THE HERD - Hour 2 - Herd Hierarchy, Bo Nix being compared to Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs dynasty is not ever, Nick Wright

Summary

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THE HERD with Colin Cowherd

Hour 2 Summary – October 21, 2025

Main Theme:
Colin unveils his latest "Herd Hierarchy" NFL power rankings—with lively debate from Nick Wright—and explores hot topics like Bo Nix’s fourth-quarter brilliance, the Chiefs’ continued dynasty, young quarterbacks' trajectories, running game’s importance, and a reflective discussion on LeBron James’ legacy management.

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Herd Hierarchy: Top 10 NFL Teams

(Starts at 04:37)

Colin breaks down his weekly top 10 NFL teams, offering detailed rationale and some pointed surprises. Notably, he demotes the Seahawks and questions the Bills' exclusion, while holding Kansas City firmly atop the league.

Top 10 Rankings & Key Analysis

• 10. New England Patriots
  “They don’t beat themselves. Four straight wins, top 10 offense, top 5 scoring defense... Drake May, I didn’t think he’d be this good this quick.” (05:00)

• 9. San Francisco 49ers
  Praises Kyle Shanahan’s resilience despite key injuries. “Nobody’s been as resourceful as Kyle Shanahan and the Niners.” (06:16)

• 8. Green Bay Packers
  “Jordan Love... 69%. You can't find anybody that likes him. Their run defense is excellent. They’ll get better.” (06:41)

• 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  Calls Todd Bowles underrated: “Probably the best blitzing coach in the NFL... multiple games with takeaways... I wouldn’t drop them too far.” (07:00)

• 6. Denver Broncos
  “Bonix when trailing this season: 11 TDs, no pick. Very Mahomes-like stat in the fourth quarter... Denver at 6.” (07:46)

• 5. Detroit Lions
  “Their run game jumps off the TV set. They get leads and then they get sacks... much better at home.” (08:10)

• 4. Indianapolis Colts
  “Been into the Colts for a month. Best outright record in the league at 6-1... Most efficient offense.” (08:32)

• 3. Los Angeles Rams
  “Not just Stafford and McVay. That defense is suffocating... Big plays, young defense, number 2 in sacks.” (09:05)

• 2. Philadelphia Eagles
  “They can’t run the ball anymore... There’s a French term for beautiful yet ugly, that’s the Eagles.” (09:54)

• 1. Kansas City Chiefs
  “I said it a month ago, this is as good as Kansas City’s been... Mahomes is playing at an absurd level.” (10:39)

On Seattle’s notable drop:
“I had them in last night when I texted Kyle on our staff and this morning I’m like, no, I’m disgusted. That was awful.” (11:15)

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Quarterback Debate & Bo Nix vs. Mahomes

(Begins at 11:31)

Nick Wright joins to interrogate Colin’s Bo Nix/Mahomes comparison and challenge some hierarchy choices.

Notable Exchange:

• Nick Wright: “Did you compare Bo Nix to Patrick Mahomes?” (11:53)
• Colin: “Who else could take a 19–0 deficit? Greatest quarter for a quarterback ever. I stand, I die on that hill.” (11:55)
• Nick: “You said he has 11 TDs when trailing, but he also has 11 TDs total. So, that would mean they've all come when he's trailing... Not great.” (12:06)

Nick critiques Denver’s inconsistency:
“13 points in the first 3 quarters combined of the last 3 games... then they've been elite in the 4th quarter of two of them.” (12:52)

On Bo Nix’s playing style:
“Nothing gives you more confidence if you're rooting against the Broncos than when Bo Nix takes a deep shot. But then late in the game, he's been good.” (13:09)

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Chiefs’ Dynasty Status Revisited

(13:29)

Nick revisits Colin's earlier eulogies about the Chiefs’ dynasty.

• Nick Wright: “Can we revisit that the dynasty phase is over?... Now I think you feel like the gap between them and whomever is second is about as big as Philly and... as 2 and 10.” (13:29-14:04)
• Colin: “Correct. Yeah.” (14:04)

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Bill & Seahawks: What’s Gone Wrong?

(14:11)

Colin explains the omission of the Bills and Seahawks from his top 10:
“They can’t defend the run, which is the worst thing... when you have a great quarterback... Seattle makes too many mistakes.” (14:11-14:52)

• Nick, defending Seattle:
  “I think you might be underrating Seattle... Mike Macdonald has been awesome... Jackson Smith-Njigba is a revelation.” (15:03-16:06)

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Young Quarterbacks: Caleb Williams, Jackson Dart, Bo Nix, and More

(16:06)

Colin and Nick dig into the developmental arcs of various young QBs, with focus on body language, situational frustration, and the “franchise QB” litmus test.

• Colin:
  “Body language matters... Kyler Murray... don’t always love his body language... Chicago’s run game is excellent... Watching Ben Johnson’s face and body language when Caleb throws an incompletion is borderline discouragement, bordering on disgust.” (16:06-16:57)

• Nick:
  “I’m a big Caleb [Williams] guy. I’ve cooled a bit... last few games that’s kind of been despite their quarterback play... that Saints defense, everyone threw well on them except Caleb, it seems.” (16:57-18:54)

QB “Franchise or Not?” Lightning Round:

• Jackson Dart: Yes (Colin)
• Kyler Murray: Yes, but time to move on in AZ (Colin)
• Caleb Williams: Yes (Colin)
• Bo Nix: Absolutely (Colin)
• J.J. McCarthy: “Never bought into that... doesn’t have the traits I was looking for.” (Colin) (38:21-38:32)

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Dak Prescott’s Big Leap & Dallas Discussion

(18:54)

Colin admits past misreads on Dak, praises his maturity, and Nick marvels at how Dak and George Pickens are exceeding all expectations.

• Colin:
  “With Dak Prescott—and I’ve said he’s Kirk Cousins with a star—I feel like it’s the ultimate ‘Colin was wrong’... All those pieces leave and Dak puts up huge numbers.” (19:54-20:24)
• Nick:
  “The Cowboys offense performing the way it did when CD was hurt was stunning... Dak being one of the most entertaining, high-octane QBs... If they just had the 19th defense, they’d be right there.” (20:24-22:18)

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NBA Corner: LeBron James’ Image & Authenticity

(22:18)

The segment arcs to legacy management, focusing on LeBron vs. Russell Westbrook’s personalities and public criticisms.

• Colin:
  “LeBron’s at brand protection legacy stage now... He’s protecting his empire. There is this rub that LeBron... is a bit too calculated...” (22:18-23:31)

• Nick:
  “Russ has a lack of self-awareness since he stopped being MVP-caliber... For Russ and his fans, it’s never Russ’s fault. As for LeBron: People have been trying more than any athlete of my lifetime to find some cardinal sin... Now what people have come down to is ‘I don’t like the cut of his jib and I think he lies about reading books he hasn’t read’ – give me a break.” (23:31-26:19)

• Memorable quote:
  “LeBron James has been the ambassador of this league for a quarter century... does not have a substantial misstep to his name.” (Nick Wright, 25:12)

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Comparing Bo Nix and Mahomes: Stats & Philosophical Divide

(26:25)

Colin reads off Bo Nix's college winning percentage vs. Mahomes.

• Colin: “Bo Nix’s college winning percentage was 70%. Patrick’s was 44.” (26:25)
• Nick: “Another piece of data that shows Bo Nix is nothing like Patrick Mahomes.” (26:34)

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Major League Baseball & Dynasties

(45:10)

Discussion pivots to MLB: Dodgers, Yankees, and dynasty definitions. Colin lauds both the Dodgers and Chiefs for adaptability and not letting pride get in the way of solving problems.

• Colin:
  “If you win as much as the Dodgers have... and can win back-to-back, that's a dynasty... The Dodgers never get in their own way. Chiefs never do. Everybody makes mistakes. The key is: move off mistakes; be nimble.” (45:10-48:06)

• Dave Roberts (Dodgers manager):
  “We’re in a big market. We’re expected to win... Our ownership puts it back into players... I think we do as good a job as anyone.” (47:37)

• On best-run franchises:
  “The Dodgers are the best-run sports franchise in North America... It's not just the money—Yankees have it, they don't spend it smartly.” (48:06)

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Rapid Topics & Other Highlights

• On the growing importance of the running game:
  “Teams running the football consistently: Detroit, Seattle, Chicago... Here comes the crappy weather, here comes the bad weather... Now you have to have a run game.” (34:47-35:15)

• On Max Crosby trade rumors and NFL trade deadline philosophy:
  “I don’t like giving up the soul of a franchise. Max Crosby is the Raiders. Micah was not the Cowboys—Dak is. Jerry’s the Cowboys… Anyone making a big swing that’s not a Super Bowl team at the deadline should be selling.” (39:39-40:53)

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Memorable & Notable Quotes

• “[On the Eagles] There’s a French term for beautiful yet ugly. I think whatever that term is, that's the Eagles.” (09:54, Colin)
• “[On LeBron] The guy has been the spokesman, the face, the ambassador of this league for a quarter century. ...not a scandal on or off the court.” (25:12, Nick Wright)
• “[On Bo Nix/Mahomes] Bo Nix’s college winning percentage was 70%. Patrick’s was 44.” (26:25, Colin)
• “Move off mistakes; be nimble. That’s what the Dodgers and Chiefs do.” (48:06, Colin)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:37 – Herd Hierarchy Power Rankings
• 11:30 – Nick Wright joins; Bo Nix/Mahomes debate
• 13:29 – Chiefs Dynasty revisited; Bills & Seahawks excluded
• 16:06 – Young QB evaluations (Caleb Williams, Dart, Bo Nix, etc.)
• 18:54 – Dak Prescott analysis, Cowboys talk
• 22:18 – NBA: LeBron’s legacy and Westbrook discussion
• 26:25 – Bo Nix vs. Mahomes winning %
• 45:10 – Dodgers, MLB dynasties, organization management

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Tone & Takeaways

Colin’s tone alternates between passionate, analytical, and occasionally self-deprecating. Episode is rich in data, analogy, and strong opinion—as always sparking energetic debate, especially with Nick Wright pushing back on his boldest takes.

This episode is essential for fans invested in the evolving NFL landscape, franchise-building philosophies, and debates about “dynasty” in modern sports. The QB-centric discussions and comparisons (especially Bo Nix vs. Mahomes) are must-listen highlights, as are broader reflections on leadership from LeBron to Dave Roberts.

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Transcript

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[Colin Cowherd]

All right, here we go. It's hour two. It is great to have you back. I'm not in the greatest mood. The Seattle Mariners, for most of my life, have been knocking on the door of history, sports. And a lot of times, nobody lets them in. And last night, I was just defending major league managers like they get eaten alive. Dave Roberts is always getting criticized, but we've muted the power of major league managers. Right? The analytics guys upstairs make a lot of the calls. They don't get as much money as they used to. I mean, think about, like, when I grew up with, like, Whitey Herzog and, you know, these guys had Billy Martin, had big personalities, Earl Weaver. It was like they were the most important guy in the entire organization. That's not the way it is anymore. So I tend to defend major league managers, but I did think Dan Wilson. I mean, listen, he pitched to George Springer. I would have put him on base, but Vlad Guerrero was coming up in a couple of batters. It wasn't ideal. I would have gone with Munoz because to me, that George Springer at bat, that inning was the biggest inning in Mariner history. That was the biggest inning in Mariner history. If you can get out of that one and you can get past Springer and you can get past Vlad, easier part of the lineup coming. Munoz is your guy. So, you know, whatever. You can second guess managers all the time. I tend to defend major league managers because they don't have the pull and the leverage they used to. But that. That was. That was dicey. But again, Dan Wilson, a former catcher, super smart guy, knows it better than anybody else. But that was something else. All right, here we go. It is Tuesday. Here's the herd hierarchy.

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Herd hierarchy.

[Colin Cowherd]

Time is now.

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Let's go.

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The top 10 NFL teams according to Colle. Number 10.

[Colin Cowherd]

I put them in this morning. I bounced the Seahawks out because after those four giveaways, I. I just can't trust Seattle. Seattle's 11. I put New England in at 10. They don't beat themselves. Four straight wins, top 10 offense, top five scoring defense. Mike Vrabel. This was our prediction. The team that would double their win total. We said it before the season. We had them as a playoff team. Their remaining schedule is the easiest in the league. Six straight games with 100 plus passer rating. I like Drake May. I didn't think he would be this good this quick. They feel like a one and done playoff team. That's winning a lot on energy and focus and enthusiasm and Youth, but I put him at 10 and bounce Seattle out.

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Number nine, the Niners.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think Kyle Shanahan's in the running for coach of the year. No Brock Purdy, Brandon Auk, Ricky Pearsall, George Kittle, Fred Warner, Nick Bosa. But Robert Sal has been a monster as a defensive coordinator. They have the number seven scoring defense. They are very Christian McCaffrey dependent. 30 touches or 31 touches, don't love that. But they're kind of trapped. Six of their next seven games against very weak opponents. They should be favored in most of.

[Nick Wright]

Them.

[Colin Cowherd]

But I think Mac Jones and Brock Purdy feels a little bit like a wash to me. One's expensive, one's kind of free, but I think you got to put them in the list. Nobody's been as resourceful as Kyle Shanahan and the Niners. I put them at nine.

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Number eight, Green Bay.

[Colin Cowherd]

They keep leaving me wanting more. But they are undefeated when scoring more than 10 points this season. I just feel like I want more. But they've been a little banged up at wide receiver. Josh Jacobs, three straight games with multiple touchdowns. Jordan Love this year and nobody likes Jordan love and he's completing 69% of his throws and 108 passer rating and you can't find anybody that likes it. Their run defense is excellent. Micah is the perfect closer for a team that often leads in the fourth. I have Green Bay eight. I think they will get better. They're still really young.

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Number seven.

[Colin Cowherd]

I still like the Bucks a lot. I mean they were playing, you know, living dangerously, coming from behind and that was a buzz saw they ran into last night for their five wins one score games. But their defense, multiple games with takeaways. I just think they got playmakers. And again like the Niners, they've been incredibly resourceful. I've always thought Todd Bowles is underrated because he doesn't really have a profile. Probably the best blitzing coach in the NFL, Baker Igbuka. I think they're going to be fine when they get cleaned up and healthier, but I wouldn't drop them too far. I have Tampa at seven, number six. I love Denver's roster. I don't think their defense has been as good as I thought, but they lead the NFL in sack differential. They have the number one third down defense and the number one red zone defense. And yet I feel like they should be better. Bonix when trailing this season. A very Mahomes like stat. 11 touchdowns, no pick and a 102 passer rating. And obviously a great Head coach, Denver at six, number five, Detroit. Detroit's run game jumps off the TV set. They're five and one over their last six games and they got rocked by the best team easily in the league, Kansas City. Their defense takes the ball away, gets to the quarterback. What I like about Detroit is they get leads and then they get sacks and that's the way to win in the postseason. They're much better obviously at home, but I have Detroit thump Tampa last night.

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At five, number four, Colts.

[Colin Cowherd]

I've been into the Colts for a month. They should have beaten the Rams best outright record in the league at 6 and 1. They're only lost to the Rams and they outplayed them. Great offensive line, playmakers at running back, tight end, wide receiver, excellent head coach. Most efficient offense in the NFL. Most tied for the most touchdowns. I mean, Daniel Jones. I mean, it's like Dakota. We can say, well, he's not elite while I'm watching. And it looks elite to me. They've scored on 63% of their drives and I think they're absolutely for real. I've always said my final four teams are teams I think that can get to a Super Bowl. And I have the Colts at four, number three, Rams. It's not really just Stafford and McVeigh. That defense is suffocating. Now it may not be suffocating if they faced him a homes or you know, again, it may not be suffocating against the great quarterbacks, but men. Trevor Lawrence, good luck. They lead the NFL in big plays. No Puka, no problem. Number two scoring defense, number two in sacks. And remember, their defense is young. These guys, a lot of them haven't even hit their prime. Rams at three, number two. I don't even know if I liked Philadelphia. I honestly. They can't run the ball anymore. They don't get to the quarterback, but they have, I mean, let's be honest. Jalen Hurts wins a lot. Devonte Smith and A.J. brown, when they can't run, can take the top off. They're a hard team to defend and they're a hard team to figure out. They don't get to the quarterback. They've been out gained in every game. There's a French term for beautiful yet ugly. I think whatever that term is, that's the Eagles. But I love their roster and I keep just saying they'll figure it out. But I have them at two, number one and I think they'd get smoked if they played Kansas City. I said it a month ago, this, this is as good as Kansas City's been Hollywood Brown, juju Worthy Rice, Travis Kelsey. I mean, keep your eye on Burchard Smith. The offensive line hasn't been totally healthy. I think Mahomes is playing at an absurd level. I think this is as good. I'm serious here. I think this team, I do wonder at the trade deadline if they would go find like a situational pass rusher maybe. And they're not a great run team. They are so deep now at wide receiver. Here you go. My top 10. Seattle 11. I had him in last night when I texted Kyle on our staff and this morning I'm like, no, I'm disgusted. That was awful. Take him out. Seahawks 11, Bills 12. Nick Wright joining me live.

[Nick Wright]

I got something for you, Colin.

[Colin Cowherd]

Hold on.

[Nick Wright]

I was listening. I don't speak French, but let's see if I can do this in real time. Jolie Ladd is pretty yet ugly. That's what you were looking for. I googled it for you. There you go, pal. Pretty yet ugly. It sounds like your Broncos take. Did you compare Bo Nix to Patrick Mahomes?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

Did that happen?

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, who else could take a 19 nothing deficit? Greatest quarter for a quarterback ever. I stand, I die on that hill.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, so. All right. A few things that. Listen, it is remarkable what they've done and what he's done in the fourth quarter against Philly and the Giants. I am taking nothing away from him there, but I was too busy googling Jolie Ladd to fact, you said he has 11 touchdowns when trailing, but he also has 11 touchdowns total. So that would mean they've all come when he's trailing at least 11 passing touchdowns total. That part's not great. In the last I. The Broncos are really weird because their last three games, Philly, the Jets and the Giants, I know they have 13 points in the first three quarters combined of those games.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

And then they've been elite in the fourth quarter of two of them and they held on against the Jets. I don't. I still don't trust them. I think the defense is great. I think Bo. The other weird thing about BO is nothing gives you more confidence if you're rooting against the Broncos than when Bo Nix early in a game takes a deep shot. It's like, well, that's going to hit a ball, boy. They're just spraying out of bounds. But then late in the game, he has been good. So I. There is something there. You also. I. I want to talk about the Bills and the Seahawks, but can I just ask you one Question about the Chiefs.

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Sure.

[Nick Wright]

Just one? Yeah. Can we revisit a bit that the dynasty phase is over? Are we maybe still in the dynasty phase of my team? I had to deal with a lot of slings and arrows from you, my dear friend and professional idol and mentor, all summer that this was. You know, they'll still be good, but they're just not dynastic anymore, whatever it is. And now I think you feel like the gap between them and whomever is second is about as big as Philly and the. As 2 and 10.

[Colin Cowherd]

Correct? Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. I just wanted to hear it. That's all. That. Why are the Bills not in there?

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, first of all, they can't. They can't defend the run, which is the worst thing to be. When you have a great quarterback, you can have a bad secondary. You got to defend the run.

[Nick Wright]

You.

[Colin Cowherd]

Otherwise, you watch the game. Like last night. Baker watched a lot of the game. Right. Like, you just. You just get out of rhythm. So, you know, Kansas City has generally. And I don't have the stats in front of me, but you get Mahomes, a lot of. A lot of drives and a lot of opportunities, and he extends them. I don't like when I have a great quarterback. I think they have to go out now. They're getting some people back that will help them. But right now, they are not, in my opinion, right now, today, they're not a top 10 team. And Seattle makes too many mistakes.

[Nick Wright]

It.

[Colin Cowherd]

Last night was a mess. It was a mess.

[Nick Wright]

So Seattle's interesting because last night was ugly, but that defense was sincere.

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They.

[Nick Wright]

The Seattle offense kept saying to Houston, please make this a game. It's one in the morning on the East Coast. This is outrageously late game. At least make it interesting. And the Seattle defense wouldn't let Houston do it. And so I give you credit as the Sam Darnold guy for not, you know, overlooking a poor performance. But I think you actually, at this point, might be underrating Seattle because Mike McDonald has been awesome, and he gets extra credit to me because we've seen what's happened to Baltimore's defense since he left. So that's more confirmation of how good his scheme is. And I didn't see. Colin, you watch more college football than me, so I'll defer to you on this. I did not see this coming from Jackson, Smith and Jigba. This is a revelation. He might be the best receiver in football. It's unbelievable. And so I think Seattle is right now, because of the injuries, better than the Niners. I'm impressed by the Niners. I think Seattle's better.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, that's fair. So I was saying this about Caleb Williams body language matters. It's why I turned on Jay Cutler early in his career. I'm like, ugh, I don't like his body language. Kyler Murray, who I've defended forever, don't always love his body language. It's better this year. In fairness, Kyler's better this year. He's more engaged with the team, but it does matter. Chicago's run game is excellent. They spent a lot of money in the interior O line attacks. The defense has taken the ball away. Watching Ben Johnson's face and body language when Caleb throws it in completion is borderline discouragement, bordering on disgust. Like I, I, these guys, I watch Ben Johnson. You can't tell me he's happy with Caleb right now, right?

[Nick Wright]

Yeah, I think that's fair. And I don't listen, I think everybody has to. We all, what we owe the audience is no matter what we want to happen or what we said we thought would happen is evaluate things as they do happen. And I'm, you know, a big Caleb guy. I've cooled a bit, you know, over the last nine months. I no longer, you know, I did pick him to go to the super bowl as a rookie. So I guess I've cooled somewhat. And I'd love to sit here and say they're on a four game winning streak. They're four and two. They're in the thick of the playoff picture. And that's all true. But in some ways the last few games that's kind of been despite their quarterback play, their running games been great. Post by their run defense has been much better and Caleb is just kind of scuttling along now. The glass half full version of it is we have seen the wow moments and drives and even wow quarters and one wow game against Dallas that I guess everybody lights up. If Caleb can string together some more consistency, I do think the Bears could be a legitimate playoff team. But much like when another quarterback that I have historically loved, but he has really disappointed when the Jags were three and one or whatever record they had. If you watched the games, that was not because of Trevor, that was despite Trevor and now it's catching up to him a bit. It feels like something similar right now is happening with Caleb again. I think it's far too early to say this is who he's going to be all year, but I do think he's frustrated and I do think Ben Johnson's frustrated that it's not a little further along because that Saints defense, Colin everyone threw the ball well on them except for Caleb, it seems.

[Colin Cowherd]

So I've said if the average NFL quarterback career is 15 years and it's a 15 chapter book, I usually by the middle of the second chapter, I think I have a pretty good track record. I have a beat on a quarterback. I never quit on Darnold. Even when I was critical of Baker, I always said, oh, he's a franchise quarterback. I'm not sure I want him. He's too cocky. But he's a franchise quarterback. I feel very good through the years. I love Drake. May I said Jaden Daniel is going to look like Lamar Jackson. I think I like Caleb more than apparently many people did. But the point being is I feel pretty good about it. And then there's Dak Prescott and I'm like, okay, what chapter are we in? 11. And the entire time I've been glib and I've said he's Kirk Cousins with a star in his helmet. Kirk Cousins never carried this. And what's fascinating, you and I were both always sort of rolled our eyes at all the hype that George Pickens. Mike Tomlin, who has been more than willing to deal with dramas like get Pickens out of here.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Goes to Dak and like doesn't want to disappoint him and it's drama free. He may be the best number two receiver in the league. And I'm watching Dak here and I'm like, they didn't have CD Lamb. It's Brian Schottenheimer. It's, it's high maintenance. George Pickens, dez, Zeke, Amari, Tyron Smith, Zach, they all leave and Dak puts up huge numbers. I feel like it's the ultimate. Colin was wrong and you similar. Do you have any of that feeling watching this year?

[Nick Wright]

Yeah. Well, so listen, I think once they traded Micah, the Cowboys path was clearly they were going to try to be a better version of of last year's Bengals, which is throw, you know, trust our quarterback to go score 35 a game, see if the defense can hang on for dear life. Most people, myself included looked at that and said, well the problem is Dak isn't Burrow and George Pickens isn't T. Higgins. And through seven weeks, Dak is Burrow and George Pickens is better than T. Higgins. I didn't see any of that coming. And so I have been super skeptical of Pickens and that dates back to a college career where he was more than a handful, but he's been excellent. The Cowboys offense performing the way it did when CD was hurt was stunning and Dak just being one of the most entertaining high octane quarterbacks in the league has been a pleasure to watch this year. It also does feel to me that that and I don't know the butterfly effect, how things would have changed but watching this offense, Colin, doesn't it feel to you like man oh man, had they not traded Micah Parsons, we'd be talking about this team as a real, a real contender ish team. Like in an NFL where it seems like other than Kansas City nobody is and maybe Detroit, nobody is really good and that it's wide open for spots four through 10 in this league. If Dallas just had the 19th best defense, they would be right there. And instead it all goes on Dak's shoulder and he thus far he's playing the best ball of his life. I give him a ton of credit.

[Colin Cowherd]

I want to end with a basketball topic because the NBA season begins tonight. There's a new book out written by a young man who said he chronicles LeBron's LA Laker career and in it Westbrook, who runs hot, who's highly emotional. But whether you like Westbrook or not, he's about as real and authentic as anybody's going to get. He just, you know, he, he runs hot. I have defended LeBron through the years saying like Tiger or MJ or Ohtani, he's at brand protection legacy stage now. So sometimes he's a bit calculated, polished, you know, he's, he's protecting his empire. That's what CEOs do. And LeBron is the league CEO. But, but the knock there is, there is this rub is that, and I've heard this through the years that LeBron, who's LeBron, what is LeBron? You know, he and the late Kobe weren't close. He and LeBron, it's a weird thing, sure. I mean are the criticisms of LeBron that he's a bit too calculated, a bit too measured? Is it fair?

[Nick Wright]

I mean this is a lot to unpack here, so let me try to give it its just due. First of all, I have massive respect for Russell Westbrook's career. Russell Westbrook, the man and the player. I also think there is a lack of self awareness with Russ since he stopped being an MVP caliber player that has significantly damaged every single team he's been on. And it's. And for Russ, and certainly for Russ's fans, it's never Russ's fault. It's always, you know, people didn't let Russ be Russ when the reality is for the last six years, letting Russ be Russ means empty, calorie, non winning basketball. Like that's first ballot hall of Famer. He's one of the 50 greatest players ever. It's just been a rough last half decade. So there's that piece of it. Do I think that Probably Russ and LeBron's personalities are very different? Sure do. I also think that as we are now in year 23 of LeBron James being in the spotlight, that a guy who has the biggest scandal he was ever a part of was the decision, which then raised a couple million dollars for charity, that people have been trying to more than any athlete of my lifetime, find some cardinal sin or grievous error that he made to the point to where a couple weeks ago, when he was clearly going to do some type of ad with the decision to folks pretended that they thought he was going to announce his retirement at noon on a Tuesday and they acted all offended by it. That now what people have come down to is, you know what? I don't like the cut of his jib and I think he lies about reading books he hasn't read. That's my problem with LeBron. Like, give me a break. The guy has been the spokesman, the face, the ambassador of this league for a quarter century. Almost more than 20% of the time the NBA has existed. LeBron James has been at the epicenter of it and does not have a substantial misstep to his name and not a scandal on or off the court. So I, I understand he's an easy guy to go after in this regard. And yes, of course, he is calculated. And yes, of course anything he says or does is going to be dissected. So he has to be very careful with it. But I think that he has handled that spotlight better than quite literally any other athlete of our lives.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nick Wright. I agree. First things first, I'll leave you with this. This doesn't mean anything.

[Nick Wright]

Please.

[Colin Cowherd]

This doesn't mean anything. I just want to throw it out there because I'm very data driven. Bo Nix's college winning percentage was 70% and Patrick's was 44.

[Nick Wright]

Well, another way, you know what? That means a lot because that's another piece of data that shows Bo Nix is nothing like Patrick Mahomes. And I agree with that. Talk to you later, buddy.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right. The great Nick Wright. Appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's. Chris Rock had a line years ago, a man is as loyal as his options. And similar to that, you know, everybody's I can't believe you took the money from them and you did that. You don't have any options. People with options take advantage of options. The other thing is, whenever I hear, well, this guy is calculated. This guy is protecting his brand. Yeah, he's got one. That's what happens when you're worth a billion dollars. Tiger would have been better to protect his brand. Right. There's a lot of guys who have had a brand and butchered it. So listen, I do think There are times LeBron on the Internet and on the Instagram is pretty, it's pretty calculated. You know, I think that's fair to say. But he's, he's got a lot to protect. Here's another number I wish I had. Nick 4th quarter passer rating this year. Bo Nicks 101 Mahomes immediately 98. The data is coming out. It's pretty clear. Pretty, pretty clear. Greg Olson's around the corner as well in Chicago. It's the Herd.

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[Colin Cowherd]

J Mac Are you a coffee drinker?

[J Mac]

It's funny you asked that for the first time in months. I had Starbucks yesterday. It was delicious. I just don't get a healthy drink there, so I know that I can't have it regularly, but I'll have a small coffee here at work. But it's tiny. Why are you.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm on my fourth cup. But there's never been, there has never been an instance where somebody was on their deathbed and said, I just drank too much coffee. That's never happened in the history of the world.

[J Mac]

Less about that. I'm worried about the. Right now, I don't care about my deathbed. Are you handling four cups okay? I mean, some of these takes are a little unhinged right now. Maybe that explains the four cups of coffee.

[Colin Cowherd]

Jpack with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.

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[Colin Cowherd]

That's what I got to do. I got to blame the caffeine. That's a good one. Pete's coffee is blamed for all these takes.

[Dave Roberts]

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[J Mac]

All right, let's start with your Chicago Bears. Four straight wins. Pretty impressive run. They got the Ravens this week. We'll see what happens with Lamar. I mean, I'd like to see a Lamar Caleb Williams showdown. Caleb Williams has not been particularly crisp during this four game stretch, but he knows there's still a lot to work on.

[Jackson Dart (Player)]

There are things that I can be better at. There are things that I'm going to be better at. There are things that, you know, that, that, you know, weren't hitting today and, and, you know, you just have those days sometime. And it's nice that we have a defense, we have a special teams, a punter or whatever you want to say, kicker that can put us ahead, that can help us win games, a run game that can, you know, control the game. And so, you know, we get this figured out. On my side, we'll be, you know, we'll be putting up a lot of points to be very dangerous.

[Colin Cowherd]

He's good at the podium. He says the right thing. He doesn't get defensive, he doesn't get prickly. He's very good at the podium.

[J Mac]

Easy to say the right thing when you want four straight. I mean, shucks, with our ratings cooking, it's easy for me to come up here and just be like, hey, it's me. You go four and one back to back weeks, you just roll up, giving out picks left and right.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't think it's that easy. I think being good at the podium is a skill. I think he's really good at it.

[J Mac]

So here's my thing and I, I wish I had gone in deeper on this, but I hadn't looked at the schedule and said, you know, the Bears could Get hot. I don't know if you remember that. Oh, you say a lot of their.

[Colin Cowherd]

Schedule is there for W's.

[J Mac]

Well, I'm just saying if Lamar don't play this weekend, I think they can win that one. And then it's Joe Flacco, Jackson Dart and J.J. mcCarthy. And I don't think Pittsburgh's very good. All of a sudden, Bears become a spicy wild card team. Colin, like they're on the cusp. I still need to see more because I don't want to poo poo the four game winning streak. But at home against Dallas, I will say this.

[Nick Wright]

Come on.

[Colin Cowherd]

The teams that are running the football consistently, Detroit, Seattle, Chicago. It's, it's, it's a. Here comes the crappy weather, here comes the bad weather. Yeah, the Colts. You start looking at all the team. You know, we've always been a passing league. Now it gets cold. Now you have to have a run game. And by the way, Cleveland beat Miami this weekend. Oh, Cleveland's rookie running back from Ohio State looked pretty dominant.

[J Mac]

Did you notice the Chargers have struggled? Omarion Hampton down. I know Vidal had a good game, but it's like, come on, Vidal, you can't count on him. No, it's run to set up the pass first. Now the league is shifting.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[J Mac]

Because of the two high safeties. They're just not giving up big plays. Did you see Houston last night? How many times were they just shucking it 20 yards down the field with like zero success? I mean, BAKER Mayfield threw 50 passes last night. Yeah, Colin, they had one touchdown. On offense, like you got to be able to run the football. No, Bucky Irving last night, Tampa could, could do nothing on the ground, so I, I would focus on that. And this swift. And I'm not, I don't know, how do you pronounce the, the new running back's name? Monogamy? I don't even know what it is. I've got him on my fantasy team. He's got some pop. If you can now get those two cooking in Chicago. This Baltimore game gets spicy, especially if Lamar does not play. All right, Colin, let's move on to the New York Giants.

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[J Mac]

How about that? Collapse up 190 and blow it. Conceding 33 in the fourth. Brian Dable, who appeared very rattled by the loss, says he's not planning any staff or play calling changes ahead of the matchup with Philly.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I'm not considering that. But we all, we all got to do a better job. Starts with me. And there's plenty of opportunities to finish that game the way we wanted to and we didn't get the job done. Yeah, I, I think the best thing that's happened to Brian Daboll is the emergence of Dart because I think it would be really hard right now to separate those two. And I look at Jackson Dart and I said this before the season. I said this about the Colts and I said it about the Giants. I like the rosters Colts more than the Giants. They needed a quarterback. And the Colts are not a mirage. I mean, they go look at the Colts offense, O line, tight end, wide receiver, running back. It stars. And you look at the New York Giants without neighbors. Scatter Boo Dart, left tackle. We know their defensive front's excellent. I don't think, I don't think the win over. I don't think the near win over Denver or the win over Philly is a mirage. I said it. Going into the season, I like their roster. As long as their left tackle who's hit and miss on health is healthy, I like the Giants.

[J Mac]

So this is. Let me drill down on this because you've been saying for a few days now you think the Giants have found their guy.

[Colin Cowherd]

Absolutely.

[J Mac]

Jackson.

[Colin Cowherd]

Darren Jackson's there.

[J Mac]

I'm just going to play. Is he a franchise quarterback or no. And we'll go, Jackson, Dart, you say yes?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[J Mac]

Okay. Kyler Murray.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, he's been a franchise quarterback. I think he is. But I, I think after all these years, I think there's a clear ceiling. I think size is crucial at the position and I would probably start over in Arizona.

[J Mac]

You would start. So he's not a franchise quarterback?

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, no, he's a franchise quarterback. But every. I mean, when you get away from the top five quarterbacks in the league, people run their course in franchises. So Caleb Williams, I think he's a franchise quarterback.

[J Mac]

Bo Nix.

[Colin Cowherd]

Absolutely. A franchise quarterback.

[J Mac]

Okay, interesting. So you like the younger guys more. You know, we've seen Kyler for what, five, six years now, and it's not really happening. One more young guy, J.J. mcCarthy.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I've never thought he was a franchise. I've never, ever bought into that. No, I said this before the draft. I didn't think he, I. My take was he didn't have the traits I was looking for when I, and I, and I never been a fan of this. He's a winner.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Danny Werfel was a winner in college. Tebow was a winner in college. That doesn't mean anything. Why he's a winner. Well, if you Play under Harbaugh, you're a winner. Always. Andrew Luck was a winner, but he had the traits.

[J Mac]

Yeah. How's this? If Dart can beat the Eagles again and sweep them, I'll give it to you. He's a franchise quarterback. I, I see there's no way he's winning this, but he has made me look foolish. Chargers, Broncos. So I don't know if I'm going to go against him again. Final story, Colin. This is just breaking here in the last hour. There are reports now, I'll just leave it at. On social media, that the Cowboys are making a move on Max Crosby of the Raiders. Now, Crosby was injured against the Chiefs. They held him out of the second half. It wouldn't have mattered. The Cowboys obviously traded Micah Parsons at, you know, right before the season started and now just, it's just a report. I'm not going to.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why would the Raiders give up their best player and the soul of the franchise?

[J Mac]

Well, I don't know. Maybe because Jerry Jones does stupid deals all the time. He lost this deal. The Micah Parson trade, he did. That wide receiver from Carolina was horrible. Trey Lance deal was horrible. I mean, if you could get Jerry to give you a first round pick for Crosby, I think you got to take that and run, don't you?

[Colin Cowherd]

I, I don't like giving up. I didn't feel Micah was the soul of the Cowboys. I thought it was Dak and so I don't like giving up the soul of a franchise. And I, I, I don't. Max Crosby is the Raiders. Michael was not the Cowboys. Dax, the Cowboys. Jerry's the Cowboys. I, yeah, I just don't get that. I don't get it for either team. I don't get it for you. If you're going to sign Max, sign.

[J Mac]

What was the point of it doesn't really make sense. That being said, if the Raiders are able to get a first for Crosby, I mean, that's elder abuse. They're just taking advantage of Jerry Jones because there's no way. I know. Crosby's awesome. You cannot give up a first for Crosby after trading away Micah. I mean, Micah Parsons is, he's rated as the number one edge rusher in the league.

[Colin Cowherd]

First of all, he just had three sacks.

[Nick Wright]

He's unstoppable.

[Colin Cowherd]

Dallas is a great story. They're not a Super bowl team.

[J Mac]

Right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Anybody making a big swing, that's not a Super bowl team. At the trade deadline, you should be selling, you know, get another pick. Get a, you know, I just, that, that would be weird.

[J Mac]

Okay, what if the night. I'm sorry. What if the Niners made a move for Crossing?

[Colin Cowherd]

That's different.

[J Mac]

Yes, okay, we're on the same page. Yeah, I agree.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's different. J Mac with the News well, that's the news.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[J Mac]

Last night the Blue Jays clinched their first pennant in 32 years after an injured, incredible Game 7 of the ALCS. Now they'll host a Dodgers team looking for back to back World Series titles. Coverage of Game 1 of the 2025 World Series begins Friday at 7pm Eastern, 4pm Pacific on Fox.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think if you win as much as The Dodgers have 13 straight playoff appearances and you can win back to back, that's a dynasty. There was always this sense you had to win three straight. That feels very NBA because it was always a star driven league. Now nobody can win back to back in the NBA because of Adam Silver's new CBA and the aprons and the cost of ownership. So I mean, I think if you're great for 13 years and you win back to back championships again. When I was a kid, Cincinnati Reds won back to back. I think it was like 74, 75 or I think it was those years and they had a lot of success but that was considered a dynasty. The Big Red machine, it's still revered in baseball history. So I think the Dodgers are going for history. It's interesting though, a month ago September 21st, the Chiefs were 0 and 2. The offense looked old, creaky, pedestrian and kind of lost. And a month ago the Dodgers were getting ready for the playoffs. The bullpen was a mess. The starting pitchers like Snell and Glass now, you know, had missed so much of the regular Season and a month later, they're like that rider at the Tour de France who separates on the mountain stage. When he reappears, he's leading, heading downhill and pulling away. It feels like the Chiefs and the Dodgers are playing different sports. And I think one of the things they both do really well. It's hard to be good. It's harder to be great. It's hardest to keep being great. And there are some things you can't do. You can't be stubborn. You can't be overly prideful. You got to spot your problems, address them immediately. I have watched in my life so many businesses and sports teams get in their own way. Dodgers never do. They never do. Chiefs never do. Everybody makes mistakes. Outside of anonymous trolls, nobody is perfect. Right? Good G. Andrew Friedman's had draft picks that don't work. He's made deals that don't work. I could name them. Nobody's perfect but the Dodgers, they move off their mistakes, they identify, they solve, and that's what Kansas City's done. And listen, it's not easy managing the Dodgers. You got the analytics guys upstairs. The expectations are ridiculous. You do have the best batting order since the 75 Reds. And Dave Roberts talked about being second guessed.

[Dave Roberts]

There's always critics. Yeah, I think that we're in a big market. We're expected to win. Our fans expect us to win. I can't speak to what revenue we're bringing in, but our ownership puts it back into players, a big chunk of it. That's what you want. I mean, I would think that that's what sports fans want from, from everyone to get the best of their, you know, their team. And I think we do as good a job as anyone.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think Dave Roberts really plays the long game again. I grew up with Earl Weaver and Billy Martin and Whitey Herzog and very feisty Bobby Cox, obviously with the Braves, kind of a domineering guy. Like, it's. It's kind of stubborn. Dave Roberts, you can't be that as a major league manager. You don't have the power you used to. The analytics department has the power. And Dave Roberts, Aaron Boone, the difference with the Yankees and the Dodgers. The Yankees have all this money. They never solve their issues. They just return the same GM and the same team and the same problems. Home run dependent, can't play small ball, don't really engineer runs, strike out too much and not great defensively. The Dodgers find problems, identify him. There's no ego, and they move off them. And I. It's just easy to say well, what about the talent? Look at Philadelphia right now. The Eagles are a stacked roster. They have, what is their offensive identity? They have none. It's hard, you know, Shaq and Kobe when you've got the two best finishers in their prime in the game. It is hard. I mean, the Miami Heat looked like a dynasty. We're a dynasty. Then got old really fast and it all blew up. So I don't know, I just, I, I would never go to a restaurant where I thought the quality dipped. I, I like following and watching well run businesses. I support them. Like I, I, when I go into places, I look around. Is it well run? Is it quick? Is it efficient? Is it. I want to cater to those businesses and I watch the Dodgers and I'm always impressed. I think they're the best run sports franchise in North America. And it's not just the money because the Yankees have it and they don't spend it smartly. And Kansas City, to their credit, a month ago we're looking at that offense and we're like, it was a mess and all of a sudden now it's as deep a receiving core as Andy Reid's ever had. I mean they just, they just make stuff work. They get to work, they solve their stuff and it, and I also think it's really hard to be great because the expectation, everybody's on their phone, including the athletes. The athletes are on their phone, they're reading things. The Chiefs dynasty and the Dodgers dynasty under Andy Reid. 72%. I mean that, that is insane to win 72% of your games. I mean, go look at Bill Parcell's winning percentage and he's as good, as good a coach as we've ever had. Solve the bullpen, solve the receiving core. Don't let pride and ego get in the way. Identify it, solve it. Be nimble. All right, Hour three. Greg Olson. The great Greg Olson is around the corner. Nick Wright, hurt Hierarchy. People talk a lot about athletes performance, but what about your own? QuestHealth.com can help you understand where your health stands. With Quest, you can buy your own lab tests online, no doctor visit required. Quest has a huge selection of lab tests for everything from fitness to heart health and more. Just buy a test online and visit a nearby Quest location for sample collection. You'll get fast results online and for a limited time, you can save on select lab [e-mail] use the code HERD10 at checkout.

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