THE HERD - Hour 2 - College football playoff rankings, Lane Kiffin's decision to leave for LSU, Joe Klatt

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 2 (Dec 3, 2025)

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This episode dives into the chaos around the latest college football playoff rankings, debates the fairness and design of the selection process, speculates on coaching changes (notably Lane Kiffin’s move to LSU), examines Penn State’s struggles post-coach-firing, and features a segment on evaluating the current crop of young NFL quarterbacks. The tone is lively, analytical, and characteristically opinionated.

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1. College Football Playoff Rankings: Confusion and Controversy

A Flawed System

• Opening Frustration: The hosts, especially Rob Parker, vent about the “wild” and confusing nature of the college football playoff selection process, even with the 12-team format.
  • “We didn't like when the computers did it. We didn't like when the media selected it. We don't like the rando arbitrary committee doing it.” (Rob Parker, 03:11)
• Quality Wins vs. Bad Losses: Rob argues for emphasizing quality wins over penalizing teams for “bad losses.”
  • “I don't think bad losses should be the be all, end all. … You're going to have a stinker.” (Rob Parker, 04:19)
• Who Deserves In? Major debate over whether Notre Dame, Miami, or Texas deserve playoff nods. Texas, in particular, is seen as getting snubbed despite several statement wins (beating Oklahoma, Vandy, scheduling Ohio State).

Subjective Criteria and Lack of Transparency

• Kelvin Washington highlights the lack of a clear, ranked criteria for selection:
  • “It's subjective and there's no way that you can rank the criteria or at least they don't rank the criteria and tell us which one is going to take precedent.” (Kelvin Washington, 05:44)
  • The current process is called “arbitrary” and “frustrating.”
• The Head-to-Head Debate: Kelvin notes that in every other sport, “head-to-head” is the default tiebreaker. He details scenarios where Notre Dame could still miss out, depending on BYU’s Big 12 championship result.

Notable Quote

• “I would make the argument that in college football for the last 10 and 20 years, we have done a really poor job of trying to protect and value things that are obviously going to die, like amateurism and bowl games.” (Kelvin Washington, 10:29)

Proposed Fixes

• Play-In Weekend: Kelvin’s big idea is a "play-in weekend" for the playoff with automatic berths per conference, directly settling it on the field.
  • “I'd rather have a play in weekend ... more access and control at the bottom.” (Kelvin Washington, 12:59)
• Clarity of Rules: Rob advocates for a clear, ranked value system: “If I was commissioner, I would say head to head one, quality wins two.” (Rob Parker, 12:42)

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2. Coaching Carousel: Lane Kiffin to LSU & Penn State Drama

Lane Kiffin’s Departure from Ole Miss

• Mixed Feelings: Rob and Kelvin agree Ole Miss “signed up” for this outcome with Kiffin, a “rock star” coach with a track record of messy exits.
  • “Ole Miss would have signed up for where they're at today five years ago. ... he’s gonna burn you on the way out.” (Rob Parker, 15:22)
• Impact on Players: Kelvin takes it from the players’ angle:
  • “If you're one of those players ... and they're talking about team first …Well, he just left that team. And...we feel pretty, pretty betrayed by Lane Kiffin and rightly so.” (Kelvin Washington, 15:58)
• LSU Opportunity: Heading to a “crazier” environment, Kiffin opts for more resources but possibly less stability.
  • "At lsu, it's like, listen, you know, you can go with a six to prom and that six is going to be committed to you. You take the nine. She might be crazy." (Kelvin Washington, 17:44)

Penn State Coaching Search

• Chaos Post-Franklin: After firing James Franklin, Penn State struggles with replacement—the search is labeled as “mismanaged.”
  • “I'm surprised they haven't called me. ... Montana is going to have a better recruiting class today than Penn State.” (Rob Parker, 18:20)
• Candidates & National Signing Day: Kelvin reports Penn State likely targeted a coach "still playing this week" (possibly Kaylin DeBoer at Alabama), leading to a delay even on signing day.
  • “It speaks to the possible mismanagement ... or at least it's going off the rails and they don't have a coach.” (Kelvin Washington, 19:10)
• Humorous Closer:
  • "That's clap. That's pretty good closer right there. You just went Mariano Rivera on us." (Rob Parker, 20:35)

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3. NFL Quarterbacks: Judge Cowherd Presides (40:32–51:02)

“Court of Opinion” Segment

Colin hosts a mock-court discussion, ruling on whether various young QBs are true franchise quarterbacks.

Franchise QBs (Judge Cowherd’s Verdicts)

• Caleb Williams: YES
  • “One of the best passers on third down … fourth highest touchdown interception ratio 37 TDs to 11 picks since he entered the league.” (41:13)
• Jaden Daniels: YES
  • “Highest completion percentage by any rookie quarterback ever. … highly mobile, highly accurate, highly coachable.” (41:40)
• Drake Maye: YES
  • “Arguably the best quarterback out of the 2024 draft class. ... Greatness in a league of mediocrity is easy to spot.” (42:06)
• Bo Nix: YES
  • “He leads the NFL the last two years with eight game winning drives. … He can struggle early. He and Caleb both can. They rise late. That’s a franchise quarterback.” (43:45)

Uncertain or NO

• Michael Penix: NO
  • “Third major knee surgery ... no, not a franchise quarterback.” (42:36)
• JJ McCarthy: NO
  • “His completion percentage is rough. … No evidence to support he's a franchise quarterback.” (43:12)
• Spencer Rattler: NO
  • “12 touchdowns, 15 giveaways and a passer rating under 80... He reminds me of Drew Locke.” (44:17)

Discussion Nuances

• Salary Brackets & Value: Colin and Rob Parker debate what constitutes a true “franchise” QB, especially in the era of giant contracts. They suggest some QBs (Bryce Young, Daniel Jones) qualify at the $33–35M range, not the $45–54M superstar tier.
  • “I think there's three kind of quarterbacks in the NFL: franchise, bridge and backup.” (Rob Parker, 49:07)
• Draft Realities: Quarterback is the hardest position; sometimes franchise guys emerge beyond round one: “It's not easy. Quarterback is leadership and toughness and guile and, and pre snap.” (Colin Cowherd, 49:20)

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4. College Football Coaching Fallout: “Weird” Transitions & Player Impact (32:19–33:39)

• Charlie Weiss Jr. Dilemma: He leaves with Lane Kiffin to LSU but will call plays for Ole Miss in the playoff—creating loyalty and trust issues for players.
  • “All I know is if I'm a top four seed, I want to see Ole Miss in, in my first round game. I think that's an easy dub for whoever Ole Miss …” (Colin Cowherd, 33:17)
• Player Backlash: Reports of locker room disappointment and social media criticism toward Kiffin and those leaving.

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5. NFL News & Analysis: Cowboys, Packers, and Eagles Segments (27:05–36:16)

Dallas Cowboys Roster Improvements

• Jerry Jones Praised: Rob Parker recounts how the Cowboys’ recent trades and picks improved their pass rush and run defense, even after moving on from stars like Micah Parsons.

Packers vs. Bears Preview

• Spread Discussion: Rob calls it a “close game,” but Colin notes he bet the Packers at –6.5.

Eagles’ Struggles & Coaching Importance

• Super Bowl Hangover: Nick Sirianni acknowledges the need for introspection; Colin and Rob argue coaching coordinators matter as much as head coaches, pointing to the Eagles' and 49ers' changing fortunes due to staff movement.

Notable Quote

• “Great coordinators change outcomes. That’s why I said Robert Sala has to be the assistant of the year in the NFL.” (Rob Parker, 35:22)

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6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the playoff committee: “I think that's the arbitrary nature of it is what's frustrating.” – Kelvin Washington (05:44)
• On Lane Kiffin: “He's got the five messiest exits in maybe football history.” – Kelvin Washington (15:58)
• On head coaching rumors: “That's clap. That's pretty good closer right there. You just went Mariano Rivera on us.” – Rob Parker (20:35)
• On QB labels: “‘Franchise, bridge, and backup.’ I think Bryce Young is a guy that you get a favorable deal on and then you start drafting quarterbacks in the third and fourth round...” – Rob Parker (49:07)

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7. Timestamps for Important Segments

• Playoff Rankings Debate: 03:09–12:59
• Proposed Playoff Fixes: 12:08–12:59
• Lane Kiffin’s Exit & Coaching Drama: 15:12–20:35
• Penn State’s Coaching Search: 18:20–20:35
• NFL “Court” on QBs: 40:32–51:02
• Charlie Weiss Jr./Ole Miss Fallout: 32:19–33:39
• Cowboys/Packers/Eagles Analysis: 27:05–36:16

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8. Original-Tone Highlights & Final Thoughts

The episode blends irreverent humor (“don’t marry the rock star and be shocked when he goes on tour”) with sharp analysis and listener-friendly explanations of complex sports topics. There's frustration at college football’s systemic problems and a recurring call for putting more results “on the field” and less in the hands of committees.

Judge Cowherd’s QB evaluations deliver a mix of stats and gut-feel scouting, keeping things accessible for casual and hardcore fans alike.

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Transcript

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What a wild, wild conclusion. I mean, at least now we have a college football playoff of 12 teams. We didn't like when the computers did it. We didn't like when the media selected it. We don't like the rando arbitrary committee doing it. But at least a playoff will be great when we figure out who's in and who's out. Right now Notre Dame's in Miami and Texas are out.

Just head to head matter in Oklahoma got thumped by Texas. A and M got thumped by Texas. Vandy got thumped by Texas. Texas was willing to play Ohio State and Columbus lost close. They didn't get in.

And I mean, Texas plays in the SEC where, you know, I always hear about bad losses. Miami lost to SMU. SMU beat Clemson and Miami, they're not that bad. They're 8 and 4 and they went to the playoff last year. The game was in Dallas. They're not that bad. So the Louisville loss stunk and for Texas, I guess the Florida loss is bad. But man, Texas had a lot of quality wins. I just.

You know, I, I'm somebody that I look at your schedule and give me quality wins. I am. I don't think bad losses should be the be all, end all. The Rams just lost to the Panthers. I just think we've asked college kids now to play more and more and more and more games. You're going to have a stinker. Rams defense last week stunk and we know they're great in Miami. You know, Texas went and played an SEC team in Gainesville and got beat. Remember last year Lane Kiffin took a good team to Gainesville and lost. Losing in Gainesville. To me, it's an SEC team. It's 90,000 people. It's the loudest stadium collegiately I've ever been to. With that Joel Clad who called Ohio State Michigan, he'll be calling Ohio State Indiana, he's getting some good games. So.

I guess this is. We both love the sport. I guess, I guess where I feel bad. So Miami's going. We beat them head to head and Texas is going. We beat three top 10 teams. And the committee's like, well, Notre Dame didn't really have a quality win, but they had no bad losses. I don't know if that's how we should measure greatness. I like Notre Dame as a program. Shouldn't. Doesn't Miami have a real case here?

[Kelvin Washington]

Of course, of course. Of course Miami has a real case and Texas has a real case. And there's so many ways to go. Let me, let me just start with like the problem is obviously the format. Obviously. Right. Because we're trying to have this selection based playoff and it doesn't matter if you have computers do it or people do it. Like it's subjective and there's no way that you can rank the criteria or at least they don't rank the criteria and tell us which one is going to take precedent over the other. So there's all different types of criteria. You can take a head to head criteria or resume criteria, the eye test criteria. Did you get to a conference championship game? What did your schedule look like in particular in the non conference? And yet we don't rank those. So what value does any of those criteria actually have towards the ranking? Well, we don't know and I think that's the arbitrary nature of it is what's frustrating. I've argued for a long time that we need to define the path. You see, like for instance, in every other sport, always and forever. What do we do to break tiebreakers? Colin? The first one is head to head. Always, always. And so here's the thing with Notre Dame. I don't think they're just in. I know that they're not going to play another game and Miami is not going to play another game. But, but they have this buffer that is byu. And so if you actually play this out, I think Notre Dame is actually more likely to miss the playoff then make the playoff. And here's why. If BYU wins in the Big 12 championship game and beats Texas Tech, they get an automatic spot. And there's almost no scenario where Tech falls behind Notre Dame. Therefore Notre Dame would fall out. Now if BYU loses to Texas Tech, maybe similar fashion to the way they lost already this year when they played tech 29 to 7, it was a dominant victory for the Red Raiders. Wouldn't BYU almost assuredly just fall maybe one spot or two spots in the rankings behind Miami, which then would promote a, a direct comparison with what we're talking about. Two teams right next to each other, same record with a head to head result. So I think Notre Dame's actually in a really precarious spot right now.

[Rob Parker]

I, listen, I, you know me, I like big brands. I want Notre Dame and Miami and Texas all in. Right. Like I, that's what I'm rooting For.

[Kelvin Washington]

I think Texas is cooked. I don't, I don't see a way they get in.

[Rob Parker]

I know, but it's in unbelievable beat. Oklahoma like a drum. Dominated. Vandy dominated. And they lose to Ohio State by seven. From that point forward, Ohio State won by an average of 31. That the only team that played a super close game in Columbus. Four new offensive linemen and you're like best college defense probably either one of us has seen in half a decade. And they lose by a touchdown and Texas didn't play well and you're like, I don't know, like listen, they don't match up with Georgia. They just don't. That happens. They don't match up with Georgia. Let me ask you this.

Indiana scheduled a week at a conference schedule right now. They'd have a buy. What if Indiana gets some smoked? What if it is 38, 17 and it looks like the Indiana Notre Dame game last year? What if Indiana gets smoked? What happens to them?

[Kelvin Washington]

I don't think they fall out of buy territory. And the reason is that Oregon will act as a buffer. Remember they beat Oregon. So like Oregon is their floor. So even if they fall down with, with what they've done this year, they're probably still going to remain in the top four. Even. Even if they were to get. Now I don't think they'll get smoked. I think that's a very good and complete team. Now did they play a soft non conference? There's no doubt that they played a soft non conference, but I don't see a situation where either the loser of the Big ten championship game, Ohio State or Indiana falls out of a position where they're getting a buy in the first round of the college football playoff.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, what if. What if Bama went to Georgia? It was one of the. I mean honestly, one of the most perfect game plans I've ever seen. They beat Georgia in Athens. They were flawless. It was one of the best halves of football played by anybody this year. What if Georgia beats them? And by the way, Georgia and Kirby Smart don't beat Alabama. Much like that. That you talk about a matchup. Georgia doesn't beat Bama. Texas doesn't beat Georgia. What if Bama gets smacked? Can they get knocked out?

[Kelvin Washington]

I think possibly. Although the history and the precedent from the committee last year was that they weren't going to penalize teams for losing conference championship games. And we saw that when SMU lost to Clemson, you remember, and Clemson got the automatic automatic birth. But then SMU stayed in the college football playoff they went to Penn State and lost in the first round. So precedent would tell you that this committee is going to value conference championship games and not, not knock a team for losing that. Now here's, let me just say this sake of argument, let's just pull ourselves out 30,000 foot view for a moment because that would suggest that this committee is trying to protect or value conference championship games. And I would make the argument that in college football for the last 10 and 20 years, we have done a really poor job of trying to protect and value things that are obviously going to die, like amateurism and bowl games. So for example, these are things that obviously don't fit in what's going to happen in the future of our sport. And the fact that they didn't move off of amateurism early led to the chaos that we have now with the transfer portal and the revenue share. The fact that they won't move off of bowl games gives us a regular season and then playoff that leaks into the NFL playoffs that leaks into the transfer portal late into January. So we're not nimble in college football. And if you protect a conference championship game, the writing is on the wall, Colin. These games are being devalued. There's no reason to protect those. So if Bama were to get smacked, I could see a situation where depending on what happens in the BYU Texas Tech game, they get in, maybe Miami gets in and maybe, you know, they take another look at Texas in that regard. But I do think that we need to start putting the right value in the right spots. I think that we need to start talking about defining the path to the playoff rather than having a selection based committee playoff. These things would be better for the sport not to get too long winded. But just for an example, just for an example, imagine this weekend if we had a play in weekend and this didn't live in a committee room but it lived on the field where we had. Based on where you finished in your conference, automatic bursts per Conference, maybe four each for the big guys, SEC and.

Big Ten, maybe two each for the ACC and the Big 12. And then you would get matchups this weekend, Colin, like Texas at Texas A and M, winner goes to the playoff. Byu, Utah, winner goes to the playoff. Miami, Duke, winner goes to the playoff. So we would be able to say, hey listen, rather than just sitting there and watching your TV and seeing if a committee puts you in, you control your own fate. Go play a football game for 60 minutes and if you can win that game, then you're going to go on into a 14 team playoff. That's what I would do. Yeah, but no one's making me commissioner yet. If you've got that power, please do so.

[Rob Parker]

If I was commissioner, I would say head to head one quality wins two. That to me should be. It would. Clarity would be pretty easy. I mean Texas would be in. Notre Dame would not be like head to head matters quality because I want better scheduling.

[Kelvin Washington]

I would take it away from at large. I just don't, I don't like this idea that we're just like selecting teams now. Even if you define the criteria and value them as you're saying in a particular order, that would help. That would certainly help. I would just rather put it on the field. I would rather have a play in weekend. A play in weekend with 14 teams would create more value at the top because there would only be two buys. So you're really creating a top end incentive for those teams to play hard late into the season. The best teams in the country and more access and control at the bottom. You know, I, that's what I would do.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, I got three things. I'm going to get to Penn State Lane Kiffin. Before I do that, I can see Ryan Day wants to win every game but the conference championship for like Ohio State means nothing. I don't want guys hurt. My takeaway is. And I also, I'm going to have to play somebody I don't want them seeing. You know, I want them to have to go back eight games to find some of my tricks. I could see Ohio State saying, you know, any player that's kind of banged up, you're not playing and kind of doing a vanilla playbook and then they lose. Because if I'm. The bottom line is if I beat Michigan and win a Natty, nobody gives a rip about Indiana. You beat Michigan, you win a Natty. So I guess my question is, is it possible we're going to get a really flat uninspired Buckeye team this weekend?

[Kelvin Washington]

I don't because they've been business like the entire year. It didn't matter if we saw them at, you know, I saw them play Rutgers, I saw them play Illinois and, and they were the same every single week. And I, and I feel like we're going to get the same business like approach from the Buckeyes. Let's also keep in mind this is a program. None of these players have won a Big Ten title. This is not like old hat for Ohio State. We might feel like that because we've seen Ohio State of recent vintage but this program hasn't won a Big Ten title since 2020. They're going to want to go out there and put their best foot forward. There's also more on the line when you think about the Heisman Trophy. Julian Saenz is going to have to play well in order to win the game, in order to win the Heisman Trophy. So I still think that there's a lot on the line. The number one seed overall in the playoff is going to be beneficial. You'd rather play the number four team in the country in the. In the semifinal than the number two or three team in the semifinal. So all of those things, I think, will be incentive for the. For them to go put their best foot forward.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, let's get to Kiffin. Listen, I. I've said don't marry the rock star and be shocked when he says, I gotta go on tour for a couple of months.

[Kelvin Washington]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Ole Miss would have signed up for where they're at today five years ago.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sure.

[Rob Parker]

Number one offense in the country, 11 wins, but he's gonna burn you on the way out. Ole Miss would have signed up for that. So I don't have. When you go into business or you go into a relationship, as long as you get full disclosure. And there was on Lane Kiffin, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Ole Miss. They benefited just like everybody that hires Lane does. Your offense gets better. You get talked about. There's controversy and social media. I mean, I guess the whole thing doesn't bother me as much as it probably bothers everybody else. Does it bother you?

[Kelvin Washington]

I just. Everything that you said is correct. Nothing you said is wrong there. Yeah. I mean, he's got the five messiest exits and maybe football history. I mean, think about it. Al Davis with the overhead projector. You got the Tennessee debacle. He was left on the tarmac at usc. Saban told him to kick rocks before the national championship game. And now here at Ole Miss. So everything that you're saying. Yes. If you're Ole Miss again, Ole Miss, the. The program, the administration, I'm sure that this is kind of like, yeah, you know, maybe this was always in the cards or. Or certainly we could expect this. But I think of it not from the Ole Miss perspective, and I think of it from the players perspective. If you're one of those players and you're sitting in the meetings in August and early September and they're talking about team first and committing and let's go achieve something, and here are our team goals. Well, he Just left that team. And they are going to field spurred. And trust me, like you're seeing articles out there where some of these players are, are pushing back on the, on this narrative that Lane, you know, wanted to coach and they wanted him to coach. And they're like, no, you know, we feel pretty, pretty betrayed by Lane Kiffin and rightly so. Listen, I don't begrudge this man his movement and he's going to go. And he thought LSU was going to be a better opportunity for he and his family, you know, more power to him. But that doesn't mean that there are not consequences to those decisions. And he did leave a team high and dry, and he left those players high and dry. That's going to hurt his credibility moving forward. And he also went to a place that, let's face it, is not as sound foundationally. They might have more resources, but it's certainly a lot more crazy. At lsu, it's like, listen, you know, you can go with a six to prom and that six is going to be committed to you. You take the nine.

She might be crazy.

[Rob Parker]

All right. That's a good way to put it. I mean, I. Okay, you. And I did not like Penn State. They did not like you, and I didn't like Penn State. Abruptly canning James Franklin. Well, now what's happened is the power brokers who run this sport, the agents are freezing out Penn State and they have like the recruiting class. I'm surprised they haven't called me. They're not recruiting anybody. Like, like they're. Montana is going to have a better recruiting class today than Penn State. So I.

What do you think happens? It's a good job.

[Kelvin Washington]

It's a good job. But it, unfortunately for them, and I know the people involved, it has been mismanaged. I think that they had a plan when they fired James Franklin, and I think that that plan involved Kurt Signetti. And Kurt Signetti was like, nope, that ain't. That ain't my bag. And once that happened, then they were behind the eight ball and now they've gotten passed up by these other programs. So I, I think. Here's the thing. I think that Penn State went after Kalani Sataki pretty hard and Crumble Cookie came in and said, our cookies are delicious and they're making a lot of money. And. No. And if you don't know that the Crumble Cookie guy is a BYU guy and he came in with a lot of. It's a big meme and it's fantastic. So now I think that there's probably a couple of guys that they're still in talks with and trying to get. I think Brian Daboll is still in play. I think Jeff Braum at Louisville is still in play. And the fact that it hasn't happened yet and today, by the way, is national signing day, early signing day. Players can. Recruits can sign to your school today. And Penn State doesn't have a coach, which is wild. It speaks to the possible mismanagement of what's gone on or at least it's going off the rails and they don't have a coach, which also leads me to believe that something is up their sleeve. Colin, I think that they are targeting a coach that is still playing this week and I if you just go process of elimination. This is not information that I've heard from anybody. If process of elimination, you think, well, Kirby's not going anywhere. Sataki told him no. Joey McGuire is not going anywhere. Both guys in the American at Tulane, in North Texas, Summerall and. And Eric Morris, they already have a place to go. Is it Tony Elliott at Virginia? Possibly. Manny Diaz at. At Duke, possibly. Or is it Kaylin DeBoer at Alabama? I think that they might be going after a guy that is coaching this week, which is why it's bleeding into the signing day.

[Rob Parker]

Kaylin DeBoer, by the way, is a Midwest guy, isn't he?

[Kelvin Washington]

Got his start in South Dakota.

[Rob Parker]

How about that?

[Kelvin Washington]

Again, I, I haven't. No one's told me that officially, but I. If you just play that out like why do you not have a coach yet? He's got to still be coaching.

[Rob Parker]

That's clap. That's pretty good closer right there. You just went Mariano Rivera on us. You. That was a pretty good close right.

[Kelvin Washington]

Cut her in on the hands. Just.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, well, I'm going to enjoy the games. You have Indiana, Ohio State. I like Ohio State.

Man. You're getting good games. You love it. Did you get a job promotion here at the company? They're giving you good games? No, no. They.

[Kelvin Washington]

They said that I've been, I've been doing a good job on these hits. So this is. It's reward for doing a good job here.

[Rob Parker]

Joe Clack, good seeing you.

[Kelvin Washington]

See you, brother.

[Rob Parker]

That's interesting.

I think Kaylin DeBoer is unbelievable. I really do. I think Bamas, you know, everybody's banging on. He's not coaching the Sabin Bama teams, you understand? Saban left, Bama.

Right. You think it's because of age, but you watch Saban on tv. Still funny as ever. Energy's unbelievable. Why'd Saban get out? I said this about four years ago. He played Sark when the nil started about four years ago, whatever it was, he played Sark. And Sark had all that Texas money. And Saban's no dummy. Remember, he started complaining publicly. He looked at A and M and the Longhorns. That's Texas money. I mean, Texas is the Bentley. Alabama money is a glove compartment in a Kia. You're talking Texas money. Saban played Texas and went, I got no interest. Going toe to toe with the Aggies and the Longhorns. Bags of money. So Saban's like, exit stage right. Kaylin DeBoer takes it. Everybody's like, well, he's not as good. He doesn't have the players. When you watch Bama play Georgia this weekend, Georgia's got more good players. If Ohio State played Bama, Ohio State's got much better players. I, I think Texas has better players, so. And I think Greg Byrne, the ad, hired the right guy. But you know, it's really unfair to say, well, I mean, this guy, this guy's an unbelievable coach.

I, I, I just root for great coaching. That guy's a great coach. One more herd.

[Colin Cowherd]

The herd streams 24 hours a day.

[Rob Parker]

Seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search her to listen live or on.

[Colin Cowherd]

Demand whenever you'd like.

[Rob Parker]

Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from 7 to 10pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's right, you can now watch the.

[Rob Parker]

Odd Couple Live on YouTube every day. All you gotta do, search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube again.

[Kelvin Washington]

YouTube.

[Rob Parker]

Just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out on YouTube and subscribe.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Rob Parker]

Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video this week the Dallas Cowboys take on the Detroit Lions in a new rivalry with lots of heat. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Cowboys and the lions Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. The holiday season can be exhausting with all the parties and the end of year celebrations, but don't forget to take care of yourself by stocking up on your favorite nutritional products. Now through December 30th. Shop in store and online and save on items like Cliff Snack Bars, Luna Bars, Boost Nutritional Energy Drinks, Premier Protein Shakes, Z Bar Variety Packs, Open Nature Powder and Body Fortress Protein powder offers end December 30th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Kelvin Washington]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

For the ones who get it done.

[Rob Parker]

Hey what's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. If you love breaking down football from every angle, you're in the right place. Every week on Move the six, Bucky Brooks and I dive deep into the game from the X's and O's to the front office moves shaping the league. We kick things off with Brian Bodinger breaking down what really went down on Sunday. It is as good a timing rhythm offense is there is in the league right now. Then Rhett Lewis joins us for our rookie draft and coordinator of the week where we highlight the rising stars and the masterminds calling the shots. DJ talked me into a Ronda Gadsden Jr. He had a monster game. Monster. A monster game. And you hear from the voices who actually build the game GMs, coaches and players who give you insight you won't get anywhere else.

[Kelvin Washington]

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[Rob Parker]

That's the right combination. So whether you're studying tape or just love great football talk, subscribe to Move the sticks on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm telling you that that Cowboys Lions game Jerry Jones has had a great last nine months from April 24th when the driver draft started until today. Tyler Booker.

12Th pick first round looks like a tremendous interior offensive lineman. The Micah trade. The Quinn and Williams move acquisition in the Micah trade at Kenny Clark now demarvi and over shown his healthy. You know Dallas right now is number two in the NFL and pressures they're better without Micah.

For everybody. That said. Oh Dallas crazy. They rush the passer better than they did previously. Why? Because their run defense is better. Forcing teams to have to throw on third and five plus yards. Obvious passing down so you can pin your ears back. Micah was not good against the run. He's bad against the run. So I love Micah to Green Bay but I loved Micah and Dallas getting leverage and flexibility moving on. So you say what you want. Jerry Jones had a great nine months. Still got two first round picks. The Quinn and Williams move has transformed the defense. Getting Kenny Clark. Yeah when Micah was there and this is before they paid him the big money. The run defense was atrocious. The overall defense was bad. You could have issues like you can the the Rams won a Super bowl without good safeties. You you can have issues on the back end of your defense because remember December and January football. Miami Dolphins had Waddle and Tyreek Hill. How they doing December and January? What you can't have is a bad run game. Dallas last couple years with Micah was bad against the run and so by getting Quinn and Williams and Kenny Clark they're great against the run. Forcing teams to now have to pass on Dallas's terms, not their terms. So it's okay. Not every divorce is one sided. Sometimes both people do really really well. Green Bay upgraded. Dallas upgraded much more flexibility and we haven't even seen their two picks yet. I keep thinking they're going to get an edge rusher. They're getting quarterback under pressure. Now.

Just draft a bunch of Ohio State guys that, that that's my remedy to fix your defense. Go take a couple of puck eyes. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no no. Turn on the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is the Herd line news.

[Rob Parker]

All right.

[Colin Cowherd]

We're going to your Bears. They're in Your backyard. You love you some Ben Johnson. You remember when he got the Bear's head coaching job, Colin, he was talking a little bit of smack. Said he kind of enjoyed beating Matt LaFleur twice a year while running the offense for the Lions. Well, Ben Johnson. Hey, don't let your mouth write checks that your butt can't cash. Colin. Big one this weekend. Ben Johnson's Bears against LaFleur's defense. Here's Johnson talking about the matchup.

[Rob Parker]

They're all over the field and so we got a tall task here at hand. And then when you combine it with the scheme, I think Halfley does a great job of making it simple for them. And yet to the offense it can seem fairly complex. And those guys just go out and.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They play really, really fast.

[Rob Parker]

And that's what shows up all over the tape. By the way, he didn't compliment the offense. He's an offensive guy. He gave all the love to the defense. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

So are you still surprised that this is six and a half.

[Rob Parker]

This line? I'm. One of my bets of the week is a very close game. I think Green Bay at home probably wins but six and a half points.

[Colin Cowherd]

So it is interesting when the sometimes the packers have had a couple of letdowns. Remember that Panthers game is like what's.

[Rob Parker]

Going on with Cleveland game. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

What are Cleveland and the Panthers not good football teams? I know The Panthers are 7 and 6, but you know what I'm talking about.

[Rob Parker]

No.

[Colin Cowherd]

When they play the cream of the crop, packers rise up. I'm very curious. Listen, we know what the Bears want to do. They want to run the football and get a lead. Right? You're gonna be able to do that against this packers defense. Look at the numbers here, Colin. They don't give up anything. Micah Parsons probably second best defensive player.

[Rob Parker]

What's your best game? What's your best bet on the board this week?

[Colin Cowherd]

I can't give that out on a Wednesday. Come on, dog. You gotta wait for for it. I will say I'm on the opposite side of you here. I did bet the packers six and a half and they're a great teaser leg, you know, the six point teaser. But I think the packers hand little truth serum to your boys.

[Rob Parker]

Oh yeah, that's what I heard in Philadelphia that was gonna be true serum.

[Colin Cowherd]

I. I didn't say that.

[Rob Parker]

Somebody keep drinking the serum and we don't get sick.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, let's move on to college football and the Ole Miss saga. How about this one? So offensive coordinator Charlie Weiss Jr. Yeah, he left Ole Miss with Lane to go to lsu, but he is going to call plays for Ole Miss during the College Football Playoff. Obviously they wanted to Ole Miss made some concessions. They want to make sure they host a first round game. You know, they didn't want any of that FSU stuff that happened a couple years ago to happen to Ole Miss. I don't have a huge problem with this, Colin, but if you notice, yesterday on social media, some Ole Miss players were criticizing Lane's comments, like, bro, that's not what you told us in the locker room. And now the Ole Miss AD is coming out and saying, and this just is breaking now. Hey, guys, Lane knew he wasn't going to coach these guys in the playoffs, so all what he's talking about now is lies, basically. And I just wonder, what are the players going to think when the OC leaves? What's coming back to call plays? Isn't there still a disconnect? Like, dude, you left us.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, I don't like it. I, I, I don't like it at all. I, I would just listen. The breakup felt gross to begin with, but it's Lane's history. I would not go back to coach. These people were at an airport screaming.

[Colin Cowherd]

Carrying their babies and screaming expletives at Lane Kiffin.

[Rob Parker]

Can you ever imagine if I said to you in your life at some point, for any reason whatsoever, you drive to a private airport to flip people off and scream at them? Yeah. Is there anything that could get you there?

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, maybe if you fired me from this job and I, you know, my family was penniless. You know, I don't yell at you.

[Rob Parker]

I'm, first of all, I don't go to private airports. Second of all, I don't have that power. I'm in row 28 on Southwest.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Economy. I forgot. But in all honesty, think about Charlie Weiss Jr. Walking back into the locker.

[Rob Parker]

It's weird.

[Colin Cowherd]

And everybody's looking at him like, you ditched us.

[Rob Parker]

I don't at all that so I.

[Colin Cowherd]

Don'T know how you're handicapping this, but all I know is if I'm a top four seed, I want to see Ole Miss in, in my first round game. I think that's an easy dub for whoever Ole Miss you, you want that? See, I think it's the three.

[Rob Parker]

I totally agree. I saw, I thought that last night. I'm like, I want to play Ole Miss.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Assuming they get by their first matchup. All right, final story. Colin, let's go to the Eagles. You know, I pressed my guy Martin here, like, what's the real story with the Eagles? I don't want to hear this. Well, the offensive line stinks. They were great last year. Saquon Barkley got slow. It's more than that. Like you said, they lead the league in three and outs. They've blown two fourth quarter leads at home. It's very bizarre. They got blown out by the G men. Okay. Nick Sirianni searching for answers and this is his best bet as to what the hell's going on.

[Rob Parker]

Of course, none of us are.

Doing a good enough job right now.

[Kelvin Washington]

We all got it. We all have to look internally and get better.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And that doesn't that when I say.

[Kelvin Washington]

That, hopefully you guys always understand that.

[Rob Parker]

I'm looking at myself very first and I'm looking at the coaches to do the same thing and obviously the players to do the same thing.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I mean, I know nobody wants to hear this, but super bowl hangover is a thing, Kong. Yeah, it's real. I mean, it didn't really happen on the Chiefs every year. They had Mahomes, who was young and Reed. But I look at this Eagles team and they look like they're going through the motions, if that makes sense.

[Rob Parker]

Well, I think the thing with me, it's another. I'll give you two teams this year. The San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator and the Eagles offensive coordinator are proving it's not just about players. We always think this league is about quarterbacks and head coaches, coordinators. There's a reason they make seven figures. The Eagles talent on offense is remarkable. The Niners talent on defense is bottom 10 right now. Great coordinators change outcomes. That's why I said Robert Sala has to be the assistant of the year in the NFL.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, that's not a bad. I mean, yeah. Now I don't know where you go with that. Like, does he get interviews instantly? Like, absolutely.

[Rob Parker]

Coach the jets five minutes ago, I would hire Salah. In one minute, I'd hire Stable. Yeah, yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

But I will just say about the Eagles, Colin. They had a weird thing. Did you see Jihad Campbell?

[Rob Parker]

The.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm probably butchering his name. The rookie had an awesome start to the season. And then the linebacker, Nakobe Dean comes back, takes his job. Campbell didn't have one defensive snap and I'm like, what's that about? And then they got run over. Dean's more of an edge rusher. Campbell's a tough linebacker. I just don't know what's going on in that with the coaches, the oc Like I know his house got egged. I'm sure you saw by some unruly Eagles fans who have no life Thanksgiving weekend to go eggs egg a coordinator's house. Like things are just wacky in Philly.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, they are. J Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

And thanks for stopping the Herd lie.

[Rob Parker]

News Judge Cowherd the Honorable Judge Cowherd will deliver his heretics on quarterbacks in this league. Young quarterbacks next. We're live in Chicago. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You're thoughtful about where your money goes. You've got your core holdings, some recurring crypto buys, maybe even a few strategic options plays on the side. The point is, you're engaged with your investments and Public gets that. That's why they built an investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can put together a multi asset portfolio for the long haul. Stocks, bonds, options, crypto. It's all there. Plus an industry leading 3.6% APY high yield cash account. Switch to the platform built for those who take investing seriously. Go to public.com and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com paid for by Public Investing. All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for U.S. listed registered securities options and bonds in a state self directed account are offered by Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures Thursday.

[Rob Parker]

Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Dallas Cowboys take on the Detroit Lions in a new rivalry with lots of heat. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Cowboys and the lions Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. The holiday season can be exhausting with all the parties and the end of year celebrations. But don't forget to take care of yourself by stocking up on your favorite nutritional products. Now through December 30, shop in store and online and save on items like Cliff Snack Bars, Luna Bars, Boost Nutritional Energy Drinks, Premier Protein Shakes, Z Bar Variety Packs open Nature Powder and Body Fortress Protein powder offers end December 30th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is the story of the One as a custodial supervisor at a high school, he knows that during cold and flu season, germs spread fast. It's why he partners with Granger to stay fully stocked on the products and supplies he needs, from tissues to disinfectants to floor scrubbers, all so that he can help students, staff and teachers stay healthy and focused. Call 1-800-GRAINGER click granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done.

[Rob Parker]

Hey, what's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. If you love breaking down football from every angle, you're in the right place. Every week on Move the six, Bucky Brooks and I dive deep into the game, from the X's and O's to the front office. Moves, moves shaping the league. We kick things off with Brian Baldinger breaking down what really went down on Sunday. It is as good a timing rhythm offense as there is in the league right now. Then Rhett Lewis joins us for our rookie draft and coordinator of the week where we highlight the rising stars and the masterminds calling the shots. DJ talked me into a Ronde Gadsden Jr. He had a monster game. Monster. A monster game. And you hear from the voices who actually build the game, GMs, coaches and players who give you insight you won't get anywhere else. High standards and high care. That's the right combination. So whether you're studying tape or just love great football talk, subscribe to Move the sticks on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's a great time to be a soccer fan. On Friday, it all kicks off with the FIFA World cup final draw at 11:30am Eastern on Fox. Then on Saturday, Messi and Inter Miami square off against Vancouver for the MLS cup at 2:30pm Eastern. Also on Fox.

[Rob Parker]

Fired up for that. Fired up for that draw. I know you are. Well, it's time for the honorable Judge Cowherd presiding in the court of my opinion. Today you give me all the quarterbacks, all the young quarterbacks in the League 2024 class. I am ready. Let's make judgments. Fire away.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right. Do you accept the case that Caleb Williams is a franchise quarterback?

[Rob Parker]

Yes. Let me direct your attention to Caleb. Star witness is head coach Ben Johnson.

One of the best passers on third down. Thanks to Ben Johnson fourth highest touchdown interception ratio 37 touchdown to 11 picks since he entered the league. Yes. Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh boy, what a lenient judge. Do you accept the case that Jaden Daniels is a franchise quarterback?

[Rob Parker]

Now everyone rise and raise your right hand for. For Jaden's left elbow. Yes.

Listen. Highest completion percentage by any rookie quarterback ever. He is a highly mobile, highly accurate, highly coachable, really bright kid who's injury prone. The verdict is yes, he's a franchise guy.

[Colin Cowherd]

I like how they got a photo of you smiling. Judges should be serious. Do you accept the case that Judge Drake May is a franchise quarterback?

[Rob Parker]

I would like to state for the record that Drake May is arguably the best quarterback out of the 2024 draft class. Yes. On pace to be the second youngest quarterback to lead the NFL and pass a rating. Who's number one? Dan Marino. Greatness in a league of mediocrity is easy to spot. Drake Mays. Great.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, now we get to the hard ones. Colin, do you accept the case that Michael Penix is a franchise quarterback?

[Rob Parker]

As your judge, you are instructed to disregard what you saw at the University of Washington. He just had his third major knee surgery in his young career. No is the answer. He is a pure pocket passer. I said when he came out early, injury would scare me. Right now his Wins are over J.J. mcCarthy, Marcus Mariota and Drew Locke. So far, no, not a franchise quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, all right, I kind of agree. Do you accept the case that JJ McCarthy, after like seven starts is a franchise quarterback?

[Rob Parker]

As I stated earlier, the evidence does not support any argument that JJ Is ready to start a franchise. The vikings have averaged 17 points a game when he starts. His completion percentage is rough. 54% passer rating. Minimum 100 attempts. Minimum 100 attempts. 58. There's no, no evidence to support. As your judge. There is no evidence to support he's a franchise quarterback. All right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Do you accept the case that Bo Nix is a franchise quarterback?

[Rob Parker]

Remember J. Mac, we are all under oath to solemnly swear that Bo Nix is ready to lead a franchise. Listen, he leads the NFL the last two years with eight game winning drives. There is an it quality to being a franchise guy in this league. You can be great early, but if you shrink late, no thanks. He can struggle early. He and Caleb both can. They rise late. That's a franchise quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

And finally, do you accept the case that Spencer Rattler is a franchise quarterback?

[Rob Parker]

Stating his full name for the record. Spencer Benson Rattler. No, he is a backup quarterback. I mean, come on. He's 1 in 1312 touchdowns, 15 giveaways and a passer rating under 80. I. He's talented. He reminds me of Drew Locke. I can see the talent. I know he's got a good arm. I know he might moves. Okay. You gotta win games, you gotta make good decisions. Did you see who the Saints replaced him with last week? A couple weeks ago?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, Tyler.

Yeah, I forgot about Spencer Rattler, honestly. But listen, you're a lenient judge. Colin, let's be real. It's a little early on Pennix and McCarthy given the injuries. I mean Pennix barely started last year.

[Rob Parker]

I will say a all these. I feel very strongly what's really the Michael Pennix injury. His third.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Is so I think if you're Atlanta now, you've got to start drafting a backup quarterback because he hasn't been elite and he can't stay healthy. I've said this with JJ McCarthy you would know if he could stay healthy if he was the guy by now. That's the worst part. You. You don't think he is, but you don't really know because he's not available to start. I.

Bo Nix and Caleb Williams.

Bo Nicks doesn't get sacked and he's durable. Caleb doesn't throw picks and they're durable and they're both great late. So I don't expect everybody to be Drake May. I will say we talked about this yesterday. If you go back to the last and I don't top my head 30 drafts, you get one franchise quarterback. A no doubt about it. Good guy, can make a Pro bowl or two or three or four. You get one franchise quarterback every draft. I think quarterback plays better now in college, you may get two now, but you get a star about every four to five years. You get a Drake May or you. I mean, Drake May is a star. Drake May is a. They don't even have a good O line or a good run game. And they may be the number one seed. With Denver, you have a stacked rock. Denver's roster, Chicago's roster, there's no holes, right? I mean like New England's roster. I don't like their O line or their run game. And they have no number one receiver. Drake May is what you get every. Every fourth draft. Like a star.

[Colin Cowherd]

So. But I don't like to throw around franchise quarterback tags. So I'll ask you, like, is Baker Mayfield a franchise quarterback? He's on like his 16th.

[Rob Parker]

Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sam Darnold, I'm assuming you think is a franchise.

[Rob Parker]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. Well, if that's the case, then yes. I will agree with some of these, Colin, but let me ask you about Bryce Young, because last year, if you had asked Franchise quarter, hell no, right? This year you're like, I can see him being my quarterback for the next two or three.

[Rob Parker]

So this is good. So you and I have talked about this.

Put it in context. Sam Darnold's a franchise quarterback at 33 million a year, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[Rob Parker]

That's Baker, who can be reckless, is a franchise quarterback at 35 million a year. I would keep Bryce Young at 33. I'm letting him go if the demand is 46. He is small. He can get banged up. They have a pretty good run game right now. So he's got a very good offensive coach, Dave Canales. And the Panthers have two running backs, Chuba Hubbard and Rico Dowdle. Those are good players and. And they have upgraded their defense. I think Dan Morgan's actually a really sharp former player. Really sharp gm. The guys in the league I know really like Dan Morgan. I think Canales is good. Now, I'm not blame. I'm not saying that Bryce Young's only good because of them because nobody's good with bad GMs and bad coaches. I think Bryce Young is one of those guys like. I like Bryce Young. I think he has more talent than Daniel Jones. Daniel's bigger. Okay. I think Daniel's got a better arm and is bigger. I think. I think Bryce Young's more talented. I think he's got. I think he's just more efficient, more accurate. So I think there's those guys like Daniel Jones and Bryce Young. I think they're franchise quarterback. The number has to be in the 30s. And then you have to be like, you know, 9 to 12% of the salary cap. You can't be 26%.

[Colin Cowherd]

Colin, you're right. So maybe we need new. A new label from franchise quarterback. Well, 35 mil versus Dak. Because if you look at the AFC standings. Colin, take a look the playoff teams. Look at all the top teams. Tell me which one of those guys are franchise quarterback. Because Bo Nix and Drake may top two seeds. Rookie quarterback deal.

[Rob Parker]

They are franchise quarterbacks.

[Colin Cowherd]

On a rookie deal like Trevor. Trevor Lawrence's hasn't totally kicked in. Lamar Jackson's barely in there. They're paying Lamar Herbert, rookie deal. Daniel Jones, small deal. Look who's on the outside. Patrick Mahomes. You got to pay him a lot. Joe Burrow. I know he's been hurt, but franchise quarterback, money matters. I don't know how we re.

[Rob Parker]

I think there's three kind of quarterbacks in the NFL franchise, bridge and backup.

I think Bryce Young is a guy that you get a favorable deal on and then you start drafting quarterbacks in the third and fourth round because he's injury prone. And you just. Every other year let's just draft a quarterback.

[Kelvin Washington]

Now.

[Rob Parker]

I used to think that about Dak and it takes a while now Dax in his 10th year and he's literally as good as anybody in the league this year consistently. He and Stafford. So I think it's hard. Quarterback's the hardest position. I mean if you go look at the 30 best offensive tackles in league history, 27 are drafted in the first round. Most of your great edge rushers and defensive tackles, first round. But there are positions like quarterback where Dak fourth round. I mean just start, start looking around. Jalen Hurts, second round. Baker third or fourth team. Sam Darnold, the world gave up on him. Brock Purdy, seventh round. So it's, it's, it's not easy. Quarterback is leadership and toughness and guile and, and pre snap. It's a really hard position. There are three categories. You're a franchise guy, Justin Herbert, you're a bridge guy, Jacoby Brissette, and then you're a backup, whoever you want to, you know, Zach Wilson or, you know, I think the tough one is when you get a Bryce Young and you're like, all right, we like him. He falls in the Baker class. I'm not paying him 49, 54 million a year, but I'll be honest. Three is good.

[Colin Cowherd]

Colin Drake, May 50 mil. They're going to be fine.

[Rob Parker]

Oh yeah, you're.

[Colin Cowherd]

But I'll be, I'll be dead serious. I don't think you can pay B Knicks $50 million a year and expect Denver to compete. Yeah, I don't think you can.

[Rob Parker]

Let's, let's give him another 10, 15 starts. Let's give Caleb another 10 to 15 starts. I do think Caleb, if you're talking, if you're telling me he's going to complete 58% of his throws at some point if you pay him. I mean, if they paid Caleb Williams this season, could you keep Joe Tooney? Could you keep DJ Moore? Could you, I mean you couldn't. Could you keep Jalen Johnson?

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[Rob Parker]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Rob Parker]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[Rob Parker]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Rob Parker]

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