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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - First Herd Hierarchy of 2025, Colts have a new starting QB, Albert Breer
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Colin Cowherd
Now let's get this part you're listening.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, our two on a Tuesday. We got a lot of stuff percolating. Albert Breer is going to be around the corner. John Middelkopf is joining us for the rest of the week. J. Mac in next week. He's been on vacay. So a lot of things moving. The Trey Hendrickson thing apparently they're miles apart in Cincinnati. The J.J. mcCarthy stuff still fascinating. Joe Burrows playing three series last night. Caleb Williams so John, I figured today because I kind of feel like we got coaching changes, free agency, draft development, OTAs, training camp, preseason. I kind of feel like I know I whether I'm right or not, I kind of feel like I know what I believe as of today. So I'm going to give you kind of this is my final herd hierarchy before we get into that season, which is the first Thursday after Labor Day. Here, in my opinion, are the top 10 teams headed into this NFL season.
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Herd hierarchy time is now.
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Colin Cowherd
Let's go.
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The top 10 NFL teams according to.
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Colin Cowherd
College number 10, Detroit lost both coordinators who were excellent, lost a couple of their best offensive linemen on the interior. That's an issue. That's why they addressed it in this draft. They've already had injuries in this preseason and so I they're the fourth NFL team to lose both coordinators in the left last 25 years. It's hard. Go ask Philadelphia and especially when they're elite coordinators that get head coaching jobs. So the division's better. Lost their coordinators. I have Detroit at number 10.
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Number nine, Green Bay.
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Colin Cowherd
Very quiet camp now. Jordan Love struggled in the division last year. He was one in five. Only beat the Bears barely. So that's a little concerning. But they upgraded their receiving core. I, you know, they've they've added some nice pieces. Not necessarily game changers, although they improve the interior of their offensive line and I just think they've had a quiet camp. I'm not worried about the Jordan Love left hand injury at all. I think this is a well run operation. I like teams that are quiet in July and August. They have been I have them at nine. Number eight, the Rams. This is I would have them much higher. I'd have them two or three, but the Matt Stafford injury is concerning. No team played more rookies than the Rams last year, which you'd think is a bad thing. But they were also the least penalized team in the league. They have a smart, young, hyper aggressive defense that will be the key to their team. Not Matt Stafford, but you got to have Stafford on the field. They're not particularly strong at backup. The division. Solid Rams at number eight.
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Number seven.
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Colin Cowherd
The commanders, I may have them higher. I don't like the Terry McLaurin vibe. I think you have to give young quarterbacks dependable weapons. Their offensive line is still okay. Debo will help, but I think. I think the Giants could be a tough, mediocre team. Philadelphia is not going backwards. So I think there's some tough games on the schedule. Back to back playoff teams from last year to. No, that's Green Bay. I think Washington overall is going to be good. I do not think they'll end up in the NFC championship. So they may take a step back and how they finish. But I still think they'll be a very viable, fun team to watch in a playoff team. Number six, Seattle. Back to back to back drafts that I like. They are going to rely on that run game. They upgraded their offensive line. Their defense will be in the second year under Mike McDonald. The early schedule is pretty easy for Sam Darnold who I do believe is a better version of Geno Smith. He's a better athlete, can be a bit reckless, but he's a west coast kid. I think he's comfortable. I think they upgraded offensive coordinator so I just think there's a team if, if Jackson, Smith and Jigba can become a number one wide receiver. I like their backs. I like their O line. I like, I like their secondary. There's not a lot about Seattle I don't like. And if Stafford, by the way, did not play much this year, I already have them winning the division. That could be two wins. Number five, Kansas City. Listen, the last two seasons they've been number 15 in scoring offense. All right, so they're getting old at tight end. Chris Jones is not getting younger. I really like the hierarchy of the franchise, but they're not going to go 11 and oh and one score games. The division's tougher. God, if they could go. If they could go 8 and 4 in one score games, you'd feel great about it. But I think they're built for the postseason. Great coaching, great quarterback, old weapon. But I think they'll get dinged up in the regular season. I have Kansas City. They're still waiting on that Rasheed Rice. News on the suspension. That doesn't help because I thought he developed into a volume number one wide receiver. Maybe a lower tier one, but a one. I have him at five. Number four, Broncos. Listen, they didn't just add players, they added elite players. Drake Greenlawn, Evan Ingram, Hu Funga at safety. Last year's defense was good and aggressive. Why would it go backwards? So again, Bo Nix in a second year I the O line is rated number two according to PFF in preseason. So last year caught us by surprise. This year, all their good young players are a year older in the system of Sean Payton. I have Denver at number four, number three, Baltimore. And they're going to win 75% of their games with Lamar Jackson. Number one. Total offense last season, top 10 scoring defense. They do everything well. I mean, they really do. They can throw it, they can run it. Special teams defense, culture. I think it's probably the best run organization along with Kansas City in the National Football League, maybe Philadelphia. But what don't they do well? Well, they don't win a lot of playoff games. Okay, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, now Sean Payton and Harbaugh. It's hard in the afc. I have Baltimore at three, number two. But I think the world's best football player is Josh Allen. I'll put buffalo at 2 also. Buffalo in their division should go 2 and oh against Miami and 2 and O against the jets and should be a much better team overall than New England. I think they come in with a better seed. James Cook is wrapped up. I think he's a really, really good running back. I don't know if John and I have talked about this. James Cook quietly has become a really nice running back and a weapon. I think they've drafted well. I don't think their roster is overall as good as Baltimore. I don't think it's overall as good as Philadelphia. But I think their quarterback is able to do things to extend plays and elevate teammates that nobody else in the sport can do. I have Buffalo at two, number one. Listen, not only was their defense number one last year, I looked it up this morning. It was the youngest defense in the league and the cheapest. So they do everything right. I. I don't think they're as good at quarterback. I think when you can force Philadelphia to play from behind and you can force them to throw, they're not as dangerous as a Buffalo is forced to throw or a Kansas City is. But again it's they do everything well. They GM well, they quarterback well, their line plays incredible. Saquon Barkley has just been jet fuel to an uber talented roster. So there is my herd hierarchy, a couple of teams. Where are the Chargers? I think the Rashawn Slater injury is a real problem. They are a Joe Alt twisted ankle from being in real trouble up front and I still don't trust their receiving core outside of Lad Monkey. So I have them at 11, Bengals at 12. With that, Albert Brer joins us and he is joining us live. Let's, let's touch on the Matt Stafford thing. So Matt Hasselbeck said, listen, when you get old, back injuries are a problem. You can overcome a lot. This thing looks, I mean I know the Rams do a good job like the Patriots did to hide bad news. Like, like what's the feel around the league on Stafford and the Rams? Is it worse than they're letting on?
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Albert Breer
Well, I think there's like some teams that are look at the Rams now with a little bit of an arched eyebrow based on all the things that you just said. As for the Rams themselves, the vibe I've gotten is that like whether it was 80, 85, 90%, like during training camp, like they just weren't going to push him out there until he was 100% and they felt like because of all the damage he's taken over the course of his career that there are only so many bullets left in the gun. They also felt like having Jimmy Garoppolo on the roster gave them a good amount of flexibility in that they could go and run their, their offense in practice without a hitch while again saving those bullets that Matthew Stafford only has a limited amount of. So that's the approach that they've taken. Like they felt like the last couple of weeks if we have a game tomorrow, he's playing. But it's not worth, you know, it's not worth putting those miles on his body at this stage of training camp, at this stage of the summer.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
And so I think they go forward now in ramping Matthew Stafford up for the season. Obviously the setback a week ago wasn't great news and it should have everybody's radar up. But Matthew's been through this before. He had the elbow, he had the wrist. Those were very troublesome injuries for, for a quarterback. This is a troublesome injury for any older player and you just see if you can manage it over the course of the year.
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Colin Cowherd
So John Middelkoff said by naming Daniel Jones the starter, and Shane Steichen said it's not a short term move. It's kind of like he surrendered on Anthony Richardson. Like we gave it a run. Yeah, that's what it feels like to me. What is your take on the move? It doesn't sound like it's just week one and two. It's like the decision by the franchise.
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Albert Breer
Well, I think if they were going to build that in Colin, what would have made more sense is you go to Anthony Richardson knowing you can go to Daniel Jones, right? Like, if you go with Daniel Jones from the start, I think it's much harder to go back to Anthony Richardson based on all of the history there. And look, I think that one play, the play that he got hurt on, nobody wanted to see the result that the Colts got right. Like, but that one play was sort of a micro, microcosm of the problem with Anthony Richardson in that, like the awareness, the ability to run the offense at a high level. It just hasn't been there with Anthony Richardson to the level where Shane Steichen wants it. And on that particular play, he should have been able to recognize what was in front of him. He should have been able to recognize he was hot. He should have gotten the ball out to the flat and he did none of that. And he exposed himself to injury. He exposed his team to a loss of yardage, a loss of down, and that's the stuff that they've been trying to eliminate the entire offseason. It's actually interesting if you look at the Colts last year, right, they were 29th in total defense and they were 30th in giveaways. And they felt like if they could clean those two things up because they had won eight games despite all of that, they could have a playoff team this year. So they bring in Luannarumo to change the face of the defense they spend on defense. They went out and got Trevarius Ward and can buy them to help their secondary, you know. And then on offense, the idea is we got to be way more better at taking, way better at taking care of the ball than we were in 2024. And so I think they feel like Daniel Jones, his ability to operate the offense, his ability to protect the ball was just at a higher level right now than Anthony Richardson. And there are jobs on the line there this year. So they felt like for the team they have right now, Daniel Jones was the better answer.
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Colin Cowherd
So, I mean, you've been to 23 training camps. What was though, And I assume the Bears were One of the. Was the Bears one of those camp? Okay.
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Albert Breer
Yep, the Bears are one of them.
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Colin Cowherd
It's so interesting. You probably went from quiet, pensive Green Bay down to the circus in Chicago by a 40 minute train ride. What was the Bears camp like?
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Albert Breer
I think there's a lot of, I would say just a lot of curiosity about where Ben Johnson was going to have that offense. And I think for a lot of people coming in, if you didn't know what Ben Johnson plan was, you would look at it and be like, holy crap. Like, this does not look the way that it's supposed to look. And, and to be fair, like the day I was there, Caleb Williams looked terrible. There's no better, there's no sugar coating it. I mean, the first ball he threw was a throwaway that landed 5 yards inbounds. A couple plays after that, he threw it out to the flat. No one was home. So then you ask around about, you know, what their plan is and what they're trying to accomplish and what Ben Johnson and his staff were trying to do with Caleb was let's feed him through a fire hose in the spring and then early in training camp and let's see what he can handle and let's see what he's good at and let's see what he's not good at and let's see how he learns, let's see how he takes those early lumps and is able, is able to compartmentalize them. And then over the course of camp, the hope was that they would get a more resilient player who's playing faster. And as coaches, they would get a better idea of what he was best at so they could build an offense based on that. And I think you saw the result of some of that on Sunday night. Now, look, Buffalo wasn't doing a lot defensively. They had their backups out there, so it has to be tempered. But I think what you saw was a Caleb Williams we really haven't seen, maybe even going back to college where he's playing fast, he's playing on time, the ball is out, the plays are run in a fashion where everything looks coherent. They know he can put on the cape and be Superman. The idea is like, how do you balance that with running an actual NFL offense? And it's a process getting a player like Caleb there. And I think the evidence we saw, especially with some of those throws, the tight ends to Loveland and commit down the seam, I think would indicate that Caleb's playing a lot faster than he was last year.
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Colin Cowherd
So I think sometimes you go into a season and, you know, you're not a Super bowl team, but you have to figure things out before next year's free agency, the trading deadline in the draft. So I have argued, you can start Russell Wilson, but I want to know by Thanksgiving, can Jackson Dart handle cold weather? Can he go on the road and win? He had three years, Elaine Kiffin, so don't tell me he's not ready to play. Three years, Elaine Kiffin in a camp with Brian Dabel. That's hard coaching. I would play Jackson Dart pretty early. From what you've been around, the Giants is quarterback one set in stone. Because next year's draft, I mean, you start looking at it. Yeah, I did last night. There's like four quarterbacks that could go top 10, 12 picks.
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Albert Breer
Nussmeier, all our sellers large, potentially. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, so what do you. What is the kind of quiet, covert game plan at quarterback for New York?
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Albert Breer
So Jackson Dart has checked every box and everything that they thought they would have with him has come to fruition. And so everything they put in front of him, he's handled. He's also shown a certain presence in moxie for the position that you hear about, but you don't really know until you have him in the building. And they had a lot of close connections to Ole Miss, right? Like the offensive coordinator at Ole Miss is Charlie Weiss Jr. And who's Brian Day Ball's mentor is Charlie Weiss senior. So Joe judges on that staff. Obviously, still a lot of people in the. In the Giants building. Still no are no Joe Judge, you know, so there's a lot of connections there. That part of it's checked out as well. So I think what we're seeing here in the preseason is a manifestation of what they're seeing in camp, which I don't think changes their week one plan, but I think it does mean the leash is a little shorter on Russell Wilson. In other words, it was do we registered him? Is he ready to play now he looks a little more ready to play. If we're 03, if we're 1 in 4, do we start to look at our options? I think that's where you put yourself right now. If Russell Wilson goes out and wins games and plays great and they win 11 or 12 games this year and gets the playoffs, then maybe you don't see Jackson Dart. I just think there's going to be a little less patience of the Giants stub their toe now because of what they know, because of what they have in the Bullpen.
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Colin Cowherd
So Joe Burrow said yesterday, you listen, we. We tend to sign our guys right before the season. Once again, Burrow being reasonably honest, which I appreciate. Is there a team lurking out there? You wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear in 10 days we have a major deal and the Bengals get four picks for Trey. I mean, that's the kind of thing where Cincinnati would go, oh, good, inexpensive players draft. I mean, their defense is atrocious without Hendrickson, but is there a team that you think is kind of sniffing a little bit? And I mean, I always look at Philadelphia, but I don't think they need it.
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Albert Breer
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Is there a team out there?
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Albert Breer
I. I'd be surprised. And I. And I say that with all due respect to Trey Hendrickson as a player, and I think this becoming news over the last few days is probably a little bit of an acknowledgment of that from the player side and wanting to try to provoke something to happen here, some sort of offer to come across here. I think the amount that Cincinnati is asking for in addition to the contract is part of the problem, right? It's a pick. It's a really good defensive player. And then, of course, you've got to, you know, give them the contract. And here's the thing, Colin. If I'm another team, right, like, let's say I'm a contending team, because you would assume only contending teams are going to bring in a player of this age. If I'm a contending team and Cincinnati asked me for a premium draft pick, which is going to be young player on your roster next year and a really useful defensive player this year. So now you're taking that player out of your defense and adding Trey Hendrickson, and now you're paying a guy who's 31 years old, whatever it is, 35, 36, 37, 38, $39 million a year, like, is that worth that? You know what I mean? Like, is it? So, in other words, if is Hendrickson going to be that much better than the player you're taking out of the equation to take on the contract in the age. And I just think it's really hard to thread that needle when you're talking about finding a trade partner here. And the Bengals view themselves as a very real contender and rightfully so. And so, you know, they're looking at it as well, like, the picks are nice, but the picks aren't going to help us this year. We need something that's going to help us this year. So I Don't know how much they're going to move off the idea that they want a really good veteran defensive player out of this, too. So I just. It's hard for me to see where all those pieces come together.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I don't have the camps you went to in front of me, but I know that Cleveland sounds like you went there because you could sneak a day over in Columbus and twice. I bet you did. You know, Columbus is right around the corner. You get a little sneak peek at your alma mater. So, I mean, listen, I'm not watching film. Flacco is my starter. I'd move Kenny Pickett. I've said this for months and then let the two guys stay on the roster. It's getting this. It's starting to feel like Tebow, like. Like it's getting into the, you know, and I've said this. Nobody wants a celebrity backup quarterback. Nobody in this league wants it. People will deal with a young celebrity star quarterback if he's, you know, if he's really talented. There's a story today they may keep all four quarterbacks. Really? What do you make of that?
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Albert Breer
I think it's. I think it's going to happen. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And you're right, Colin. Like, I think a big piece of this. And we went over this with, you know, with Colin Kaepernick, with Tim Tebow and a number of other quarterbacks saw their careers end a little prematurely, I think, like Cam Newton's in that category, Jay Cutler's in that category because it was hard for people to envision them as backup quarterbacks. Coaches want their backup quarterbacks to blend in with the furniture, to be a resource to the starter. You know, so obviously, like, you know, having a fifth round rookie that has a celebrity that sure has flies in the face of all of that. I think right now what Kevin Stefanski is trying to do is he's trying to serve the roster that he has right now. Have you looked at the first six games in their schedule, Colin?
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, I can look it up. Is it rough?
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Albert Breer
It looks like. It looks like Owen. Six is staring you in the face, right? Like, so you look at that schedule and then how are you going to look guys like Miles Garrett, like Denzel Ward, like Joel Batonio in the face if you're not giving them the very best answer you can at the quarterback position, like, you can't, if you're Kevin Stefanski, go into the season with somebody who's far lesser than the best player on your roster at the most important position on the field. And I think that's what Joe Flacco is right now. Joe Flacco gives them the best answer right now. I think if you look at the way they set up the quarterback competition over the course of the summer, they felt like coming out of the spring, Kenny Pickett was really the only one who had a chance to challenge him. And so you go into the season, you have that six game stretch with Joe Flacco as your quarterback. You have the buy a couple weeks after that. And so like then I think maybe you reassess if things have gone off the rails because again, like looking out into your locker room at the beginning of the year and giving them a rookie quarterback who the locker room isn't quite sure can play instead of Joe Flacco, that's a really tough look for a coach. Now if you get to 1 and 7 or you're 3 and 8 or you're 4 and 9, that's a different deal altogether at that point. Like, players know the score, but you know, for the here and the now, the idea is to give them the best answer to win right now and, and, and a guy who's going to give them the best chance to succeed individually and as a team. And very clearly that's been Joe Flacco.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, it's funny, we took this morning, I took the Bear schedule and I said, I'm going to be optimistic. I'll give you a split, I'll give you a split, which they never do. They were one in five in division last year. I'll give you a split with Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit. I'm going to give you the go either way. Games like the Giants at home, Steelers at home, I'm going to give you all those, I'm going to give you wins in Las Vegas. I thought it was incredibly optimistic. I mean they don't split their division very often. They went one in five last year. They're a home dog to Minnesota in week one. And I went through every game and then I said, I took a bunch of games. Like I said, listen, you're not winning at Baltimore, you're not winning in San Francisco, you're not winning. Probably in Philadelphia. I had a few not winning and I got to 9 and 8 and I thought that was really optimistic. If you look at that schedule. And that's why I said, yeah, happiness is connected to expectations. If 9 and 8 and Caleb Williams, you got the right coach and the right quarterback. Take it. Now you look at this schedule, I mean, there's some non winnable games there at Philly, at Baltimore, at Green Bay, at San Francisco. Those are tough games for a rookie coach. What do you see when you look at the Bears?
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Albert Breer
Well, it's indicative of the division in general. Like last year you had a 15 win division champion and a 14 win wildcard. I don't know if that's going to happen again with the draw, the division, the division got in general and the Bears obviously are in the midst of that. And you would think with the strength of this division just on its own, in a vacuum, with the Vikings and Lions and the packers all coming back as playoff teams, there's a chance that they cannibalize each other to begin with, which is going to, I think like look, all four of them aren't making the playoffs, you know, based on the schedule and based on the, the balance in the division. So like, I think what's fair to look at for the Bears is are they ascending at the end of the year? Did the offensive line come together? They spent a lot of resources and bringing in Joe Tunney and Andrew Dahlman and Jonah Jackson. How does the defense look like, how does defense look under, under Dennis Allen? Obviously that was a strength in their Matt Eber flu and you hit the biggest one which is Caleb. Is Caleb Williams ascending going into year three? If the Bears are at 7 wins, 8 wins, 9 wins and Ben Johnson is starting to show signs of being the mastermind that he was in Detroit and you're going to be able to watch and see some of the schematic stuff they're doing. Is that stuff starting to show up and is Caleb getting the ball out on time and is he putting the Superman cape on when he needs to put the Superman cape on and not at other times? Right. You start to see a combination of those things at the end of the year and I think you can be really happy with the season. I don't view the Bears as this sort of team that like where it's like, okay, well if they don't make the playoffs then we need to take a really hard look at things. But like based on the makeup of their roster and where they've invested, I do look at it like that should be a team that's ascending at the end of the year.
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Colin Cowherd
Albert Brer, 23 camps as good as anybody that does this. Good seeing you, buddy. All right.
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Albert Breer
Thanks, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
You bet. Great stuff. Great information today. Have you watched John? Have you watched that? I'm getting a peek of that Cowboys thing.
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Dan Beyer
I need to fire it up.
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Albert Breer
Is it, is it out tonight?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it, well, it, it's, you know, it's one of those streaming ventures. So you can, you can go back and watch it. If you don't watch it the night it comes out. Very interesting. Jerry gets very emotional. He's a very, you know, he says he likes the pain, which is, I don't, I'll be honest, I don't love pain. I have very little pain tolerance.
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Albert Breer
Totally agree.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, I've called in sick because I jaywalked the day before. Like, I'll just, you know, not show. So it's interesting. It is a, it is. Jerry likes being on camera and Jerry likes the pain and he has created lots of it in recent years. Fun stuff to think about.
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Colin Cowherd
Picture this.
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Colin Cowherd
Legend in a bottle today. Cheers to that.
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Colin Cowherd
There's a lot of stuff going on. I thought Albert Brer. A lot of things out there. Herd hierarchy. Today we may bring that back a little bit. Final hour of the show. Mark Sanchez stopping by today. John Midkoff with the news.
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Albert Breer
No, no, no, no.
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Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
This is the herd line news.
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Dan Beyer
There was a fight at Titans camp yesterday and it stemmed from a Cam Ward. He'd be the quarterback. A touchdown throw. After Ward threw the touchdown, he celebrated in the face of Jeffrey Simmons. Oh, Simmons retaliating and pushing Ward's Facebook or face mask. The offensive line jumped in to defend their quarterback. In a scuffle broke out. DB Jarvis Brownlee broke down. How the quarterback reacted to.
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Jeffrey Simmons or Cam Ward (Player or Coach)
You get that same attitude, that same confidence, that same edge each and every day out of those two guys, you know, they never change. So you know, that's what you expect.
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Albert Breer
But you.
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Jeffrey Simmons or Cam Ward (Player or Coach)
When it does happen with our quarterback, you know, we try to break it up as soon as possible, fix it as soon as possible. But for me, I feel like it's a great thing. You know, when you got great teams, man, brothers fight, you know, you never want to see your quarterback in the middle of those type of things. But when it do happens, you know, it just shows you the level of dog he got him. You know what I mean? Gonna take nothing.
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Colin Cowherd
First of all, Jeffrey Simmons is the last guy in the afc. Maybe I'd want to pick on you. Don't mess with Jeffrey Simmons. But by the way, Cam Ward's totally humble and respectful on camera, but it doesn't bother me that he. He's kind of feisty at practice. It doesn't bother me.
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Dan Beyer
I got a parallel for you. Remember last year, two years ago, Jaden Daniels at lsu, the def.
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Colin Cowherd
Terrible.
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Dan Beyer
And he carried them to nine wins. I mean, they were not a very good team. Miami last year, defense was atrocious. Cam Ward dominated. I see some similarities with the two. Not necessarily Jaden's a better runner than Cam, but kind of a gunslinger. Really good quarterback. I kind of like the Titans. I mean their team last year offensively, but specifically a quarterback could not have been worse. Yeah, I mean, Will Levis was an all time disaster. Their head coach is an offensive guy, Brian Callahan, his dad's there with him. Widely considered one of the best offensive line coaches. They have pieces on defense. If Cam Ward, obviously he's probably not going to be Jaden Daniels as a rookie, but if he can just be pretty good, who's to say they can't win seven, eight games after being the team that just drafted number one overall?
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, most people are picking Houston to win the division. And I trust CJ Stroud and Dico Ryan, but you know that that organization took a step back last year. So I that division, to me, there's a wild card spot there for the taking.
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Dan Beyer
I totally. I think Houston's the biggest divisional lock in the league. You can get it like +110. Love that. I do think the second place, the Colts, I mean, they just chose Daniel Jones. We know the Jags, you can never trust them. Titans just keep an eye on them. Another guy to keep an eye on, Trey Hendrickson. He's still in the middle of this hold in thing with the Bengals and there doesn't look to be an end in sight. According to Schefter, the two sides have an agreement for the duration of the deal and the average per year on the deal. But they are nowhere close to what many consider the most important thing when it comes to these NFL deals, guaranteed money. Do you believe the Bengals need Trey Hendrickson to be contenders?
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Albert Breer
Colin?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, I. In terms of value, he's the most valuable defensive player in the league. Not saying the best, always really good. He's the most valuable. This, this defense, I mean last night it's atrocious. Washington had huge runs.
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Dan Beyer
Can I give you a stat? Trey Hendrickson, he accounted for the largest percentage of sacks for any team, almost 50%. It was 48.6. The next closest in the NFL was Miles Garrett, who's going to the hall of fame at 34%. So there's a 14 percentage difference from one to two. That's insane. This guy accounted for 50% of the sacks. The team on defense won their personnel. You know, to me you can out scheme people offensively, defensively you need a combination of them both, right? Nick Saban's known as a genius, so is Belichick, Lawrence, Taylor, Vrabel, all the guys Alabama over the years. Like you can't just out think everyone on defense. You need the players and obviously they need Trey Anderson.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, totally agree.
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Dan Beyer
Last but not least, Arch Manning. The hype couldn't be any stronger. Obviously it's going to be the most anticipated game coming up against Texas on Fox. Number one versus number three. The hype is at an all time high. And a couple days ago former LSU coach Ed Ogeron made a visit to Texas, him and soccer boys and he said he's as close or maybe as good as Joe Burrow. As I've seen and I've never said that about anybody comparing Arch to Joe Burrow. Can Arch Manning live up to the hype?
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Colin Cowherd
Colin Although I don't think he can live up to the hype. First. Of all, of all the Mannings, he's the most athletic, he runs the best. His arm strength, from what I've seen, not an issue. And what blew me away, in a world of the transfer portal and the nil. Let's just talk transfer portal where everybody transfers. Marginal talents, transfer. He was the best quarterback Texas had Last year, not a peep. He could have easily gone to anywhere. Iowa, Louisville, anywhere. He could have gone to big programs and started. Now I'll just sit here a steward. I'll be, you know, Texas football above me. I can't say this enough. When you're not getting your way in life is when the truth comes out about who you are. If you're a dad and your son loses a game because of a bad umpiring call, how you react is who you are. They always say, alcohol's true serum. Losing is true serum. Everybody's in a good mood when their kid wins. And when you win, Arch Manning is a more talented quarterback than Quinn Ewers. I don't think it's going to be close. And he just sat there as a backup, and it's like, that is all I need to know about the maturity needed. Because he's going to go to a bad team. He's going to go to the Saints or Cleveland. And we've seen guys who aren't mature enough in those situations unravel. This kid's got it.
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Dan Beyer
To me, the intangibles clearly are not going to be the question. But on the field, in the sec, you know, to be the number one overall pick comparing to Joe Burrow, who had a historic season. We've seen other guys, you know, Baker Mayfield, Cam Ward, Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, they put up big, big numbers in college. So it's going to be interesting. The pressure is on at this program. I mean, a lot of people are picking Texas, rightfully so, to win the national championship.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I'll tell you another quarterback that's fascinating.
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Colin Cowherd
So he didn't, you know, his dad. As I've said, quarterback dads become pageant mom. Their heart's in the right place, but sometimes they get in the way. I was looking two days over the weekend, I was looking at quarterbacks in college. The wild card is that kid because I watched him last year at Tennessee. Now he did the opposite of Arch Manning. I'm not getting my way. I'm out. Could have been dad, but okay, so I don't love that at all. And he went to a program with less talent around him. But the two quarterbacks in college, I can't wait to watch everything. Arch Manning and Nico Iamaliaba at ucla. Keep your eye on that kid because we all kind of dissed him when he did that. And he did the opposite of what I think you should do as a. As a bat signal to NFL GMs. But that kid's also fascinating to me.
- [40:36]
Dan Beyer
But you talked about it earlier on the show with expectations. The expectations for Arch couldn't be any higher. And for the first time in a couple of years, Nico kind of gets.
- [40:44]
Colin Cowherd
To fly under the radar. He does. I mean he's in the second biggest football program in his own town in L. A. John Middelkoff with the news.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.
- [40:58]
Colin Cowherd
The how about that Albert Breer came out and said when I was at the Bears camp, Caleb Williams was awful. And I and I think that's part of it. That's the growing pains. Caleb's an ad libber, a freelancer. I think it's comp having watched him now is Brett Favre. He is, he is sometimes at his best in chaos, like literally at his best. But you can't live that way in the NFL. And that's what cost farve so many times in big games. He would just ad lib his way out of a win. Remember that in Minnesota, what he threw across his body, you're like, oh, bro.
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Albert Breer
Cost him a Super Bowl.
- [41:28]
Colin Cowherd
Cost you a Super Bowl. So I think that's his comp. He may not be as talented as far, but I thought it was interesting. Albert's like, yeah, I was there for a practice and I think you're going to get a lot of that with Caleb. I think you're going to get a lot of play like that. He's going to have really good Sundays and even in his good games he's going to have really bad plays. Like Joe Burrow had one last night. You don't get that much from Burrow. But here was Breer. I thought he was brutally honest on the, on the day he was at the Bears camp.
- [41:52]
Albert Breer
I think what you saw was a Caleb Williams we really haven't seen, maybe even going back to college where he's playing fast, he's playing on time, the ball is out, the plays are run in a fashion where everything looks coherent. They know he can put on the cape and be Superman. The idea is like how do you balance that with running an actual NFL offense?
- [42:12]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, we'll see. He also said again, he NFL, they're just the NFL really. And I said this yesterday. It's like being the head of Paramount Pictures. You know, you don't want bombs, it's okay to dirt a screenplay. It is okay to throw the ball out of bounds. You do not want negative plays. And these run around guys. Lamar was so fast. He didn't have a ton of them. But these run around guys that have lived in high school and college on just making stuff up up with a broken plan it turns to a net positive. It doesn't work that way in the NFL. Johnny Manziel it just doesn't work that way. So I just can't wait to watch it. Caleb Williams Year 2 Ben Johnson Open at home with Minnesota and yes, they are a underdog as a home team in week one. It's the Herd.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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- [44:17]
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- [45:50]
Colin Cowherd
Picture this.
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- [46:31]
Colin Cowherd
Legend in a bottle today. Cheers to that.
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- [46:41]
Dan Beyer
Thursday, the game's most historic rivalry takes center stage as Alex Bregman and the Red Sox take on Aaron Judge and the Yankees, where the Astros battled the Orioles. Check local listings for the game in your area. Thursday at 7 Eastern on Fox.
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Colin Cowherd
So, yeah, I used to. My wife used to make fun of me. We'd go out to eat dinner and I would always order chicken parm. And she's like, well, I could make that at home. And I'm like, yeah, I wish you would. I love chicken parm. And she was more experimental with what you know. She's the artist, the creative, and she would just order a bunch of stuff. And half the time she's like, I don't like what I ordered. And I don't. I've never gone to a restaurant and said, I don't like what I've ordered. I like my steak. I like my chicken parm. I like what I know, even if it's flawed or not, you know, exciting. I just watched the Billy Joel doc. I may watch it again today. I like Billy Joel. I like him a lot. I listen to his songs all the time on YouTube. Rolling Stones still tour, Ozzy Osbourne Performed up until the end. Even though Biden and Trump may be flawed, people like what they know. They don't like that new guy in New York. A lot of people, whoa, socialist.
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Colin Cowherd
But people, people, and I understand this, I like comfort food there. I, I'm a non traditionalist. But when the NBA schedule came out, it's a bunch of LeBron games and a bunch of Steph games. And I get it, those are the great Memory International guys. You didn't watch them in college. They don't have big personalities. And a lot of the young players, they're all through the league now. You can't have two or three stars together. The last, the last runner we had at that was the Heatles maybe, or, you know, Katie to the Warriors. Those, those days are gone. I mean, Phoenix tried to do it, but they were all a little bit too old. So the NBA came out with their schedule and a team I think is going to be great. The Orlando Magic, I mean, they got. They only have 14 games on television. That's significantly less than half of LeBron or the Warriors. But I understand it. The Grateful Dead, whatever's left of them, they're still touring. The Stones are still touring. And there's a reason for it. People want to go. They want to. They want to go. It may be a flawed band, they can't hit the high notes, but you know what you're getting. When Steph and LeBron play, you know what you're getting. And I look at this schedule and Adam Silver just signed a $76 billion, 11 year deal. You can criticize him, but the league's never had more skill. Everybody can shoot and drib. They just got a massive TV deal. You know, politically, sometimes people think they're, you know, they don't land right for all of America. Whatever. They got the bag. They don't care. It's up the networks now to make money on the broadcasting. But when I watch the Lakers and Warriors games, like, I don't think the warriors have a chance to win the title. I think the Lakers are a real long shot. I don't think they have the size to win a title. But I mean, I get putting The Knicks at 34 games and I, and I. They'll outrate. My guess is they'll outrate the much better team, the Oklahoma City Thunder. I'm surprised the Wolves with ant probably got so many games, but I mean, the Rockets, KD, Lakers, LeBron Warriors, Steph, Knicks, the lovable Jalen Brunson I think if Jason Tatum was back the Celtics would have more. But I mean I credit I credit the NBA for putting that many Nuggets Nuggets games on. They have 26 national Nuggets games. I love watching the Nuggets, but I understand that Jokic doesn't move the needle. I think he's the most gifted multi dimensional center of my lifetime. I mean I, I covered Arvidas Sabonis, he wasn't in his prime. Jokic is like Arvidus Sabonis plus a grade and a half and Sabonis was unbelievably gifted. But I probably have a few more maverick games in there to be honest with you. But again, they don't have a Cooper Flag to me is going to work immediately. Like I think Cooper Flag is going to get a number immediately. That's When's the last time we had a domestic product, a Duke Carolina guy you could not wait to watch as a rookie? I mean honestly, not many. So I think Dallas is undervalued. I think Dallas is my dark horse team to get to the NBA Finals. Man, I wish Tyrese Halliburton was healthy because I think Indiana is just a blast to watch. But I am okay with, you know, we like what we like, man, we like what we like. You'd think there'd be LeBron fatigue, but if he plays Steph on a Christmas day or a big game, it'll it'll get a huge number. Mark Schlerith, not Mark Sanchez. My bad. Mark Schlerith is going to be stopping by last hour. Best camp may have been the Broncos.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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- [53:14]
Colin Cowherd
Summer.
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Colin Cowherd
A nice tan?
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Colin Cowherd
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