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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - Colin's Blazin' 5 NFL picks, thoughts on the Rams loss last night, Julian Edelman
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Julian Edelman
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Colin Cowherd
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Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh my. We think NFL coverage should be inform, entertaining and twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Hear insightful, entertaining discussions on today's important health and wellness topics on the Health discovered podcast from WebMD. Through in depth conversations with experts, Health Discovered covers everything from tips for healthier living to the latest on therapy and mental health.
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Colin Cowherd
My goal is to really destigmatize mental health treatment and looking at it from a whole health perspective. Physical health and mental health can be intertwined.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started.
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Matt Jones
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, here we go. Hour two and a Friday first hour flew by. Yankees moving on. Oh Canada, you're in trouble. J Mac Last couple of weeks been a little turbulent for your picks 4.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
And 3 last week, but the Alabama game puts me over the edge.
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Colin Cowherd
I've done some over unders this year because the audience is doing that. I almost did a prop this week on over under for a receiver. I did. I did an over under on cd. Lamb catches earlier this year. So the reason I'm People say why don't you just make picks? Because that's not what people are doing anymore. People are doing props, they're doing over unders. And so I've always said audience drives the bus. I watch the percentage of picks people make and I've got another over under. We we hit it last week. We told you last week. Take the Patriots Panthers over and I got another one this week. So you ready to go?
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Let's fire away.
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Colin Cowherd
Here's my blazing five. That's a hot one.
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Julian Edelman
Let's blaze it up.
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Colin Cowherd
Fire it up. It's Collins blazing fire Raiders and Colts. I like the Colts at home to win and cover. First of all, they lead the NFL in yards per play. That's a big stat for the wise guys. 6.5 an incredibly effic offense that scores on 66% of the drives. O line gives a run game and Daniel Jones plenty of space. In fact, in two home starts this year he's completing 71.5% of his throws. The Raiders are beat up, tied for the most giveaways in the league. 22nd ranked defense. They're now missing their left tackle Colton Miller who's their best offensive lineman. So I think right now I get a better O line significantly a better consistent run game. I think the Colts are really, really talented. I've been saying this for years. I think they're going to run away now with this division. 28, 20 Colts win. It won't feel this close. They win and cover the spread Cowboys and Jets I like the jets when the numbers plus three three of their four losses have come in one score games and when Justin Fields plays they average 27 a game and almost 400 yards. The Cowboys are beat up. 17 players on the injured list, a lot of guys in the secondary in the O line and it wasn't a good pass blocking unit when they were healthy. They've allowed 30 plus points. Has Dallas in three straight games. Probably the worst defense in the league. They're bad on third down, they're bad on the back end and they're all beat up and they've also allowed a ton of big plays and Justin Fields with those legs can create those I think the jets at home healthier win 28:27 Take the points Broncos at Eagles I'm taking the hook. Denver plus three and a half the side I'm on. Sean Payton ranked second in October win percentage in the super bowl era behind only John Madden. Both losses for Denver this year have come on game winning field goals as time expired. Best team in the league is Denver at getting to the quarterback and protecting the quarterback. Really good offensive line in Denver and their defense is tied with Seattle. It's only given up 16 a game. I think this roster is outstanding. Eagles have been outgained in all four games now you got AJ Brown drama. The offense is 30th ranked. That means the coordinator does not fit and they're not getting to the quarterback this year. They've only got five sacks in four games so this team is kind of not right now working on all cylinders. Maybe if it's a three point spread. No. But at three and a half I'm going to take Denver to win close low scoring game 24 to 23 Buccaneers at Seahawks I like Seattle here. Second best point differential in the NFL. They're great at home. Second least penalized team. They don't beat themselves. Sam Darnold is having himself a year and he's not as reckless as he used to be. I can like Baker. Baker though has nine turnover worthy plays this year, TFF said. That's tied for the most in the NFL. And Tampa? It's in too many close games. They make more mistakes. Also Tampa's got 16 players on the injured list so Seattle is healthier. They're at home, they're less penalized. I like them here. Tampa's defense is beat up. Last couple of weeks does not feel as dominant. I'm going to take The Seahawks minus the three to win and cover 28 to 23. Titans and Cardinals. I like the over 41 and a half. Neither team pressures the quarterback, so Cam Ward and Kyler are going to have time to operate. Cardinals also coming off extra rest. They're at home where there can be feisty. And I think they're going to win this game potentially by blowout. Listen, the Titans have faced four pretty good defenses. Broncos, Rams, Colts, Texans. So this is a little bit of a breather. It won't be as dominant a defense. And again, unrest. Arizona skilled people are outstanding. Defense for the Titans, not great. Don't get to the quarterback. Their defense doesn't do anything particularly well. The overs 41 and a half. It's a low number. I think we have a blowout on the horizon. Cardinals win at 31:13 Take the over in this game. And with that, Julian Edelman is now joining us live. Fox Sports analysts. And we appreciate that on a Friday. So I gotta ask you about last night. I can remember this years ago. I always thought fumbles, Julian, were random, but they were. Except for the Patriots, which a team that didn't fumble. So I'm watching that game last night. Blake Corum, Kyron Williams had five fumbles last year. And like ball security, Matt Stafford had one of the best nights he's had as a pro. And they lose at home. Much healthier team. What did New England do all those years? Because after seven or eight years of not fumbling, it's not luck. Did the Patriots just concentrate on it more?
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Julian Edelman
Yeah. You know, we used to have a motto, ball securities, job security. And Bill would literally, which I'm sure right now, North Carolina is hearing the same pitch. If you carry the ball in your hands, you're carrying the fate of the whole organization in your hand. From Nancy Myers upstairs to the marketing department to the guys in New Hampshire that are rooting for the team. That's how important the ball was. And we would start off every day of practice after our warmup, we would do a ball security drill where we'd sit there, we'd have you run down 53 yards and back with the guy in the back, you trying to take the ball out. You'd hold two balls and you have two guys hitting you. We do the stumble bum. On every third step, you would go down to the ground and try to simulate when you put your hand on the ground how vulnerable the ball is when you pull it up. And you're always trying to get three points of contact on the ball with Your forearm, the top and keeping it nudged in. So we used to talk about it and when you talk about it.
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Colin Cowherd
You.
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Julian Edelman
Subconsciously think about it. We would also have cut ups of that defense that we were playing that specific week. A 30 play cut up of if they were a ball hawking team. You know, I vividly remember the Ravens. They'd always come after the ball and you'd have Chad O' Shea come up there and have 30 plays of plays of the defense trying to get at the ball may not have been a fumble, but just to show that they have that in their weaponsry. So we were very conscious about it. I could still remember like the three times that I fumbled because it was such an important thing. Ball security is job security.
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Colin Cowherd
So, you know, I've seen Darnold and Baker and Daniel Jones and now Mac Jones be reborn. I, I was so impressed with him last night. First of all, anytime a player gets hurt and stays in the game, I mean that's something because he's hurting way more than I've ever been hurt in my life. Kendrick Bourne was his go to guy. What did you make of Mac Jones last night?
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Julian Edelman
He played great. I mean he threw for what, 342 yards, two touchdowns. He's three and oh, this is a heck of a start for the San Francisco 49ers. They, they've really had to overcome some adversity. I thought it was really going to hit him hard last night not having Nick Bosa out there because how are they going to get that, that, that closing stop at the end and they were able to find a way to win the game. Kendrick Bourne and Mac Jones, they clearly have some chemistry from New England. And look, we've seen Mac Jones play good football in New England. It was never about him playing good football, was about how he handled success and his body language. And he's obviously matured over this, these last couple years because he looks like a different player. You can see him on and off the field, how he handles himself with how he spoke at the podium after the game. He's been humbled. This game humbles you in some form or fashion and it buries some guys. And Mac Jones, you know, he's shown that he's resurging from it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Accurate, good velocity back shoulder throws. Really impressive. I'm going to get. Yeah, yeah. I want to talk Drake May. I got to tell you, last couple of weeks, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. They're not putting a ton on his plate, but he moves well. What are you hearing from Vrabel in New England on Drake May? Because it looks like they found their guy.
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Julian Edelman
Yeah, I think they, they found a guy that they can think can become the franchise guy. I mean it's still super early in the, in the evaluation process. Last week or two weeks ago they turn over the ball five times. He had a couple fumbles. He's, you know, he's taking care of the ball, throwing it, but you know he's still got to win these games. And this is a good situation for him now because after the loss, how did he come and show up the next week? They go out and blow out the Panthers. They're a great slump busting team to play when you're not playing very well and he handles them the way you should handle him. So this is going to be the ultimate test when you got to go play the big brother in the division who's been, you know, embarrassing the team for the last few years. And it'll be really interesting to see if he could carry over all the success he's had these last couple or last week. Not taking care of the football, making plays in the red area when you know he has to with his legs, not overusing his legs, not getting hit too much. Offensive lines playing well. I think that they match up very well against Buffalo. But they're going to have to play a mistake free game to beat the Buffalo Bills. You can't go in there and turn it over two times. One time they're going to have to play sound football. And if he can continue that, then you look that, look at Drake, man, you say this is our guy. But he's still super early. He's shown signs but you can still see that variables out there, you know, they each challenging him to be a leader. He wants to see more. There's, there's, there's, he's still a baby. He's still a baby. So it's been great to see some of the success he's had and there's been great situations get lose a game you should have won, come back, you know, ignite the offense and play a mistake free game. The next week against the Panthers, let's see how he rolls in against the Buffalo Bills because this is the ultimate measuring stick for him.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it doesn't happen often, but I've spent the last week defending Aaron Rodgers and my take is he is the lowest graded quarterback according to pff. And the reason being is he's not throwing the ball down the field. My take is, is that Aaron, and this happens in real time, realizes his defense has been so dominant in field position and taking the ball away that Aaron over the course of a game is like, well, what's the point if we're running it? Okay, I'm not throwing the ball down the field. He's developed a relationship with DK Metcalf, who's a great player, but kind of an emotional guy, still very young. And my take is it's nothing against PFF or a grading system, but I do think a quarterback, part of his job is over the course of a game, if you're watching your defense take apart the other team's offense, okay, put away some of the, you know, erase some of the big swings down the field. And I, I think Aaron, people think Aaron's being conservative. My take is, no, he's being smart. There's no reason to take big swings. What's your take on his season?
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Julian Edelman
I agree with you 1000%. This is what you signed up for when you, you wanted Aaron Rodgers, a guy that's going to get you in the right play. He's going to take care of the football play situationally right on third down and in the. And that's what he's been doing. He's actually moved around a lot better than he has in the last couple years, too. I mean, two years off the Achilles, he looks great and he can still throw the ball. Aaron Rodgers has forgotten more football than probably 70% of these other quarterbacks. And the fact that he can go out and manage the game the way he has shows that. I mean, it's been really impressive. I think this is one of the biggest surprises of the season.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Julian Edelman
And, you know, you look at them and I think they're only going to get better because time on task together. They've only had four weeks. You know, they didn't. They didn't have a full off season and good quarter. I remember Tom always used to say, you know, the older he got, he would always say the game gets easier because he knows the answers to the test. It's if their body can allow them to do it and his body can still allow him to do it. He understands that he doesn't need to take a big hit on a second and 10 early in the game. Just throw the ball away. He's not going to put his team in jeopardy of throwing crazy deep balls in triple coverage because he doesn't have to, because like you said, his defense will get him a couple turnovers. He's playing the game the way the Steelers kind of used to play the game with Big Ben. When Big Ben was rallying the team, you know, you'd have one or two big plays, but it was always kind of a muddy game. Play to the defense, have a good couple special teams, play the Boswell guys. Great kicker. So he's got a lot of great things going in his favor. I'm super interested to see how he does in these next four weeks.
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Colin Cowherd
So the Eagles aren't doing anything well offensively and it's obviously not personnel. So. So Sirianni is not a big scheme guy. He's more the walk around CEO, kind of a culture builder. So he's very reliant on his offensive coordinator. When he had Stichen super bowl he went to Brian Johnson kind of it didn't work that he's Kellen Moore. Okay, it works. And now he brings in a new guy. It's not as good. So it's like it could be a coordinator thing. But I, my question to you is you mostly had the same coordinator, but in, in from your experience in football, what's the difference between an okay coordinator and a great coordinator? Because Philly, based on their offensive coordinator, has been a different offense through the years.
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Julian Edelman
Well, I was fortunate enough to play with two really good offensive coordinators, Billy O' Brien and Josh McDaniels, which they had different wrinkles, but a lot of the same, similar values of how they want to call the game. I still think this is early in the season for Kevin Polito or Kevin Patullo and this offense. I mean they've only been together for four games. Last year at this point we thought the, you know, the Eagles were not going to make the playoffs. Whether they 1 and 3 or 2 and 2, they weren't playing good until that bye week came. So I still think that they're trying to figure out their offense, what they are in their identity this year. I mean, and that takes a, that takes a while. I mean they, they're still 4 0. They're collecting wins and winning ball games when they're not playing their best. So you can anticipate that they're going to figure out. All right, well, we do these things very well through the first four weeks. We don't do this very well. Let's scrap that. Let's get this, let's, let's try to kill this tendency. And I think that's the part of the season that they're in. I think it's a little too early to say that they're just broken on offense because there's only been four weeks and they have four wins. You know you have A.J. brown, who's a talented receiver who can make you plays on the outside. I'd anticipate they'd start moving him around and scheming them open because it seems like the only route he runs is a nine stop, a nine yard stop route on the outside on third and long when you know it's man coverage and a lot of these corners are now squatting on it. So you know they're taking that away. I, I think a good offense coordinator, they'll start moving AJ around trying to get him the ball early to get them happy because you got to keep them happy. I'm still kind of broken on how to like evaluate the Eagles team because last year I thought all the distractions were going to be a lot and they won the Super Bowl. It seems like they're going down that same road, but they're even better this year than they were through the first four games than last year. So just keep on watching this thing out and see how it unfolds. I think they'll continue to get better.
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Colin Cowherd
So the Chiefs offense had been, I mean, like a water pistol. They bring in Xavier Worthy who's not a number one, he's kind of a speed gadget guy and they bring him in and it looks like the best, it looks like the Tyree Kill Chiefs offensive four or five years ago and I'm like, well, Worthy's not a number one, he is kind of a gadget guy. But it does illustrate when you bring in an over the top player, it opens up stuff for even running backs. Give me your experience on that. We don't look at Worthy as a is an elite Justin Jefferson or Puka Nakua, but it's like just inserting him change the entire offense.
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Julian Edelman
This reminds me a lot of when we'd have a guy like Philip Dorset or Brandon Lafell and our offense was cooking the most when they would make one or two plays down the field because it's, it's makes the offense have to defend every blade of grass. And that's what speed does. I mean if you look at the Kansas City Chiefs, the first four weeks they were slow on offense, very slow. So then you can condense the middle of the field and the production for all the guys that eat in the middle of the field are going to be harder to get because they don't have anyone that threaten them down, threatens them downfield. And that's what he does. I mean the speed all he's got to do is make one play and get behind the defense once and it changes the whole complexity of how that defense is going to defend them. Because if they don't want to get beat deep, they rather have Kansas City go on a 14 play drive and try to make them lose in a situational battle on third down or in the red area and collect three points. So I think it's a huge addition to get Xavier worthy because the speed, it opens up the offense, they're going to get even better when they get Rasheed Rice back. You know, this is, this could be a scarier team than they were last year. They're going to have more offensive weapons this year once they start getting their guys together. So I'm excited to watch them in this next four.
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Colin Cowherd
Finally you got inducted into the Patriots hall of Fame. That's pretty cool. I mean, considering your life, where you're from. Take me there. What was it like?
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Julian Edelman
Yeah, it was, it was an absolute, unbelievable honor to be on the same stage with, you know, Coach Parcells, braves Stanley Morgan McGinnis, Coach Scar, all the guys, the former inductees. It's just absolute honor. And, you know, to, to say back in my rookie year when I was changing positions from quarterback to receiver, that I'd be in the Patriots hall of Fame, which is arguably, you know, a top, top 1 to 2, 3 organization. It's pretty surreal. For me, it was an unbelievable honor to have my family there. My little girl, my brother, my sister, my parents, because it's ultimately an award for them, for them being in my corner through the highs and the lows. You know, football is such a family sport. There's so many sacrifices you have to go through if you want to be a competitive professional athlete. And those sacrifices are saying no to, you know, your loved ones and you're really a mercenary. And to have people that were in my corner and understanding what I was trying to do in my career, you know, helped me get through it. So it was, it was an unbelievable day. Thanks to the Kraft family. They had an awesome production and, you know, it was a pretty cool, surreal moment.
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Colin Cowherd
Julian Edelman, FOX NFL kickoff Sundays on Fox. It's great seeing you, man.
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Julian Edelman
On Fox. Great seeing you two guys.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. He joins us on FS1 regular day and he's on Fox on Sundays. Plus Games with Names is his highly entertaining podcast. Blazing Five is in the books. I will watch games without a cause, without a nervous reaction. I feel very strongly about my picks. J Mac has his an hour and a half and man alive.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
That whole it's scary because I like your picks a lot. Colin. I do. That Denver pick. I'm on them like I, I, I don't know you this could be your first 50 of the season. I don't know about the total. The Titans just got shut out. Okay. The Titans are garbage. We know that they cannot move the.
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Colin Cowherd
Football, but you know, Callan's fighting for his job. This is the first mediocre defense the Titans have played. So you know, and Arizona is on extra rest and we like Arizona's offense and Connor's not healthy so they'll have to throw the ball. And I think even if the Titans get crushed, they'll throw the ball back door.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
It can Wardle keep chucking. Quick note on the Bucks. I'm waiting for the injury report, but Bucky Irving, the stud running back hasn't practiced this week so Tampa could be without Mike Evans and Bucky Irving against a top three defense in the league in Seattle. Not great for the Bucs.
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Colin Cowherd
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Julian Edelman
To listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
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Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining, and twice a week that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. Sold that.
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Julian Edelman
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we have with pretzels was working pretty well for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry.
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Colin Cowherd
I wouldn't fight him.
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Matt Jones
I would listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Frank, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Julian Edelman
I'm gonna walk away feeling very healed and feeling like, yes, I'm gonna continue my healing journey and I'm gonna get.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Some keys from you.
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Dr. J
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Colin Cowherd
We got interesting story coming up on Bill Belichick. Really interesting story. A coach calls him out and. Think you're gonna like that story. Jmac with the news.
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Julian Edelman
No, no, no. Turn on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd line news.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
We've been watching this one all week. Colin, that's the Ravens injuries. It is bleak. John Harbaugh just spoke to the media. Kyle Hamilton now added to the list of guys not practicing. I mean, goodness gracious, you see that line? Texans minus two and a half. Colin, it was Ravens minus nine and a half last week. Before week four games. Okay, Ravens are way better, but they're down a billion guys. Here's Mark Andrews talking about the mindset of the team through the injuries.
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Julian Edelman
Everybody here in this organization is we're all fighters. You know, we've been through adversity. We know what that looks like, and there's no quit in this group, and I'm excited to show the world that. The beautiful thing is that we got a lot of fighters in this group and, you know, a deep organization with.
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Matt Jones
A ton of players that are going.
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Julian Edelman
To step up and make plays. And I just got a lot of faith and trust in the guys.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
So this, I mean, the screen is almost unfathomable. You know, this is like. I don't know what 90% of these guys are. Yeah, but Pro Bowlers or that level.
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Colin Cowherd
But the Niners last night, same situation, and they beat McVeigh and Stafford.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Well, they had Mac Jones and Kyle Shanahan, and now you're dealing.
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Colin Cowherd
Timeout. I got C.J. stroud. I mean, Cooper. Say what you want about Cooper Rush, he had a winning record. When Mike McCarthy used Cooper Kush for a month. Cooper Rush had a winning record.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Yeah, that's Mike McCarthy. Really good offensive coach. I don't know if Baltimore can match that. You do have a good point, obviously, that, you know, the Niners are beat up and they still won. But, Colin, it's the defense that scares me. Roquan Smith, he calls all the plays defensively. Okay. Then your back end, Kyle Hamilton, they have no pass rush, no Van Noy. Your guy who comes on the show, their top cornerback, Wiggins is out. Humphrey, who couldn't guard me out of the slot right now, he's down. I mean, they are in rough shape. I just. On principle, I gotta go with the Texans here. Under three.
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Julian Edelman
Do you.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Do you have the stomach to.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I don't have the stomach. I just, when I watched the Niners last night, I think they're in worse shape than Baltimore. And I mean, Mac Jones, nobody thought Mac Jones is now three and oh, Mac Jones was dead and buried in this league. Like worse than Daniel Jones at least won a playoff game. Mac Jones, the Jaguars had him. He's a hometown kid. They're like not interested. So I mean, my takeaway on this is I wouldn't count the Ravens out. I watched the Niners last night. I wouldn't count them out.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
I'll just say Mac Jones, you know, got to the playoffs as a rookie with the Patriots. I know they got smoked like 477 or whatever by the Bills, but he at least got to the playoffs. I mean, Cooper Rush four game sample size. He's like a. So Lamar runs around, does all these awesome. Yeah, Cooper's a statue. He's not mobile. I think you have to totally change your offense, don't you?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, but they have some good pieces. They have good pieces.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Maybe it's a Derek Henry game. I don't know. I'm back in. Will Anderson in this one. Let's go to the next story and that's the great Chargers Commanders game out here at Sofi Sunday. I will be in the building for that one. I don't feel great about the Chargers. Colin, big news here. Terry McLaurin has not played or practiced. He will not make the trip out west for the Commanders and their offense. I know they got I think 27 on the Falcons with Mariota, but I, I just, I didn't see it totally with Washington. They're a totally different team without McLaurin stretching the field. Debo Samuel, obviously underneath is good. And for the Chargers, Joe Alt is doubtful.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm just, I'm staying away from Charger games.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Yeah, that's smart.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, again, love the coach, love the quarterback, love some of the defensive players. But if you don't, it's like Minnesota now. I'm staying away from Minnesota. Cleveland, if you're missing two and three starters in the offensive line, you know, if your run game works, it works. But it's stay away time for me on Minnesota and the Chargers. I'm just staying away from those teams.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Let me ask you about. So running quarterbacks have given the Chargers problems. Jackson Dart last week was the latest. Do you think Jaden Daniels coming off a knee injury and two weeks out is going to be running at all?
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Colin Cowherd
I, I, I don't.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
He came back. Remember last year he was injured again. We're not Going Glass Joe Burrow on him. But he was banged up last year and didn't run for a bit and it kind of took away his superpower, which is the Josh Allen Lamar. I could just make things happen. I, I, I'm rooting Chargers here. Obviously, I think the Chargers get it done. This is kind of a big swing game for them that you don't want to lose two games to Washington and the Giants back to back. Because now the Chiefs are playing the Jags and if they win that, they're creeping back in the division.
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Colin Cowherd
Here comes Denver, which played very well against Cincinnati and I think has a chance to beat Philadelphia. So this division's going to go down to the last two or three weeks.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Yeah, probably will. All right, let's go to baseball for the final story. Colin. There was some controversy in the Cubs Padres game. If you're watching on the screen, you could see that pitch was definitely low to Xander Bogarts. Clearly out of the strike zone. Bogarts loses his mind. The Padres were irate. Here's Bogarts on the terrible call after the game.
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Colin Cowherd
We talk about it now. I mean, you know, it's a ball.
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Julian Edelman
And yeah, it's just messed up the whole game, you know, I mean, can't.
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Colin Cowherd
Go back in time and talking about it now won't change anything. So it was, it was bad.
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Julian Edelman
And thank God for abs next year.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, because this is terrible.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
I know you're deep in the baseball right now. I'm just curious where you are on this system. Like, why test it in spring training and not use it in the postseason?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, the pitch clock was, I remember years ago being on a flight and I sat next to a, the Richmond minor league baseball general manager and they were using the pitch clock already in the minor leagues for a couple years. So they wanted to, you know, the pitch clock was dramatic. Traditionalists hated it. Pitchers, the union, everybody, you know, people were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So they used it in the minor league for a couple years. Well, now this system you're getting, you're going to get rid of the, you know, look, you look at that system. Is it the traditionalists, the umpires don't like it. So you want to get things right. By the way, they used it in the All Star Game. Super efficient, super quick, and it works. So they're just, I have no problem with baseball doing due diligence here. Baseball for the last three years has made multiple changes. They've often gone to them. One of the great advantages that baseball has over every other Sport, they have a minor league system and they can experiment in the minor leagues and then bring it into the show. So I, it's, it's, you know, it's funny about baseball. Baseball fans will say, well, football, he's got one game a week. We're at a big disadvantage. The advantage of baseball, it's every night. So you get so emotionally invested. Like with baseball, I'm not going to sit and watch beginning to end regular season games. I'll see highlights, I'll see three innings. But like last night I could all day I'm sitting around waiting to watch the Yankees and Red Sox. And I think the emotion, I mean, here in Chicago, it's like nobody was on the train. Everybody was home watching the Cubs, listening on radio or at Wrigley Field. So I mean, I, my take is baseball's made a lot of changes over the last three years and they've nailed all of them. So they used the minor league system. They tried it in the all star game. Next year we'll have it. And I, I, I, I'm, I'm gonna back baseball. I think they've had a hell of a three year run.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
So, so this is similar to in the NFL where you can challenge plays. And in the NBA they have this new challenge system with the Hawkeye camera. But the Padres were so ticked off. There's video of their reaction at the end of the game. Like, I mean, they were losing their minds going after the officials and the umpires. Like here, here they are leaving and look at the Padres. They kind of got to be held back from going after the umpires. And listen, man, I understand the frustration. It's the ninth inning and everyone watching with 5 million people watching can see that it was out of the strike zone. Like, don't you want them to get it right? It's just disappointing.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean there's, I think most umpires are great. I, you know, I, I was at the Illinois USC game this weekend and two different officials, three actually came up to me and thanked me. They said, hey, I appreciate you always. You have a reputation as you, you will defend officials. And my take is I didn't grow up with all these 37 replays. Think about this. In a football stadium in 2025 or in a baseball park in 2025, there's only one person who only sees the play once, the umpire or the official. They get it once in real speed. So everybody crushes these guys. These games go fast. The guys are now throwing 104. It's just harder to officiate. And then you're subject to criticism because you have, you have fumbles last night happening in the Rams Niners game at the bottom of a pile and you can see it. And so I think we all, I don't like crushing officials because first of all, you get fans worked up and they already get tons of abuse. The first baseball game I ever went to as a kid in the Kingdome, they were booing the umpires. So they already get death threats and all this stuff. And I do, I think last year, you just. Last year, Fox, during the super bowl last year, Think about this. Fox used 240 cameras. The first Super bowl had like four. We use 240 cameras.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Doesn't that apply to your work? Smarter, not harder. Like, let's just bring on the, bring on the robots, bring on the cameras. Let's get it right.
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Colin Cowherd
I would over. Listen, the NFL doesn't have full time officials. If you could just use cameras and chips, I wouldn't, I would. In football.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't think you can ever do that with pass interference. No, I mean, I, I, I'm, but I think people beat up the officials and it's like, guys, it's a hard job. That's gotten a lot harder. Yeah.
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Podcast Host (Health and Sports)
The Padres worked, what, eight months for this. They get to the ninth inning, they're down three one, runners in scoring position. You get this crap. Like, I would be pissed. I would be ticked off.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I get it. J. Mac with the news.
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Julian Edelman
Well, that's the news.
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Colin Cowherd
And thanks for stopping by the Herd line. Very, very interesting article. So Bill Belichick at Carolina has been nothing short of a disaster. Like, they're not competitive. They're getting blown out by average teams. I don't think any of us thought this. I mean, not all of us thought they were going to roll the, you know, roll through the schedule. I thought they would lose to Clemson, but I. This one coach has an explanation. Next, be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, Weekdays at noon Eastern.
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Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?
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Julian Edelman
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Might want to go back at the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah, I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well.
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Julian Edelman
It's worked for generations.
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Matt Jones
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
So Bill Belichick assembled a very poor roster. We said that after the first game against tcu, there's not many good players. So a, a coach, a Group 5 head coach said this. They miscalculated the way they were taking guys in the portal and paying dudes. It made me wonder, did they actually understand the landscape they were in? Did they understand they're in the acc, not the Conference USA or Sunbelt? Like, we got beat by North Carolina on a bunch of kids. And I like, why the blank is North Carolina beating us on kids? They're recruiting the guys we recruit. And this is a coach in a smaller program in a smaller conference. So Belichick, 73 years old, basically. And I have a theory on this. Number one, to get the best guys in the portal because Carolina had some money, to get the best guys in the portal, you got to kiss a lot of butt and you got to work much harder. And Bill wasn't up for it. Secondly, a little the Charlie Weiss thing, when Bill comes in thinking maybe, you know, schematically I'm dealing with a bunch of ACC football coaches, we're going to outsmart these guys and, you know, we're going to build a culture. We don't need to have five star guys. I don't know if that's true, but I will tell you one thing that is unequivocally true. And one of the concerns I had when Belichick and Mike Lombardi took it over, I'm like, they're pros. They're pro guys. Charlie Weiss is a pro guy. He's not going to understand. He's not going to have that feel. He's not a butt kisser. It's Kind of that New Jersey rough personality. And that's fine, but that's a pro personality. You have to kiss butt. You know, Jimmy Johnson, Jim Harbaugh are 1. Those 1 and 2. Pete Carroll, it worked both ways. Pete's got a big personality, Jimmy's got a big personality. And Harbaugh, you know, can really turn it on and off. Personality wise. Bill doesn't. And I've said this for years. There's only. I remember telling Rex Ryan this one time, I said, dude, you'd be a great college coach. You did well in the NFL. You could do college because Rex can talk the talk. Rex is very verbal, big emotion, good looking guy, big smile, full of laughs. Rex Ryan would have worked in college, but he wasn't as good as some of the other NFL coaches. And Jon Gruden, to me, I would hire him in a heartbeat. In college football, Gruden, again, personality can turn on the charm. He could recruit. So Rex Ryan and Gruden were the two guys, to me, that would always work. Mike Tomlin, I think is kind of a dude. He'd walk in, you know, the mom would be impressed. The dad would think he's cool to play. I think Mike Tomlin can work at the college level as well. But my theory is not all these guys. Bill Parcells in college, he'd have no time for nonsense. Bill Parcells would spend five minutes with one booster and be like, get me out of here. Belichick's not built for college football. He never had any interest in it. I love Urban Meyer. Urban's not a pro coach. I remember talking to Urban about this, and Urban said, I. I spent my Sundays watching film because I didn't watch NFL football. And it's like, there is a sensibility in the NFL. Saban perfect for college. Dominating personality, that's not going to work in pro football. So Bill was always a little cranky and difficult and, you know, distracted, it feels like. And I, I think a lot of this is. I mean, you watch them against TCU and you're like, they don't have enough players. They don't have any speed here. Average quarterback, no big speed, no great pass rushers. And I think some of it is to get those kind of guys, you, you got to turn on the charm. And Bill doesn't have any interest in that. That's just not who he is. I'm not blaming him. Great, legendary co. I don't think Andy Reid would love college football. Andy wants to sit down and design plays all day long. Sean Payton could Put on a. You know, he could. He could recruit for a little while, but he wants to sit in. In a room, get the glasses, look at the play sheet design, plays. He's brilliant at it. Peyton would be a pretty good recruiter. But, you know, Kyle Shanahan, to me, is not a college guy. Kyle Shannon and not his dad. Those are pro guys. They'll just. They're pro guys. Not all TV guys can do radio. Not all radio guys can do tv. It's communication, right? It's storytelling, right? Not really. So college and pro is different. I don't think Bill works. I will say this. For about a year, the Mac Jones Belichick thing worked. I thought it was very interesting. Julian Edelman talking about, he's been humbled and he's grown up. The knock on him was. I remember hearing this about Mac Jones is that he was called McEnroe Jones down in Alabama. He had a big temper. You know, he was a dominant high school player, dominant college player, and he didn't have a lot of time for nonsense. And. And he went to the NFL and he got humbled fast. And I heard, remember he did a couple. He'd, like, kick guys. He had that weird sort of Grayson Allen thing from Duke. And I heard there was a little uprising in the Patriots locker room. And a couple of the guys went to him and said, hey, stop that stuff, that cheap shot stuff, you know, who pays for that? Us lineman guys will do that to us. And so, I mean, go back to the kicking stuff. It was like, brutal. It's like what you do when you're eight. But yet last night, after the win in which he performed very well, he was very humble at the mic. They brought me here to play as.
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Colin Cowherd
And right now he's dealing with something.
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Colin Cowherd
That'S what it's all about.
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Julian Edelman
Like, I've been in his position, I've been a starter. And you want your backup to go.
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Colin Cowherd
I will say there are times that an athlete wears a suit that I know will not look good on me, and that is one of the instances. I'm not even sure it looked good on him. But anyway, so that. That good for him. And I will say Sean McVeigh had the bite of the day. If you were watching that game in overtime last night, and if you're on the east coast, you were probably watching the Yankees in the postgame. So there was a fourth and one for the Rams in overtime. And Sean McVeigh went. He went. He went really, really vanilla on the play. And I hate banging on coaches for play calling. I absolutely hate it. But, I mean, McVay felt so bad. I don't know what to say. I mean, it's hard to criticize a guy when he says this after the call. It's a bad call. It's a bad call by me. It was a poor decision by me right there. In hindsight, I wish I would have. But no, we came in here to try to win the football game. It didn't go down force. Gary. That was. That wasn't even a thought. But the play selection was very poor. I'm sick right now because I put our players in a spot. Yeah. And he's a guy that takes losses hard. For the record, if you look at the Niner schedule the next nine weeks, Rams and Bucks may be the only playoff teams they play. That was a huge win for San Francisco last night. And I thought they had a couple of calls go against them. I thought there were a couple of bad calls in that game that went in the favor of the Rams. So, I mean, you start looking at that schedule, I mean, it was not daunting to begin with, but outside of the Rams and the Bucks in the next nine weeks, that is a. That was a monster win for San Francisco. Monster Rams. Schedule's much tougher. Our number three on a Friday. Man, these baseball games are crazy. During the Major League Baseball postseason, Strauss made history as the first brand ever on the helmets. Family owned since 1948, Strauss makes workwear built to perform smart pocket design, real comfort and durability you can trust. From grit to glory. Gear up today@strauss.com that's s t r a u s s.com what do you.
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