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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - CFB national championship tiers, Ohio State vs Texas matchup, the most annoying player, Albert Breer
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now, let's get this party started.
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Jason McIntyre
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. We're back. Our number two here on the herd. It's me, Jason McIntyre, in for Colin Cowherd, joined by Rachel Nichols. We have Albert Rear coming up. Albert Rear. Just a fountain of information nation. The guy's amazing. And listen, I know it's football season for college and NFL, but you know, I love me some NBA. And Rachel loves the NBA, too. We have a fun, spicy NBA topic for later in the hours. Just a few minutes. NFL fans, don't worry. And given how people seem to feel about this guy, Rachel, I think they're gonna like our. Our take on. Yeah.
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Rachel Nichols
Conversation going on about that.
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Jason McIntyre
Yes, yes, yes. It'll be fun. But that's later in the hour. Then Greg Jennings, my guy. Greg Jennings, bodybuilder slash former NFL wide receiver. He's going to be in the final hour. Greg Jennings is like Arnold. Honestly, he is so jacked right now. The guy's a machine. All right, so earlier this week, we did my super bowl tears and the 49ers in the top tier really ticked everyone off. Understandable. Chiefs were in tier three. So I was like, why don't we do it for college football? Sure. Staff is like, yeah. On board. Got it. Here we go. College football national championship tears. Let's start with the group we're calling the head of the class. By the way, Head of the class. Shout out to my brother. We would watch that show in the 90s all the time.
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Rachel Nichols
It was Robin Givens.
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Albert Breer
Yes.
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Jason McIntyre
Robin Given. Thank you, Rachel. All right. Head of the class. Top college football contenders. Should be no surprise that Clemson is up there. If you listen to Bruce Feldman when he was on this week, they're stacked. They have one of the best defensive lines in the country. They have 16 starters back. Clemson's in there. Ohio State, defending champs have the Best player in the country, Jeremiah Smith. Caleb Downs, an elite defender. Penn State ratoons Drew Aller and eventually James Franklin's going to win a big game. Am I right? Is that going to happen? Now? Alabama surprised some people. Someone in the morning meeting. Was I Alabama, Jay? You sure? Folks, Alabama, from the notes, five star quarterback Ty Simpson has been waiting on the bench for a few years to take over for Jalen Milroe. Does that not sound like Arch Manning or what? This is a really good team and I'm. I'm a buyer. And Kaylin DeBoer. I didn't know that Belichick. Rachel had that earlier. Belichick was going to Washington before he got to unc. Guess who was at Washington. Caitlin d'. More. Smart as hell. I like Alabama to make the playoff and contend for the Natty. All right, let's go to the next group called the Honor Roll. Something I was on, I think in seventh grade and not much more after that. The Honor Roll. Obviously, Georgia Bulldogs are going to be there. However, they are replacing 15 starters, so I do think there's a pullback. I know they don't replace, they reload. Don't worry. With five stars, they're in the mix. I don't. I don't see them winning it, but they'll be in the mix. Notre Dame I like a lot. There's a buy on Marcus Freeman. I think he's an elite coach. And I think the NFL comes calling very, very soon. I love their ground game. Quarterback is a question, but my guy. I have a couple Notre Dame insiders who are very plugged in. They like the quarterback a lot. Oregon Ducks is a bit of a mystery. This is again as a buy on a coach Dan Lanning. He's going to have them competitive. I gotta be honest, I haven't heard a damn thing about Oregon since Ohio State smoked them 74. 0 or whatever it is in that Rose Bowl. Do you remember that game? That was unbelievable what Ohio State did to them. But Oregon, Dan landing, they'll be fine. And then the Texas Longhorns hook them. Arch Manning and company. I think they lose this weekend and then go on a bit of a heater against bad teams. So Texas is in the mix on the Honor roll. And finally we have waitlisted. I was waitlisted at one university when I applied. I got into 8. I was waitlisted at the other. And the wait list here is LSU with Nussmeyer at quarterback. We'll see what they're made of. In the opener against Clemson, the U, the team of my youth. Yes. I owned a Miami starter jacket. I'm not gonna lie. It was so fire when I was in seventh grade. But I like the U. I just don't love Carson Beck a lot like the coaching staff. And I think Notre Dame gets them this weekend. My guy Sellers, the quarterback at South Carolina, I think they're going to be spicy. He's the guy I would watch coming out of nowhere to, like, go number one. Maybe he carries the Gamecocks to the playoff. And finally, my dark horse, that Texas Tech Red Raiders. I was in Vegas last week. I bet some teams in college football. Texas Tech to make the playoff was one of my long shot bets. I love what they did in the portal. There's your college football tears from your boy. All right, let's bring in our guest, Albert Brear, Mr. Monday Morning Quarterback. As is always obligatory, I have to ask him about Ohio State right out of the gate. Brear, are you disappointed? I didn't have the Buckeyes winning at all already.
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Albert Breer
Oh, who'd you have? So I was looking at my phone.
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Jason McIntyre
Oh, you weren't even paying attention.
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Albert Breer
I should have been paying attention. That's on me.
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Jason McIntyre
No, no, no. I had Ohio State.
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Albert Breer
I'm in the top. Yeah, though. I was paying attention for that.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. Thank you. Okay, so I think they're gonna be very good, but I do think Penn State probably gets him this year. Clemson's loaded and Alabama is a team I bet to win.
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Albert Breer
The Natty or you bet Alabama.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
All right, we'll see. We'll see. Like, I, I, I look, I think Ohio State's one of those teams where I think we'll be a lot better in November than we are in September. It's, I mean, 14 guys drafted more than that made NFL rosters. It's a lot to replace. There's a question, of course, at quarterback. I think the game on Saturday is going to be a rock fight. I think both teams have excellent, excellent defenses that, from what I've heard, are way ahead of the offenses right now. But, yeah, I mean, like, the way that things set up now where, you know, you can have some bumps early and still survive to make the playoff, I think they'll be in good shape going into December.
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Jason McIntyre
Now, there's a rumor on a message board that you will be at the game this weekend. And I also saw you'll probably be in the locker room maybe doing the coin toss or something like that because you're.
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Albert Breer
I won't be in the locker room, but I will be in the stadium. I do have access for that. I guess that's a big issue this week, right? Like, I'll be okay. I'll be in the stadium, so. Yeah, yeah, no, it's. I'm excited to get out there, man. It'll be my two sons first game there, too, which is going to be pretty cool.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. All right. Final college football. Got to ask about Arch Manning. I keep asking every guest this week, do we know if he's good? I mean. Yeah. Enough with the UTSA highlights, okay? Can we wait to see him live? Bullets against a good team with a smart defense.
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Rachel Nichols
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
You know, it's interesting, actually, J. Mac, I asked around about him, you know, going back to, you know, like May, when you started to see him popping up as the number one overall pick in mock drafts. And, you know, with all due respect to him, I can't remember that ever happening before, where you had a guy who has two college stars being projected in the next year's draft to that level. So, you know, I. The guys were on the ground who do the school calls and have been in Austin, you know, it all say, like, the physical tools are there. He's a great kid. You know, he's been raised right, so there are a lot of, like, great pieces to put together there. But, I mean, I think the leap that everybody's making here is they assume that he's got all the stuff that Peyton and Eli had, and so they're making that leap where they say he's Peyton and Eli, plus athleticism, and I don't know that's really respectful to how difficult it is to. To see the game, to think the game the way that Peyton and Eli did. And that doesn't mean that Arch won't get there, but there's a process in getting there. You know, part of it is playing against better competition, which will happen on Saturday for him. Part of it is, you know, when teams get six, seven, eight games of game tape on you, you're figuring out what you do well, what you don't do well, and now they're able to game plan. More specifically, can you counter punch? You know, there's still a lot that we have left to find out about Arch Manning, and I, I think he'd agree with this. Like, I. As far as. I've never talked to him before, but far as what I know about the kid, I think he'd agree that there's still a lot left unknown about what he's going to be as a quarterback. And unfortunately, you know, the way all this stuff works today, we're never going to give a kid like that the opportunity to. To just let that happen naturally. But you kind of wish that it could.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, no shot of that. All right, let's shift our focus to the NFL. Listen, I don't love talking about the Cowboys. They stink. Right? Longest drought in a conference championship game in the NFC by a mile. And now you got Micah Parsons showing up at the airport. I'm going to get a second opinion on my back. His brother is tweeting out, this is going 12 rounds. I mean, at what point does this turn from circus to kind of like some Shakespearean act where it's really just sad and depressing?
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I mean, I. I would say that, like, a lot of this is kind of, you know, what Jerry's invited over the last few years. The way he's handled a lot of these contract negotiations. The pacing of it actually isn't much different than the negotiation with Zach Martin two years ago with the negotiation with CD Lamb and Dak Prescott last year, where, you know, offers were made very early in the off season. And then there was, you know, basically radio silence. Team goes to California for camp. There's not much movement. And then at the very end, there's a push to get a deal done. Now we'll see what happens and what results from that final push to get the deal done, you know, but I'd say there are, you know, a couple of key differences between this one and those. You know, one certainly is, you know, the public rancor that this sort of taken place over the course of the last three or four months, where a lot of this stuff has gotten out there and become kind of nasty in the public forum, whether it's between, you know, Jerry and the agent, David Mulagueda, whether it's between Micah and the team itself. Obviously, there's the stuff at the stadium, that last preseason game with the nachos and lying on the training table. So this one's gotten more public, publicly nasty than those before it. The other difference is just kind of how these guys are seen in the locker room, you know, And I would say, you know, Dak and CD And Zach Martin were all beloved figures in the locker room. And I don't know that it's quite that way with Micah now. It doesn't have to be. He's a great player, you know, he's a motivated player, you know, and I think that if you pay him, he's going to be worth every penny. But that does add a Different twist to the tenor negotiations. And so I could see them getting a deal done in the next week. I could also see this, you know, turning into something that drags into the season where, you know, all of a sudden Michael Parsons back is acting up, or his, his, his ankle is acting up, and you just kind of have this, like, weird sideways sort of season from one of your very best players, which, of course, can put the rest of the team in a tough spot, too.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. At what point? I mean, Micah probably has a little more ammo to empty the clip. I mean, he could simply go on his own podcast and go off and shift the attention from Jerry. He could control the narrative. Jerry can meet the media as much as he wants. I, I mean, I know he's a billionaire and he's the owner. I think Micah has the leverage here. Let me get on the screen, Albert. We looked at the 20, 21 draft, all the best players in the first round, and Jamar Chase signed Devante Smith extension. All these guys got their deals early. Hell, the Devonta Smith deal was done 17 months ago. Okay. There's one guy on the list who doesn't have a deal. Doesn't this even further ammo? Like, Jerry doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
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Albert Breer
But again, like, this is sort of the way that they've handled it. Like, and I, I think that's part of it, is he does know what he's doing. You know what I mean? Like, and I think there's a piece of it, like, for a lot of these owners is keeping the money in your own pocket for as long as you can. And that could be an element here. It's control over workforce, which is something Jerry's talked about in the public forum and, and in the private forum, too, of the, of the, of the ownership meetings.
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Jason McIntyre
Wait, wait, hold on.
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Albert Breer
He's sort of one of the leaders of the pack when it comes to that stuff and, and making sure that everybody knows who's in charge. Oh, you know, and then I think there's also the, the entertainment aspect to it, you know, and I, I. A couple years ago, I would have told you you were crazy for saying these things. And I thought people were kind of off base when they did say it. But the more it's happened this way and the less aggressive that they've gotten about doing deals in the months of June and July, the more I thought, like, maybe there is, you know, a, a side benefit that he sees in this whole thing that they're going to be in the A block. And a lot of, you know, a lot of shows like this one, you know, like that, they're going to be the most important thing over the summer. I mean, will we really be talking about the Cowboys right now if it weren't for this? No, J. Mack.
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Jason McIntyre
No.
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Albert Breer
I mean, it's sort of. I don't know. I mean, that maybe because of the coaching change, but they didn't. I mean, all due respect to Brian Schottenheimer, this wasn't like a headline grabbing higher, you know, Dax coming back for another year. I just. I don't know that there's anything that will capture the imagination of the public that's going on there right now. And so if you want to be a real conspiracy theory theorist about this, you could look at it and say, Jerry's going to get a deal done his way early, or you're going to have to wait until late. And the headlines may be part of the benefit for Jerry when it comes to all that.
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Jason McIntyre
Okay, so, Albert, you're a smart guy. You've been in radio, tv, writing. You covered the league forever. Do you want to win headlines and be in the A block in July and August, or do you want to be in playoff games that matter in January and get into the game in February? Like.
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Albert Breer
Well, you know, my answer is.
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Jason McIntyre
Exactly. And that's the only reason I'm putting back now. You said an interesting phrase. I almost didn't like it. Well, you said control over players. So are other. Any. Are any other owners speaking in that tone? Like that vibe, hey, we got to let them know who's in charge. Or is that just.
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Albert Breer
I don't think that. I mean, like, most of them think that.
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Jason McIntyre
I get that.
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Albert Breer
If you want to. The truth of it, most of them think that way. I mean, that's why there are so many rules in the CBA that pertain to this sort of stuff, you know, like whether it's franchise tags is strengthening the rules over holding out. I mean, guys have to pay 50,000 a day for. For. For. For. For days they miss in training camp, you know, and that's why players have had to get more creative in doing things like Holden. So, like, if you don't think your owner has. Has. Has that in the back of his head and how he can maintain control over his workforce, like, you are either, you know, rooting for one of the teams, the rare guy like that, or you have your head in the clouds about the way these guys operate. It's just reality of it. You know what I mean? Like So I think Jerry's a little bit more forceful about it, and Jerry's probably one of the more vocal guys inside the meeting room. But it exists everywhere and it's all over the cba. You know, there's so many different things in the CBA that the point to it, even the length of it, you know what I mean? Like doing a 10 year deal where you have the opt outs, like, what is that? That's control over workforce. So, I mean, I know that's sort of a corporate term for it, but it's exactly what it is.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. When I mean, Jerry can go to the table and say, we have you for the next three years. You can't do anything. Come play. And honestly, I'm at the point, Brer, you know, I'm not, I'm not rich or wealthy. If I were a rich guy and I sided with Micah Parson, I'd say, hey, Micah, I got you. I'll float some of your lifestyle. I don't want you going and playing. Get your contract. You deserve it. You've earned it. Just like everybody else in your draft class. Go screw listening to him. I mean, again, maybe that's a little aggressive on my part, but I mean.
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Albert Breer
But that's the thing is like, so what Jerry's told him is like, we have you for the next three years. Well, why do they have him for the next three years? Because for the next three years, because they have the last year of his contract. Franchise tag one, franchise tag two. And so those are mechanisms of control, you know, And I mean, there are teams that are more aggressive, so they don't have to use those mechanisms of control because they don't want it to come to that point with their players. You know, in a lot of cases, you have a good relationship with your player and you just don't want it to come to that. You may believe that you should have control over your workforce, but, you know, the Eagles are a great example of it. Like where you mentioned devonte Smith, like, they never. This things never like came even close to coming to a head with him because you did him so early. You know, A.J. brown, they revised his contract, they gave him, you know, a big bump when he had outplayed the contract he initially signed. So there are definitely ways to avoid it. There are definitely teams that don't want to exert it. Jerry's just never been afraid to exert these sorts of mechanisms. And again, like that whole thing like, I have you for the next three years, even though you're only under Contract for the next year is, of course, you know, a pretty clear way of explaining to your player, like, even after your contract expires, I still have you because of the rules that we put in place.
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Jason McIntyre
I don't like that. I mean, maybe the WNBA players should talk to the NFL guys and be like, hey, hey. Oh, you guys, this is the playbook. This is what we're going to do. But the other thing, looking at that, Rayshawn Slater got a new contract July 27. Two weeks later, torn patella, out for the year. He doesn't have to worry about anything, Albert. He got. He got his money. Hey, don't rush back. We're good. You got your contract. We're happy. Like, I'm.
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Albert Breer
I mean, Caleb McGar is another one that's not as high profile, but he got hurt in Atlanta, I think, a few days after his contract. There are tons of examples of it, for sure, and that's. That's part of the leverage that owners have, is fear that something like this is going to happen.
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Jason McIntyre
Yes. So if I'm Micah, he. Hey, man, I just saw what happened to McGarry. What happened to Slater. I'm sorry. I don't want to go out there. My back is hurt. I mean, honestly, you have to. If you're Dak Prescott, and you probably know him as well as anybody who covers teams, at some point he has to think, hey, man, I got paid. I don't care. We're not winning the Super Bowl. We're not sniffing it. I mean, I think the Eagles have a better chance to repeat than Dallas does, even getting to the playoffs, and I think Dak is probably fine with that. Hey, I'm wealthy. I've got generational wealth. I got my girl. I got my kid. I'm fine. I don't care. At some point, you just have to not care, because if the owner doesn't seem to care, why should the quarterback? I'm just going to go play and make money, and that's it.
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I mean, I see what you're saying. I mean, but there's also, like, you only have so many years to. To. To. To. To. To maximize your time in the field. You know, how you're going to be remembered and all of that different stuff. And I think, you know, Dax, not really wired that way, where it's. Where it's like, okay, like. Well, like, my owner isn't as all in as I am, so I'm not going to put as much into it. Like, I just. I have a hard time envisioning ever. Ever seeing anything that. Anything like that happening with that particular guy, like Dak Prescott's. Not that way. But I would agree that, like, it doesn't always send the best message to your locker room when you're doing these sorts of things. You know, I mean, I think in a lot of ways, these contract negotiations send messages to the locker room. And I, I think, you know, for example, like Terry McLaurin in Washington. I think one of the tricky things about that one is, and was over the course of the last few months was like, I mean, if you're. If you're in a negotiation with somebody who isn't all that well liked or well respected in the locker room and there's a dispute, well, I think guys kind of, you know, just look the other way on it. But if it's a guy like a McLaurin, like, they're going to be guys in the locker room that are going to look at it and say, like, you messed with that guy. And now that they've paid him, they can point and say, you know what? We took care of him. Like, it was. It got a little messy. But in the end, we were. We were able to find a solution, and he's happy and we're happy, and that's the kind of guy that we pay. So, yeah, I think more often than. More often than people realize, players keep score by contract, players keep score by money. And so, you know, they're paying attention to the way that you handle these sorts of negotiations because they know if one of the biggest stars in the team can be treated a certain way, well, then they're certainly not going to be exempt from it.
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Jason McIntyre
All right, let's move off the Cowboys. I know management will love that. I do have to ask. I'm taking some heat in Chicago, Albert. Okay. Yeah, they're upset with me. Kyle Long is taking jabs at me like this Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson stuff again. I'm listening to the quotes and I'm looking at the actions of Ben Johnson, and I'm just telling you from my point of view, something's going on there. It doesn't feel like it's off to a good start. They've had like four or five months together. And the messaging from Ben now, maybe this is his personality. I don't know his upbringing, I don't know his background. It just doesn't seem positive. And then they signed Bajan to. To a random, out of nowhere. This guy came out of nowhere and they just signed him to a deal. I'm like what is happening. So maybe talk talk Bears fans off the ledge or side with me, either one.
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Albert Breer
I think he's being, I think, I think Ben's being intentionally tough on, on, on Caleb Williams. Like, I think that's that, that that's really the long and short of it. And this is Ben being himself and this is the way he coaches. And you know, as far as I can tell, like, Caleb's been on board with it and it produced some really ugly days early in training camp. Like, it did not look good. But if you talk to Ben about it, what he would tell you is we were going through a process where we wanted to feed him through a fire hose and give him as much as we possibly could, overload him with information, overload him with scheme and then come back and narrow down what he's doing and figure out what he does well and what he doesn't do well, throw the stuff that he doesn't do well out and build an offense around his strengths. And so I think, like you juxtapose the early days in camp against the second preseason game and you see a guy who is playing much faster, you see a guy who's playing much more confidently because they had figured out exactly what he does best. They've, they'd honed in on that and then they really sort of fine tuned some of the stuff as far as how fast he's playing, how quick the ball is getting out, all of that. And I know it didn't look quite the same against Kansas City, it wasn't quite as sharp against Kansas City in the last preseason game. But I think this has gone according to plan and, you know, we'll have to see what it looks like when the regular season starts. But I think people who've been around Ben would remind you, like they had days like this with Jared Goff in training camp in Detroit and nobody made as big a deal out of it because golf was already a proven commodity. We already had an idea of what golf is. You know, we'll see if it works with the younger guy.
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Jason McIntyre
Huh? That, that's positive and upbeat and I like it. I appreciate it. I do have to ask. Caleb kind of had the run of the show last year. He could do whatever he wanted. He was watching film by himself, reportedly. Well, guess what? The year prior at usc, he was also just doing his own thing. A lot of backyard football, right? So two years of just, hey, freelance, make a play, Go, go get us some points. How tough is it going to be to go from that into Follow my lead, drop, read, react quickly. Like it's probably at least a year with Ben before we see anything close to what he wants. Right?
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Albert Breer
Well, it's a mentality change, you know, I mean, you're. You're trying to coach a playing style out of somebody, and that's not an easy thing to do. You know, I think beyond just that, like in college, like, he was asked in a lot of cases to be the best player on the field. And I think you saw that reflected in the way that he played. It was a lot of big play hunting, a lot of passing up the, the. The easy stuff. And what they're trying to teach him to do is play the game and play quarterback in a more between the lines sort of ways. Instead of constantly coloring outside the lines, you can run and scramble to create throws. In the NFL, you can't do it all the time. And I think of my homes, because I'm doing a story on Pat, and Pat and I talked about this earlier in the month, is like, if you look at his numbers, Mahomes, his numbers, he averaged over 10 carries a game when he was at Texas Tech. That number for his NFL career is under four per game. And that's a very intentional thing that for Mahomes was going from having to be the best player on the field on almost every play to I've got good teammates around me. I can trust them, I can get the ball in their hands, and then when I need to be Superman, I can always put the cape on. That's what they're trying to get Caleb to do in Chicago, is there are going to be certain plays where we just want to have your hands at ten and two on the wheel and just run the offense. And we know that we. We know that you're capable of the bigger stuff when we need it, but it can't be all the time. And I think there were points last year. We saw what happens when he's trying to be that guy all the time. And they're trying to dial that back and say, just play quarterback four times out of five, and then that fifth time you can go and show everybody exactly what you're capable of.
- [28:53]
Jason McIntyre
Your analogy for Caleb got me thinking of the great movie Old School, where Will Ferrell, you know, used to be a party animal, then he's really resigned to the burbs and his wife's like, we don't want to see old Frank the Tank. And then he just comes out and he's beer bonging or funneling, whatever the kids Call it. Anyways, Albert Brear, Monday morning quarterback. Great stuff as always. Hey, good luck to your Buckeyes this weekend. I loaded up. I could use a new car. So let's go, Buckeyes.
- [29:20]
Albert Breer
Oh, you got money on them?
- [29:22]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, a couple bucks.
- [29:24]
Albert Breer
I like it. I like it for me, too. It's been a while.
- [29:28]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, yeah, we'll do all right, Albert. Thank you.
- [29:30]
Albert Breer
All right.
- [29:31]
Jason McIntyre
Great stuff from Albert Brewer. Coming up next, Rachel tells us who fans think is the most annoying player in the NFL. I'm going to guess it's a cowboy, but that's just a guess. That's next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich running a business online.
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- [31:49]
Buzz Knight
Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast. And join me for an upcoming episode with Seth MacFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.
- [32:01]
Music Podcast Narrator
Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The the biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? There were a few unplayed gems that we had been alerted to by Charlie Pinon of Sinatra Enterprises. So we knew that certain songs like Shadow of your Smile, which actually is not on this record, it'll be on the next one.
- [32:21]
Buzz Knight
Seth McFarland Don Rickles went up to.
- [32:23]
Music Podcast Narrator
Frank Sinatra and he said, listen, and I'm gonna be having dinner with this lovely woman and I, you know, would you come over and say hi? And just so you know. Cause I feel like if she sees that I know you, it's gonna make me look really cool. And you know, I might have a good night. During the middle of dinner, Frank walks over and says, don, hi, how are you? And Don goes, frank, please, I'm in the middle of dinner.
- [32:39]
Buzz Knight
Seth MacFarlane on the taking a Walk podcast. Listen to Takin a walk on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [32:49]
Colin Cowherd
Who cares about truth when the lies more entertaining.
- [32:52]
Angela Rai
Hey everybody, I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lamp with Tiffany CR and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela, I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves.
- [33:10]
Jason McIntyre
That's the truth. We're having the same debates that American.
- [33:12]
Albert Breer
Households are having all over the country.
- [33:14]
Angela Rai
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.
- [33:31]
Jason McIntyre
We're like family, but we disagree all the time. All the time. And we love when our listeners chime.
- [33:36]
Angela Rai
In, what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South?
- [33:42]
Music Podcast Narrator
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South.
- [33:44]
Jason McIntyre
I don't know what you're on.
- [33:46]
Angela Rai
What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine, you want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
- [33:56]
Jason McIntyre
Listen to Native Land Pod on the.
- [33:59]
Albert Breer
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [34:03]
Jason McIntyre
Welcome home. Welcome home, y'. All.
- [34:05]
Colin Cowherd
I'm Dan, he's Ty.
- [34:07]
Jason McIntyre
Hello.
- [34:07]
Colin Cowherd
And we're the Solid Verbal College football podcast.
- [34:11]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
College football season is here and you, you know what that means.
- [34:17]
Colin Cowherd
Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.
- [34:21]
Jason McIntyre
Uh huh.
- [34:22]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
- [34:29]
Colin Cowherd
Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.
- [34:35]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make some sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
- [34:52]
Colin Cowherd
We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
- [34:56]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
Listen to the Solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [35:06]
Jason McIntyre
Phenomenal stuff from Albert Breer. The guy's good, he really is. And when he goes on his camp tours, he comes to my town to cover a team and always text me, oh, let's get a bite. He's a really nice guy. Let's go to Rachel Nichols with the news.
- [35:24]
Albert Breer
No, no, no.
- [35:25]
Colin Cowherd
Heard on the news.
- [35:26]
Albert Breer
This is the Herd line news.
- [35:29]
Rachel Nichols
Jason. Fans have voted Aaron Rodgers the most annoying football player in the NFL. Yes, that's from a poll conducted by the Action Network. Rogers received a whopping 24% of the total vote. They also broke it down by fan base. And the numbers there are even more stark. 21 of the NFL's 32 fan bases rate Rodgers as the most annoying, including the fan base in Green Bay, the fan base in Pittsburgh where he currently plays, and the fan base of the New York jets, of which you are a card carrying member. So for you, is Aaron Rodgers the most annoying player in the NFL?
- [36:07]
Jason McIntyre
You know that. Let me hear the rest. Were there any runner ups or anything?
- [36:12]
Rachel Nichols
So we have here, you can see on the screen Patrick Mahomes now, by the way with them. I feel like the reasons are different. This is my opinion. You tell me yours. I think the reasons with Travis particularly and Patrick kind of by proxy is that there's a lot of football fans who are obviously sick of the Taylor Swift angle or the whatever angle. Aaron. In my opinion, it seems to be more of how he has handled himself. Travis, by the way, his jersey sales since he got engaged up 200%.
- [36:42]
Jason McIntyre
Wow.
- [36:42]
Rachel Nichols
So not every fan is annoyed with him, but apparently every fan is a.
- [36:47]
Jason McIntyre
Let's be real with some of these polls. I mean, Action Network probably talked to 5,000 people. They. They didn't talk to 5 million. But I don't totally disagree with Aaron Rodgers being the most annoying. I can't even. I'm scrambling to think of a second. I mean, Odell Beckham isn't even in the league. Was he Cat. Was he in the league last year? I mean, how is he on the list? But yeah, Aaron Rodgers. I wonder. I would love to hear his thoughts on that. You think Pittsburgh media will ask him?
- [37:16]
Rachel Nichols
I Wonder if Pat McAfee will ask him.
- [37:18]
Jason McIntyre
Oh, that's right. Hey, you were voted the most annoying player in the league. Your thoughts, Aaron. Oh, it's an honor. I'm going to go back into a dark. When you go into a darkness retreat, you kind of alienate. Like 75 people had not heard of a darkness. I had not. Before he said he was doing. I was like, what the hell is a darkness retreat? Yeah, I mean, maybe he'll turn up at Burning Man. Have you been to Burning man, by the way?
- [37:39]
Rachel Nichols
I am very proud to say not only have I never been to Burning Man, I haven't looked at anything from Burning Man. I just feel like dirt on my hands just hearing you talk about Burning Man.
- [37:51]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I told my buddies I would. Some guys went a couple years ago. I was like, I'll, I'll helicopter in for a night, but there's no way I'm staying in the desert.
- [37:59]
Rachel Nichols
Helicopter.
- [38:00]
Jason McIntyre
I could see Aaron Rodgers just going to Burning man and living it up because he's that kind of guy.
- [38:03]
Rachel Nichols
You know that Peanuts character Figpen.
- [38:05]
Jason McIntyre
Yes.
- [38:06]
Rachel Nichols
That's what I think of when I think of Burning Man.
- [38:07]
Jason McIntyre
Yes, yes.
- [38:08]
Rachel Nichols
There you go. Let's talk a little. Malik Neighbors. He had an incredible rookie year, but that toe injury limited his off season work. He has a back issue that kept him sidelined sideline for a bunch of training camp. Now neighbor said that despite being banged up, quote, when it's game time and those lights are on, my body is going to turn it on. So do you think J. Mac that his numbers are going to. I mean, his numbers were amazing. Yeah, look, last season he missed two games, right. And his quarterback, Daniel Jones, was released in the middle of the season. And yet, look at this. Most receptions, he ranks second ever in NFL history. Do you feel like he can top it this year?
- [38:48]
Jason McIntyre
Oh. Oh, top that? Well, he's got a better quarterback. He probably has a better backup. I mean, he was catching passes from that guy DeVito. Yes, right. Who's now?
- [38:55]
Rachel Nichols
That guy DeVito.
- [38:56]
Jason McIntyre
DeVito's on the Patriots.
- [38:57]
Rachel Nichols
Yeah, he got picked up by the Patriots.
- [38:59]
Jason McIntyre
So I rode Neighbors to a fantasy championship last year in my big money league. It was amazing. And I didn't even know. He's in, like, jeopardy of. Is he gonna miss time? This is not good.
- [39:10]
Rachel Nichols
No, he's okay. He said it's a minor back injury. That was his quote.
- [39:13]
Jason McIntyre
Is there such thing?
- [39:14]
Rachel Nichols
You know what I like to say, There is no such thing as a minor back injury. But, you know, he's. He has been a gamer, even. Even when he's been hurt. He was hurt a lot. Not just he missed two games, but he was hurt in sort of practices and missed a bunch of practices last year, and he showed up at Gamecock.
- [39:30]
Jason McIntyre
That's not great. I. I mean, who's their second skill position player? Tyrone Tracy, the running back. I mean, that's not good. And they got a brutal schedule early. If Neighbors has to miss any time, this team is cooked. I mean, we already think they are. Oh, boy. That's not good. Get healthy, Malik. Go Moss. Them guys.
- [39:50]
Rachel Nichols
Look at this. Oh, no. Show that. Already the full screen. All right, let's look at the Bills quarterback situation is in a little bit better shape. Right. Josh Allen winning the MVP last year, so clearly he's doing a ton of things right. But he recently said he knows his style of play has to, quote, evolve. In specific, he said he needs to be taking fewer hits. He said, quote, just being smarter, sliding, getting out of bounds, throwing ball away a little bit quicker, and not taking those extra one or two hits a game that start adding up. So, J. Mac, his sack totals have actually been going down each of the last three seasons. And he said it's been making him feel better in the off season. He's already an mvp, though. I mean, do you think all of this. Is this really where he needs to, quote, evolve? Do you think it's going to make a difference if he's taking less hits?
- [40:33]
Jason McIntyre
It's interesting. So a buddy of mine, a hardcore gambler, was making money by he Would bet under totals for rushing for Josh Allen early in the season because Buffalo made it pretty clear we don't need you running in September. October.
- [40:48]
Rachel Nichols
Yeah.
- [40:48]
Jason McIntyre
Big games, November, December, January. Save it for then. So he would run more late in the season. He's their best, best option. I just wonder if he's saying, you know what, I'm just going to save my running until the playoffs now at this point we got nothing to prove. We're going to be a one, two or three seed. Let's just sit. Because in January when he tucks and runs like, just like Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson, it's an unstoppable play. The defense like if you're in man and you got your back turned to the quarterback, you're in trouble. Yeah. And if you're in zone, he's going to pick you apart. So I mean, I like this attitude. Allen just has to. He's just got to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. That's it. That's the last thing him and Lamar have left to do.
- [41:26]
Rachel Nichols
That's what it feels like. I mean this is all great. It's always nice to try to fine tune and improve your game, you know, in all the different ways. But his running is so much of his strength. Right. So there's going to be hits each. I mean that's just how it works. Look at Lamar is at the top of the list of guys taking those kinds of hits. So that's how it is. It's just you got to bear down in the, in the playoffs.
- [41:44]
Jason McIntyre
I don't know if they track slides, but I feel like Jalen hurts slides way more.
- [41:48]
Rachel Nichols
Yes.
- [41:48]
Jason McIntyre
Than Josh Allen who's like 65 and can absorb hits from linebacker. So yeah. Good luck to Josh Allen this year. Rachel with the news.
- [41:56]
Albert Breer
Well, that's the news and thanks for.
- [41:58]
Jason McIntyre
Stopping by the herd lie news. All right, listen, this next topic. So there's an NBA team that really is catering to their superstar, but they have a second superstar and they're not really showing him the love. This is becoming an issue. That's next.
- [42:18]
Albert Breer
Want more herd?
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Jason McIntyre
The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.
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- [43:30]
Buzz Knight
I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast, and join me for an upcoming episode with Zach McFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.
- [43:40]
Music Podcast Narrator
Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The the biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? There were a few unplayed gems that we had been alerted to by Charlie Pinon of Sinatra Enterprises. So we knew that certain songs like Shadow of your Smile, which actually is not on this record, it'll be on the next one.
- [44:01]
Buzz Knight
Seth McFarland Don Rickles went up to.
- [44:03]
Music Podcast Narrator
Frank Sinatra and he said, look, and I'm gonna be having dinner with this lovely woman and I, you know, would you come over and say hi? And just so you know, Cause I feel like if she sees that I know you, it's gonna make me look really cool. And you know, I might have a good night. During the middle of dinner, Frank walks over and says, don, hi, how are you? And Don goes, frank, please, I'm in the middle of dinner.
- [44:19]
Buzz Knight
Seth MacFarlane on the taking a Walk podcast. Listen to Taking a walk on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [44:29]
Colin Cowherd
Who cares about truth when the lies more entertaining.
- [44:32]
Angela Rai
Hey everybody, I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lamp with Tiffany CR and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves.
- [44:50]
Rachel Nichols
That's the truth.
- [44:51]
Jason McIntyre
We're having the same debates that American.
- [44:52]
Albert Breer
Households are having all over the country.
- [44:54]
Angela Rai
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full Neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills. Your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.
- [45:11]
Jason McIntyre
We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime.
- [45:16]
Angela Rai
In what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South.
- [45:22]
Music Podcast Narrator
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South.
- [45:24]
Jason McIntyre
I don't know what you're on.
- [45:26]
Angela Rai
What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
- [45:36]
Jason McIntyre
Listen to Native Land Pod on the.
- [45:38]
Albert Breer
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [45:43]
Jason McIntyre
Welcome home. Welcome home, y'. All.
- [45:45]
Colin Cowherd
I'm Dan, he's Ty.
- [45:46]
Albert Breer
Hello.
- [45:47]
Colin Cowherd
And we're the Solid Verbal College Football podcast.
- [45:51]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
College football season is here. And you know what that means.
- [45:56]
Colin Cowherd
Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.
- [46:01]
Jason McIntyre
Uh huh.
- [46:02]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
- [46:09]
Colin Cowherd
Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.
- [46:15]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make some sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
- [46:32]
Colin Cowherd
We don't just love college football, Ty. We live it.
- [46:36]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [46:47]
Rachel Nichols
Football's back, baby. College football. Fox College football Friday under the lights, prime time. This week it's an SEC Big 12 showdown as Auburn takes on Baylor tomorrow night, 8 Eastern on Fox.
- [47:02]
Jason McIntyre
All right, th this is a fun topic. Obviously, it's NFL season. It's football season and NBA is on the shelf till like October, when they start the season last week of October. But I saw this yesterday on Ignorance. Luka Doncic is playing in Euro basket, which is huge this summer. It's Jokic is playing. All the stars internationally are playing. This is the place where Giannis slapped one of his teammates in Greece upside the head. And Luka Doncic was photographed with two people you may recognize and that would be Genie Buss and Rob Pelinka. You see that they traveled to Europe for Eurobasket to see Luca, their guy. Now you guys obviously are on Instagram. I'm sure every single person listening to the show is. And you've seen LeBron not get invited to that Luca dinner, not get any love, no contract extension. And I haven't seen any photos with Jeannie and LeBron. He's playing basketball with his kids in the driveway. He's playing a lot of golf with his guys, Maverick Carter and company. And I have to wonder, you guys know I'm a LeBron guy through and through. I will say I've been saying it for years. LeBron, when he won the championship with the Lakers, became the goat past Michael Jordan. I'm sure Rachel and others disagree. It's fine. It's a subjective discussion. I think LeBron's the goat. I also think right now he has to be stewing beyond belief of what's going down with the Lakers. I want to remind you guys, the lakers were the third seed in the west last year and that's trading AD mid season. Reportedly they did not run it by LeBron beforehand. They bring on Luca. He's hurt, misses time. They're still third. LeBron's second team, all NBA. And he can't get an extension. He can't get any love. And they're sucking up to Luka Doncic now, Rachel, you've been around the NBA for a long time. You know Lebron and his camp, and we agree this is not the worst thing in the world. This is kind of standard operating procedure. If you're a gm, a big wheeler on a team, you go to Euro basket, see your star, Jokic. Obviously the Nuggets are going to be well represented, but I just have to wonder when LeBron is sitting there on the 17th in his golf cart, scrolled there with Luca in Europe and I can't get a hangout. I can't get anything. Can I get a call? And I just want it. I'm not ready to like feel bad for Lebron, but I'm just curious what's going through his head.
- [49:39]
Rachel Nichols
What do you want, Jeannie? Best to invite him over for like a knitting party.
- [49:43]
Jason McIntyre
Something happen here?
- [49:45]
Rachel Nichols
What is your Preference?
- [49:46]
Jason McIntyre
I want LeBron to get the love.
- [49:47]
Rachel Nichols
You want him to get.
- [49:48]
Jason McIntyre
I want LeBron to get the love you're.
- [49:50]
Rachel Nichols
Let's break this down, okay? You're a basket. As you noted, all the Nuggets brass went to go see Jokic at Euro basket, right? This is happening all over the NBA. Chauncey Billups showed up in Poland to watch Deni Abvidon. Like, I mean, you do not have to be a Luka Doncic level player for Your team to come over. It's just become what you do if you're an NBA team. So that this photo to me is absolutely nothing.
- [50:18]
Jason McIntyre
Nothing Burger.
- [50:19]
Rachel Nichols
And by the way, this whole idea that LeBron is jealous of Luka, it's just not true, okay? LeBron really likes Luka Doncic. Luka has always shown LeBron great deference. Luka has been very clear. He modeled his entire game after LeBron James. The two of them get along just fine. And in fact, when LeBron's agent, Rich Paul, put out that statement in the middle of summer, that got everybody all crazy where he said, oh, LeBron has to take care of his future, even though the Lakers are taking care of their future and all that stuff. Rich Paul actually called Luka Doncic's people before he even called the Lakers to say, hey, this has nothing to do with you. So that's the degree to which the LeBron camp is okay with the Luca camp. Everything's fine. There where the issue comes in and you mentioned it, is the contract extension. That's what all of this is about. That's what the coming welcome home hat on social media and the this in Cleveland and I'm at the practice court of the Clippers and I'm here in my old, you know how in Akron and all of that. That is a reaction to the fact that the Lakers have decided they do not want to extend his contract past this season.
- [51:29]
Jason McIntyre
Understandable.
- [51:29]
Rachel Nichols
And their reasoning is we have a player now who is a generational superstar, not yet a LeBron level superstar, by the way, but nobody is yet. Right? There's no one else in the NBA who is LeBron level yet. Luka is one of the next best.
- [51:43]
Jason McIntyre
He could get there.
- [51:44]
Rachel Nichols
Right? So they have Luka Doncic, who is 15 years younger than LeBron and they have to worry about his next three or four years. So first worry about that was, will he re sign with us? Because he could have left this summer. So that dinner that you're talking about, that LeBron quote wasn't invited to. He wasn't invited because that was a recruiting dinner for Luka Doncic. That was Rob Palenka brought a binder to that interview to discuss. I mean, to that dinner. He brought a binder to dinner. And the whole point was, here's what we plan to do, here's how we want to use you. All of that kind of stuff. That's what that dinner was about.
- [52:21]
Jason McIntyre
Do you think at that dinner, Luka at any point said, yeah, I don't see a lot of LeBron here. What's the game plan for the greatest player in NBA history?
- [52:28]
Rachel Nichols
I do not think he did that. I think that LeBron James doesn't understand why for the first time in his career he has to play out the final year of his contract. He doesn't understand why he's an all NBA level player and he's being left hanging. And by the way, he has a real point there. But the Lakers have a point that they need to keep their cap sheet clear past next year to find a younger big time major star to pair with Luca for the foreseeable future as opposed to giving $50 million to a then 42 year old. No, it all makes sense on both sides. No one's wrong here.
- [53:04]
Jason McIntyre
It's just, it's like, it's complicated if that makes sense. Because remember, The Lakers needed LeBron. What they did with Kobe at the end, they were a disaster. LeBron pulled him out of the wilderness, brought him a title, and now they're not really showing him the love.
- [53:18]
Rachel Nichols
No knitting. No knitting. Jason knitting. They didn't invite him to knit.
- [53:22]
Jason McIntyre
Final hour, the drama in Dallas. Of course it continues.
- [53:29]
Buzz Knight
Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast. And join me for an upcoming episode with Seth MacFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.
- [53:40]
Music Podcast Narrator
Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? Really, the most thrilling part was hiring an orchestra and just playing what was in these boxes.
- [53:52]
Buzz Knight
Listen to Taking a walk on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [53:58]
Katie Couric
Hey, everyone, it's me, Katie Couric. Did you know that I recently joined Substack? Very exciting. It's where I'll be sharing my unfiltered conversations with the people everyone's talking about. I'll also tell you what I'm reading, what I'm watching, what's making me crazy, and what's giving me hope. If you like deep dives, hot takes, and real talk, you're in the right place. Search Katie Couric on Substack and hit subscribe. I'll be there, reporting live, most likely in my pajamas. See you there.
- [54:28]
Jason McIntyre
I'm Jake Hofer and this is back.
- [54:30]
Colin Cowherd
40, a limited series show on Wire.
- [54:33]
Jason McIntyre
To Hunt, part of Meat Eater's Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question.
- [54:40]
Colin Cowherd
About hunting and land management.
- [54:42]
Albert Breer
How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access, should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
- [54:52]
Colin Cowherd
Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app.
- [54:54]
Albert Breer
Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [54:58]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
- [55:01]
Albert Breer
You got a hoodie on. Take it all.
- [55:03]
Colin Cowherd
I'm Manny.
- [55:04]
Jason McIntyre
I'm Noah.
- [55:05]
Albert Breer
This is Devin, and we're best friends.
- [55:06]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
And journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming at me? I can't expect what to do now if the rule was the same, Go off on me.
- [55:18]
Jason McIntyre
I deserve it, you know? Lock him up.
- [55:19]
Ty (Solid Verbal)
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [55:25]
Jason McIntyre
No Such Thing. This is an iHeart podcast.