THE HERD - Hour 2 - Colin's Blazin' 5, Chicago Bears issues, Dave Wannstedt

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: Hour 2 – Colin's Blazin' 5, Chicago Bears Issues, Dave Wannstedt
Date: September 12, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Herd dives deep into the major weekly NFL storylines, with Colin Cowherd delivering his Blazin’ 5 picks, an in-depth discussion of the Chicago Bears' developmental priorities and issues, and a guest spot with former coach Dave Wannstedt. The hour features insights on the Green Bay Packers’ defensive turnaround, the Miami Dolphins’ culture, and college football’s evolving landscape, especially Oregon’s rise. Listeners are taken inside the NFL’s chess match between youth and experience, roster construction, and the unique pressures of high-profile markets like Chicago.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Blazin' 5 NFL Predictions (05:22–13:37)

Colin’s Picks and Rationale:

• Rams at Titans: Titans +5.5
  • Expecting a close, low-scoring game; Titans' week one mistakes are fixable.
• Seahawks at Steelers: Under 40.5 Points
  • Emphasizing both teams’ defensive strengths and lack of explosive offense.
• Broncos at Colts: Denver -2.5
  • Denver's defense will limit Daniel Jones; Bo Nix’s steady play on the road.
• Eagles at Chiefs: Eagles to win and cover
  • Eagles' superior depth, third- and fourth-down efficiency; Chiefs’ lack of reliable receivers.
• Giants at Cowboys: CeeDee Lamb Over 6.5 Receptions (Prop Bet)
  • Expecting Dallas’ offense to rebuild trust and focus targets on Lamb after a tough week.

“You can tell when a fighter has confidence because they’re aggressive. Look at the aggressiveness Green Bay’s defense plays with.”
— Colin Cowherd (03:40)

2. Green Bay Packers Defense & Team-Building (02:25–06:30, 18:11–21:36)

• Defensive Renovation:
  Colin lauds Green Bay’s hire of Jeff Hafley, a college head coach, to coordinate the defense—a rare move that’s immediately paid off, making the Packers aggressive, speedy, and hard to run on.
• Team Age and Super Bowl Readiness:
  Dave Wannstedt rebuffs concerns that Green Bay’s youth is a liability. He references his Super Bowl-winning experience in Dallas:

  “The younger you are, the less you think about the Super Bowl... Their focus is on, ‘I’m trying to establish myself in the NFL...’”—Dave Wannstedt (20:45)

• Rookie Impact & Coaching Tree:
  Wannstedt shares a humorous anecdote about hiring Jeff Hafley straight from Pitt’s open practices.

3. Chicago Bears: The Caleb Williams Conundrum (21:36–23:41, 30:39–32:57)

• Quarterback Development Priorities:
  Given Chicago’s track record, Colin suggests they must invest fully in developing Caleb Williams, allowing for three years of ups and downs.
• Offensive Balance:
  Wannstedt critiques the Bears’ game plan (35 passes, 20 runs) and stresses the need for a stronger running attack to support a young QB, referencing Ben Johnson’s admission post-game:

  “How do you help a young quarterback? Everybody knows that—you take some pressure off by running the ball…” — Dave Wannstedt (22:14)

• Chicago's Unique Sports Culture:
  The hosts compare Chicago’s intense, sports-obsessed, pressure-filled environment to the more insulated, patient atmosphere in Green Bay.

4. Miami Dolphins: Culture and Patience (23:41–25:54)

• Patient Team-Building vs. Quick Fixes:
  Colin and Wannstedt discuss Miami’s attempt to mirror Green Bay’s speed but lack defensive patience and cultural coherence.
• Significance of Player Meetings:
  Wannstedt interprets Miami’s players-only meeting as a sign of internal frustration:

  “You get those player meetings... what usually happens is, ‘Hey, come on, we got to pick it up.’ But it’s really: ‘Colin, you gotta play better defense or offense.’ It’s always somebody else.” — Dave Wannstedt (24:10)

5. Dallas Cowboys' Coaching Structure and Discipline (26:31–28:26)

• Brian Schottenheimer’s Influence:
  Colin praises Schottenheimer’s “buttoned-up” approach, noting fewer penalties and better clock management than the McCarthy era.

6. NFL Organizational Trends: Media Pressure, Roster Turnover (28:26–36:46)

• Patriots' Rough Start Explained:
  New England’s roster churn and preseason inexperience explain slow early performances; patience is advised.
• Market Differences:
  Chicago’s media and fan pressure contrast with the developmental patience in markets like Green Bay, underscoring how owners now act quickly.

7. College Football: Oregon’s Meteoric Rise (33:01–37:59)

• Oregon as a Case Study in Culture-Building:
  Colin and Wannstedt detail how Oregon’s lack of tradition allowed outside-the-box innovation, attracting national recruits despite no in-state pipeline.
• Big Ten Transition:
  Oregon is now a top-five national program, lauded for both speed and new-found physicality.
• Player Development:
  The Ducks persuade top QB prospects to sit and learn, fostering a “culture” comparable to elite programs.

  “If you told me top five programs in the country, I’d probably put Oregon four or five at the low. … I might put them higher than that.” — Colin Cowherd & Dave Wannstedt (36:23)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Green Bay’s Defense:
  “Look at the aggressiveness Green Bay’s defense plays with. … That is a confident boxer, somebody that leaves their chin open because they have so much confidence.”
  — Colin Cowherd (05:01)
• On the Bears’ Developmental Urgency:
  “Chicago’s about getting Caleb Williams right… I think they know this is about development more than wins.”
  — Colin Cowherd (12:40)
• On Coaching in Chicago vs. Miami:
  “My second year… we didn’t sell out our stadium for a playoff game [in Miami]. The first person who bought a ticket was some lady from Detroit.”
  — Dave Wannstedt (31:56)
• On Oregon’s Flexibility:
  “Oregon had no tradition. So Oregon could say, we’re going have 20 helmets, 50 uniforms… hire a guy from New Hampshire who doesn’t believe in huddles.”
  — Colin Cowherd (34:00)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Blazin’ 5 Segment & Analysis: 05:22–13:37
• Packers/Defensive Culture/Jeff Hafley Story: 18:11–21:36
• Chicago Bears Development Discussion: 21:36–23:41
• Miami Dolphins Culture Talk: 23:41–25:54
• Cowboys/Coaching Discussion: 26:31–28:26
• Patriots & Roster Turnover: 28:26–30:39
• Chicago’s Market Pressure: 30:39–32:57
• College Football—Oregon Evolution: 33:01–37:59

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Summary & Takeaways

This episode blends forward-looking NFL analysis (through the Blazin’ 5) with inside perspectives from both Colin and coach Dave Wannstedt, offering listeners a layered understanding of organizational culture, coaching trends, the balance of youth and experience, and how market dynamics affect both teams and player development. Major storylines include Green Bay’s innovative defensive approach, Chicago’s struggle to nurture a franchise quarterback amid local pressure, Miami’s internal discord, and Oregon’s rise as a model for college football transformation.

Listeners come away with an appreciation for how context—be it roster structure, market, tradition, or coaching philosophy—shapes both the short- and long-term trajectories of top teams.

Transcript

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Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Here we go. Our number two hour one flies by. This is the Herd. Urban Meyer, last hour. Dave Wanstadt's gonna sit next to me that we got some great stories. You know Green Bay's defensive coordinator, Jeff Halfley. Dave Wanstadt gave him his first job. Dave Wanstadt gave first job. So I swear to God, about a third of the league. And he's going to join us on the Bears, he's going to join us on the packers and the Miami Dolphins and the Dallas Cowboys and a lot of different topics. Today I will say this about Green Bay. You know, it was really strange when a, when a defensive, when a head coach in college quit and became a coordinat in the NFL. That doesn't happen a lot. But that's what the Green Bay packers did. The Lions. No, no, they, they got very insular, very provincial. We're gonna just, we're just gonna hire guys in the building to replace these two coordinators. Green Bay is like, now we're gonna try something that nobody really does. We're gonna go hire a college head coach who's a very good coach making a great living. We're gonna make him a defensive coordinator. And you can't run on Green Bay. And Micah Parsons is still between the first two games playing about 50, 60% of the snaps. So you can tell when a fighter has confidence because they're aggressive. You know, Mike Tyson's early days, look at the aggressiveness Green Bay's defense plays with. It is a attack style defense. Why they have so much confidence in their ability and their speed to make up if they get beat. So when you watch, when you watch a defense that is hyper aggressive, that is a confident boxer, that's somebody that leaves their chin open because they have so much confidence in their ability to knock you out. They're not worried about protecting themselves. When I'm watching Green Bay on both sides, they are taking big swings down the field. And here's the thing about Jordan Love. You know, for years I said this about Justin Fields. He's tall, he's a good kid, his teammates like him, he's got a great arm, he's athletic. Why doesn't it work? Jordan Love is all those things, but it's just better from the pocket and getting better coaching. So Jordan Love in terms of traits, that's what NFL people call it, traits. Size, arm mobility, athleticism, toughness. His traits are unbelievable. And you know, we just don't naturally Put him into the top 10. But I mean, Kraft is going to be a multiple time Pro Bowler. You just wait. Wait till Matthew golden gets a few games under his belt from Texas and Reed's healthy and Romeo Dobbs can be hit and miss on, you know, dependability. But why I'm watching Green Bay the last two weeks. That is the best team in the league. And they're young and they're inexpensive at most positions. Micah and Jordan Love are making money. They got a guard making some money. They're not paying a lot of guys big money. So I mean, here's the thing. They let go of Kenny Clark, Green Bay let go of Kenny Clark, who's an elite interior lineman. And their defense looks better. So that tells you how well they've drafted and developed. They let go of an elite. I mean, you saw Kenny Clark in week one against Philadelphia make an imprint. Kenny Clark's a really good player. He's 30, 31 years old, so he's probably at the end of his peak. He's a good player. Green Bay gave him up. They're not even playing Micah 70% of the snaps. And they're a dominating defense against the two most efficient offenses in the league last year, Detroit and Washington totally shut him down. Totally discombobulated Jaden Daniels and the Detroit Lions. So this is not a mirage. All right, here we go. It is time off a winning week. I think it's my first winning week on blazing five and week one in like forever. Here we go. That's a hot one. Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins blazing five. Rams at Titans. I like the Titans and five and a half points. This is the second lowest total on the board. So it's got a, it's got a, you know, 23, 20 feel to it. I'm going to take the five and a half points. The Titans mistakes in week one are easy to clean up. They had a lot of drop passes and penalties, but they got a real rush on Bo Nix. They forced Denver into four turnovers. And the Rams offensive line, two of their top three offensive linemen are banged up. Rams scored on their final drive of the first half and their first drive of the second half otherwise didn't score. So I think this is low scoring. I think the Titans mistakes against an aggressive, very good defensive defense were understandable for Cam Ward's first game. I think I'm going to take the Titans. I think it's a 2320 game. I'll take the Rams to win, but I'm absolutely taking the five and a half points with Tennessee Seahawks, it's Steelers take the under 40 and a half. Pittsburgh's got too much pride and too much talent to look like they look in week one. Defensively, they're going to play with their hair on fire. Defensively, Mike Tomlin had to be humiliated by that. They have too many good players. And Seattle's offense, it's not going to be a high powered offense. It's a run first offense. They don't have a number one receiver. And under Mike McDonald, you know eight of the 18 games, 20 points or fewer. So last week, Seattle game, that's what Seattle's gonna look like. They're gonna keep teams in the 23 to 20 range and they're not gonna score a ton of points. That's not what they are. They don't have the perimeter weapons. So I think Sam Darnold struggled in his last couple of games. Come back down to earth. Take the under 40 and a half points. This feels very 2017, 2117. I like Seattle to win, but take the under 40 and a half points. Broncos and Colts. I like Denver minus two and a half. So listen, eight and two against teams that missed the playoffs last year. And Bo Nix has been strangely good on the road. His last four road starts his passer rating is 107. So I think Daniel Jones, let's not kid ourselves. His last 17 starts, he's 4 and 13. They played a Miami team that defensively quit. Don't overreact to week one. It was home. Jim Ursay was being celebrated, the late great owner. It was a very emotional place. Denver's defense is going to get Daniel Jones off the field very quickly. I like the Broncos to win and cover 27 to 20, Eagles and Chiefs. I think it's close and low scoring, but I'm going to take Philadelphia to win and cover. Listen, they led 34 nothing in the third quarter against Kansas City. They got more good players. They've won 17 of 18 games including the playoffs. And if Jaylen Hertz starts and finishes a game, they've won 15 straight. They're excellent on third down and they're excellent in the red zone and they're excellent on fourth down and that matters. On the road in a close game, they're going to pick up those third and fourth, fourth downs they're going to make plays in the red zone. I think Kansas City comes out with incredible pride, plays over themselves and makes it close. But The Chiefs are 2 and 3 in their last five games, Xavier Worthy if he doesn't play, they don't have a one receiver. They don't have a number two receiver. And Travis Kelce, they'll probably box him in. I think it's really low scoring. I think it's close. But I'm going to take Eagles with a late touchdown to win 28 to 20. Giants and Cowboys. I'm taking a prop bet. Take CD Lamb over six and a half receptions. Okay. He had a miserable week one three drops. I believe Brian Schottenheimer to build trust with his young receiver. They're going to have a steady dose of CD Lamb. Schottenheimer and Dak are going to say, listen, we need you, brother. We're going to throw to you 15 times. By the way, he has eaten against the Giants. He averaged 7.4 receptions a game since 2023. That's highest in the league. And again, this is still not a great running back room. It's still a pretty average tight end room. And George Pickens does not separate like Ceedee Lamb. So I think to prove that they Trust CeeDee Lamb, CD Lamb is not going to have three drops. He's played well against the Giants. I'm going to take the over on catches, six and a half. I think CD Lamb is going to be a prim Dallas target. So take the Titans and the points, the Broncos and Eagles to cover the under on the Seahawks, Steelers and CD Lamb to have a very, very big game. You know, I saw a quote this morning from Detroit's new offensive coordinator, John Morton. He said they play the Bears. Lions is a very, very interesting early window game and he's. John Morton says we are not in panic mode. John, have you seen who you're playing next week? You're at Baltimore. Baltimore is not in a good mood having lost to Buffalo, having controlled the game. You can deny you're going to be in panic mode, but you got Baltimore next week and then you've got at Joe Burrow at Mahomes and Baker Mayfield. Oh, and then Kevin o' Connell and then Jaden Daniels on the road and at Philadelphia. Detroit needs to win. Chicago would like to win, but Chicago's got the Cowboys coming up, the Raiders coming up and then a bye week. So. And I also think Detroit's about winning games at this stage in their development. Chicago's about getting Caleb Williams. Right. So you can deny it's, it's not panic mode, but I'm going to stay away from this game. But if I had to take a side I do think urgency matters and I think Detroit is the side here. I think Detroit, you can tell your players we're not in panic mode. Everybody has a schedule in that locker room at Baltimore. Just put a big L on your little pocket schedule. Put a big L on that one. I think Detroit's going to come out and it's going to feel like it is a absolute must win game. Teams can say it's must win Chicago, it is for Detroit or this thing's going to derail fast. You just watch the packers, you're going to be two games back. You want me two games back by 4 o', clock? You know, you know, Sunday, 0 and 3 seasons done. You're not making the playoffs. So Dave Wonstadt joining us next. Be sure to catch live editions of.

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[Dave Wannstedt]

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[Colin Cowherd]

It just so happens all the stories I'm fascinated about. Dave Wanstadt, 39 years coaching NFL and college is so connected to, to all of them. And I want to start with Green Bay. They went and got a, a college football coach and said, we're going to bring you in to coach our defense. And that's not what happens much. You know Jeff Hathley, are you surprised that in a 1819 game since he arrived, the defense is just noticeably better?

[Dave Wannstedt]

No, I'm not. Because he's got a great background. Proud to say that I was part of that, but I'm not kidding, but it's kind of a funny story. He was coaching at University of Albany, and when I was the head coach at Pitt, I was one where if a young coach wanted to come down and watch practice or sit in the meetings, I was never one of those guys. We're secretive. No, I wanted to. These guys want to learn. Come in here and learn. Right? That's how we all grew up. That's how the Marv Levies and the Marty Schottenheimers, how they treated me when we wanted to go around and visit. And so Halfley, the defense coordinator says, this guy's coming in, Jeff Halfley, watch practice. Great. So he's in practice, you know, hey, how you doing? I meet him, like the next day. I'm getting coffee and he's standing at the coffee machine. I said, oh, how you doing? Oh, yeah, how was practice? You learned anything? Oh, yeah, coach, thanks. It's great. I said, well, okay, let me know. Like a week later, I go to coffee or walk by and it's Jeff Halfley again. So this is a true story. So don't you know. Two weeks into spring practice, one of my young coaches leaves. So I go to the defensive coordinator, says, what's with this Halfley guy? I said, he's here every day. I says, did somebody offer him a job? We might as well hire him. Wait. And he says, well, coach, we got an opening right now. Guy just left. So I said, well, tell Halfley to come down to my office. So he came in. I said, listen, you're here every damn day. Anyway, we got a staff meeting in 30 minutes. You're the secondary coach. Okay. That's how he gets. So then when I leave Pitt, Greg Sciano calls me. Greg's at Rutgers, Greg calls me and says, who's two of your best coaches? And I say, jeff Halfley and another guy. So Greg hires him at Rutgers, and then Greg gets a Tampa Bay job and he goes to the Bucs and gets in the NFL.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. No, I mean, he's done a great job. What jumped out to me, I guess the only thing I'd worry about Green Bay is this. Are they too young to win a Super Bowl?

[Dave Wannstedt]

No, absolutely not. No. You know why? Because the younger you are, the less you think about the Super Bowl. I don't think when we won our first super bowl, we were the youngest team in the NFL. Dallas was Dallas. And I don't think. Jim. I know. Not. I don't think I know. Jimmy never mentioned the word super bowl until we were going to the Super Bowl. I mean, it was all about just another game getting better, getting better, and let's keep practicing and see if we can improve and beat this next team. So sometimes these young players, not naive isn't the word, but their focus is on, I'm trying to establish myself in the NFL and I want, you know, I want some notoriety. They're not thinking super bowl as much as the guy Sundays, I got three years left. I mean, it's the ring or nothing. So I think it's a good thing, to be quite honest with you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. The speed is obvious. So I want to talk, you know, you know Chicago well, and I had set up during the summer. I said, I almost wonder if you have to make Caleb Williams work. They have failed so many times at quarterback that you're just going to have to give him three years and you're not going to win every game. You may not make the playoffs, but you got to get this right and eventually he'll get some things down. Or are you a believer that if it looks like it looks through seven or eight games where he's missing layups and he's running more than he should, I mean, what happens if he's not good this year? What do you do in Chicago?

[Dave Wannstedt]

Yeah, I think I'm not going to go down that road. I live here. Okay. But I'm going to say that I think it's going to work because of the style of offense. And head coach Ben said, Ben Johnson said afterwards, who I'm a fan of, he said afterwards, I should have run the ball more. They had 35 passes and only 20 runs. Okay. You know, so how do you help a young quarterback? Everybody knows that you take some pressure off him by running the ball and then those play action passes, I mean, if you're playing Detroit, you know, Ben was at Detroit when he was there, they were second in the NFL with yards. After the catch with our receivers, that was the biggest thing that everybody was excited about. Here we're going to have a good play action game and hit these receivers. You see St. Brown and these guys catching on the run.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's because they run first.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Thank you. Exactly. You're right, coach. I mean, that's what they do. They run first. And we came out the very first play of the game and we lined up under center. I loved it. The quarter the running back was dotted with and we went play action pass and everybody just dropped into coverage, you know, because we hadn't run the ball. And then he threw the check down. Everybody was saying, why didn't he throw it deep? Well, I mean, the check down was open. But my point is what you just said and Ben said it, we got to run the football.

[Colin Cowherd]

The. You, you've talked about this before. You coached in Miami. You're the last coach in Miami. We were, I was saying this earlier, is that Green Bay today, with their speed, is what Miami wanted to be three years ago with their speed. The difference is one of them has patience, one of them plays defense. Is that. I don't think you and I have ever kind of believed in McDaniel building a culture. We think he's a smart guy. But they had a players only meeting after week one. What does that tell you?

[Dave Wannstedt]

Well, that, that tells you that they're frustrated. That tells you that somebody in their minds is not carrying their end of the load. You know, it's not. There's something missing, you got to pick it up. That's, you know, you get those player meetings. That's what usually happens.

[Colin Cowherd]

When you. Did Jimmy ever have a players only meeting in Dallas?

[Dave Wannstedt]

No, I don't remember if the play, if the players did, you know, I can't remember one. I can't remember one. Anywhere I coach, I mean, they have them, but usually what happens is, hey, come on, we got to pick it up. And they're really saying, colin, you gotta, you gotta play better defense or you gotta play better offense. It's never them, okay? It's never the guy talking or calling the meeting. It's always somebody else needs to do a better job. And I don't know, you know, when Miami, we say they were fast and they were explosive, but it still came. Comes down to throw the ball, to score points, run the ball to win games. That's what got the Bears on Sunday. They could not run the ball. Minnesota could at the end of the. When everybody said, okay, we got an even game here and they knew they were going to run it and you knew you had to run. Didn't happen. It didn't happen, you know, but Minnesota did. I go back to the Dolphins game three years ago. They're playing Buffalo in the playoffs.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, I remember this.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Remember. And a third team quarterback is in there, Skyler Thompson. Thank you. Thank you. Skyler Thompson's in there. Who's the third team. And they lose the game to Buffalo. And I look at the stats and it was 35 passes and 20 runs with the. And I'm thinking of my. And it was cold.

[Colin Cowherd]

It was in Buffalo And a third string quarterback.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Third string quarterback. So I mean some guys told me.

[Colin Cowherd]

After that you kind of, you, you.

[Dave Wannstedt]

I was done with that was it. I saw everything. I mean you, you know these, these guys got to still believe in running the ball. And I think Ben Johnson back to you, I think he does because he proven, you know, three years as Colin plays in Detroit that he ran the football. And so I think it'll happen. I think it'll be good for Caleb. I really do. I might move him around a little bit more. Not, you know, just a little half sprint and let him get the ball out. Everybody gives you that crap. Oh, we're going to cut the field in half. So what if it's a run pass option for the quarterback and if you complete some balls to give him some confidence, I don't see a problem with that.

[Colin Cowherd]

I thought Dallas, I wouldn't say shocked me, but I. If CD Lamb doesn't drop that deep ball and CD is a good player so he'll, he'll. They're going to go to him again. I had my reservations about Brian Schottenheimer who hadn't interviewed for a head coaching job in 14 years. He's considered sort of an old school offensive guy compared to the new guys. What did you. I guess my take was this, is that they were buttoned up. There weren't a lot of penalties. The clock management was good. Is that Brian Schottenheimer allowing his coaches to coach because Ebert Flutes can coach defense. But when I watched them, the thing that kind of took me by surprise was I liked Mike McCarthy but there was a lot of penalties. I didn't like Lock Management, Schottenheimer. I thought that Dallas looked buttoned up.

[Dave Wannstedt]

To me, they did and they were. You know, he's got, he's got a lot of experience. You know, his dad was an outstanding coach in the NFL, Marty, you know, for years. So he is. He's been around good people. And you mentioned Matt Eberfluss. Matt Eberfluss is ex head coach. So you got a guy that's your coordinator that, you know, can call defensive.

[Colin Cowherd]

And he knows what a head coach needs.

[Dave Wannstedt]

He knows what a head coach needs, something, somebody to bounce some things off of. So. And I think Jerry De, deep down really, really wants us to be successful and wants us to work. And I think that the players feel right now they've got a young enough team, they've turned it over. They've got pretty good guys. They've got young guys. Anybody that was a potential rough the feathers type of guy I think is gone. So they get a good young team and if Dak stays healthy and plays good, but you're going to see them win some of those games if they had a chance to win against Philadelphia.

[Colin Cowherd]

So one of the teams that really was just did not look very good was New England. And I defended them. I said, first of all, they spent 300 million in free agency, so there's a lot of new starters. You didn't play those guys in the preseason, Right. They're a young roster, so they're going to play more draft picks than your good teams. So my takeaway was they didn't look good because I could argue there's no team in the league that has more new starters and new players. Which years ago, in, in week three of the preseason, you play them half the game, right? Nobody plays starters. So week one of the NFL season, for a team with new players, it's. It's going to get ugly. I mean, there were some. I mean, like, it's just the way it looks. Go back to your Jimmy days with you and Jimmy in Dallas or any place you've been in year one when it's new players and especially college, where you don't have a preseason. Do you think New England, eventually the chess pieces work. Were you ever at a place where you knew you were better than the result in week one or week two? You just knew you had new schemes, you had new playbook, you had new coordinators. Is that a real thing?

[Dave Wannstedt]

Absolutely. And I think the worst thing Variable could do is win too many too soon because he's got a good young team. You know what I Mean, so I would not be concerned if I was a Patriots fan one bit. I mean, you've got the quarterback, the running back, you got pieces in place, got a good head coach. No, I would not worry about that whatsoever. You know, you didn't play as well as you wanted to and didn't win the game. I get that. But I got no reservation. That'd be the last team. I mean, they better beat Miami this week. I mean, that's who they got. I think the Dolphins play the Patriots, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, it's down in Miami.

[Dave Wannstedt]

And that is. You talk about a must game for the Dolphins, a must game in Miami and what is it, a half, a point or a point and a half? Yeah, I was. You know, that makes me nervous. If you're a Dolphins fan, it truly does. Because if New England turns it on, which they're going to at some point point, and starts getting it together, they have some. They got players. They got players.

[Colin Cowherd]

I want to go back to the Chicago Bears because I live here now and I'm here a lot. I'm in LA about seven, eight weeks a year. But it is fascinating to listen to talk radio in this town. Cubs and Bears. That's the topics.

[Dave Wannstedt]

That's it.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's it. It's Cubs and Bears. And, you know, you coached in Miami, which was a more transient town, and then you coached in Dallas, where talk radio and the newspaper guys were aggressive. And one of the things I think about, one of the advantages to being in Green Bay, it's not a big media. The fans are loyal. You don't have a crazy, impulsive owner. There's an advantage to be Green Bay. You can draft and develop. You can sit Jordan Love for three years.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Like that's an advantage in an era where all these owners are billionaires now and they just think $45 million to fire a coach is a rounding error. They don't care. So Green Bay, in this world we live in now, it's an advantage. They don't have a lot of crazy around the organization. But as I drive around Chicago and listen to sports talk radio, it's harsh, it's urgent. And I know owners listen, and I know. I know people in football listen. When you were coaching the Bears, was it different than coaching the Dolphins? The city, it's northern. It's not as transient.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Yep. Oh, big difference.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, did you.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Pittsburgh and I've coached in Pittsburgh. I've coached in Chicago. I mean, you know, they're blue, loud. They study this football. They live it. It's important on a weekend. I mean, they live their lives through their teams, you know, And Miami my second year at the first year, we didn't division at the Dolphins, second year, go to playoffs, we didn't sell out our stadium for a playoff game. And the first person who bought a ticket was some lady from Detroit, you know, that was down here visiting. I mean, I remember they had it in the paper and I said, you think this would ever happen in Chicago or Pittsburgh? No, it just, it is a different mentality and I notice it here.

[Colin Cowherd]

And I've lived here six months, five months. Yeah, it is intense. The coverage is intense here.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Yeah. And you. And try getting a ticket to a Blackhawks game, too, for hockey. You'll see that when you're here in the winter. I mean, it's, it's. No, it's a tough sports town and it is what it is. I think it's just that blue collie mentality, you know, they're tough.

[Colin Cowherd]

Finally, I want to ask an Oregon question. Oregon plays Northwestern.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Yep.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's, you know, big noon kickoff game for Fox Sports. I was lucky enough. I covered Oregon as they were exploding as a program. I covered the Joy Harrington team. I was a sportscaster at KGW in Portland. So I was very lucky that I, I can remember being on the field and looking at Phil Knight. He's got tears in his eyes when they won the Civil War and they were going to go to the Rose Bowl. And I always thought one of the advantages to Oregon that Penn State and USC and Michigan and Notre Dame don't have is Oregon had no tradition. So Oregon could say, we're going to have 20 helmets, we're going to have 50 uniforms. We're gonna hire a guy from New Hampshire and Chip Kelly that doesn't believe in huddles. Penn State put names on the back of uniforms a few years ago. They took him off two years later. Right. Notre Dame. Lincoln Riley suggested that USC drop the Notre Dame game. There was outrage.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oregon is so fascinating to me, Coach, because they didn't have tradition, so they created their own. It's like a study in great business. When you, as a guy who's. You coached at SC and the Miami Hurricanes, how do you view Ore Oregon football as they play Northwestern this week?

[Dave Wannstedt]

Well, you know, if you really think about it, and Dan Lenning's done an unbelievable. They only got one returning starter on offense from last year's team. Think about that. They. The last three years they've been in the top five in recruiting, high school and Portal.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now think about that. There's. There's three Division 1 football players in Oregon on an annual basis, the state of Oregon. So they have to leave the state to convince you to go there.

[Dave Wannstedt]

National. You look at their roster and the thing that's happened when they first came, when all these Pac and I've been doing Big Ten football here for years, you know that. Yeah. And when all these Pac12 teams, the Oregons, the USCs, came to the Big Ten, everybody was talking about, are they going to be physical enough? You're talking about Big Ten football as compared to the fast game, the basketball game, finesse, fast of the west Coast. Well, Oregon last year wins the Big Ten. Okay. And they proved that they could be as physical as anybody. Well, now they might be. If you look at every team around the country, they're about as fast a maturing team as anybody. I mean, they're a lot better than anybody thought.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Dave Wannstedt]

And talent wise, they have talent on all levels. A lot more than anybody thought. He convinced their quarterback, Dante Moore to sit a year. So he sat. He was on the roster last year. He transferred from ucla.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's right.

[Dave Wannstedt]

He's sitting on the roster. Not playing, just watching. Dylan Gabriel, he was a five star.

[Colin Cowherd]

Like number one quarterback, country kind of player.

[Dave Wannstedt]

They convinced him to sit and watch and learn and he did that behind Gabriel and now he's the guy who's completing 77% of his passes. I mean, so they have a culture. They got great support. We know that. And Dan Lenning does a great job of getting players and coaching these guys. And I'll tell you what, Oregon, you know, we got Ohio State and you got Penn State and I get it.

[Colin Cowherd]

But I think right now, today I was saying this, if you told me top five programs in the country, I'd probably put Oregon four or five at the low.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Coach, I might put them higher than that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, Oregon, I'm putting them ahead of.

[Dave Wannstedt]

I, I won't buck Ohio State, but I would definitely put them ahead of Alabama or anybody right now. Right now.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's an, it's an incredible story right now. I mean, it's just funny that when I was part of, you know, not part of it, but when I covered them, they had such a freedom because they had no history, so they could just do whatever they wanted. They were totally outside of the box. And you look up 15 years later and you're like, they are a top five program.

[Dave Wannstedt]

And you know, when we first went to the NFL, I remember Al Davis, we would always work against the Raiders. First year, we went out there to California for training camp where the Cowboys used to go and Al Davis used to talk about, we have to get at that time, the old San Diego Chargers with Dan Fouts, Joiner and those guys, they were speed, speed. How are we going to beat the Chargers? We've got to match their speed. So the Raiders started transforming a little bit to the fast wide receivers. The matchup wouldn't be able to do what the Chargers did. Okay, Oregon comes in here and they say, this is power football. Well, now all of a sudden, after last year, the Big Ten's looking around saying, you know what? We got to be as if we're going to beat these guys and win. We got to be as fast as Oregon. We got to be as fast as Oregon. So that you talk about tradition and a little bit of transformation, there's that going on a little bit.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Dave Wannstedt]

If you look close in the Big Ten.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yep. Dave Wanstadt, great seeing you.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Good seeing you, too.

[Colin Cowherd]

You're going to take me out to dinner next week at one of your haunts.

[Dave Wannstedt]

I'm going to go. I'm going to prep a place for us tonight. It'll be warm. Your seat will be warm.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Matt Jones]

Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informed, informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Oh, my.

[Matt Jones]

So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?

[Dave Wannstedt]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Might want to go back at the Colts stadium Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah, I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's worked for generations.

[Matt Jones]

We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Prop]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Jason McIntyre]

FOX College Football Friday is under the lights in prime time this week. It's a Big 12 showdown as K State takes on Arizona tonight at 9 Eastern on Fox.

[Colin Cowherd]

Urban Meyer and Jason's picks next hour. But here's J. Mac with the news.

[Dave Wannstedt]

No, no, no, turn on the news.

[Matt Jones]

This is the herd line news.

[Jason McIntyre]

Can I just say I do laugh when you call me Jason. I'm sorry. That's like my kids. Anyways, let's start with the big game on Sunday on fox. The Chiefs and the Eagles super bowl rematch. We know Philly dominated them back in February and Rob Gronkowski believes the Eagles have provided a blueprint for beating Holmes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Feel like a lot of teams last.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Year had that fear, oh, I can't swing on the Chiefs.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, we can't give them our best shot.

[Dave Wannstedt]

The Philadelphia Eagles punch them in the face. The Chiefs didn't know how to react to that because no one else was doing that well going into this year. Now the Los Angeles Chargers punched him in the face. The Chiefs were like, whoa, they're coming at us.

[Matt Jones]

How do we react?

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, they didn't know how to react.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Because no one was doing that before. So the Philadelphia Eagles open that floodgate of, hey, if you punch these guys in the face, you take it to them, you come out swinging, they're going.

[Colin Cowherd]

To fold and they're not going to.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Be the team that you've been seeing all last year.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, what Kansas City can't do, J. Mac, what they can't do is get into track meets. They just don't have the offensive firepower. So there's a, there was always with Mahomes, multiple ways to win. Kansas City has become one of those teams where there's one way to win and that is low scoring, situational if the game gets away from them. If I told you, Phil, Philadelphia had a 14 nothing lead through seven minutes, you'd be like, game over. That's not what they're built for. So they the teams that don't win Super Bowls usually are teams that have limited routes to success. Green Bay can win a lot of ways. Philadelphia can win a lot of ways. Buffalo, Baltimore can win a lot of ways. I don't think Kansas City's in that group anymore.

[Jason McIntyre]

I would totally agree. I'm looking at the old injury report cowherd Landon Dickerson, really talented guard. Remember he got got, I think poked in the eye in the opener against Dallas, didn't return, did not practice earlier this week but he's back now. That's huge for Philly. Dallas Goddard is the other guy to watch the tight end. He's good. Like I don't know if he's Tucker Kraft good.

[Colin Cowherd]

Haha.

[Jason McIntyre]

Just kidding. But I just like this Eagles roster. I think I'm with you on the Eagles, man. Listen, if KC starts 02, I mean are we opening the show Monday? It's over. The dynasty's done.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's called trade deadline. That's when they have to go out and get go. Okay, listen. Because Xavier Worthy, if he doesn't play this week, will play the following week. But then you've got three, four more weeks of Rasheed Rice. So you start looking at the schedule. I mean I think.

[Jason McIntyre]

Is that panicky though to.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't think upgrading a weak receiving core run room is panic. I think panic is Baltimore losing the Buffalo and making a huge trade in two weeks. That's panic. Is it? This is not panic for Kansas City. This is what they are. I mean they're going to win. They're going to beat New York. Wait, hold on. The Ravens coming up and then they have to go to the Jags. So it's like they need to win this week.

[Jason McIntyre]

So again they're going to beat New York. Let's just take a deep breath. Look at that, Colin. The New York game is a sandwich spot. Okay, you go Brazil, super bowl rematch and then Lamar Jackson. You're not even thinking about the Giants and that front seven could remember they gave Jaden Daniel some problems. They could wreck that offensive line. I, I mean Juwan Taylor is a nightmare on the right side. He's not good. I think Nolan Smith is going to own him again this week. I'm just, I think we're going to have some nervous Chiefs fans if this game is close in the fourth quarter. And listen, my prediction, real playoffs. Somebody's going to be puffing their chest out. That's for sure. Colin should, should they lose again, let's move on to Micah Parsons last night. Can't stop talking enough about this domination. Look at that move, man. You're doubling Micah and he's still getting to the quarterback. I love this. After the game, Micah joined the Amazon crew and hundreds, not dozens, hundreds of fans were chanting thank you, Jerry. Thank you. Listen, I think that's exciting. And Micah talked about his Week 4 matchup with the Cowboys.

[Matt Jones]

My family and everyone's looking forward to it, but I'm just supposed to action talk and I ain't got no ride and you know, it's just gonna be funny because all my friends are there, all my friends are there, all my, you know, well, CD and, you know, trailer is the happiest guy here in T. Smith. So just going against those guys, it's gonna be heartbreakers. But damn, I'm excited for the monster.

[Colin Cowherd]

No matter who it is, it could be the best old tackle. You're all pro.

[Matt Jones]

I gotta go win. I have to win now. And that's just the rage in me. Like, I'm, like I'm pissed off.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, he also. It's such a great move for Micah because Green Bay didn't need first round picks like a lot of teams. I mean, if you watch Green Bay play, Micah was the missing piece, the great playmaker on the edge, they're fine. Everywhere else. Where you look at Dallas, Micah was this, you know, a $10 million chandelier in an empty mansion. Like they don't have enough players. So, I mean, I, I still contend people overreacted. I think it's a good move for Dallas to get four first round picks in the next two years. They can do whatever they want. Remember, when you have first round picks, those can become second and third additional picks because you can trade down because Dak's not going anywhere. So If Dallas wins six games this year and they have the eighth pick pick, that first can become the 11th pick and you just added a second second pick. So four first round picks gives you insane. When you don't need a quarterback and they have Dak for four more years under contract, it gives Dallas incredible leverage because when you watch the Ravens and the packers and the Eagles, that Dallas's roster is not close to that.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, I, I'm sorry, I got to disagree. I don't, I don't. When I'm watching Micah just wreck Connerly on the right and he got, he had his way with Tunsil a few times as well. And remember, he went against Penne Sewell last week. Okay. He's already facing top left tackles and he's, he's winning. How did Jerry not get more Colin, when you're watching, how, how did you not get more from Micah Parsons? Like, he looks generational. I know the playoff numbers haven't been great, but I'm just telling you, watching these first two weeks, not at 100% and wrecking offensive lines and game plans.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, it also helps that Green Bay in the first two weeks has gotten off to huge leads. Yeah. So Micah Parsons, who's mostly a C ball, attack ball kind of defender, is on that Edge. Remember, edge rushers are like closers in baseball. The lead matters. You know, the great closers coming in, trailing, don't matter. The great pass rushers, you know, Miles Garrett. A lot of teams that play Cleveland are going to be running the ball late in games because they lead the Cleveland Browns. So Micah going to a team with a lead, especially in the first couple quarters, it's a. It's a perfect spot for him.

[Jason McIntyre]

And oh, by the way, you know what else you don't do?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, those awesome closers in baseball, you don't trade them. Okay. Jerry just traded a superstar. Final story. Colin. The Denver Broncos, they did not look great in week one, despite the dub. Bo Nice Nicks was quite putrid. Three turnovers heading into week two. Sean Payton took responsibility for the poor play and knows he's got to improve his play calling.

[Colin Cowherd]

When a game ends and you evaluate it and then you say, all right, how are we with the details? You know, we're fairly young and so if we feel like the answer isn't maybe up to what we want, then we've got to look at how much. I don't know how many games I've called, but that's one of those where, you know, I can't came away from it like, man, I've got to be a lot better. I like that.

[Jason McIntyre]

I do. Just a quick note. Not great for the Colts. So Lotu Latu, the guy from ucla, I hope I got his name right. It sounds like he's not going to play due to a concussion. He graded out as the number one edge rusher in the NFL every Colts.

[Colin Cowherd]

That was two years ago. And the Colts, Colts. He was the first defensive player drafted that. Do you remember that?

[Jason McIntyre]

He's good.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, he may not have been the first defensive player. Maybe he was, but he basically fell to the Colts. And then Chris Ballard said. Yeah. That he was the number one graded edge rusher in the whole draft. We're drafting in the middle of the first round and that guy's usually out in the top seven or eight picks of a draft. So he's been really UCLA kid. Very good for them.

[Jason McIntyre]

Charver Schefter just announced Charvarius Ward, the top cornerback on the Colts, will not play this weekend. I'm telling you, I like the Broncos a lot. That's a great pick by you.

[Colin Cowherd]

J. Mac with the news.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Well, that's the news.

[Matt Jones]

And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm going to die on that hill. That Micah Parsons, short term is going to look like the Cowboys got worked in that trade. But come late April next year and Dallas has two first round picks and doesn't need a quarterback and it's a great quarterback draft. Jerry and Steven Jones can take that number eight pick or nine pick, move down and get another second and a third. Watch what happened now. Green Bay is going to win the trade the first year because Mike and Green Bay are good. This trade, wait till late April. Cowboys gonna pick up a lot of good players and that's what they need, not just a great edge rusher. Hour three and a Friday night.

[Dave Wannstedt]

Hey.

[Matt Jones]

This is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that?

[Dave Wannstedt]

Oh my.

[Matt Jones]

We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're gonna get. Listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast cast.

[Prop]

All right, West West Prop here from Hood Politics with prop Podcast. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas, you understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here mandering all over the place. Hop out, boys. Snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jam Hill cuz she going to keep it a century. The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the Hood Politics with Prop podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hey everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks on Move the six. We take you inside the game. From breaking down college prospects and NFL.

[Matt Jones]

Rookies to evaluating team building for life, philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters.

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We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

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It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sundays.

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