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Colin Cowherd
Here we go. It is hour two. It is a Thursday. The Green Bay packers are three and a half point favorites tonight against the Washington Commanders. And I think I said in my Herd hierarchy, the most impressive team I saw in week one was Green Bay. Defensively, Micah only played 40, 45% of the snaps. I thought they got Rashawn Gary. I thought they opened up matchups for other players. I thought their offense looked good. I think Green Bay drafts so well, their wide receiver and tight end talent is exemplary. Whereas Philadelphia, we know they have a stack roster, but I thought there were running lanes that the Cowboys found. I thought both C.D. lamb and George Pickens separated from the especially C.D. lamb separated from his corner coverage. I thought Green Bay looked as good as anybody. And then there's the other side of the coin, Monday Night Football, where the Bears looked really bad in the second half, but until the fourth quarter, JJ McCarthy looked lost. And with that Greg Cosell joining us as he's done for a decade plus NFL Films 46 years. So listen, the layups weren't there. The overthrows were there. The one positive takeaway I had with Caleb, Greg, was that on that first series, a lot of underneath stuff. He didn't get lured into throwing the ball down the field with Brian Flores. He kind of took what they gave him. He moved. He made one nice throw to Roma Dunze, but it did feel like he wasn't seeing the field particularly well and he was missing on some layups. What did the film say with Caleb, Week one?
Greg Cosell
Yeah, and I think that's fair. And I think that early in the game it was probably by design that they wanted him to take checkdowns and if that was available to get the ball out. But I went through that tape pretty carefully. So what I decided to do, Colin, was to read a couple of things that I typed because that's what I do when I watch tape, I take really detailed notes. So here's what I said. A couple of things. I said Williams at this point in his development is not a refined or advanced anticipation thrower. Then I also said Williams at This point does not play with the needed clarity from the pocket that is demanded to effectively work through progressions and deliver the ball within structure and timing. And those things really showed up. Now, again, I'm watching this particular tape. I'm not making a judgment about his entire future, but he's got things that need to be clearly worked on. I'm sure they're working on them. He also has a habit. We've discussed this last year as well. He, he has a habit of climbing the pocket when there's no pressure. So what he does is he creates his own pressure. And the result of all of this is there's too many, what we call turndowns, throws that are there that he does not make. And in any given week, Colin, and you know this, can he make special plays? Because he has a great arm and throws a beautiful ball, although he missed a lot of throws with poor accuracy in this game. But he has a beautiful arm and he's obviously very mobile and can make plays outside of structure. But that's not the way you can live in the NFL as, you know, week to week.
Colin Cowherd
So J.J. mcCarthy, let's just take out the pick six in the first three quarters. What did he do in the fourth that could materialize the rest of the season? Because clearly he gained confidence. I, you know, you know what I said Monday or Tuesday, I said there's a little Baker Mayfield that he plays with great emotion. Michael Penix for instance, does not. He didn't. Michael Penix drops tua, doesn't play with huge emotion. But when I watched Baker and J.J. mcCarthy, when J.J. mcCarthy hit Justin Jefferson fourth quarter on the sideline, literally, his accuracy and velocity seemed to improve. He plays on the sideline after the game. He's a very emotional player. So what did he do in the fourth that you think he can replicate going forward?
Greg Cosell
Well, it's funny you mentioned that throw, that 17 yarder on the outcut to Jefferson, which was actually his best throw. It was a far hashed deep sideline throw, sitting on his back foot and driving the ball. But you know, watching that game, it made me think so much about the connection between the offensive coordinator and the quarterback because we're looking right now at Aaron Jones touchdown. That was a schemed play and it worked. So when a coordinator calls a play and the primary receiver is open and the play breaks down the defense the way you anticipate when you make the play call and the quarterback executes it, which is what you want, by the way, that's what every coordinator wants. Where do we give the credit? Is the credit to the coordinator? Is the credit to the quarterback? You know, executing well designed plays? Look what Sam Darnold did in Minnesota last year. And now JJ McCarthy will reap the benefits of Kevin O' Connell being one of the best in the league at being able to do this. Now, obviously you want your quarterback have confidence and feel like he can drop back and make those throws. But it always makes me think about the connection between the play caller and the quarterback.
Colin Cowherd
All right. Kansas City's a home dog to Philadelphia and if they lose their own two, and that means your chances of making the playoffs are about 12%. So we'll get to Justin Herbert later. I just want to, I want to talk Kansas City. And this has been like a year and a half. It's been about a year problem, it feels like to me. What are you seeing on film? Why does this offense, it's not as dominant on third down, it's less consistent. What do you see?
Greg Cosell
And again, I can't tell you the reasons because I'm not there. But what the film shows is they do not have any true structured timing, intermediate passing game. So it's a lot of quick rhythm, short throws. And it's Mahomes making Mahomes plays where he gets out of the pocket and either runs, which by the way is a significant part of their offense, his scrambling, or he gets out of the pocket and makes great throws as he did late in the game when he hit Brown. I think it was for 49 yards. And it appeared as if they might, you know, come back and win that game. But there's really not been, and this goes back a year, year and a half. Colin. There has not really been a structured intermediate passing game. I mean, they don't score a lot of points. They, the last two years I think they've averaged about 22, maybe 23. Their defense has been phenomenal. Their defense has been in the top five in points allowed the last two years. So it's been kind of an odd offense to watch, but we're all waiting because he's done it so many times for Patrick Mahomes to make special plays. And you know what? He'll make them. The question is, will there be enough of them now over the course of 17 games.
Colin Cowherd
I want to talk Green Bay. They play tonight. They host Washington, our field goal plus favorite. So they were, they were the most impressive team to me that I watched. Offense, defense, coaching structure. They have so many good tight end, wide receiver players that are not, they're still on rookie contract, so a lot of their young players are not yet entering their prime. They are so, so talented and so young. So let's start with Jordan Love. What's funny, Greg, if you ask most Packer fans going into the season, just Packer fans and you said, is Jordan Love great? I think it's very split. We don't quite know what he is. And my argument is he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He's got a live arm and live legs. There's a lot there to like. What does the film say?
Greg Cosell
Well, I think we know what he is and you've just kind of hit it. You're dealing with a quarterback that's probably in terms of physical traits now top 6, 7, 8 in the league for sure. And with more and more experience, he'll become better at understanding when he can make throws, when he shouldn't make throws. He'll play within the context of a given game. But it's funny, watching that tape, both sides of the ball, I was actually more struck by what Jeff Heffley did on defense. Now, it might be a totally different defense against Jayne Daniels than Jared Goff because they're different players, so we don't know that. But the thing is, they did as good a job as I can recall with what we call late coverage rotation, where the picture they showed before the snap of the ball and the picture they showed after the snap of the ball was so totally different. And not just with one guy where, oh, a safety move. I'm talking about with three or four guys moving, totally changing the picture. Now, as I said, Goff's a pure pocket player. It might be a totally different deal tonight against Jayden Daniels, but I thought Jeff Halfley did a great job with that. And by the way, they pretty much only rushed four all game, hardly any blitzing. So they. They generated pressure with their down four.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, and he only played about 45% of the snaps, so that'll probably get up to 65, 70.
Greg Cosell
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So that'll get up to probably 75% of the snaps tonight. Okay. Justin Fields played as well as he's played, but let's talk Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. So he. They don't have a great run game. I was kind of. Once again, this is the seventh straight year of the O line, but I. Was there anything watching Aaron. Let's talk Aaron. Was there anything that struck you about Aaron that impressed you, or do you think. I mean, he hadn't been good in openers the previous three years no, it.
Greg Cosell
Was an odd game and I'll tell you why. There were a lot of assignment mistakes by the jets and coverage, either assignment mistakes or the design of the play, but caused players to get out of position. So it was a tough game to make a true evaluation of Aaron Rodgers. I mean, he made a couple of really good throws, obviously, but they were just, you know, it was really well schemed offensively at times. And then the jets just had some mistakes that you can't make and it gave him a lot of pitch and catch throws. So just being honest, it was not a game where I came away thinking, good or bad, we know we can make throws. That's, that's not an issue. But in terms of, hey, did he look great? There are a lot of wide open receivers, so, you know, I think a lot of quarterbacks could have probably made the throws.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Okay, so now I want to go to a game that not a lot of people watched. But it was funny because I rarely can I predict a game to look a certain way. I can pick a winner occasionally. But I said Texans, Rams, the defenses are going to dominate each other. It's going to be incredibly low scoring. It'll. It'll be incredibly ugly. That said, I thought Stafford actually played well despite the fact their whole line was banged up. What did the tape say on Stafford? Again, the score doesn't tell the whole score story. What did the film say with Stafford against a great Texans aggressive defense?
Greg Cosell
Yeah. And again, Sean McVeigh is so good with his formations. His use of motions, the way he expands zone coverage creates voids and windows for Stafford. But Stafford, I mean, there's still not as pretty a thrower in the league as Matthew Stafford. And he made a couple of throws that were just big, big time throws and you need to do that through the course of a game. But they do such a good job overall with how they put together their offense. The motion, they use the tight end in what we call short burst motion to expand coverage and then they work the middle of the field exceptionally well. I mean, Stafford, look, you can always say if a quarterback's protected, he's going to throw the ball well, you know, to the best of that quarterback's ability. But if Stafford's protected because he's such an elite throw over the football, he can just make really big time throws. And he made one late in the game. A back shoulder to devonte Adams versus Stingley. That was as good as you're going to see.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, here's a guy. The numbers may not Impress you. But J. Mac and I talked about this. I was kind of blown away by Cam Ward. You had to watch the game, but he made a couple of throws, and I'm like, okay. Denver's pass rush may be the best in the league. It was a sea of orange on virtually every snap. I don't know. I thought Cam Ward seeing the field and accurately delivering the ball, considering the pass rush, considering the altitude, it's an opener. I saw a lot. I liked with Cam Ward.
Greg Cosell
I thought there were ups and downs, and I think the ball placement has to become a little more precise. You know, people got caught up in drops. There were really only three drops. You know, when you throw a ball and it hits a guy's fingertips, it's not a drop. But he. I thought he read the field pretty well. The one thing that he has to learn, and many young quarterbacks, this is not specific to Cam Ward. And by the way, I like Cam Ward, as you know. But one of the things he has to learn, because they actually did a really good job, the coaching staff, because particularly in the first half with their route designs, there are a lot of opportunities. He has to learn in the NFL what pressure is and what pressure isn't. Because in the NFL, there's more bodies around you than in college football. Colin, as you know. Because I know you watch a ton of college football as well. So a lot of quarterbacks, when they get in the league, they don't really have an innate feel for what pressure is. And if a body gets close, but it's not really pressure by NFL standards, they move and they break themselves down. And he did that a few times and lost some big play opportunities. And then he'll. One thing he'll for sure learn is you can't retreat backwards. He had a couple of times where he retreated backwards. You can't do that in the NFL. You know that maybe Lamar Jackson's the only guy that can retreat backwards. So I thought it was ups and downs, but overall, I thought he stayed in the game well. Like you didn't get the sense that he was overwhelmed by the game.
Colin Cowherd
But.
Greg Cosell
But he's going to have to, I think, increase his tempo, his mental tempo a little bit against the NFL, faster defenses. But I would say probably more positive than negative, but it wasn't outstanding.
Colin Cowherd
You know, there. There is a. I have always said this. I. I have always feel. I always felt that if the Ravens win, my gut feeling, if I didn't watch the game, which I would, of course, but my gut feeling would Be well. Lamar Jackson probably played pretty well, but if the Bills win a big game, I'm like, well, Josh Allen was Superman. But I'm told you say that that's a little bit of a myth, that their offense is all Josh Allen.
Greg Cosell
Well, it's funny because they made a decision last year that it couldn't be Josh Allen every week. It's tough to play that way, by the way, every week to expect your quarterback to be Superman and win every week. This game dictated that. No question. And in the fourth quarter, just the fourth quarter alone, Colin, he was 16 for 21 for 251 yards. That's the fourth quarter, but the game dictated that. But last year they made a conscious decision to be more balanced. And I don't remember the exact number, but in terms of run pass ratio, they were like second or third in the league last year in terms of their running game. So last year it was not the Josh Allen show unless a game dictated that. And obviously the game on Sunday night dictated that. And he made some big, big time throws. And what's really interesting about Josh Allen is he, he's developed this sense of understanding when he doesn't have to force the ball and when the game dictates that, hey, I've got to make throws. And you know, he's developed that with experience. I think this is his eighth year now and he's a very calm, composed quarterback. But this game demanded that he make throws. The throw he made to Josh Palmer on the final drive and then recognizing the zero coverage and hitting Coleman for 25 yards to make it a chip shot field goal, just two really good plays.
Colin Cowherd
All right, we're going to wrap it up with, with Justin Herbert. Let, let's start with this before the big play.
Greg Cosell
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
What have you seen now? What have you seen in terms of what is Harbaugh done to Herbert? Where it is absolutely better for Justin than what he had with Brandon Staley. Like what is Harbor Harbaugh done specifically for Justin?
Greg Cosell
Well, there's a lot that comes from Harbaugh and I'm sure Greg Roman because they play a lot with the fullback Scott Malak who was a D end in, in college. So they play out of 21 personnel, two backs, but it's a fullback, not a running back. They're really heavy on play action. I think they had the best play action percentage in the league this past week. Week one, they did a lot of that a year ago. And play action, particularly when the quarterback is under center to me is a much better Way to deploy play action than in the gun. They're now using more motion as a part of their offense. So there's a lot of factors that go into helping your quarterback get clear defined reads. And the play that I wanted to show, and this came from week one against the Chiefs. And this is such a really good example of the kind of things they do. And it was a chess match kind of play because when you play Steve Spagnolo and we can take a look at the play now, it was actually the touchdown pass to Quentin Johnston. So we can take a look at it. And here it is. This is the chess match play because when you play Spags, you get a lot of sort of zero coverage looks and you know you're going to get that. So you're going to see Herbert in the gun here. They're at their 23 yard line. It's going to be a two by two set to start. It won't stay like that. Okay, so what do you see? What does Herbert see initially? He sees two deep safeties, a two shell coverage. Now what's going to happen here and this is what I was talking about with the motion element. You're going to see Lad McConkey on the right side of the formation work across the formation. He's going to go in motion and they'll see what the reaction is. Now they're going to snap the ball before he gets all the way across. So we're going to freeze it and you'll see but he's going to get all the way across the formation. Now what's going to happen with the safeties because no corner runs with him. The safeties bump over. So now you're going to see the route combination. It's really a three man combination to the top of the field. The critical piece here is McConkey Works outside of Johnston. So what do you get now with Johnston? He's going to run an over route. But now because of the way the Chiefs are playing this, he's going to run his over route against the safety, Hicks. You'll take that any day of the week. They got exactly what they wanted. It's really kind of what we call zero coverage because there's no other deep safety here. So it becomes pitch and catch because you get what you want. Johnston, who can run and is big against the safety. So this is beautiful design, a great example of the chess match at work. And look, Colin, I think you'd agree, you know, obviously people talk about Herbert not winning, quote unquote, big playoff games. But in terms of sheer physical talent, you're dealing with a guy that's top five in the league.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no question. Greg Cosell, 45, 46 years at NFL Films, as always on Thursday. Thanks, Greg.
Greg Cosell
Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it.
Colin Cowherd
You know, we always, you know, throughout the course of a season people put top 10 lists at quarterback. And it was interesting to hear Greg talk about Jordan Love. He's like in terms of traits, arm size, movement, he's top five or six. So we've hit on Green Bay's hit on another quarterback. But we are getting to a point. If Cam Ward is as good as we think Bo Nix is working, I think Drake May will work. JJ McCarthy looked pretty interesting to me in the fourth quarter. Michael Pennix is clearly a starting quarterback in the NFL. The hit rates always been 50% of quarterbacks in the first round don't hit. But if you go to the last three big quarterback classes, it's about 75% and next year is another big class. And I think part of that isn't just the player. Some of it is. I think part of it is we have significantly better and more offensive coaching today than 15 years ago. The hit rate for first round quarterbacks, I mean, Jaden Daniels hit, I would say after the JJ McCarthy fourth quarter hit. Bo Nicks hit Pennix, absolutely a hit. Drake May didn't play well. I think he'll be fine.
Danielle Fishel
Hold on, Colin, I'm sorry, I just have to ask. I heard you say yes, they love Jordan Love in week one. But I thought I heard you say with traits and all this stuff, Cosell thinks he's in the top five, six among quarterbacks. Is that overall or just for certain things?
Colin Cowherd
No. Traits are size, mobility, arm. He's absolutely. I mean he's got a great arm and he's super athletic and he's big. His traits are and are not Josh Allen.
Danielle Fishel
Are we putting Jordan Love in like among the top 10 quarterbacks?
Colin Cowherd
For sure now in terms of traits?
Danielle Fishel
Traits.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, okay, okay. The best traits in the league are Josh Allen. Huge, huge arm, super mobile.
Danielle Fishel
Well, if he has just traits, Herbert's above traits.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, no, no. Mahomes has a huge arm. So does big enough the difference. Yeah, but you're talking traits in terms of athletic ability. Mahomes is more athletic. Justin's much more mechanical. That's an easy one. Every scout will tell you that Justin is still a bit mechanical. Mahomes is the opposite of mechanical.
Danielle Fishel
Mahomes and his dad bod. I mean, yes, mechanical, yes, but he's.
Colin Cowherd
Not Herbert can scoot. Yeah. But he is a mechanical thrower. Yeah, that's just what he is. Panicks, by the way, is. Is a little bit like when it was panicks. He is a pocket passer. Um, but he's not. And he's a fluid thrower. But in terms of traits, we're talking arm size, movement. Oh, I think Jordan Loves. Absolutely great.
Danielle Fishel
Interesting. Yeah, I like love a lot. But I almost wonder if we're going a little overboard off one week because remember there were a lot of questions about him coming in this summer. How good is Jordan Love? Well, we know he was hurt last.
Colin Cowherd
Year, but it's interesting to note at the end of last year, I think the numbers were. Was it nine touchdowns, no picks in his last four starts. There was something we talked about the other day. So he doesn't. One of the things you get with Jordan Love, and this is very rare. Aaron Rodgers had this. Mahomes had this where you get the risk he'll make those back shoulder throws. He'll make those throws where nobody's quite open. But you don't get a lot of interceptions with Mahomes. Sorry.
Danielle Fishel
Jordan Love got lucky last week against the Lions. Dropped interception big time.
Colin Cowherd
Well, well, but, but that lock. Remember, every quarterback has drop passes. Every quarterback has drop picks. If you look at Love's last 10 starts, he just doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. So who you just and is willing to throw the ball? Dangerous seam throws. I mean, he'll throw the ball into coverage. Don't get picked a lot.
Danielle Fishel
I know we're only hour two, but you got a take on tonight's game, a score. It sounds like you like Washington maybe.
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no, no, no. I like Green Bay.
Danielle Fishel
All right.
Colin Cowherd
Three and a half. I would take. I think it's a close game. I would say my take is it's 27. I would not. I would not bet the game. I think it's 27. 23 Green Bay.
Danielle Fishel
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
Danielle Fishel
So the over and the. I like that. I'll go 2414 Packers.
Colin Cowherd
Last eight. Jordan Love starts half a season in a good division. 11 touchdowns, no picks. That's not a small sample size. So I, you know, Mahomes was one of those guys. Aaron Rodgers in his prime would run around, make throws, throws into coverage. And Aaron wouldn't throw picks and Mahomes wouldn't throw. That's very rare. Usually you get the farve where big arm moving, but you get picks with it. Sam Darnold, again, really athletic. You get interceptions. Jordan doesn't throw them. I mean, just now, some of that's the floor. Some of that is, you know, just the structure and the coaching in Green Bay. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me, three time Pro Bowler Levar.
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Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?
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Yes.
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah, I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year and let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Tom Brady joining us, gonna be previewing that Eagles Chiefs game Sunday at Fox. Some games just feel big. That's one of them. J. Mack with the news.
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Danielle Fishel
Speaking of Feel big, Colin. Let's go to tonight's matchup. Packers and commanders. Jaden Daniels. Man, what a rookie season. And he looked good last week. I didn't think he looked great, but also running the football was very effective. One thing he hasn't done yet in his career is play at Lambeau Field. Tonight he gets a shot.
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Colin Cowherd
The history of Green Bay and everything.
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So I'm super excited to go in that stadium and be able to experience that.
Colin Cowherd
Well, he has not only delivered, but has surpassed through 18 games. Well, I mean, if you count playoffs, there's over 20i in my lifetime. I have never seen a quarterback this good this early. Not John Elway, which I vaguely remember, and not Andrew Locke, not Trevor Lawrence. This is the best quarterback through 20 games I have seen in my entire life. Poise, accuracy, mobility, smarts, leadership. He's number one.
Danielle Fishel
Wait, let me. Is it 20 starts? Because Patrick Mahomes sat out a year and then when he came in year two, he was unbelievable.
Colin Cowherd
Patrick Mahomes had Tyree Kill, Travis Kelsey, Andy Reid. He was, I would say, more dynamic in terms of great plays. But in terms of pre snap accuracy, fourth quarter, I, I mean, I guess, I guess second place would be Patrick Mahomes. But Patrick sat for a year. That's a fair comment. Patrick did sit for a year. So if you want to count that, we'd probably do Mahomes 1, 20 starts, Mahomes 1. I wonder what the numbers are. Mahomes, 20 starts. Jaden Daniels. Now Jaden again, bad roster. You know, defensive head coach, you'd have to count that. But I want, if you took the first 20 starts, Mahomes, Jaden Daniels, what do they look like?
Danielle Fishel
Yeah, obviously number three has to be Mark Sanchez who took the jets as a rookie to the AFC championship game.
Colin Cowherd
I remember.
Danielle Fishel
Yes, obviously. Real quick note tonight. I'm just telling you guys, if you're watching closely, keep an eye on this kid Cooper of the packers, the linebacker. I have a feeling, no inside information, that he's going to be spying Jaden Daniels. They will not let him get loose. And if you can keep Daniels in the pocket and contain, I don't know that they can win on the outside enough. Does Deebo Samuel scare you? He was good in week one, but I don't know that he scares you in terms of separation.
Colin Cowherd
And I like both Terry McLaurin.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Who signed late, and Micah, who was traded late. Watch them have an impact you know, in, in week one, we talked more Debo, watch Micah play much more, far more snaps. And watch Terry McLaren have a bigger week too.
Danielle Fishel
It's a great Thursday night game. What are we doing next, Colin? What are we doing? Oh, it's Josh Allen who did not have a great start to his career. I think 52% as a rookie throwing. But obviously he was tremendous in the Week 1 victory. Heading into Week 2, he'll take on my jets who have a tough run against him. And Sauce Gardner is looking forward to the matchup.
Colin Cowherd
Not at all.
Matt Jones
I don't really enjoy it, you know, you never as a corner, you never really enjoy playing against like running quarterbacks or quarterbacks that's capable of using their legs and stuff like that.
Greg Cosell
So.
Matt Jones
Man, I'm looking forward to it.
Greg Cosell
No, he's a competitor. He's a.
Matt Jones
These are.
Colin Cowherd
God, the advantage to playing. The advantage for the Buffalo Bills and the Baltimore Ravens and to some degree, like a Jalen hurts or a Mahomes, it's harder to play man to man defense. You're almost forced into playing zone because you can't have cornerbacks turn their back. So one of the great things about having an athletic quarterback, the big advantages, is you can kind of predict the coverage you'll see before the snap. It's very hard to play man to man against Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen.
Danielle Fishel
Josh Allen, we have a couple numbers for you. In the last three meetings with the Jets. Not great for my Jets. Allen is undefeated with nine total touchdowns and one pick. Now listen, the jets were a dumpster fire last year. They fired Salah. Whatever.
Colin Cowherd
A quick one. Allen's been great against the Dolphins, Patriots and Jets. That's not a Jets problem. He has dominated the division. Great.
Danielle Fishel
Against everyone. So you see the line. Six and a half. If I get a seven. If you want to give me a seven, I'm taking it. With the Jets. I do believe their run game which we saw against Pittsburgh, they're going to be able to run just like Baltimore did all over Buffalo. And keep this close. Quick note, Colin, the rookie that the jets drafted in the top 10. Memboo from Missouri, number one graded right tackle in football in week one.
Colin Cowherd
Wow.
Danielle Fishel
He was tremendous. And sometimes he was matched up against a gentleman named T.J. watt. Okay.
Colin Cowherd
He's very interesting. So the Ohio State left tackle is excellent.
Danielle Fishel
Simmons.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So this is not a small thing.
Danielle Fishel
Oh, wait, wait. You talk a Jets so fashion who went to Penn State. Penn State.
Colin Cowherd
Penn State, yes. But the jets now for the foreseeable future and for at least the next three to four years have elite tackles and are not paying them on a second contract. Yeah. So that's not a small thing because Justin Field does not have a big money deal with the Jets. So what it tells you is right now, if the jets play well. And I was more impressed with the jets than I was Pittsburgh despite losing. Folks, this is not a small thing.
Danielle Fishel
And they got a good young receiver.
Colin Cowherd
It does appear that the jets have foundational tackles if they want to re sign them for the next 10 years. And there's not. There's not seven teams in the league that can say that's a huge. And it's also an attractive thing. If you went the free agent route for a quarterback, an older quarterback. What did Tom Brady, when he went to Tampa, his whole thing was, I like the old line. You got to get a right tackle. Jason Light got Tristan worse. Matt Stafford came to. One of the reasons he came to the Rams, Haven Stein, right tackle. Andrew Whitworth left tackle. So I mean, that's one of the attractive things in the free agent market for quarterback. You can stay with Justin Fields, but if you went big game hunting, you can sell to a free agent. Older quarterback, foundational tackles.
Danielle Fishel
I like.
Colin Cowherd
That's a really attractive thing.
Danielle Fishel
The jets now have and they drafted the kid Tippman, the center from the Big Ten. He's been kicked inside because of injuries. Listen, young players. Jets have Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall, Braylon Allen. They've got a lot of young talent on this team. You know, like you said, the quarterback is the missing piece. Final story. Colin is the Dallas Cowboys. CD Lamb rough opener against Philly with four drops. George Pickens only saw four targets. Remember, he's in a contract year. A lot of people waiting for him to start chirping. He had three catches for 30 yards in the opener. Pickens has had some problems in the past, but he seems unbothered by the lack of targets.
Colin Cowherd
I'm not really worried about the touches, catches, all this stuff. I'm just trying to stay open for the team. Like I said, I'm trying to focus on like the first win.
Matt Jones
My mind says for the team, bro. Just getting us a win.
Colin Cowherd
That's what I want to feel first. So definitely getting us a win. Can I give you a prop bet to consider?
Danielle Fishel
Please do.
Colin Cowherd
Why don't you go look at the over under on cd. Lamb catches this week.
Greg Cosell
All right.
Colin Cowherd
What is Dak Prescott gonna do? He is gonna go. Dak Prescott is going to go big. The CD Lamb to prove don't worry about the drops, bro. This is what Dak Prescott does. Watch Dak Prescott Go heavy. 12 targets to CD Lamb.
Danielle Fishel
I like that. The only concern is the Giants pass rush could be a problem and I don't know if that means dump offs or tight ends, but I I like where your read is because Lamb, you know, he was lambasted.
Colin Cowherd
He's a great but and go look so we think very highly of the Eagles corners, do we not? We think highly of them.
Danielle Fishel
Well, speed is a question for him.
Colin Cowherd
But yeah, Ceedee Lamb had as much separation as anybody week one. So CD Lamb is getting open. He had a bad opener. I think he also had like seven catches. So he had a bunch of drops, but he had a lot of catches. Keep your eye on CD Lamb reclamation. He will be big in this game.
Danielle Fishel
I like it.
Colin Cowherd
J Mac with the news.
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Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should informative and entertaining and twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we have with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the day, the year and let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
Tom Brady last hour. So I have speculated that if Miami keeps losing, they can move Tyreek Hill and get picks. And I, Chris Greer, has been their GM for a long time Their roster is not good enough. I mean, if the Cowboys can move Micah Parsons, then, you know, Miami can move Tyreek Hill. And my takeaway is keep your eye on Philadelphia and A.J. brown. The last 20 games, nobody has run the ball more than Philadelphia. The soul of the offense is Saquon Barkley. The O line and Jalen Hurts. I would argue they use tight ends about as effectively as everybody else. So right now, Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts have come out to publicly say, I know he only had one target. We are very proud of A.J. brown for understanding it was just one of those kooky games where we didn't throw to a wide receiver. But one target to me, to A.J. brown feels very much like the Randy Moss New England Miami game. It's not about catches. They didn't even target him. So here is AJ Brown on Sirianni and Jalen Hurts, sending him flowers, saying, hey, man, we appreciate you understanding you only got one catch. Oh, I didn't like it. I'm not. Honestly.
Matt Jones
I mean, it's cool to. To.
Colin Cowherd
To make an example out of it, but I'm not in it for participation trophies. I.
Greg Cosell
I'm cool.
Colin Cowherd
I'm cool on that. I'm not answering.
Matt Jones
That's a setup question.
Colin Cowherd
I'm not answering that. I'm gonna be honest about it. I'm not answering that.
Matt Jones
But I'm gonna focus on myself. I'm like, my effort and what I do.
Colin Cowherd
So. And just remember, New England needs a number one. New England was slow, sluggish, and deliberate in week one. Offensively, Mike Frable has worked with AJ Brown, right? And remember, New England's a very young team, right? They're a pretty young team because they're going to, you know, the draft picks are going to play, so they're going to have a lot of young starters. What they don't necessarily need is draft picks, right? What they need is somebody that can come in and produce because that offense, Drake Mays, young, right, like young players are going to have a better chance to play for New England than a more established team with star players. So I think A.J. brown in New England is in play. I think A.J. brown and Tyreek Hill to Kansas City is in play. Greg Cosell came on earlier and said they just don't have dependable intermediate routes in Kansas City. Well, is that going to change? They didn't have them last year and Rasheed Rice is still five weeks away and Xavier Worthy is now hurt. So I. And again, if. If Dallas would give up Micah Parsons right before the season. Don't be shocked if A.J. brown and Nick Sirianni is saying all the right stuff. Nick says, oh, we're going to, we're going to get on the ball this week. There's no secret about we always want.
Matt Jones
To get the ball to, you know, 6 and 11.
Colin Cowherd
And we're always trying to. And so, you know, we'll do an even better job as coaches trying to.
Matt Jones
Make sure that that happens.
Colin Cowherd
But what I do think, you know.
Matt Jones
And that obviously starts with me, but.
Colin Cowherd
What I do think that we were on offense was very efficient.
Matt Jones
You know, the ball was moving forward consistently.
Colin Cowherd
I think what's also very clear is since last year's bye week, nobody has thrown the ball less than the Philadelphia Eagles. So remember, A.J. brown only had three receptions in the super bowl against Kansas City. This offense has changed. And they just doubled down on it because they just made a trade for Tank Bigsby, the power running back from Jacksonville. So it tells me that Howie Roseman and they went and got another receiver right before the season. So it feels like Howie Roseman, who is much more proactive than reactive, and they went and got Dotson last year as the A.J. brown drama was surfacing in the locker room. So it feels like to me, Howie Roseman, why is he making all these moves in mid August?
Greg Cosell
They.
Colin Cowherd
How do you. And by the way, why did he give up a fifth and a six rounder for Tank Bigsby? My first takeaway on that, a fifth and a sixth for a backup running back. Does Howie Roseman believe. Because I'm going to get a fifth and a six back if I move AJ Brown or more. That was one of those rare Howie Roseman moves. I'm like, whoa, dude, dude, dude, dude. And I know people who have negotiated with Howie. He, he likes to win the trade like everybody else. I thought a fifth and a six was, by Howie standards, more than gracious. Does he know he's going to get draft picks back? Just a thought.
Danielle Fishel
Colin, can I challenge you a little bit on this?
Colin Cowherd
All right, fine.
Danielle Fishel
So. So what do you.
Colin Cowherd
Let me.
Danielle Fishel
Let me just remind you, when The Eagles acquired A.J. brown, they got a first and it looks like a fourth round pick, 18th overall and 101st overall. And then they had to pay him and they got to two Super Bowls with him. Okay, what's a reasonable expectation if the Patriots called that? You think what it would take to acquire A.J.
Colin Cowherd
Brown second round pick?
Danielle Fishel
No.
Colin Cowherd
What?
Danielle Fishel
Come on, man. So the reason they got a offense.
Colin Cowherd
I have to pay him.
Danielle Fishel
Well, actually, he's. He's under contract. There's an out after 26. So he still has basically one year left before you can get off his contract. So you don't definitely have to pay him.
Colin Cowherd
I would give up. I would give up a second and a fifth.
Danielle Fishel
Okay, so the problem with the Eagles, if you lose A.J. brown, everybody is just going to play zone defense against you right now. You, you have to play a lot of man.
Colin Cowherd
Time out, Time out. I'm going to have two excellent backs. The best O line, a quarterback that runs. They use the tight end as effectively as anybody in the sport. Dotson, Donovan Smith. That is still top three in the league in offensive components. Devonte Smith is a one.
Danielle Fishel
Wait, did you say Dotson? Come on man, he's not. Devonte Smith is a one. If you mean by like one a 100 pound wide receiver, I don't know. He's a solid two. But I do think A.J. brown, like he can't. You can't play man defense against him. He is unstoppable against man because he's.
Colin Cowherd
So fast and strong. They are. They don't throw the ball to him. In their last two games, four, three, three receptions in the super bowl, one target.
Danielle Fishel
Well, the super bowl game script, they were up like three touchdowns most of the way.
Colin Cowherd
So I get that his. Since the buy, they throw the ball fewer times than anybody in the league, including teams with bad quarterbacks. I'll just say Bigsby's acquisition tells me they want to double down on the run game.
Danielle Fishel
Well, they do. Will Shipley, the backup who's good, had some kind of rib injury. He's going to be out for a minute. But Colin, I just. I don't even think they'd be number two in the NFC if you trade A.J. brown. I think they fall significantly. Like they acquired him and he was a linchpin to getting to two Super Bowls.
Colin Cowherd
If I said five most important Eagles, I would say Saquon 1. Hurts to Jalen Carter 3.
Danielle Fishel
Lane Johnson, maybe.
Colin Cowherd
I would say. Well, I would say the two tackles, four and five, I'm not even considering. And I would argue, I mean he's not a top five crucial player for them.
Danielle Fishel
Okay, so hold on. Last year he missed a game. I think it was the Tampa Bay game and they had no offense. They got smothered in Tampa like they need AJ Brown. Without him they are definitely not elite in the NFC. I'll. I don't even know that they're an 11 win team without maybe not even 10. He is that significant to them. And look what happened when he left Tennessee. They fell off a cliff.
Colin Cowherd
You know, Tennessee didn't have any Saquon Barkley. They didn't have Jalen Hurts. They didn't have that offensive line, A.J. brown. They didn't have Devontae Smith. Our three Tom Brady.
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Hour 2 – Greg Cosell Breaks Down Chiefs Issues and Eagles Moves
Date: September 11, 2025
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Host: Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts, The Volume)
Guest: Greg Cosell (NFL Films)
This episode features a deep-dive conversation between Colin Cowherd and Greg Cosell, focusing on crucial NFL Week 1 performances, quarterback evaluations, and the latest trends affecting teams like the Chiefs, Packers, Eagles, and more. Cosell provides expert film analysis, exploring why the Chiefs’ offense looks stagnant, what’s working for Green Bay and Jordan Love, and how quarterback development is being influenced by improved offensive coaching throughout the league. The two also discuss rumors and roster moves affecting the Eagles, as well as what various teams need from their stars to contend.
Comparing rookie QBs to Mahomes:
Importance of Offensive Tackles:
Advice & Prop Bets:
Williams’ developmental needs:
“Williams at this point in his development is not a refined or advanced anticipation thrower.” – Greg Cosell (04:52)
Chiefs lacking an intermediate game:
“There has not really been a structured intermediate passing game.” – Greg Cosell (08:44)
Jordan Love’s upside:
“Top 6, 7, 8 in the league for sure… In terms of traits.” – Greg Cosell (10:39)
Mahomes vs. Herbert in traits:
“Every scout will tell you that Justin is still a bit mechanical. Mahomes is the opposite of mechanical.” – Colin Cowherd (23:55)
Jaden Daniels’ emergence:
“This is the best quarterback through 20 games I have seen in my entire life.” – Colin Cowherd (32:13)
Howie Roseman’s strategy:
“Does Howie Roseman believe… Because I’m going to get a fifth and a sixth back if I move AJ Brown or more?” – Colin Cowherd (48:09)
| Time | Segment | |---------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:01 | Packers’ impressive Week 1, intro to Greg Cosell | | 04:40 | Caleb Williams detailed film breakdown (Cosell) | | 07:00 | McCarthy’s 4th quarter performance and schematic advantage (Cosell) | | 08:39 | What’s wrong with the Chiefs’ offense? (Cosell) | | 10:36 | Jordan Love’s traits and GB defense (Cosell) | | 12:24 | Rodgers recap—too many coverage busts to judge (Cosell) | | 13:47 | Stafford vs. Texans: McVay’s offensive structure (Cosell) | | 15:19 | Cam Ward assessment—needs to adapt to NFL pressures (Cosell) | | 17:24 | Josh Allen’s evolution as more balanced QB (Cosell) | | 19:07 | Justin Herbert’s improved environment under Harbaugh (Cosell) | | 21:48 | Wrap up with Greg Cosell | | 23:08 | Discussion: QB “hit rates” and improved offensive coaching (Cowherd) | | 32:02 | Preview: Jaden Daniels at Lambeau, QB through 20 games discussion | | 34:53 | Jets’ draft: O-line, long-term advantages (Cowherd) | | 38:50 | CD Lamb prop bet and “reclamation” game predicted (Cowherd) | | 47:13 | Eagles’ drastic drop in passing, A.J. Brown speculation (Cowherd & Fishel) | | 51:08 | Eagles’ core contributors, Cowherd ranks top five (Cowherd & Fishel) |
This summary delivers the key insights and context from Hour 2 of The Herd on September 11, 2025, aiming to keep non-listeners fully up to speed with football’s latest x’s and o’s and NFL drama.