket, read it, scan it, see it all. So what Clint Kubiak. And Clint Kubiak is the one who wanted him. He sort of comes a bit from that Shanahan Kubiak tree of play action, play action boot define the reads and the throws. Push it down the field. Off the run action looks. And that's where Darnold is really, really good. And he does throw the ball very well on the run. So it's a classic case of matching what a quarterback does really well because he does have some things he doesn't do well of matching what he does really well with the scheme. And you see how successful. There's a perfect example on that play action boot worked perfectly. They got the long touchdown to Cody White.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, Rasheed Saheed is a burner. How does that. How. I mean, that feels like to me, that plays into Darnold. What do you project there?
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Greg Cosell
Yes. Well, first of all, there's very few guys in the league column that have what I call terrifying speed, and he's one of them. And now they're a team that plays a lot with two tight ends, 12 personnel, as we call it, two tight ends. So what happens a lot when you play that way is you get a defense that sees the formation, the personnel, the formations, and they think run. So they play a lot with a single high safety. So now you're going to get an opportunity to really work the intermediate and vertical route concepts. Off shot plays, off run action. And you have to account for Shahid. And now on the other side, you're going to have jsn. This is a real that trade to me. Maybe it was overlooked by some people because Shahid's not a star in the way we think of stars, but that may have been one of the most impactful trades that were made on Tuesday.
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Colin Cowherd
So J.J. mcCarthy and we see this, we saw it with Caleb early in the year, very good on script. And then the last three quarters, not good at all. I said when I watch him play with Minnesota, I see a lot of Michigan. J.J. mcCarthy. Where at Michigan. I love the coach Harbaugh. I. I love some of the weapons, Justin Jefferson or Colston Loveland, and I love the Defense, and I thought the defense against Detroit was sensational. And he makes about one to two big throws a game. J.J. mcCarthy, overall, I don't see him somebody carrying a franchise. But, you know, again, I liked Michigan's supporting cast. I like Kevin o', Connell, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison. The left tackle, Brian Flores. What did the film say on JJ McCarthy?
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Greg Cosell
Yeah, McCarthy to me, has something that in some ways it reminds me of Alex Smith and what I'm about to say. And this concerns me as he develops. He's what we call Colin. I'm going to be a little tutorial here on quarterback mechanics. He's what call a locked front leg thrower. So when he steps in, he locks his front leg. So what happens when you lock your front leg? It's like running into a wall. You can't really transfer your weight. You don't get any core torque. So if you watch him throw, you'll notice that it looks like he's working hard to throw the ball. Now, I don't think his arm, just as an arm is bad, but it limits your ability to drive the football because you can't really bring your core into your thr. There's been quarterbacks throughout the years like that. Alex Smith, as I said, is a great example. And based on what you said, you might think he's very much like an Alex Smith in the way he's gonna have to play. And by the way, Alex Smith, on teams he was on won a lot of football games. So you can win. But I think it'll be interesting to see how his career progresses. But you're right. And by the way, Brian Flores did an unbelievable job in that game against the Lions. And you know what stood out watching that tape? The pressure in the A gap. And you know why the pressure in the A gap was so important? Because you know what that did? It made Jameer Gibbs have to stay in to pass protect. And that may not seem like a big deal when you're watching the game, but therefore he's not getting out in space and killing them as a receiver. I don't know how many times I didn't count it. I don't know how many times Jameer Gibbs had a pass protect because of a gap pressure. It had to be definitely more than 10. And that really handicapped the Lions pass game.
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Colin Cowherd
So I just went on a rant about the jets. And when a workplace environment's lousy and then you go to a good work environment, the same employee can be a different employee. Sauce Gardner with Robert Sala was Excellent in the last couple years. He's bad. Well, he didn't get. He didn't lose length, speed. He didn't lose intelligence. He didn't lose any of those qualities. It's just a bad work environment. Sauce Gardner, the Colts. Chris Ballard told me years ago, we were texting, he said there's a cornerback shortage in the league. He goes, everybody can find a third or a fourth great receiver. Nobody can find a second good corner. It's hard. They're not out there. So I like the move by the Colts. What do you make of it?
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Greg Cosell
Yeah, and that's why I think it's hard to look at what Gardner's done the last year, year and a half, because there are not many guys at 6, 3, 210 pounds that move like he does. You know, there's not a ton of those guys. Guys. So, again, we're not in New York. You know, we don't know the environment, but obviously it has to wear on you after a certain amount of time. But, you know, he'll obviously step right in and start and play. I guess they play overseas this weekend, but the Colts are a team that plays a lot of different coverage schemes, so it's not as if foundationally they do one thing. And I think he's got the ability to pretty much play any coverage scheme that you want him to play. They actually have a very good defense. Colin. I mean, everybody's been talking for the most part about Daniel Jones and Taylor and the offense, and deservedly so. And by the way, I didn't think Daniel Jones was as bad as maybe a lot of people fought this past week. But just talk about their defense. They've got a lot of good players at all three levels of their defense. This is. This is going to be a real interesting team to watch.
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Colin Cowherd
I want to talk, if I. If I could, about Dak in Arizona on. On Monday night. Forget Arizona. Jacoby Brissette's a pro. He. You know, the Dallas defense isn't good when Dak struggles like that. Is it pressure? Is it coaching? I didn't think it was a good night for Dallas's coaching staff. And by the way, great coaches have bad nights. What did you make of Dallas's offense?
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Greg Cosell
Yeah, I thought it was. It was a tough watch watching their offense. And. And, you know, Dak, we've talked about this over the years. You know, Dak is a good player, no question, but at this point in his career, he doesn't have the same movement that he once had. He's essentially at his core now a pocket player. So he's a ball distributor. He's an executor of an offense. It needs to be in rhythm, it needs to be in timing. If it's not clear to him, for whatever reason, the defense takes it away, he feels a little pressure, then he's not going to play quite as well. It's just the way it is. But there are some games where he's really very, very good. He certainly is a veteran who sees things. But every once in a while, you know, I remember years ago, Ron Jaworski telling me that there's two games a year where you just don't see right way. And I got that impression watching the tape of him the other night. It just. It just didn't seem comfortable. He didn't seem like a comfortable player. And that can happen. And by the way, Arizona does have a defense that does a lot of things that can make it difficult for quarterbacks.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. All right. There's two games this weekend getting a lot of attention. One of them Philadelphia at Green Bay.
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Greg Cosell
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
So you got to be careful. Green Bay has lost to Cleveland, Carolina, but they can play with the best teams in the league. Does Green Bay match up with Phillies personnel?
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Greg Cosell
You mean overall, like the roster?
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Greg Rosenthal
Yes.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, when you. When you look at what you've seen on film from Green Bay, I. Here's what I've said about Green Bay, Greg. They're a team with talent, but I don't know what they are. What is your identity? I think they want to run, and they're not terribly effective at it.
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Greg Cosell
They haven't been this year. And man lafleur always wants to run because he comes from the Shanahan School, so he definitely wants the run game to be a strong foundation. Last week was an odd game for them, Colin. They had eight possessions, they never punted, and they scored 13 points. That's a very odd game. Now, they had a fumble in the red zone. But the run game this year has not been what it's been the last couple of years with Jacobs, and it's hard to know why, but it just hasn't been the same. And look, I think Love's a really good player. He had a really reckless interception last week, which he doesn't do very much, but it was a very odd game. If you look at Love's game on tape and then his numbers, they were fine. It wasn't as if he had a bad game. That's the interception that was just reckless and undisciplined. But you know they're starting to lose receivers. We have always said, boy, they've got a ton of receivers, but now they're starting to lose receivers to injury. Tucker Kraft is out for the season. I'm really anxious to see from your old neck of the woods in the Pacific Northwest, Musgrave, because when Musgrave came out, he was hurt his last year at Oregon, but he was considered a really big time prospect. I did his tape. He's faster than Kraft, you know. Now I'm not saying he's as good. Not as good. We don't know that because he wasn't used as their number one tight end. He will be now, but he's got a lot of juice to him. So I'm very curious to see how that fits into their offense.
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Colin Cowherd
Also another game, the Rams and the Niners. Now the Niners are plagued with injuries. I'm kind of. I've always been fat. I'm fascinated when you can go get a Puka who I watched at Washington and BYU and then he goes to McVeigh. And from the very first training camp, Stafford was telling people, this kid, this Puka kid is unbelievable. He's not the fastest guy. I do think he's physically strong. When you watch this Rams offense, how crucial is Puka now over in London, he didn't play and they used four tight ends. And Devonte Adams now is a growing relationship with Stafford. Stafford had no camp. How important is Puka in this offense and why does he succeed at the level he does?
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Greg Cosell
Well, there's a couple of things going on here. First of all, the last two games they played, they played a lot with three tight ends on the field, which is crazy. Last week they had 35 snaps with three tight ends on the field. But I think McVay understands exactly what Puka Nakua is. He's not what we call a true boundary X where he lines up as the isolated or single receiver, receiver to one side of the field and you let him just win one on one. He's not that guy. In fact, only two of his 198 routes this year have been where he's been an isolated receiver. That's why they went out and got Davonte Adams, because he is that guy. That's how they use him. But McVay understands what Nakua is. They use him as a movement guy. They use him as part of two and three route combinations. They get him off the line cleanly. He runs a lot of in breaking routes and that's where he's so Good, because he's so physically strong and he's a great player within the context of how he's used and what Sean McVay understands his strengths to be. I'm not sure, no matter what his numbers are, Colin and I would think you would agree. I'm not sure anybody would say, just as a physical talent, that you're going to put him in the Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase category, but he's a great player within the context of that offense.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Fit matters in life and in sports. Let's look at. So let's, let's do some Caleb Williams. We'll end our segment on a Thursday here in the Herd. First of all, what did the tape say? Let's just simplify here. What did the tape say with Caleb against the Bengals?
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Greg Cosell
I thought, and again, we know the Bengals are a bad defense, but that's not what I'm looking at. I thought this was a game, maybe the first one this year, where I thought the combination of looking at what Ben Johnson did offensively and I said to myself, oh, this is a Ben Johnson offense. This is what we want to see from Ben Johnson. This reminded me of the Lions offense seeing the same concepts and it was a game where I thought that Caleb really started to get a feel for those concepts. Now there's still throws where he's a beat late. There's still times where there's just a little too much freneticism in the pocket and he gets out of there and it just looks random. That's what he has to continue to develop. But I got to tell you, Colin, and you know this, I mean, this kid, particularly on the move, he's got a power hose now.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, it's incredible.
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Greg Cosell
He throws as pretty a ball as you'll see in the league, but there's still work to do. But it just started. There were some plays in this game where I just felt like, oh yeah, this is the way Ben Johnson wants it to look. And I'm actually going to show one of those. And it's funny, I actually watched the Lions offense after I watched Caleb Williams this week and I saw the same, same play. So we're going to go to this play. This was a 39 yarder to Loveland, okay? And this was in the second half and this is Ben Johnson, a classic Ben Johnson play. You're going to see Williams under center here and what they have here is 6o line personnel. And this is something that the Lions did. It's something that Ben Johnson likes to do and There's a tight end now up top and it's closed to the boundary. So it means there's no one wide to the boundary side of the field. It's closed to the boundary. So what you're going to get is a dunesay and Loveland stacked to the wide side of the field. So this personnel, this formation, it says to the defense, hey, it's a run look. So it's single high. So now you're going to see what the route concept is. It's dagger. This is a Ben Johnson special. It's an inside vertical by Edunze and a dig route by Loveland. So what you end up with is you. You're going to get essentially a two on two kind of matchup because you're going to get the corner playing Loveland and obviously you've got the safety in the deep middle. Now then you run play action under center. That's something else that's very representative of Ben Johnson. So you get the play action under center, which they're doing more and more of now, and that's critical. So you get that. Now what happens? You get a dunze, he's going to get the safety out of there. So now what's going to happen because you only have the single high safety is the whole middle of the field becomes open and you get Loveland. And by the way, Loveland can beat corners and that's why he's running this route. So Loveland now works into a void in the middle of the field. There's no one there. And look at this throw. I mean, this is just one of those where this is a beautifully thrown ball to Loveland. It's 31 yards. You see it really well from this angle. I mean, the ball comes out of Caleb Williams hands beautifully. He just needs to be a little more consistently precise with his ball location and he just needs to become a little quicker with how he sees things and how he delivers the football. But there's a lot of talent there.
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Colin Cowherd
Greg Cosell on a Thursday, as always. Great stuff. Appreciate it.
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Greg Cosell
Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the. I know you were all worked up on all the gifts that the jets got, but even you would have to acknowledge is if you look at this league of teams that have had two first round picks, it's a lot of Raiders, it's a lot of Panthers, it's a lot of Cleveland. And that's my take is it's giving. It's like giving somebody with no financial literacy a small Powerball win. They'll screw it up I mean I, I knew the jets were broken when they fired Salah as he was going to Buffalo with a chance to be tied for first. And Salah was the best coach on the staff. Right. And it's like guys, you got to identify, you have to self scout, you have to identify in, in any business who are the best employees, who are the weak spots. Solid was your best coach and you let him go. And to me at that, since that point on I've looked at the Jets. It's like they just can't get it out of their own way. They can't even identify their own best employees.
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Rob Parker
Yeah, that was a flub for sure. But listen, the jets have crushed the draft before. I mean a few years ago, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, Breeze hall, like they had an awesome draft, they just didn't have a quarterback. Aaron Rodgers let them down. He got hurt. Well, I don't know what you could do about that. So just because you failed in the past, a different regime, I don't see why you shouldn't be taking more shots in the future. Come on, what was it? What's a Michael Jordan quote? I missed more shots than I missed more game winning shots than I made or something like that.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't think that's it.
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Rob Parker
Oh you know I'm close. I'm in the ballpark. Bottom line, you got to keep shooting, keep firing. Don't give up just because you failed draft picks in the past. Come on, I got six months to identify a quarterback. Less than that. Probably like five to identify a quarterback. If you want I think or you old on Colin. You could go the Giants route. Take a defensive player in the top three and take your quarterback at the end of the first round if you don't think there's one there.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Mendoza, Indiana is going to win it. Well no everybody now again you don't know. You have to watch everybody. I think what's happening is Dante more people like he may go back to Oregon. Mendoza is the play.
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Rob Parker
It's Mendoza or Simpson right now. We'll see.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Mendoza is a bigger, stronger athlete smart.
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Rob Parker
Have you checked his LinkedIn page recently?
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Colin Cowherd
No.
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Rob Parker
He's the updates that he's a genius.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the kid's really smart. We're in LA. It's the herd. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app app search heard to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the odd couple on Fox Sports Radio. And in addition to hearing us live.
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Greg Cosell
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Colin Cowherd
Announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. That's right, you can now watch the Odd couple live on YouTube every day. All you got to do, search Odd.
- [30:20]
Marcus Grant
Couple FSR on YouTube again, YouTube.
- [30:23]
Colin Cowherd
Just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out on YouTube and subscribe.
- [30:29]
Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
- [30:42]
Colin Cowherd
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people come out. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
- [30:53]
Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
- [31:03]
Colin Cowherd
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
- [31:06]
Katie Couric
Okay, okay, wait. I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
- [31:21]
Colin Cowherd
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
- [31:27]
Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Next Question with Katie Couric and listen now, what do you get when.
- [31:34]
Wilmer Valderrama
You mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arnaz, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe most importantly, the first Latino to break Primetime Wide open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama. And yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story.
- [31:56]
Greg Cosell
From cleaning canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways.
- [32:01]
Wilmer Valderrama
On the podcast, starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama, I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life. The moments it has overlapped with mine. How he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like ours on screen. This is the story of how one man spotlight led the path for so many others and how we carry his legacy. Today. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your.
- [32:33]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
Podcast on the podcast Health stuff. We are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
- [32:39]
Colin Cowherd
Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician.
- [32:43]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
And I'm Hari Kundabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.
- [32:49]
Colin Cowherd
Talking about health in a different way.
- [32:52]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.
- [32:55]
Colin Cowherd
What our health says about us and the way we're living.
- [32:58]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
Like our episode where we look at.
- [33:00]
Colin Cowherd
Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
- [33:05]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
How preventable is type 2?
- [33:08]
Colin Cowherd
Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.
- [33:15]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible. But like you don't even know.
- [33:22]
Colin Cowherd
You don't know, you don't know. It's going to be a fun ride.
- [33:27]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
So tune in, listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [33:35]
Marcus Grant
Hey y', all, it's me, your man, M.G. marcus Grant.
- [33:37]
Colin Cowherd
And I'm Michael F. Florio. And I'm Laquan Jones.
- [33:40]
Marcus Grant
If you're looking to win your fantasy football league, you need to tune in to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast. It's right there in the name. Every week, Florio, LQ and I bring you the latest news from around the league. We break down every matchup, give you our analysis and advice so you know who to start, sit, drop and trade to bring that championship trophy home.
- [34:00]
Colin Cowherd
I just want to remind everyone how good Rasheed Rice was last season. In these three healthy games, he was the wide receiver. Two in fantasy I think Rasheed Rice just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip pass to Rice near side. Touchdown.
- [34:13]
Greg Rosenthal
Ramandre Stevens is my sleeper this week. This is a matchup where I think.
- [34:17]
Colin Cowherd
I can slot Biden Stevenson in my flex position and he could deliver double digit points. This week, Drake takes the snap, hands it off for moderate running it right and running into the end zone.
- [34:26]
Greg Cosell
Touchdown.
- [34:27]
Marcus Grant
It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [34:37]
Greg Rosenthal
Hey, it's Greg Rosenthal, host of NFL Daily. No matter the day, NFL Daily has fresh content in your feedback need. Last week's games, we recapped them.
- [34:45]
Colin Cowherd
The unexpected happened in so many of these games and and I love it. This week was like the defensive line.
- [34:51]
Marcus Grant
Stepping in, getting a stop on 4th and goal.
- [34:53]
Colin Cowherd
Get the the old mo back on your side.
- [34:55]
Greg Rosenthal
It was a lot of good defensive stops, including in the game of the day. This week's games we previewed him. He is the best quarterback in the league this year. He reminds me a little bit of Tom Brady in his later years and this is a compliment. He's no longer hanging in quite as much to take those big hits because he's playing the long game. They're not going to get pressure on him. I news flash, it's not going to happen. I think they smoke him and so much more. For all you football sickos, listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [35:27]
Colin Cowherd
Of the many societal issues that are pressing. What I like to drink is not near the top. But I was thinking about this two days days ago I had a cappuccino and forever I was a coffee guy and I, I refused to go to these coffee places because they're so outrageously expensive. Then I became a cafe Americano guy. Rick Bucher said you should try an Americano like two years ago. I did. Loved it. And somebody else the other day said you should get a cappuccino. This point forward, I think I've changed. I think it's cappuccinos or nothing. They're delicious. I even did it with almond milk milk. It's just terrific. So going forward, if you want to buy me something and just be and be nice to me and you could just offer to buy me a cappuccino and I'd like you more for that. J. Mac with a nose.
- [36:12]
Greg Cosell
No, no, no.
- [36:13]
Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
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Rob Parker
I was trying to think of something witty that I you could buy me. I'll buy you cappuccinos. All right, let's get started with the Baltimore Ravens. Colin, they seem back right? They've won back to back games. Lamar had 400, sorry, four touchdowns and 238 yards passing. However, only five rushing attempts. He didn't look a hundred percent. He did address those rumors about the hamstring, saying he's being cautious. The speculations of what I'm saying are totally different. I feel good. I feel like I did what I needed to do to win. Ravens 4 1/2 at Minnesota. Really interesting game here. Nothing would surprise me if the Vikings won this, this but you know Lamar against the nfc. He's faced Brian Flores twice. I don't know if you remember the Miami game against Baltimore.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I. I think this is one of my favorite plays of the weekend. Is the Ravens a minus four and a half.
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Katie Couric
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Again, this game is urgent. If. If I go into a game and I have to win it, and I go into a game with the superior quarterback who now is finally healthy, I get probably the better roster.
- [37:22]
Rob Parker
Well, the Ravens defense is not great yet.
- [37:24]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. But J.J. mcCarthy can't do anything. He can't.
- [37:27]
Rob Parker
He just went into Detroit and beat the Lions.
- [37:30]
Colin Cowherd
I would. I think he made the key pass.
- [37:33]
Rob Parker
On third down and whatever to keep. To end the game. Basically back shoulder throw to Jalen Naylor. I mean, that was impressive.
- [37:40]
Colin Cowherd
Why do you. Why do you always like these quarterbacks who are a little small, who don't quite have the arm?
- [37:46]
Rob Parker
What are you saying?
- [37:46]
Colin Cowherd
What are you.
- [37:47]
Rob Parker
Let's just move on. I know you're a little combative with this cold you've got. Let's move on to the New England Patriots. They were expected to be buyers at the trade deadline. At that. Given that they're 7 and 2, they got a young team, but New England stood pat and Mike Vrabel was asked about it. He's got an amazing quote. Here we go.
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Greg Cosell
Deals are like being pregnant. You either are or you aren't. There's no, like, it's either a deal or it's not. So I don't know how close you can be. I know that everyone worked hard that we investigated and looked in and made phone calls and they. What personnel departments do. And in the end, you know, we decided that this was what we were going to do.
- [38:33]
Colin Cowherd
I. I like them not moving. I think they're way ahead of schedule, honestly.
- [38:38]
Rob Parker
Like quarterback on the rookie deal, though, could you have pushed? I mean, the Colts are freaking all in.
- [38:42]
Colin Cowherd
For the record, most trade deadline deals don't pan out. They don't. Most don't. That's why the smart GMs usually go small. C plus, B minus player. The Colts went all in. Now, I think the Colts look at it as, we're really good in every unit. We got to have a number one corner. And I. And I do. There is something to be said. Like, Chris Ballard looks at it and thinks, okay, this Daniel Jones magic carpet ride, does it last forever or does he have confidence? We have the right protection, we have the right young pieces. So I kind of. I like Ballard saying, we're going for it. We're going to take a big swing here. And again, I think Sauce Gardner's really good player, but I think New England you look at them, I think they're way ahead of schedule.
- [39:35]
Rob Parker
Who's more likely to end up in the AFC championship, Patriots or Colts?
- [39:39]
Greg Cosell
Because the Colts went all in.
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Rob Parker
The Patriots.
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Colin Cowherd
Patriots. Interesting, because I think they have a better quarterback.
- [39:44]
Rob Parker
So why wouldn't you go all in if you really think they're that close?
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Colin Cowherd
You know, my take is they spent a fortune on free agency. They spent like, I'm. I'm sure I'm wrong on this. $290 million in free agency. So they're probably looking at it, thinking, listen, we spent our. We took our big shot in the off season. We'll do something if the valuation works, but we're not going to go big. Listen, when Christian Gonzalez plays at corner, they don't lose six. And oh.
- [40:12]
Rob Parker
So practicing this week just for that.
- [40:13]
Colin Cowherd
I. I don't think. I think the Colts have more elite players than New England, but I think New England's way ahead of schedule. A year ahead of schedule.
- [40:21]
Rob Parker
Anything on Patriots bucks? I know you love the Patriots.
- [40:25]
Colin Cowherd
Well, the Bucks are still all beat up. No, I mean, it's amazing. Nobody's practicing.
- [40:29]
Rob Parker
Still not back. Godwin not back. We know Evans is Cook, but they're off a buy. Yes. Teams off a buy this year, really good numbers tomorrow. But it sounds like maybe you're leaning Bucks here.
- [40:41]
Colin Cowherd
Yep.
- [40:41]
Rob Parker
I think under a field goal. Yeah, I would agree finally, to the NBA. Colin, you know the Dallas Mavericks, your pick to go to the. Oh, my gosh. NBA Finals. So Cooper flag did not start out at point guard last night, and they decided, oh, we're going to change things up. We're not going to do well. Also, Klay Thompson now coming off the bench. Klay Thompson really on the struggle bus this season. So they started me. Angelo. I'm sorry. D' Angelo Russell. The Mavs lost to the hapless winless Pelicans here. Jason Kid.
- [41:09]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Okay. Jason Kidd.
- [41:13]
Greg Cosell
Just looking at when we have a point guard on the floors, it's been all right. And so talked to Clay, asked, this isn't a permanent thing, but can you come off the bench? And he was good. He was good with it. And so I thought him coming off the bench gave us a spark. That first group was, for whatever reason, a little tight. You know, everybody's trying to play perfect.
- [41:38]
Colin Cowherd
You know, Cooper's giving you about 15 a night.
- [41:41]
Rob Parker
He's playing good.
- [41:42]
Colin Cowherd
He had one really bad game against okc. Okay. Take that game out. And he's closer to 18 a night. He's been really good. He had like this is always the case with young players. They have stinkers, they get into foul trouble. They just. It's a bad matchup. If you take one OKC game out, he's given you 18 a night. He's been a good player.
- [42:01]
Rob Parker
We forget Luka elevated everybody on that roster when he was there. Everyone. There's nobody to do that now. And Kyrie Irving ain't doing that when he comes back. If he comes back. I don't think this is a playoff team, Colin. In the. In the West. I. I don't.
- [42:15]
Colin Cowherd
Can we look at that Western? I mean, the west is so low. Have you seen who Golden State's losing, too?
- [42:20]
Rob Parker
Well, they didn't have anybody last night. They blew it against the Kings. I think Russell Westbrook talking all kinds of junk after the game. NBA is fun, man. There's just a lot of games. You can't get too excited.
- [42:29]
Colin Cowherd
What was Wemby like in person?
- [42:31]
Rob Parker
I was super impressed. Now he got in foul trouble.
- [42:34]
Colin Cowherd
Yep.
- [42:34]
Rob Parker
So the new book on Wembley. Here we go. In the Western Conference, you do not see the Mavs in there because they're nowhere near.
- [42:40]
Colin Cowherd
Lasers are a fun watch.
- [42:42]
Rob Parker
They beat the Thunder last night. Nice win. So real quick on. On Wemby. What they're doing now is they're switching everything. They're not keeping a big guy on him. So, like, Marcus smarts on him. Jake Laravia. And when he gets it outside the paint, instant double team. And he's forced to give it up. I mean, he's not getting by two guys wiring. But the Suns did that this week, beat him, and now the Lakers did it. I think Wemby's going to see a lot of that. So how he combats the double teams, we'll see. He needs de' Aaron Fox back, by the way. Really misses him. He's a good point guard, man.
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Katie Couric
Yeah.
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Pharmaceutical Advertiser
Yeah, he is.
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Colin Cowherd
J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd Lie News. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app.
- [43:29]
Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress, and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
- [43:42]
Colin Cowherd
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
- [43:52]
Katie Couric
His fighting oligarchy tour with AOC and other young Progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
- [44:03]
Colin Cowherd
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
- [44:06]
Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
- [44:21]
Colin Cowherd
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
- [44:27]
Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search next question with Katie Couric and listen.
- [44:31]
Wilmer Valderrama
Now, what do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arnaz, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe most importantly, the first Latino to break primetime Wide open. I'm Willmer Valderrama. And yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story.
- [44:56]
Greg Cosell
From cleaning canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways.
- [45:01]
Wilmer Valderrama
On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama, I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life. The moments it has overlapped with mine. How he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like ours on screen. This is the story of how one man spotlight led the pan path for so many others and how we carry his legacy today. Listen to Starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
- [45:34]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
- [45:39]
Colin Cowherd
Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician.
- [45:43]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.
- [45:49]
Colin Cowherd
Talking about health in a different way.
- [45:52]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.
- [45:55]
Colin Cowherd
What our health says about us and the way we're living.
- [45:58]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
Like our episode where we look at.
- [45:59]
Colin Cowherd
Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
- [46:05]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
How preventable is type 2?
- [46:08]
Colin Cowherd
Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.
- [46:15]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible. But like you don't even know.
- [46:22]
Colin Cowherd
You don't know. You don't know. It's going to be a fun ride.
- [46:27]
Dr. Priyanka Walley
So tune in, listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [46:35]
Marcus Grant
Hey y', all, it's me, your man, M.G. marcus Grant.
- [46:37]
Colin Cowherd
And I'm Michael F. Florio. And I'm Laquan Jones.
- [46:40]
Marcus Grant
If you're looking to win your fantasy football league, you need to tune in to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's right there in the name. Every week, Florio, LQ and I bring you the latest news from around the league. We break down every matchup, give you our analysis and advice so you know who to start, sit, drop and trade to bring that championship trophy home.
- [47:00]
Colin Cowherd
I just want to remind everyone how good Rasheed Rice was last season. In these three healthy games, he was the wide receiver. Receiver 2 in fantasy I think Rasheed Rice just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip pass to Rice near side. Touchdown.
- [47:13]
Greg Rosenthal
Ramandre Stevenson is my sleeper this week. This is a matchup where I think.
- [47:16]
Colin Cowherd
I can slide in Stevenson in my flex position and he could deliver double digit points this week. Drake takes the snap, hands it off for Madre, running it right and running into the end zone.
- [47:26]
Greg Cosell
Touchdown.
- [47:27]
Marcus Grant
It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL Fantasy Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [47:36]
Greg Rosenthal
Hey, it's Greg Rosenthal, host of NFL Daily. No matter the day, NFL Daily has fresh content in your feed. Last week's games, we recapped them.
- [47:45]
Colin Cowherd
The unexpected happened in so many of these games and and I love it. This week was like the defensive line.
- [47:51]
Marcus Grant
Stepping in, getting a stop on 4th and goal.
- [47:53]
Colin Cowherd
Get the the old mo back on your side.
- [47:55]
Greg Rosenthal
It was a lot of good defensive stops including in the game of the day, this week's game, games we previewed him. He is the best quarterback in the league this year. He reminds me a little bit of Tom Brady in his later years and this is a compliment. He's no longer hanging in quite as much to take those big hits because he's playing the long game. They're not going to get pressure on him. I news flash, it's not going to happen. I think they smoke them and so much more. For all you football sickos, listen to NFL Daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
- [48:25]
Rob Parker
Yes, start your Saturday strong with the unstoppable second ranked Hoosiers all eyes are on Fernando Mendoza as he leads Indiana and continues his Heisman campaign against Penn State. It all starts with big noon kickoff at 10am Eastern. Then it's Indiana, Penn State, Big noon Saturday only on Fox.
- [48:47]
Colin Cowherd
It's interesting. You know everybody. I always love the public. Don't listen to the media when it comes to politics. The blue team is raising funds at a great rate right now. The blue team had a great early week. This idea that one political party is going to run this country for any extended period is complete nonsense. The public doesn't like extreme. The public can feel. The economy doesn't feel quite right. And the blue team has a big night. Shocker. It continues to happen. Trust your gut. I always trust the people. I don't trust the people talking about politics. I trust the people voting on the politics. So when Ben Johnson got hired, people may forget this. Ben Johnson was offered another job. He was offered a job and mid flight decided to turn the plane around. I'm not going to take the job. And a lot of us, myself included, were like, are you going to go back to Detroit? Can you top what you're doing in Detroit? So Ben Johnson eventually takes a job in Chicago and he took it for a large degree, not because they were particularly well run, but he knew the division and Caleb Williams was super talented and he thought to himself, well, I've got all this production with Jared Goff. This kid in Chicago's got more talent than Jared Goff. And so when he was with the Lions, Ben Johnson's offense was third in big plays with Jared Goff. Now it's number one in the league in big plays. And Greg Cosell came on 40 minutes ago to talk about Ben Johnson's impact with this Bears offense.
- [50:22]
Greg Cosell
I thought this was a game, maybe the first one this year where I thought the combination of looking at what Ben Johnson did offensively and I said to myself, oh, this is a Ben Johnson offense. This is what we want to see from Ben Johnson. There's still times where there's just a little too much freneticism in the pocket and he gets out of there and it just looks random. That's what he has to continue to develop. But I got to tell you, Colin, and you know this, I mean, this kid, particularly on the move, he's got a power hose now.
- [50:53]
Colin Cowherd
Also, the Bears are second in the NFL in rushing. I think Buffalo's first. So there. We always think there's a gap in quarterback play, but you know, there's a big gap in coaching in this League there's a big gap in coordinators and owners, in general managers and I, I, everybody that I've talked to, Texan in the league, they all think Ben Johnson is next level. Kevin O', Connell, McVeigh Shanahan level, just a next level coordinator. And it takes time. But when you, when you watch the Bears play, they've just got, they got a lot of, they got a lot of jet fuel. They've got a lot the ability to make big plays at any part on the field. And it's again, he was the hot commodity in coaching and he has delivered on it. Usually you get seven openings a year in the NFL. There's always one guy that gets a job and you kind of know it's going to work like either it's a good organization like Mike Vrabel this year was obviously going to work. Jim Harbaugh last year to the Chargers was obviously going to work. Sean Payton 2 years ago To Denver. Yeah, that was a no brainer. They had dead cap. Hell with Russell Wilson's contract. Coaches matter. You've got to pay 10 million plus. So there's a lot of things you can go cheap on in business or in life. You can't on the coach. I, it's amazing to me. I'm trying to think of the best coach available right now. That's why I keep saying keep your eye on Lane Kiffin. If I was the New York jets or the New York Giants, I would consider Lane Kiffin. Jackson dart loved him at Ole Miss. Reunite those two. It feels like Lane Kiffin who coached in the NFL but it was an older Al Davis, highly flammable, highly dysfunctional. Al Davis loved jamarcus Russell. Lane Kiffin warned him it's not going to work in the NFL and it didn't. Lane was right. So Lane's grown. I'm not sure if there is a great candidate. Some have suggested Bill Belichick from, from Carolina. But I do think and this isn't a shot at Bill, I think Bill's best days are over. I don't think he has the energy and I think he, you know, Bill is a little like Jerry Jones right now. Bill Belichick is that they're, they're only willing to do. There are stipulations to their performance. Belichick only wants to coach certain players. You can't have stipulations. You just have to get the best players. Jerry Jones, I'll hire a coach, but I want control. Well, you're not going to get control with Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton. So the best, the best coaches right now, the best candidates to me, Mike McCarthy, who's a good B plus candidate, Jesse Minter, defensive coordinator, who's got kind of a Mike McDonald, Seahawks feel, and Lane Kiffin. So one's a great college coach, one's won a Super bowl, and one's a coordinator. But with the jets, you've done the coordinator multiple times. It's not working. If I, if I was the Jets, I would go get Mike McCarthy, I would go get a proven B plus coach, give him Mendoza out of Indiana and use those picks. I think the jets have to go head coach. You know, the other openings in the league, I wouldn't have a problem with Jesse Minter. So I'm not saying coordinators can't work, but in the jets case, it's time to go spend some money. Spend 10 million bucks and get a, get a pro.
- [54:25]
Rob Parker
Couldn't you argue that Glenn, who was in Detroit with Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell struggled when he was hired by Detroit. Remember, they started like one in seven that one year before turning it around. You got to give Glenn a little more time. How many coaches have the jets had in the last like six years? Can't keep cycling through. You got to give them another year at least. You've seen nothing. They fought hard.
- [54:46]
Colin Cowherd
He's not good handling the media. He's not good situationally. I don't see a lot I like. I mean offensively. Just doesn't feel like he's got any say any. That's something to consider. I, I, I'd like a head coach I, I like. Mike McCarthy with the Jets. Today's episode brought to you by a scent that's made a legendary comeback. Degree Original Cool Rush. The OG is back and better than ever. Cool Rush. Cool Rush isn't just a scent. It's a movement kind of fragrance guys remember, ask for by name and rave about online. It's bold. It's fresh all day. Sweat protection, cool, crisp vibe that made it legendary. So whether you're heading to the gym, the office, or just trying to stay fresh all day long, Cool Rush has your back. So if you haven't tried it yet, head to your local Walmart. Grab degree Cool Rush, the fan favorite scent from the world's number one antiperspirant brand.
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years, and today he even throws a few questions my way.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, are you ready for another question? Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.
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Katie Couric
We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Wilmer Valderrama
What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arnaz on the podcast starring Desi Arness and Wilmer Valderrama. I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life, how he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like ours on screen. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer valderrama on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Greg Cosell
I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Rejun. And this week on our podcast, Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus the miambi tir stops by.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
If you are not an oyster lover.
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Rob Parker
Don'T even talk to me.
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Greg Cosell
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
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Rob Parker
No way.
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Colin Cowherd
Bring back the ostrichon.
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Greg Cosell
Listen to Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City or just the Internet stand. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me to talk about navigating this high speed rollercoaster we call reality. Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Greg Cosell
This is an iHeart podcast.