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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - Eric Mangini Joins The Herd & Colin's Blazin' 5
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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
I mean, he's only carrying the Lakers right now without Luka and LeBron.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, J. Mack, a little J Mutch with the gun show, but whatever, you know, talking about I haven't worked out all week.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Come on. All right, that's a lie.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, I last week I did something I never do with my picks. I said I'm taking all favorites. I don't like favorites this week. Once again, I'm doing something you shouldn't do. Taking road favorites. They tell you don't do that. I don't love the numbers. I like the numbers more this week than last week. I just end up doing well last week. So the last couple of weeks it's a lot of favorites, but it's been working. I'm going to do it again. And here we go. That's a hot one. Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins. Blazing fire 49ers at Giants. I like the Niners minus two and a half at the Giants without Scatter Boo. Listen, the Giants, they're not playing clean football and the Niners have the number two passing offense and the Giants pass defense stinks. The Niners are 20 after a loss and I like taking well coached Teams after they play poorly. The Niners last week not buttoned up. They're in a bad mood. No Malik neighbors, no Cam scatter boo for the five losses by the Giants this year. Defense isn't very good, have been by 12 plus points. Too many penalties, they give up big plays and I think Mac Jones can burn you. I like the Niners to win and cover the spread. 28:23 Bears at Bengals I think it's a good matchup for Chicago. I'll take the road favorite minus two and a half since week four. Well the Bears are four and one of the Bengals are one and five so there's that. Bears didn't get turnover advantages last week but they generally do and their offense does lead the NFL in big plays. And the Bengals defense this year is awful. They're last in everything but third down defense and they're next to last. With that they're one in five without Burrow. They don't run the ball particularly well and Joe Flacco's banged up. The Bears are not a great team but they can be very good when they get a good matchup like the Dallas defense or the Bengals defense. I think Chicago wins and covers the spread. Final score 3327 set builds. I like the over 52 1/2 points. The over weather's going to be fine. 3rd ranked offensive line Buffalo and the 4th ranked offensive line Kansas City so both quarterbacks will have time to throw five straight games for Kansas City scoring 28 or more and their receiving tight end core is stacked. Number one total offense in the last month. The Bills averaging six yards a play, second best in the NFL. Josh Allen when he plays the Chiefs he'll run it a bit more. But if you look at the games between Mahomes and Josh Allen, the defenses struggle to make stops. I think it's a classic Buffalo Kansas City matchup. I think Kansas City's gonna win. Take the over 52 1/2 points. Seahawks at Commander I'm going to take the Commanders plus three and a half at home. Listen, Jaden Daniels hamstring and Laramie Tunzel hamstring both could return second best red zone offense in the NFL only behind the Eagles. So if they can move the ball they can get touchdowns. They also run the ball effectively and I like that the Seahawks are getting sloppy and a bit reckless for me. I love Sam Darnold but he's gotten back to some bad habits right now. The Seahawk offense in the last couple of couple of games is sputtering. No Kevin o' Connell in the building. Commanders win it, take the points. I like Washington 28 to 27. Cowboys, Cardinals. Cowboys. I'm going to take Dallas -2 and a half. They're just a very good home team. One of five teams that hasn't lost at home. Number one scoring offense in the league. And at home, strangely, they don't give the ball away. Only one giveaway in Dallas all year. I just like what they do at home. Dak having a really good season. Protections better than I thought. So is the run game. The Cardinals, that defense is banged up and Getting worse. Allowed 27 plus points in back to back games. Again, this is really. I'm taking Dak at home over a better team. Who knows who's quarterbacking for Arizona, but I think they're regressing. Dallas still believes in that building. They can make the playoffs and maybe they can swallow the points. Dallas wins and covers 28 to 24. So again I'm taking favorites. I'm not prone to do that. Plus the over on the Bills and the Chiefs. With that we bring in Eric Mangini, Jets, Brown. So here's the word. Chris Greer has been let go in Miami. As the GM they're going to keep Mike McDaniel. I, I believe interim coaches get you in trouble because they come in, they win a couple games. The fan base and the media want the interim coach and that's, that's not the best case. So I would keep the coach to the end. I'm going to throw something at you and I want your reaction.
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Eric Mangini
Okay.
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Colin Cowherd
Of the okay the franchise has to move off to in my opinion. I mean it's a cold weather conference. I mean it's all the good teams have cold weather. He can't do it. So college football has changed. They have free agency. The college coaches now with the Nil and the Portal, they're like NFL coaches. They have to pay players to have negotiate salaries. They have free agency. I would call Lane Kiffin and I would say Lane, you've seen of these eight quarterbacks that everybody likes. You recruited them, you've coached against them, you've watched tape against him. You had Jackson dart, you know the conference. Is it crazy to say the coach selects the GM and that Lane may be a great fit here?
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Eric Mangini
Yeah, I think Lane could definitely be a really good fit in the NFL. I don't know if that's what he wants to do. So it was he and Sarkeesian, right at the Raiders as co offensive coordinators at one point and I could see Both of those guys moving back into the NFL. And look, he's had so much success in college football, and he's really good at that, and I think it'd be good in pro football as well. It just depends on whether he wants to make that transition. But I would imagine considering his lineage and his experience in the NFL, at some point he's going to want to get back into the league.
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Colin Cowherd
So, you know, when you look at the Bills and the Chiefs, I said earlier, generally December and January football, you know, this Brady and Belichick Super Bowls, with the exception of the Rams game, they're all one possession. Games win, lose, they're all one possession. The difference between Mahomes and Allen is Andy Reid, outside of maybe Bill Walsh is the best offensive coach ever, and he wins those little situational moments. I think McDermott's a very good coach. I think Andy's a legend. To me, the difference is they both went to small markets. They didn't win a lot in college. They're both insanely talented. Both franchises won playoff games before they got there. They were, well run. To me, the difference is Andy Reid. It's not Mahomes and Allen. It's kind of Andy Reid in these big spots. Your thoughts on that?
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Eric Mangini
Yeah, the. The coaching situation that Patrick went into was about as good as you could possibly get because he not only had Andy Reid, but he had Spagnolo on the other side. And I know it wasn't great early there defensively, but that stability from a coaching perspective has been really good. I do think, though, there is an element of who is better in the bigger moments. And for years you had Brady and Manning, and how many Super Bowls would Peyton have won if Tom Brady hadn't been around? And it wasn't. You know, there was an element of coaching there as well, and I believe that especially really early in Tom's career. But there was also an element of Peyton was around when the greatest player of all time was around. And now Patrick Mahomes is arguably the next the heir to that throne. And unfortunately for Josh Allen, he's around when the greatest player potentially of all time is around.
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Colin Cowherd
So we've had a lot of discussions on Caleb Williams, and I said, listen, here's the things I like. He's coachable because I watch him on the first drive. His execution is excellent. He's not rigid or stubborn. He'll take the coaching. Secondly, he has developed a nice relationship with Roma Dunze. You can feel it. They trust each other. Third is, he's got. He's got an arm, he's got, he's got the tools. I do think operationally it's not good enough. And I don't know if he's ever going to be 68% completion guy. Where are you now? I like, I think they're a team that's good, not great. So I like their matchup. I think when they face the Dallas defense or the Bengals defense, they're more comfortable. I don't think they're a good enough offense to face a lot of discomfort. They can handle, you know, a little less of a pass rush. Where are you on Caleb, Ben Johnson and the Bears right now?
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Eric Mangini
Yeah, I'm, I'm a lot like you, Colin, as I see the good things that Caleb does week in and week out. And then you get frustrated with the inconsistency of playing and you want to see more development as a quarterback, as a leader, as someone who can run the offense effectively without getting the penalties that just kill you. And it's interesting, last year when they were right before the Washington game or leading up to the Washington game, they were four, two and then they had that terrible, terrible loss. And Caleb had three games in a row where he's below 80 in a quarterback rating. Here we are a year later, they have the terrible loss of the Ravens and He's in a three game stretch of below 80 quarterback rating A year removed with a totally different head coach, a different team, different situation. So you're, I'm disappointed that that's where we are a year later and, and I'd like to see the jump happen quicker. I do think we have to go through this entire season and I'm optimistic that he's going to get significantly better by the end of the season and take some, some jumps here maybe over the next four weeks and then, then the four weeks following.
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Colin Cowherd
So I said there, it's not that A.J. brown's a bad guy, but if you look at the Eagles, their most famous play is the Tush Push. It's ugly, it's in artistic, it's a collective. And then he's standing over on the sideline like, like they're not built, they're not built around A.J. brown. Now, most teams aren't built. I mean the Bengals are built largely on Burrow and Jamar Chase. But I think A.J. brown is a good guy. I think it's a weird fit. Were you ever in a locker room? It could be the Patriots, the Jets or the Browns where you loved a player, but he wasn't necessarily a fit or great for the room. And, I mean, DEZ Bryant, when he was in Dallas, like, Dak was better not having to kind of babysit a superstar receiver. What do you do if you're Philly last week? No, AJ Brown's the best their offense has looked in, like, since. In a year.
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Eric Mangini
Yeah. Look, it's. It's a really tough situation with A.J. brown. He's a great player, but there's a reason that Tennessee moved on from him. And we see great receivers all the time where they get traded. And. And with AJ he wasn't happy after they won the Super Bowl. He was reading the book during the playoffs last year. Now, he started, you know, expressing his dissatisfaction publicly much earlier this year. And Bill Parcells used to say that sometimes, you know, guys are a little bit like a bucket with a hole in it. No matter how much water you put in it, it's always going to be empty. And as much as you try to fix a relationship and as much as you try to make things right, it just doesn't matter how much you pour into it, you can't fill it up and you can't make them happy. So what ends up happening, typically in situations like this is the Eagles get to the point where they move on from AJ Brown, and then AJ Goes somewhere and maybe has one or two years there. Maybe he has a different perspective on things and lasts longer, but just seems like this is one of those situations where the bucket as a whole.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, you're going to show some video here. I said this. Sometimes I trust my eyes. When you watch Drake May, he's got to learn to slide. He's not good at that. But when the ball comes out, it's got. It's got a little heat on it. It comes out tight. I think he throws a very nice deep ball. Some of it is my eyes don't lie. He just looks the part. Tell me your thoughts on Drake May.
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Eric Mangini
Yeah, you know, I looked at him this very similar to Sam Darnold coming out of college, because the amount of touchdowns and interceptions and him getting together with Josh McDaniels, I think couldn't have been a better situation. And we see now how Sam Darnold's progressed. This is years down the line, but we're seeing all the potential that he had. And with Drake May, this has happened a lot quicker. And I'm going to show you a tape, Colin, that you're going to love. And if you're a New England Patriots fan, you're going to love this tape as well, because it shows his development from a quarterback perspective and it shows his potential physically. So in this situation, it's early in the game they're sending Hunter Henry in motion to give him a man zone answer, what is it, man or zone? And then they're going to throw or they're going to fake that. They're throwing a wide receiver screen to Stefon Diggs, obviously their biggest target. And then Henry and Mack Hollins, they're going to go up and they're going to try to bluff the defenders, get those defenders to bite on the wide receiver screen to Stefon Diggs. And then ideally, Hunter Henry now is going to run a middle read. Mack Hollins is going to go ahead and he's going to run a fade route. And they get two on one on the safety. So it's a little bit of a gadget play that's on the front side of this route. And then on the backside of the route with Tayshawn Booty, he's going to run a slant go. He's the isolation route. He's the second option on this. But they want to hit the home run with the gadget play on the front side. What New Orleans is doing is they're inside straight man to man coverage across the board, which means they have one player deep that's going to be the safety. Usually he's in a post safety column, but they're going to slide him over to the three receiver side where Diggs and Henry are. And they're bringing a fifth guy off the edge because they want to set the edge on Drake May. They want to make sure that he doesn't have a scramble lane because he's hurt so many people with that. So as he comes back, he's going to sell the wide receiver screen to Diggs and he does a good job of it. But what he's really doing is he's looking downfield to see whether he's got what he wants from the coverage. Had the defensive backs bid up, has the safety bid up and he doesn't have that. So now he's got to look backside to Booty. And you can see at this point, Booty is far from open. He's locked down a man coverage. New Orleans has a good rush. This is what I really like about Drake May. So it's not there. He doesn't panic. He keeps his eyes downfield. Look at how he finds the opening over here to his left, the seam. Again, there's no panic. Eyes are downfield. He moves into that Little crease. And then take a look at this. This is very Josh Allen esque. It's almost like a jump pass. He's on one foot, but you're going to see he comes actually off the ground and it's effortless. Booty's nowhere near wide open. This is tight man to man coverage and you're going to see from this other angle how well this ball is thrown. So there he looks, slides into the crease and look how he drops this into the pocket off of his back foot. So it's. If you need a reason to be excited, it's that he took a look at what the coverage was. The coverage wasn't there. He's got patience, he's got poise, and then he effortlessly throws the ball 25 yards down the field and in the bucket. So a lot to be happy. Happy about.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, it just some stuff just looks right very early. I said this when, when Justin Herbert was a rookie with Shane Steichen the coordinator. I'm like, I don't know if he wins playoff games that that's what a franchise quarterback looks like. Drake May, to me is the East Coast. Justin Herbert, I don't know what he does in January that wins 10 plus games a year. If he's standing upright, he's too good not to.
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Eric Mangini
Yeah, it's. It's so good to see the development too. That's what I was most worried about is were we going to get to the same situation where we've got 15 touchdowns and 11 picks and he's making poor decisions. But in that situation, good processing, good field in the pocket, good looking down the field. A lot to be happy about.
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Colin Cowherd
Eric Mangini on a Friday. Great seeing you, coach.
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Eric Mangini
Great seeing you. Congratulations on all those honors, Colin. So well deserved.
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Colin Cowherd
Thank you. That's very kind of you to say. I certainly appreciate that. It was. We got to bed a little late last night. It was a neat night being inducted into the radio hall of Fame. And thank you to all the well wishers and the people that have supported me through the years. IHeartradios, obviously, Premier Radio Networks have been unbelievable and were again last night. So Urban Meyer stopping by next hour. Yeah, folks, the Lane Kiffin stuff to me is whether you like him or not, Lane's got a presence. Lane's got some alpha. That's what Miami's missing. I mean they've got, they got to get the O line right. They got to get the GM right more than anything in the afc. New England, Baltimore. Look at all these teams that are good in the afc. You got to get a big guy who can sling it in cruddy weather. I know you play in the sun. Nothing is decided in the September in the NFL nothing is decided. Everything is decided after Thanksgiving. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, is Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino enrich live on YouTube every day. All you gotta do search Covino Enrich FSR on YouTube again. Go to YouTube search Covinoenrich FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and.
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Katie Couric
Comment away on the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Colin Cowherd
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Colin Cowherd
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Colin Cowherd
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app search next Question with Katie Couric and listen now.
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Danny Trejo
Welcome fellow seekers of the dark. I'm Danny Trejo. Won't you join me in Tales from the Shadows, an anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends and lore of Latin America. Take a trip from ghastly encounters with evil spirits to bone chilling brushes with supernatural creatures and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of my Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says, my neighbor is a Karen.
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Colin Cowherd
No way.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying. Humongous, y'.
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Eric Mangini
All.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
They have some some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Jejun. And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things, food and history. Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostracons to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster. No way.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
Bring back the ostracon.
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Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
And because we've got a very mi casa es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
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Colin Cowherd
Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golfo de Mexico. No, the America.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
No, the America.
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Colin Cowherd
Forever and ever.
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Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education rights. Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
The worst part about the Ravens dominating win last night is I wish when you put those Thursday night games on and they're probably the best bet of the weekend, I can't put it in blazing five. So Baltimore felt like a. I mean, just. You can just watch what's happening with Miami. I'll say it again. Lane Kiffin's the choice, I think, for Miami. I've talked to now two general managers about it this morning. Remember when Lane Kiffin went to the Raiders, Al Davis forced him to draft Jamarcus Russell? I talked to lane about this 10 years ago. He didn't want to draft him. Nobody can win with Jamarcus Russell. Don't blame the coach, Shane Steichen last year. It's so amazing how good Shane Steichen is again, it's like he forgot football last year. Well, look at the quarterback play like Kevin o'. Connell. Everybody bangs on the coaches. If you don't have the right quarterback, everybody looks incompetent. You got to get the quarterback right in Miami and you need a little bit of alpha, but you don't want to give up too much innovation. Mike McDaniel, smart, lot of innovation. Kiffin would give you the innovation, more alpha. College football coaches, now they're CEOs. They used to just be recruiters. Now they got a salary cap. Now they got to pay players. Now they got to negotiate contracts. The college guys. Jim Harbaugh was basically a pro coach at Michigan. That's what Lane Kiffin is at Ole Miss. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Be nice if Lane got to pick his quarterback and he had the choice of a guy like Lamar Jackson, who was phenomenal last night. Colin, my goodness, we haven't talked about it enough. Four tutties in the roll to victory over hapless Miami. Error prone Miami. Here's the interesting thing. Baltimore now minus 180 to win the AFC north, meaning you got to lay 180 bucks to win 100. If you had done this a few weeks ago when we told you to.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
You might be a rich man. I'm not saying it's a lock, but we all know the Steelers are a fool's gold. The Browns State.
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Colin Cowherd
I love watching Lamar Jackson play.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Well, let me ask. So he didn't look as it's his first game back, he didn't look as fast and fleet of foot and elusive.
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Eric Mangini
Right.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Would you agree with.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think he's probably at 90%. He's got, you know, I mean I. My take is quarterback's first game back from injury. In the NFL there's a brotherhood. You want to play when you're hurt. You don't in baseball, you don't in basketball. So I don't think Lamar Jackson's 100% healthy. He's probably 90%. And so my take on it, he's not going to run as effectively. He's not going to run as much. He's not going to look quite as fast. He's fine. But in the NFL, a lot of times quarterbacks especially will play hurt because they know the beating their old linemen take and running backs take and tight ends take. So quarterbacks tend to want to get on the field and be part of the room, be part of the brotherhood. So I Don't think. I think Brock Purdy is going to come back. He's not going to be 100% healthy. I don't think Lamar was last night.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Upcoming five games for the Ravens. Here are the quarterbacks they will face at JJ McCarthyNGabriel versus Justin Fields versus Jake Browning versus Aaron Rodgers. That smells like 5, 0. Maybe they slip up in Cleveland which does play tough defense at home they do but four and one five zero just Ravens are coming folks. Let's go to, let's stay in the AFC north. Go to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I can't wait for them to fall off so we can stop talking about these guys. They're just not a good football team. They're to the point that Cam Hayward, one of their defensive leaders is calling out the team for having a pathetic defense. Here he is ahead of the matchup against the Colts.
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Colin Cowherd
I just think we, we, we all.
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Eric Mangini
Just got to get better. You know, I challenge everybody.
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Colin Cowherd
I challenge myself first and foremost. You know, that's always the way I've been raised. You can't look at anybody else. You got to look at yourself. And you know the, the way to get this, this bad taste out of our mouth is just play better football. Yeah, I don't understand the line here so I stayed away. I think The Colts are 10 points better. I think the good teams have pulled away from the Steelers. Both Green Bay and Seattle in Pittsburgh completely pulled away in the second half. I think the Colts will pull away in the second half. I don't understand the line and when I don't understand stuff I avoid it. But I think like Green Bay, you have a very efficient offense that over the course of 12 possessions and that Pittsburgh hit and miss defense. I like the Colts here.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Yeah, I'll try to help some people understand it. I'm going to save all my juice on this one for, for headlines next hour. That's called a tease in the industry, Mr. Cowherd. I'll try to help the folks understand. Final story. Let's go to Wemby. Colin, he was in action last night. He's becoming must see tv. I'm not ready to call him the best player in the league, but he's pretty damn close. How about this line? Colin, 28, 18, six assists, five blocks. The spurs are five and oh, they covered the spread again last night. I'm telling you, they've been a good bet so far this season. Remember, dude is awesome.
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Colin Cowherd
Remember, remember the early criticisms. I remember when he was coming in and they were calling him the best prospect ever, including LeBron. And people. And people were in. And I think he is because he can do things defensively. LeBron can. He just has genetic size advantages, so. But the knock was. He'll get pushed around by people. Yeah, I'm watching the video. Where are the pushers?
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Eric Mangini
Well, bam.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Out of bio. Dunked on him, but who cares? It's one dunk and Wenby talked about. He's like, I'll challenge anything. I love that attitude. I'm just saying. I know everybody thinks the Thunder the best team in the league. Fine. They're also undefeated. They're very good. I think it's worth putting a couple bucks on the San Antonio spurs to win the title. I'm not. I'm dead serious. I know they're young. They got the rookie point guard that they drafted. They got the young kid Castle. They don't even have de' Aaron Fox back yet. He's not even playing for them. He's like an all star level player. This is a really strong team. And I don't know if you have closer. You've been watching. I'll be shocked if they're not top four in the West. Wemby in the middle has altered so many shots. Well, people don't want to drive the lane on them.
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Colin Cowherd
Also, they're starting fives really good. Siobhan Castle is a great play. I don't know about their bench, but the starting five for the spurs is Western Conference final worthy. You just cross your fingers on Wemby's health.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Could you call him a modern Shaq? He's as dominant, but he's just different because he can hit threes.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Europe, European bigs, Alperen, Shangon, Jokic, Wemby, they're as skilled as our number twos. Our. Our off guards are. That's the difference. European players are more skilled at a much earlier level than our domestic players. Yeah, you watch Sengun like, dude's got handles. He has a beautiful touch. He can pass. I covered Arvidus Sabonis in Portland like he was the best passer.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
On that trailblazer team. Arbitus Sabonis, the center, was. So our guys have been brute force like Shaq, you know, or our bigs have, you know, I mean, I. I will say Bill Walton was ahead of his time. He had sort of a European feel where he could shoot, he had touch, he could pass. Bill Walton was like three decades, four decades before his time. But largely, these international bigs, they are in, they are so skilled, and it just Separates them from other eras.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
So the baseball unicorn plays his final games of the season this weekend. Ohtani and the basketball unicorn ushered in.
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Colin Cowherd
How about this? Remember last year when Wemby was taking all these threes?
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Eric Mangini
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And I'm like, folks, he's 7 5. Get him closer to the basket. Stop with the math equations. Wemby this year taking twice as many shots from 10ft. In some of you analytic nerds, some of you GMs out there with your math equations. 7 4. Get him close to the basket. We watch playoff basketball. In all these teams that you shoot threes, they have these streaky halves where they're off. The Celtics will have these halves. And you're like, they're unwatchable. You can get a bucket with this. Between Castle, between Wemby, you can get a 2. It feels like about 60% of the time with the spurs, and there's nothing anybody can do about it. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. Oklahoma City was like, oh, the world's our oyster. We're gonna win all these games. Good luck. Good luck with Wemby. I mean, the good news for okc, they've got Chet Holmgren. So they've got some size as well. But Wemby's just different. And I remember that. Oh, watch out. Our guys. Domestic guys will push him around. Dude.
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress, and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Colin Cowherd
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
- [36:50]
Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Colin Cowherd
Does that sound like a radical idea? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Colin Cowherd
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
- [37:24]
Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Next Question with Katie Couric. And listen now, I'm Eva Longoria.
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Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
And I'm Maite Gomez Rajan. And on our podcast, Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things, food and history. Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells. And they called these ostrakan to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracized is related to the word oyster. No way.
- [37:54]
Colin Cowherd
Bring back the ostrichon.
- [37:56]
Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
And because we've got a very mi casa esucasa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
- [38:02]
Colin Cowherd
Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golf of Mexico. No, the America.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
No, the America.
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Colin Cowherd
El Golf of Mexico continuing as humbo forever and ever.
- [38:15]
Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this, in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education rights. Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Danny Trejo
Welcome fellow seekers of the dark. I'm Danny Trejo. Won't you join me in Tales from the Shadows, an ethology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends and lore of Latin America. Take a trip from ghastly encounters with evil spirits to bone chilling brushes with supernatural creatures and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
- [39:41]
Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
Jenna World, Jenna Jameson Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi World, the Heidi Fly Story, and I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films. We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of of our Life. In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined stardom, then left it all behind. I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man. With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to General on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [40:40]
Colin Cowherd
Aches 611 guys look small. He really does. His length is just insane. Dodger season on the brink. Upset on the horizon in the NFL. Both next it's the hurricane. Be sure to catch Live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Play the Fox Super Six NFL Challenge. Download the Fox Sports app and enter for a free shot to win your share of $10,000. One of the questions is which QB will have the most passing yards this week? Stafford against the Saints, Jordan Love against the Panthers, Goff against the Vikings, or Trevor Lawrence against the Raiders? This is a little tricky. Colin, who you got?
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Colin Cowherd
Matthew Stafford against the Saints. Puka Naku is back. Can I throw this out to you?
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Katie Couric
Wait, hold on.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
What if Stafford's. What if they're up 20 to nothing in the second quarter and they just shut him down? I.
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Colin Cowherd
They don't do that. McVeigh doesn't do that. I'll tell you what's weird. Do you have Packers Panthers in your picks?
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
I do.
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Colin Cowherd
I have a weird feeling.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep, yep, yep. And I looked at the numbers on this game. I came an inch on picking the Panthers in this game.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
That's a bit of a. I like saving the good stuff. It's a trap spot. So they had the Aaron Rodgers game last week?
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Colin Cowherd
Yep, totally.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
And they have the Eagles next week. So it's easy to just be like, oh, hey, here come the Panthers and the Red Rifle. He may start. It's unclear. Bryce Young is practicing. We'll see if it's Young. They got a shot.
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Eric Mangini
I don't. Just go ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
Go ahead. If you go to Lambeau, just don't get all worked up. Go ahead.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Hey, come on. Put your money where your mouth is, big guy. Come on. Take the 13. Go ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I was very close to taking them. I think it's a trap spot for Green Bay. I think it ends up being like 28, 23. Green Bay wins. It's very competitive. I'm just going to say that right now. So the Dodgers season is on the break. Now I said this. That's good for baseball. You don't want Katie and Warriors where it feels unfair. The Dodgers are the only team in baseball where if they lose a World Series, it's a failed season. Now, you could say the Yankees, but the minute the Yankees lost last year to the Dodgers, what was the first thing everybody said? Dodgers have much better players. Dodgers are a much better roster. Dodgers, top to bottom are the only time the Yankees competed when Garrett Cole pitched. They look like a average team compared to the Dodgers. I think a lot of the Dodgers struggles in this series are pressure. Last year, the World Series, the pressure was on the Yankees and the Dodgers. This year, it's all on la and I Think you can see it at the plate. They're getting non competitive at bats. They're getting a lot of really bad at bats. Mookie's flailing. Muncie doesn't look right. So I think baseball, like golf, is one of those sports, a lot of downtime, it gets into your head, you can get into real slumps, even for great players. So I think the perfect, the magic elixir to solve that is Yoshi. So again, a lot of these Asian players come over and they don't listen to American media. They don't care. They come over, they've got a guru, they do their own thing. They are from that perspective in the media. They're removed from it. And this kid, wired to wire, has been an ace all of his 30 starts. He is perfect mechanics, totally focused, unique personality. That is what you need in Toronto. Like you need a guy that is completely laser focused, is absolutely unaffected. He was an ace in Japan. He's an ace in Los Angeles. I don't know if they could win this series. I don't know if the Dodgers could. They can even it up with Yoshi because he's kind of the perfect personality, great mechanics, totally focused, unaffected. Dave Roberts talked about him last night.
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Eric Mangini
I think, you know, he's pitched in huge ball games in Japan. He's pitched in the wbc. And, you know, players that have the weight of a country on their shoulders, there's. That's pressure. And so I just feel that part of his DNA is to just perform at a high level in big spots and control his heartbeat and just continue to make pitches.
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Colin Cowherd
I've said this. There are advantages to your best player being an international player. Like I've always thought, the international basketball players come in more mature. You know, their families are overseas. So when they come to America, these international players, like a Wemby or a Jokic, and a majority of their family is overseas, and their friends and their history and the culture they really feel embedded in, they just come over here to play basketball. They're not distracted at all. I think there's a huge advantage for a lot of international basketball players. And there is a great number of great Southeast Asia baseball players. And they come in and they're not affected by our media. They're not listening to talk radio, or they're not. You know, they don't. They. They really come in totally focused. Yoshi is such a unique personality. He's just unaffected by everything. He was an ace in Japan. He's an ace here and there are. There you Know, and I've said this before, when I go overseas, or when you go overseas, it is different. I'm a visitor. I act differently, I tip differently. I'm probably more generous with my time. I probably illustrate more patience. You know, I change a little bit, a little bit of a chameleon when I. I don't know. I just. I just think I do. So a lot of these athletes that are international athletes, they come over here and they have a very unique focus. And I think sometimes it is hard, you know, like. Like, I've heard this from athletes. They don't want to play in their hometown. They're like. I remember talking to Damon Stoudemire once when he came back to Portland, and he says, you know, in Toronto, he played for the Raptors. He's like, I can go hide because I can't hide in Portland. I've got all my family and relatives and friends here. And so he said, you know, it creates different challenges. So I like the Dodgers in this spot tonight, but so far the Jays have done a much better job of making the Dodgers uncomfortable. And the Dodger Stars aren't hitting. And so Toronto's playing with a ton of confidence. They're playing downhill house money tonight. They're the underdogs in the series. There's not a lot of pressure, especially tonight. So I'll take Dodgers tonight, but in a game seven, be hard to bet against the Blue Jays. So I was saying earlier there, I think the Chicago Bears have been fascinating with Caleb Williams. So when these young quarterbacks come into the NFL, you can see some that are immediately don't work. You know, Jamarcus Russell, when he came into the league, like, that doesn't work. Zach Wilson, it's like, I don't think that's going to work. And then there are those that immediately you're like, oh, that works. Like Jaden Daniels last year, Joe Burrow. I mean, I think Cam Newton's first year, you're like, you're going to. You're going to win some games with Cam Newton. And then you get into these relationships where it's like, Caleb Williams, where you're like, okay, all new coaching staff, second year, something's good. It's hard. Here's where I think Caleb Williams is at. I don't think he is at the place where he can handle a ton of discomfort. I think when he faces the Cowboys defense or this weekend, the Bengals defense, he's got more comfort. An extra beat to throw, an extra beat to make a decision. He can be Highly effective. He probably needs another 15 starts to get to the point where he could face the Chiefs defense and be comfortable. Now some guys never get comfortable. Justin Fields has never gotten comfortable against elite defenses. But Justin Fields will give you these starts against bad defenses. You're like, oh, whoa. But he's never been able to pivot to the quarterback that can do it against great defenses. So I think Caleb is in that. You give him the Cowboys or the Bengals. I like the Bears this weekend and it's going to look different last week. Ravens are healthy on the road, you don't get the time. A little more pressure, little better safety play and it unravels Eric Mangini earlier on what he's seen from the Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams relationship.
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Eric Mangini
It's interesting last year when they, they were right before the Washington game or leading up to the Washington game they were 4 and 2 and then they had that terrible, terrible loss And Caleb had three games in a row where he's below 80 in a quarterback rating. Here we are a year later, they have the terrible loss of the Ravens and He's in a three game stretch of below 80 quarterback rating. A year removed with a totally different head coach, a different team, different situation. So you're, I'm disappointed that that's where we are a year later.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I listen the, a lot of guys you know instantly not going to work and there's a very small handful of guys immediately, you know that's going to work. The majority of young quarterbacks, it's the other 75%. You see stuff. But is it ever going to sync up like I think officially Bo Nix works. Jaden Daniels works. Drake May works. I think Caleb Williams and Penix are in the, you know, I need, I need another 10 starts. But the good news for Caleb, he's got Ben Johnson, Michael Pennix has a defensive coach and I think that stuff matters. So as we look at the NFL schedule this weekend, I like, I like the Bears against Dallas. I like the Bears again. I think Caleb will have time. Just an extra beat. We showed you yesterday the quickest release time in the NFL is Patrick Malms at 2.6 seconds. The slowest is Caleb at 3.1. It's just a beat. It's just a 1000. That's it. It's just an extra beat. An extra step for the receiver to get open. So the games I'm really interested to watch, I want to see if J.J. mcCarthy plays at Detroit. I want to see what it looks like. Everybody loves Detroit. I'm staying away. Everybody loves Green Bay. I'm staying away. A couple weeks ago we had this where the Chargers were going to the Giants and the Bills were playing the Saints and everybody loaded up on the big favorites. I like small favorites this weekend. And one of the small favorites I like, I like the Niners and I like the Bears, both as slight road favorites.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
Okay, big update here from NFL reporters Bryce Young. His ankle is fine, no injury designation. He will start in Lambeau against the Packers. Now, I haven't shifted over to the line to see if it's moved, but that does something for you. I see you grinning over there, almost like you're giddy to jump on the Bryce Young band.
- [51:53]
Colin Cowherd
Also, Brock Bowers is now healthy for the Raiders. Keep your eye on the Raiders upsetting the Jags and keep your eye on the Carolina Panthers, making it very uncomfortable for three and a half quarters against the pack.
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J. Mac (J. Mack)
So I don't hate that, except for the fact that I'll talk about it next hour. I just the last time the packers had success, remember they win the first two games over the Lions and Washington and everybody crowned them, oh, they're going to be in the Super Bowl. And then they just started sputtering. They couldn't cover the spread. They're not putting teams away. They don't have that knockout punch. And I wonder, after that big win on Sunday Night Football over Tomlin, you know, are they going to go back to being the old packers or did they unlock something? Because in second half, Colin, they killed Pittsburgh.
- [52:39]
Colin Cowherd
I guarantee you.
- [52:40]
J. Mac (J. Mack)
I think it was like 28 nothing run or something.
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Colin Cowherd
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Katie Couric
Of Next Question with me, Katie Couric I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years, and today he even throws a few questions my way.
- [53:56]
Colin Cowherd
All right, are you ready for another question? Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.
- [54:01]
Katie Couric
We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [54:49]
Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Rejuan. And this week on our podcast, Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus, the Miami chief stops by.
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Colin Cowherd
If you're not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me.
- [55:01]
Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
- [55:12]
Colin Cowherd
No way.
- [55:13]
Eva Longoria and Maite Gomez Rejuan
Bring back the ostrichon. Listen to Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Podcast Host (Various iHeart Podcasts)
This is an iHeart podcast.