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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - Chiefs offense is back, the Eagles and AJ Brown don't see eye to eye, Greg Cosell
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Greg Cosell
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Greg Cosell
Now let's get this party started.
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
Here we go. It's hour two. It is a Thursday. You know, sometimes Thursdays are slow days for us, right? There's no big games thank God for these wild card baseball playoffs. And I games in New York feel different. Nothing against Fenway, it's nothing against Wrigley. I grew up in the west coast baseball playoff games in New York because of the history, because of the pressure, they just feel different. So it was just magical last night. I gotta say this. The greatest move by any commissioner in any sport ever is Rob Manfred, Major League Baseball commissioner, instituting a pitch clock. Two hour and 50 minute playoff games are fantastic movies. They're better at two hours than three. And I love the Irishman, I love Scorsese, but I don't have time to watch the Irishman on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Give me an hour 50 movie. You know, Adam Silver recently said a year ago, he's like, hey, I would reduce quarters to 10 minutes, not 12. And I think the audience would appreciate it. I'm all for protecting athletes. I don't need my athletes on the field for five hours. Even golf. Old guy, slow sport, pace of play is a constant issue. Listen, I know a lot of you wake and bake crowd guys, you love a six hour Fish concert. The rest of us have to go to work in the morning, right? I'm sorry. Years ago, Red Sox, Yankees, played in the ALCS. I looked it up this morning. Brutal. ALCS. Years ago, 2004, one game was over four hours, two were over five. Almost everything. Thanksgiving dinner with crazy Uncle Eddie. Everything's better, quicker, even holiday parties. So Monday Night Football, years ago, I saw the numbers on Monday Night Football. It may have changed, but time spent watching Monday Night Football was under two hours. Not everybody watches pregame show, post game show, entire game. The baseball playoffs have been great. Pace of play is fast, it moves. And I understand playoff games are going to be longer. Baseball games now last about 2 hours and 35 minutes. A playoff game is going to be 2 hours and 50 minutes or 2 hours, 55 minutes. I get it, every out matters. You go to the bullpen more, whatever. But it's been just absolutely fantastic. God, if the Dodgers had a good bullpen, their games will be over in an hour and a half. With that, every week at this time best, 15 minutes maybe in TV 46 years. NFL Films. Greg Cosell is now joining us live. Rams Niners tonight. Let's get that one out of the way because the Niners are all beat up. I was watching Puka Nakua last week, fifth round pick at a byu and he's very, very good. I'm not denying that. He's strong, he's hard to Bring down. But it does feel like when you watch his historic numbers, some of this is fit. I said this the other day, if you put him in other teams, I think he'd be really good. I don't think it would be like this. When you watch film how much a puka is fit and not just talent.
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Greg Cosell
I think you're correct, Colin, because in fact this week, because he leads the NFL and targets with 50 and he's obviously been a very good player for the last couple of years since he came in the league. So I looked at all his targets and think about this. Only one of his 50 targets has he been the single receiver to. Whatever side of the field he's on, he's always a multiple receiver player. So they use him in motion, they use him in reduced splits, they use him in bunch formations.
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Colin Cowherd
They use.
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Greg Cosell
They use him to what he is and he's very, very good. Run after catch. He's so physical and he's so competitive. But when you think of the great receivers, and I'm not saying he's not, but when most people think of great receivers in today's NFL, you think of what we call that boundary X, that single receiver to the short side of the field that just can work one on one against anybody. He is not deployed in that manner. So he rarely ever, like I said one time this year, and by the way, it was a tunnel screen, only one time has he been the single receiver to the side of the field that he lines up on.
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Colin Cowherd
So they play the Niners tonight. I said the other day, I think Brock Purdy is still injured. I think he's the ball sailing on him. I don't think he gets the push off he wants. I'll defend Brock Purdy. If you're playing at 75, 80% the ball doesn't come out the same. That's what it looks like to me. What does the film say?
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Greg Cosell
I would agree with that. I thought last week there were a lot of balls that sailed on him. Again, we never know if that's due to injury or not, but. But to me they're much larger issue quite frankly because Brock Purdy's a good player, you know, and everybody wants to get into the Brock Purdy discussion on a week to week basis. He's proven that he's a quality NFL quarterback. Their issue is they cannot run the football. You know, one stat we always look at is yards before first contact. Do you know who's last in the NFL? Christian McCaffrey. He gets 1.47 yards before first contact and as good as Purdy can be, or any quarterback for the most part, if you can't run the ball at all, and particularly that team, the foundation of how they go about doing everything offensively starts with the run game. And they've been unable to run the ball with any sustainability or any consistency.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, let's revisit Jackson Dart. I thought it was good. What I liked about the game plan, it was very intentional. They clearly designed plays for him to run. They kind of felt like you could tell the Chargers o line was beat up. The Giants staff felt like they would win some matchups up front and it would be a pretty low scoring game. So they were intentional. They wanted to win field position. It wasn't a lot of big throws down the field. I thought he was good. I don't think he was exceptional. What did the film say?
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Greg Cosell
No, no, he wasn't. And they played to what he is. They ran the same basic route concepts over and over. And there was one in particular called Snag flat that seemed to be open every time they got zone coverage. It becomes a pitch and catch easy. Thr they used his legs. He was clearly in the pocket, a little quick to move. I don't think he saw things really well, but, you know, this is to be expected in a first start. He's going to have to become much more disciplined as a pocket player in order to become a really good quarterback. But, you know, whenever I watch guys like Jackson Dart, it always makes me think of the balance between being a really efficient pocket player and the ability to use your legs. And it depends on the quarterback, where you fall on that sort of spectrum, where you fall on that line. But he's clearly in this given game, just his first game, he was a little quick to move. And then some of that is mental. You don't see it the right way. And some of that is just physical because that's what you've always done.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, let's. Let's move to Lamar Jackson and the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, it does feel like because they've got weapons. Lamar has been around this league for a long time, but it does feel like. Are people defending him differently now? I will argue that Spags has so many games against him that the more you see of Lamar Jackson, the better your odds are. That's why he's been so great against the nfc. You never see him. And all of a sudden it's like, well, we can't even duplicate that at practice. I think Kansas City's got His number. And I also think they're a little in his head. But are people defending Lamar different?
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Greg Cosell
A little bit. And I think one of the things you're seeing more and more teams do, even Detroit did it, I think, the week prior, is they're putting people on the line of scrimmage. So now what your quarterback has to do, Lamar has to do it, is you've got to change protections because you've got to account for people on the line of scrimmage. Then. So what you do is you go to six and seven man protections, then you drop people out. Teams are using a spy, but they're using it a little bit differently. Colin. And I think this is an important point. The spy is a little bit closer to the line of scrimmage. And because Lamar likes to run forward, he's not a guy like. He's not like Josh Allen, who always seems to run to his right outside. Lamar likes to run forward. So now you have a guy a little closer to the line of scrimmage. There's not enough space. There's not enough room. Yeah, he might be a better athlete than the player who's spying him, but he still needs space. And they're trying to really cut down on his space now. I don't know if this is the first time anybody's done this. I can't remember every game in his career. But, you know, sometimes things happen to work in a given week. I'm not a blueprint guy. I don't think, oh, every team should do this, and it automatically works. I guess he's going to be out for a couple of weeks now anyway. But I think teams are always trying to tweak and come up with a different way, show different looks, make him think through the play, make him react differently. And it's been effective the last couple of weeks.
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Colin Cowherd
So I kept joking with J. Mac all week. I said, if you could just put Xavier Worthy in, it'll give him a deep threat and it'll give him a guy that can throw to eight times. I don't think he's a one, but I do think he forces you to defend differently because of his speed. And it was interesting. They brought him in and suddenly all the underneath routes were open. So again, I think when Rasheed Rice gets back with Worthy and JuJu Smith and Travis, that's a real NFL offense. I don't think they run the ball particularly well, but I do think, no. When I watched that game, I thought, oh, that team. That team can compete for the Super Bowl. I didn't think that two weeks ago.
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Greg Cosell
Right. Well, it's funny you say that because for the last couple of years, we talked about the Chiefs as being one of the slowest teams in the league. Now all of a sudden, they're one of the fastest. It's not just worthy. Thornton is a burner. Hollywood Brown can run and keep an eye on that back. Rashad Smith, the rookie from smu, you know, he was a college receiver. I think it might have been in Miami. And then he transferred to SMU where they made him a running back. But this kid is another explosive athlete. He's another guy that runs under 4.
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Colin Cowherd
4.
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Greg Cosell
So keep an eye on him. They'll start using him more and more. So all of a sudden, and it shows up in the way they're playing, they are now again pushing the ball down the field. They did not do that the last couple of years much at all. And when they did, they were not very good at it, even with Mahomes, who obviously can make any throw at a high level. But now, all of a sudden, they're one of the fastest wide receiver units in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Isn't that something? All right, Bills face New England. I'm really interested. I know the Bills are the more interesting team to the country, but I did feel that Drake May was a little less polished. Justin Herbert, I got to tell you, I like their run room. They found a left tackle. I think he looks the part. I don't. They're not going to beat Buffalo. I doubt it. But, Greg, I think we. I said this last year after about 10 games with Bo Nix, I'm like, that works in the NFL. I watch Drake May. I know it's early, but that. That works to me. I think he feels comfortable.
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Colin Cowherd
I agree they're not asking a lot, but you tell me it looks like they found their guy.
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Greg Cosell
Well, first of all, all we have is what he's done up to this point. You know, I always say this every week when I'm with you. You know, we're not going to talk about what's going to happen in six weeks. We have no idea. But what we have right now, we. We have a poised, composed, comfortable quarterback. And there's two areas where he's been outstanding this year, and I think most coaches would view those as litmus test areas. Number one, he's been phenomenal on third down. Colin. And he's been phenomenal versus pressure. Those are two, two critical areas for young quarterbacks. Most young quarterbacks struggle with those Two things, those two situations and he's been phenomenal. So I really like what I've seen up to this point. I think their run game needs to start becoming a little better. You know, they've got good backs. You know, you mentioned Will Campbell, the left tackle. It's really interesting watching him. And I had this conversation with a really well respected O line coach who is, and most online coaches are a believer in arm length. They say that 60% of the snaps you can do everything right and you look really good and arm length isn't an issue. It's the 40% where you, your technique breaks down, you have to be reactive and that's where arm length comes into play.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. All right. Every year I pick a team that I think is significantly better than the experts. Last year it was Washington and Denver. The year before it was the Rams, people thought they were in a rebuild. The year before that the Vikings. So I've been in a role. I this year it was the Seahawks. I think John Snyder is an excellent gm. I think the last three drafts have been outstanding. And you and I have both liked Darnold for a long time. When I watch them sometimes, Greg, I do the sound down test. Turn the sound down, check the announcers out, watch the speed and athletic ability of a team. And when you turn the sound down with the Seahawks and you just forget who they are, that team has got athletes Jackson, Smith and Jigba. I'm sorry, but that's a number one. You're watching Darnold. I, I don't know. I'm not saying they're Philadelphia. I'm not saying they have that roster. But the film has got to say they're athletic. They play with a lot of energy, do they not?
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Greg Cosell
They sure do. And what you really notice it. And yes, Darnold is very, very good and he's played very well going back to last year with Minnesota and certainly this year. And one of the things he does as well as any quarterback in the league is throw the ball down the field. But you look at that defense now, that defense is really athletic. They're very good on defense. And a lot of people are probably not thinking about them as a really good defensive team. And by the way, they even gotten to play because he was injured in the preseason. Nick Emenwauri, I guess he was an early second round pick, if I'm not mistaken, the safety from South Carolina, who I think within the context of how Mike McDonald plays defense is going to be a really impactful player. So to me this is a pretty complete team. They'd like to get their run game going a little more, but I think it will because Kenneth Walker has a lot of ability. But right now I look at Seattle as a really solid team.
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Colin Cowherd
I want to talk Philadelphia. This is bizarre.
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Greg Cosell
They have had totally bizarre.
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Colin Cowherd
They have had the two worst offensive halves. Not Tennessee, not Houston, not, not, not Carolina, not the Saints. The two worst offensive halves of football have been the Eagles first half against the Rams second half last week they're trying to get AJ Brown the ball. It worked against the Rams, who don't have size at corner. This thing is. This thing is. Is it the offensive coordinator? Is it the play calling? They go into these holes where it's just a mess. What is it?
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Greg Cosell
It's a hard question to answer, but I will tell you this. The offensive line has not played well this year and the tape tells you that. And I think the assumption, because it's been maybe the best offensive line in football for the last two, three years. The assumption just is, oh, it's a great O line. Well, this year it has to that level. And Barkley, they're still giving him the ball. He's got the most first down rushes of any back in the league, but he's averaging three yards of carry and again yards before first contact is awful. And Barkley is a little bit of a searcher and a looker when he doesn't feel that he has room. So sometimes he leaves yards on the field. But the pass game, I mean if I said to you, Colin, here's a team that can't, that's not throwing it very well and not running it very well, you'd probably say, well, they can't be very good record wise yet they're 4, 0.
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Colin Cowherd
They're just.
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Greg Cosell
The passing game just is not comfortable to me right now. There's not a lot of clean looks for Jalen. Hurts. I don't feel like he's comfortable with what he's looking at. Normally they work outside the numbers really effectively. Jalen is phenomenal throwing the ball outside the numbers. Other than the Rams game in that second half, you haven't seen much of that at all. So I don't know. To me it's a mystery, but they're not very good right now on offense.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. So coming out of the draft, I definitely did not like JJ McCarthy as much as the GMs and I like Bo Nix more. So I watched Oregon and at Auburn and I thought with Sean Payton it was going to work. One of the things that I'm always impressed with him is that when it's a ball out into the flat and it can be to Mims, Sutton, Harvey, anybody, he puts that ball right out in front. So the receiver, the pass catcher catches it running, they don't have to wait for it. It's not a lollipop. It's very Brady. It is a tight spiral and that's an underrated skill. He is really accurate, like 8, 9 yards, just bang, bang, very crisp. He was great against Cincinnati. What does the film say on Bo Nixon?
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Greg Cosell
Well, it's funny you say that because 95% of run after catches on the quarterback, not on the receiver. You just have to go back to Bill Walsh for that. We all know that. If you watch tape, it's funny you mention Nix. The first couple of weeks of this season he struggled. He was not getting clear pictures. He reacted to pressure that wasn't there. Sometimes it looked like he was inventing pressure. He just didn't play well through the first two weeks, which sometimes happens with a second year quarterback, particularly after they've had success as a rookie. But the last two weeks he started to play better and I thought against Cincinnati he clearly had his best game. And I think he's a really solid player. You know, you know me, I don't get caught up in is he top five, top six? You know, I don't get caught up in that. But I think he's starting to play a little more comfortably, a little more calmly. And I think that with Sean Payton he gets set up in good situations and if you want we can go right to the play of the week because it's going to be Bo Nix and it's just to me an example of really good coaching. It's the touchdown he threw which were actually looking at right now. We'll see it. It's a touchdown he threw this past week to Cordelan Sutton. And to me this again is just a really good example of coaching and how you set up plays. And this is Nixon, an empty set. So what is he looking at? He's looking at a post safety. Okay. He sees a single high safety. And what does he see across the board? Looks like man to man across the board. So what's the route concept here? And it's a great route concept for this. Look, it's five verticals. They're going to run five verticals. So the matchup we want to focus on, of course is Cordelan Sutton versus the corner that happens to be Dax Hill. So now there's what you really want to do here is you want to create distance between the post safety and the corner that's playing Sutton. That's what you're trying to do. So how do you do that? You do it with your receiver, with Sutton, who will widen his vertical stem. He wants to move the corner and expand the corner. That's what he's trying to do. But then the other part of this is going to be on Bo Nix, and we'll see that from the end zone, he's got to control the safety because he's got to create the passing window. And you can see it from this angle. You'll see as he drops back, that his head is looking first to the left, then down the middle. And you can see the safety subtly slide into the middle of the field. So it creates distance to create the passing window. These are the subtleties of playing quarterback in the NFL that have to become second nature because otherwise if you don't bring, if you don't control that safety, he just slides right there and you don't have the throw. These are the little things you, you learn and that becomes second nature as you play the position at the NFL level.
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Colin Cowherd
So good. 46 years NFL film. Greg Cosell, as always, thank you very much.
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Greg Cosell
Thanks, Colin. Love it. Talk to you next week.
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Colin Cowherd
He's on Fox Sports Radio on the weekends as well. So it's guys, fired up for Yankees, Red Sox tonight. We have Ian o' Connor, last hour, he's going to talk about that.
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Greg Cosell
It is, it is.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, it's just there are certain positions in sports that I temper my criticism and baseball managers are not setting the lineups. A lot of work is done upstairs. So, I mean, a college football coach at a small market will make more than Aaron Boone or Alex Cora. Why? Because the college football coach is so essential. They do all the recruiting. And you know, baseball managers, outside of three or four of the top guys, you know, they don't, they don't get paid a lot by their club. And that tells you what the club thinks is that, you know, the GMs now are the guys pulling the strings. So it's hard, you know, when, you know, Ben Rice isn't out there, Jazz isn't playing well. It's not really the same team. But the analytics say, you know, play other guys. So we'll see. You know, J. Mac, I, I don't you sometimes you and I were critical of athletes.
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Jason McIntyre
Sometimes, sometimes, rarely.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I, I, sometimes I, I, I, I want to be the bigger man. And so I wrote. I'm old school. I I'm, I'm coming around the corner here. I'm. I wrote some apology letters. I went to the post office. I know our government shut down, but the post office is still working. I'm gonna. I wrote some letters last night. I had a little extra time watching the Yankees Red Sox. I want to introduce those around the corner. You know, you get a little older, you just, you know, you want to maybe get a little soft. But you know, stamps post office still works for me.
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Cool.
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Colin Cowherd
We're going to New York in our final hour. Game three tonight. When I used to work at the other place, I'd never been to Yankee Stadium as a kid. So I went to Yankee Stadium a couple times and you know, it smelled and it was old and my takeaway was I was really hungry and there was no place to watch the game and then simultaneously eat a decent meal. And you know, I didn't want to eat hot dogs and, you know, crappy food. So the new Yankee Stadium, it's got fruit stand, it's got 25 great restaurants, but it's, it, you know, it doesn't quite feel even last night you saw those empty seats behind the plate. It doesn't quite fit a much nicer stadium. It has better amenities. But there is something about old stadiums and the ghosts and the history and they kind of shake. The camera shakes. So, you know, I just. When I watch the Yankees, it's hard to get away from the George and the Billy Martin era when I grew up with Reggie Jackson and Billy Martin and the feuding and the weird press conferences. But I don't know who I like. Tonight's two young pitchers. I don't think. I don't think home field matters much. I think it's starting pitching. Game one, Red Sox had an ace. Game two, Yankees had the better pitcher. So who has to go to the bullpen sooner? And then, you know, you can't make errors. You got to take advantage on the bases. But I did think Jazz Chisholm playing like mattered analytics guys, you know, maybe in game one didn't want it, but he mattered. J. Mac with the news.
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Greg Cosell
No, no, no, turn on the news.
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Jason McIntyre
This is the her. Colin. We are talking about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Even though they're on their bye week three and one and they're on top the division. Lamar's hurt. Joe Burrows hurt. Steelers insider. Mark. Shoot, I'm going to butcher his last name so I won't even say Cavalli. Mark Cavalli. Yeah, listen, I don't know that I agree with him here. He said Aaron Rodgers has been the most important player on the Steelers.
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Josh Allen
I think he's team mvp. I think he's an A. You couldn't expect anything more from him right now. I mean, forget that those are the tangible things that we can see. But just how he's being able to interact with some of the players I think is something that none of us were able to foresee. I didn't think he would be that type of a guy. I mean, just look at that Minnesota game. Bob, was there a happier guy out there?
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Colin Cowherd
I totally agree. This is where I'm going to agree. This is an organization that has had no feel for offense regardless of coordinator. It's had no feel for offense. I'm supposed to suddenly now believe after six years they can run the football. I like Najee Harris better than the current running backs and yet they run the ball better. Now, why is that?
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Jason McIntyre
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. So here are the rushing total rushing leaders for the Steelers. Week one against my jets, Jalen Warren 37. Then Warren had 48 the next week, then 47. Then Gainwell had 99. So it's, it's not really the running. It's not Aaron Rodgers. The MVP is Arthur Smith, the OC he is calling. Great stuff, Colin. Let's Be real.
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Colin Cowherd
He was, he was there last year.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. But he's calling great better stuff this year. He's adapted and changed maybe some of its Rogers. You know, if we're being honest, luck is the real MVP for the, for the Steelers. They got lucky that the jets fumbled that kickoff. When the jets were dominating that game. They got lucky against the Patriots with five turnovers and they got lucky to face Carson Wentz. Here are the quarterbacks. Sorry, one, one last thing. Steelers have beaten Justin Fields. They lost to Sam Darnold. They beat second year quarterback Drake May and they beat Carson Wentz.
- [32:02]
Colin Cowherd
Well, Drake May is pretty good.
- [32:04]
Jason McIntyre
He's a second year quarterback. Come on. They've been lucky. Colin, come around. Stop giving Rodgers credit. He doesn't deserve it.
- [32:12]
Colin Cowherd
No, I think, I think sometimes Aaron's done a good job with an offense that struggled for six to seven years and sort of he's great on back shoulder throws. He's had about six key back shoulder throws. I know Pff thinks he's a bomb but that's because he's not throwing the ball down the field.
- [32:34]
Jason McIntyre
It takes down Charlie.
- [32:35]
Colin Cowherd
He doesn't need to because the defense is stealing the ball. He's winning the field position. I mean the Minnesota game, instantly you're five minutes in, it's like, all right, they lead. They are creating leads and field position advantages and Aaron's smart enough to go, I'm going to make a couple big back shoulder throws. I do not need to throw ball down the field. Remember they lost their left tackle and George Pickens. You lose your left tackle and your best receiver and yet the offense gets much better with the same offensive coordinator. Aaron deserves credit.
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Jason McIntyre
They come out of the by and they face the mighty Dylan Gabriel followed by the immortal Jake Browning. Colin, this is just cream puff stuff. I mean this is basically like Georgia in college football playing like directional roast beef Tech. Okay, that like that's what the Steelers are doing now. They're getting Lucky Rogers. Oh, that guy. Next up, let's go to oh Eagles. Everybody loves A.J. brown. The story that won't go away. Brown is actually taking some responsibility for his tweet over the weekend saying it wasn't a shot at the organization and addressed whether he's happy in Philadelphia.
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A.J. Brown
This is my home and I love it here, you know, but you just see frustration because obviously you know, we want to be great and most, most definitely I want to be great as well. You know, I don't think it's a bad thing. For one, the ball, it's not just for targets or anything to put numbers up. But no, I see that, that we're struggling and I'm a guy that wants the ball in those times when we can't find a way. Give it to me. Like when the game's on the line, give the ball to me. I want that. I want that pressure. I put it on myself, you know, and I work hard for it.
- [34:11]
Colin Cowherd
I have no problem with A.J. brown at all. None. They're not doing anything well and he's like, yeah, I'm great. Get me the ball. He's right.
- [34:21]
Jason McIntyre
So when I start calling for the Rock here on the show, I'm like, hey, I need the Rock. Keep me happy.
- [34:25]
Colin Cowherd
Colin, you're not A.J. brown. You're a good slot receiver.
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Jason McIntyre
Oh gosh, that's cold blooded. Final story Stefan Diggs. Colin. He spent four years with the Bills for getting traded to the Texans and now he signed with the Patriots. Sunday the Patriots head back to Buffalo in Diggs first game back at High Mark Stadium. Here's Josh Allen on the return of his former receiver.
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Josh Allen
We played him last year, so I don't think it's anything super crazy but obviously being back in Buffalo, I'm. Who knows if the emotions are going to be heightened for, for him or for the fans or whatever it is. But yes, we're just going to go out there and try to try to perform the best we can.
- [35:04]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I don't need any additives to the Buffalo offense. I think they probably need another safety. Their back end isn't great. I'll tell you though, Buffalo and Detroit Super Bowl I think would be the best one. I'm not sure I'm feeling it. I'm feeling more of a Rams.
- [35:24]
Greg Cosell
I'm.
- [35:25]
Colin Cowherd
Feeling a Ram Super Bowl. I'm not sure who comes out of the ac. I think Buffalo's the best team. But I now I watched Kansas City last week. It was like hard not to be impressed with that.
- [35:34]
Jason McIntyre
I kind of want to take the Bills here. I need to see if Milano and Oliver are back for the run defense. So you know that there's a lot of scuttlebutt in Buffalo about what happened between Allen and Diggs. There was a, a fractured relationship. I would not be surprised here if Buffalo kind of beat them down if they get their guys back just off the run defense because that defense stinks. But it's just interesting that everybody's, everybody seems to be liking the Patriots in the spot. An eight and a half point underdog.
- [36:04]
Colin Cowherd
Division rival with a quarterback playing well. You know what I like in this game? I like if the weather's good. Keep your eye on the weather. The over. Yeah, I like the over J Mac with the news.
- [36:18]
Jason McIntyre
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. The Herd LIE news.
- [36:23]
Colin Cowherd
Such good stuff today.
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Jason McIntyre
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays in Noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and.
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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
I actually like the jets with the upset there. Favorite pick of the week is the Colts. I'm telling you the watching last week, watching Dante Moore chop it up, I'm thinking to myself and the Notre Dame's quarterback car looks outstanding. All the guys I thought were going to be great have kind of come back down to earth and it's these young guys. So you and I were talking about this. It's important for the Giants because if Jackson Dart keeps playing this well they need to see if he can play. So like Russell Wilson struggling macro big pictures good for the Giants because let's get Jackson Dart out there. It's a tough schedule. He doesn't have a lot to work with. There's no neighbors can he doesn't have to win. Can he move the chains? Does he look the part? Because I mean it was very it was this time last year, weeks 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 that we were like bonix can play. It was the end of last year we looked at drake may weeks 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 oh drake may complain now. We knew Jaden Daniels early. That was obvious. We're looking at Pennix now. We're kind of having a judgment on Michael Penix. We're like oh he was awful. Oh he was good. Now I think he can play but these are really big times. These first, these first eight starts, you don't have to win them, but I have to, I have to watch and see moments and go, okay, that's, that's a little magical. That's confidence. He's not overwhelmed, Caleb. I mean Caleb Williams, there are moments you're like, yikes. But there is no question he makes big boy throws that a lot of guys don't.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah. Let me ask you about this because I know the same sir Winless and Spencer Rattlers never won a football game, but if you look at their week to week, they're actually competitive in all their games.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yeah.
- [41:47]
Jason McIntyre
And now they're facing Jackson Dart who's his first road game. No Malik neighbors. I, I. Listen, I don't advocate putting your after tax dollars on the Saints, but I like the Saints. They're winning this game outright. I'm just telling you, right.
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Colin Cowherd
Rattler's been okay. Rattler's always had a good arm. That's not it.
- [42:02]
Jason McIntyre
He's, he's, he's decent in throws under 10 yards as long as he doesn't try the, you know, hero ball stuff down the field, which is. He's a turnover machine. But I like the Saints. Yeah.
- [42:12]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So you know J. Mack. I do. Colin, right. Wrong. On a Monday. But one of the things I always try not to be, I try to be fair, even though I'm critical. And sometimes people say, well, you kind of pick on Blankety Blank and you're always, you're always harsh. And I was thinking this morning, I tend to be old school. I love to sit down and write letters. I do it all the time. Not long letters, but I like to write letters. I love the post office. I love stamps. And so I thought, you know, I just. Last night I sat down watching the Yankees and Red Sox and I penned some letters and I'd like to share them with the audience.
- [42:43]
Jason McIntyre
Yes. Cannot wait to hear people.
- [42:44]
Colin Cowherd
I've been a little critical of the first one I wrote. I wrote to Aaron Rodgers and Aaron doesn't like me. And that's okay. A lot of people don't like me. But I wrote to Aaron, I said, listen, dear Aaron Rodgers, I was wrong to call you a snarky, prickly, weird uncle. You are a baller, not a baler after all. My bad, bro. You've been magnetic, energizing and resilient in Pittsburgh. The rare eccentric quarterback who is pointing Steel City out of the darkness and in to the lights. Yours, Cece. And then I wrote another letter to Daniel Jones. Dear Danny Dimes. I said you were a bland, vanilla, unremarkable turnover machine. I was wrong. You're a steady, gritty, you're bankable. And now I'm coining you Danny Dollars after minting your franchise valuable. Yours, cc. But I wasn't done. I had to get a new pen. I ran out of ink. I got a new pen and I wrote another letter to Baker Mayfield. Dear Baker, I once called you an immature undraft, two time transfer. A frat guy in commercials. Well, it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong and well, I'm six two. You are undeniable. A flag planting rebel. A team captain of a pirate ship. The walk on quarterback forcing foes to walk the plank. Yours, cc. I wrote some other stuff on the back of that, but I'm not going to show you. Dan Campbell. I wrote one to him too. My wife's from Michigan, so I knew the zip code. Dear Dan Campbell, I laughed at you as a too much rah rah, kneecap biting meathead. And it turns out chomping on knees is authentic and strategic and culture correcting. With you at the helm, the Lions are never down, even when it's fourth. Your cc. This one was tough. This last one, I was pretty brutal. I gotta be honest. It was tough. And I don't know the area code in Dallas. Zip code. Excuse me. I wrote to Brian Schottenheimer. I said, dear Shoddy, I called the Cowboys a two win team after I saw your backwards visor. It was a loss, a lie. Excuse me? It was a lie. You're a. You're two losses in a tie. All right, that's being a smart aleck. It's all going to change. You're steady and adaptable. You're stabilizing. I'm sorry, Coach Schottenheimer. You prove that a backwards visor is just forward thinking. Yours, cc. CJ Mac. Sometimes you have to sit down and be pensive, poignant, and tell these people, listen, I know it's rough. Hopefully they open their mail. A lot of people these days don't even go to the mailbox.
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Greg Cosell
Yeah.
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Jason McIntyre
Is this the new Colin? Your Midwest sensibilities? You're writing apology letters and. Yeah, for week five of the fell. By the way, Schottenheimer, you should have just torn that one up. There's no way that they're doing anything with that guy at the helm. No shot. And quickly on Dan Campbell. He was a little goofy at the beginning, remember? He was.
- [45:47]
Colin Cowherd
He was.
- [45:48]
Jason McIntyre
They've turned it around. We'll see if it continues.
- [45:51]
Colin Cowherd
One of. One of the people in the NFL that I've just always respected their opinion was Bill Parcells. Parcells loved him. And so I was like, come on, Bill. She comes. You know what I was told, I think I've told this story a couple times. So I'm sorry, but most of you don't listen all day. So I was told by a GM I was in the off season. I was asking him about hiring coaches and how hard it is. Like seven new guys every year. Five don't work. You know, I mean, Andy Reid or Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton, that's the easy stuff. A lot of times it doesn't work. And he said, you know, you're really hiring a CEO, he doesn't have to know schemes. If you get Andy Reid or Shanahan, that's a bonus. You don't need a scheme guy. You need a man who can stand in front of 55 alphas and lead the team over the hill, create self belief because everybody's hurt by week five, guys have to believe in each other. That's very much Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh loves his players, so his players will do anything for him. And that's Dan Campbell. And then that's what I've questioned with Mike McDaniel. I don't question the intelligence. He's a. He's a scheme guy. But you can make it in this league being a culture creator and not good with schemes.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, you.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't. You can't there. It's yet to be proven. If you can make it as a great scheme guy, but your players don't really trust you or believe in you. And Dan Campbell, I remember his first year and a half, they were bad. And I went on the air. I think they played Baltimore at home, they lost. And I was like, I don't think I've ever seen a team in the league play as hard as they do. They're getting. They're getting hammered. They don't have personnel. So I think you, if you're a great CEO, you don't have to be anything in the scheme department. If you're a great scheme guy, if you don't have the ability. That was always the knock on Matt LaFleur. Everybody knew he was a great scheme guy, but he wasn't a guy who had ever stood in front of the room. And he's not a real big brash guy with a big ego now. He's become very good at that. But I Remember talking to a gm, they say he's super smart, but he doesn't have the McVeigh. Like McVeigh walks into a room and he's just like, wow. You know, Matt's kind of quiet. He doesn't need to talk a lot. But he's developed into a great culture guy as well.
- [48:02]
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's tough because with Campbell. Yes, I agree with everything you said 100%. But, Colin, there's going to come a time when there's two minutes left and it's 24. All right. Of the. Of the NFC Championship game and. And all that CEO stuff that Dan Campbell brings to the table is not going to get you over the top and get you to the end zone. Right. You need the scheme. So like most things in life, It's a little 50, 50, maybe 60, 40.
- [48:26]
Colin Cowherd
You hire the scheme, right?
- [48:28]
Jason McIntyre
So Ben Johnson as the oc, they take the. They make the jump to light speed. But early on in the Dan Campbell era, they weren't great. They needed that scheme guy. Now, have they found him in whoever their OC is now? Johnny, we'll see. I mean, listen, that Bengals game could be dangerous. I'm seeing injury report. I know you don't like them. Lions could be down both starting cornerbacks. Philadelphia, Higgins.
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Colin Cowherd
Philadelphia is a great example. Sirianni's more CEO. He's not a scheme guy. So when he had Steichen, oh, he looked great.
- [48:57]
Jason McIntyre
Yes.
- [48:57]
Colin Cowherd
Steichen leaves, he's awful. He hires Brian Johnson. It doesn't work. Then he hires Kellen Moore. It works. Kellen Moore leaves. They've got a new guy in now. It's not working.
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Jason McIntyre
Right.
- [49:10]
Colin Cowherd
So Sirianni has been incredibly dependent on Howie Roseman's drafting, but he's been as good. Nick Sirianni is an offensive guy. He has been as good as his coordinators because he's not a scheme guy. He's heavily rel now. He's hired a great one that he missed and he hired a better one. Has he missed? We don't know, but it's tough.
- [49:31]
Jason McIntyre
That's tough. It's like drafting. You don't know what you're getting. Some of these OCs, remember the Houston Texans two years ago, thought they had their guy. Awesome OC. He's lighting the world on fire with Stroud. He's gone. We're slowik now. What's he doing?
- [49:42]
Colin Cowherd
Half these guys. Did anybody ever think Tom Coughlin would beat Brady and Belichick in two Super Bowls when he was at Boston College? I mean, just don't. You don't know who you're hiring. Sometimes hour through.
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Greg Cosell
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